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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Let's go, let's go,

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Speaker 1: Let's go Giants. Get out of my giants, give me

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Speaker 1: some job. Part of the Giants podcast network. Let's roll

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Speaker 1: now we welcome in one of the newest members of

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Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants, safety Javon hal and Javan

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Speaker 1: Welcome on board, man, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: So I did some into gathering on you. I watched

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Speaker 1: your podcast, the Breaking House Rules podcast. Right, so I

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Speaker 1: found out that your girlfriend who's here, Yes, she is

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Speaker 1: a native New Yorker. She is a native New york

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Speaker 1: She warned you about New York City.

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Speaker 2: Uh, food is great, the people are passionate, the people

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Speaker 2: are passionate, and it gets cold outside. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm from Canada and I went to college in Oregon,

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Speaker 2: so I'm ready for that.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say the col Chin affect you. You're

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Speaker 1: the snowman. Yeah, I mean, come on, come on, so

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Speaker 1: tell the fans while you're the snowman.

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Speaker 2: So I'm a snowman because obviously I was born in Vancouver,

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Speaker 2: British Columbia. And then I went number eight and a

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Speaker 2: couple of my old teammates started calling me a snowman

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Speaker 2: just because the number looks like, you know, the snowman

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Speaker 2: emoji on the iPhone. Uh, and it just kind of

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Speaker 2: shout out to giz know he's a snowman. But in

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Speaker 1: So now, also on the podcast, your girlfriend's dad is

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Speaker 1: a huge New York sports fan. Correct, Yeah, so we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to convert you to like a Knicks

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Speaker 1: fan now that you're here. Are you gonna convert to

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Speaker 1: all these New York teams? What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: She's a big Knicks fan, so I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: She's taking apart man.

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Speaker 2: I will be honest. When I was younger, I had

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Speaker 2: I had a Knicks hat, and you can ask my parents.

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Speaker 2: I had a Knicks hat because Carmelo Anthony, I love Carmelo,

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Speaker 2: and then Jeremy Lynn with Lynn sanity, So I got

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Speaker 2: some Knicks. You know what I'm saying. History in me already,

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Speaker 2: but I'll support I'll support the squad all right.

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Speaker 1: So I could tell from listening to the other pod

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Speaker 1: like half the giants roster. I was very impressed. So

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Speaker 1: when you look at this young secondary that you're joining,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you used to being the young guy in

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Speaker 1: the secondary, right you come here, you and the young

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Speaker 1: So what is about this group and how can you

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Speaker 2: I mean just being young, you know, they're fresh into

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Speaker 2: think it's going to be great. I think I've been

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Speaker 2: while also you know, helping helping them find who they

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Speaker 2: you know, adding me is like a guiding light for

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Speaker 2: for for the young guys in the room. And I'm

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Speaker 1: slash Giants. Now, your last three years are three different

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinators?

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, four years, four differense coordinators. Even though Josh

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Speaker 2: Boyer was back after my first year, the defense was different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I consider it. I consider it four defense

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Speaker 1: So it's just just easy. I'm in to learn a

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Speaker 2: Coach Bohene was with Coach Rabel in the past and

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Speaker 2: are you know, different things that point out to me

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Speaker 1: It label somebody of safety. But you have to be

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Speaker 1: So you have a lot of different spots you have

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Speaker 2: I think I play my best ball when I'm when

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Speaker 2: I'm behind, When I'm back deep and I'm able to

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Speaker 2: make tackles, the whole nine. But I think I'm best

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Speaker 2: when I'm back deep, seeing the field, communicating.

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Speaker 1: they really want to get the hands on the football right.

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Speaker 2: Right right, No, I definitely think that being back deep,

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Speaker 2: I think that's definitely where I will thrive at in

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Speaker 2: I'm really I'm really looking forward to to working with

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Speaker 1: Can you be a little bit more aggressive as a

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hastually beat kvon on a second. But

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Speaker 1: who is in your draft class and in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: you guys are both old school. It doesn't exist anymore.

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Speaker 1: But right PAC twelve guys, Right, do you have a

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Speaker 1: think both of you consider yourselves as sending players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, me and Paulsam have you know, mutual respect from

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Speaker 2: just from Afar, I've always respected his game and I'm

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight the last two years, right, so I'm.

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Speaker 2: Really excited to see him flourish and it's going to

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Speaker 2: to know how to manage two minutes of crunch time football,

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Speaker 1: Hey, I can also talk long care. I'd like to

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Speaker 2: Yes, I knew I.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the old pro conversation every year now.

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Speaker 2: So my thing is is when I view my game,

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Speaker 2: And it may seem broad to say that, but that's

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Speaker 2: I once I'm in a system and you know, I

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Speaker 1: Based on what you said on your pot it sounded

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Speaker 1: How did you kind of wind up with the giants

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Speaker 2: And the Giants really really were excited to have me,

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Speaker 2: and they made that clear to my agents, and so

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Speaker 2: I'm needed somewhere and I'm excited to be here.

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Speaker 1: How quickly did you get in the film with Kaevon

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Speaker 2: Dude, He's been calling and texting me for I don't

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Speaker 2: everything was settled, I I had sent on a message

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Speaker 2: right after, and he was super juice. He's in he's

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Speaker 2: them a message. He's still loved and he was really juice.

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Speaker 1: Finally, since I know your family, I'm sure you've done

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Speaker 1: a lot of the New York stuff already, but is

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Speaker 1: there something when you get here you really want to

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Speaker 1: sink your teeth into New York wise.

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Speaker 2: I mean just being into the New York culture, like

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Speaker 2: understanding the city and how it works in New Jersey

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Speaker 2: and New Jersey golf like all of that.

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Speaker 1: So ok, you a big golfer. I'm a big golf

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of courses in Jersey. You heard it.

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Speaker 1: There is no shortage. Congratulations man, Welcome boys. Javon Holland,

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Speaker 1: one of the newest members of the New York Football Giants,