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Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get right to this last night's conclusion

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Speaker 2: to a major story that gripped the Northeast for most

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Speaker 2: of the week. You know about the Brown University shooting,

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Speaker 2: and that was two students getting killed and another nine

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Speaker 2: were shot as well. And then shortly a couple of

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Speaker 2: days later, on Monday, a professor at MIT, Nuno Lorero,

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Speaker 2: a physicist and fusion scientist, He was shot near his

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Speaker 2: quickly the authorities thought that these two crimes might be connected.

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Speaker 2: And last night Claudio Nevez Valente shot himself to death

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Speaker 2: in a storage unit in New Hampshire. And he was responsible,

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Speaker 2: according to the cops, for both shootings, the one at

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Speaker 2: Brown and of the MIT professor uh and and had

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Speaker 2: connections both to the university and to the professor. Let's

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Speaker 2: get Brad Garrett on ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst.

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Speaker 1: Brad, how are you, I'm good?

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Speaker 3: Thanks?

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Speaker 2: How did authorities connect the two? What were the what

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Speaker 2: was the clues the evidence that allowed them to eventually

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Speaker 2: track him down to the storage unit and connect them

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Speaker 3: All right, it's actually unclear at this point what connects

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Speaker 3: the two crimes other than I mean, I haven't heard anything.

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Speaker 3: For example, does do the ballistics like the showcase scenes

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Speaker 3: they match the showcase scenes from Brown? That's the logical

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Speaker 3: guests on my part. I still don't know. But there

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Speaker 3: They're both Portuguese, and from ninety five to two thousand

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Speaker 3: they were actually in college together in Portugal. So now,

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Speaker 3: why twenty five years later you shoot somebody you were

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Speaker 3: in school with. Obviously we don't know the answer to

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Speaker 3: that yet. So that's one aspect. But it's an interesting story, John,

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Speaker 3: dressed approporately, it's cold, and he instinctively just followed him

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Speaker 3: Now why he did this, I don't know. He originally

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Speaker 2: So so the the person that they stepped the apparently

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Speaker 3: And if there's something to that. Yeah, there's something to that,

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Speaker 2: I saw this story and it's out of the post,

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Speaker 2: so you never know the New York Post. But there

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Speaker 2: Leads me, whether it's one or two or three, why

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Speaker 2: So what why why is security so shody at a

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. They have I will tell you

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Speaker 3: If you don't have them in the classroom, do you

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Speaker 2: I just if all these random people were so unnerved

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Speaker 3: But I mean, you have to be reasonable here, John,

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Speaker 3: But I don't think it's reasonable. Is there some fault

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Speaker 2: The the thing you mentioned at the beginning. He's forty

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Speaker 2: eight years old, former Brown graduate student, and then you

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Speaker 3: In one of the big and it was a big

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty convinced that he went back to that story.

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Speaker 1: All right, Brad, thanks for coming on again, busy week.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome anytime.

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Speaker 2: All right, Brad Garren, ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst

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Speaker 2: on the on the suspect finally, well, I mean he's dead.

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Speaker 2: He shot himself, the one who killed the MIT professor

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Speaker 2: injured nine others. His named Claudio Nevez Valente. We've got more.

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Speaker 2: We'll down follow the story of the homeless guy who

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Speaker 2: apparently was living in the basement. That's another thing that

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Speaker 2: hit me about possible security issues at Brown. How do

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Speaker 2: and a shortage of cameras at that building. There was

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Speaker 2: Here is more on the Brown University shooter. First thing,

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Speaker 2: barking noises just before he opened fire. Guy's name is

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Speaker 2: a mass shooter and serial killer. He was barking when

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Speaker 2: a parent of the Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Naranja,

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Speaker 2: The guy was living in the basement of the physics

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Speaker 1: He went on Reddit.

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Speaker 2: The police had produced a photograph which showed John standing

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Speaker 1: Is this you? Do you know anything? Do you remember anything?

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Speaker 1: So he went on Reddit and he said that.

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Speaker 2: He started following the guy. He wrote, I'm being dead serious.

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Speaker 2: The police need to look into a grain Nissan with

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Speaker 2: possible homeless guy talking about the encounter with the killer. Now,

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Speaker 2: when he the killer Claudia backed away, he relocked the car.

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Speaker 2: You think maybe he'll burn down the house, maybe he'll

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Speaker 2: that need this obviously. Again, look in the.

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Speaker 1: Streets in La County. We got seventy thousand people out there.

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Speaker 1: More coming up.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am

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Speaker 4: six forty.

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Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show after two o'clock. We told you yesterday

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Speaker 2: the Senate in his reservoir was the empty reservoir and

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Speaker 2: the palisades. They drained one hundred and seventeen million gallons

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Speaker 2: out of it before the fire, so there was no

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Speaker 2: water to put the fire out. They did it because

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Speaker 2: the cover was torn. They're doing it again. They're draining

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Speaker 2: the reservoir again because the cover is damaged again, and

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Speaker 2: it's going to be shut down for at least nine months.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to say Ed Kazshawani. He is

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Speaker 2: an attorney lives in the Palisades, lost his home and

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Speaker 2: has been upfront, going to meetings and fighting this the

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Speaker 2: the the idiots who run this city in County. To

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Speaker 2: give you an idea of this story, we're going to

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Speaker 2: play you this report from ABC seven reporter Carlos Granda

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Speaker 2: Lake cut number three because the local residents are really upset.

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Speaker 5: It was the center of controversy almost a year ago.

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Speaker 5: The Sanity Andez Reservoir in Pacific Palisades was offline when

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Speaker 5: the fire started. It is a critical reservoir for fire

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Speaker 5: fighting efforts, and.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what's going to happen in the next month,

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Speaker 2: next week as far as the weather.

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Speaker 6: Frustration level, like my constituents in the Palisades is absolutely

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Speaker 6: through the roof over this.

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Speaker 5: The reservoir has a capacity of one hundred and seventeen

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Speaker 5: million gallons of water, but it was closed for repairs

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Speaker 5: during the Palisades fire. A report, however, found that even

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Speaker 5: if the reservoir was full at the time of the fires,

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Speaker 5: the system would have been quickly overwhelmed. Water is now

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Speaker 5: back in the reservoir, but officials say they found tears

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Speaker 5: in the cover that need to be fixed. This notice

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Speaker 5: of The project filed by the LEDWP says the reservoir

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Speaker 5: has to be drained and taken out of service to

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Speaker 5: replace the damage floating cus.

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Speaker 6: These permeable covers do not seem to be able to

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Speaker 6: hold up to wear and tearror, and so the long

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Speaker 6: term solution here is going to be to put a concrete.

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Speaker 1: Cover on it. Park says that, however, is years away

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Speaker 1: for now.

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Speaker 5: The DWP's application says there would be an alternative water

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Speaker 5: supply to the Palisades in place before the reservoir is

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Speaker 5: taken off line. That would be a six mile high

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Speaker 5: pressure hose from a tank into Panga. Some residents, however,

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Speaker 5: we spoke with, say it's all a bit disturbing.

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Speaker 3: And now the delay is just kind of really sad

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Speaker 3: and set of circumstances.

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Speaker 1: It's almost fire season.

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Speaker 2: We don't know Santa and I is going to kick

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Speaker 2: in in the coming months.

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Speaker 6: We need something, we need, we need what.

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Speaker 5: The DWP senters a statement which says in part that

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Speaker 5: it is working closely with city planners, including the Los

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Speaker 5: Angeles Fire Department, to ensure redundant water supplies are available

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Speaker 5: throughout their replacement project, proactively replacing the covers an important

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Speaker 5: entrant step to avoid unexpected tears to the repaired cover

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Speaker 5: that could force their reservoir out of service.

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Speaker 1: For now, the reservoir is online.

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Speaker 5: The DWP estimates the repair could take nine months.

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Speaker 2: It's Carlos Gronda from ABC News again. Jenny's Connuniya has

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Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars salary, runs the DWP.

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Speaker 2: This comes out of her empty brain. We're going to

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Speaker 2: have Sayai Kashani on the attorney right after Brigida's news.

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Speaker 2: He had the same questions that I had in my head.

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Speaker 2: They're installing a backup water supply it if it didn't

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Speaker 2: make a difference in fighting the fire having the reservoir drained,

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Speaker 2: why are they coming up with a backup And they

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Speaker 2: claim they need this to protect the drinking water. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't built for drinking water. It was built for firefighting.

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Speaker 2: And obviously the Palisades went without the drinking water reservoir

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Speaker 2: supply for all twenty twenty four before the fire hit

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Speaker 2: because that thing was drained in early twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: None of this makes sense. Everything they say seems to

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Speaker 2: be a lie on top of a lie on top

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Speaker 2: of a lie on top of a bed of absolute idiocy.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk with Saya Kashani next. Hey, you've been listening

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Speaker 2: to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear

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Speaker 2: the show live on KFI AM six forty from one

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Speaker 2: to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course,

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Speaker 2: anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app