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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Happy New Year's Happy Hour listeners. I'm backa

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Speaker 1: Kuprin and I am Michelle Young oh Man, and we

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Speaker 1: are thrilled to be back with you again, not only

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Speaker 1: for this week but this new year. It's obviously our

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Speaker 1: first episode of Bachelor Happy Hour in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: so it's good to see you again, Michelle. It's been

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I've missed you. Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: It feels like forever and it's twenty twenty three. Anytime

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Speaker 1: in the year change is over. Do you ever make

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Speaker 1: the mistake of constantly writing twenty twenty two on whatever

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Speaker 1: documents you're writing one, yes, yes, Yesterday I was typing

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Speaker 1: up like all of my you know, reports for just

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Speaker 1: They're like, um, you're living two years ago, babe. It

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Speaker 1: really is crazy, and it does fly so fast, and

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Speaker 1: just even like take that time reflecting on the new

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Speaker 1: year and today as we're gonna bring in the new

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Speaker 1: year with our first episode in twenty twenty three. We

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Speaker 1: are going to be having the one and only Jesse

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Speaker 1: Palmer joining us today. But before that, we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: a little catching up because we have not been in

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Speaker 1: a while. So back there, anything, what is new? What

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Speaker 1: is what is going on for your twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: feel listen? Oh man, you know they always say new year,

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Speaker 1: knew me. I'm saying new year, say me because not

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Speaker 1: much has changed. We are still under renovations with our house.

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Speaker 1: I was like, it's gonna be done by the new Year.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited, and that is not the case. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean everything like the holidays the New Year were

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Speaker 1: it was all very chill for us this year, which

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Speaker 1: I love. It was very relaxing. We just spent time

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Speaker 1: with Thomas's family and so yeah, no complaints about like

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Speaker 1: nothing exciting. Like you to share because you're currently in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: You've been there for a few days. Tell me all

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Speaker 1: about that trip. Oh my goodness, I've been in Mexico

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Speaker 1: for the last four days and I don't know about

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Speaker 1: you back, like, well, you and I briefly kind of

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Speaker 1: spoke about this. It's just like the holidays and especially

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Speaker 1: like New Year's either there's so much pressure to do

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Speaker 1: and it's like there's like this almost like this energy

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Speaker 1: going to have a good year. It's like superstitious, but

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Speaker 1: so nice to hear that you had a relaxing Year's Eve.

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Speaker 1: I was in Mexico. I was with the girls. Rachel

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Speaker 1: so we just went downtown and we celebrated. It was

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Speaker 1: all of the single girls together, no men, no drama

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Speaker 1: around men. It was just truly truly refreshing and has

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Speaker 1: it's a good start. It was a stressful year. It

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Speaker 1: was a stressful year. Yeah, yeah, you needed to get

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Speaker 1: at El Squidrow. I was like I spent many a

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, the mems the memory, laughing

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Speaker 1: on New Year's like what is what's the what is

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Speaker 1: it was it was fun like it was. It was fun.

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Speaker 1: We let loose. We had so much fun. We ended

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Speaker 1: up the hotel set us up with like a limo.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time. Oh no, I don't

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Speaker 1: I was a limo, wasn't it If it was a

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Speaker 1: and it was exactly one year ago today that we

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Speaker 1: Let's get him on here. Welcome back to Happy Hour, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: I was just telling Michelle, it was exactly one year

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Speaker 1: Hour podcast, and this was kicking off your first year

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Speaker 1: as host. So much has happened. I know, time flies.

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Speaker 1: First off, it's great seeing you both again, and happy

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Speaker 1: New Year to everybody. Yeah, it's amazing. I guess for

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Speaker 1: up at the end of the month, isn't it You

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Speaker 1: just said you kicked off last year with Clayton season.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't that feel like lifetimes ago? Five years ago? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a big undertaking. How do your other hosting jobs

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Speaker 1: put things, you know, and so you know, I think

427
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 1: I think what I learned is Clayton was a very

428
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: different Bachelor than Zach and so both need need different things.

429
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 1: One thing I've always really tried to be careful of.

430
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: I still tried to make this a priority. I just

431
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: don't want to interject myself and make it about me.

432
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: Here's what I think, here's what I think, here's what

433
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 1: I think. Totally. I'm always going to be so happy

434
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: to give my advice, my help. I'm not saying it's

435
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: going to be the right answer, if it's if it's

436
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: asked for, right, or if I feel like it's warranted

437
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: and needed. And like there was a moment on Rachel's

438
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 1: season where she was really down when we were in Bruges,

439
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 1: and I went and spoke to her sort of privately

440
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: in her on the boat and just because she needed

441
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: I felt like she needed someone to talk to. And

442
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: so with Zach, you know, I feel like you're always

443
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: wearing different hats with each lead. Zach was someone I

444
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: learned pretty quickly that he needs he needs support, and

445
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: he's someone who has amazing intentions. The last thing Zach

446
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: ever wants to do has hurt anybody's feelings, and I

447
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: know we say that about a lot of people. Zach

448
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: takes goodbyes very hard, very tough. And there were there

449
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: were some moments, I think during this season where he

450
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: had eliminated somehere sends someone home and he got really

451
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: emotional and the way of the moment really hit him.

452
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,239
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of times where I think

453
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: in the past, it's like all right, rose ceremony, everybody's done,

454
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: off we go and we'll, you know, get ready for

455
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: the next day. He really had to sort of wait

456
00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 1: around and be there for him sometimes on camera, but

457
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: other times just to stick around and be there from

458
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: to talk to him off camera and be like, hey, man,

459
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: are you doing okay, yeah, you know, let's talk about

460
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it so you know, it's um you know,

461
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 1: I think doing doing this job, there's a lot of

462
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: different things you have to do, but I think so

463
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 1: much of it depends on who the person is and

464
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: what it is they need or what it is they want.

465
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: But one thing I know is I don't ever want

466
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 1: to push push myself on them if they said they

467
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: don't need it or want it. Right. It's also so

468
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: hard to just even navigate that as a lead, especially nowadays,

469
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: because being the lead looks tremendously different than being a lead. However,

470
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: go give social media now and just like the whole

471
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: following aspect of it, of like the phase after you

472
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: get done feeling filming, you know that there's this massive

473
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: phase of watching it back. The world's watching it back

474
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: to you as well, but everybody's commenting on it. And

475
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: that's a huge part that a lot of times gets

476
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: in the head of different leads while they're filming of Okay, well,

477
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: I know that like this person got a ton of

478
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: hate for doing this even when we were all contestants,

479
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: and so I'm going to try to navigate that differently,

480
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: and it, like a lot of times ends up with

481
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: the lead not acting themselves because you're just scared that

482
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna get canceled. You're scared that people are going

483
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: to take it a different way. You like overthink how

484
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: to act at times. I feel like, do you feel

485
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: like Zach was able to navigate that or how he

486
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: was able to navigate that. Was he able to put

487
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: the pressure of social media and what others might be

488
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: receiving it as and just be himself while he was there. Yeah,

489
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: that's such a good point, Schell. I mean, I think

490
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: it's so much harder now not to worry about what

491
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: people are going to think about what you said or

492
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,959
Speaker 1: what you did that. I think one of the biggest

493
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: compliments I can give Zach is that he is himself

494
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: unapologetically through and through. I really feel like Zach. People say, well,

495
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,239
Speaker 1: he's only twenty five years old, how can he know?

496
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: Zach knows who he is, Zach knows what he's about

497
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: and what he stands for. And I'll say, throughout this

498
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: season he is very consistent Um, I don't to be

499
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: fully honest with you too, I don't know if Zach's

500
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: ready for what's coming up, But are any of us

501
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: really ready? Right? Yeah? You can't really. I can be

502
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: ready as ready as possible, But because you don't know

503
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: how people are going to respond, you have to take

504
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: it as they're responding. So it's so true, you know,

505
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: it's we always talk about how you know, nothing can

506
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: prepare you for being the bachelor, Nothing can prepare you

507
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: for being the bachelorette. You know, you just got to

508
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: go out and do it. Nothing can prepare you for

509
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: being the bachelor bachelorette once it airs right and having

510
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: to deal with everything socially. I mean, that's that's That's

511
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: almost an entire separate conversation. I think, Um, I know

512
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: Zach has an amazing family. I know he has an

513
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: amazing support system. I don't know how he's going to

514
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: take it. You know, one thing we all know is

515
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: that you're never going to make all abas your nation happy, right,

516
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: Like it's just literally impossible. But you know, I think

517
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: what Zach why he can lay his head down to

518
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 1: bed every night and have peace of mind is because

519
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: he knows who he is, and he wasn't being somebody fake.

520
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, you might like him, you might not like him,

521
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: you might like a decision or dislike one, but he

522
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: was being authentic to himself. And at the end of

523
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: the day, I think that's all Zach can do, and

524
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 1: I think that that's what he did. I'm glad that

525
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: you said he was consistent through and through because I

526
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: feel like one of my issues and this is just

527
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: me personally, and maybe you can attest to a tour agree.

528
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but we've seen in the past other

529
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: leads have come on saying at the beginning, you know,

530
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: we want X Y Z, like they're set, like we

531
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: want a partner that has certain qualities, and then by

532
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: the end, I feel like I've been rocked where I'm like,

533
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: you weren't adding up with what you were saying at

534
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: the beginning, and you get kind of lost in the

535
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: middle of the filming and just in the show, I guess.

536
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: And so I'm hopeful. You know, again, I don't know

537
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: too much about Zach, so I'm hopeful that this season

538
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: will surprise me. But I do hope, like he said,

539
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 1: he is consistent and goes in saying what he wants

540
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: and being able to find that at the end, I

541
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: mean right, like that's ended, Like we want him to

542
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: find love, whether you like Zach or not. Like we

543
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: still want these leads and these contestants to find a

544
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: partner in life. So let's get into some more fun stuff.

545
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: You did a lot in this past year, as we

546
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: said at the beginning, you've traveled all over the world.

547
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: Where was through this past year for the seasons? Where

548
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: was your favorite place that you've traveled to for the show? Oh,

549
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: we were so lucky to get back out traveling again.

550
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: I feel like I started hosting right at the time

551
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: where they opened everything back up Raykavic for me, Michelle's

552
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: laughing because she did, I'm literally so freaking okay, I

553
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: not salty. I'm not salty about a lot of things.

554
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm salty about this and I didn't realize I was salty.

555
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: I am. It was amazing. I had been there before

556
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: with my brother. We stayed for only a couple of days.

557
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: We were there for about two weeks with Clayton, Um, Susie,

558
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: Gabby and Rachel, and it was it was amazing. It

559
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: was so cold, it was so dark all the time,

560
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: but I love like the Scandinavian thing. Maybe it'cause I'm Canadian.

561
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: I don't mind cold weather. I just thought it was

562
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: it was so beautiful. Emily came out, we got to

563
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: kind of we had like one day off for her

564
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: and I got to drive around the Golden Circle and

565
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: there was like geyser's coming out of the snow, and

566
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: there was waterfalls, and there was like stuff bubbling off

567
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: to the side of the road, and there was just

568
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: like there was all this crater. There's a crater. There's

569
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: all this crazy stuff. It was really really cool. Um,

570
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: Gabby and Rachel's season. You know, we were on the

571
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: boat on kind of going up the coast of northern Europe. Um.

572
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time in Bruige. I don't

573
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: know if you get you guys been to Bruge. No,

574
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. I hope you get to visit. It's just

575
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: this really small medieval city. It's so well well caps

576
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: It's like chocolate, It's like waffles, French fries. It's just

577
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: so that's all you needed to say. Chocolate, waffles, fries.

578
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: Why why are we not there already? It was all

579
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: it was all the things so that that was also

580
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: so great. And then um uh and honestly, Paradise, you know,

581
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: I know people talk about how hot it is and everything,

582
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: and we were there for forever. It was. It was

583
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: a longer season than normal. Um I really I really

584
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: enjoyed Paradise. I really. Okay, Jesse, I'm gonna ask you this.

585
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: I've never been to Paradise. Okay, Rebecca's been there, but

586
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: are you. I feel like as our host, you might

587
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: have a slightly different amount of time that you're in

588
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: the hot sun like you do, like you know what

589
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: I means, Like there's contesting though you come no reprieve,

590
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: but you come out and then you do that. Not

591
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm not docking your work because you do a ton,

592
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: but you're probably in the air conditioning a lot, right. Well,

593
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, you can have a

594
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: lot of contestants coming after you with a big Having

595
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: the AC definitely makes that experience entirely different. And actually

596
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: getting to sleep unlikely people correct in eight hours with

597
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: one of these sleep masks and everything. Okay, but when

598
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: you're so I know that you don't sleep where they

599
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: film I do, But do you yeah? Something? No, I

600
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: stayed I stayed down at inside Alida, like where everybody stays.

601
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 1: But the rooms there they take out all the air conditioning,

602
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: Like even in your holding room, isn't it still so hot?

603
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: You just have to keep the windows open and just

604
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: let the breeze like be your cooling system. Yeah, se,

605
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: so do you them honestly? You know, maybe I'll show

606
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: up on the sand just to see what your conditions are. Like, okay, Jesse,

607
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: show up on the sand for their tacos. Their tacos

608
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: are worth it, Yes, I'm telling you, so they get right.

609
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: Tacos were good. You know it was I personally, and

610
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't hate crabs actually like crabs. They argue, I wasn't.

611
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't afraid of the crabs. So you okay, So

612
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm so shocked that you said Paradise. But okay, so

613
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: you've done Paradise right. You have the Paradise scene under

614
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: your belt. You have the Bachelor's see do you have

615
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: the Bachelorette. What has been your favorite piece or favorite

616
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 1: show to host? And you can even also include like

617
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: ESPN two and whatever bug across the board, what is

618
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: your favorite show? Nobody's allowed to have hard feelings. Oh,

619
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: it's it's so hard. Football obviously sort of a wheelhouse

620
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: job because I've been doing this since I was seven,

621
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: so it's where I feel comfortable, um the most maybe,

622
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: But like I said earlier, the Bachelor, like any of

623
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: those shows, I've been great because I feel like they're

624
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: all they're all different, and again it really comes down

625
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: to it comes down to the people. It's it's new stories,

626
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: it's new journeys. Um, it's for the last the three

627
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: shows I've I've hosted, it's always been new, new places

628
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: we've been traveling and and all new stories. It's been

629
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: It's been amazing that that's the most fun I've had.

630
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: And I feel like you get so much variety and

631
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: all that you do, which is probably also a fun part.

632
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: It's like you said, football is vastly different that I'm

633
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: assuming hosting Paradise versus Bacher, it's like you are always

634
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: kind of on your toes. So that leads me to

635
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: my next question. What is one moment or situation where throughout,

636
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: whether it's Bacher, Boucherette or Paradise, that has been like

637
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: the messiest or were you in your mind were like

638
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with this. I don't know

639
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: how to handle this. I don't want to touch this

640
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: like throughout this past year. Give us like some good

641
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: juicy details about like well, a messy, messy moment. There's

642
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: two right away, like you're you're saying, you're asking that

643
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: question and right away, like there's two moments that come

644
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: up right away. The first was back in Raka Vic.

645
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: It was the rose ceremony from hell Oh Yes. It

646
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: was really intense, really emotional, and it was one of

647
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: those situations where you know, Clayton and I had spoken

648
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: for forehand about what he was going to say, what

649
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: was on his mind, what he was thinking, what he

650
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: was feeling, and you know, when he told me what

651
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: he was going to do, he just sort of knew

652
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: where that was going. And I just obviously in that moment,

653
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: really felt for the women and that was a very

654
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: I just remember just being incredibly incredibly emotional. UM, and

655
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: I think that came across. I think for people that

656
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: saw that, UM, that really came across. The second one

657
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: would have been a rose ceremony during the Bachelorette when

658
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: Rachel had three different guys rejector roses. UM. We never

659
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: saw that that situation arising. UM. I know that was

660
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: sort of a moment that we were just kind of

661
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: riding the lightning and seeing what would happen. Um. But

662
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: I think being in the room and just looking at

663
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: Rachel and just kind of seeing seeing how that was

664
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: affecting her, especially too, because I know that she had

665
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: just been through the season, the previous season with Clayton,

666
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: and she of course she was part of that real

667
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: ceremony from Hell obviously. Um, that was that that was

668
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: really tough. I could just see how devastated she was.

669
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: And so those were those were two two moments that

670
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: I never anticipated happening. Um, And just in the moment,

671
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: just trying to help navigate it and help them navigate

672
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: it as best as best as possible. Okay, be honest.

673
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a contestant where you were like,

674
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: I want to sit them down and give them a

675
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: piece of my mind? Um there, Yeah, there's a lot

676
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: of those. I feel like a lot of those happened

677
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: in Paradise. Yeah. It's the heat in l It's everything

678
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: the crabs, I think you're right. Yeah, it's a combination

679
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: of like Margarita's and humidity and no breeze, um, and

680
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: people just pop off a lot um. And sometimes stuff happened.

681
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of it's what happens what's being filmed,

682
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: but there's also a lot of stuff that happens off camera,

683
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: and you sort of see sometimes interactions they're having with

684
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: producers or with even with camp, with camera operators, audio people. Um,

685
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: it's just not very nice and it's sort of just

686
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: a moment where you just have to be like, hey,

687
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, you still got to be respectful of everybody here.

688
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: And look, it's hot for you, it's hot for them.

689
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not the only one that's awake till five.

690
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: And they have also have a gear on them. Yeah,

691
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: this woman's been carrying a camera all day, all night. People.

692
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: I have so respect I loved my kid, Martine. I

693
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: love all of them. I literally still talk to them

694
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: to this day. Okay, so this question just popped in

695
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: my head as we spoke about it. You're a host,

696
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: and so you really are popping in and out and

697
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: helping the contestants or the leads navigate and really functioning

698
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: with them as one unit. Correct, But you are not

699
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: with everybody all day every day. How how do you

700
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: stay informed? Like, how are you you know, at the

701
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: piece at times where you're not there, how do you

702
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: stay informed about what's taking place so that like you're

703
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: on the same page. Yeah, I'm constantly checking it. If

704
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm not there, I'm constantly checking in with producers throughout

705
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: the day and getting and asking for updates and trying

706
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: to be proactive about that. I've also actually started hanging

707
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: around and being in the background on a lot of dates,

708
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: just sort of incognitio, just like dates, and I keep

709
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: like showing up. You know, It's like the Wells Wells

710
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: in Paradise when like who went on the date was

711
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: a Danielle and Michael and then Wells just keeps popping up.

712
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: Essentially that's Jesse, except for like he's just behind and

713
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: you don't know it. I'm in the Kardashians when like

714
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: I think it's Chloe pops up over the booth the

715
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: restaurant would have been innoculars on a donkey, so out

716
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: of place. Um, yeah, it's and so like it's another

717
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: it's another way just to sort of be present and

718
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: to see it, because when you're getting it firsthand, obviously

719
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: it gives you better perspective on everything. And also what

720
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: what what I've found out too is um oftentimes when

721
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: you're there, like this happened a couple of times on

722
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: Zach season where I was just I just decided to

723
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: go and hang out and be there to see what happened.

724
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: Something goes down and then you're there to to talk

725
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: to Zach or talk with one of the cast members,

726
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's going to error, if

727
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: it's not going to air. I haven't seen any of

728
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: it yet, but um, it just it's better for me.

729
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: I like to be involved. I just really want to

730
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: be a part of it. And two, sometimes there's these

731
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: moments that just happened that where it's it's not anticipated,

732
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: and then that way you can you can sort of

733
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: be there to act and you know, hopefully do my job. Yeah.

734
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: Man see, I feel like that would be the fun

735
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: part of hosting is being able to just kind of

736
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: sit and watch it. I'll go down, Like obviously you'll

737
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: watch the show when it airs, but there's so much

738
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: that viewers will never see, so to be part of

739
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: that it's probably some bit of beneficial for your job

740
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: as hosts, but also just being a support system. Um okay,

741
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: without giving too much away, can you give us a

742
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: little teaser about what to expect from Zach's upcoming season. Yeah,

743
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: I would say that Zach season is a bit of

744
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: a throwback season in the sense that this is really

745
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: about the love story. It's not so much about the drama.

746
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: And I know, and some past seasons, drama takes over,

747
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: and every season of Bachelorette, every season of Bachelor, there

748
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: is going to be drama. That's just something you can avoid.

749
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: But this season really is less about that, and it's

750
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: really more about the love story and about Zach trying

751
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: to find his person. He's really really intentional. I think

752
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: one of the things that I was so impressed with

753
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: watching Zach is that he really made a point to

754
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: talk to everybody. And I know, I know, like when

755
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: I was a baschelor, I know, you know, group day,

756
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: rose ceremony, I'm like, yeah, no problem, I'll talk to everybody.

757
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: And then things happen and there's drama and someone you know,

758
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: can I steal your for a second, And all of

759
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: a sudden you realize, oh my god, I'm only spoken

760
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: to literally half the people, no wonder, everybody's upset. Zach

761
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: made a point of getting time with every single woman virtually,

762
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: virtually every day. There may be one or two that

763
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: he didn't, but he was really intent on that. I

764
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: think part of that is probably because of his experience

765
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: on Rachel's season. He had a lot of time taken

766
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: away because a lot of stuff that happened. But I

767
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 1: think a lot of that is really Zach and sort

768
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: of kind of what he wants to do. Also, this

769
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: is easily the most emotional season that I've hosted, not

770
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: even Clayton. Can you tease why? Because I feel okay, yeah,

771
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: I want to. I want you to explain how you

772
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: see that because when I sit over here and think

773
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: about emotion or even as a view or a lot

774
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: of times we just take emotion as it's not a

775
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: dramatic season unless everybody's crying. I'm not a big crier,

776
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: and so there are a lot of times where I'll

777
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: use me I'll be really hurting and I'll use my words.

778
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: But that's not emotion because you're not like outwardly expressive

779
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: expressing it. So would you say when you're talking about

780
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: it's the most emotional season, is it because of the

781
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: things that happened and it triggers the viewer's heartstrings? Or

782
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: is it because there's a lot of crying emotion, like yeah,

783
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: so I think I think it's a lot of expressive emotion.

784
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 1: I think the biggest reason why and more than maybe

785
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: more than paradise. And I'm not kidding, by the way,

786
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: I think the thing that going back to Night one,

787
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 1: I remember watching the women get out of the limo,

788
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: and it was a first for me in the sense

789
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: that it was the most I've ever seen of people

790
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: getting out of the limo, walking up to the lead

791
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: and saying, I'm so happy it's you. I'm here for you.

792
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: When I found out You're the Bachelor, I decided I

793
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: wanted to come and do this. I didn't experience that

794
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: with Clayton, obviously, because no one had seen Clayton on

795
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: TV before we started filming his right, Michelle, your season

796
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: hadn't yet aired, so so a lot of the women

797
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: got out of it and they had never seen Quayton

798
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: before in their lives. Um these women, I think were

799
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: very emotionally invested and hopeful of finding love. Was Zach

800
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 1: Um And also, Zach is an extremely emotional bachelor. He's

801
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: just a very he's a very emotional man, and and

802
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: he's expressively Zach Zach CRY's a lot. And but it's

803
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: because he has such a big heart, um, and he

804
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: genuinely cares about people's feelings and his impact and you know,

805
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: his actions and how that how that affects people. Um.

806
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: The hardest part of this whole thing for Zach was

807
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: I was saying to you, is is goodbyes? Yeah, when

808
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: he says goodbye to people, it breaks him. It really

809
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: really does. And so this season for me, from just

810
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: the emotion, it's not it's not because of drama or

811
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: you know, backstabbing or things that are happening to behind

812
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: the scenes. It's really because of the love and sort

813
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: of in the pursuit of that and the relationships that

814
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: he forms to me is something that really stands out. Yeah,

815
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: I mean I love the fact that I do love

816
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: the fact that he's like a man who's comfortable with

817
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: his emotions and being able to show emotions. So like

818
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: I do, I like, I will already applaud that. I

819
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: think that's amazing. I'm really curious to see how the

820
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: public responds to his emotion because as a female, I

821
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: don't know why you're just even listening to you as

822
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: you're speaking about it. It is this really cool, beautiful thing.

823
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: As a female, it's really actually it's kind of frustrating

824
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: to see that, you know, when Bachelor's when men cry,

825
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: it's this, oh my goodness, it's this beautiful thing because

826
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: it's a like, you know, a man showing emotion versus

827
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: like when women cry. We're cry babies and we're too emotional.

828
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: So I'm so curious to see how the public responds

829
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: to this, and I hope that they respond to it

830
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: in a positive way. And I also hope that when

831
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: other females are also showing that same emotion on Zach's season,

832
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: I really hope that the audience responds in a positive

833
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: way as well, just because to you know, I hope

834
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: the vulnerability is widely accepted across the board this season. Yeah.

835
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: You know, one of the beautiful things I think about

836
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: kind of Zach's approach on the show too, is that

837
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: I think sometimes, you know, like you said, for men,

838
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think back to myself being a former

839
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: football player, where it's never okay to show emotion and

840
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: you can't ask for help and you have to figure

841
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: everything out bout yourself. I internalized everything for a very

842
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: very long time, emotionally, myself, and I had to grow

843
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: a lot that way. I think sometimes one of the

844
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: things I think Zach understood going in into this season

845
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: was that he had to be intentional with his actions.

846
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: And because it because you know a lot of these

847
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: women on night when they're so nerves nervous, you know,

848
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: you remember how all of us were on Night one.

849
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: It's just all the cameras. You're not sure how you

850
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: can behave can you be yourself? I think Zach's actions

851
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: I think helped allow everybody to feel comfortable and safe

852
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: to say things, to to behave a certain way to

853
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: cry if if they wanted to cry, and not be

854
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: judged for it, you know. And and Zach, Zach really

855
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: showed his shows his emotion early, and I think that

856
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: that helps people, you know it really, he really, I

857
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: think did a good job of building a safe space

858
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: for everybody you know, in the room in the mansion

859
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: to sort of feel like they could hopefully be their

860
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: most authentic self. Um And so you know, I hope

861
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: people when they see him don't think he's you know,

862
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: he's he's less of a man because of it or

863
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: anything like that. This is just authentically who he is.

864
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: Sort of goes back to that authenticity about Zach. He's

865
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: not he's not trying to be James Bond Bachelor. He's

866
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: He's just being Zach. Right. Ain't nothing wrong with the tears.

867
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: There's really an there's really not. Yeah, so I'm hoping

868
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: actually this this leads let me do a good question

869
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: for batcheur Nation as a whole. You know, Jesse, we

870
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: always have New Year's resolutions for ourselves, but for bacheur Nation,

871
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: is there something that you would love to see happen

872
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: this year as a whole, whether that's like within the franchise,

873
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: within the fan base, whatever it might be. Um, from

874
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: the franchise, what about like a senior Bachelor. I know

875
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: that's something that keeps kind of people talk about a

876
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: little bit, Michelle, Are we going to do that? I

877
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: hope so? Sign so I hope so they keep teasing

878
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: it and you know, um, I mean you know, Jesse,

879
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: you're the ones who are you know, reading all these

880
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: lines after an episode finishes of like stay tuned to

881
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: this or like applying here? Um, I feel like, do

882
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: you have any insight? Because I havn't to tease this

883
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: senior Bachelor sign up here? Like I think casting now, Oh,

884
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: I would love it. I hope we do it. Um,

885
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: And what's considered senior? See, I don't think that's what? Like,

886
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: do you need an AARP membership? Is that the baseline?

887
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: I don't know dentures you can't have your own team.

888
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: All I know is that if this, if that show happens,

889
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: Grandpa John needs to be the number one contestant or bachelor.

890
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: Who knows what wouldn't he be amazing? I wonder, I

891
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: wonder sometimes if that was the guy they had in

892
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: mind for this whole thing. Maybe maybe we just keep

893
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: doing these cast and call advertisements trying to co earth

894
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: him into doing it. Gabby's told me no way, Like

895
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: she's told me multiple times, absolutely not. It would be

896
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: so good and she could be alongside him, helping him

897
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: guide his heart on this journey. Yes, I think it

898
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: would be so great. Um, Jesse, we can pack your

899
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: brain and talk about this. I feel like forever I

900
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: know that you are a busy, busy man. So before

901
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: we let you go, we're going to get into our

902
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: resource part of the podcast. We think it's so important

903
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: to always keep our listeners informed and share important important

904
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: resources that we come across and that we love again.

905
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: Everyone will always try to include this on our instagrams too,

906
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: so it's an easy place that our followers can go

907
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: and check out. So with that, Michelle, do you want

908
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: to kick it off? Do you want me to kick

909
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 1: it off? I'll take it away about it. So, I've

910
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: been a lot of times my resources have been podcasts

911
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: or video like something, video documentaries, documseries, and I'm this one.

912
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep it very simple and short and

913
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: concise because I know that everybody has a lot going

914
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: on in this new year and things like that. But

915
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: it's actually this article a post on my story. It's

916
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: called How Not to Be an Ally. There's a little

917
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: video that goes with it, and it really just does

918
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: a good job of explaining kind of the stereotypes of

919
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: how people typically perform or feel that they the way

920
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: that they feel they need to be as an ally

921
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: versus what we actually really need. And a lot of

922
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: it goes in too with when you're signing on or

923
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: when you're speaking about becoming an ally. Yes, it's important

924
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: to speak up during these moments of really these big,

925
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: big issues that are taking place, and that's ten that

926
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: tends to be when we see these things step up,

927
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: But if you truly are an ally, that means that

928
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: your work is never ending. And so that means that

929
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: when there's not this massive of events such as George

930
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: Floyd or you know, all these other things going on,

931
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: you still should be doing work and you you still

932
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: have to hold yourself to that expectation. And that's what

933
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: a true ally looks like. So it really does a

934
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: good job of pulling in that apart, dissecting it misconceptions

935
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: and stereotypes of what you should be doing versus what

936
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: you are doing versus what you should be doing, and

937
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: it kind of just really clarifies it because I think

938
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: it can sometimes become like this like taboo topic to

939
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: talk about where people don't really know how to get started,

940
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: and it's a wonderful place for people to start. So again,

941
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: I will tag that article on my story for people

942
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: to give a quick read. Thanks Michelle, so Jesse, I'll

943
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: go really quick and then we'll let you wrap that

944
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 1: one up. But so, this is an article slash video

945
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: and it's from PBS and it actually came out in

946
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, so I know it's a few years old,

947
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: but I think it's still very important and timely. The

948
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: name of it is the critical role white parents play

949
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: in shaping racism and helping eradicate it. And it's by

950
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: and if I pronounced her name incorrectly, apologies, Charlaine Hunter Gult.

951
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: And basically she brings on this woman who I believe

952
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: it was part of one of her courses. She went

953
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: into these more so white affluent districts, neighborhoods, communities and

954
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: sat down with kids and parents and just she started

955
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: out like asking them about American history, just to see

956
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: what kind of gauge these children had from their history classes,

957
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: and a lot of it. She realized history classes in

958
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: more white affluent schools, neighborhoods, communities didn't do a great

959
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: job of getting into like the real roots of American

960
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: history and the racism that occurs that still is occurring,

961
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: but you know, occurred when this country was built. And

962
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: so she meets with these children, but then also chats

963
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: with the parents of like what they can do to

964
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: combat this and help this. And one thing that she

965
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: it was like her main takeaway was not just talking

966
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: to children about racism, like that's a step, but she's

967
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: her main thing was how can parents immerse their children

968
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: into more diversity, so they see people of color, they

969
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: see how other people live that aren't white, that aren't

970
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: as wealthy, and so it's it's a quick video and

971
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: the transcript is all there. Again. It's called the critical

972
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: role White parents play in shaping racism and eradicating it.

973
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 1: And I thought it was a good one because Thomas

974
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: and I, you know, he is a black man, I'm

975
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: a white woman one day, hopefully sooner rather than later.

976
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: We want to have our own children and that's a

977
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: top topic of conversation that we're not only going to

978
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: have to have, but we also want to immrese oort

979
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: of children in more diversity. And so I thought that

980
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: was a good, good article in video. Again, like Michelle said,

981
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: I will take that on my Instagram too for everyone

982
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: to check out. But with that, Jesse, you do you

983
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: have a resource you would like to share? Yeah, there

984
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: was an article I was I was reading earlier this

985
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: year on NPR News and it's it's a little bit

986
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: about diversity, equity and inclusion. And I know we talk

987
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: a lot about the importance of having that in society

988
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: and our businesses and in schools. Yeah, it's happening in

989
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: sports as well though, and before this last NFL season,

990
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: in the owners meetings that the NFL came out with

991
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: with a new rule requiring teams to hire minority coaches

992
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: and women actually on their staffs in offensive positions on

993
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: the coaching staff. One of the big shoes right now

994
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: in the National Football League is I think there's about

995
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: sixty percent or so, if not more, players are African American.

996
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: There's only three three head coaches right now they're African American,

997
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: and they're trying to find creative ways on how they

998
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: can combat that and how they can get more opportunity

999
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: for people of color. And they found that historically head

1000
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: coaches come from offensive backgrounds and play calling, and so

1001
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: they're trying now to kind of to go out and

1002
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: to get these teams to look and hire coaches in

1003
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: that position. It's not just like anybody can come off

1004
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: the street and become that coach. They have to have

1005
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: experience at the collegiate and a pro level. But they

1006
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: think this is a way that it can actually give

1007
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: opportunities to people to show their value. And the same

1008
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: goes for women too. I love the idea of women

1009
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: getting into coaching in football, because I think both of

1010
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: these examples show that, you know, sometimes when you fight

1011
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: against these stereotypes and these these preconceived notions of what

1012
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 1: you think people can do, and you end up being

1013
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: proven wrong and you find out that they bring so

1014
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: much value and they make your team, or they make

1015
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: your business, or they make your classroom better. And so

1016
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: I think it's great that in pro sports we're seeing

1017
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: this as well, and at least we're trying, they're trying

1018
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: to make a change, and it's it's it's at least

1019
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: a process. People are trying to come up with creative solutions.

1020
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: And I know people can certainly go online to read

1021
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: more about this and what the NFL is trying to do.

1022
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: Obviously the NFL's my background, having played pro football, but

1023
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: I just really love the idea I work with, just

1024
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: with people getting opportunity and being empowered and enabled to

1025
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: do that I think is going to make is going

1026
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: to make the NFL just whole a whole bunch of matter.

1027
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: People can read about it online. Yeah, that's awesome. It's

1028
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: like with anything in life, you want, you want people

1029
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: on a higher level to mirror the real life. So

1030
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad that we had you on because

1031
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, Michelle and I have talked about resources every

1032
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: week that we did this podcast. But like that's you know,

1033
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm not coming from a football mindset. I am not athletic.

1034
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't really watch football, no offense. But to see

1035
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: see this the resources in this conversation happening in all

1036
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: varieties of life, I think is so important. So thank

1037
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: you for sharing that. UM. I know we talked a

1038
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: little bit about teasers and Zach season coming up. UM,

1039
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: I want to know your rose and thorn of your

1040
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: entire first year as the Bachelor franchise house. Okay, So

1041
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: I would say for me and it's I'll just think

1042
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: back to the most the most recent thing, Brandon and

1043
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: Serene their proposal an engagement in Paradise. I thought was beautiful.

1044
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: I've said it all along. When they got together and

1045
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: I saw them together, I'd never seen two people that

1046
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: just seem to be more perfect for each other. And

1047
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: for that to ride out throughout the entire course of

1048
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: the season and to end an engagement which I thought

1049
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: was which I thought was beautiful. Um that was that

1050
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: was certainly a high note for me. H thorn from

1051
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,479
Speaker 1: this season and I hope I won't get in trouble

1052
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: for saying this. I basically mistakenly told Zach where we

1053
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: were going for the final exotic location. And I wasn't

1054
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: supposed to. Oh, that's happened to everyone. I think, Yeah,

1055
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: you think so. I don't know. I was like, oh,

1056
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: I was probably still so excited right when you told him.

1057
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: I did it right in front of the producers. We

1058
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: were on a plane. We were on a plane and

1059
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: we were going somewhere, and we just had a row

1060
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: ceremony or something the night before, and everybody was like

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00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: super exhausted, and I know they were like, don't tell Zach.

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00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: Remember it's a it's a secret. And I kept all

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00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: the other the other locations secretive, and in a moment

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00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: of like weakness and two hours of sleep, I blurted

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00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: out where we were going because I was super excited.

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00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 1: I'd never been there before, I'd always wanted to go there.

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00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: I could not wait to spend two weeks there. And

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00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: of course I told Zach. And when I said it,

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00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: I tried to like it was like I said it,

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00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: And then I stopped and looked to see if anybody noticed. Yeah,

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00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: and I can definitely notice it happens. Don't feel bad

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00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: about it. I felt so bad about it for like

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00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: four days and likes and be like, oh yeah, yeah,

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00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: at least okay, So where was it? So I can't,

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00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: I can't say against several months, He's like, I'm not

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00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: going to say anywhere ever again and tell an air

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00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: ever again. Well, Jesse, this was so much fun. We

1078
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: have come full circle from January third, twenty twenty two

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00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: to January third, twenty twenty three. You have lived a

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00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: lifetime within this franchise and we're so happy we could

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00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: have you back on again today. So thank you for

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00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: joining us. Yeah, thanks so much. It's so great to

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00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: seeing you again, especially this time of the year. And

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00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: I hope this becomes a regular occurrence with you. Buff.

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00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: I know, pencilison for January third next year, Let's do it. Jesse,

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00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: Happy New Year. So good to see you. He's he's

1087
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 1: always so great. I love having him. He's just such

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00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: a kind soul, and I think he does a really

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00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: good job of whoever he's talking to. He makes you

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00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: feel heard and important, so I can see why they

1091
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: picked him as the host, especially to be alongside the leads.

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00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely and one thing that I feel like I noticed

1093
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: about him is that he's understanding and he doesn't expect

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00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: himself to be an expert. He very much it comes

1095
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: off as or handles himself in a way of I'm

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00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: learning right alongside of you or whoever the lead is.

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00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: And that's what I really love about him, is that,

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00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: I think it's just it's just fresh. It's just he's

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00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: just willing to kind of like continue to observe but

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00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: all offer help and like also like craft kind of

1101
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: figure out the craft of the whole hosting situation. I'm

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00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: always willing to learn. So that's what I mean. Yeah,

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00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: and I he said something very great too, and that

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00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: was you know, if he's ever giving advice, he doesn't.

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00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to give it advice, right Like he

1106
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: can give his side of things what he experience as

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01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: a lead years ago, but he just wants to be

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01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: that support system, which I think everyone can take to heart.

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01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: And you know, we've all lived through this experience. Like

1110
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: you and I were both batsherettes, but what we experienced

1111
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: during our time on the show was vastly different and

1112
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 1: we did things in a way different ways, and so

1113
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 1: and that's everyone, and so I think that's a great

1114
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: perspective to go into it, of like I want to

1115
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: be here for you and have your back and support you,

1116
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: but I don't want to tell you how to do things.

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01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: I think that's right, very important. Yeah, I guess he

1118
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: got me a little bit more excited for Zach's season. Again.

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01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't know too much about Zach other than when

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01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: we had him on our podcast a few months conducts

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01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: and say weeks a few months ago now, But yeah,

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01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: it sounds like it'll be a good season. I like

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01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 1: that he said that they're going back to the basics

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01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: and it's going to be more about the love story,

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01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: which I appreciate. I do too, And I really I'm

1126
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: excited to kind of see how season unfolds with everything,

1127
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: and I feel like I really hope that we can

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01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: learn more about the contestants, just because I feel like

1129
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: oftentimes we learn we always learned the bad things, we'd

1130
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: always learned the drama, but it would be really nice

1131
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: to just know more about the contestants, especially because a

1132
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: lead typically comes from somebody who's been in the mix

1133
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: and it's just been all these situations oftentimes where it's

1134
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: like a lead is stepping into the role and it's

1135
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: hard to feel connected with them because you don't know anything,

1136
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: right And yeah, and we definitely saw that last year.

1137
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: You know, as Jesse said, no one really knew Clayton

1138
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: coming on. I mean, I guess we were. We did

1139
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: because we watched your season with him, but the contestants

1140
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,919
Speaker 1: going on didn't know much about him. And I also

1141
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: feel like with Gabby and Rachel's season, so much was

1142
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: sent it around those two, and I think having a

1143
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: dual Bachehorrette season really took away from contestant time. And

1144
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: so I think Zach season starting fresh, having people know

1145
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: who he is beforehand, even though it's not much, I

1146
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: think will hopefully lend to that. So Michelle, it's so

1147
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: good to see you again after you know, all the

1148
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: holidays in the new year. I always love catching up

1149
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: with you, So thank you for being back, and thank

1150
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: you to all of our Happy Hour listeners who joined

1151
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: us again in this new year. And also thank you

1152
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: Jesse for being here. I know that you're a busy man,

1153
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,960
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