WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Draft Countdown - Ep. 6 with Brian Baldinger & Dane Brugler 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:05.760 Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast, continuing 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:10.119 our Draft countdown series presented by Verizon, And on today's episode, 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:12.880 you're gonna hear from Dane Brugler of The Athletic. We 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.800 went through another draft scenario for the New York Jets, 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:19.880 in this case talking about going offensive tackle at eleven, 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.160 followed by receiver in round two, and then edge corner 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:25.640 and round three. And then Olivia Land has caught up 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.960 with Brian Baldinger, who, of course he's infamous for his 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.960 Baldi's breakdowns, and they talked some Jets drafts, some Jets 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.159 free agency. But first things first, A in terms of 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:39.800 Bruegler's draft board, somebody that he thought could be available 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.960 in round two because of some medical concerns, but would 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.960 be a quote unquote steal for the Jets. That's Colorado 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.160 receiver Levisca Chenal. Wow, he's a big guy, right green 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:53.360 six ft two, twenty seven pounds. I wonder if he's 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:57.800 gonna play a toe on the next level. He led 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.000 the Buffaloes and receiving the last couple of years and 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.680 the seventh wide receiver. What in school history of the 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.040 eclipse of thousand yard mark in a single season. Um. 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:12.040 But what comes to mind with him, like a lot 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:15.520 of these guys who have dealt with some injuries, is 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:21.280 where did teams think of la Visca Chenult now following 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:25.160 his core muscle surgery in March? Did debt hurt his 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:31.880 stock and potentially made teams benefit from that because listen, 0:01:31.880 --> 0:01:35.080 he might drop just a little bit and you might 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:39.880 have fined tremendous value there because this dude was a 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:45.520 productive receiver out west in the pack. I think it's 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.040 that's not the case for just Chanalt, but every receiver 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.840 that's been banged up in this pre draft process, and 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:53.880 real quick about chin Alt, the thing that stands out 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:58.320 to me, fifty percent of his total receiving yards at 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:02.440 Colorado have come after contact. To your point, big dude, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.040 two twenty seven pounds of physical receiver. Here he is 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.120 Dane Brugler of the athletic Dane. Let's take a look 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.400 at another scenario here, probably the most popular one in 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.800 the mock draft circuit. That would be the Jets going 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.799 offensive tackle at eleven. And we know about the big 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:23.760 four between Jeddrick Wales and McKay, Beckton Tristans and Andrew Thomas, 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.600 But if you were Joe Douglas and all four guys 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.720 were on the board at eleven, who would you pick 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.960 for the Jets and Y? Personally, I would go with 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.680 Jeddrick Wills from Alabama. I think he's a great fit. Um. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.920 He's a muhler in the run game, uses that natural strength, 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.200 the heavy hands where he can just steam roll whatever 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.480 is in his way. Uh, and then in pass protection 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.560 he has the hip flexibility, the feet he can hold 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.840 his own. He played in thirty nine games at Alabama 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.520 the last three years, gave up one sack. So this 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.880 is a guy with a lot of ability. UM. He's 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.680 known more as a run blocker, but he also has 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:58.720 uh the movement skills where he can hold up in 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.880 pass protection. I think when you look at it, the 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.720 biggest question might be can he play on the left side? 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.600 Dating back to high school, he's been a right tackle only, 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:10.000 and so when you look at an Alabama scheme, it's 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.640 it's important to note that he was protecting to his 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.200 blind side. It's not like they had to pigeonhole him 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.080 only on the right side because that's only where he 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:20.480 could play. UH. They wanted him at in that scheme 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.080 with two of being a lefty, they wanted him at 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.120 right tackle to help help there. So it's a little 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.400 bit of a projection if you're gonna put him at 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.000 left tackle, But all the talent that he has is 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.040 suggests he should be able to make that move um, 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.400 And it will be interesting to see if some teams 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.720 how they weighed that, because you look at McKay Beckton, 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.480 he has experienced left side right side. The same thing 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.880 with Andrew Thomas, who played right tackle as a freshman 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.000 before taking over for Isaiah Winn moving to left tackle 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.560 the last two years. And in Tristan Worse's who was 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.240 a right tackle but he only played left or right 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.720 tackle because the left tackle couldn't and so they wanted 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:56.480 to get the best guys on the field. And then 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:58.640 when the left tackle was hurt, Worst moved over to 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.720 left tackle and look looked just fine. So, uh, he 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.680 is the only one of those big four that really 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.680 has that position question. But I think he's the best 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.120 of the group and I would have no problem projecting 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.840 him that left tackle and feeling strongly that he could 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:16.880 fill that spot at left tackle just fine. So let 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.200 me ask you this, if he were in fact a 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.320 day one starting right tackle for the Jets in this scenario, 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.760 do you think the eleventh pick is too rich for 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.640 a right tackle or do you think, you know what, 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.000 he's the best offensive lineman. The way the game's going, 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.200 it doesn't really matter what position you play up front, 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.839 as long as you're a good player. I don't people 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.599 get too caught up in the left tackle right tackle thing. Uh. 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.440 You know, a lot of defenses are gonna put their 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.760 best pass rusher against the right tackle. Uh. They're they're 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.039 looking for matchups so that you know, you have to 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:50.400 have your two tackles be very good pass protectors. It's 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.480 not like it was twenty five years ago, where you 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.120 had the more athletic blocker on the left side. You 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.479 had more of your your bigger guy, your run blocker 0:04:57.520 --> 0:04:59.200 on the right side, and that's kind of where you 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.159 would uh filter the runs. It's just things are different 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.440 in today's NFL. And so when von Miller is going 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.039 up against your right tackle, uh, you know, and you 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.359 can't really make that switch in game. Your left tackle 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.599 is gonna stay there, your right tackle is gonna stay there. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:15.480 You need someone who can hold up. So with a 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.040 guy like Jeddrick Wills, I think you feel really comfortable 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.040 with what he can do at right tackle, but again 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.520 I would have no no problem moving to the left 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.400 side and feeling very confident he could hold that down 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.000 and get better as type goes on. Okay, So in 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.640 this hypothetical scenario, Jets addressed tackle in round one and 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:35.560 then very popular opinion here going receiver in round two. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.719 So who are some guys that you think could be 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.480 on the board at fourth eight and who makes sense 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.320 for the Jets. I'm looking at Lavisca Chenal. I think 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.560 he's one of the most talented receivers in this draft, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:47.840 and this could be you know, the Titans last year 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.320 got a really good second round value in a j Brown. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.320 This could be the Jets version of that in the 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.719 second round. He's at his best with the ball in 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.080 his hands. He can make defenders miss. He accelerates really well, 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.080 so it throws off suit angles. Uh in coverage. I 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.520 think he has a physicality where you can break tackles. 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:06.800 That's kind of the double edged sword with him, though. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:09.680 That physicality is a ball carrier that also leads the 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.760 more punishment on his body, and that's one of the 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:14.680 reasons why he could be available for the Jets in 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.440 round two is just the durability questions. So if he 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.920 can mature as a route runner and stay healthy, Chenal, 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.520 It's gonna end up being a steal in the second 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.479 round due to the versatile package of skills that he offers, 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.159 the natural instincts when the ball is in his hands. 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.000 I'm a big fan of Lavisca Chanal, and I think 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.039 that would be a great fit in round two for 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.160 the Jets. Isn't Chanalt another guy that had an if 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.039 he combine, it doesn't really have an opportunity to prove 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.960 himself because of the coronavirus pandemic. Yeah, and again that's 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:48.240 why you know, we talked about the in last week's segment, 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.800 how that could hurt a guy like Brian Edwards or 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.279 Van Jefferson and how they could be available in the 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:57.080 third Lavisca Chenalt's a first round talent, but why he 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.120 would be available in a second is because, uh, just 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.400 like you mentioned, he did run at the combine, didn't 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.839 run very well, but he also had a core muscle 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.400 injury that he had surgery for right after the combine, 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.480 And so even if the pandemic weren't going on, they 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.360 probably weren't wasn't gonna be able to work out before 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.640 the draft. But without having the medical rechecks, that is 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.120 one of another one of those reasons why you know, 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.000 we probably you know, he could fall to that mid 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.720 second round range because we won't have necessarily updated medicals. 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:32.520 Now to agents and players, they can send independent medical 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:36.600 information to these teams. But you know, if you're a team, 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.080 it's not your medical staff that's looking at him. You know, 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.240 you're not looking for the same things. It's you don't 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.680 know how independent that doctor truly is, And so you 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.200 have to take it a little bit with the grain 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.480 of salt and have uh, you know, you have to 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.640 kind of look at it with a little bit of apprehension. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.760 But there's still a lot to glean from that, and 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.640 I think Viscastionel is just too talented to fall too 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.320 far in the second round. That mid second round range 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:02.200 would be great value there day. So if the Jets 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.720 go tackle and then receiver in rounds one and two, 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.720 if you were to probably define the jets is four 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.960 needs entering this offseason, you'd say tackle, receiver, edge, cornerbacks. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.160 So if the Jets decide to address the defensive side 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.400 of the ball in round three, they have two picks 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.000 in the third round. Where would you go, Yeah, and 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.400 I think you're you look at the corner position and 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:25.720 a guy that really stands out for me in that 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.600 third round range a Meek Robertson from Louisiana Tech. He 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.280 might be the poster prospect for why you just you 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.480 don't judge a book by its cover, because it's just 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.640 looking at him standing there in the sidelines. Not very impressive. 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.920 He's five a buck eight seven. It doesn't look like much. 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.440 But the ball skills, the instincts, they're elite. And in 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.720 three years at low Tech, ridiculous ball production. Forty eight 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.600 passes defended, fourteen interceptions and three of those he returned 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.080 for touchdowns. And his coaches, they speak really highly of 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.400 his football character. They call him an ack nighter on 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.400 the field and off the field, and what he does 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.320 for that team. The size, I get it, it's it's 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.960 gonna worry you at times. He's gonna maybe give up 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.040 a little bit too much spacing because he loves debait 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.920 throws and try to make plays. But the ball production, 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:12.960 I think it's going to translate to the pro game. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:15.840 And he can tackle so you plug him inside, he 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.720 can compete with Brian Pool. Uh, you let him compete 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.719 on the outside. He's gonna add immediate depth to your 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.960 cornerback depth charts. So I love that fit. If you 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.959 decided to go look more towards the trenches, look on 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.200 for an edge rusher in the third round. Bradley and I. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.160 I think it's really interesting a guy that did not 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.599 test overly well at the combine. Not that it was 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.360 very surprising. Uh. He wins with his first step, he 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.319 wins with his hands. He's got a lot of savvy 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.839 to him. Uh, there's a lot to like about him 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.960 as an as an edge rusher. And again talking about 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.160 third round, you know he's going to have his warts. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.200 There's gonna be things that you worry about with him. 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.360 But the production that he put up at Utah talking 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:55.320 to the pack twelve blockers, Uh, you asked them, who 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.679 who is the best offensive tackle you face this year? 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:01.040 Who's the best blocker? More than they're gonna mention Bradley 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.160 and I because he is just a menace off the edge. 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.880 So third round range that that's great value for him. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.240 Two part question here one about Robertson. Do you believe 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.240 that he can play on the outside given his side. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.880 And then in terms of a NYE like where is 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.440 he come the first week of the NFL season. Is 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.840 he a contributor, as he a situational pass rusher, and 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.080 what kind of tools does he bring to a defense. 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.280 I think a NYE is he's gonna start as your 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:28.679 sub package guy. Um, you bring him off the bench, 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:32.640 He's gonna lay on nickel situations. UM. You know, he's 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:35.120 gonna be part of the rotation. And as he as 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.679 he works his way into the that rotation, I think 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.480 we'll see a snap count increase. UM, see more chances 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.000 they get on the field, maybe include a few starts 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:45.600 in there, and so you just you sprinkle him in 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:47.800 and then see how much he can take. Uh. And 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.000 then with the Mike Robertson, you know, I think ideally 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.120 you're gonna play him inside because he has a toughness 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.679 to do it, he can tackle, UM and just the 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.400 short area burst that he offers I think can really 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.000 match up well. But I don't think you have to 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:02.920 pigeonhole him as only a slot guy. I think he 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.480 can also play outside. Uh. He's just gonna give you 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:09.560 that immediate cornerback depth uh, and a guy again who's smart, 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.720 he's tough, the energy that he brings and the ball 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.800 production more than anything, the instincts that he offers. And 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:17.400 this is a guy you know people look at law 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.280 Tech and say, oh, well, he had great production there. 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.160 He had offers at l s U, it offers at Texas, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.160 but he went to Louisiana Tech. So this is a 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.760 guy who, uh, even though he doesn't look like much, 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.160 he plays with the chip on his shoulder and he 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.920 has more than just a production. The film matches up. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.120 So I think a Meek Robertson somewhere in that third 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.720 round that would make some sense. So just to recap here, 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:41.280 Jeddrick Wills at eleven, Lavisco Chanal at forty eight, and 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.480 then the Jets doubled down on defense with a Meek 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.280 Robertson and Bradley and I in the third round. And 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.040 Dane thanks a lot and we'll talk to you next week. 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.800 All right, thanks, Ethan. What do you think about that 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.800 order and how realistic it is in terms of going 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.360 receiver in the second round, edge corner in the third round, 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.520 but up top you take a well, of course that's realistic. 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.320 I mean everything right now, if you're the Jets and 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.280 you're Joe Douglas is on the table. And what I 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.640 keep on going back to in terms of the tackles is, 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:18.120 does Joe Douglas have those top four guys ranked very 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.959 closely together? Because just because one of the pundits the 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:26.040 pronosticators say, hey, the Jets have a need there, they 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:29.600 gotta take tackle. Well, if you're Joe Douglas, you don't 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:34.920 take a tackle there unless you think the value is there. 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:36.960 The other thing to keep in mind with the tackles, 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.000 and we continue to talk about this is where is 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.719 Josh Jones gonna wind up? Where's Austin Jackson gonna wind up? 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:49.160 And then you just talked to Dane about Lavisca Lavisca Chanault. 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.800 Oh my god. The receivers. The names here is just incredible. 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.400 I feel like we've been talking about this for so long, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.960 but I think that's the way you probably view the draft. Hey, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.920 can we get a receiver? Oh, can we get the tackle, 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.400 Can we get the corner? Can we get the edge. 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.520 And we'll have to see if that plays out that way. 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:12.040 In terms of those first four picks, again, how does 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.000 Joe Douglas have those guys ranked, and how is the 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:20.080 board gonna fall before eleven? And is a trade back 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.600 I don't want to say a likely scenario, but how 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:27.280 much more does it become realistic depending on how the 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:32.000 board falls, because the Jets could benefit from moving back. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.959 It'll be very interesting to see how this all plays out. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:39.120 And just under a couple of weeks Now and Olivia 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.160 caught up with Brian Baldinger, who, of course is a chameleon. 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:45.439 Like I said, he covers the NFL when it's in season, 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.160 he covers the draft and really he's known for his 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:54.240 Baldi's breakdowns. And here he is, Brian Baldinger of NFL Network. Brian, 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.920 how are you doing? Thanks so much for joining us today. Well, 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.600 it's it's a crazy period obviously for everybody around the world. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.840 We've never experienced anything like this. So you know, the 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.640 people that are out there in the front lines helping 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.240 they get they get to be the rock stars right now. 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.200 They deserve it. But we do have a draft coming 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.320 up here in Olivia and just over two weeks and 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.160 it's gonna happen. And teams, I mean, I love the draft, 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.960 we all do. And I think America actually wants to 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.560 really pay attention to what's going on because I think 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.480 it's the one time of the year where it really 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.280 gives teams hope if they can get it right. Like 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.800 I remember Olivia three years ago, the Saints drafted you know, 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:38.160 they drafted Marshawn Lattimore, Ryan Ramcheck and a running back 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.680 that just happens to be all world, you know, with 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.880 the first three picks, and it changed their entire fortune. 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:45.840 They've been in the playoffs, keeping the playoffs three straight 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.200 years in a row, and you can you can look 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.800 directly at that draft and how they have turned things around. 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.520 And that's what any team can do if they get 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:58.920 it right. Absolutely, And like like you mentioned, the draft 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.560 is coming up only a both weeks away. It's still 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.480 going on. A lot of people at some point were like, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.080 is it going to happen? What are the next steps? 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:09.560 It is going to be a virtual draft, So the 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.600 draft is still going on, which means teams are still 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.240 making that prep. I want to dive a little bit 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.960 deeper into the Jets specifically, Brian, you have followed the 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.920 team for a very long time. Joe Douglas in his 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.360 first year as a general manager for the Jets. When 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.640 you look at this draft, even though it's going to 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:32.000 be a very different approach this season, what does Joe 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:36.280 Douglas need to get done in those three days. Well, 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.880 I think you know, he spoke last week, you know, 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.880 in one of these type of conferences, and he was 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.880 very clear. In fact, it was covered by all of 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.200 the newspapers the following day, but it was very clear 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:53.080 that he told Sam Donald's parents, I'm gonna get Sam protected. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.600 He's not going to be a sitting duck back there. 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.040 And I think he did a lot free agency, as 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.440 we all know right now, but I think he has 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.680 a lot more to do. And I think he comes 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.840 from really two organizations. He's spent a year in Chicago, 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.040 but two organizations at Baltimore in Philadelphia where he's been 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.960 a big part of winning Super Bowls. And in both 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.600 those teams, they had tremendous depth on the on the 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.160 offensive line. They invested in the offensive line, they spent 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:23.440 resources on the offensive line. When they lost one player, 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.680 they were replaced by a player of almost near quality. 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.520 And I think you know, Joe's looking at this draft 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:33.520 and there's some top end offensive tackles and offensive linemen 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.040 in this draft, and I think it's gonna be hard 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:40.200 for Joe to ignore, regardless of what he has already 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:44.400 signed both last year and this year in free agency. Brian, 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.280 you talked about depth when you look at this draft 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.000 and some of the positions that the Jets might need 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.640 to fill holes in what are going to be some 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.680 of the most valuable in deep positions for the Jets 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.400 to take a look at, and maybe some of the 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.520 least valuable and the least amount of depth that they 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.280 don't really need to take a look at right away. Well, 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.040 I don't think there's a lot of depth of cornerback 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.560 in this draft. Top end cornerbacks, you know, guys that 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:10.200 come in and make Pro Bowls right away, like Marshawn Lattimore. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:15.560 Right I mean, there's there's maybe two, possibly three uh 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.080 in Acuda out of Ohio state, uh C. J Henderson 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.160 out of Florida, and you know Jalen Johnson right now 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.160 out of Utah. I mean, there's maybe three guys that 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.240 could go in the first round. That's probably as few 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:31.919 as we have seen in a long long time. And 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.560 so I think if you want to try to get 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.240 one of those players right now, you're gonna have to 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:40.320 spend a top flight first round pick to get them. Um. Now, 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:45.240 they could drop depending on how the quarterbacks go. Uh, 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.879 you know, how a couple of the top end defensive 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.000 players go, and how some of these top end offensive 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.359 tackles going. We can see those guys pushing maybe some 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.719 of the corners down, but corners, there's not a lot 0:17:56.760 --> 0:18:00.119 of depth. There's tremendous depth, and not just depth, but 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.920 a variety of depth at wide receiver, maybe as wide 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.480 a variety and is deep a variety as we have 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:09.640 ever seen. If you want, you know, if you want 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:14.440 slot wide receivers, small, shifty, fast, quick, they have those. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.920 If you want big, you know, big game changing type 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.600 wide receivers on the outside, we have those. If you 0:18:20.640 --> 0:18:23.600 want a guy like you know, Henry Ruggs, that's you know, 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.719 as fast as Tyreek Hill, if not faster, game changer 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:30.080 with one touch, there's those type of players. It's as 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.199 deep a wide receiver draft as we have seen. Now. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.240 There are some guys at the very top end of 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.520 this that are better than others, but it's a very 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.359 deep draft and wide receiver. It's it's a good draft 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.720 for offensive tackles in the first round. It's not a 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.280 great draft for offensive lineman. If you're looking for interior 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:51.439 offensive lineman. Um. You know, in the middle rounds, there 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.280 is not allow of depth there right now, so I 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:59.000 mean wide receiver, corner or shortage. Um. There's some great 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:03.199 defensive tackles in this draft, top end defensive tackles, and 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:08.879 there's three linebackers that are really interesting to study and 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.959 watch and all the different things that they could do 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.320 that could be easy first round picks. Bran, you already 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.800 mentioned free agency. We know that Joe Douglas made a 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:21.520 couple of moves to add more players on the offensive line. 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.160 When you look at the draft, do you believe that 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.720 he could still add pieces on the offensive line or 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:31.520 is it more of a free agency move from here now? 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.480 I think free agency, you know, I think if they 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.320 you know, if they lined up and played week one tomorrow, 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:40.679 they can line up and play right now. But I 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:44.159 think he feels, you know, he has coached Andy, but 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.399 he's been around, and he's been around two Hall of 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:50.679 Fame left tackles, you know, and Uh in Baltimore and 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:55.960 Jason Peterson in Philadelphia. And so that's his standard is 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.639 to have a Hall of Fame left tackle. Now, George 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.240 pant will provide um. You know, he's still very young, 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.960 he's still raw to a degree, but he's played a 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.159 lot of games and he's played well. Played well against 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:13.879 Cleveland last year. Um did very very well against some 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:18.639 you know, really marquee players there. But I think you know, 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.040 when Joe looks at an offensive line, he's looking at 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:26.399 anchoring it with a near or Hall of Fame type player. 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.320 And there might be I mean, you can't predict those 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:32.439 kind of things before the draft, but there might be 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:35.480 those level of players in this draft, and if Joe 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.119