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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: That is right. It is fn A on FSR. Merry Christmas,

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Speaker 2: Happy holidays to you guys listening around the United States

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Speaker 2: of America, maybe across the world. There, Adam Austlin at

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Speaker 2: K Big. Yeah, at K FIG one is where you

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Speaker 2: can find me. A way, we're big in Bangladesh. I

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Speaker 2: you on next, Adam is that follow Adam A That's right, India?

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Speaker 3: Gonna be with you guys coming up later this hour.

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Speaker 3: We got some geek news.

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Speaker 2: Is our programming and even allowed there and whatever it's

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Speaker 2: called now.

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Speaker 3: Probably not, but this video game definitely allowed there because

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Speaker 3: it's not good?

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Speaker 2: Oh is it?

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Speaker 3: It's our favorite video game and it had a huge

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Speaker 3: anniversary just last week. We missed it because I had

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Speaker 3: to give out the Christmas movies, Adam's twelve alternative movies

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Speaker 3: Films of Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but we're gonna get back to it. So the

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Speaker 2: anniversary of shaq Fu, that's incredible. I you know, I

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Speaker 2: barely missed it.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Yes, no one's played that game. Oh, no, one

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Speaker 3: knows about that game, even with Michael Jordan Windy City

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Speaker 3: whatever game like. I don't remember that either, I remember.

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Speaker 2: I do remember Charles Barkley's shut up in Jam. That

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Speaker 2: was a good one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that that was quality. That was his version

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Speaker 3: of NBA Jam. It wasn't too bad. It felt like

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Speaker 3: more of maybe like a one on one type of game.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember, yep. And then if you knocked the

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Speaker 2: ball away, he would do the yell at you and say,

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Speaker 2: go get the damn ball. Now.

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Speaker 3: Is it true that if you lost, you actually had

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Speaker 3: to make a trip to San Antonio?

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Speaker 2: No big old women down there? Is that true? I

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Speaker 2: don't believe. So, Okay, maybe there was a cheat code

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Speaker 3: I thought that they held a big tournament for that

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Speaker 3: game somewhere and they sent all the losers to San Antonio.

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Speaker 2: You needed the old game genie to make that one up,

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Speaker 2: I guess. But they do have some.

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Speaker 3: Big old ones, all right. So we do have some

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Speaker 3: geek news with a video game fact. Second hour of

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Speaker 3: the show though, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Petros Papadaka's he has been very outspoken about the ending,

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Speaker 2: or at least I don't when you say it's on

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Speaker 2: hiatus at this point in time for at the very

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Speaker 2: least for the next five years. We are not gonna

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Speaker 2: have USC and Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were on abroad right. Sorry, my Ross Galer

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Speaker 2: impression very extended break. Unfortunately, a lot of people are

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Speaker 2: and you and USC and Notre Dame lent and a

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Speaker 2: lot of fingers being pointed. What is like the Spider

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Speaker 2: there's Notre Dame people in USC, people pointing at each

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Speaker 2: other blaming each other. Who is to blame? Petrols Papaekas

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Speaker 2: will let us know, and he'll also talk about the

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Speaker 2: big hire of Kyle Whittingham going to the University of

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Speaker 2: Michigan that was made official about an hour or so ago.

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Speaker 3: Okay. Also in the second hour, we will start the

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Speaker 3: NFL six pack, which we'll finish by the third hour, hopefully, hopefully,

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Speaker 3: And then in the third hour we'll talk a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bowl season is here. If you hadn't noticed outside

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Speaker 2: ourselves on the colle Wittingham higher at Michigan, who sends

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Speaker 2: seemingly just like Penn State, finding ways to fail up

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Speaker 2: utter o miitigated disasters heading into it. So we'll get

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Speaker 3: All right, In first off, let's talk about what happened

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Speaker 3: yesterday time. That's wrong. My buddy who's listening out in

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Speaker 3: Know Tupac shook Courd never talked about Biggie, you know.

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Speaker 3: Christmas Day it's turned into a little i don't know,

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Speaker 2: Many people still contend that that's when the NBA should

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Speaker 3: Well, they might be right. Yeah, I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the dog days of summer in baseball. Why would you

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Speaker 3: not do that? But they don't want to do that

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Speaker 2: Oh that's cool, just keep playing games on nobody's watching

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Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people are saying that, and I

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Speaker 3: think Charles Barkley mentioned this. Roger Goodell is coming for

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Speaker 3: Adam Silver's chain evening.

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Speaker 2: Come wait, coming for it. He's got in his head,

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Speaker 2: snatched it, he handed it back to him, patted him

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Speaker 2: NFL has told the NBA, we don't give a damn

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Speaker 2: about you or any day that you planned to claim

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Speaker 2: it is now ours Christmas Day, that's ours. If we

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Speaker 2: wanted to play on Mlkday, we could and it will

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Speaker 2: be ours mine, my mind mind. That is the NFL.

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Speaker 3: You're telling me, what was the game Mafia Wars where

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Speaker 3: you take over different territories that was played on Facebook

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Speaker 2: Yeah? That, or I would say Grand Theft thought o

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Speaker 2: San Andreas Drea's where you at the different street games

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Speaker 3: They're encroaching on the NBA's territory thousand percent.

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Speaker 2: Well, didn't Lebron say this was this last year or

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Speaker 2: Is this the Christmas Day? Is the NBA's day. We

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Speaker 3: He said that last season after I believe a really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think theb is getting it back now.

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Speaker 2: I will say this, Adam. So here's hell's what I say,

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Speaker 2: any redeeming qualities to watch that game. Whereas if you have,

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Speaker 2: individual performances from Donovan Mitchell and Jalen Brunton, a good

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Speaker 2: and in nuanced situation like that, I would much rather

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Speaker 2: the NFL, which, yes, was I guess somewhat entertaining competitive.

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Speaker 3: To it, the Commander's covered Come on, didn't.

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Speaker 2: They they did. Did you have that two on two

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get to that now. Some people say that

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, Adam. The numbers bear that out. They

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Speaker 2: they sure do NBA Finals. You know, their highest rated

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Speaker 3: If even that get Fred Rogan on the line, Raidings

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Speaker 3: Rogan knows all.

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Speaker 2: A random Thursday night game between the Jaguars and your

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Speaker 3: It goes back to something we talk about all the time.

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Speaker 3: First of all, people want the NBA to shorten their season.

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Speaker 3: They're not going happening. They started talking about this with baseball,

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Speaker 3: playing more often. Now. I do think there's something to that,

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Speaker 3: But it still comes down to the NFL games are

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Speaker 3: all times. When the NBA. I think I saw Tony

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Speaker 3: Bruno take a shot at it Yesterday's about.

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Speaker 2: The end, you know, sports radio legend Tony Bruno.

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Speaker 3: I think I have the actual tweet from him, okay,

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Speaker 3: And he did say he didn't want to play on

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Speaker 3: Christmas recently, he'd rather be home with the family. He's

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Speaker 3: never had a Christmas, Tony Bruno said.

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Speaker 4: To be fair to the NBA, and King James I

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Speaker 4: two had zero interest in watching meaningless garbage games on

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Speaker 4: Christmas Day.

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Speaker 3: All right, I would say there were some really good

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Speaker 3: games on Christmas Day. I don't think it was garbage

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Speaker 2: I mean that Nightcap, I mean Nicola jokicch my god,

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Speaker 2: one of the great performances in NBA history.

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Speaker 3: What are we talking about? This is to drink by

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Speaker 3: some metrics, the seventh greatest game ever played efficiency wise

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Speaker 3: raptor Lebron stats. You know the advanced analytics stuff out there.

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Speaker 2: Oh you can count, good for you.

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Speaker 3: You got to count to be able to understand some

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Speaker 2: Now, here's the issue you run into. Adam so I

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Speaker 3: Here's what I'm going to say to that. In the

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Speaker 2: Outside of that.

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Speaker 2: I could well look the leagues, do I look major

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. The NBA just signed an

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Speaker 3: why you have games on Prime and games back on NBC.

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Speaker 3: Adam Silver and the NBA are not on life support.

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Speaker 3: They're not going anywhere anytime soon. Even if the NFL

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Speaker 3: It's not going anywhere. But some people try to make

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Speaker 3: All these three pointers? We can't make it anymore. It's

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the issue too, because the problem is you're

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Speaker 3: We talked about this a good three months ago, saying

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Speaker 3: They're not going after Major League Baseball. They're going after

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Speaker 2: Next. Was that a letter that Roger Goodell sent internally

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Speaker 3: I think so maybe that's what.

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Speaker 2: I think. Roger Goodell set that email to somebody league

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Speaker 3: The NFL had bigger fish to fry, And you're completely right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so which time are you talking about? Yeah? So

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Speaker 2: I think it's utterly ridiculous. People talk. Look, and I

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Speaker 2: because again, it's live sports that's always going to be

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Speaker 2: never going to go away. Yes, it'll never compare to

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Speaker 3: I think when you bring up the stuff in the

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell everybody in my politics right now by

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Speaker 2: So and having this conversation, does the NBA really need

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, if you can make tweaks that don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's helped.

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Speaker 3: It's helped, But I think they can still take it

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Speaker 3: All you're doing is competing with baseball at that time

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Speaker 2: All right, well tell me that, leam Mark. I know

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Speaker 2: by getting to the n season tournament final, has that

437
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Speaker 2: actually curbed load management for guys who are not actually hurt.

438
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Speaker 2: It seemed like to me last season there are more

439
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 2: guys who were out when they did miss games. It

440
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 2: was more due to legitimate injuries than ah, this guy's

441
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Speaker 2: taking a night off because you know he's resting a

442
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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 3: The problem is they just defined the injury differently, Like

444
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 3: what what does it mean to be actually heard? Guys

445
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 3: are heard all the time. There's always a reason that

446
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,679
Speaker 3: you could sit out a game. For the most part,

447
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 3: it's hard to judge, Like judging in somebody's heart. I

448
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know what's in there. I don't

449
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 3: know how they really feel about something. I don't know

450
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Speaker 3: how their body really feels right now.

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Speaker 2: I just remember there was a lot of star players

452
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Speaker 2: last year who played a crap ton of games, and

453
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Speaker 2: especially going into the postseason. I remember making this point, like,

454
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Speaker 2: going into the postseason last year, it was probably the

455
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Speaker 2: healthiest that the sport has been in terms of having

456
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Speaker 2: their star players all healthy and on display when the

457
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Speaker 2: playoffs began, and that I believe has been an anomaly

458
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Speaker 2: for the NBA the last five to seven years.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, if that was the case, it backfired as

460
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Speaker 3: soon as the playoffs started because Dame goes out Haliburton

461
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:12,719
Speaker 3: eventually Jason Tatum and Giannis Adenakompo. So you want to

462
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 3: have your best guys in the marquee spotlight when it

463
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Speaker 3: matters most. And if that means you give more days

464
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Speaker 3: off between games, you don't take away the eighty two games,

465
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Speaker 3: you just separate them and spread them out a little

466
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Speaker 3: bit more. I think for the betterment of the league,

467
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Speaker 3: that is something that needs to be considered.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, sefn A on FSR here on Fox

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Speaker 3: I hope Joe Klatt doesn't do one. That would be rough.

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Speaker 2: Yoo.

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Speaker 3: All right, coming up later this very hour, we got

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Speaker 3: geek news, some video game news, a video game fact

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Speaker 3: just is about to make us feel really really old, Kevin,

515
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Speaker 3: But are there a couple teams in the NFL they're

516
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Speaker 3: getting a little long in the tooth themselves. The Chiefs

517
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Speaker 3: eliminated from the playoffs for the first time since nineteen

518
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Speaker 3: eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: Not quite, not quite.

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Speaker 3: It's been a it's been a long time. We were

521
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: talking about coming into the season. Can they just still

522
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Speaker 3: win the division? Well most of us didn't think. Okay,

523
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 3: if they slipped from the division, though, they will still

524
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Speaker 3: be a wild card team. We're not even looking at

525
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: that now. And now this entire era is up in

526
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Speaker 3: the air to some degree on what happens next with

527
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Speaker 3: an ACL for ma homes. How long is Andy reiging

528
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Speaker 3: to coach? Are we looking at the window being shut

529
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Speaker 3: for this era of the Chiefs? I have to ask you, kelevin.

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Speaker 2: Quiz hot shot, No one of the most ridiculous things

531
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Speaker 2: I've ever heard. Now, Look, I agree, I know understand

532
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: that Travis Kelcey is up there in age. This could

533
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Speaker 2: potentially be his last season. He hasn't been He wasn't

534
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Speaker 2: the most productive last year, by the way, and they

535
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Speaker 2: made it to a super Bowl. He's been slowing down

536
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 2: these last couple of seasons. Andy Reid is getting up

537
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 2: there in age. That's one thing that you obviously cannot

538
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: deny at this point in time. But you still have

539
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. He is still I think the best quarterback

540
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: in the NFL, despite not having the greatest weapons to

541
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: work with. The NaCl injury is certain serious, but it's

542
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: not something that he can can't come back from at

543
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Speaker 2: as a quarterback. He's not an NBA player out there

544
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: jumping above the rim. So that's why his recovery period

545
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Speaker 2: and people are believing he's potentially going to be able

546
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Speaker 2: to make it back for Opening Day next year. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not as dooman gloom on the chances City Chiefs

548
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Speaker 2: dynasty being over. To be honest with you, they still

549
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Speaker 2: have Patrick Mahomes. I don't think Andy Reid has any

550
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Speaker 2: designs of slowing it down. Are they going to have

551
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Speaker 2: to do some retooling. Of course, the Patriots has a

552
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Speaker 2: retool around Tom Brady for twenty years, So I don't

553
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: think this is totally This is totally a disaster that

554
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Speaker 2: needs to be torn down. Patrick Mahomes is not done.

555
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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are not done. The idea that their dynasty

556
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: or their reign of terror in the NFL is over,

557
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: they're no longer going to be able to compete for championships,

558
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Speaker 2: I think is a ridiculous notion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the reports of their demise will likely be greatly

560
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Speaker 3: exaggerated because Mahomes is still too young to give up on.

561
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Speaker 3: He's twenty nine years of age.

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Speaker 2: Now you can argue he's not even in his prime yet, Adam,

563
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Speaker 2: he's not thirty.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what makes the last couple of years though

565
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Speaker 3: a little bit confounding. And we were talking about this

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Speaker 3: with Greg coast Cell and where's the slippage with Patrick

567
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: Mahomes And he talked about their offense and how off

568
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: script it is all the time, and it's hard to

569
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Speaker 3: live like that, consistently weak to weak and maybe this

570
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 3: is my own editorial or opinion teams have caught up

571
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Speaker 3: with them a little bit in those areas, and the

572
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Speaker 3: improvisation stuff isn't working as well as it used to,

573
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Speaker 3: and maybe they need a little bit more of a

574
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Speaker 3: system or some guardrails around them to not have to

575
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Speaker 3: just improvise so much, because he won't be able to

576
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Speaker 3: if he doesn't respond from the ACL and likely he's

577
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Speaker 3: not going to be able to run as fast as

578
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Speaker 3: he used to. Maybe he'll be close, but his legs

579
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Speaker 3: do matter, But it's still about the arm with him

580
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Speaker 3: and throwing seventy yard bombs. We just see so much

581
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Speaker 3: less of that the last couple of years, and it's

582
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a head scratcher as to why.

583
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Speaker 3: I think some of it can be accounted for with

584
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Speaker 3: the talent around him, But I don't think that's everything

585
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Speaker 3: that's going on with Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a big part of it. Well, one

587
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: they got rid of Tyree, whatch you can argue probably

588
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: was in the worst move. The amount of money he

589
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: was asking for is still needed needing to field the team,

590
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: and it certainly didn't hurt him. They've won a championship

591
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: since then, they've gone to Super Bowls without Tyreek killing

592
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: the mix. So I would argue the vertical part of

593
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: their passing game really hasn't been a factor since he left.

594
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: Being able to check down underneath the Travis Kelsey, Patrick

595
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: Mahomes being able to make plays with his legs, they've

596
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: been able to thrive playing that way. Now, maybe you

597
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: can argue that that's a high wire act and Pat

598
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: Mahomes is not going to be able to run for

599
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: his life his entire career. He's going to need help.

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Speaker 2: And this is something this goes back to Philadelphia, the

601
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: Philadelphia days for Andy Reid. We're talking about not putting

602
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 2: enough emphasis on the run game and putting too much

603
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: on the shoulders of a Donovan McNabb or Michael Vick

604
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: or whoever your quarterback is. As great as Patrick Mahomes is,

605
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: he's not Superman. He needs a little bit of help.

606
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: Look what the Buffalo Bills have done the last couple

607
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 2: of years with James Cook and being able to put

608
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: a running game around Josh Shallen. Just being able to

609
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: run the game ball a little bit. I think we'll

610
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: be able to open up so many things for the

611
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs pass offense, and for whatever reason, they've just been

612
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: reluctant to do it. They don't have an impact player

613
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: in the backfield, and I think more than anything, that's

614
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 2: probably the biggest issue that they're gonna address here in

615
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: the offseason. Let's help Patrick Mahomes out the best way

616
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: we possibly can by at least trying to run the ball.

617
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: You don't have to run the ball for one hundred

618
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: and fifty yards a game, but just be respectable. Because

619
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: rerec Oselli tell us this too, Teams don't even respect

620
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: their run game. They just don't expect the Chiefs to

621
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: do anything on their run game, but they don't expect

622
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Speaker 2: them to make any plays.

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Speaker 3: They've gotten probably over confident and a little bit, I

624
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: don't know, under talented in their skill positions. They're still

625
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: trying the same stuff they used to do with Tyreek

626
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 3: or when they were more talented, or Travis Kelsey hadn't

627
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: lost a good three steps at this point, and that's

628
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: not gonna happen. So maybe you do need to open

629
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: up a different element to this offense, and that's how

630
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: you get more longevity out of Patrick Mahomes or get

631
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: him to enter a new phase of his prime here,

632
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: which is what everybody wants to see because looking at

633
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Speaker 3: just coming into this season where the numbers were last year, say,

634
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Speaker 3: why do you have such a down season?

635
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Speaker 2: Now?

636
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Speaker 3: They still made it to the Super Bowl and they

637
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 3: got blown out against the Eagles, and they still were

638
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: gritty and found ways to win. And it's hard to

639
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: dethrone champs like that and kill an era, but it

640
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 3: looked like the Chargers were able to do that this year,

641
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: at least in taking them out when their backs were

642
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: against the wall, which we want to see. How are

643
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: the Kannasite Chiefs gonna play when everything is on the line,

644
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: when it is a playoff game basically? And they lost,

645
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: And I know Mahomes got hurt, but I think they

646
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: were losing that game anyways.

647
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, they were.

648
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 3: Some of the aura and just the mystique of this

649
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: Kansas City Chief's dynasty. The shine is off a little bit,

650
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: the bloom is off the rows a little bit. They're

651
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 3: going to have to prove things going forward instead of

652
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: proving that they can't do it anymore. I believe it

653
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: when I see it. When somebody finally takes them out, Well,

654
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: that has happened. Now, it's can they regain or recapture

655
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: their previous form?

656
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Speaker 2: Well, seeing that and this is something I brought up

657
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: maybe two or three weeks ago and saying the best

658
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: thing that it could probably happen for the Kansas City Chiefs.

659
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna act like this is an original idea.

660
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: I believe our guy Mike Sander wrote about this. Maybe

661
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 2: then missing the playoffs is the best thing that can

662
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: happen to them because a lot of times, making the playoffs,

663
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: even making a deep when it go to the division around,

664
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Speaker 2: going to the conference title game and losing kind of

665
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: mask some of the bigger issues you might be having.

666
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: You might be able to convince yourself, ah, you know,

667
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: make a play here, make a play there, or right

668
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: back in the super Bowl, it's not that big of

669
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: a deal. The fact that you missed the postseason and

670
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: you have all these glaring issues, the offensive line not

671
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: being able to run the ball, You've had some slippage

672
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: on defense. You know, all of this comes to a

673
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: head and you say, you missed the playoffs and now

674
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: we need to figure out how we need to retool

675
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: and remake this thing so we can get back to

676
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: doing that again. So I think the best thing that

677
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: could happen for Kansas City is maybe a one year

678
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: restpit of not making the postseason, so they can actually

679
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: sit back and look at their flaws more deeply and

680
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: determine how they can turn this thing back around.

681
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Speaker 3: Well, I think those years do add up. We've seen

682
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: it with dynasties in the past where the Spurs never

683
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: went back to back, right, which is interesting. They won

684
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: five over god how many years, nineteen ninety nine to

685
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: the last one being in twenty fourteen, so only like

686
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: a fifteen year period they won five, but they didn't

687
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: go back to back. But their stars were still great

688
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: when they had to be later on in their careers,

689
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: and maybe they saved a little bit of tread on

690
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: the tires because they didn't always make deep playoff runs.

691
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: Now they were still getting the playoffs though every season,

692
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: I think twenty two years straight. It was the all

693
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: time record with San Antonio, but you lose to Memphis

694
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: in the first round like they did that one season

695
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: with Zebo and Marcasol going off. They had some hiccups

696
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 3: here and there, and then I think about the Lakers

697
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: when they three pe'd and then that fourth year they

698
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: lost to San Antonio in two thousand and three and

699
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: Kevin Willis had that put back dunk at Staples Center,

700
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: and it was really the exclamation point, like this dynasty

701
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: is over.

702
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Willis it was about five thousand years old at

703
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: that point in his career.

704
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: Two oh yeah, he still was able to get up

705
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: somehow for that dunk. He wanted some of that. But

706
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 3: they then re loaded. In fact, it was all branded

707
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: as Lakers reloaded, I think, mirroring the Matrix reloaded coming out,

708
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 3: and they brought in two old guys in Gary Payton

709
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: and Carl Malone. They get back to the finals, they

710
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: get run by Detroit. A lot of that was because

711
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: they weren't going to shack enough. Kobe probably took fifty

712
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: more shots than he needed to in that series.

713
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: I mean, Karl Malone got hurt, was a shell of

714
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: himself alone got hurt.

715
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Speaker 3: But it felt like, you know, this is the end,

716
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: and now they have to find a different way to win.

717
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 3: Shaka ends up getting moved like this is going to

718
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: be while you still have your core piece in Patrick

719
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: Mahomes the parallel to Kobe here, like how you build

720
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: around him moving forward, the team could look drastically different.

721
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it can still compete. And now look at our guy,

722
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: Big Lou who just hit us up at k FIG

723
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: one and that follow out of may own X. He says,

724
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: you know, when does the narrative of quote, he doesn't

725
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: have weapons and talent. That's why the team isn't winning.

726
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: Stop when talking about superstar quarterbacks. I think that's the

727
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: most important thing though, because ultimately, if they didn't have

728
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, especially in these last couple of years, Adams Adam,

729
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: where would they be? I think they even a playoff team?

730
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: Maybe they I mean, same thing. Go back to Aaron

731
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: Rodgers in Green Bay, same situation, how phenomenal he was

732
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: year in and year out, and a lot of times

733
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: he complained about not having requisite weapons, not having a

734
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: run game, the defense having slippage, and Aaron Rodgers doing

735
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: everything in his power and them coming up short rarely

736
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 2: because of him. It was because of the infrastructure around him.

737
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 2: I do think Big Lou, with all due respect, that

738
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: has a lot to do with it.

739
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: I think our good Irish friend Barry mccachinor points this

740
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: out with the stat saying that the last four games

741
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: the Chiefs have played without Patrick Mahomes. So this is

742
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: over a period of two or three years. You know,

743
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: they have scored one touchdown on offense in those four games,

744
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 3: So it says a lot he is a one man

745
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: wrecking crew. You may think, oh, Josh Allen is that guy?

746
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: Now?

747
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is still that guy. Maybe not to the

748
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: extent he was, but there's still something to that. So

749
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: they take a step back, They get to take in

750
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 3: the inventory, They get arrest, and they get to figure

751
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: out how do they conquer, whether or not there's a

752
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: new NFL going on, or how do we just become

753
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: the best versions of ourselves. Now entering into twenty twenty six,

754
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: what do the Chiefs look like? I think it's gonna

755
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 3: be really fascinating to watch what they build.

756
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: Well, just know that there was a certain point in

757
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: time where Tom Brady and Bill Belichick Patriots went a

758
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 2: long stretch of time without winning a Super Bowl before

759
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: they circle back and ended up winning a couple of

760
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: more before their dynasty ended.

761
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: They went ten years, and a lot of people think

762
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: it could be the same thing with the Chiefs. I

763
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 3: don't know about that, but I expect them and Patrick

764
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: Mahomes to contend again, probably win one. Remember when people

765
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 3: used to say.

766
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Speaker 4: Over under on Tiger Woods winning one more Masters or

767
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 4: one more.

768
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I think he's probably got one

769
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 3: more in him.

770
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Speaker 2: I would say it's probably. I will take the odds

771
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: on them winning one more championship before Patrick Mahomes his

772
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: career is all said and done. Something I'm excited about

773
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: is coming up next, and that's Geek News and that

774
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: is a legendary video game anniversary, Adam.

775
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: It's very personal to us and it's gonna warm your

776
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: heart during the holidays.

777
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 2: Now, Kevin, so looking forward to talking about Paul coming

778
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: up next, man.

779
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 3: Or rip your heart out with how violent this game is.

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Speaker 3: It's fn A on FSR.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham going to Michigan and the and of usc Notre.

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795
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798
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Speaker 4: fabs all day.

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Speaker 3: Just keep your power close up her passion race kenmen.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if the FSR listeners have noticed, but

801
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: we don't make a lot of mistakes around here. Okay,

802
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 3: I've made a huge mistake, but we did last week.

803
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 3: One was made by me in Geek News. I had

804
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: to make a decision. It was like Sophie's choice between

805
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: releasing Adam's twelve Alternative Films of Christmas or talking about

806
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Speaker 3: a video game anniversary for a game that just turned

807
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: its Jesus Age of thirty three. Now, we do have

808
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: a proclivity for side scrolling brawlers on this show, no doubt.

809
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: From Double Dragon to the New Shredders or Va Ninja

810
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: Turtles game that I enjoyed. I played most of them.

811
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: We love them. Every kid remembers where they were when

812
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: they picked up that bat and Double Dragon and swung

813
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: it through those prostitutes in the purple jumpsuits trying to

814
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: whip you like a horse. Yeah, that's where the beat

815
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: them up genre took root in me.

816
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: Well, streets of rage. I mean, come on, you get

817
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: skate out there.

818
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: Oh, we'll get to it. I just I couldn't wait

819
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 3: to attack those toots. Huh, there's nothing kinky about it.

820
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: I was just trying to get my darling Marion back

821
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: from the Shadow Warriors who punched her in the gut

822
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: right out in front of my garage. That's how Double

823
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: Dragon starts. It just punch to the gut to the

824
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: girl throws them over her shoulder. They walk off, the batties,

825
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: the garage door opens. You come after them.

826
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Speaker 2: Lest we forget battletoes Double Dragon, of course, okay, very good,

827
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: an epic mashup side scroller.

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Speaker 3: The first video game I had was Double Dragon, not

829
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: on any S or Genesis or an arcade machine, and

830
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: I had the Tiger Electronics handheld LCD with those etches

831
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: sketch graphics. I got it in my stocking, probably in

832
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: I don't know, nineteen ninety, nineteen eighty nine, something like that.

833
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: But others might have gotten their first taste of the

834
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 3: beat them up genre by playing The Simpsons or Ninja Turtles,

835
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: or X Men or a final No Colossus was ripped.

836
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: Well, the blob was in the X Men's side scroller

837
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: in the Arcade, so there's that good call.

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00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: What about Predator Alien versus Predator final fight, just to

839
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: name a few.

840
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: Fight was a great one.

841
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 3: Some of those were ported to our home console systems,

842
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: but they weren't always as true to the source material

843
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: of the arcade machine that we pumped all those quarters

844
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 3: into faster and the hookers pumped their fists with a

845
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 3: good lashing with their whips on us. Actually, I looked

846
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 3: it up, and those batties, by the way, the Purple

847
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: outfit girls in Double Dragon with w they were not hookers,

848
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: Oh they weren't. Never judge a book by its cover

849
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: or a hooker by her cover or how little she

850
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: was covered. The character had a name, and his name

851
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: was Linda, Linda Lash because Linda, I swear to you,

852
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 3: so are you sure she wasn't atitude They called her

853
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 3: a thug, a thug, not atitute a thug. But Linda

854
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 3: was in the original Double Dragon, which was poured onto

855
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: the nees, but it was just a one player game,

856
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: same with the original Final Fight on SNS. We were

857
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: missing the two player co op action that gave us

858
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: that arcade feel we were craving. But Streets of Rage

859
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: completely satiated us in ways. And with those big ass turkeys,

860
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 3: we'd eat to replenish our health bars too. Then the

861
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: sequel came out December twentieth. Oh my god, that's way

862
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: too good. December twentieth of nineteen ninety two, thirty three

863
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: years ago. A few days ago this past week, Street

864
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Speaker 3: Rage two came out, a game Kevin and I actually

865
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Speaker 3: bonded on because not everybody knows about it.

866
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Speaker 2: No that indy. Oh it was but one of the

867
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Speaker 2: great games of all time, without question.

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Speaker 3: Because it was for the Sega Genesis and it came

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Speaker 3: out probably later in its lifespan.

870
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so.

871
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah to me, I would categorize it as the greatest

872
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 3: sixteen bit side scrolling beat him Up ever like. It

873
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: perfected the blend of combos and the different characters and

874
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: what they could do, and the plot where Skates trying

875
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: to save the original Black Adam, who was in the

876
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: first Streets of Rage that's his brother. The level design,

877
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 3: the music you're hearing right now, this is Streets Ranged two.

878
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: It was a step up in every way from the

879
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 3: first game.

880
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: That's right. When I say grass hopa you know what

881
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: that means. No, I'm not talking about the karate kid

882
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: or anything.

883
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: That's my guy Axel.

884
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: Yes, that was more of a skate guy personally, a

885
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: guy you can kick somebody's ass on rollerblades. That's the

886
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: next level for me.

887
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: Well, Streets Range two dropped hard thirty three years ago.

888
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: Last week, this is FNA on FSR.

889
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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

890
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,360
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891
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 2: Kevin Figures, Adam alson with you on Fox Sports Radio.

892
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893
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894
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Speaker 2: with us here on.

895
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Speaker 3: The show coming up this very hour pick trying to

896
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Speaker 3: Bite a real show. Yeah, the show that our show

897
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Speaker 3: is based off of in a spinoff type of way.

898
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Speaker 3: Petros Papadakis from The Petros and Money Show will be here.

899
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: He's a Fox analyst on college football and he's going

900
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: to make some interesting claims about what happened between USC

901
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: and Notre Dame this week and why the rivalry has

902
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 3: been put on pause at least for now.

903
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll get into that coming up in the

904
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: next segment. By the way, I met you guys can

905
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: hit us up on X. We got to have a

906
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: couple of messages that have come in. Your guy Gunner Thomas,

907
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: your Panther fan says it's time for the Panthers to

908
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: take over the NFL. Casey is done, so looking forward

909
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: to that, looking forward to that Panther domination coming up here, Adam,

910
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: As they were on the verge of clinching the NFC South,

911
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: of course.

912
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: Win a playoff game, make.

913
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: The get into the playoffs first.

914
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: I don't think well, more on that a little bit.

915
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sure we'll get it all. What's far from

916
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: a sure thing. We'll talk about that a little bit later.

917
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: And Big Lou checks in again simply hashtags Detroit hashtag

918
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,959
Speaker 2: Source Awards. Now, I know exactly what you're alluding to

919
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: to that Source award exactly, but in what context are

920
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: you talking about there, Big Lou.

921
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's just trying to washing the Diddy doc doing

922
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: some East coast.

923
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: West coast battling going on Big Lou. What's going on? Man?

924
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: You gotta give me a little bit more context. We'll

925
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: talk about it coming up on the show.

926
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: All right, let's do it. It is week seventeen, right,

927
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 3: NFL six pack?

928
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: Mark time for the NFL six pack?

929
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: What are we starting with, Kevin?

930
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: Start with the hot seat heat check the coach or

931
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: player under the most pressure this coming weekend? Do you

932
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 2: want to start? Do you want me to start?

933
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 3: Mark?

934
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: Make heat check?

935
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: I need to hear from Bob Smith's Will we start

936
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: the right way? Make an official get things starting for us?

937
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 2: Kevin? All right, well, I'm gonna go with the Buffalo

938
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 2: Bills taking on the Philadelphia Eagles. We talked about the

939
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: Bills in their title window previously in the show. We

940
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 2: were gonna get to it earlier in the show this tonight,

941
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: but we weren't able to get to that. But talking

942
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 2: about them and the fact that the field has kind

943
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: of opened up because a lot of the Beasts of

944
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: the AFC are kind of out of the way at

945
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: this point in time. We talked about Patrick Mahomes and

946
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are out of it. Most likely La Mar

947
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens are out of it, and

948
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 2: even if they find a way to make it in,

949
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: I don't think they really pose that much of a threat. No,

950
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, there's gonna be some new blood in the

951
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: AFC save for the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen. Now

952
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 2: you look at the fact that they're playing the Super

953
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: Bowl champions coming up on Sunday, And yes, the Eagles

954
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: have not played super well this season, but their offensive

955
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: output has actually improved recently. They've run for over one

956
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty yards the last couple of games, the

957
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: last three games. As a matter of fact, the last

958
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: two games they ran for over one hundred and eighty yards.

959
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: Did they win those games?

960
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: Kevin? The last two?

961
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: This what a concept. Run the ball, win the game.

962
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: Funny how that works. I think we talked about that

963
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 2: with Greg Hosel. So now, the problem Adam is stopping

964
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: the run of has been Buffalo's achilles heel all season long.

965
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: But if you do have designs of winning a championship

966
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: and taking advantage of this year's wide open field, you're

967
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: gonna have to be able to slow down teams in

968
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 2: the AFC like the Chargers, like Jacksonville who actually can't

969
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: run the ball a little bit. So I think for

970
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: Buffalo going into this game, it's really gonna be a

971
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: bit of a litman test, litmus test, I should say,

972
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: to see what they could potentially expect to see in

973
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: the postseason. And to be honest, you know, I came

974
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: into this weekend thinking that if Green Bay didn't make

975
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: the playoffs that Matt Lafleur could possibly be on the

976
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: hot seat, even though I don't think he should be.

977
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: I think this postseason run for the Bills can loom

978
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: large for Sean McDermott's future in Buffalo, the leaders you know,

979
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: of those great kingdoms that all have all gone down. Yes,

980
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: the Bills have their shareff deficiencies this season, but it

981
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 2: hasn't stopped them from beating some of the best teams

982
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: on their schedule Patriots, Steelers, Chiefs, Buccaneers, beating all of them.

983
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: If they don't get it done this postseason, then when

984
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: will they. I think the pressure is squarely on mcdermoh

985
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: right now. Not necessarily in this particular game against the Eagles,

986
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: although I do think it's important, but for how the

987
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: Bills perform in the postseason as a whole coming up.

988
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: I don't think it's or of probably to say if

989
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 2: the Bills don't make it to the Super Bowl, they

990
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: could potentially be looking for a new head coach in

991
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: the next month. You can argue whether or not that's

992
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: fair at them, Yes, because you can mention McDermot has

993
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: led them to the playoffs in eight of his nine

994
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 2: seasons as head coach. They've made it to the conference

995
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: championship game a couple of times. The first time they

996
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: made it to the conference title game, you had that

997
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: wild kickoff situation against Kansas City, just a fluky play

998
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: that went against them at that point in time. That

999
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: was unfortunate, But we know how knee jerk fans are,

1000
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: and a lot of times that trickles up to ownership

1001
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: as well. If talking, he has, like us, keep spewing

1002
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: out the narrative that the road is somehow easier for

1003
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: Buffalo this postseason. It's only human nature that people inside

1004
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: the buildings started allowing those thoughts to permeate into their

1005
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: brains as well.

1006
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: So I forgot about the trickle up effect.

1007
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: The trickle up effect exactly.

1008
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: It's like the upside down world and a Stranger Things.

1009
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not how physics. Are you

1010
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: know how gravity works? But in this situation, I'm gonna

1011
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: use that example. So in this big game for the Bills,

1012
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: it's not only to keep their chances alive for the

1013
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: AFC East Championship, but it gives them the opportunity to

1014
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: shake off the stigma that they can't stop the run

1015
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: when it matters most, and it shows that can be

1016
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: one of the best teams that the NFC has to offer,

1017
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: and ultimately it can help give them momentum heading into

1018
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 2: what is the biggest postseason of the Josh Allen, Sean McDermott,

1019
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: Greg Dermott Era.

1020
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 3: Today sos Sean John Sewan gone. I could see it.

1021
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: I could see it. I do think it would be

1022
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit unfair, but that's the way these

1023
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: things go. I do think there's context with this Buffalo

1024
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: Bills team. We've talked about it too. I think Grey

1025
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: Cosell we brought up like four times already tonight, have

1026
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 3: a drink every time we bring them up. I guess

1027
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: drinking game. Great co Selle, Grey co Selle, Grey Coseell. Okay,

1028
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 3: you're drunk. This is not one of the better Buffalo teams.

1029
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: It's actually one of the worst.

1030
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, the AFC is down, the field is down, but

1031
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: this isn't one of their best teams, so it makes

1032
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 3: it a little bit dicey. They're relying on Josh Allen

1033
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 3: so much. I don't know. We'll see how it plays out.

1034
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: My hot seat heat check. I put this guy in

1035
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: the hot seat after Week one, and I had him

1036
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 3: and Tomlin on the hot seat together two weeks ago.

1037
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: One shall stand one show fall know where you're going?

1038
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 3: Well, it looks like Mike Tomlin is standing tall, but

1039
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh, Harbaugh.

1040
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: Come here? Would you have a seat right over here

1041
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: for me?

1042
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: I brought some of this up after the Ravens blew

1043
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: the game to the Bills way back in Week one,

1044
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 3: but after their late collapse of the Patriots on Sunday

1045
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 3: Night Football. The Ravens have lost nine games now since

1046
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two where they had a win probability of

1047
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: ninety percent or better. John Harbaugh, he just lost for

1048
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: the twentieth time in the regular season and playoffs after

1049
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: leading by double digits in the second half, more than

1050
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 3: any other coach since nineteen ninety one.

1051
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: Wow.

1052
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: Eight of those losses have come in the last four seasons.

1053
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: It's not what it's longevity. He's been there longer. No,

1054
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 3: most of this stuff has been happening recently. It's been

1055
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 3: concentrated over the last four years with Lama and the

1056
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 3: way they lost that game up eleven with twelve minutes left.

1057
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, I know, is out of the game, but

1058
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry just scored a touchdown. He's averaging seven yards

1059
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 3: per carry.

1060
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 2: Still not getting the ball enough.

1061
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 3: John Harbaugh, in his infinite wisdom, decides to put the

1062
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: game in the hands of backup QB Tyler Huntley. Somehow,

1063
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry isn't even in the game. The final two.

1064
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: Drives for Baltimore inexcusable.

1065
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 3: Now, I know John Harbaugh is not the play caller,

1066
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: but this is a fireable offense for having the wrong

1067
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: offensive personnel in the game, something that even John Harbaugh

1068
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 3: admitted to post games saying about the game winning drive quote, sure,

1069
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: I do want him on the field, Well, then you

1070
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: put him out there.

1071
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 2: You're the head coach, John, what are you talking about?

1072
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: The buck stops with you, And this is not like

1073
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: you're not like the offensive coordinator slash head coach or

1074
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator and you're off in the corner with

1075
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 2: the defense and the offense is doing their own thing.

1076
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: You are the head coach. You make all the decisions.

1077
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: You determined who's in the game and what players are

1078
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: going to be called.

1079
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 3: Head coach with tenure, great tenure, right, I know.

1080
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: Success.

1081
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 3: I guess he was going to come in eventually if

1082
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 3: they didn't turn the ball over like they did late.

1083
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: But you waited too long.

1084
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: Now.

1085
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 3: I know he has his own fumble issues. He had

1086
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 3: one earlier in the game, but he made up for it.

1087
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 2: He's your best offensive player, and that's with Lamar Jackson

1088
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: being banged up. He is your best offensive player. He

1089
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: has to be in the game.

1090
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: That's great. You're rotating backs during the game. The season

1091
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: was on the line, it's still on the line. You've

1092
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 3: blown the two score lead against the Patriots. You better

1093
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 3: have the running back out there who's average six more

1094
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 3: yards per carry than the other option in Mitchell. The

1095
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 3: Ravens might be looking for another option at this point

1096
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: at the head coaching position. I said it at the

1097
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 3: beginning of the season, but he's been living off the

1098
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 3: Joe Flucco Super Bowl run for ages. That was in

1099
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen. That was over a decade ago. I'm not

1100
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 3: blaming John Harbaugh for everything. Lamar hasn't always been good

1101
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: enough or available enough in big games.

1102
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 2: Oh, He's had his sheriff's thinkers in the postseason for sure.

1103
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 3: No doubt. But it might be time to ask Lamar

1104
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: Jackson who he wants as his head coach, because I'm

1105
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 3: moving on from Harball before I'm trading him. Ravens fans

1106
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: they want John Harbaugh's head on a platter, like he's

1107
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 3: John the Baptist right now. They want him tarred and

1108
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: feathered till he looks like a raven, like one of

1109
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: ivan US's replacements for the Puddy Patrol.

1110
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 2: Oh, there's a poll right there. You remember that, Yes,

1111
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: his purple guey whatever. Guys. I don't know if they

1112
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 2: ever actually had a name.

1113
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 3: The bird like things and the Power Rangers movie, all.

1114
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 2: Those, Yeah, okay, the Raptor birds. I thought you were

1115
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 2: talking about the purple oozy whatever things.

1116
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 3: The Raptor birds. That was Alan Grant talking about them

1117
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: being birds. Okay, I'm confused. But Ravens fans, they are

1118
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: harboring great resentment for Harball right now. And that's a

1119
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 3: great job because they have Lamar Jackson, So it would

1120
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: be a number one destination for any future head coach perspective.

1121
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: Head coach, I don't know. I got him on the

1122
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: hot seat. If they don't make the playoffs, or if

1123
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: they do and lose in the first round. With Lamar

1124
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 3: being healthy, I think John Harbaugh it could be over.

1125
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Well, yeah, and look, we can argue about

1126
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: him living off of the Super Bowl. He has had

1127
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 2: a pretty damn good run in Baltimore, making the postseason

1128
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: more often than not. He strikes me as one of

1129
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: those coaches maybe his message is war and then maybe

1130
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: he needs a change of scenery. You know, it's the

1131
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: old Bill Walsh. If you're after a decade, the player

1132
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: stopped listening to you, you kind of need a new

1133
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: challenge at that point in time. If hardball got fun,

1134
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: I think he'd have a job in two days. And

1135
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: the Lamar Jackson thing, I think I addressed this a

1136
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Yeah, you still have him, and he's

1137
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: still under contract. I don't know how healthy he is,

1138
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: and I don't know exactly if whether or not he's

1139
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: on the decline in his career, So I don't know

1140
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 2: how coveted that job might be determining how depending on

1141
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: how healthy Lamar Jackson actually is well.

1142
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: He definitely never got fully healthy again this season, and

1143
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: that's tragic for Ravens fans and for me because I

1144
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: had that prediction that they were going to end up

1145
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: winning the division when they were one and five, and

1146
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: I felt really smart for a while. But that was

1147
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: also kind of hinged on the fact that Lamar's going

1148
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: to get healthy for reels and he never did. He's

1149
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: been missing practices the entire time.

1150
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: He's back well, by the way, Adam, you still can

1151
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: be right. It's not likely but they but you could

1152
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 2: still be right. I'll tell you made a gross error

1153
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: the athletic directors and athletic departments at USC and Notre Dame.

1154
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: And our next guest, Patrick Papadeka is going to come

1155
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: on and talk about that. He'll also talk about Kyle

1156
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: Whittingham coming out of retirement, though not really retirement or

1157
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, his parting of ways

1158
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 2: with Utah.

1159
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: I kind of called that. I kind of called that

1160
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: right after it happened. I said, what about Michigan, What

1161
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 3: about Michigan?

1162
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you did, you did. Look, he never said

1163
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: he was retiring. He just said he was stepping on

1164
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: to a new endeavor. I don't think we all assumed

1165
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: that ten days later or whatever it's been, that Endeavor

1166
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 2: would be the head coach at the University of Michigan.

1167
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: Yet here we sit, did he do the players tribute?

1168
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: Like KD my next chapter?

1169
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: I mean, essentially, you see the statement that he sent

1170
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: out on Friday night. So make a short break. We'll

1171
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: come back. Petris, Papaeka is Fox Sports and Fox fs

1172
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: one college football Analyt's going to join us here. FNA

1173
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: on FSR, don't go anywhere.

1174
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1175
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,040
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1176
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,239
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1177
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,040
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1178
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 2: Hey guys, oooh big golf sir. All right, well see

1179
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: you later.

1180
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 3: FNA man, welcome back in. It's FNA on Fox Sports Radio,

1181
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: f and A on Fox Football Saturday. I'm out of Moslin.

1182
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 3: He's Kevin Figures. We do want to remind you. With

1183
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,640
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1184
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,960
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1185
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1186
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,160
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1187
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,880
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1188
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,120
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1189
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: your presets in the iHeart app so it will always

1190
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 3: pop up at the top of your screen.

1191
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 2: Coming up in about twenty minutes, we'll dive back into

1192
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: the NFL's six Pact, but right now major college football news.

1193
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 2: Over the past week and then over the past few hours,

1194
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, the ending of one of

1195
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: the great rivalries really in all of sports, USC and

1196
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame, and of course one of the great historic

1197
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: programs and really all of sports, the Michigan football program

1198
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: has a new headman of their program. So we'll talk

1199
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: about that and a lot more with our next guest, Adam.

1200
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: Let's go Alan Dragan Dad, thank you, Gutty.

1201
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 3: Well, like me, you may not associate our next guest

1202
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: with I mean, the one to spread the most holiday

1203
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 3: cheer this time of year, but I'll have you know,

1204
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 3: back when I drank, he always brought me a bottle

1205
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 3: of Maker's Mark for Christmas to help me medicate my

1206
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 3: way through the season. And the fact he's coming on

1207
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 3: right now this day, the day after Christmas tells you

1208
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 3: he's low key been on the nice list for years.

1209
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 3: It's College Football analyst Petros Papadakis joining us here on

1210
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 3: F and A on fsr P. We're not with that

1211
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 3: happy holiday stuff. It's Merry Christmas over here.

1212
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 2: How you been?

1213
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 7: That's fine? Hello and happy New Year. I'm okay and

1214
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 7: nice to be on so late in the evening.

1215
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 3: Thanks for doing this the grift that keeps on grifting.

1216
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 3: Let's talk about USC. How many people go into making

1217
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: that decision of not scheduling Notre Dame anymore, and who's

1218
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 3: most of fall for it?

1219
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 7: You know, I think it's something that probably devolved over time.

1220
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 7: I think that USC has had a bunch of different

1221
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 7: athletic directors over the last fifteen years. They've had a

1222
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 7: great deal of turnover at the head coaching position, and

1223
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 7: right now there's no university president at USC. So I

1224
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 7: think what you're looking at as a corrosion of leadership.

1225
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 7: And I believe, without being inside their building for these meetings,

1226
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 7: I believe that this all.

1227
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: Started with Lincoln Riley.

1228
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 7: Lincoln Riley has a history of not wanting to play

1229
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 7: certain games. He talked about the Notre Dame rivalry in

1230
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 7: a disparaging way.

1231
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: When he got the job.

1232
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 7: He didn't want to play LSU to open the season

1233
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 7: last year. If you remember in a game USC one

1234
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 7: that was in Las Vegas to start the season. And

1235
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 7: he has gotten his way here. It seems there's nobody

1236
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 7: that would stop him. I know that the athletic director

1237
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 7: at USC, Jen Cohen, was against this, but at some

1238
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 7: point during the negotiations with Notre Dame that turned around,

1239
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 7: and an ugly situation has gotten uglier. And it's hard

1240
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 7: to recognize USC football if they're not going to play

1241
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 7: Notre Dame every year. And know, to me, this is

1242
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 7: not like Utah and BYU or Texas and Texas A

1243
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 7: and M or anything, or USC Stanford or USC Cal

1244
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 7: or anything else like that.

1245
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 3: And Matt Liner made those points on Twitter.

1246
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is a totally different animal. I wish Matt

1247
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 7: Liner would remember that it wasn't a USC Cal or

1248
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 7: USC Stanford game that made him famous. It was a

1249
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 7: USC Notre Dame game or two. And the fact that

1250
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 7: I had to sit through him and Brady Quinn going

1251
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 7: over the bush push one hundred times for the last

1252
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 7: fifteen years on television, only to have Matt Liner defend

1253
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 7: that the rivalry's gone is a sad irony. There's a

1254
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 7: few sat ironies. One is that I was one that

1255
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 7: supported Jen Cohen, and I even thought Lincoln Riley's hire

1256
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 7: would be a good hire. When it happened, I thought

1257
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 7: they saved USC football. And it was the new blood

1258
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 7: in the athletic department that I was asking for, a

1259
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 7: real ad who had hired and fired people in the

1260
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 7: past and things of that nature. And these are the

1261
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 7: people that don't understand the traditions of the university and

1262
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 7: have let the.

1263
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: Number one rivalry slip away.

1264
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 7: Let me be clear, USC is not USC football if

1265
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 7: they're not playing Notre Dame every year. It's a centuries

1266
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 7: old thing that legitimized USC above the other West Coast

1267
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 7: blue bloods because they played Notre Dame in every year

1268
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 7: and had that history. Notre Dame playing USC every year

1269
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 7: was very similar and showed their versatility as the biggest

1270
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 7: name in college football. And the fact that we're not

1271
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 7: going to do it anymore is terrible for USC players

1272
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 7: going forward. I don't care if they're in the Big

1273
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 7: Ten or the Mountain West or the New Pac twelve

1274
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 7: or anything. And it's terrible for Notre Dame. And I

1275
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 7: don't care which program needs the other program more in

1276
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 7: the moment, I don't care what happened with the negotiations

1277
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 7: and they said this.

1278
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: Or they wanted to play here or there.

1279
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 7: This is terrible. How could you be the athletic director

1280
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 7: at Notre Dame and let the USC rivalry slip away?

1281
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 7: And it started with USC, I'm aware of that. How

1282
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 7: can you be the USC athletic director or head coach

1283
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 7: or anything and allow the Notre Dame rivalry to slip

1284
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 7: away on your watch just because somebody did this or

1285
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 7: somebody it's your job to preserve this. So yes, I'm

1286
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 7: disgusted and disappointed and normally not very passionate about anything

1287
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 7: in modern college football. And this is probably the last

1288
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 7: straw for me. This is.

1289
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 2: Unforgivable. Getting away from the cut and run narrative for

1290
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley certainly is not going to help. I mean,

1291
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: there are people who said that about him and when

1292
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: he took the USC job and left Oklahoma because he

1293
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: didn't want to compete at the SEC level track. No, no,

1294
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 2: you're right.

1295
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 7: It goes back a long way, and he's been public

1296
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 7: about this. And now his athletic director without a university

1297
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 7: president seems to be doing his bidding.

1298
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Speaker 2: And it's a very very sad day.

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01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 7: Beyond Lincoln Riley and whatever he is or is, it

1300
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 7: is the USC coach and basically he's Clay Helton with

1301
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 7: a much more high price tag. And whatever you think

1302
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 7: of Jen Cohen or any I mean, whatever you think

1303
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 7: of any or Notre Dame, whether you think they should

1304
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 7: join a conference, or there being little bitches about the

1305
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 7: ACC or College Football Playoff, this or that, whatever you

1306
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 7: think about any of that, the USC Notre Dame game

1307
01:00:54,520 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 7: is supposed to transcend societal changes and changes in the sport.

1308
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 2: It's supposed to.

1309
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 7: And because it's not a conference related thing, conference movement

1310
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 7: didn't affect it, or shouldn't affect it. If Notre Dame

1311
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 7: joined the conference, it wouldn't affect it.

1312
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: It shouldn't.

1313
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 7: If when USC changed conferences, it should not have affected it.

1314
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 7: So none of those arguments carry any water with me whatsoever.

1315
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: But Kevin, I believe you're right.

1316
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 7: I think it started with Lincoln Riley and it ended

1317
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 7: up getting him his way. And they'll replace They ain't

1318
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 7: going to replace it with Auburn Okay, they're going to

1319
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 7: play three cupcake games because they feel like they deserve that,

1320
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 7: and they're going to operate like some kind of weird

1321
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 7: SEC program and not the USC football that's supposed to

1322
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 7: be a blue blood and supposed to take all comers

1323
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 7: and supposed to play everybody difficult in the off season.

1324
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 2: Papa's conference, I should say, Fox and FS one football

1325
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 2: analyst Petrols Popadecas joining us here on FNA on FSR

1326
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: if we step away from the USC situation to talk

1327
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: about the big news that happened on Friday with Kyle

1328
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 2: Whittingham looking like he's going to be the head coach

1329
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 2: at the University of Michigan after I mean, an organization,

1330
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: a school that was in disarray and they've kind of

1331
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: failed their way into one of the best head coaches

1332
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 2: in college football the last twenty years. Your thoughts on

1333
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham leaving Utah and now joining Michigan reportedly, Yeah,

1334
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: I don't.

1335
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think Kyle Whittingham left Utah to

1336
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 7: go to Michigan, even though there were some I mean

1337
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,479
Speaker 7: weeks ago people talked, or a week or so ago

1338
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 7: when all this stuff started happening, well.

1339
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: It was certainly weird because he said he was leaving

1340
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: to a new chapter, but he never said he was retiring,

1341
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 2: which was kind of oddo.

1342
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I always figured he was retiring, and I

1343
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 7: figured that he didn't want very much change since he'd

1344
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 7: been at Utah all that time, and before that he

1345
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 7: was the decordinator there. And I mean, I'm sure he

1346
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 7: was fine when they went from the Mountain West the

1347
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 7: PAC twelve, but I know he wasn't happy when they

1348
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 7: went from the PAC twelve to the Big twelve. And

1349
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 7: now he wants to go to Michigan and inherit their

1350
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 7: problems more power to him. I feel like they have

1351
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 7: a lot of money. I think I told you this

1352
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 7: last time I was on and it's not some revelation,

1353
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 7: but Michigan's very wealthy, and that can have something to

1354
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 7: do with coaxing him out of retirement. And they're going

1355
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 7: to set up maybe an infrastructure around him that's pleased,

1356
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 7: that pleases him, or is plausible for him to stay

1357
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 7: unretired or whatever, and perhaps they built in a bunch

1358
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 7: of stuff to make it attractive. I'm super surprised, but

1359
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 7: then again, I thought I knew Kyle Whittingham really well,

1360
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 7: and it didn't turn out that way. A few years back,

1361
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 7: and I used to spend a lot of time talking

1362
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 7: about how great he was and what a great thing

1363
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 7: U taught me was and all that stuff is still true.

1364
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 7: But let's just say I don't say that stuff anymore.

1365
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 7: So I don't know him as well as I thought

1366
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 7: I did.

1367
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 2: A and B. Yes, I'm still surprised. Pee.

1368
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 3: I got one more question involving USC here and modern

1369
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: USC football, and you have a better perspective on this

1370
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 3: than anyone. But outside of a five year run with

1371
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll, the last forty five years, I don't know,

1372
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 3: are we overvaluing like USC.

1373
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, to a certain degree.

1374
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 7: I mean you can say that, but throughout all that time,

1375
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 7: you can see that the people that they put in

1376
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 7: pro football, and there's a lot of other factors, but

1377
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 7: you're right after from between two thousand and two and

1378
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 7: two thousand and eight was really kind of Pete Carroll's run,

1379
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 7: and you had the couple of Heisman winners in there,

1380
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 7: the three Heisman winners in there, and then Pete left

1381
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 7: and there was a lot of attention because of Lane

1382
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 7: Kiffin and what happened to him, and then there was

1383
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 7: a lot of attention on Sark and ed ogeron in

1384
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 7: there a great deal of attention, but they were still

1385
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 7: taking all comers and playing Notre Dame every year and

1386
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 7: doing all the things you're supposed to do.

1387
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: To act like USC football.

1388
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 7: I mean, now, at this point they might as well

1389
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 7: just put names on the back of the jerseys and

1390
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 7: do the ultimate uniform thing and playing Bemo Stadium. Why

1391
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 7: not and change the neat name of the team to

1392
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 7: the French Poodles or the French Bulldogs.

1393
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 2: Those are popular now, the Frenchies.

1394
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 7: And seriously, to me, if they're not going to play

1395
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 7: Notre Dame, then it's just not USC football anymore.

1396
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: And is USC overvalued? I don't know.

1397
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 7: They were able to bring down the entire Pac twelve

1398
01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 7: by leaving for the Big ten. I think the history

1399
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 7: that you don't just it's been decades, but we're talking

1400
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 7: about one hundred plus year history of football and a

1401
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 7: lot of money generated because of that. So it's a

1402
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 7: lot more complex of an answer than yes or no.

1403
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 7: But the truth is, yeah, USC football's done. It's been

1404
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 7: over for a long time, and since Pete Carroll left

1405
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 7: and the lack of lack of institutional control that was

1406
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 7: created in his tenure has also created a leadership vacuum

1407
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 7: or corrosion that now fifteen years later, they look in

1408
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 7: the mirror and they don't even see USC football so

1409
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 7: much to the point where they will cancel the Notre

1410
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 7: Dame rivalry because they don't like what happened in negotiations.

1411
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 7: So there's a trickier answer, and it's not yes and

1412
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 7: it's not no.

1413
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: But I see your point.

1414
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 3: Well, just to play Devil's Abba kid or Crampus's advocate

1415
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: during this season up, So you're saying, even if they

1416
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 3: have a better chance of making the playoff, who cares?

1417
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 3: This is about another dame.

1418
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 7: The playoff is an ever changing entity that's controlled by

1419
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 7: a television company and owned by a television company, And

1420
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 7: you're in a conference that if you're in the top

1421
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 7: four or five in the next few years, you're going

1422
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 7: to the playoff anyway, And who knows the sustainability of

1423
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 7: this at all?

1424
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: This is an.

1425
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 7: Ever changing thing. College football is making it up as

1426
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,959
Speaker 7: you go along. If you're going to compromise your whole

1427
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 7: identity for something that's a fly by night situation, and

1428
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 7: that is exactly what the playoff is then, Yeah, who

1429
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 7: cares exactly? Yes, I'm saying, who can. It's not worth

1430
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 7: compromising your entire identity and your integrity, and the playoff's

1431
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,280
Speaker 7: going to grow anyway. And who says the playing Notre

1432
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 7: Dame is going to hurt you in the playoff anyway?

1433
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 7: It could help or hurt. The circumstance of every year changes.

1434
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 7: I think Kevin was way more on top of it

1435
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 7: when he said Lincoln Rowley doesn't want to play.

1436
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: They're soft.

1437
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 7: You can say whatever you want about the modern times,

1438
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 7: or you could twist yourself into whatever kind of intellectual

1439
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 7: pretzel you want to, but the truth is this is soft.

1440
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 7: USC's running away from this. It's a terrible look and

1441
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 7: it's a horrible thing. And shame on Matt Liiner and

1442
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,799
Speaker 7: people like that. You got to play in the USC

1443
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 7: Notre Dame game. You got to get all the fame

1444
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 7: out of it, rising to the moment, and I mean,

1445
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 7: you're not the same person.

1446
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 2: Without that Bush push moment.

1447
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 7: And you're going to turn around and tell a whole

1448
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 7: other generation of USC football players that you might make

1449
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 7: the playoff. So you don't get to play against Notre

1450
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 7: dame if that everything, that's this ridiculous. This is the

1451
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 7: stupidest thing I've ever heard, But you know, it's modern

1452
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 7: college football.

1453
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: But this is really the last straw for me. Yeah. Well,

1454
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 2: talking about the ever changing landscape of college football and

1455
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: the playoff and how it's going to continue to evolve,

1456
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: one thing that's being hurt by that is the Bulls

1457
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 2: and the traditional ball system. How do you feel about

1458
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 2: the way that bull season is kind of being treated

1459
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 2: now as opposed It was a big deal to go

1460
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: to a bowl game back then, and now, I mean

1461
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: even halfway decent bowls that you were usually pay attention to.

1462
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 2: Nobody cares anymore because all they care about is are

1463
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 2: you in the playoff or are you not?

1464
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's part of something. ESPN owns all

1465
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,480
Speaker 7: of it, right, And look, I played in the nineties

1466
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 7: and we went to the Sun Bowl and nobody wanted

1467
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 7: to be there. I mean, we played, we got beat,

1468
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 7: but you just go down, you know, deep down, it

1469
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 7: wasn't It's not like this is always these are always

1470
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 7: the most coveted things. It's the bowl games are circumstantial.

1471
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 7: The truth is we have way too many bowl games

1472
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 7: and that's because of some inventory issue with ESPN and

1473
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 7: that there's money to be made, and people still watch

1474
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 7: these games and they're a social media sensation. The players

1475
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 7: might not necessarily want to play, but they might be

1476
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 7: good for the development of other players. The problem is attendance.

1477
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 7: That's really more of their issue because they're playing at

1478
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 7: empty stadiums and that's not necessarily.

1479
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 2: A good look.

1480
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 7: Although there were a lot of people in Detroit this

1481
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 7: morning when I checked in on the Chippawalls, So I

1482
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 7: think the Bowl situation is going to have to be restructured.

1483
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 7: But the truth is, and when I was playing, there

1484
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 7: wasn't a thousand bowls and people still didn't want to go,

1485
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 7: So you know, I think I think people kind of

1486
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 7: forget a year in, year out. I mean, they don't

1487
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,759
Speaker 7: even remember the Freedom Bowl that used to be played

1488
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 7: in Anaheim. We've always had stupid, meaningless Bowl games, and

1489
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 7: even when there wasn't a thousand of them, people felt

1490
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 7: like there was too many. So I'm sure that there'll

1491
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 7: be some adjustment there unless there's enough money to be made,

1492
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 7: and then they'll stay exactly where they are because there

1493
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 7: is money in the Bowl games and some teams it

1494
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 7: just depends on it. I mean, college football is so circumstantial,

1495
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 7: and it's so it changes with every individual program to

1496
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 7: where some programs might be in a development stage with

1497
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 7: the players they've recruited or the portal or JC guys

1498
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 7: or whatever, where they don't want to play a bowl game.

1499
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 7: It's not going to help them, it's not going to

1500
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 7: hurt them. They don't want the practices, they don't need it.

1501
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 7: There are others that are going to remain intact, that

1502
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 7: are all about retention, that are going into a year

1503
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 7: where they feel like they have a chance, but they

1504
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 7: need to develop a younger team and they're going to

1505
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 7: keep most of those guys through the portal. Then yeah,

1506
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 7: you might want to play and have the fifteen practices

1507
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 7: and continue to develop your team before spring ball starts

1508
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 7: and have a look at what it looks like. If

1509
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 7: you have a cornerback who is going to be your

1510
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 7: starter next year, but he's been.

1511
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 2: Playing behind a guy and that guy is.

1512
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 7: Moving on or transferring or going on to the pros

1513
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 7: or not playing in the bowl game for whatever reason,

1514
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 7: you might want to get a look at him. I mean,

1515
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 7: so it changes based on what your situation is. So

1516
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 7: to make these sweeping general arguments like they don't want

1517
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 7: to play. Well, that's not true. Some people do, some

1518
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 7: people don't. And I thought it was fine. Earlier in

1519
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 7: the year, Kansas State just had a coaching change. Their

1520
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 7: coach was with A and M as the play caller

1521
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 7: call Incline, the head coach retired Chris Kleiman, who did

1522
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 7: a great job there, and they didn't want to play

1523
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 7: in a bowl game because they were in the midst

1524
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 7: of a coaching change, And they went right out and

1525
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 7: said we don't want to next year while calling Klein's

1526
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 7: developing a team. Whatever their situation is, they might definitely

1527
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 7: want to play in a bowl game even if they

1528
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 7: didn't make the College Football Playoff.

1529
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 2: So you understand what I'm saying. Yeah, y'all know it

1530
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 2: makes total sense.

1531
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 7: So we might lose some of the bowl games, but

1532
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 7: I don't think the whole bowl game structure is going

1533
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:32,799
Speaker 7: to collapse.

1534
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last one for me, just talking about a

1535
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: week removed for our week away FRO. I should safe

1536
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: from the start of the quarterfinals in the College Football Playoff.

1537
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have the ability to try

1538
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: to handicap who you think the favorite should be. Is

1539
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 2: a top brink, Indiana taking on Alabama into somebody else

1540
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: like Texas Tech. How do you see the College Football

1541
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 2: Playoff quarterfinal round going off? Your access? Tech is so

1542
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 2: good on defense? There really are.

1543
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 7: They might unless their quarterback gets hurt or they get

1544
01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 7: real shaky on offense.

1545
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: I think they can.

1546
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 7: Beat Oregon and then yeah, I know, and then it's

1547
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 7: one of those teams that you support scattered across the

1548
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 7: country and a place you've never been. I'll meet you

1549
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 7: in Charlotte. I look Inland, North Carolina. Anyway, I like

1550
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 7: Texas Tech a lot. I like obviously it's hard to

1551
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 7: deny the talent of Ohio State, but we went out

1552
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 7: and saw Indiana control that talent for four quarters and win.

1553
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 2: A football game.

1554
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 7: So then it's like, Wow, Indiana's pretty good, right, How

1555
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 7: you going to beat Indiana? It is interesting. The first

1556
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 7: round didn't lend too much interest, but I will be

1557
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 7: interested to see how it plays out. And I do

1558
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 7: want to point out that the College Football Playoff got

1559
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 7: a lot last year out of the fact that Notre

1560
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 7: Dame played in four of those games, and that's I mean,

1561
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 7: that's something that nobody's mentioning or talking about because we

1562
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,879
Speaker 7: forget about the past within a month or three weeks

1563
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 7: after it's over, especially in today's modern sports calendar.

1564
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 2: But here's a guy.

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01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 7: In Marcus Freeman who's got Notre Dame in a really

1566
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,679
Speaker 7: good situation, a lot better than USC and they still

1567
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 7: have their own TV deal. So why would they want

1568
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 7: to do anything for anybody else when they have that.

1569
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: That's just it's.

1570
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,640
Speaker 7: Pretty obvious to me. But last year, the fact that

1571
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 7: Notre Dame, the number one brand in all of the sport,

1572
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 7: played in the title game and played in four different

1573
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 7: games throughout the playoff and was kind of the darling

1574
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 7: of the playoff I think certainly helped the playoff this

1575
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:51,799
Speaker 7: year last year. This year, it's probably Indiana or somebody

1576
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 7: like that, But there's plenty of personalities involved.

1577
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 2: Miami.

1578
01:15:55,240 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 7: Will be fun to see them play and get beaten. Overall,

1579
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to it. But we still have like

1580
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:04,640
Speaker 7: what like a week away we do.

1581
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: You know what's the dumbest part about this Matt Lioner tweet.

1582
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 3: He says, call me lame, but I'm I'm going to

1583
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 3: trust a school that's produced more Heisman winners than anyone

1584
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 3: else in history in eleven national championships and do what's

1585
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 3: right for the program that the people that did that

1586
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 3: aren't there anymore. Yeah, it's like, what are you talking

1587
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:21,679
Speaker 3: about to him?

1588
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,719
Speaker 7: The school is like a smiling person with a hand

1589
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 7: and a heart and a look. This is just somebody

1590
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 7: protecting their revenue stream and that's fine. But maybe, just maybe,

1591
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 7: since the Notre Dame game is basically half of your

1592
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 7: whole football identity, you might want.

1593
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 2: To just sit this one out.

1594
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 7: I mean, we'll just not do another Bush push video

1595
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 7: for another fifteen years.

1596
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 3: He was under center during the Dentnis Green game on

1597
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 3: Monday Night Football against the Bears for the Arizona Cardinals.

1598
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 3: We let him off the that was a big deal.

1599
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he can that's gone away too.

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01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 3: He's petrospapan Akis, a Fox Sports Radio here with f

1601
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 3: and a Taco of FSRS, a college football analyst, and

1602
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 3: you're hearing weekdays on AM five seventy LA Sports, our

1603
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: local affiliate on the Petros and Money Show.

1604
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 7: Pee.

1605
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 3: Thanks for doing this a day after Christmas, No less

1606
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 3: appreciate it.

1607
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,760
Speaker 2: All right, Have a great day and happy New Year everybody. Yes,

1608
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 2: Happy New Year to up. Good stuff and a good

1609
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 2: day to you.

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01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 3: Sir, Now, I will say this, if I'm a USC

1611
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 3: fan and I'm thinking about what defines my season more,

1612
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:31,799
Speaker 3: is it playing or beating Notre Dame or just getting

1613
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 3: into the playoffs through the path of least resistance.

1614
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 2: I don't know that that's up for debate depending on

1615
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 2: who you talk to, Adam.

1616
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: It really is a new school USC fans might not

1617
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 3: care as much about the Notre Dame rivalry and just

1618
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 3: think about getting into the playoff by any means necessary.

1619
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. I'm up fall more

1620
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: into the line of the old school, and you got

1621
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: he can keep the traditional rivalry and still try to

1622
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 2: compete on a high level. Your USC, you're one of

1623
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: the marque programs in the entire country. Hold yourself to

1624
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 2: a higher stand. They used to you know what I

1625
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 2: hold to a high standard, the FNA six pack, And

1626
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 2: that's going to continue coming up on the very next segment.

1627
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:05,960
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1630
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:14,920
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1631
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 7: to make you forget those facts.

1632
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1638
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1641
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1642
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 3: Mark what's next here in the NFL.

1643
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 2: Six Pack Trap Game Tap.

1644
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 3: Kevin, you want to go?

1645
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll start with my trap game tap here, and

1646
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 2: I will go with the Buccaneers on the road, taking

1647
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: on to the Miami Dolphins last week. I had Tampa

1648
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 2: Bay and more specifically To Bowls on my hot seat

1649
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 2: before their game against your Panthers, and of course they

1650
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 2: blew it. Although I'll give the Panthers credit for as

1651
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 2: much incoming as Bryce Young has gotten this season, He's

1652
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 2: actually been i'd say average to above average to a

1653
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 2: certain degree, He's actually played pretty damn well. He's turned

1654
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 2: himself from someone who was probably a complete and total

1655
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 2: bust to someone who if everything's falling into place around him.

1656
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: He can actually be a halfway decent player in a

1657
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 2: decent starting quarterback for a playoff caliber team. I don't

1658
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 2: think that's too much to say, Adam.

1659
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 3: With the caveat of in the NFC South.

1660
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So going back to Tampa Bay and conahar

1661
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 2: to call this a trap game because it is in

1662
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 2: a sense they must win for them the way it

1663
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: shapes up. If the Panthers beat Seattle and Bucks lose

1664
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 2: to Miami, Bucks are out and the Panthers are in,

1665
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 2: and that Week eight team matchup means nothing. But if

1666
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 2: Tampa wins, it sets up an NFC South championship match

1667
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 2: and Week eight team between themselves and Carolina. So really,

1668
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 2: the Bucks can't afford to look aheads Week eighteen against

1669
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 2: Carolina because it might not matter. And honestly, if you're

1670
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and you're facing a down trot in Miami

1671
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 2: team that's going nowhere with a rookie quarterback and can

1672
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: kon on their minds, you should anyway. And if you don't,

1673
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 2: you don't deserve to make the playoffs. So if Tampa

1674
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: is a perfect example of why people say the season

1675
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 2: is a marathon, and not a sprint. For six weeks

1676
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 2: at the start of the season, people were printing Super

1677
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 2: Bowl tickets. You're talking about Baker Mayfield being the MVP. Now,

1678
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the team is in danger of

1679
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,879
Speaker 2: missing the postseason and their head coach could be coaching

1680
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: for his job.

1681
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 3: Wait a second, walk me through this the playoff situation

1682
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 3: in the NFC South. The Panthers are up a game,

1683
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 3: but if they tie with the same record and they

1684
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 3: split the season series, then what it goes to division record?

1685
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,799
Speaker 2: And think its a division record after that? Correct?

1686
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 3: Okay, so it is gonna come down to assuming the

1687
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,440
Speaker 3: Dolphins lay down, which they might not they've actually been playing.

1688
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's not a given for Tampa at.

1689
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 3: All, not the way they've been playing.

1690
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 2: No, so they could very easily lose that game to

1691
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. I can absolutely see that happening, And

1692
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: if that does happen, I think tod Bowls might be done.

1693
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 3: So a nine to seventy could win the NFC South

1694
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 3: basically because that's what we take for the Buccaneers.

1695
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 2: To do this.

1696
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yes, that's disgusting, that is embarrassing, that is shameful,

1697
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 3: that's worse than USC no longer playing Notre Dame in my.

1698
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 2: Opinion, Well, look, I mean we had one point in time,

1699
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 2: had a seven and nine team make the postseason, a

1700
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 2: win a playoff game against an eleven win Saints team.

1701
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 2: So crazy things happening in the NFL. The six pack

1702
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: will continue. Coming up next, FNA FSR.

1703
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1704
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 3: Welcome back in. It is FNA on Fox Football Saturday.

1705
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 3: I'm out of Moslin. He is Kevin Figures. We love y' all,

1706
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 3: Thanks for being here with us. Coming up, we still

1707
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 3: have our college football forecast, but if you need to

1708
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 3: get to either of us, He's at k fig one

1709
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 3: on X I'm at follow Adam A. We still have

1710
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 3: two on two off with an interesting development. Kevinhing you right, Well,

1711
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 3: development is that Well you'll see, you'll find out, you'll

1712
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 3: find I don't know if you're gonna like it.

1713
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be all right.

1714
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 3: Look how cocky is I'm tired of this.

1715
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 2: I'll be fine.

1716
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 3: Just because you're up on me by four or five games,

1717
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 3: I'll sleep Okay. There's still two weeks in the NFL

1718
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 3: season left. I have time, plenty of time to go

1719
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 3: at them all. Right, Mark, do we have time to

1720
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 3: get to Oh, it's my turn. You said it was

1721
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 3: my turn. It's my turn.

1722
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: It's all yours. The floor is yours, Adham, I.

1723
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 3: Need you get my track. Yeah, it goes to me. Now,

1724
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 3: you probably think, after last week's big victory over the

1725
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 3: Bucks that I'm about to flip flop and jump back

1726
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 3: in with my Panthers. But no, no.

1727
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 2: You're going to reverse psychology on this. Of course you are.

1728
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 3: No. I told you I'm officially out. You don't lose

1729
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 3: twice to the Saints. Okay, I'm out. It's like Vince

1730
01:22:56,760 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 3: Bond said in season two of True Detective, which no

1731
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 3: where watched. Quote, sometimes a thing happens split your life.

1732
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 3: There's a before and then after. Vince Bond was playing

1733
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 3: a serious role. There was me before the Panthers lost

1734
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:16,520
Speaker 3: to the Saints twice, and I was a well adjusted

1735
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 3: and happy, go lucky sports fan. And there's me after

1736
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 3: the Panthers lost to the Saints twice.

1737
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 2: Bags under your eyes, shaking in the corner, losing your hair.

1738
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 3: Now I'm unhinged. Yeah, I'm a maniac. I could fly

1739
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 3: off the handle at any time. But I had a

1740
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 3: revelation in a moment of serenity when I saw the

1741
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 3: panthers upcoming schedule. Sure, if they went on Sunday and

1742
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 3: the Bucks lose, we're gonna win the division. But even

1743
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 3: if that happens, Wait.

1744
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 2: So it's we So if they win the division, it's

1745
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, we stay.

1746
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 3: With me even if that happens. Guess who they're playing

1747
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 3: whoever ends up as the five seed out of the

1748
01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 3: NFC West, most likely between the Rams and Seahawks. Yep, yeah,

1749
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 3: good luck actually winning a playoff game against them, and

1750
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 3: good luck even winning the division because they're taking on

1751
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 3: the Hawks at home this weekend. Well, the Bucks, as

1752
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 3: you mentioned, get the Dolphins.

1753
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you already beat the Rams. Why can't you

1754
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 2: beat the Seahawks? Some we come on.

1755
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 3: The Panthers are eight point dogs at home against the

1756
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,520
Speaker 3: Seahawks this weekend.

1757
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 2: Right where they go?

1758
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 3: Find me another playoff team that could be eight point

1759
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:31,799
Speaker 3: dogs at home against anyone in the last decade. Vegas

1760
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 3: don't believe in the Panthers either, and neither do I.

1761
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 3: So I'm not falling in the trap of thinking we've

1762
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 3: arrived or we're definitely winning the South and have a

1763
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,839
Speaker 3: chance to make some noise in the playoffs. The Panthers

1764
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,839
Speaker 3: are not out of the woods. They are as lost

1765
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 3: as the filmmakers and the Blair Witch Project. The snot

1766
01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 3: is coming out of that woman's nose, and that is

1767
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 3: looking more attractive than our playoff chances. You Panthers fans

1768
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 3: that think you're safe, beware. This could be the nightmare

1769
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 3: after Christmas on Sunday for the Panthers against the Seahawks,

1770
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 3: team that is playing for the number one seed. I

1771
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 3: am guarding my heart. I can't live out on that

1772
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 3: ledge anymore with this team that makes me want to

1773
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 3: jump off every week one way or another. This season

1774
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 3: will not end pretty, and we'll still have more questions

1775
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: than answers than answers about the Panthers and this direction

1776
01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 3: of this inept franchise. That's that's why I've said trap

1777
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 3: game tap.

1778
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,639
Speaker 2: Oh wow. I watch the Panthers win a playoff game

1779
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 2: against San Francisco all in, Hey and Big Mike Lingar

1780
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 2: are gonna come in. We're in their Panther jerseys, back

1781
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 2: to back, high five and formula.

1782
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 3: I can see it already beating San Francisco like that.

1783
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 3: That would mean a lot to me. But it's not

1784
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 3: gonna happen, Kevin, Yeah, exactly, what's.

1785
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 1: The next Mark beer goggles?

1786
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 2: Gay? Yes, the ugly matchup that might end up being

1787
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 2: an entertaining game, But I'm going to the Jaguars and

1788
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 2: the Coats, and I will say kudos. Jacksonville silenced all

1789
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: those haters last week with that dominant victory over the Broncos, which,

1790
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 2: by the way, this league as a whole has been

1791
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 2: kind of drunk all season long. So look at him.

1792
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,759
Speaker 2: So and if in August I had told you the Patriots, Jaguars, Bears,

1793
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 2: and Seahawks would all have an eleven or more wins,

1794
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 2: you'd probably think I was insane, or maybe not, maybe

1795
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: you saw it coming.

1796
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 3: No, I'd be thinking bath salts.

1797
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly at the very least. But this is the NFL.

1798
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 2: This is what they want, and I'll be honest, I'm

1799
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 2: kind of here for it because I've gotten into debates

1800
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 2: over the years over whether or not you the league

1801
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 2: is better if you have dynasties or if you have parody.

1802
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 2: My general preference is to have a little bit of both,

1803
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 2: which is, honestly, Adam, what we've kind of had the

1804
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: last two decades. Look at what happened with the Chiefs

1805
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 2: have done on the heels and what the Patriots did,

1806
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 2: and even in those teams runs of dominance, we've had

1807
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 2: plenty of playoff parody. In the midst of the Patriot dynasty. Steelers, Ravens, Colt,

1808
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 2: Broncos all won championships. And that's just in the AFC

1809
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: and on Kansas City's watching over the past decade, they've

1810
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: won their year of Super Bowls and they've lost their

1811
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 2: share of Super Bowls. So seasons like this where you're

1812
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,679
Speaker 2: basically guaranteed to have some new blood coming or competing

1813
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 2: for a championship, I think he's actually good for the sport,

1814
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 2: and honestly is when it's the most entertaining. So that

1815
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: brings me back to Jacksonville. Even though some may not

1816
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 2: want to admit it, they are a legitimate Super Bowl

1817
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 2: contender in the AFC and left no doubt what that

1818
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 2: victory over Denver last week. But that being said, I

1819
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 2: do think people are sleeping on this Colts team thinking

1820
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 2: they're going to be a little bit of a walkover

1821
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 2: even though they're eliminated from the postseason. Look, it's still

1822
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 2: a division rival. Coach do have a chance to play

1823
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 2: a little bit of a spoiler by knocking the Jacks

1824
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: out of the division lead and into the wildcart round.

1825
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,120
Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm sure if you've seen Philip

1826
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 2: Rivers over these past couple of weeks, and most notably

1827
01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 2: on Monday Night against San Francisco, does he look like

1828
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 2: a guy who's ready to just give up on the season.

1829
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck walking over that. That's a pretty big

1830
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 3: moung Well, that's Malcolm.

1831
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 2: Hill hey, and he's playing. He's balling his ass off.

1832
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 2: You know, it kind of started as a punchline. We

1833
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,040
Speaker 2: talked about it, Adam saying like, we're not optimistic he

1834
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 2: can make a difference for the Colts, and yes they're

1835
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 2: one two, but they were knocking on the door of

1836
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 2: beating Seattle and Rivers ball is asked off competed on

1837
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 2: Monday night when Jonathan Taylor had nothing going against San Francisco.

1838
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 2: So well, yes, that's.

1839
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 3: My favorite thing in sports right now, honestly, what Philip

1840
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,679
Speaker 3: Rivers is doing. Because for people who are getting older

1841
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,680
Speaker 3: like us, it's only happening to us.

1842
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 2: I'm getting old.

1843
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 3: That means something to me to see an older guy

1844
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 3: ball out like that.

1845
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 2: Forty four year old grandfather hadn't played in five years,

1846
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: and he's out there tossing touchdown passes against one of

1847
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 2: the best defenses in the league and almost garts in Seattle.

1848
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 3: Come on, they get there, the ball gets there. His

1849
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 3: anticipation is there.

1850
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 2: Not like he had the cannon arm to begin with

1851
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: from day one, So that was never an asset that

1852
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: he had. Just away. Just brings that veteran savage, that

1853
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 2: veteran presence, to your point, knows how to find a

1854
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: way to get it.

1855
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 3: There, more weight behind those throws.

1856
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 2: Now, it's conventional wisdom will tell you to take the

1857
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 2: Jaguars and the points here because they've won six in

1858
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 2: a row. They're going to the postseason. The Coats have

1859
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: lost four straight. Headed for a tropical island somewhere. Conventional

1860
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 2: wisdom doesn't always bear itself out in the NFL, like

1861
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: I talked about a second ago, and I think that'll

1862
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 2: be the case here. Jacksonville will have their hands full

1863
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 2: against the Indianapolis Colts.

1864
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 3: All right, my beer goggles game here, Jega bombs down here, Tief.

1865
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 3: When I put on my beer goggles, I see two

1866
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 3: teams on Sunday in Vegas that aren't playing a football

1867
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 3: game as much as they are acting out a play.

1868
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 3: It's simulating football, well.

1869
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 2: The Pro Bowl or something. What's going on now?

1870
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 3: They are feigning competitiveness and I'm here for it. Why

1871
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 3: does neither team want to win like that Little League

1872
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 3: episode of South Park because the winner could lose out

1873
01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 3: on the number one pick in the draft. What interests

1874
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 3: me is you have competing agendas out there. I think

1875
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 3: while Mark Davis would prefer losing with the Raiders, Pete

1876
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,679
Speaker 3: Carroll wants to win. He's wired that way, win forever.

1877
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Per job job too. His job could

1878
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 3: be on the line. I don't know if this would

1879
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 3: save it, but they might also fire him if he

1880
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 3: screws up the take job they're trying to do.

1881
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: So they're just saying it's a lose lose situation for Opete.

1882
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 3: It could be you. And meanwhile, the Giants in this game,

1883
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 3: the ownership would probably like to lose. Mike Kafka, though

1884
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,799
Speaker 3: their interim head coach wants to win. So does Jackson

1885
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 3: Dart because he's trying to show them they don't need

1886
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 3: a quarterback. They don't need Fernando Mendoza. I got this

1887
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 3: thing on lockdown.

1888
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 2: Don't you feel that he's kind of solidified himself to

1889
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 2: a certain degree.

1890
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:40,719
Speaker 3: Mendoza winning the Heisman and if they make a run here,

1891
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,559
Speaker 3: if they win the whole thing, it might be too tempting.

1892
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,440
Speaker 3: You might just have to take him. Anyways.

1893
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 2: I like Mendoza, I just don't love him, to be

1894
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 2: honest with you. He's a really good player, but first

1895
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 2: overall pick, top three pick in the draft because he's

1896
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 2: a quarterback. At him he'll get there, Yeah, but I

1897
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 2: just don't Generally speaking, I don't see it all right.

1898
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,120
Speaker 3: But I will say none of the players on the

1899
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:05,440
Speaker 3: field will be tanking. But the coaches and the decision

1900
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 3: makers could alter things if it's a close game in

1901
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 3: order to secure the number one pick in the draft

1902
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 3: between the Raiders and the Giants. Like, is someone going

1903
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 3: to do something overly stupid to seal the loss that

1904
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:24,120
Speaker 3: has the NFL raised an eyebrow? Will the integrity of

1905
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 3: the game be put on trial? This might be the

1906
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 3: first time in his career that even Tom Brady wants

1907
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 3: to lose. We know he's tried to cheat to win.

1908
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 3: What about cheating to lose? Shouldn't that be easier to

1909
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 3: cover up. He's gonna over inflate the balls, kill all

1910
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,840
Speaker 3: the cameras in the stadium. If the Raiders actually win

1911
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 3: the one game they shouldn't, I will be laughing Hard'd

1912
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,879
Speaker 3: be awesome to see the fan with the spiked shoulder

1913
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 3: pads do the Larry David expression where he's not sure

1914
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,439
Speaker 3: if this is a good thing or a bad thing

1915
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 3: in the crowd with his.

1916
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 2: Face painted Darth Raider would pull the Obi Wan and

1917
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:06,520
Speaker 2: just kill himself, basically.

1918
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:14,160
Speaker 3: Take himself out. Or maybe it's the Alonso morning. Yeah,

1919
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 3: I guess it was good. I don't know. That's how

1920
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 3: Raiders fans might feel during this game. I don't know

1921
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 3: if you want to win, Kevin, you got.

1922
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 2: An answer for that. I'll get into that and under

1923
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 2: the microscope.

1924
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I tease it out. Mark, what's coming up next?

1925
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:50,639
Speaker 8: Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh Chris, I'm so sorry.

1926
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 2: All right, Oh Troy epic failed potential and I'm going

1927
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 2: with the Pittsburgh Steelers to him. Now. I'll place a

1928
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 2: caveat on it by saying that if the Ravens do

1929
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 2: lose to Green Bay tonight, my entire take here is moot.

1930
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 2: Because the Steelers will have clinched the AFC North before

1931
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 2: they even take the field on Sunday. So that being said,

1932
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 2: the playoffs are essentially here for Pittsburgh already. Though regardless

1933
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 2: of what happens tonight in Green Bay, Pittsburgh beats the Browns,

1934
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 2: they clinched the AFC North. The problem is, I don't

1935
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 2: think that's a given. We've seen a number of times

1936
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 2: where a team has a chance to clinch a playoffs

1937
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 2: spot with their only requirement being they beat a division

1938
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 2: opponent with a bad record with nothing to play for,

1939
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 2: and they end up falling flat on their face. It

1940
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 2: happens all the time. I would say all the time,

1941
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 2: but it's happened multiple times, I'll put it that way,

1942
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 2: and it hasn't necessarily worked for me in our two

1943
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 2: to on two off segment. But the Browns have shown

1944
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: themselves to be fairly scrappy at times this year. I

1945
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 2: don't think they played well at all last week against Buffalo,

1946
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 2: and they still only lost by three points. That tells

1947
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 2: you how resilient they are. While the Steelers have won

1948
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 2: three games in a row, they are the very epitome

1949
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 2: of the average eight to nine or nine to eight

1950
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 2: football team that we were talking about earlier, just as

1951
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 2: liable to beat anyone, just as liable to lose to

1952
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 2: anyone one. Thing the Steelers have in their favor hitting

1953
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 2: into this game. Despite their inconsistencies, they do generally beat

1954
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 2: the teams that they're supposed to beat. Only one of

1955
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 2: their six losses is against the teams with the losing record,

1956
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 2: and that was that shootout early in the year Joe

1957
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 2: Flacco's debut for the Cincinnati Bengals on that Thursday night.

1958
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 2: So if you follow that trend, you'll assume that Pittsburgh

1959
01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 2: has nothing to worry about here, but in a game

1960
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 2: like this, as I mentioned, division rival, nothing to lose,

1961
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,320
Speaker 2: nothing more what they love than the knock you out

1962
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 2: of the postseason. I think you can kind of throw

1963
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 2: away that trend. So often signs we're talking about games,

1964
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 2: we'll say team A will win because they want it more,

1965
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 2: they need the game more. That doesn't necessarily always matter.

1966
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,600
Speaker 2: Every now and then, the motivation of being a spoilers

1967
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: to persed, the motivation to propel yourself into the postseason.

1968
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: And if you don't believe me again, look it up.

1969
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 2: There's plenty of examples in history that prove me right,

1970
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 2: all right.

1971
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 3: I also have this as my olde Troy epic fail

1972
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:54,799
Speaker 3: potential game for a couple different reasons. I guess first,

1973
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 3: like you said, if the Steelers end up losing to

1974
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns with how much they have to play for,

1975
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 3: that's rough, especially with Shaduur, and that's severed pinky. And

1976
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this, I really liked what Shaduur Sanders

1977
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 3: gave to that reporter with his answer. The reporter was

1978
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 3: trying to be divisive, give him a tough question about

1979
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 3: going forward on fourth down and what he thought of

1980
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 3: the call. I'm fine with the reporter asking that question.

1981
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 3: That's their job find the story or maybe even create

1982
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 3: one if the player falls forward. Chaduur did not, and

1983
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 3: instead turned it into a moment where he looks good

1984
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 3: like a stable leader that isn't willing to throw anyone

1985
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 3: under Jerome Bettis's bus along the bumpy ride where they're

1986
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 3: trying to turn around this thing in Cleveland right now.

1987
01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 3: It was well handled by him.

1988
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 2: Second or third time that's happened in the past month

1989
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 2: or so where Shaduur Sanders has been given an interesting

1990
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 2: question by the media, and he's handled it flawlessly.

1991
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 3: Dodging those land mines. But the real way this turns

1992
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 3: into an epic fail for the Browns is if Miles

1993
01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:02,080
Speaker 3: Garrett does doesn't get the sack record this week. Because

1994
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 3: I don't care if he breaks the record while getting

1995
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 3: an extra game, I'm sorry. You gotta do it in

1996
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,599
Speaker 3: sixteen games, just like Michael Strahan did.

1997
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 2: I think that's necessarily true.

1998
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 3: But all right, there will be an asterisk on time

1999
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 3: in my record book. There will be Kevin and that's

2000
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 3: very important to Miles Garrett. I know this.

2001
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 2: Now.

2002
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,679
Speaker 3: Forget the half sack bs that he got last week.

2003
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 3: That was interesting because if you get another one of those,

2004
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 3: that will just tie him with Michael Strahan because he

2005
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 3: had twenty two and a half sacks in two thousand

2006
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:34,360
Speaker 3: and one. Miles Garrett is currently at twenty two, so

2007
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 3: one sack to rule them all that will give him

2008
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 3: the legit record on Sunday. What's interesting is the Steelers

2009
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 3: are twenty third in sacks allowed on the season. They've

2010
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 3: only given up twenty seven. For perspective, the worst team

2011
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 3: in that category is the Jets. They've given up fifty

2012
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 3: eight sacks. The Raiders fifty seven Miles Garrett. He's gonna

2013
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 3: have to earn it because he didn't have a sack

2014
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,719
Speaker 3: against them in their first game against Pittsburgh this season.

2015
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 3: And Aaron Rodgers is unlikely. I think to pull uh

2016
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 3: Brett Farv what his former mentor did.

2017
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,519
Speaker 2: When he laid down, I mean, how legitimate Michael Strahan,

2018
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 2: how legitimate is that? I don't care if you want

2019
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 2: to look at that. Our guest the numble shops, they'll

2020
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 2: have the record. Here's the thing, t J. Watt Or

2021
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 2: or Michael Strahan. All Farv did was not get hit harder.

2022
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 2: He had nowhere to go he did. I remember this

2023
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 2: game vividly. The Packers were gonna win. They're planning against

2024
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 2: a Giants team that was not going to the postseason.

2025
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 2: The Packers were up by like ten with like three

2026
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 2: minutes to go, and they ran some bootleg play with

2027
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 2: Brett Faarr for no reason when they could have run

2028
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 2: out the clock. They absolutely called that play intentionally so

2029
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,759
Speaker 2: that Michael Strahan could break the sack record.

2030
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 3: I can't call it all that.

2031
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 2: If we're calling into question the legitimacy of it, that's

2032
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,759
Speaker 2: illegitimate too. And Mark Gastonell should still have the record

2033
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:55,400
Speaker 2: of most sacks in the NFL history.

2034
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 3: All I'm saying is this, if Miles Garrett wants it,

2035
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 3: you better get that sack on Sunday against Pittsburgh. Alright,

2036
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 3: I'm not buying that this extra extra week bs no, no, no, no,

2037
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 3: this extra credit.

2038
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: Ah.

2039
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 3: You know you can make up for it and do

2040
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 3: some extra work later on to turn that B plus

2041
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:15,560
Speaker 3: into an a F that get it on Sunday or

2042
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 3: to oh Troy epic fail, Garrett.

2043
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 2: Jeez right, we'll step aside for a minute. We'll come

2044
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,360
Speaker 2: back and can sell you the NFL sticks back here

2045
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2046
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2050
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2051
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2052
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2055
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2061
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,599
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2062
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2065
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2066
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 2: get one thousand dollars back to put some money back

2067
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 2: into your pocket after buying all those Christmas gifts. So

2068
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 2: there you go. Don't get cheap on me, doccha, Mark.

2069
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 2: Let's dive back into the NFL six pack.

2070
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 1: What do we got under the microscope?

2071
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:48,759
Speaker 2: Yes, gameplay or a team everyone should watch closely this weekend.

2072
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 2: And I am going to go back to something you

2073
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 2: talked about earlier, Adam, and that Raiders Giants game and

2074
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 2: the way I'll say this, the big question for me,

2075
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:59,040
Speaker 2: who knows the assignment? Both teams come in just a

2076
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 2: couple of wins and the loser, as you talked about,

2077
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 2: most likely gonna get the top pick in the draft.

2078
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 2: So it behoo's both teams to lose. And I said

2079
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:08,720
Speaker 2: this earlier as a Raider fan, I think it does

2080
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 2: kind of suck to have a top three pick this

2081
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 2: year because I don't think it's a pretty strong quarterback class.

2082
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 2: I like Banana Mendoza, I like Dante Moore. I don't

2083
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 2: know if I like those guys enough to say I

2084
01:40:18,439 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 2: take him in the top three, top five of the draft.

2085
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:22,560
Speaker 2: So from that standpoint as a Raider fan, I'm a

2086
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 2: little bit disappointed to and if anything, I might want

2087
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 2: them to trade back. But we're far ways away from

2088
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 2: draft season. We've got plenty of time to talk about

2089
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 2: that aspect of it. But the big question back to

2090
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,719
Speaker 2: the game on Sunday. Who knows the assignment. The players

2091
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 2: are gonna play hard, they're gonna try their best to win.

2092
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,880
Speaker 2: Max Crosby said earlier this week doesn't give a bleep

2093
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,799
Speaker 2: about the top overall pick, and as a player he shouldn't,

2094
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 2: but you know who does, Mark Davis, John spy Tech

2095
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:49,519
Speaker 2: the GM in Vegas, Tom Brady, Pete Carroll for the Giants,

2096
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:51,680
Speaker 2: it's Joe Shane and the Marrow family. In fact, the

2097
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:53,880
Speaker 2: Raider Brass gives so much of a bleep about that

2098
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 2: draft pick. They sit in masx Crosby home. Or if

2099
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 2: they told him he was being benched and he decided

2100
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 2: to get up and go home on his own. Ruh,

2101
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 2: brock Bowers, that happened. It was reported earlier by Jay Glazer,

2102
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 2: and then Pete Carroll confirmed it out of his own mouth,

2103
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:08,559
Speaker 2: had his press conference on Friday afternoon. Oh my god,

2104
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,479
Speaker 2: brock Bowers has been shut down for the season. Coldon Miller,

2105
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,679
Speaker 2: their best offensive linean who's been out since Week four,

2106
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 2: likely healthy enough to play, Probably gonna be out too.

2107
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 2: So look, won't be surprising if other certain players get

2108
01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 2: quote unquote nicked up during the game, sit out the

2109
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,879
Speaker 2: second half, maybe have their snapcount monitor. I'm not suggesting

2110
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 2: this is an old crooked cop bit. You know what

2111
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:31,799
Speaker 2: they tell you they pulled you over because your tailight

2112
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 2: is out, and you say, what do you mean, No

2113
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 2: it's not, and then they break it and says, yeah,

2114
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 2: it looks like it to me. I'm not saying they

2115
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,519
Speaker 2: have to go that far, but you know, maybe Mike

2116
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 2: Kafka walks over to deck to Lawrence in the third quarter, says, hey, man,

2117
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 2: I know this. You're limping out there a little bit.

2118
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 2: Let's scale you back some of these xt couple of drives.

2119
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,320
Speaker 2: Why don't you sit on the bench. Ashon gents starts

2120
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,680
Speaker 2: breaking off runs like he did against Houston last week

2121
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 2: at him, Yeah, maybe you pull them to the side

2122
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 2: and said, man, he've been running your ass off out there.

2123
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 2: A good effort. I know it's only halfway through the

2124
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,080
Speaker 2: third quarter, but I'll take a little load off. Sit

2125
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,760
Speaker 2: on the bench. Here's my tie, kickoff, kick up your

2126
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 2: legs a little bit.

2127
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,679
Speaker 3: You're not going to the Pro Bowl, but here's my time.

2128
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 3: Why not.

2129
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 2: Look and for those who are saying that I'm advocating tanking,

2130
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 2: I said no such thing. All I said was know

2131
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 2: the assignment. Giants, Raiders know the assignment. And so far

2132
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:18,280
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Front office seems to have done their part.

2133
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 3: They're gonna out tank the Giants. I mean the Raiders.

2134
01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,840
Speaker 3: They are pros at this. They say they don't have

2135
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 3: to try very hard to be Yeah, that's the thing.

2136
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 3: Roger Goodell, what are the signs that these teams are

2137
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 3: actually trying to lose. When they lose all the time,

2138
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 3: how can you prove it when they suck all the time?

2139
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 3: All right, my under the microscope. I'm gonna piggyback off

2140
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 3: something you talked about earlier for me, parody in the

2141
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:47,600
Speaker 3: league is under the microscope. The Eagles are currently the

2142
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:52,960
Speaker 3: only division winner from last year currently leading their division

2143
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:56,000
Speaker 3: again going into Week seventeen. Right, it could be just

2144
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,840
Speaker 3: the second time since realignment back in two thousand and

2145
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 3: two we only get one repeat division winner. The other

2146
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:06,680
Speaker 3: time was in twenty eleven, where the Patriots were the

2147
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,719
Speaker 3: only team to repeat as division champs in the league

2148
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 3: in the sorry ass AFC East back then. Now Tampa

2149
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 3: Bay or the Rams or Houston could still win their

2150
01:43:18,720 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 3: divisions like they did last season. But it's interesting seeing

2151
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 3: all the turnover in the league year to year where

2152
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:28,080
Speaker 3: we try to project out and make predictions heading into

2153
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 3: the season based off a lot of stuff that occurred

2154
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 3: last season. When it's a week to week league, no

2155
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 3: one's ever as good or as bad as they just

2156
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 3: performed the week before except the Raiders.

2157
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:41,599
Speaker 2: The Raiders suck.

2158
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:45,680
Speaker 3: We try to act like we're smart. We do these predictions.

2159
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 3: We tell you we're smart. When they're correct. We knew

2160
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 3: it all along. But the truth is a lot of

2161
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 3: it's just straight luck, which is why if I lose

2162
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 3: to Kevin and two on two off, I won't even

2163
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 3: feel bad about it, because it's just a stupid lip

2164
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:01,600
Speaker 3: of the coin. Anyways.

2165
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but if you win, what happens, well then well,

2166
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:08,679
Speaker 2: if you're a genius, I'm Brandon laying all your scouting

2167
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 2: insights and all all your insider information ended up working

2168
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:12,680
Speaker 2: out in your favor, working out for you.

2169
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 3: I see, it's two for the money. Then I knew

2170
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 3: everything all along. Right, that's my under the microscope take parody.

2171
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 2: Hey, I get it. We have one final category to go.

2172
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 2: What is it there, Mark? What do you got? Redemption round? Yes?

2173
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:30,719
Speaker 2: Who's looking to bounce back from last week? And honestly,

2174
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 2: Adam for this one, I'll keep it short and sweet.

2175
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,679
Speaker 2: I'm going with the La Rams out as it might sound,

2176
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 2: I think the Rams losing to Seattle last week was

2177
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:39,200
Speaker 2: a bit of a blessing in disguise. You hear all

2178
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 2: the time about how really good teams stand a benefit

2179
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 2: from losing a game late in the year as a

2180
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 2: way to sort of, you know, reset themselves. As they

2181
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 2: get ready for the postseason, maybe fix some issues that

2182
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 2: have been plaguing them for a little bit. Well more

2183
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 2: than anything that forces, you know, the Rams to look

2184
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:54,880
Speaker 2: at their special teams. And that's exactly what they did.

2185
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 2: They fired their special teams coordinator Chase Blackburn last week,

2186
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 2: something Sean McVay has never done, has never fired an

2187
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 2: assistant coach midseason. But it had been so bad. I mean,

2188
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 2: they lost that Eagle game because they couldn't get a

2189
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 2: snap and miss the field goals, the punters drop. It

2190
01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:11,120
Speaker 2: was all over the place all season long. Their biggest

2191
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 2: achilles heel has been their special teams. Now you make

2192
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:16,880
Speaker 2: a change this late in the season. How big of

2193
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 2: a difference is it going to make? I don't know,

2194
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 2: but it certainly can't be any worse than it has

2195
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 2: been to this point in time. As good as they've been,

2196
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:25,720
Speaker 2: the special teams we know can really change a lot

2197
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 2: of things now, So it I mean, look at that

2198
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 2: what happened last week and that the Rashisha he punt returned,

2199
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 2: I think changed the momentum of that entire game and

2200
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 2: allowed Seattle to come back and win.

2201
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:37,560
Speaker 3: To me, it's I have all this data, I have

2202
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 3: all this evidence all season long. I'm not going to

2203
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 3: go into the playoffs and let this be the thing

2204
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 3: that loses me that game, because I already.

2205
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 2: Knew that could have happened, right, So go in and

2206
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 2: make a change now, and you know, see see exactly

2207
01:45:50,680 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 2: what happens. We'll find out. But the Falcons present a solid,

2208
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:56,040
Speaker 2: get right game for the Rams here. I fully expect

2209
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 2: him to cover that. I think it's up. The spread

2210
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 2: is up to eight now at last check. Whether it

2211
01:46:00,439 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 2: was seven, whether it's eight, I think they're gonta dominating

2212
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 2: victory over Atlanta Monday Night football.

2213
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 3: All right, my redemption round pick I might be looking

2214
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 3: for some redemption after my prediction that Denver was going

2215
01:46:11,439 --> 01:46:14,000
Speaker 3: to cover the three points or whatever it was last

2216
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 3: week at home against Jacksonville. I've been a hater. I've

2217
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 3: been waiting for Jacksonville to turn into a pumpkin, the

2218
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 3: hate to flow through you, and waiting and waiting. But

2219
01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 3: instead they've turned into a team with a chance to

2220
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,760
Speaker 3: win the number one seed in the AFC. After the

2221
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 3: beatdown they put on the Denver Broncos, winning by two touchdowns,

2222
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:39,000
Speaker 3: it reminded me a little bit of a famous playoff

2223
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 3: upset from nineteen ninety six when the then second year

2224
01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 3: franchise expansion team Jaguars, with Mark Brunell, Jimmy Smith, Keenan McCardell,

2225
01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 3: Tony Bissell blocking, they went to Mile High and upset

2226
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:54,600
Speaker 3: what some thought was the best team in football in

2227
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 3: the thirteen and three number one seeded Denver Broncos, who

2228
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:01,479
Speaker 3: were fourteen points favorites in that game.

2229
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 2: Is Fred Taylor on that team too?

2230
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,680
Speaker 3: A little bit before it yet he got there I

2231
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 3: think in ninety nine, But this wasn't that. It wasn't

2232
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:12,919
Speaker 3: that big of an upset, but it made me consider

2233
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:16,560
Speaker 3: for the first time just how far these Jaguars could go.

2234
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 3: They really only have one bad loss. It happened early

2235
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 3: in the season when they gave away that game to

2236
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 3: the Bengals where Joe Burrow went down and somehow they

2237
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,719
Speaker 3: lost to Jake Browning even though he threw three picks.

2238
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 3: Outside that. It's losses to the Seahawks, the Rams, and

2239
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 3: the Texans. They've won six in a row. They're at

2240
01:47:35,720 --> 01:47:38,719
Speaker 3: Indy on Sunday, then they close out against the Titans

2241
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 3: at home, so they're probably finished in thirteen and four.

2242
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 3: That's on the table at least Denver. There's still a

2243
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:51,200
Speaker 3: game up on them. Obviously, they beat Case, then they

2244
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:54,120
Speaker 3: get the Chargers at home to close things out. But

2245
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 3: if they tie with Denver, of course the Jaguars have

2246
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 3: the head to head tiebreak now because they beat him

2247
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 3: in Denver. The Patriots they're also a game up on

2248
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:08,160
Speaker 3: them with the Jets on Sunday and then Miami at home.

2249
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 3: But it looks like it worst. If the Jags don't

2250
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 3: totally fall apart, they have a great chance of being

2251
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 3: at least the three seed, but most probability calculators have

2252
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 3: them around a fifteen percent chance to still be the

2253
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:26,400
Speaker 3: one seed. They just need Denver to slip up New

2254
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,640
Speaker 3: England to lose a game too. They went out, they

2255
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 3: got it. They won four games last year. The Jaguars

2256
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 3: they drafted Travis Hunter, who's been out for months now.

2257
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,200
Speaker 3: I don't really know how they're doing this, but I

2258
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 3: saw this from their defensive end, Trayvon Walker. He said

2259
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 3: on a radio show or something quote, everyone's going to

2260
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 3: try to hop on this bandwagon. Now, we don't want

2261
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 3: nobody stay where you're at. If everyone but us excuse

2262
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 3: my language, mom, dad, and but if everybody but us.

2263
01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 3: I think that's pretty cool that he added the butt

2264
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 3: us in there. When Tupac was screaming f the world

2265
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 3: that like includes himselves. So Trey von Walker here made

2266
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:17,639
Speaker 3: that distinction. He wants everyone to know. It's if everyone

2267
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:18,320
Speaker 3: but us.

2268
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, look, we've ever given love

2269
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:22,640
Speaker 2: to the Jacksonville Jaguars, but is anybody jumping on their

2270
01:49:22,720 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 2: bandwagon per se?

2271
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2272
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 2: There's people coming out of the whowork all of a sudden,

2273
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 2: you know, throwing on Trevor Lawrence Jersey's left and right.

2274
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 3: I still think they could easily lose their first playoff game.

2275
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 2: Like it's probably just because of the stigma they carried

2276
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:36,600
Speaker 2: into the season because you didn't expect them to be

2277
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 2: where they are. But based on how they played this year,

2278
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 2: would not surprise me in the least bit if they

2279
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:41,880
Speaker 2: made it to the super Bowl, not at all.

2280
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 3: I don't trust Trevor Lawrence enough.

2281
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:45,120
Speaker 2: I understand. I get it.

2282
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 3: I totally get their Maybe it's the face warped looking fabio.

2283
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but I don't like it.

2284
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 2: Their super Bowl os. By the way, there are plus

2285
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 2: nine thousand coming into the season somebody put a what Yeah,

2286
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 2: they were ninety to one, ninety to one. It's over nine.

2287
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 2: Somebody somewhere, oh puts, as Rob Parker would say, put

2288
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 2: a couple of shekels on the Jaguars to win the

2289
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl before the season start.

2290
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:13,560
Speaker 3: One I Jimmy Smith did it.

2291
01:50:13,840 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 2: No, it's not very possible. All right, all right, that's

2292
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 2: the NFL six pack.

2293
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 3: Mark.

2294
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:21,040
Speaker 2: Let's get to the college football forecast. Here will fast.

2295
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: College football forecast.

2296
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 2: With f and I'm not going to forecast meeting less

2297
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 2: bowl games coming up, and we can maybe get deeper

2298
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 2: into that in our New Year's Eve special show there,

2299
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,160
Speaker 2: Adam when we sit in for Big Ben Mallard's right

2300
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 2: out to that coming up next week.

2301
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:38,719
Speaker 3: That's coming up on the Wednesday into Thursday.

2302
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 2: Yes, so that will be New Year's Eve night slash

2303
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 2: New Year's Day early day for a lot of people

2304
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 2: out there. So that'll be a fun show.

2305
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 3: I got to put like some kazoo sound effects into

2306
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 3: the instant reflay machine for that one. We got to

2307
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:50,920
Speaker 3: make it special.

2308
01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be our first foray into the Maller militia.

2309
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 2: Please be kind, but so, but right now, let's talk

2310
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 2: about because Kyle Whittingham, obviously, I guess, seemingly came out

2311
01:50:59,920 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 2: of nowhere, though I guess I should have put some

2312
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 2: put a shekel or to myself on him getting the

2313
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 2: Michigan job. Like Adam mentioned, I slept on that one.

2314
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:09,120
Speaker 3: I don't know that guy said it, and I didn't

2315
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 3: feel like going through the needle in the haystack to

2316
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 3: find it, even though typically I would like to point

2317
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:17,679
Speaker 3: out how smart I was, was probably just a throwaway

2318
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 3: comment honestly that maybe they go after Kyle whitting I

2319
01:51:21,800 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 3: don't know. It's interesting, but I think culture wise in

2320
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 3: philosophy wise is a pretty great match with the physicality

2321
01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:30,880
Speaker 3: perfect fit.

2322
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,000
Speaker 2: The way that his teams play is right in line

2323
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 2: with how Michigan wants to play. Tough, physical might not

2324
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:41,439
Speaker 2: be always pretty offensively at times, but gonna be good

2325
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 2: defensively upfront, gonna be good offensively upfront. And the big thing,

2326
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 2: Bryce underwo their freshman quarterback who was up and down

2327
01:51:47,640 --> 01:51:50,639
Speaker 2: a bit this past season but has really really good

2328
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 2: talent and potential, entered the transfer portal. Now that you

2329
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 2: have a legit coach like Kyle Whittingham coming into the program,

2330
01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 2: you can only hope if you're a Michigan fan, that

2331
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 2: he they are finding way that coach Bryce Underwood to

2332
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:04,599
Speaker 2: come back, And it would not surprise me whatsoever if

2333
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:06,839
Speaker 2: this is like a turn. And by the way, Michigan

2334
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 2: was only what there were nine to three, So in

2335
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 2: an expanded playoff situation, they're knocking on the door. If

2336
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 2: this was a sixteen team playoff, they're right there, right

2337
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 2: in the mix on the bubble. So who's to say

2338
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 2: even this past season for their standards that you would

2339
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 2: call necessarily mediocre. I mean, who's to say they can't

2340
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 2: come back and be in the colleg football playoff next year?

2341
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:26,880
Speaker 2: There's no reason to think that they can't do that

2342
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 2: with winning him in his first year at the Helm.

2343
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:32,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd probably put like a sixty percent chance

2344
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 3: they are in the playoff if they get Underwood back.

2345
01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 3: Here's the number one recruit by everybody last season nationally,

2346
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 3: and we'll probably get him back. I know he didn't play,

2347
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 3: he's a freshman.

2348
01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am. One problem is you can't hold him

2349
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 2: to the same standard as guys like Trevor Lawrence or

2350
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 2: Andrew Look, I mean those guys are like those are anomalies,

2351
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 2: and so.

2352
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are generational guys.

2353
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna find guys like that at all times.

2354
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 2: But he showed enough progress last year to make you

2355
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,759
Speaker 2: think that if he comes back another year at Michigan

2356
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 2: with a good offensive staff which he will have, with

2357
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 2: a great head coach which he will have in Kyle Whittingham,

2358
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 2: I think this guy's a limit from Michigan. That's incredible

2359
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 2: how they have been through so much turmoil these last

2360
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:15,519
Speaker 2: couple of years. The hardball, the Connor Stallion sign stealing stuff,

2361
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: the hardball, cheeseburger thing where he has recruits, all the

2362
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 2: satellite camp stuff where they were on probation for he

2363
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 2: gets hit with the show called Sharon Moore has his

2364
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 2: issues these last few weeks, and they basically, I think

2365
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 2: I said this to Petros earlier, they basically failed up

2366
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 2: like you upgraded at the head coaching position. No disrespect

2367
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 2: to Sharon Moore was dealing with obviously a lot of

2368
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:39,599
Speaker 2: personal issues. But you put Charoon Moore and Kyle Whittingham

2369
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 2: next to each other, there's no question who you're picking

2370
01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 2: in any shape or form. At that point in time.

2371
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 2: They have failed upward, and to a certain degree, I'd

2372
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 2: say the same thing about Penn State, who had no

2373
01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 2: idea what the hell they were doing after they fired

2374
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,720
Speaker 2: James Franklin, chasing their tail left and right. Nobody wanted

2375
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 2: the job, and all of a sudden they look into

2376
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 2: Matt Campbell.

2377
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 3: They stepped on the rake, but like, I don't know

2378
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 3: the plastic. It was an older ray happy Gilmour Almurdy

2379
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:05,560
Speaker 3: was like throwing it against a tree or something like that.

2380
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:08,720
Speaker 2: I thought it was some side durable. I thoughtually going

2381
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:10,920
Speaker 2: to sideshow Bob reference where he just step kept stepping

2382
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 2: on rakes no matter what direction he turned in. Yeah,

2383
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:14,840
Speaker 2: let stuff on the face.

2384
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 3: It comes up roses for them. They land on their

2385
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 3: feet every time. The only thing I'd be worried about

2386
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 3: is while they're trying to pull Underwood out of the portal,

2387
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 3: what if they only get his lower half and now

2388
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 3: he's definitely just running quarterback.

2389
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 2: Well, look, Kyle Whittingham has won with a lot less. Yeah,

2390
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 2: he's one. I won't call it in episode, but he's

2391
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:38,840
Speaker 2: one with gotten with not the greatest talent at the

2392
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 2: quarterback position at times at the University of Utah. That's

2393
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:43,880
Speaker 2: how good he's been. And if I could use this

2394
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 2: as a referendum on the USC football program too. Petrols

2395
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 2: took his shots. I'll take mine too, because Adam hu

2396
01:54:49,240 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 2: asked Petrols why they've struggled so much over the past

2397
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 2: forty years or so save for the Pete Carroll era,

2398
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 2: and a lot of it points to the same leadership

2399
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 2: that Petrols was talking about. They reportedly could have had

2400
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 2: Chris Peterson, who's not analyst for Fox remember when they

2401
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 2: were willing, But they were weren't willing to make the

2402
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 2: concessions for him, so he went to Washington That same offseason,

2403
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:10,240
Speaker 2: Sam goes for Winningham. Rumor has it he wanted the

2404
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 2: USC job in twenty sixteen, but allegedly the people in charge,

2405
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 2: Lynn Swan, the ad and Max Nicky as the President,

2406
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 2: wanted to keep the status quote, didn't want to bring

2407
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 2: in somebody from outside the family who might rock the

2408
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 2: boat and do things their own way, so they decided

2409
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 2: to remove the interim attack from Clay Hilton and give

2410
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 2: him the job.

2411
01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:27,440
Speaker 3: They chose poorly in like four different forks in the

2412
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 3: road type of moments over the last forty five years

2413
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 3: or so, and.

2414
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 2: That's why they find themselves in the situation they are now.

2415
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 3: They also stumbled into Pete they did.

2416
01:55:35,680 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are like their eighteenth choice. All right, it

2417
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 2: is F and A on FSR coming up next, It

2418
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 2: is two on two off, Well Adam make his run

2419
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 2: for redemption here these last two weeks in the NFL season,

2420
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 2: we'll find out. FNA on FSR don't listening to Fox

2421
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:51,800
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2422
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2423
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:55,160
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2424
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:04,320
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2425
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2426
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2429
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2430
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2431
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2432
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2433
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2434
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2435
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 3: App mark What do we got?

2436
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 1: Two on two?

2437
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 3: Are all right?

2438
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 2: Are we looking at him?

2439
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:41,400
Speaker 3: This is interesting? This hadn't happened yet. And I'm surprised

2440
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 3: it hadn't happened yet.

2441
01:56:42,920 --> 01:56:43,600
Speaker 2: What do you mean.

2442
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 3: Somebody finally pushed with a call. So I went two

2443
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 3: and two last week, yep, and you went one and

2444
01:56:53,160 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 3: two because your other one was a push.

2445
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 2: Right, it was technically I went one, two and one.

2446
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if we want to do ties in

2447
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 2: there or not, but it messes up the math.

2448
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 3: This is easier, okay, fair enough. So on the season,

2449
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 3: I'm thirty one and thirty three, Kevin, there's a disgustingly

2450
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:16,360
Speaker 3: fake looking record of thirty What are.

2451
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:18,760
Speaker 2: You saying, I'm cooking the books here or something? What's

2452
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 2: wrong with you? Who could be.

2453
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 3: Thirty five and twenty eight in this NFL season?

2454
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 2: Joe Klass.

2455
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 3: Someone's getting roasted.

2456
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 2: Some would say, a genius said him.

2457
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't know SBP's getting killed. I'm pretty sure Bill

2458
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 3: Simmons ever released his record, it would be under five

2459
01:57:36,880 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 3: hundred and Kevin is killing it.

2460
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,320
Speaker 1: Check out the Big Brain on Brad.

2461
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 3: But it ain't over yet. There's two weeks left, okay, Oh,

2462
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 3: there's always time.

2463
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:48,360
Speaker 2: There's time today.

2464
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:51,959
Speaker 3: I got to don't get comfortable. You don't get too comfortable.

2465
01:57:52,160 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 3: I don't get complacent out there. Okay, So in two

2466
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 3: on two off, people, we do things a little bit differently.

2467
01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:01,320
Speaker 3: You can't just pick any games. You have to pick

2468
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 3: two games on favorites and two games where you're taking

2469
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 3: the underdogs. So the on is betting on a favorite.

2470
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 3: You want to give me an on.

2471
01:58:12,320 --> 01:58:14,440
Speaker 2: Kevin Yep, I'm going with the Rams. I checked earlier.

2472
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 2: I said it was seven, that actually moved up to eight,

2473
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 2: and I'm still taking. I'm taking the Rams minus eight

2474
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 2: over the Falcons Monday Night Football, Atlanta playing out the string.

2475
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 2: I do love jar Robinson, but I think the Rams

2476
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 2: on a mission to turn things around. I mentioned they

2477
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 2: fire their special teams coach. They're still gunning potentially for

2478
01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 2: that top seed and for the for the top billing

2479
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 2: in the NFC West. So I'm going with the Rams

2480
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 2: to dominate the Falcons minus eight.

2481
01:58:37,440 --> 01:58:40,320
Speaker 3: I like that one. I like it so much I

2482
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:43,640
Speaker 3: would like to take it, but well, that's not gonna

2483
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:44,720
Speaker 3: help me chase you down.

2484
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 2: This is true.

2485
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do this thing where I'm just gonna

2486
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:49,920
Speaker 3: kick a field goal at the end of the game

2487
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 3: to make it look more respectable or something. But I

2488
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:55,120
Speaker 3: have no chance to win I'm gonna try to go

2489
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 3: for the win.

2490
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 2: You also do it to cover the spread, like Pete

2491
01:58:57,560 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 2: Carroll did a few weeks ago.

2492
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pussy willow coaches that make moves like that disgusting.

2493
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 3: All right, My first on another team with everything to

2494
01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 3: play for, Pittsburgh minus three at Cleveland. I like the

2495
01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 3: way they've been playing. I like the way Aaron Rodgers

2496
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 3: has been throwing it. Mike Tomlin, he's got all the

2497
01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 3: momentum again in another winning season. Cleveland. It's interesting, but

2498
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:30,040
Speaker 3: Shador hasn't really put it together enough yet. Nope, Pittsburgh

2499
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:32,840
Speaker 3: starting to play better. They can see the finish line

2500
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:34,360
Speaker 3: they cover.

2501
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 2: Okay, you're o. They're on my other one. I'm going

2502
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:39,280
Speaker 2: with the Green Bay Packers over the Baltimore Ravens. Green

2503
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 2: Bay favor by three. Oh did I steal your pick

2504
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 2: there at them?

2505
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:42,600
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2506
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 2: The battle of the backups come on Malik Willis and

2507
01:59:45,320 --> 01:59:48,840
Speaker 2: most likely Snoop Huntley with Lamar Jackson being listed as doubtful.

2508
01:59:48,880 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 2: I know the Packers essentially have nothing to play for,

2509
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 2: although they can still technically win their division, although it's

2510
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:57,440
Speaker 2: an outside shot at that point in time. So h

2511
01:59:57,480 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 2: and Baltimore literally has to win this game. It's a

2512
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:01,040
Speaker 2: must win for them. But I like the Green Bay

2513
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:03,640
Speaker 2: Packers over Baltimore. Milik Willis has looked good, so I'm

2514
02:00:03,680 --> 02:00:05,200
Speaker 2: taking the best Packers to cover the three.

2515
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:08,960
Speaker 3: Well, I gotta take something different, then, Yeah, go ahead,

2516
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:10,960
Speaker 3: because I've been putting this terrible position.

2517
02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 2: Or someone say you put yourself in the same But

2518
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that I was cheated. Okay, we both

2519
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 2: know it. I don't know that.

2520
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:21,520
Speaker 3: But all right, all right, before I get to that

2521
02:00:21,760 --> 02:00:23,720
Speaker 3: on because now I got to come up with something new.

2522
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:26,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with an off here and no stealing it.

2523
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 3: Bears plus three and a half NSF on the road

2524
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 3: against the forty nine ers. What's that look on your

2525
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:35,080
Speaker 3: face for?

2526
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:38,080
Speaker 2: Because I hat Chicago covering the three. I guess the

2527
02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:42,400
Speaker 2: forty nine ers has my off. So and I'm not vacillating.

2528
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:45,800
Speaker 3: Because I don't have to whow so playing with the

2529
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 3: lead here, that's right. I just want to sit on

2530
02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:48,480
Speaker 3: it now.

2531
02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:50,000
Speaker 2: If you want, I can give you my other off.

2532
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:50,800
Speaker 3: Got somebody you can.

2533
02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 2: It's a family show. What the Colts that cover the

2534
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:58,000
Speaker 2: six point spread over the Jacksonville Jaguars. I think they

2535
02:00:58,120 --> 02:00:59,880
Speaker 2: keep that game close? All right?

2536
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:03,680
Speaker 3: That's my other off Texans plus one and a half

2537
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 3: on the road against the Chargers. How about that?

2538
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 2: I like it, you know if florided with that one

2539
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:10,760
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier, but I didn't take it.

2540
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 3: They got something to play for.

2541
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:12,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

2542
02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 3: Why won't my page loads so I can put in

2543
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:20,480
Speaker 3: one more pick here? I need another on. I need

2544
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 3: it an on and I needed to win for me.

2545
02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 2: You want to take the Patriots minus fourteen against the Jets.

2546
02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:28,320
Speaker 3: Seahawks minus seven in Carolina.

2547
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 2: Over your Panthers? Look at that, of course, always always

2548
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 2: going after your home top Panthers. Thank you guys for

2549
02:01:36,280 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 2: listening Project to Night All coming up next here on

2550
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:40,520
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Thanks Lee, Thanks Mark,