WEBVTT - Nick Hardy 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.000 Today's podcast is brought to you by B dratty our 0:00:04.040 --> 0:00:07.600 friends over at B dratty. It's cold well Knights is here. Well, 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:10.119 what's your favorite B dratty item you got? 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:12.559 I mean, how can you go wrong with the crew 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.120 neck sweater. It's the best thing that they've gotten the shop. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.320 The sweatshirt. You like the sweatshirt? 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.439 Oh yeah, front pocket. I mean, you're lounging around watching 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.880 coffee golf in the morning. You got Hawaii coming up, 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.520 You're gonna be sitting around. You need something comfy, something 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:32.080 warm looking out of the snow. 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You can get the crew neck 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.280 on our website, the Fridagg dot com. We've got a 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:10.360 few and some random sizes left, but otherwise you can 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:14.440 go get that sweatshirt on bdradty dot com. Welcome back 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.280 to another edition of the Fridagg Podcast. Today I am 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:23.000 joined by Nick Hardy. Nick is a former All American 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.880 from the University of Illinois. He was actually up on 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.480 the podcast a couple of years ago, I think is 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:32.560 episode nineteen or thereabouts. He was on with his teammate 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:36.639 Dylan Meyer. So Nick is just got through the second 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.840 stage of Q school. He's obviously a pretty high profile 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.240 young player who will be playing on the Corn Ferry 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.840 Tour next year, and a local from the Chicago area. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.200 So I've gotten to watch Nick play so many times 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.919 grown up from when he was thirteen. It's been pretty 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:59.000 cool to see a local kid really develop into one 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:00.960 of the best young players UH in the game. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.200 So here's our podcast with Nick Hardy. I miss a green, 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.920 for example, I'm already upset. When I find my ball 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.160 in the bunker, I'm really upset. And when I find 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:10.640 my ball in. 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.799 A frid Egg Frida egg, the dreaded Frida egg, Friday, 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.119 Frida Egg, Brian Egg, Frida Egg, Bride egg. 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:16.320 Lie. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:42.079 I'm about ready to run off the gump. What do 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.480 you do in your downtime when you're not playing golf? 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.840 Oh, man, I mean not much, Honestly. I like to 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.160 I like to work out, you know, I just like 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.400 to chill. Quite honestly. I like to chill because I 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.840 spend spend a lot of time, you know, at golf, 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.080 and just because I love it. I'm always practicing, I'm 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.560 always playing. But you know, I like to work out 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:03.320 and I like to chill. I like to I love 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.480 fantasy football. I love the Bears, you know, I mean, 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.520 I love tough season. I set aside all my Sunday 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:14.080 afternoons to watch football. But besides that, I mean, you know, 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.800 I'm pretty pretty, you know, blanned. 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:22.080 Besides that, going from college to professional golf where college 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.840 you have a lot of built in distractions to golf. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:29.079 You know, professional golf golf all the time. What's been 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.679 the toughest thing about that? Have you had troubles? 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:33.960 Right, No, there's no doubt. I mean my senior year 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.080 of college, I remember thinking like, okay, I'm going to 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.040 be making this transition next year, and I'm going to 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.720 have a lot more downtime than I do right now, 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:43.840 you know, just based on having you know, teammates at 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.200 hand and being able to you know, be competitive them 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:50.200 with them. Day to day practice schedule, workout schedule, everything's 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.840 planned for you, from class to studying. You know, everything's 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:57.200 you have your own planned everything out for you, and 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.000 you know the next year, I would have to really 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.440 just make my own plan and be cautious that I'm 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.160 not trying to overdo it too because knowing me, I'll 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.040 probably want to overdo working on the game and just 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.640 being there too much. But it's important to build you know, 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.640 outside hobbies and have a routine day to day that 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:19.599 you're comfortable with. You're making sure you're not kind of 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:23.080 overdoing it. And I think I've found the happy medium. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.880 I mean, I kind of really, honestly, it's been It's 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.000 been nice because I just really have slowed myself down 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.120 on a day to day basis. College you're kind of 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:34.479 running from class to practice, to lunch to you know, 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.680 you name it. You got something to do, and now 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.640 I just kind of take my time. I notice that 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.359 I'm moving a lot slower day to day, which is 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.320 better for me. I notice I drive slower, I eat slower. 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.480 I you know, I do everything a lot slower than 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.560 I did in college. And I think that's a great 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:53.120 That's honestly a much better way to live. But uh, 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.039 I think that's really what I've noticed. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.680 Did it take time to figure out that you need 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:58.360 to slow down? 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.880 No, I guess it just sort of happened, you know, 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:05.200 it just kind of it just kind of just went 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.600 to float that way because I just had more time 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.080 and I was able to fill gaps by just getting 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:14.719 breakfast slowly every morning, or taking more time practicing over 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.479 you know, still being you know, effective with practice, but 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.719 having more time to do what I feel like I 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:20.200 need to do. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.240 You go down to Scottsdale in the winter, do you 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.720 do you stay with other guys playing or roommates or 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:27.000 do you. 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:31.000 Yeah, I stay with family friends. Actually, my caddie, Eric Marcus, 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.400 his parents live live out there and they have a 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.800 house in the DC Ranch Community. So I stayed with 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.120 them last winter, and I plan on doing so a 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.039 little bit this winter too. But I also have my 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.640 grandpa in Tucson, who I stayed with for a couple 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:47.080 of times. And then my my buddy's Charlie Dalllson's out there, 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.000 so I will stay with him a couple of times too. 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.760 But yeah, having family friends out there for now is 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.440 great for me because it's you know, I like to 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.560 be in Chicago and when it's nice and so it's 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.200 doesn't really make sense. I'm on the road in the 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.600 winter time when I want to be in Scots, so 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.200 it doesn't really make sense for me to have my 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:06.240 own place yet out there. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:08.919 Hopefully you're on the road all the time. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:10.960 Yes, hopefully I'm on the road all the time. 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.040 But you want to be and that's true. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:15.440 That's true. 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.080 The uh so you talked to when we talked last 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.520 time when you were still in school you were a 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:25.360 junior then and Illinois. You talked about how you work 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.640 really well with structure. How have you gone about building 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.360 structure now that you get to decide your structure? 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.839 Right, It's nice, you know when you're When I was 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.159 in college, especially having coach Small develop our own structure 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:42.040 in terms of practice, that was really nice, and having 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.520 you know, six or seven other guys being able to 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.880 compete against every single day was really nice. And now 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.839 now I start to realize how lucky I was to 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.560 have that just fit out and plan for me, because 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.200 you know, obviously I trusted Coach Small first and foremost 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:00.000 with with my practice, but with structure in my whole life, 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.279 because he really cared about us and we were doing 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.160 I knew I was doing the right things, and I 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:06.920 believed one hundred percent that I was doing the right 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.560 things in practice that would make myself successful on the course. 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.640 And now that you know I've spent four years at 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.120 school and learning from coach and learning from my teammates, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.440 I kind of know how to practice to get things 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.560 done and not just be there and just going through 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.560 the motions. So I try to do things that we 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.960 did at school in my structure practice and try to 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.760 complete things in practice and try to feel like I'm 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:32.080 getting things done in order to get that confidence, that 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.960 self belief instead of just kind of being there hitting balls, 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.960 going through the motions and whatnot. So having learned from 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.680 Coach Mall and being structured in practice at school, I've 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.240 been able to do things on my own, But not 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.200 having those teammates from day to day is the biggest difference. 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.400 Yeah, talk about the teammates. I think one of the 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.960 interesting things with college golf is that it's this team environment, 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.320 and I mean your guys's teams at Illinois, great players, 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.120 I mean Charlie Danielson who we were talking about earlier, 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:09.800 Thomas Deetree, Brian Campbell, Dylan Meyer, you know, guys that 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:14.440 are playing on PGA Tour, European Tour, having a lot 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:18.880 of success. What was it the practice environment? 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.840 Like right, yeah, No, coach made the practice environment extremely competitive, 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.920 Like every single day we were doing something to get 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:30.480 our competitive juice is flowing, you know like that, And 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.439 that's a great thing about our team though. Those guys 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.920 you named, every single one of them was super super 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.679 competitive and everyone hated losing in practice as much as 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:41.400 they did you know, on the course and in real competition. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.800 So that having that every day was such a good environment. 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:49.960 And you know, now it's for me, I have different 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:53.520 guys that I do that with, but having those guys 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.280 at that those types of players at your disposal every day, 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.959 whether it be on the course or in that indoorpse 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.560 or outdoor facility, we're doing something to keep keep competitive. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:08.080 So you've kind of like as you've moved into professional golf. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.360 You've got a group of guys now that you have 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:14.360 similar competitiveness with when you're doing, when you're practicing, and 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:15.079 when you're playing. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.800 Yeah. So at the Merrick Club where I practice, you know, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.360 and I've been you know, lucky to practice for eight 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:24.720 years now. I practice with Patrick Flavin, a bunch Brian Orr, 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.680 my old high school teammate. They're both you know, up 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.520 and coming players who've just turned pro recently, and Patrick's 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.600 had success this year in Latin America Tour. So I mean, 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.920 we make each other better. We feed off each other, 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.280 for sure. There's no doubt that over the years we've 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:43.000 made each other better. And it's not we're not probably 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.400 doing similar things you know that we're doing at school 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.160 with Coach Small in terms of practicing competitively, but we're 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.720 on the golf course just as competitive. We could play 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.559 for a dollar and it'd be it'd be quiet out there. 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.559 Sometimes we would not be talking to each other, just 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.480 really competitive on the golf course. We don't want to 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.960 lose to each other. So that's what makes you better. 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.520 Though, What are your guys favorite games to play on 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:04.000 the course. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.239 If we got a foursome, we're always playing Scotch games 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.120 just too. On two. I'm sure many people were familiar 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.760 with Scotch games, but we would we would mix up 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.840 the teams randomly. We always played with Jim billd or two. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.120 They have pro Kepper Lakes And it's great playing at 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.360 Kepper Lakes too, because that course is very hard. It 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:25.440 can beat you up, especially the back nine. Uh yeah, 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:29.160 and so I mean it playing that course too has 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:31.760 made me better. So it's uh, it's quite a treat 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.080 to be able to play there too. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.520 Last year, you you missed out on on getting through 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.120 Q School stage two just by what the two shots one? Yeah, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.559 two shots two shots. And then you you didn't go 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.560 to play either Canada or Latin America. You kind of 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:53.320 did a lot of Mondays, some smaller events in Arizona. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:56.920 You got some exemptions. What was the decision did you 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:00.360 think about doing Latin America or Canada? Is there a 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:01.520 reason that you didn't do it? 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.640 Yeah, of course I did. I mean it was a 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:09.040 very tough decision. And I don't regret anything of what 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.040 I did the past year, and looking back on it, 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.960 I mean, the year couldn't have gone better. I failed 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.000 so many times. I mean I have three part of 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.120 the last two holes at Q School second stage last 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:24.120 year to miss by two. I missed the Cup. I 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.720 wanted Tory Pines and the sponsor exception I had. I 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.520 missed the Cup. I wanted Dominican Republic. I lost in 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:32.760 a four for three playoff to get in the waste management. 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:37.839 I missed a Cup. I wanted the US Open. I mean, 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.040 just making the cut is not my standard I set 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.920 for myself. But in order to have any success that 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.600 you want to have, you got to play the weekend. 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.360 And I mean, I couldn't be more thankful for those 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.560 experiences now. I mean, I've learned so much from those 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.400 experiences and I'll never forget the feelings I had after 0:11:56.440 --> 0:12:00.320 those tournaments. But it's just made me better. I know, 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.560 I know it for a fact. And not deciding, you know, 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.160 deciding not to go to Canada or Latin was a 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:10.079 hard decision for me because I knew I probably should 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:14.120 be playing events and getting those reps in. I didn't 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.160 know at the time though, I would have maybe three 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:19.240 three exemptions left, and I knew I was I would 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.720 be a great Monday qualifier and I ended up qualifying 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:25.040 for three webs and I had a sponsor exception in 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.360 one of them, and I knew that that was probably 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.440 a tough decision, and I knew many people wouldn't agree 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.360 with me for it, and I didn't care. I mean, 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:35.679 I didn't care what others thought about my decision. I 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.880 knew that I would I would kind of make my 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.839 own experiences and I would make my own opportunities as 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.520 I went. And I ended up having some success. I 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.360 mean I played in the US Open again, which is 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:48.920 another great experience. I won an APT event All Pro Tour. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:52.160 I mean I finished third in another one. I mean 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:56.880 I had some small moments of okay, I know, I 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.080 know I'm on the right track, which gave me good feelings. 0:12:59.760 --> 0:12:59.920 But. 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.880 Not playing. I probably didn't play in enough tournaments this year, 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:07.400 even though I probably still played in eighteen to twenty. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.120 At least, you know that decision was really hard, But 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.760 I don't regret any of it. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:18.400 Talk about golf, and I guess what you said. I 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.160 agree with a certain extent with the UH. When you 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:27.480 have near missus versus when everything's going good, like what 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.640 you're learning right from near misses. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.120 You learn way more when you go don't get the 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.440 things that you kind of desire for I feel like 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:38.840 if I had actually made the cut in all those 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.320 or barely squeaked in and played the weekend and whatever 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.320 I did, whatever I did, I mean, I wouldn't have 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.679 learned nearly as much as I did from just just 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.400 getting cut in the throat for those like five or 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.920 six heartbreaks. I mean, the standard I said for myself 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:53.640 is not just to make the cut. Let me get 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.680 this clear, but not playing the weekend, will you know, 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.440 it's enough to not make you successful at all. So 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.240 I just feel like, I mean, over and over again, 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:07.200 I definitely felt, you know, some sort of heartbreak this year. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.720 But I mean it's it's probably why I had success 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:13.360 last week at second stage, you know, and why it's 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.440 why I decided to go back to the same site 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.240 and try to do it all over again, you know. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:22.520 I mean those experiences I'll always look back to the 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:23.440 rest of my career, you know. 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:27.440 Yeah, I don't know. I think with life in general 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:31.520 and golf in general, and when you miss, when you 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.840 get it, it's like a teaching moment because then you 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:36.080 get back, and especially with golf, like you're never in 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.680 the same situation twice ever in golf I think that's 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.640 probably why it's the coolest game in the world, right 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:46.680 because you'll never hit the same shot ever again. 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.840 It'll be completely new another time. But but the thing is, 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.000 the things that you're feeling down this stretch are always 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.920 the same everything. Like that's a great thing about golf 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.960 is it's individual. So I mean, you may not have 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:00.600 the same physical things over and over again, but your 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.560 your mind and and your body and what you're feeling 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.000 will always be the same. And that's that's like the 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.480 tangible thing that you can always get better at is 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.520 how you control yourself out there. And I feel like 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:14.400 I am, in some ways am a slow learner and 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.600 I've always been that way. Every single level I've I've 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.440 kind of played at. It's taken me a little bit 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.920 of time to feel like I okay, I'm I'm ready 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.760 to really go now, you know, And I've i feel 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.320 like I've always been that way, And that's a great 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.200 thing about golf is like you just got to keep 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.120 getting better at learning how to handle yourself in those moments. 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:40.120 What particular aspect do you think has been the toughest 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:44.840 for you to to learn, Like in the moment. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.400 Honestly, it's just being able to control myself. Like I 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:53.000 am definitely more of a high strung competitive guy. And 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.160 you know, Coach Small right when I got to school, 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.280 he always talked about being able to like know what 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.680 level you play at your best at and everyone's different. Everyone, 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:04.680 like say you go a one to tenth scale on 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:09.040 like emotion and just anxiety. I'm definitely a higher anxiety person, 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:13.160 Like I am always probably riding at at eight. And 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.880 you got guys maybe like Brian Campbell, for example, He's 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.800 probably riding at a two. Like there are guys that 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.320 are just different in terms of like being able to 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.720 have to get themselves up for something or get themselves 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.040 down for something. And if you're if you're always at 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.200 a five, then then you're always probably lucky to be 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.720 that way. But for me, I always need to calm 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.680 myself down and and you know, find the right level 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:36.520 for myself, you know. 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:41.560 Yeah, I it's interesting. I think that golf is so 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:46.400 unique in this fact that like, if you're playing in 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.400 the NBA finals, everybody's amped, right, But in golf, you 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.960 have to play to your like personality, right, and it's 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:57.360 you can't try and be somebody you aren't right. You 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.560 can't look at you can't look at Brian Campbell and 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.360 be like, well, I just need to be like him, No, 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.400 because it would would not work for you. 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.639 No, No, it wouldn't. And and that's the that's the 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.320 crazy thing about it is you gotta be, you gotta 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.480 you gotta know yourself, you gotta know and that's your 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.200 trial and error, you know, just like anything. 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:17.440 But and that's that's probably where when you have things 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.800 not go your way, is when you learn more about 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.399 yourself than when things go You're. 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.800 Away for sure, for sure. I mean, when things are 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:27.000 going well, anyone can go out there and find the 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.679 right whatever. Because things are just going well, you're not 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.159 really like thinking about those things. But when you're driving 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:36.680 home from with a seven hour drive thinking about infestering 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.360 in your mind about how you just misplayed two shots 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:41.119 to miss the cup I want or one shot, you know, 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.479 then that's when you're really learning, Like you got plenty 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:47.680 of time to think about things when you fail, you know. 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:52.480 It's those drives. A few years ago, I've I was 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.240 playing a US mid am a qualifier and I was 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.520 playing well, and I finished double double and I was 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:00.320 in the middle fair way of both the whole and 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:04.159 I miss missed qualifying by one or two and I 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:07.960 was played in Indianapolis. I'm driving home and it was 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.040 just it was a four hour drive and I don't 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.840 remember anything from it because you know, you're just replaying 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:17.040 and it's just amazing when you have moment tournament golf. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.800 The drive home from a tournament, it is like the 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:24.520 craziest thing in the world because like you've left the world, yeah, essentially. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:29.280 And it's crazy because I mean, you you're just festering inside, 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.160 but you're you know, you're kind of driving and you're 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.160 just kind of in the zone. Your body, your your 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:36.479 mind's just like like driving for you. But you're just 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.960 festering about the things that you know maybe have gone wrong. 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.400 But on the other side of things, like when things 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.439 go well, like I've driven home three times making the 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.080 US Open for six hour drive and that's the best, 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:49.480 you know, best time in my life. One of those 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.520 drives was with Charlie Danielson and we were the one 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.560 of like two of the only four to qualify at 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.800 Springfield out of eighty guys, and we were driving home 0:18:57.800 --> 0:18:59.680 and that was the best drive of our lives. I mean, 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:03.120 like like it's just it can it can be. That's 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.080 a great thing about golf, though, you know it can be. 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.200 It's so high and low and I mean it's not 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:11.560 like you know, like you said, it's not like football 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:13.720 or basketball where you can just make things better by 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:17.879 trying harder. You know, it's just you gotta it's the 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:18.720 right temperament. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.320 Yeah, a lot of times if you try try less, 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:24.240 things turn exactly. 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:27.119 That's totally with golf and especially with putting. You know, 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:31.320 it's like like it's just like you gotta just let 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.919 things happens. You know. You just gotta control what you 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.159 can control only you know. 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:39.600 That's it's so true because you get especially if you're 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.440 playing like a scramble, people are like, oh, you gotta 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.840 make this, don't and it's like you never make that pot. No, 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.960 you can't try and make it. No, it's talk about it. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.600 Say you say you're over a big putt. You say 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.560 it's a match play match and you need to make 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:59.760 something like your mentality is the same for that pie 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:01.760 as any other putt, right. 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.199 For sure, I mean, And it just goes back to 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:10.440 like relying on your your routine, you know, and totally 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.760 just only controlling on on. You know what you can control, 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.360 and then that's not what's in front of you. Realistically, 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.919 everyone reads the putt, okay, I got the read, and 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:22.040 everyone just obsesses with the read. But what I control, 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.239