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Speaker 2: All right, So, as you guys know, Greg Bovino is

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Speaker 2: out of Minneapolis and Tom Homan has been brought in.

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Speaker 2: He has met with the governor and the mayor and

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Speaker 2: other stakeholders on the ground, and this morning he gave

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Speaker 2: a press conference in which he said a number of

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Speaker 2: rather interesting things. Let's go ahead and take a listen

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Speaker 2: to a bit of that.

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Speaker 4: I had a very good meeting Turner General General Alison,

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Speaker 4: and he has clarify for me at Keunty Jails may

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Speaker 4: notify Ice of the release dates of criminal public speak

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Speaker 4: customers upon the release, and let me tell you what that's.

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Speaker 4: I know people are a lot of concerned, but the

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Speaker 4: man power has been saying in law enforcement man power

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Speaker 4: looks many times before I've spent give us access to

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Speaker 4: the illegal and public and the safety and security of

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Speaker 4: the kre It's common sense. It's safer for the community,

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Speaker 4: it's safer for the agents, and they're safer for the aim.

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Speaker 4: Does anything happen to it just makes common sense. And

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Speaker 4: to the people that argue that we're welcoming, we want

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Speaker 4: victims and witnesses of crime that are here illegally to

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Speaker 4: feel safe to come the police without fear to work

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Speaker 4: with ice. We're not going to talk to the victim

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Speaker 4: witness the crime. There's no problem there. They should feel

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Speaker 4: safe to come to police and ask for help. All

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Speaker 4: we want is talk to the person that local and

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Speaker 4: state law enforcement authorities a lot in the jail set.

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Speaker 4: They chose the locked this personnel. That's where we want

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Speaker 4: to talk to the public. So that argument is that

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Speaker 4: the victim, what is the crime? Thanks crap.

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Speaker 2: So a couple of noteworthy things there. He's saying he's

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Speaker 2: going to get more cooperation from local officials in terms

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Speaker 5: And the other thing he.

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Speaker 2: Says there, Sager is you know, he really portrays it. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we don't want to of course, we wouldn't do anything

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Speaker 2: with the victims of crimes. Meanwhile, we see of course

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Speaker 2: people who don't have criminal records, so very dissonant from

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Speaker 2: Let me play one more part and i'll get your

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Speaker 2: reaction to this as well, where he indicates that as

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Speaker 2: going to do a quote unquote draw down. Let's listen

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Speaker 4: This is common sense cooperation that allows to draw down

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: You know, there have been thousands of federal agents which

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Speaker 2: And to put things in perspective, the local police force,

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Speaker 3: Well, there were a couple other comments because it's kind

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Speaker 3: The direct shot right there at Greg Bavino, who specifically

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Speaker 3: Another big one that he said is I'm not here

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Speaker 3: a highly noteworthy thing. And as you said, it had

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Speaker 1: But we're here to cooperate.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we somewhat disagree with Minnesota, but he said draw

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Speaker 3: his job, Kirsty Gnome not appearing to have authority over

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Speaker 3: these missions. He's saying that he is another thing that

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Speaker 3: has not taken as much notice as he continues to

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Speaker 3: emphasize targeted. Now, let's be clear, Ice has always claimed

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Speaker 3: saying we're going to be targeting specifically criminals, people you know,

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Speaker 3: As I said, it's kind of hard to parse because

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Speaker 3: seen whether it is true or not. However, if it

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Speaker 3: change in their strategy. I do think we should also know,

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Speaker 3: since Alex Prettes has has killed, we have not seen

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Speaker 3: a lot of viral videos that have been coming out

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Speaker 3: There have been not nearly the same level generally since

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Speaker 3: Homan has been put into charge. There was a memo

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Speaker 3: that kind of contradicts a previous memo. There's also so

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Speaker 3: much information warfare happening. Bevino is very clearly leaking behind

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Speaker 3: you know, who are trying to criticize Tom Homan. Don't forget,

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Speaker 3: Lewandowski has the phone number for every reporter in Washington

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Speaker 2: Trump needed an escapegoat, and I think, you know, for now,

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Speaker 2: Bovino in particular, and to a lesser extent, Christ you

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Speaker 2: knowhim and Corey Lewandowski are serving that role. Like I

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Speaker 2: want everybody to understand who Tom Holman is if they

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Speaker 2: because I think that this dovetails with this what I

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Speaker 2: would describe as a tactical retreat in Minneapolis. Susan Collins

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Speaker 2: is also saying that they have indicated they are ending

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Speaker 2: the increased operations in Maine.

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Speaker 5: You know they This makes sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Again, We'll see what actually happens here, and if that

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Speaker 2: is accurate, But it does make sense to me in

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Speaker 2: a sense from a political perspective. Why because they want

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Speaker 2: Susan Collins to be able to hold on to that seat.

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Speaker 2: She is the most endangered incumbent in the entire Senate,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's frankly, very unlikely that she is

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Speaker 2: It is not happening. So I think there was a

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Speaker 2: you know, political decision that was made there. I was

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Speaker 2: and it's very clear a partisan divide here, like blue

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Speaker 5: Actually Christy Noam's own state.

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Speaker 2: Of South Dakota has been like completely ignored in the

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Speaker 2: Right now, Democrats have a little bit of leverage with

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Speaker 5: So we can put the New York Times.

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Speaker 2: Tearsheet up on the screen that had some of the

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Speaker 2: averting a government shutdown early Saturday, when funding for multiple

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Speaker 2: federal agencies is slated to laps. Under the emerging plan,

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Speaker 2: according to two officials knowledgeable about it, the Senate would

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Speaker 2: split off legislation funding DHS from a six bill package

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Speaker 2: of spending measures. The Senate would pass those bills before

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Speaker 2: short term extension for homeland security operations, which would prevent

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Speaker 2: an interruption of services. Then that stopgap bill would give

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Speaker 2: draft a new homeland security spending bill that would include

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Speaker 2: split the bills apart.

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Speaker 5: Okay, the other bills.

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Speaker 2: Funding bills would pass a continuing resolution for DHS stop

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Speaker 3: Well, it can be partially true, I think, I think

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Speaker 3: now is that we are not doing you know, Florida

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00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: very competently had mandatory everify and they didn't have to

438
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 3: do literally any of this.

439
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: And guess you know, you.

440
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 3: Maybe bitchin and moaned about it and saying, oh, but

441
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 3: people are not showing enough to the job sites, but there.

442
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: Weren't crazy ass videos in the streets.

443
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 3: And buy and large, the pushback was not all that

444
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 3: politically like horrible for Ron DeSantis.

445
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 1: That is a very simple way.

446
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 3: We could also immediately tax remittances, which would effectively nuke

447
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 3: the entire illegal migrant you know, sending money back home

448
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 3: through the illegitimate banking system. That similarly would invite mass

449
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 3: self deportit. Again, you can cry about that because if

450
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 3: you think that they should be here, but that is

451
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: a very simple way going after employers using the irs.

452
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 3: For example, if people are not reporting any of this stuff, properly.

453
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 3: All of that actually would be a far more effective

454
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Speaker 3: way to systemically do And I said it would also

455
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: ignore a lot of the civil liberties concerns now that

456
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 3: are undeniable, you know, around all this. So maybe this

457
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 3: is a good way transition to the new video that

458
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: we have about Alex pretty some what is it eleven

459
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 3: days prior to him being killed?

460
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: Do we want to go ahead and play it?

461
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go ahead and queue that up. And this

462
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: is footage it was before you put it on the screen.

463
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: Just to clear things up. I'm forgetting the name of

464
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 2: the news outlet that recorded this, but it was initially

465
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: shared that this came from the BBC. It did not

466
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: come from the BBC, but VBC Verify did verify I.

467
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: Alex Party's family has now confirmed that this is Alex

468
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: Party in a confrontation with iSER CBP agents in Minneapolis,

469
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 2: eleven days before his shooting. So let's go ahead and

470
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: put this up on the screen, and I can narrate

471
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: this a little. So you see him in the jacket,

472
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 2: I mean you can really Hell, this is obviously wearing

473
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: like the same type of outfit. He spits at them,

474
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: he yells at them and then he kicks out their

475
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 2: tail light. They then come and jump out of this

476
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: vehicle and you know, accost him. They actually don't arrest him,

477
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: They just you know, have this fight with him. We

478
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: had known before that he had had his ribs broken

479
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: by ice, and presumably, you know, we don't know for sure,

480
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: presumably this is the interaction that led to his ribs

481
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: being broken. Here, So before I offer my thoughts, Soccer,

482
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Speaker 2: what were your thoughts on this video?

483
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: Well, I mean there's so much to say, because really

484
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: what has come out is people are like, see, this

485
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,239
Speaker 3: is why I deserve to get shot. And you know,

486
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: I have talked previously about how this is kind of

487
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 3: a Waco moment for me, and it kind of reminds

488
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 3: me similarly. They're like, oh, David Korash he was a

489
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 3: pedophile and he was and I go, yeah, yeah, that's true. Okay,

490
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 3: yeah it was bad guy. Okay, No one's saying that.

491
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: Did that mean you should burn women and children alive

492
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: in this in the compound at Waco?

493
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: Answer is no? And so that puts really really frustrating

494
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: to me.

495
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: Is that?

496
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 3: And I'm not defending Alex Bridge. Frankly, I think he

497
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 3: looks unhinged in that he genuinely looked completely unhinged, and

498
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 3: he did commit a crime, specifically whenever he knocked out

499
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 3: the tail light. That does not merit execution. In fact,

500
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 3: by the way, you know, for all of this enforcement

501
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 3: of LOS stuff, why did they not arrest him? You know,

502
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: it's like this is where we talk about, you know,

503
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: law and order and all of that. We did just

504
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 3: in we just saw this mass arrest of people who

505
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 3: were protesters interfering with HSI or with IYES. He should

506
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 3: clearly have been arrested after this incident where he's spitting. Look,

507
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: put the spitting in all that shit, even though I

508
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 3: think that's I forget the case law kicking tail light

509
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: like it's open and shut, you know, right in terms

510
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 3: of attackinger law.

511
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, yeah, it's it's done right.

512
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: Like if you or I did that to any police,

513
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: think you're going to jail, and instead they just like

514
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 3: came out kind of like roughed him up and then.

515
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: Ran away, right, And it's like, guys.

516
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: That's also not the right way, right, So you see

517
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: like two sides of behavior here, which are unhinged and

518
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: out of control. If you'd been arrested hopefully this never

519
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: would have happened. So actually, there you go in terms

520
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: of law and order. But second, this doesn't mean he

521
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 3: deserved to get shot and killed. This again just like

522
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 3: Ruby Ridge, right, they're oh, Randy, well, actually did you

523
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: know he was a white supreme which by the way,

524
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: was kind of a lie, but you know, they're like, oh,

525
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: he was actually a white supremacist. I'm like, look, the core.

526
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 1: Question is should you shoot the guy's wife and dog? Period?

527
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: End of story? Was David Koresha bad dude? Yes? Did

528
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: that mean that we.

529
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: Should burnen these people alive and then cover up the

530
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 3: entire story? That's what I find really frustrating about it.

531
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Speaker 3: So okay, sure, yes, the what legal observer? You know, look,

532
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: I mean it's not a secret. I kind of saw

533
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: this with Renee Good too. Yes, some of these people

534
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: are troublemakers. It's not deniable. I don't even think that

535
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: the people on the street there would deny it like

536
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 3: blown like they want the chaos. And that's why I'm

537
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: not gonna completely absolve everybody of that out there. But

538
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: that doesn't really make any difference when you see the video,

539
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: and that's another gun thing you could make the argument

540
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: that what he did there was ten times worse than

541
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 3: what he did in the In the actual video of

542
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: the shooting, he had the gun visible, well, not just

543
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: the assault crystal. He had the gun visibly in his waistband.

544
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: By the way, it doesn't look holstered properly, So it

545
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: leave carrying and violating the creedive concealed carry. You do

546
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: not seek violent confrontation while you are carrying a firearm

547
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 3: openly and clearly making it and violating the law.

548
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: Like that is.

549
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 3: If that had been the precipitating event in which he

550
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: had gotten shot there, I mean, it would be a

551
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: very different story. Again, not saying it should have been,

552
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: but I'm saying it would have been a totally totally

553
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 3: different story. So that video only puts it in the

554
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 3: context of and I guess rarely what the Ride is

555
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: objecting to is people saying he was a peaceful protester

556
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: or whatever. It's like, okay, ye, yeah, I mean I'm

557
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: not not yes, he I think he clearly was a

558
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: violent agitator. Like I think that's pretty obvious that one video.

559
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: It still does not change that when he got shot

560
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: in the circumstances, again of a man's death in that instance.

561
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: If anything, maybe you could say he learned from his

562
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: behavior because he was acting very differently, you know, at

563
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 3: least I think whenever whenever he was in the video.

564
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 3: So anyway, that's not like my broad based thoughts. I'm

565
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 3: sure people will get upset because I said it a

566
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: violent agitator. I literally don't think it's deniable. I have

567
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 3: warned ad nauseum about liberal protest norms and about how

568
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: why they think they can seemingly just do whatever they want.

569
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: That's a good example of how.

570
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 3: You shouldn't be acting and is clearly going to diminish

571
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: your cause in the long run. But I'm also not

572
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: going to sit here and say, yeah, fuck hen we

573
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: deserve to die, because just like I said with Waco

574
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: or with Ruby Ridge, it does not like the character

575
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: precipitating the like trampling of Second Amendment rights, and death

576
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: in this clearly unjustified shooting is actually immaterial to how

577
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: you feel about not only the use of force in

578
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 3: the specific act in which Alex was killed, but also

579
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: in the administration reaction afterwards, because remember, they did not

580
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: know any of this prior to that right, so they

581
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: did not have any of this video calling him domestic

582
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: terrorists or saying he wanted to mask her.

583
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: They literally had no idea, they just said it.

584
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: And this is part of why, Like in a normal time,

585
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: he said, oh, we're gonna have an investigation, these agents

586
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: are going to be put on leave, and then you

587
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: could put together this whole thing. If they'd done that,

588
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: they'd be in ten times better ground. But that's not

589
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: what they did. Instead, you had Trump out yesterday and like, oh,

590
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: I'm really upset that he had a gun.

591
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: You know you can't do that.

592
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: So Trump, by the way, re posted a post on

593
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 2: I guess it was on true social that called him

594
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 2: a domestic terrorist again by the way, so he's back

595
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: to that language. But no, I mean, your core point

596
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: is correct that a video of him doing something eleven

597
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: days prior has literally nothing to do with the legal

598
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: analysis of whether it was appropriate for them to execute

599
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: him in the street. Zero to do with that right now.

600
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: The reason why I think this video has become important

601
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: to a lot of the psyche of the right is like,

602
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: let's be honest, they've been since he was killed. They've

603
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: been looking for some way to say this was a

604
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: bad guy, and he basically had it coming, and so

605
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: this gives them that ability to do that. In the

606
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: same way that the video of Renee Good and her wife,

607
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 2: where her wife is, you know, yelling at the agent

608
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: who ends up killing Renee Good, that served a similar purpose.

609
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: It didn't provide them with any more sort of like

610
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: legal justification, but it did mark Renee Good as one

611
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 2: of them as especially with you know, her wife being

612
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: the sort of like butch lesbian. It's like, Okay, this

613
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: is one of the bad guys. So now we don't

614
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: have to feel bad about this at all, I think,

615
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: and I think.

616
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 3: I think it's because she was screaming and yelling and look,

617
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: I mean, let's not like they're causing trouble. That's what

618
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: they wanted to do.

619
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: But that is But again, that's part of what I'm

620
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: saying here, is because because that doesn't have anything to

621
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: do with what her wife is doing, doesn't have anything

622
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: to do with Rene Good, but it marks them as

623
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: like they're they're on the other side, and so we

624
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: don't have to care. They deserved it, like they got

625
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: what they deserved. And so I think that is the

626
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: real significance of this video. There's one other thing that

627
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: I think could be significant about this video is we

628
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 2: know and you talk to Glad about this, and Ken

629
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: Clippenstein has done good reporting on this. We know that

630
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: all of these activists are being entered into a variety

631
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: of databases. In fact, Ken has a new piece ound

632
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: about he got how to whistleblower send him, you know,

633
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: a bunch of information about all of the different lists

634
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: that are being compiled. And so these activists are being tracked.

635
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 2: So it does make me wonder. You know, it's not

636
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: definitive here, but it actually does make me wonder, since

637
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: he had had this prior hostile interaction with these agents,

638
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 2: if he wasn't tracked and in a sense targeted, and

639
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: that that's part of why they came in so hot

640
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: when all he was doing in you know, when he

641
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: was murdered was just recording and then he's trying to

642
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: help this woman and nevertheless they're pepper spraying, they attack him,

643
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: they've got eight agents on him in et cetera. I

644
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: think that's a reasonable question to ask based on the

645
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: fact that we know that he had these you know

646
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: this at least this one prior interaction with them.

647
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: Look, it's definitely possible.

648
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: I mean, look, and this is what people can hate

649
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: me for saying it, but like this is this is

650
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: the where you're going to give credence to the idea

651
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: of keeping database. Like if you were out there attacking,

652
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Speaker 3: spitting and kicking and acting like a lunatic out in public,

653
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Speaker 3: Like yeah, you're not going to have a lot of sympathy.

654
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Speaker 2: Even said you know what the agent did in that situation,

655
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: what you're supposed to You're not supposed.

656
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Speaker 1: To get out.

657
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: You're supposed to get out, you know, you got your

658
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: buddies there, arrest him, right, There is a legal process

659
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: for handling this that doesn't involve now I'm going to

660
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: kick the shit out of you and break your ribs

661
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Speaker 2: and then you know, enter you in as a domestic

662
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Speaker 2: terrorist for kicking out my headlight and then possibly we

663
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: don't know this part, but possibly target you later on.

664
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Speaker 2: Like that is not remotely how any of this is

665
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 2: supposed to operate.

666
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: As said as.

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Speaker 5: You could be about his actions in that.

668
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: Moment, I agree, and I'm not just I'm talking about

669
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: Like again, this is why, much to the chagrin, I

670
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: talk about liberal protest norms, because this shit is way

671
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: to normalized and people are acting real fast and loose,

672
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: and we all know that if this had come out

673
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: to be like, oh, well, you know, he was just upset,

674
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: you know at the time, like, no, you cannot be

675
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 3: acting like a lunatic in public, destroying property, period, end

676
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: of story. Like that is this is why I freaked

677
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: out about the whole don Lemon thing. I mean, you

678
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: guys violate the social contract. Yeah, and then yeah, look.

679
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Speaker 2: Well people can people can go back and watch our debate,

680
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: which I really don't want to rehash.

681
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Speaker 1: I will not say.

682
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Speaker 2: For me, I think that law enforcement quote unquote professionals

683
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: should be held to a higher standard for de escalation

684
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: and professionalism than random citizens.

685
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: I agree with you, we just didn't excuse random citizens.

686
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: Random citizens shouldn't be acting like this, by the way,

687
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 3: who are also being massively funded and now supported.

688
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Speaker 1: And I do think that a large lot of the progression.

689
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Speaker 5: Wa what do you mean by that?

690
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Well, look at.

691
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Speaker 3: Barack Obama just tweet out this whole link about how

692
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: to support financially a lot of the protesters that are

693
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 3: in Minneapolis. I'm not even saying it's illegal, Like, can

694
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: we be clear, It's fine. It's a free country. You

695
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 3: can donate to an NGO or whatever who's supporting the protests,

696
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: do what you want, like, come on, let's be on it.

697
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: Like the ICE database and all that just happened completely

698
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, like somebody's paying for it. I'm not

699
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: saying it's domestic terrorism.

700
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: Let me clear. I'm not saying that. I just anything.

701
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to be.

702
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: Really clear because there's a lot of conspiracy theories and

703
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 2: cash Matel's. FBI is investigating now this signal chat group,

704
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 2: which you know, I mean, there's nothing again illegal about

705
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: signal chats. Yes, protests are organized, like, yes, there is coordination.

706
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: That's that doesn't mean they're inorganic. It doesn't mean it's

707
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: like I didn't So yeah, I'm just I know you're

708
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: not saying. I just want to be clear because there's

709
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: a lot of conspiracies that this is some sort of

710
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 2: like inorganic I don't know, George Soros so whatever funded thing.

711
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 2: These are Minneapolis residents who are very upset. Are there

712
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: NGOs room? Is there a systematic you know, coordination through

713
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: these signals groups of whatever. Yeah, of course that's the

714
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: way like effective organizing actually works.

715
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: I take your point again, I'm not saying that this

716
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 3: is some you know, I've always believed, by the way

717
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: in January sixth case, in all of these cases that

718
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 3: you know, I don't think anybody's being paid by BLM

719
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: dot com to go out and to riot. That said,

720
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: you know, there were clearly NGOs and all these other

721
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: people who were involved. So things can be organic and

722
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: they can also be supported. And I do think that

723
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 3: people go way too far, both right and left. Everyone

724
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: always remember they said, oh, the tea party thing was

725
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: totally fake.

726
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: No it wasn't.

727
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: Sorry, Yes you may pay for buses, that doesn't mean

728
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: you can fill the buses. That's generally how this is

729
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: always operated. People are always screaming back and forward each

730
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: other about organic or inorganic. If tens of thousands of

731
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: people feel something, yes, there will also be organizations to

732
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: support that. So let me be And I've always held

733
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: that position. Now whenever it comes back to alex and

734
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: the reaction of this video, I remember now what I

735
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: was going to say. I do think this is part

736
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 3: of the issue. A lot of the progressive left press.

737
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: I'll call out SATAO for one, they were you know,

738
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: they put it out as if this was some sympathetic

739
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 3: incident before they had the information and this video it

740
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: makes them look bad like.

741
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: They were like, oh, he got his rib broken because

742
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: he was.

743
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: It's like, no, guys, he started it, like very clearly

744
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: he was started it, he initiated it, he continued it.

745
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: It looks bad for him.

746
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 3: And that's why I think people and by the way,

747
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 3: including the border patrol agents case, just snap coming out

748
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: and clearly saying like, oh did absolutely nothing wrong and

749
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 3: is a hero, is going to create the space to

750
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: make you look like an idiot. Like in this particular case,

751
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 3: Alex clearly was violent. He clearly was very upset. I

752
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 3: do not think that it means he deserved to die.

753
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: I do think that it's going to pierce a lot

754
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 3: of people's you know, you know the oh ICU nurse

755
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 3: and all. It's like, well, you know, acting like this

756
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 3: in public is a serious red flag, like end of story.

757
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: Period.

758
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: Yes, you have a right to be upset, you have

759
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 3: a right to peacefully protest, but your behavior as a

760
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 3: gun owner in that situation was out of control, completely

761
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 3: contrary to the norms, and in that particular case, like

762
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: or not just norms even in the law of the

763
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: way that you were conducting yourself while doing that that

764
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 3: was very, very out of bounds.

765
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Speaker 1: However, they didn't handle it properly.

766
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 3: And that's why I'm not going to sit here and

767
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: defend the ICE agents or any of those people. But

768
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 3: this is why, you know, general chaos, violence and actual

769
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 3: law and order is good. He should have been arrested.

770
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 3: If he had been, hopefully this never would have happened.

771
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: And instead, you know, I guess they just beat the

772
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 3: shit out of him and walked away and then it

773
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: leads to this horrible incident on later. So TLDR. This

774
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 3: is why law and order actually saves lives. And yes,

775
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 3: also no absolution whatsoever of the law enforcement officers here

776
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: who also handled clearly the situation poorly. I saw some

777
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: people blaming Minnesota. I don't see any reason why the

778
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: Feds can't arrest him. I mean, they've arrested plenty of

779
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: people in the state. Well, a lot of people were

780
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 3: saying the Minnesteta so state officials or city officials should

781
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 3: have arrested him as a result of the handles should

782
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 3: have helped after that incident, and they were like, see,

783
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 3: this is why you know, the police officers not doing anything.

784
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, the feds have arrested plenty of protesters,

785
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: and clearly he was liable to be arrested, and so

786
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 3: acting in the way that they did and just letting

787
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 3: this slide it was the wrong thing to do all around.

788
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could also in that instance, since the ice

789
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: officers or CPP or whatever like beat the.

790
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 5: Shit out of him, maybe they should have been arrested too.

791
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: But I mean, the reality is Minneapolis has many fewer

792
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: police officers. They are wildly overwhelmed. This is something that

793
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: the local police chief has talked about. And so you know,

794
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, if he kicks in a headlight like

795
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: it would be, I would not object to him being

796
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: arrested and that you be, Okay, you broke the law.

797
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 5: There we go.

798
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: But you know, I think for myself, and I know

799
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: you're not equitting these two things like kicking in a

800
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: headlight versus executing someone in the street for zero reason,

801
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: are not, you know, not on the same level. And

802
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: I know you're not saying that they are, but just

803
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: to put that out there.

804
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 3: Right, And the major right wing grievance is basically that

805
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: you know, oh, they turned him into Saint George, you know,

806
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: Saint George Floyd. And then this look, this is unfortunate.

807
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: It always happens, is that, you know, the victim is

808
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 3: always somebody who's never did anything wrong and they're actually

809
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: like rosy heroes and everything, and that's just not humanity period.

810
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: But that is why I don't really care.

811
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Speaker 3: Like we know, we've talked about the Ashley Babbit shooting

812
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, do I do? I think

813
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 3: it was right to like break in No, but you know,

814
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: and a lot of people stood by like, oh, she

815
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 3: got what she deserved when you look at the case

816
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: pretty clearly, like it wasn't necessary use of force. A

817
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 3: lot of right wingers understood that, you know, on January sixth,

818
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: and by the way, that one was way more you know,

819
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 3: in the realm of understanding. I think, then let's say

820
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: what happened here with Alex So I try to keep

821
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: generally like I try to keep a general principal view

822
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: of this and to look at it.

823
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Speaker 1: And that's why for me, it is still a Waco moment.

824
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 3: As in, in the moment, there's no dec about who

825
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: did something wrong, and then the government who lied about it,

826
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: and then period trying to trample on the Second Amendment

827
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: right that we all have for me, that is the

828
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: bigger story, and I will still acknowledge like with Waco,

829
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Speaker 3: what you know, David and his own behavior of the

830
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: branch Davidians. But ultimately, sometimes that is a bit of

831
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 3: a cop out used by the people who defend that

832
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,479
Speaker 3: behavior because they're like, well, he was such a bad guy,

833
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: he deserved.

834
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Speaker 1: To be killed. And that's where I'm just like, no,

835
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: that's just not true, period, that's right.

836
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Speaker 5: January sixth.

837
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Speaker 2: January six is a good example, not only because of

838
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Speaker 2: Ashley bat It, but I mean you had people who

839
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: genuinely assaulted Capitol police officers who were pardoned and you know,

840
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: treated like they were political prisoners by the right because

841
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: they were part of a movement that they support. So

842
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: you know, zero consistency even on just like the basic

843
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: like law and order, respect authority, obey authority mantra that

844
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: preparing a lot.

845
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, not helpful, is it.

846
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: And you know that's another good case where they you

847
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: know what didn't they threw the books at him a

848
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 3: lot of times. Extraordinary, the biggest FBI you know, investigation

849
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: and all of that in history. I think it was

850
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: way too far the way that that it all went down.

851
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, you're right pardoning people, you know

852
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 3: who attack police, and then in this case we'll go,

853
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: oh fuck, it's like, all right, well we need to

854
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 3: have some level of consistency here, folks. It actually does matter.

855
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: And that's why, you know, in general, looking at this,

856
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: I think the border or whoever the agents were in

857
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: that situation acted very stupidly. They should have just arrested him.

858
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 3: I think Alex acted terribly in that situation. It doesn't

859
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: really change how I feel about the shooting, period, but

860
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: I do think this will be kind of a rhetorical

861
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: propaganda win, I think for a lot of right wingers,

862
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: because for them, what they get most annoyed about, and

863
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: I can sympathize with this not an Alex situation, but

864
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 3: more broadly is at any time there's a left shooting

865
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 3: costs celeb they're a hero, they've done absolutely nothing wrong,

866
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 3: and that's just usually not the case in a lot

867
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Speaker 3: of the in the way the humans are, like, if

868
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: you look at anybody, there's generally going to be like

869
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: a you know, yeah, look where colors.

870
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 5: Nobody is perfect, for sure perfect.

871
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: In this instance, it was actually looking like this guy

872
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: was you know, pretty pretty close to a model citizen va,

873
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: I see you nurse, like all the testimony coming out

874
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: from people and so, like I said, I mean, they

875
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: were searching high and low for anything that could mar

876
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: his reputation, and they got that with this.

877
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's our fault, okay, and not to

878
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: smirch the dead. Shouldn't act shouldn't be acting like this

879
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: in public, all right, period. And I hope people look

880
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: at this as a you know, as a lesson, because

881
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: if this video didn't exist, you'd be on a lot

882
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: you know, better footing. And in general, if you're going

883
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: to put yourself in these type of situations, again, as

884
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: a gun owner, you have a much higher responsibility to

885
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 3: act responsibly. And he did not meet that bar whatsoever

886
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: in this video. But again that did not have any

887
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: bearing on the video in which he was killed, where he.

888
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: Actually didn't know what happens eleven days later, has nothing

889
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: to do unless he was targeted for that previous interaction.

890
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: And that's a question that should be explored at some point,

891
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: it should be incuted. Are Yeah, let's let's get to

892
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: the other side of the equation. What the government is doing,

893
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: which has you know, vastly more power than any of

894
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: these individuals. One thing they did decide to place the

895
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: agents involved on leave. And I say agents, And this

896
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: is something we talked about before. It wasn't just one

897
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: guy who shot Alex pretty it was two. And you

898
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: have you know, not only do you have the initial

899
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: shots fired after you know, it seems like someone yell,

900
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 2: someone yelled, he's got a gun. He's got a gun,

901
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: he's disarmed before any shots are fired. Then after he

902
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: is lying motionless on the ground, they continue to pump

903
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: bullets into his likely you know, dying body. Uh. And

904
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: so in any case, both of those agents have now

905
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: been placed on administrative leave. Now the administration is saying like, oh,

906
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: that's standard protocol. Well, it should be standard protocol, But

907
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: as far as we know, it hasn't happened in any

908
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: of the other many ICE shootings, not just the one

909
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: that we you know, the Renee Good one that got

910
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: so much attention, but in the Miramar Martinez one that

911
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 2: didn't happen either. That is, that is standard protocol for

912
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: like your average cop, even if it was a totally

913
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: in self defense, totally justified, clear cut case, you're still

914
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: put on leave. But it took an extraordinary amount of

915
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: pressure for that to happen here in any case, that

916
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: is what they're saying at this point.

917
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, I read that as part of the whole

918
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: tactical retreat around DHS, around funding potentially you know, significant

919
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: and important. So yeah, see, okay, guys, turning now to

920
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: the FBI, We're going to go and put these images

921
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: up here on the screen you can see FBI agents

922
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: at the Fulton County Elections office removing some ballots. But

923
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 3: what was really stunning was actually the appearance of the

924
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 3: DNI Tulsi Gabbard, who was spotted here by a photographer

925
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: surreptitiously on the phone. All of this being set up

926
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: in the context of Trump's claims that the election in

927
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: twenty twenty was stolen in some of the pressure on

928
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: the state of Georgia to release their voter rolls and

929
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 3: other information. So as you can all see, that Telsey

930
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: Gabbert story really is the most important part of all

931
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: of this.

932
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: This administration has even sort of toyed with about now

933
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: that they've got Maduro and they believe these like stupid

934
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: Venezuela election conspiracies, that maybe he's going to cut a

935
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 2: deal with them to say whatever it is they want

936
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: him to say about this twenty twenty election rigging. And

937
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: now that they have these ballots and they're out of

938
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: the hands of the local authorities, which again Georgia is

939
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: a you know, still has a Republican governor by the way,

940
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: but in any case, now it's on in the hands

941
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: of those authorities, they can say whatever they want about

942
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: what these ballots actually contain. Like the truth is no

943
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: barrier for them, we know that whatsoever.

944
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, the search warrant has not been publicly released like

945
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: all of like the pretext for it, they say the

946
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: action is a court authorized law enforcement action and the

947
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 3: warrant seeking records tied to the twenty twenty election. I mean,

948
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 3: what is crazy. The Tulsi thing is the element which

949
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: should make everyone say, what the fuck, because, as you

950
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 3: just said, this is the ODE and I. It is

951
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 3: highly unusual for an OD and I official ever to

952
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 3: be involved in a law enforcement operation like this one.

953
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: We will recall, Well, I think there's some personality stuff

954
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: that should be explained here too. Tulsia's out on the

955
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: alex Crystal. You and I know that she was marginalized

956
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 3: in the Venezuela operation where she basically wasn't even told reportedly,

957
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: they said, DN, I is, do not inform something like that, right, right?

958
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: Do not invite you know, to any of the meetings

959
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: around that. She spearheaded that whole Obama Gate thing that

960
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: they said was a conspiracy which went absolutely nowhere Iran

961
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: is currently happening. Allegedly she had spoken about against that

962
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: behind the scenes. Not again, I can't one hundred percent

963
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: confirm that, but that's kind of what I've been told. Well,

964
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 3: this is a good way to get into the President's

965
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 3: graces is to be the spearhead of whatever this is.

966
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: And you're right, I mean it could be some part

967
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 3: of Venezuela operation. But more importantly, I think what people

968
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: should really understand is that this was not just an

969
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: FBI operation, but reportedly the head agent who would be

970
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: in charge of this was actually relieved of duties last

971
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: week prior to this major operation. And I mean in Georgia,

972
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: by the way, they're taking this very seriously. I saw

973
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: the Senator oss Off speak out against us, like you said,

974
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 3: they have a Republican governor. Remember that many of the

975
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 3: targeted officials from Stop to Steal not only one reelection,

976
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: they survived primaries whenever they were specifically like David Purdue

977
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: and I'm forgetting who challenged Brad Raffinsberger. Yeah, both of

978
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 3: them survived. Brian Kemp and Rafisberger all survived electoral challenges.

979
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: So they're going to have strong state guidelines to sit on.

980
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: It's I mean, I had heard one theory that this

981
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 3: could be potentially also about the Remember the Fannie Willis

982
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: prosecution investigation. They've been salivating trying to go after Fanny

983
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 3: Willis after her failed prosecutorial attempts back on while the

984
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 3: Biden administration was in power. And of course she had

985
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 3: her own scandal with you know, the way that that

986
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 3: entire thing went down. But yeah, I mean, just right now,

987
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: we don't really.

988
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: Know a whole lot.

989
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 3: We just know that they seized you know, like ballot

990
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 3: records here, and the fear from Georgia Democrats and Georgia

991
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: officials is obviously this isn't about twenty twenty, but it's

992
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 3: going to be about twenty twenty six, and specifically the

993
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 3: midterm elections in a highly contested battleground state, which.

994
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: Is a legitimate fear. I mean, if we're being honest

995
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: and looking at all.

996
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: This right yes, of course, and not just in Georgia.

997
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: Look what they do is they test the limits. They

998
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: constantly put what can we get away with? What can

999
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: we get away with? What can we get away with?

1000
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: Can we routinely fle out court orders to the tune

1001
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 2: of hundreds of thousands that actually thousands of times? Yes,

1002
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: we can apparently get away with that. So we're going

1003
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: to keep doing it. Can we interfere in this state

1004
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: electoral system and get a judge to sign off on it?

1005
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: And you know, as you were mentioning, the agent in

1006
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: charge of the Atlanta field office was removed last week.

1007
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think it takes a rocket scientist

1008
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 2: to put two and two together and figure out whoever

1009
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: that was was not too keen on this operation, And

1010
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: so they just push them out of the way. Can

1011
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 2: you get away with that? They're pushing the boundaries of

1012
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: what they can do. You know, we have to connect

1013
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: it back to Minnesota as well, because one of the

1014
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: things Pambondi put this in a letter to the state.

1015
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: She was like, yeah, we'll leave if you turn over

1016
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: your voter roles and the state to their car were like, no,

1017
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: we're not doing that, and that actually significantly hurt the

1018
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: government's case in court too, because it very much clearly

1019
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 2: looks like they're trying to bully and coerce Minnesota into

1020
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: doing things Minnesota you know, does not have to do

1021
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: and does not want to do. So in any case,

1022
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: that made it pretty plain that part of what the

1023
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: goal was of the operation in Minnesota was enabled to

1024
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: grab these voter roles. They're pushing every state in the

1025
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: country to send them these voter roles.

1026
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 5: You know, some of.

1027
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: The very first executive orders that were signed, if we

1028
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 2: go back, you know, this long year ago to the

1029
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: beginning of the Trump administration, had to do with quote

1030
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 2: unquote what they call election integrity, which is an effort

1031
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: to you know, to change who are is on the

1032
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: roles and help to try to control these results. The

1033
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 2: other thing that's scary to me, I put it together

1034
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: with the massive influx of funding to ICE, which has

1035
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: been deployed as this like political weapon. So do you

1036
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: think it's crazy to imagine that they could also use

1037
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 2: those same forces are very loyal, especially in the new

1038
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 2: recruits to Trump and to Steven Miller to intimidate people

1039
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: or Trump has actually said now that he regrets not

1040
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: having the National Guard and put E seven up on

1041
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 2: the screen. He regrets not having the National Guard seize

1042
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: the ballot boxes back in twenty twenty, but he said

1043
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: that he was worried maybe they wouldn't have been up

1044
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: to it. Well maybe now with he feels like he's

1045
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: got the force that would be up to it.

1046
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 5: This all sounds.

1047
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: Insane, and I feel insane saying it, but we already

1048
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 2: saw this man try to steal one election and this

1049
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,439
Speaker 2: thing with Tulci Gabbard involved and going back in and

1050
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: seizing the ballots from twenty twenty for god knows what reason,

1051
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: and the theories about Madura and whatever like, these are

1052
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: things that all really happened. So even though they sound insane,

1053
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: you have to look at where things could be going.

1054
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: He knows he's not popular, right, he knows the midterms.

1055
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: He even says outright that typically the person in power

1056
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: like they end up losing ground. He knows it is

1057
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: very likely that they're going to lose the House, if

1058
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: not the Senate. And so if he feels like politically

1059
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 2: he can't control that outcome by changing people's opinions, well,

1060
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: what levers is he going to reach for? And so

1061
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 2: I do see this as like a shot across the

1062
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: bow for twenty twenty six. Yeah.

1063
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 3: Look, I wish I could say that it's crazy, but

1064
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: when and I could, I would even say it was

1065
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: less crazy. But the Tulsi being involved is like whoa

1066
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: man like I really don't think people understand how extraordinary

1067
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: that is, because, like you said, that could potentially, I mean,

1068
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 3: who knows, you know, some foreign interference thing. Don't forget

1069
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 3: this is cash Ptel's FBI, who is the one in

1070
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,280
Speaker 3: charge of this entire investigation. And I mean, I guess

1071
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: my only saving grace is eventually this shit will have

1072
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 3: to come out in court and we will actually see

1073
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 3: what it is that the so called pretext you know

1074
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 3: for this was from what I was reading I have

1075
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 3: it here is that they said ballot images produced by

1076
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 3: scan ballots, all voter rolls, tabulator tapes. The warrant signed

1077
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 3: was sought as an investigation into possible violation of federal

1078
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 3: law against destruction of a later election related record, another

1079
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: statue that makes it a crime to knowingly procure fraudulent

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Speaker 3: voter registration or fraudulent votes. That is, as of it

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Speaker 3: stands right now, what it is these would actually have

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Speaker 3: to be proven in court, don't forget. We have that

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Speaker 3: Rudy Giuliani thing. Yeah, okay, six, and we put that

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Speaker 3: up there on the screen. At one point, some of

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Speaker 3: this was litigated in court and Rudy Giuliani had to

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Speaker 3: pay one hundred and forty eight million dollars of defamation

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Speaker 3: against two election workers that he had accused previously of

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Speaker 3: tampering with the presidential vote in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: This was was this a state case? I forget? No least?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, So anyway, so just reminder that some of

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Speaker 3: this at the very least has been litigated previously, but

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Speaker 3: with Trump in charge, who knows. I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 3: We're going to pay attention to it because it definitely

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Speaker 3: that's going an important story, very important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And just to remind people related to the Giuliani thing,

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Speaker 2: the big conspiracies were I mean, you had the ten

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Speaker 2: thousand mules or whatever, you had that whole Dinesh to

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Speaker 2: Susan conspiracy, but specifically in Fulton County, they had this

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Speaker 2: whole conspiracy about like suitcases of ballots being brought in

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Speaker 2: and that was the center of a lot of the conspiracies. Again,

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration pursued a bunch of these claims in courts,

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Speaker 2: not just this Rudy Giuliani thing where he was found

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Speaker 2: guilty of defaming these ladies, these election workers.

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Speaker 5: But a bunch.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he made so many claims in court. They

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Speaker 2: were all thrown out. Right there there is no there there.

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Speaker 2: If there was any there there would they would have

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Speaker 2: found it, they would have shown it. Even you know,

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Speaker 2: Trump in the run ups of the election, when he

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Speaker 2: was on with Rogan, Rogan asked him about and he

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Speaker 2: was like, well, there's a book you should check out.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he couldn't explain it.

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Speaker 1: And he still talks about that. He's like really, He's like,

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Speaker 1: he came here and he made you still didn't have anything.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, So, I mean we know there's no there,

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Speaker 2: there there, But that doesn't mean. Look, these people will

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Speaker 2: destroy They're in court now arguing they're allowed to destroy

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Speaker 2: evidence in the killing of Alex Preddy. Like, we can't

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Speaker 2: put anything past them in terms of destroying ballots, changing ballots,

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Speaker 2: what they present. I mean, it's just I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's uh, it's very disturbing. It's crazy to me that

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Speaker 2: a judge signed off on this, But you also have

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Speaker 2: all of these like Trump sick ephant judges who've been

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Speaker 2: put in place and gotten their positions on the bench

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Speaker 2: solely because of their loyalty to Trump. So maybe it

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Speaker 2: was one of those people who signed off on it.

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Speaker 2: We don't actually know at this point.

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Speaker 3: I don't know either. I was just looking a little

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Speaker 3: bit into her background. Nope, I don't have anything I

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Speaker 3: can confirm as of right now. We'll stay on the story. Okay,

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Speaker 3: sorry everybody that it went late. It is what it is,

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Speaker 3: breaking news in the middle of the show. Sorry, And

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Speaker 3: of course we're at home. We're hoping to be back

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Speaker 3: in the studio next week if possible, if the snow

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Speaker 3: in the ice melts even ammodicum. Unfortunately, the entire DMV

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Speaker 3: remains a complete shit show as a result of our

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Speaker 3: local government. So we apologize for the week, but we

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Speaker 3: hope to see you all next week, and of course

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Speaker 3: there'll be a good Friday show for all you all tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: See you then,