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Speaker 2: Now your host, Nicole Hutchinson.

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Speaker 3: What Up?

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Speaker 5: Cowboys Nation? Welcome in the Girls Talk Boys Talk with

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about. That that's the intramatail newie

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Speaker 6: next time, he introduced me. That's all I want is.

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Speaker 3: The new intro.

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Speaker 2: You like that.

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Speaker 7: I need a clip, Douglas, if you're watching this, I

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Speaker 7: I need new with the bop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll never have.

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Speaker 8: It's okay. I was here for you.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate day too.

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Speaker 8: With a little mixed up show like this, a little

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Speaker 8: run down.

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Speaker 2: Yes it was fun, Yes, it was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Today's gonna be Did you do any homework last night?

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Speaker 3: Not a single We learned a lot.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: You went home and do not now get me out.

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Speaker 5: I was just told camera that I was going to

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Speaker 5: watch The Godfather on Friday. See look at you already

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Speaker 5: trying to put me on black, keeping you on.

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Speaker 3: Your toes, just making sure you will keep it to

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Speaker 3: your words.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna make use of this bye week right on Friday.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna get back right when.

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Speaker 3: You get that text on Saturday morning from this phone.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be cultured. Oh wow, to be there. I

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Speaker 2: hope so.

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Speaker 5: But no, all right. One of the biggest news of

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Speaker 5: the day will really earlier this morn warning was that

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys have signed Jalen Dalton, undrafted free agent in

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Speaker 5: twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 4: What's y'all's thoughts on that new signing.

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Speaker 5: I'll start with Patrick.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's not going to move the needle

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Speaker 7: because it's not designed to move the needle. You know,

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Speaker 7: you know they need help at defensive end, and you

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Speaker 7: would like to see them, you know, make a bigger

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Speaker 7: splash there. I think there are a couple of mercenaries

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Speaker 7: that are still out in free agency that they should

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Speaker 7: you know that I would love for them to look

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Speaker 7: at it's a science lab article and they had.

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Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 7: And when you talk about guys like shackloss And for example,

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Speaker 7: I mean, there are guys out there, but they're choosing

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Speaker 7: out to go the route. So they want to go with,

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Speaker 7: you know, the safer route with a guy like Jalen Dalton,

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Speaker 7: like you said, undrafted guy twenty nineteen for the Bears.

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Speaker 7: Spent some time with several other NFL teams, most recently

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Speaker 7: you XFL Stint. We do know they love their XFL

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Speaker 7: experiments and maybe it works, maybe it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: But as far as Yah mention the Bahamas deal, that's

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Speaker 2: how I was.

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Speaker 5: San Antonio bam Yeah, san Antonio.

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Speaker 7: Bambs yeah, yeah, yeah. So sometimes with Seattle see dragonson

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Speaker 7: in San Antonio. So now he's coming up to North

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Speaker 7: Texas to try to handle the practice squad. But I

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Speaker 7: mean it's a practice squad signing. It's for depth, and

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Speaker 7: again I would love for him to go after you know,

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Speaker 7: some bigger fish that are out there that I named,

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Speaker 7: like Shack Laston for example. But this is the route

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Speaker 7: there going. So we'll see what the young man has.

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Speaker 7: What you think par for the course, it's what we expect.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we haven't made any splashes. I don't expect

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Speaker 6: It's just it sounds about what we've we've done with

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Speaker 6: about the XFL route because that's literally the route that

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Speaker 6: we've gone with certain guys, developmental guys. Whatever he has

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Speaker 6: if he ever gets there at all. So you know, look, man,

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Speaker 6: we need all the help we can possibly get at

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Speaker 6: this point on the defensive line, and I'm looking for

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Speaker 6: something a bigger, a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit bigger fish than that.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't a guy that works at Amazon, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm sorry, give me shouts.

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Speaker 6: They could just stop coming there for thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't scare me. But anyway, it's just one of

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Speaker 6: I just feel like we need, we need more than that,

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Speaker 6: and I think anybody would have set eyes know that

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Speaker 6: we need more than that.

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Speaker 5: I tried to do a little digging of some highlights

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Speaker 5: and to him, I couldn't find. I couldn't find any

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Speaker 5: And so one thing that I did notice is that

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Speaker 5: a good tweiner. There another versatile guy like a Chauncey

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Speaker 5: Golston what you've seen with him over the last couple

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Speaker 5: of months, really the last couple of years really, But

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Speaker 5: I think that it could be a good little depth

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Speaker 5: piece to add to that room. But Ambar, what you think?

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Speaker 9: What you think?

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Speaker 10: Well, you said big fish, Yeah, they cost money, right,

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Speaker 10: what do we have?

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Speaker 8: We don't have money.

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Speaker 10: Hold on, the point is we know what's coming in

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Speaker 10: free agency.

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Speaker 3: Next year, right, you want me to have this call?

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Speaker 8: Do you have your time laying talk now?

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Speaker 3: You ask a questions?

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Speaker 10: Yes, thank you, thank you. The point is right now,

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Speaker 10: I don't see even if they were to get somebody

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Speaker 10: big and to come in, I just don't feel that

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Speaker 10: one person is going to be able to change all

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Speaker 10: the problems that the Cowboys currently have on.

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Speaker 8: Both sides of the of the field. You have so.

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Speaker 10: Many different issues that even and I'm bringing this up

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Speaker 10: because I see people ask you, oh, well, can they

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Speaker 10: use the buy to make a trade and get somebody

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Speaker 10: a big name? But I don't see it, And me personally,

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Speaker 10: I don't see it being worth spending draft capital or

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Speaker 10: a crazy amount of money at this point, because I

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Speaker 10: truly don't feel like just one person is going to

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Speaker 10: change what you've got. The only position that I could

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Speaker 10: argue would be running back and making a change there

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Speaker 10: to where you at somebody else. But the problem is

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Speaker 10: that I see is that currently, even guys that they

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Speaker 10: do have, they're just not taking advantage of the guys

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Speaker 10: that are useful. And we talked about lip Key yesterday,

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Speaker 10: we brought it up. That's another guy that I'm saying.

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Speaker 10: My point with this is like, Okay, I see that

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Speaker 10: you're not really utilizing the talent that you do have.

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Speaker 10: You don't utilize it correctly. What's he going to do

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Speaker 10: spending all this money or draft capital on someone that's

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Speaker 2: I'm on the opposite end of that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think a lot of times like people

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Speaker 6: don't feel like one name could come in and change things.

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Speaker 6: I just feel like if it happens at a key position.

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Speaker 6: I think defensively, you have a key position. If you

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Speaker 6: made a change or boughtying a guy that was serviceable

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Speaker 6: as a one technique three technique that will help you tremendously,

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Speaker 6: a rotational piece that could be productive right away. I

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Speaker 6: think if you brought in a running back that could

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Speaker 6: change a lot of the dynamic of your balance that

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Speaker 6: in those key areas for the Cowboys. When you're watching

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Speaker 6: the game, it's like I just watched Cincinnati, you know,

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Speaker 6: I just I.

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Speaker 2: Just you know, I just watched you try.

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Speaker 6: I just watched all these teams and they have this

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Speaker 6: the woodshed that I see making plays.

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Speaker 2: And if we had that piece.

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Speaker 6: I think that that would improve, especially in the run

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and that's kind of where I am with it.

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Speaker 7: And I see where Ambar is going, and I agree

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Speaker 7: with you on the running backs piece, because I don't

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Speaker 7: necessarily think trading for a running back is going to

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Speaker 7: answer any more questions than you would have if you

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Speaker 7: gave Dalvin Cook a try, right, because why would you

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Speaker 7: go why would you go and trade for a piece

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Speaker 7: when you have a piece here that you haven't even

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Speaker 7: tried yet, right, So you haven't test driven this yet.

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Speaker 7: So until you test drive this car, don't go shopping

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Speaker 7: for a new car. And on that position, But the

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Speaker 7: flip side of that is, while I do agree with

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Speaker 3: So whether you're talking about because you're.

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Speaker 7: Down four defensive ends for Sam Williams, Marshawn Dealing, Michael

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Speaker 7: at the defensive end position and not to knock the dart.

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Speaker 7: And but again, the reason that doesn't move the needle

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Speaker 7: with this limited experience, who doesn't necessarily have the resume

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Speaker 7: When he's coming in, he's trying to earn a chance

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Speaker 7: to possibly be elevated one of these game days. Whereas

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Speaker 7: if you take a name like I said, Shack Loss,

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Speaker 7: and when I got the article in front of me,

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Speaker 7: now shack loss in Rasheen Green, Marquise Haynes. I mean,

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Speaker 7: these are names out there, mi Ji Sanders, these are

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Speaker 7: guys edge rushers. You bring in one or two of

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Speaker 7: of money. They might cost a little bit more than

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Speaker 7: veteran minimum, which right now I think is like one

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Speaker 7: point two to one point three.

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Speaker 3: That's not big.

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Speaker 7: So if you get a couple of these guys, let's

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Speaker 7: say you throw two and a half million dollars at

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Speaker 7: the problem. You get two guys with a proven resume,

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Speaker 7: who have the experience who can possibly impact you, that

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Speaker 7: can cut that need and have from fort to two right,

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Speaker 7: maybe help with run defense, definitely help with the pass

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Speaker 7: rush over asking tyres Sweet to go from being a

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Speaker 7: special teams guy in year two, Now we want you

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Speaker 7: to be the next to Marcus Lawrence. Now we want

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Speaker 7: you to be Michael Parsons. These guys have already performed.

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Speaker 7: And as far as the cap space, you got the

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Speaker 7: cap space you got around twenty five million dollars. And

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Speaker 7: I know a lot of people are saying, well, they're

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Speaker 7: pocketing that because they get to roll it over pocketing

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Speaker 7: that for Michael Parsons. But Mike is under contract next year,

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Speaker 7: So if you extend Michael Parsons, this doesn't go to that.

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Speaker 7: You won't need this for that. You would only need

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Speaker 7: this for that if Micah's contract expired this year. So

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Speaker 7: that's how the money works out. So I get what

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Speaker 7: you're saying. You're right on the running backs position. Not

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Speaker 7: you're right because it's your opinion. You're not right or wrong.

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Speaker 7: I agree on the running backs position, but because you're

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Speaker 3: I don't think gonna move the needle.

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Speaker 10: For the only reason why I don't see worth the

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Speaker 10: because I saw why your starters were how.

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Speaker 8: They looked for a few games. This is the only reason.

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Speaker 10: Because I agree with everything you said, I agree, Yes,

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Speaker 8: Okay, what is that gonna look like?

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Speaker 10: Because we got a taste of what the starters look

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Speaker 8: They were not, so that.

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Speaker 10: Is absolutely the only reason why I'm saying this, because

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Speaker 10: were so many other things that Mike Zimmer I thought

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Speaker 10: he was gonna revolutionize. Sorry I hit the mic revolutionize

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Speaker 10: and we never saw it. The pressure wasn't there. And

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Speaker 10: how you're the Marcus Lawrence. You had Micah Parsons healthy

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Speaker 7: And you're right in that capacity because I mean, when

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Speaker 3: Yards on the ground over the course of like.

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Speaker 7: Two or three games. So you still have the problems.

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Speaker 7: So I get, but where were the problems?

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Speaker 6: It's like, when you look at the where were the

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Speaker 9: Now?

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Speaker 2: I mean, and I don't want to paint over this.

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Speaker 6: I think that when you talk about the key pieces,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. No defense.

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Speaker 6: I don't care how good Michael Parsons is on the outside.

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Speaker 6: Teams have been able to shuffle the line to block,

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Speaker 6: protect against number eleven. They've been able to do things

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Speaker 6: you're right, we are playing shorthanded without Marsha Kneeling, without

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Speaker 6: you examine the tape, you're like, damn, oh, we're getting

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Speaker 7: So and you also got to look at it from

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Speaker 7: you know what went wrong in the first six games.

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Speaker 7: Coming out of this by week. Who are you going

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Speaker 7: up against? Who's their head coach? His entire tree has

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Speaker 7: been whooping your behind right, So you're going up against

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Speaker 2: Dawkins that why would have read today?

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Speaker 3: No, this is uga. Maybe what is.

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Speaker 7: To say if you know, you know, dogs and horns

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Speaker 2: Oh you got pressure?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, me and Derek Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, me

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Speaker 7: it starts with exercising the demon of Kyle Shanahan in

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Speaker 7: San Francisco. And when you see that, that's what you

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Speaker 7: should be planning for. So, whether it be a trade

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Speaker 7: Jalen Dalton and you say this is going to help

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Speaker 7: us beat the forty nine ers, then we're in bigger.

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Speaker 3: Trouble than we think.

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Speaker 5: Someone, let me let me ask you all something. Let's say,

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Speaker 5: since we're talking about the forty nine ers, the Cowboys

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Speaker 5: beat the forty nine ers. You know they look good defensively,

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Speaker 5: they look improved offensively. Will that, I guess, erase everything

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Speaker 5: that's happening.

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Speaker 3: No, why it's not enough. It's not enough.

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Speaker 7: What it can do is be the trampoline, or I

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Speaker 7: what you hope will be momentum that then takes you

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 7: But as far as if you beat them, yeah, you

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Speaker 7: walk away, you feel good. You're like, ah, we conquered

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Speaker 7: that demon. But you're still four and three and you

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Speaker 7: gotta stack wins. Of course, so then you look at

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Speaker 7: the film and everything you did right, if you walk

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Speaker 7: on that. But if we're gonna say, yeah, beat in

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Speaker 7: San Francisco automatically again makes you a contender, No it doesn't.

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Speaker 3: It just puts you back on the right track.

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Speaker 2: But a loss to what a loss? You know?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess here's the thing I think where I

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Speaker 6: level defensively, That's what I'm gonna be looking for because.

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Speaker 2: It's a copycat league.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's running the same thing at you over and over

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Speaker 6: And to me, it's like the Cowboys are in a

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Speaker 6: mode like, look, man, what Detroit did. Detroit emptied their

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Speaker 6: try and humiliate you the same way. A win against

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Speaker 6: run because you know this is what Shanahan's gonna do.

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Speaker 6: To me, it gives you that trust, time, consistency, and

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Speaker 6: at least we possible. This is something that we can

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Speaker 6: right now, we have.

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Speaker 2: Nothing to hang our hat on nothing.

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Speaker 6: At all, because all we've seen week by week by week,

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Speaker 6: even when we win, teams are finding a way to

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Speaker 6: hold the ball, run the ball. And I mean, look, man,

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Speaker 6: it's self explanatory. We've got to find a way to

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Speaker 5: To the next one as well, because something that was

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Speaker 5: there's been some highs, the Giants, the Steelers, then you

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Speaker 5: look at the lows, the Ravens, the Saints. But Mike

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Speaker 5: Zimmer had said something really interesting, and he was addressed

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Speaker 5: pretty much about if the inconsistencies have been addressed.

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Speaker 2: Le's go ahead and listen to what he had to say.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we've we've addressed it. A lot of it is, uh,

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Speaker 11: then sometimes it's the things that you're doing that that

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Speaker 11: now went into half man to your side, it's uh,

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Speaker 3: That that lead to that.

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Speaker 11: So, like I said, I thought we were making progress. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: So aside from the fundamentals, aside from the maximizing practice

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Speaker 8: Is it skiing?

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Speaker 11: What?

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Speaker 5: What is it?

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Speaker 10: I don't I don't mean to bring the whole practice

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Speaker 10: in the way you prepare for a game.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful.

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Speaker 8: Yes, wow, there we go. Okay, you'all take.

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Speaker 2: That's all I crying.

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Speaker 6: I agree that it does show up in practice, But

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Speaker 6: don't care what level you play football at. You know,

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Speaker 6: He's always say there's a difference between fast and stupid,

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Speaker 6: like you could go out here, you can play fast

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Speaker 6: all you want to, but if you're wrong, you're gonna

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Speaker 6: all of those things are showing up in practice the

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Speaker 6: small things like that. I mean, they're so small, but

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Speaker 6: these are the small things that can get you beat.

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Speaker 2: My man. And so that's what's happening to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: And when you hear a coach stand up and say

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Speaker 6: prepared enough. I mean, all it is to me football

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Speaker 6: is you watch the film, you go out and you

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Speaker 6: of twelve thirteen trips, pro twins, whatever. You know where

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Speaker 6: the ball is going to be. And so it's going

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Speaker 6: you're asking yourself as you're watching the film, what the.

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Speaker 2: Hell was he looking at? Oh? Where the hell was

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Speaker 6: And Mike Zimmer has to stand up there and answer

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Speaker 6: a question like that, And it's because on film it

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we talked about it yesterday and I

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Speaker 7: because they're not practicing rep to rep right, they're practicing

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Speaker 7: or they can just turn the switch on.

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Speaker 3: And Hick will put.

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Speaker 7: It beautifully in that this is this is the NFL

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Speaker 7: you play at, where you know the margin of error

442
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Speaker 7: might be a little bit larger than usual and you're

443
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Speaker 7: depending more on your talent than the next person talent. Okay, cool,

444
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Speaker 7: Well guess what in the NFL that guy you're lining

445
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Speaker 7: up against, he's just as talented as you are, and

446
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Speaker 7: that's why he's getting paid as well. So you have

447
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Speaker 7: to you have to make sure you're on your p's

448
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Speaker 7: and q's every single time.

449
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Speaker 3: And it is muscle memory.

450
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Speaker 7: You need to practice out here on this field every

451
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Speaker 7: single rep like it's your last rep. You need to

452
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Speaker 7: get to the point where it's just it's muscle memory.

453
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Speaker 7: Like heck Ma said, it's cruise control. You're on an autopilot.

454
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Speaker 7: It's no different than when you're driving a car. When

455
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Speaker 7: you first learn to drive a car, you were tight,

456
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Speaker 7: you were tense, you were afraid to make mistakes, and

457
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Speaker 7: you were making mistakes. But the more repetition you had

458
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Speaker 7: with driving the car, now you find yourself sometimes accidentally

459
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Speaker 7: floating away mentally, but the car is still.

460
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Speaker 2: Straight in this skin. Right, What the hell was that? Right?

461
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Speaker 7: But when when you come back, you mad like four

462
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Speaker 7: turns and you right your destination and you might not

463
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Speaker 7: remember how you even got to the destination, but you

464
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Speaker 7: got That's a scary thing.

465
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Speaker 8: Not always I've passed.

466
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Speaker 3: That's fair, but you can.

467
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Speaker 7: The point being you can train your mind your body

468
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Speaker 7: to do what it needs to do without thought. And

469
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Speaker 7: when you can do that, especially in the game of football,

470
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Speaker 7: and especially at the NFL level, now you're competing. That's

471
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Speaker 7: the difference between being a practice squad guy and being

472
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Speaker 7: an all pro is how how much do you practice?

473
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Speaker 7: How effective are you in your practice? Because we talk

474
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Speaker 7: about reps, reps, reprips, reps. It's not just reps, it's

475
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Speaker 7: quality of reps.

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Speaker 3: Right.

477
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Speaker 7: If I give you one hundred snaps in drop back

478
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Speaker 7: coverage in this one on one, okay, that's part one

479
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Speaker 7: of the formula. Part two is how effective are you

480
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Speaker 7: attacking each one of these reps? Are you being like

481
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Speaker 7: a daisical about it because it's not a game and

482
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Speaker 7: you're like, oh, I know how to turn this on

483
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Speaker 7: in the game. You try doing that and you're gonna

484
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Speaker 7: get walked forty seven to nine.

485
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Speaker 5: So did the same thing translate to the lack of

486
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Speaker 5: physicality that this team is shrung? Because dang yeah, Because

487
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Speaker 5: I mean there, they're ranked fifth in most mistackles. And

488
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Speaker 5: that's something that every single coach harped on yesterday, was

489
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Speaker 5: the lack of physicality. I mean, hell, even the players

490
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Speaker 5: said it postgame. So do you think that that translates

491
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Speaker 5: to the physicality.

492
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Speaker 6: Look, I have a hard time believing that guys that

493
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Speaker 6: have played football their entire lives have a lack of physics.

494
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Speaker 2: You know, I just I just don't. I don't feel

495
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Speaker 2: that in it.

496
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Speaker 6: Look, I do a podcast with a got with Barry Church,

497
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Speaker 6: and one of the things that I've admired and loved

498
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Speaker 6: about his career, Barry Church, no matter what his limitations

499
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Speaker 6: were that made him go undrafted, there was one thing

500
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Speaker 6: about it, one component to this.

501
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Speaker 2: Game that was their physicality.

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Speaker 6: If Barry Church was a guy, if you go turn

503
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Speaker 6: it like turn the tape on Barry with hey with

504
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Speaker 6: knock the.

505
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Speaker 2: Meat out your topic, he will put you in the dirt.

506
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Speaker 6: And that's what Those are things that you just necessary,

507
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Speaker 6: like you just you have to play with that. And

508
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Speaker 6: when that's that's gonna go to the whole the physicality

509
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Speaker 6: deal goes to the soft and all of those other

510
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Speaker 6: and it's like a snowball effect to things that don't

511
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Speaker 6: coincide with being a professional football player. I think guys

512
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Speaker 6: don't understand the assignment. I don't think they can play

513
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Speaker 6: free with muscle because they don't they don't have the

514
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Speaker 6: muscle memory, because they don't know where they are, they

515
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Speaker 6: can't get lined up correctly, and once the ball is snapped,

516
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Speaker 6: I don't give it.

517
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Speaker 2: Damn where you are?

518
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Speaker 3: You done?

519
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

520
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Speaker 6: So all the physicality goes out the window anyway. But

521
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Speaker 6: I just Nicole, I just have a hard time buying that.

522
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Speaker 6: But when players reiterate that and they can't just tell you, like, man,

523
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Speaker 6: it's butt on on your door, you know what I'm saying.

524
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Speaker 6: Maybe those are some of the things. I just the

525
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Speaker 6: physicality part. I just have a hard time believing that.

526
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not ever gonna sit here and believe that

527
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Speaker 7: there's an NFL player. I don't care what team they're on.

528
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Speaker 7: To me, there is no such thing as a soft

529
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Speaker 7: NFL player. If you're talking about physicality, what you see

530
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Speaker 7: on film is a display of how keyed in they are,

531
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Speaker 7: how disciplined they are, and how much effort they're putting

532
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Speaker 7: into that particular play. It's a common nation of those

533
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Speaker 7: three things, right. So if this guy's getting beat off

534
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Speaker 7: the block, I don't think it's because that guy's more

535
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Speaker 7: physically aggressive.

536
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Speaker 3: Than this particular guy.

537
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Speaker 7: I think maybe this guy missed his key, or he

538
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Speaker 7: wasn't paying attention in practice or the meeting room, or

539
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 7: something went wrong there. For this particular gual, maybe his

540
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 7: mind floated away before that rep and he just got

541
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Speaker 7: blown up, right, which then kind of goes to what

542
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Speaker 7: I think if you're going to use the word soft

543
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Speaker 7: number one, it doesn't apply to the physical aspect of it.

544
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Speaker 3: For me.

545
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Speaker 7: It goes to how what's your mental ability to bounce

546
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Speaker 7: back after something bad happens to you? Because in this league,

547
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Speaker 7: bad things are going to happen to you, not just

548
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Speaker 7: on a game the game or week the week based

549
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Speaker 7: on a rep to rep basis. If heck MA and

550
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Speaker 7: I line up on that field right now, I'll win some,

551
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Speaker 7: he'll win some. But when he wins some, how do

552
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Speaker 7: I mentally bounce back from that? Am I getting down

553
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Speaker 7: on myself? Is my head down? Are the people around me?

554
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Speaker 7: To your point yesterday? Are people around me letting me

555
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Speaker 7: hang my head? Letting me get down on myself? Because

556
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Speaker 7: then that perpetuates itself over the next rep, in the

557
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Speaker 7: next rep, and the next rep, and before you know it,

558
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Speaker 7: the opposite team who scored on the opening drive, probably

559
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Speaker 7: because I gave up a big play downfield and oh

560
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Speaker 7: my god, it's woe is me. I can't Maybe I

561
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Speaker 7: don't belong here. Whatever the mental aspect, now you give

562
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Speaker 7: up another chunk play, another chunk play, another chunk play.

563
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Speaker 7: Now you're part of the bigger problem for that loss,

564
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Speaker 7: versus the opposite side of it, which would be to say, okay,

565
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Speaker 7: you got me, run it back, run it back. That's

566
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Speaker 7: if you keep that mindset, then you will have a

567
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Speaker 7: greater chance of being successful, not just in football but

568
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Speaker 7: in life in general. So the resiliency part of it,

569
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Speaker 7: I'm willing to entertain that maybe there are some on

570
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Speaker 7: this roster that could benefit from better leadership as far

571
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Speaker 7: as pulling that guy to the side, maybe even in

572
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Speaker 7: real time, and saying, hey, you know what, you gave

573
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Speaker 7: up that big play, I see you on the sideline,

574
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Speaker 7: kind of getting down here, get up, head up.

575
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Speaker 3: Maybe more of that.

576
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Speaker 7: But as far as the physicality, the physical part of it,

577
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Speaker 7: these guys are physically as gifted and as design well

578
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Speaker 7: designed as anybody else in the league.

579
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Speaker 3: So the rest is the mental.

580
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm sure use the word soft at all because

581
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Speaker 10: I think it's I mean with.

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Speaker 8: These guys, they're all pretty tough.

583
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Speaker 2: Now.

584
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Speaker 10: To me, my respective would be a lack of motivation

585
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Speaker 10: because when you get to the game, I think everybody

586
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 10: turns on that competitive side of them automatically. That's just

587
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 10: gonna happen, even if you're not an athlete. Like if

588
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 10: we're playing a game right now, we're gonna be in

589
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Speaker 10: the game and trying to give it our best.

590
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Speaker 8: But it is what you prepare the way.

591
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Speaker 10: And again I don't mean to sound like a broken record,

592
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Speaker 10: but what kind of work are you putting in to

593
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Speaker 10: be prepared for that game? And then that starts showing

594
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Speaker 10: up or you just look like you start having all

595
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Speaker 10: these mistackles And I the thought of like the injuries

596
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 10: that have occurred popped into my head and I don't

597
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Speaker 10: want to and then they pop right out. Because when

598
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Speaker 10: you think about certain guys, I do respect them a

599
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Speaker 10: lot in the work and how they prepare. Like de

600
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Speaker 10: Marcus Lawrence, for example, I do believe he knows how

601
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Speaker 10: to do things right. But he led me to thinking

602
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Speaker 10: because we know, like when you're not playing correctly, that

603
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Speaker 10: could lead to injuries, and we talk about it when

604
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 10: you are out of the playoff run already, but you

605
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 10: gotta you have guys that still have to go out there.

606
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 10: So it's just me trying to find an answer as

607
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 10: to why all these injuries have occurred. Does that have

608
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 10: something to do with practice and maybe their body is

609
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 10: being differently. I'm switching the conversation here, but I'll bring

610
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Speaker 10: it right back with I think that the aggressive aggressiveness

611
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 10: is there, but not to the full capacity and full

612
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 10: potential that it could be due to the lack of preparation.

613
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Speaker 10: And if one guy that they have to look at

614
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Speaker 10: and use it as an example, Jordan Lewis is a

615
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 10: clear demonstration of what that should look like on the field.

616
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Speaker 10: He's been showcasing that this last few games this season,

617
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 10: in practices in games, and we saw it a clear demonstration.

618
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Speaker 10: I mean, he's one of the few guys that he

619
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Speaker 10: was giving I mean, I don't want to say everybody,

620
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Speaker 10: no one was giving it. They don't, but he was

621
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Speaker 10: clearly someone. You look at him against Detroit. He's fired up,

622
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 10: He's out there, he's trying, you see, And that's the

623
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 10: thing like when you see somebody trying, even if you

624
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 10: mess up and you lose, I understand like at least

625
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 10: you try.

626
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Speaker 5: That's that you enjoyed in him.

627
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 8: He got that dog in him.

628
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Speaker 5: He also has been undersized his whole career, so that's

629
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Speaker 5: something that he's happening.

630
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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's always had that chip on his shoulder. He's

631
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 7: always been going hard. So see that goes to the

632
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 7: mental aspect of it, the quest and again I don't

633
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Speaker 7: want to use the words so well, I'm not going

634
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 7: to use the word soft, be it physically or mentally,

635
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 7: because mentally it's just a matter of how can you

636
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 7: bounce back?

637
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: How can you be resilient?

638
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 7: And when you see these guys winning on the road,

639
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 7: and there's a lot of other context here, who are

640
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 7: they playing on the road versus who are they're playing

641
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 7: at home?

642
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: Who are they without versus who are they with? Injury wise?

643
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 7: All of that stuff matters, But what also matters is

644
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 7: when your number is called and you're that next guy up.

645
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 7: Granted you haven't been in the league five years and

646
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 7: you don't have a ton of reps. Okay, understood, But

647
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 7: when you get beat off of that last rep as

648
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 7: a young guy, what are you thinking?

649
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 3: My question to them right after that will be what

650
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: are you thinking? Are you? Are you champion?

651
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: At the bit.

652
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 7: I can't wait to get back out there so I

653
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 7: can win this next. Most guys hang their head, right,

654
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 7: Most guys hang their head. And that's where I'm not

655
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 7: going to say mental softness, but there needs to be

656
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 7: a greater strength at home because they're they're not just

657
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 7: that Heck said yesterday. They're not just getting beat at home.

658
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 7: They're getting humiliated at home. And the resiliency we're seeing

659
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 7: in games like against Pittsburgh, we're not. We didn't see

660
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Speaker 7: it seven days later against the Detroit Lions in your

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Speaker 3: Is all right, what are you done in life?

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Speaker 2: You know, go to Howard? There you go?

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Speaker 9: All right?

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Speaker 8: Which is a must fix.

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Speaker 5: I actually stole this from Derek Eagleton. Shout out to

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Speaker 5: him for this, which is a must fix.

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Speaker 3: But I had a little twist run horns continue, wow,

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Speaker 3: all right?

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Speaker 5: Which is a musk fixed first run defense or past defense?

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Speaker 3: And why run defense because it helps past defense?

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Speaker 8: Hey, I guess that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: I mean yeah, but if you had to prioritize, so okay.

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Speaker 3: It's run defense.

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Speaker 7: I've always been a huge advocate of you build from

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Speaker 7: front to back right because if you if you stop

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Speaker 7: the run, then it forces teams to become one dimensional

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Speaker 7: and it gives you more opportunities of assuming your pass

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Speaker 7: rush is there. It gives you more opportunities to possibly

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Speaker 7: take the ball away because they have to throw forty

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Speaker 7: fifty times again.

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Speaker 5: But hear me out last year rebuttal come with last year.

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Speaker 5: Run defense was still a problem. The secondary was ultimately

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Speaker 5: the breadwinter this. So it's kind of like, how.

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Speaker 2: Far did get That's one.

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Speaker 7: Here's the other thing. Even without Trayvon, what was your

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Speaker 7: quality of cornerback? It was extremely high, right, So you

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Speaker 7: better have the personnel. You better have the personnel in

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Speaker 7: your secondary cornerback and safety in order to overcompensate for

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Speaker 7: you not having the run defense. And that's why they

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Speaker 7: were at least able to get twelve wins. But then,

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Speaker 7: like heck Ma said, where did it end up getting them?

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Speaker 7: And I don't want to play Caparon Rodgers Aaron Jones.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to play Captain obvious on this because

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Speaker 7: I feel like football one on one tells you that

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Speaker 7: if you can't stop the run, then everything is it

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Speaker 7: turns into a buffet. And that's what you've been seeing

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Speaker 7: from teams that you know they can have a double

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Speaker 7: triple reverse, you know they hooking.

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Speaker 6: Lab they can do whatever they want to do. They

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Speaker 6: can do whatever they want to do when you can't

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Speaker 6: stop the run. So I think our run defense has

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Speaker 6: been that been the problem. And I think for coach Zimmer,

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Speaker 6: I'm with you, an Bar. I really when he came in,

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Speaker 6: I had those hopes that man, he was gonna fix this.

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Speaker 6: If anything, we are not going to get rant on,

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Speaker 6: you know, whatever whatever's painting us, that is not going

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Speaker 6: to be the problem with Zim in here. And it's

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Speaker 6: just I mean, I'm sitting back and I'm watching offensive

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Speaker 6: coordinators pick him apart, and I'm like, damn, is the

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Speaker 6: film out on Zim? You know, because Zim was in

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Speaker 6: the coach for a long time, so you know, even

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Speaker 6: when he adjusts, they're like, oh, oh you adjusted to

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Speaker 6: that all right, crossing route for.

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Speaker 5: That adjustment, all right, what would you fix safety room

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Speaker 5: or linebackers?

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Speaker 8: Well, hold on, I had something else. I just thought

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Speaker 8: of it too. In my mind.

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Speaker 10: I'm like, okay, okay, I'm with you guys stopping the run.

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Speaker 10: But also because how bad your offense is playing, like

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Speaker 10: for you to be able to get out of the field,

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Speaker 10: and like less time is by you stopping the run,

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Speaker 10: Like if you if they keep running on you, you

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Speaker 10: keep you stay on the field, you're taking up the

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Speaker 10: getting worn. Now finally they're off the field, maybe after

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Speaker 10: they score a touch on you, offense comes in, you

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Speaker 10: look down for a second, look up their back out,

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Speaker 10: defenses back. This is from personal experience right here that

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Speaker 10: I'm speaking, I'm like, whoa, they're coming back out again.

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Speaker 8: But anyways, yes, I would stop the run.

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Speaker 5: Okay, safety room or linebackers must fix first?

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Speaker 7: Why well, I say linebackers, knowing that Kendricks is coming

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Speaker 7: back so and he only missed one game fingers crossed.

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Speaker 7: He only missed one game because he's dealing with calf

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Speaker 7: and the shoulder. And Mike McCarthy did sound kind of

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Speaker 7: con learn about the calf because he's been dealing with

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Speaker 7: the calf Kendricks has at some point in his career before.

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Speaker 3: But actually, you know, with that being said, let me

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Speaker 3: go safeties. Let me go safeties.

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Speaker 7: And the reason I say safeties is because I've seen

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Speaker 7: each of the two starting safeties play at a higher

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Speaker 7: level of football than they're playing thus far this season.

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Speaker 7: I've seen Donovan Wilson play better football than he's playing

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Speaker 7: this season. I've seen Malik Hooker play better football than

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Speaker 7: he's playing this season, which tells me, you know that

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Speaker 7: they're not where they should be. And that's concerning to me,

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Speaker 7: and it's concerning to them as well. So when we

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Speaker 7: talked to Melie Hooker following the loss against Detroit, he

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Speaker 7: you know, he understands and he's taking accountability for his

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Speaker 7: part in all of it. But then it makes you

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Speaker 7: wonder why a guy like while why elst Dono and

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Speaker 7: Malik a struggling? Why not get some young invigoration in there,

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Speaker 7: like a jan Ye right because last game they didn't

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Speaker 7: play play wan Ye for kick return. I talked to

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Speaker 7: bones Fossil about that they did more single back with turpens,

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Speaker 7: so teams couldn't kick the Troit lines couldn't kick away

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Speaker 7: from tur one year Thomas, that should have freed him

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Speaker 7: up for more snaps to be available on defense, but

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Speaker 7: we didn't necessarily see that happen. So I think that's

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Speaker 7: how you kind of help add some energy to the

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Speaker 7: safety room and maybe that helps, you know, get Donovan

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Speaker 7: and Leak back to playing how they were in twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty three and twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just not seeing it yet. Linebackers.

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Speaker 7: When Kendrick comes back, and I love with the Mario

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Speaker 7: on the show, and I'm already impressed with Marits and

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Speaker 7: he was green Dot on Sunday in only his sixth

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Speaker 7: NFL game.

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Speaker 3: That's insane. That's insane.

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Speaker 2: Leave some meat on that bone, Okay a little bit.

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Speaker 6: So that's what who out the group I was talking

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Speaker 6: about about being playing fast and stupid is literally the

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Speaker 6: safety room is when we were talking in the first

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Speaker 6: thirty minute segment.

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Speaker 12: About is the preparation thirty.

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Speaker 6: The preparation And you're seeing these guys a line a

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Speaker 6: line wrong, you know, approaching everything, the angle that they're

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Speaker 6: taking for tackles wrong. Even when Donald, to me, I

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Speaker 6: have so much respect for him as a box safety,

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Speaker 6: you know, I see some of the I'm like, man,

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Speaker 6: that's a different version of number six that I'm seeing.

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Speaker 6: But to me, it's the linebackers, man. And I understand

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Speaker 6: that the linebacker's job and Zimmer scheme really relies heavily

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Speaker 6: on what's happening in front of them, and I think

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Speaker 6: that handicaps them as well. But man, it's just like

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Speaker 6: guys like Overshawn and I know he has this this

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Speaker 6: he's a physical specimen and a guy that has a

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Speaker 6: lot of speed that isn't able to show it. And

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Speaker 6: when they scheme and run right at him, a lot

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Speaker 6: of times the Leo file. However, when you look at Dirty,

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Speaker 6: I mean, he does a lot of good things. He's

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Speaker 6: very physical, but then there are other times you look

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Speaker 6: at him, he looks like he's lost. You know, he

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Speaker 6: looks like he looks exactly But that's that do you

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Speaker 6: hang your head or do you come back and you

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Speaker 6: go and you go harder. And I've seen him come

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Speaker 6: back and not hang his head. There just there's just

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Speaker 6: so many things in that linebacker room for so many

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Speaker 6: years that we've been looking for, and we've been asking

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Speaker 6: ourselves like if we could ever finally shore up this

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Speaker 6: middle linebacker position. I feel like we're cooking with something,

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Speaker 6: but I just it's still leaving a lot to be desired.

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Speaker 6: Last game without Eric Kendricks, we look like a completely

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Speaker 6: different defense. It looked, and from this from the alignment

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Speaker 6: standpoint getting lined up, it was like, oh man, we

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Speaker 6: are missing our lineback. We're missing Eric Kendricks. And it's

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Speaker 6: and it makes so much of a difference between the

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Speaker 6: guys that actually understand the defense are the guys that

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Speaker 6: are just you know.

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Speaker 2: Being coached.

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Speaker 5: So you look at last week, they actually had merits.

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Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken as the green. Yeah, so he

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Speaker 5: had to line everybody up. That's a rookie, I mean,

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Speaker 5: so one. It kind of says a lot about this

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Speaker 5: coaching staff that they still trust him a lot more

878
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: than other guys that roster, which is kind of scary.

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Speaker 10: It's been great. I mean, I'm a fan of the

880
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 10: linebacker group. I think the linebackers are a very talented

881
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 10: group when everybody's healthy. Of course, now I think they're

882
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 10: only going to be as good as your defensive line is.

883
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 10: Like when the defensive line is not giving them the

884
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 10: help that they need. It showcases like you see where

885
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 10: they're struggling. So I do think it's a talented group.

886
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 10: But I would be focused more on the linebackers as well,

887
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 10: mainly because they can help what you're trying to get fixed,

888
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 10: which is stopping the run. They can be very big

889
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 10: help right there. So it's kind of both. I just

890
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 10: think it all starts with the defensive line and what

891
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 10: the line is doing, and then it just trickles down

892
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 10: from there.

893
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 7: It's too many downfield plays happening right now for me,

894
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 7: whether you talk about I mean, that is true too.

895
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Speaker 3: And we talk about.

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Speaker 7: Shahid and Alive, what they did with the Saints, and

897
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 7: you know what the Ravens were able to do in

898
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 7: stretching the field, and now what the lines were able

899
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 7: to do with stretching the field. Talk about that deep

900
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 7: pass down without money in coverage. Safeties are going to

901
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 7: have to step up, and they know they're going to

902
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 7: have to step up, and we've seen them play better,

903
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 7: so now they just need to get back to playing better.

904
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 5: It's also like a trickle down effect. The defensive lines

905
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 5: not doing what they need to do, so the linebackers

906
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,359
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00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 7: To overcompensate for the linebackers who are overcompensated for the

908
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,640
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909
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Speaker 3: That's why you stop the run first.

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Speaker 5: I'm just waiting, all right, before we wrap things up,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna go through our little individual report card, all right, Okay?

959
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 8: One through ten? I think?

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00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: Is it? One through ten A and F.

961
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 8: I switched it up a little bit. I don't want

962
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Speaker 8: it to be like.

963
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 6: It's more variance with one two you can kind of

964
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 6: I can't say see minus.

965
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: F plus so one being bad, ten being the best.

966
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, five, like all right, Chevon Diggs, HEGMA six.

967
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: Seven.

968
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 7: I don't think he'd be this good this soon. He

969
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 7: had a bad game, but he's coming off at twenty.

970
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 7: I don't think he played this well this this one.

971
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 8: Five six and a half, all right, Jordan Lewis, Mr Jordans,

972
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give him a nine.

973
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: Okay, nine point seventy five. I'm gonna go full.

974
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 6: I see where this is going, and I'm not gonna

975
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 6: go I'm not gonna go I'm you know what I'm

976
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 6: gonna go. I'm gonna go nine as well. And I

977
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 6: think he is one of the bright spots of your defense.

978
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 6: His you just talked about him and Detroit. He was

979
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 6: one of the guys that you saw didn't fold up

980
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 6: his tent and leave early. He was still competing and

981
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 6: whether it was a hometown thing, deep you know, we're

982
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 6: gonna show me up against you know, Detroit. So he's

983
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 6: absolutely been a bright spot for the defense.

984
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 5: I was gonna go eight just because he's been one

985
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 5: of the most if not the consistent, most consistent player

986
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 5: on this defense. And you already know what you're gonna

987
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 5: get every time you you get on the field with

988
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 5: Jordan Lewis. All right, damone Clark Patrick, I'm.

989
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 7: Gonna go Five'll be fair fair to him because he's

990
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 7: not been getting the reps because of how great merit

991
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 7: has as far as coming along as a rookie to

992
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 7: Marven overshown back fully healthy.

993
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: You got Eric Kendricks.

994
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 7: There's there's only so many linebacker snaps to go around,

995
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 7: so I don't want to give him a demerit for that.

996
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 7: His first shot was against the Lions on Sunday, and

997
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 7: he was one of the few bright spots. He was

998
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 7: out there absolutely cooking both pass rush, he got his

999
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 7: first career half a sec, he helped stop the run

1000
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 7: when he could, and he also had a PBu in

1001
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 7: the end zone. Right, So I'm going to give him

1002
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 7: a five. Let's split the difference there.

1003
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 8: I like that.

1004
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 2: I'll go five. I mean just yeah, I'll go five.

1005
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 8: All right, same.

1006
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: Fives all around.

1007
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Donovan Wilson's crazy.

1008
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 8: Just talk about them.

1009
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 7: Donald. I'm gonna give Donald a four. I think Donald

1010
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 7: has left a lot on the table, made a lot

1011
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 7: of mistakes and whether it's not knowing the defense, not

1012
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 7: being sure, not being able to play fast. I just

1013
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 7: think right now safeties are struggling and it's an area

1014
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 7: that over the bye week, I'm sure colch Zimmer is

1015
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 7: trying to get these guys on board with what he's

1016
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 7: trying to scheme up.

1017
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: I'll go four.

1018
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 7: Also, I've seen Donald make some plays this year, but

1019
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 7: again he's not playing to the to the level that

1020
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 7: we know he can play. So there's a lot to take.

1021
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 7: What helped me said, there's a lot of meat on

1022
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 7: that bone. So I'm gonna go foward with Donald Redny.

1023
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 10: I don't want to do the point five, but I'll

1024
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 10: do the three point five again, the same thing that

1025
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 10: you guys said.

1026
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 8: I've seen him be one of the.

1027
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 10: Most aggressive tacklers on the defense, and he's far from

1028
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 10: being that right now. But I know he has it

1029
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 10: in him. So I don't know what it needs to happen,

1030
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 10: but I know he can do it. He just needs

1031
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 10: to do it.

1032
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, I'm gonna go four as well. Mazzie

1033
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 5: Smith last one.

1034
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 7: Patrick, you know I'm gonna go five on Mazzi. Reason,

1035
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 7: I say, because he's had ebbs and flows. But if

1036
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 7: you're comparing this season to what he was last season,

1037
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 7: there's no comparison, so he still has room to grow.

1038
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 7: But the growth that I've seen under Zimmer, like he

1039
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 7: put the weight back on and his get off his

1040
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 7: a little bit faster, and I've seen him impact the

1041
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 7: opposing offense in a negative way on more than one occasion.

1042
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 7: Last year, I didn't see it at all as he

1043
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 7: was trying to gain a role behind Jonathan Hankins. So

1044
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 7: I'm gonna give him a five. He's definitely making progress.

1045
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go three. And it's just that it's too much, man.

1046
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 7: It's like that is the biggest part of our defense

1047
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 7: right now. If you look at the middle of our defense,

1048
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 7: we are not getting the production that we need, no

1049
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 7: matter how we scheme it up. If your your one

1050
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 7: technique is getting pushed back like that. And it was

1051
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 7: on the play with the mont Clark Montgomery on his

1052
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 7: first touchdown, I mean literally Mazzie Smith takes out the

1053
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 7: the Moon Clark as well, and it's like it's too

1054
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 7: many of those plays and he, I mean, he has

1055
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 7: to improve, It has to be better.

1056
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 10: I would give him probably a three and a half

1057
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 10: writing between there mainly because yes, although he has shown

1058
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 10: progress and he is improving.

1059
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 8: The bar is set so low it's.

1060
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 10: Like down here, when in reality the bar should be

1061
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 10: right around up here. Because because of that and so

1062
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 10: it's yes, progress, it's just like he he needs to

1063
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 10: be more.

1064
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 8: He needs to be more more.

1065
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 5: If we were talking after the Giants game, I would

1066
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 5: have said a six, just because you saw that high

1067
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 5: motor that we've been.

1068
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 4: Looking for not being able.

1069
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: To make body of work.

1070
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 4: We saw the body of work.

1071
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 5: But no, we saw him kind of man handled double

1072
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 5: take on double teams and just playing so well in

1073
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 5: physical So if it were after the Giants game, I

1074
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 5: would have give him a six, But now it's kind

1075
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 5: of declined, so I'm gonna go with the four.

1076
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 14: Well, this has been.

1077
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 5: Fun, guys.

1078
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: I hate to see y'all go.

1079
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 5: Yes, hopefully all will come fast.

1080
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: This has been great homework though I just want to cry.

1081
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: Thirty minutes thirty.

1082
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: You stopf thirty.

1083
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 5: This has been great And Patrick, no c Walker.

1084
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 8: Heck, my hair is.

1085
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 7: So long.

1086
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,600
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1087
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