WEBVTT - #459 Packers Unscripted: KC close-up 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:20.920 Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.560 I am Mike Spofford. Heath is the one and only 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.360 West Hot Quits. We're coming to you here from our 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:29.440 studios at lambeau Field and West. The Packers opponent this 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.640 Sunday Sunday night football prime time, in fact, the Kansas 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.479 City Chiefs. The Packers will be traveling to Arrowhead Stadium, 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.599 and as recently as a week ago, this look at 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:46.040 the opponent seemingly would have been a lot of chatter 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.200 about the reigning league m v P and Patrick Mahomes, 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:53.000 but that won't be the case here now. Nothing is 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:57.800 official in terms of mahomes availability for Sunday Nights game, 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.520 but all signs are pointing to the fact that he 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.280 will not be able to play due to his knee 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:07.560 injury from last Thursday night against the Broncos, and the 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.800 Kansas City Chiefs are turning their offense over to the 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.720 veteran backup Matt Moore. Yes, so, a couple of things 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:16.360 that across my mind when I first saw this first 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.400 and foremost to touch on what you were mentioning dislocated 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.440 kneecap for Patrick Mahomes. The reports coming out of there, 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.640 and I think even their team doctor who addressed the 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.720 media about this was saying, you know, no ligament damage, 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.080 it's just that kneecap. They have to be smart about it. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:31.440 I think he's going to wear a sleep when he 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.560 comes back. The optics of it, though, considering he's at 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.560 this point, now what nine days out from the injury, 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.040 you're guessing that you're probably not going to want to 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:45.000 see him out there in potentially risk an aggravation of 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.840 some kind. I wouldn't think. So that's where this biggest 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:52.080 conversation is coming from, especially considering, you know, the grand 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:53.480 scheme of things here. They want to be able to 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:54.960 win a Super Bowl. They want him to leave them 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.120 into the playoffs. You've got to be smart. Now. Again, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.240 we'll see what the week takes as far as its course. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.040 Matt More was a really interesting case study, though, because 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.080 we've seen this a couple of times the last few years, 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.320 Mike not very often though, where a guy who was 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:11.720 completely out of the NFL for an entire season is 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.799 then suddenly thrust into a starting situation. The Packers went 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.040 through it with Seneca Wallace in two thousand thirteen. Josh 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.560 McCown is a guy that was out of football, returned 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.639 to the game and certainly is you know, made a 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.720 nice career for himself that second sort of life to 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.760 his NFL career. Matt Moore is a guy personally I've 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.760 always been very high on. I was I've always respected 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.560 him as a backup quarterback. I think a lot of 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.880 that came from watching Hard Knocks the year that Ryan 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.160 Tannehill was drafted, and he was kind of the transitionary 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:45.080 quarterback and played pretty well for Joe Philbin early on. 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.400 And then you know, he was with the Carolina Panthers 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.440 for a while and kind of ushered in the Cam 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:51.880 Newton era. But the fact of the matter is is 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.560 he did not play in the NFL last year, and 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.760 he's thirty five years old. He's a guy who knows 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:57.800 how to win. He's played a lot of football at 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.760 the very highest of levels. But it's gonna be natural 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.600 question marks there, because when a guy steps away from 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.240 the game and then comes back to it and then 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:06.359 here we are a month and a half in of 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:09.880 the season and now you're playing naturally, there's just gonna 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.919 be some wonder of, Okay, what does he still have left. Yeah, 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:16.600 I think not to oversimplify things too much, but we 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.480 saw last year with Patrick Mahomes winning the league m 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.919 v P. There's so much offense that he can create 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.680 on his own that you know, the play breaks down, 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.320 whatever it takes. Patrick Mahomes would find a way to 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.120 make a play. Now, Matt Moore is not going to 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.560 bring that element to the Kansas City Chiefs offense. But 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.080 this Kansas City Chiefs offense does have playmakers, and this 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.240 game for Kansas City will be about how does Matt 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.160 Moore get the ball into the hands of these playmakers. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.400 And the two of course that jump out to me 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.080 that are at the top of my list are tight 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.640 end Travis Kelsey, who is the leading receiver by quite 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:57.040 a significant margin for this Chief's offense, and then Tyreek Hill, 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.560 who is back from injury and is the is the 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.600 speeds stir and the really dangerous explosive guy wants the 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:05.160 balls in his hands. Yeah, and if you could look 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.800 at last week's game, now, certainly a lot of it 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.000 was garbage minutes, but Matt Moore did fine. I mean 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.080 ten of nineteen seventeen yards and a touchdown. He navigated 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:13.840 the offense and there are a lot of weapons he's 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.480 going to be able to work off of. To give 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.240 people a little bit of a backstory here, the whole 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.320 plan going into the season's chat Henny the former Michigan quarterback, 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.279 now in his twelfth NFL season, was going to be 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.919 the backup to Mahomes. He ends up suffering a season 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:26.919 ending injury. So then here comes Matt More off the 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:29.640 street and suddenly he's thrown into this predicament. But what 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.840 I like about his backstory and being able to have 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.520 the playmaking and you know experience that he's had in 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.599 the past is you know, you know what you have 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.920 in Tyreek Hill. You know what you have in Shady McCoy, 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.240 Travis Kelsey, one of the best, if not the best 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.680 tight end in the NFL right now. That gives you outlets. 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.720 And I thought one thing you saw in early on 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:50.960 here is that with Andy Reid in the way that 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.960 this offense is structured, it's very quarterback friendly for a 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.159 guy to potentially be thrown in this situation and get 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.880 you a winner too until you can get Patrick Mahomes back. 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.240 The only difference is exactly what you outlined. You look 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.320 at what the Baltimore Ravens are doing right now. Lamar 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.280 Jackson's their quarterback. R G three is their backup. They 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.680 have a guy that plays a similar way to what 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.280 Lamar Jackson does. Yes, Kansas City is not like that. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.120 The offense is going to change when you don't have 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.159 Patrick Mahomes and you're making a shift to an older, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.120 more pocket based quarterback, and that's gonna be one of 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:22.720 the biggest hurdles I think that they're gonna have to 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.520 overcome here. If Matt Moore is the guy on Sunday Night, well, 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:29.479 Travis Kelsey, he's done a heck of a lot for 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.200 the for this Kansas City Chiefs offense. And my question 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.400 do you here is exactly how do you envision or 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.280 do you have any prediction here as to how the 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.880 Packers are going to match up with him? Because we've 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.920 seen the ups and downs with this Packers defense, specifically 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:46.840 against tight ends against Philadelphia. Zach Ertz was a chain mover. 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.640 He was really really key part of what Carson Wentz 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.840 was doing in that Thursday night game at lambeau Field. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.839 Jason Witten of the Cowboys, t J Hockenson and the 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.480 Lions didn't do a whole lot against the Packers there 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.840 there there wasn't a major impact from those guys. Then 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.599 the tight ends led by Darren Waller of the Oakland Raiders, 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.640 they were the big stars, along with obviously running back 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.560 Josh Jacobs of the Oakland Raiders offense and having a 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.240 big day at Lambeu Field. So how do you envision 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.760 Mike Patton going about this matchup here with Travis Kelsey 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.920 get to Matt Moore as quickly as possible? May not, honestly, 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.559 and that's not to be disrespectful the defensive backs. Certainly, 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:23.960 the Packers have a lot of guys that they can 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.480 match up there, but Travis Kelsey is a nightmare for 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.440 any secondary in the NFL. His size, his speed, his athleticism, 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:34.640 his catch radius. How the offense basically runs through him. Now, 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.359 they definitely have big play weapons. You mentioned Hill. Sammy 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.080 Watkins has found some new life in Kansas City. Yeah, Watkins. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:42.840 Watkins is off to McCloy for how many years we've 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.520 seen can catch the ball in the backfield. But let's 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.279 be honest, Mike, where this all starts as Kelsey. So 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.200 I think the quicker that you get on more, the 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.160 faster that you speed up his internal clock, the more 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:53.880 important it's going to be, because, yeah, you can do 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.080 a lot of different things. It can be Orn Burkes, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.479 it can be Adrian Amos. Let's see what the week 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.240 holds here for Darnell Savage through his ankle injury, if 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.520 he could be back in the cards. But you have 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.800 to script your coverage in your plans. You have to 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.680 tailor those two defending Travis Kelsey, so for Zadarius and 0:07:10.760 --> 0:07:14.160 Preston Smith the defensive front. The less time you give 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.560 more to find those weapons, the better it's going to 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.600 be for this defense. Yeah, and when I look at 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.680 Tyreek Hill, and this is taking nothing away from what 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.360 he might be able to do as far as running 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.640 the deep ball and getting over the top. But with 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:31.240 Matt Moore as the quarterback and Andy Reid kind of 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.320 designing drawing some things up, I just see Andy Reid 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.640 trying to find a way, whether it's just quick throws 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.640 to the sideline, short throws, just getting the ball into 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.720 Tyree hills hands and letting him try to make something happen, 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.720 which I think then just puts a huge premium on 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.480 the tackling of the Packers defense because Tyree Hill, if 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.520 he makes big plays in this game. I think for 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.800 the most part, it's going to be if he's breaking 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.320 tackles and getting yards after the catch. If the Packers 0:07:56.760 --> 0:08:00.680 tackle solidly against a very slippery, fast guy and a 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.360 very dangerous guy, I think they can. They can do 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.560 what they need to against Tyreek Hill, but they have 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.720 to tackle the players. You've seen players like Tyreek Hill 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.840 in this league before. It's not like he's just this 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.680 new phenomenon, but what he does and with his skill set, 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.360 his size, and his speed, I've always referred to them 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:21.360 as just second level destroyers, they nests. Now he certainly 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.760 has big play potential. We've seen it. I mean, I mean, 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.040 he's I couldn't even tell you how many forty plus 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.120 yard catches he has in this league. Put a lot 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.560 of them are off of creating opportunities, making the first 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.400 tackler miss and being able to really, you know, weave 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.240 his way down field. And that's why the second level 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:41.480 he really challenges you there, because he challenges your mental mindset, 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.800 your gap, integrity, and what you're looking forward to achieve. 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:49.000 You know, inside those those sticks and he can break them, man, 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:50.760 and they can use them in a lot of different ways. 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.200 I agree with you when when I've always said this, 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.720 You've heard me talk about this numerous times. When you 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.600 have a backup quarterback, what do you need to do? 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:01.280 You need to introduce Chaos and Tyreek Hill and the 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.480 way he plays that can be definitely a player who 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.640 does that because he can go more off script and 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.559 allow more to uh, you know, potentially work underneath and 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:12.320 still have some explosive play possibilities. Yeah, alright, Well, before 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.280 moving on to the defensive side of the ball for 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:18.120 the Chiefs here West, some sponsor business select Cousin Subs 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.840 locations are now offering delivery. Whether you're ordering catering or 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.400 your favorite sub, they're delivering right to you when you 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:28.400 order online at Cousin Subs dot com. Cousin Subs. We 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.240 believe in better and we will get to the defense. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.080 And I'm excited to talk about the defense. But I 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:34.319 also want to say, you're looking at the number one 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:36.920 pass offense in the NFL. You're also looking at the 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.040 number twenty eight run offense in the NFL. You talk 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.800 about Kelsey and all these outside weapons, this is going 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.800 to start for the packers in the trenches and stopping 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.319 McCoy because they've started to lean more towards him. The 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.160 Damien Williams experiment hasn't really worked out the way it 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.760 did late last season when they need to lean on him. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.040 If you stop McCoy and you can stop that running game, 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:58.240 that's what starts you get allowing you to be you 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.679 can make them more one dimensional and allow you to 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.319 kind of defend the rest of the field from there. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.680 That's going to be the primary objective I feel in 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.000 this game. Yeah, And certainly with the Chiefs looking at 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.280 the film of what the Oakland Raiders did with Josh 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.680 Jacobs and with Matt Moore being the backup quarterback, they're 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.360 going to try to pound the ball in the ground, 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.760 excuse me, and get something generated, get something started there. 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.480 The ground game is going to be a really good 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.920 best friend of Matt Moore here if the Chiefs can 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:24.599 get it going, and that's why the Packers have to 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.400 stop it. Yeah. On the defensive side of the ball, now, 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.839 this is a team that reached the a f C 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.800 Championship Game a year ago, lost in overtime. If I 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.559 recall to the New England Patriots in that a f 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.839 C title game, but they overhauled their defense. They got 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.000 rid of pretty much the entire defensive coaching staff. They 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.240 changed some of the key guys, especially the pass rushers 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.240 um on that side of the ball. Justin Houston d 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.319 Ford where their bookend pass rushers coach by Mike Smith 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.240 who is now the outside linebackers coach of the Smith 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.000 Brothers and others here in Green Bay, Houston and Ford. 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.920 They racked up a lot of sacks, takeaways, turnover opportunities 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.040 for the Kansas City Chiefs. But they decided to move on. 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:12.800 They've rebuilt this defense and quite frankly, they haven't gotten 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.480 the results that they were looking for. Um, what what's 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.560 your sense right now of where this Kansas City Chiefs 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.800 defense is? Well, it's got check time because I'll tell 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.480 you what, D four. It's quickly becoming one of the 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.560 biggest playmakers in that defense for the San Francisco forty Niners. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.560 Really good defense out there in Frisco. Yeah, they're gonna 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.199 be a problem here for the rest of the NFC. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.960 They made the trade to get Frank Clark, and I 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:35.839 couldn't tell you, honestly, I haven't watched Clark enough, but 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.720 I've read all these things about you know, a lot 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:39.839 of questions there about if he's been the player that 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.240 you know they need him to be. They have twenty 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.520 sacks this year, but it's pretty spread across. I think 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.360 they have three or four guys that each have three sacks. Uh. 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.600 Their secondary is pretty stout. I mean, they're top ten 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.360 as far as past defense is concerned. But Shad Brylan 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.559 was one of the big signings this offseason. He works 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.120 as one of their starters, and then certainly the Honey 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:00.280 Badger going over there as well. They still are uptable. 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.040 It seems to be like, you know, to have the 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:04.800 ball moved against them, but maybe not the total sieve 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.439 that they were at times last season when Patrick Mahomes 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:09.920 was kind of just asked to win shootout after shootout. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:13.080 But I think the big opportunity for Green Bay in 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.040 this game is going to be against running against that 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.080 front for Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams. I want to say 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:19.160 I don't have in front of me. I want to 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:22.199 say they're twenty five against the run this season. Yeah, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.480 they're in there in the bottom quarter of the league 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.240 in run defense. I believe the ranking is even lower 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.319 when you look at just the yards per rush. I 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.719 believe it's actually five point oh that they're allowing on 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:37.800 the ground, which which is a problem. And certainly for 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.040 whatever injuries the Packers are dealing with offensively, and we 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.800 don't know what the status will be for Davante Adams 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.520 and whatnot this week, But for the Packers, if you 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.280 go into this game with Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.120 both healthy and ready to go, and facing a defense 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.160 is giving up five yards per carry on the ground 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.559 for the season, you really want to get these running 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.920 backs rolling. Yeah, the Kansas City Chiefs at this point 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.480 played seven games. In five of them they've been out rushed. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.440 That was including the yard game that carry On Johnson 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:07.760 had that you and I were talking about a couple 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.800 of weeks ago. Marlon Mack and Hunter thirty two yards 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.839 three weeks ago, and then Carlos Hyde the the early 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:18.199 season addition to Houston Hunter sixteen yards. So yeah, I 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.000 think this is gonna be the biggest key for them. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:21.840 As much as you know Aaron Rodgers is still gonna 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:23.439 be important, You're you're gonna need to be able to 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:26.680 move the ball downfield and have that threat. This definitely 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.439 looks to me like a game that's tailored for Aaron Jones, 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.120 Jamal Williams, Danny Vitalley to go to work up front. Yeah, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.559 and when you're talking about going on the road here, 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.320 the Packers are two and oh on the road. But 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.400 this starts a stretch of four out of five games 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.320 on the road here for Green Bay. With the bye 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:46.160 week mixed in, it's gonna be a pretty charged atmosphere. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.600 Patrick Mahomes or no Patrick Mahomes, this is gonna be 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.360 Sunday night, prime time under the lights at Arrowhead. This 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:53.840 is a Chiefs team that was on the verge of 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.280 the Super Bowl last year. They're five and two this year. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.240 They still have a lot of high hopes. They feel 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.400 like they can still be a challenger when it's all 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.240 said and done for the New England Patriots to try 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.760 to get back to the Super Bowl. I think it's 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.040 going to be quite the atmosphere even if Mahomes isn't 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.120 on the field on Sunday. Yeah, Brian Balaga was saying 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.400 on Monday. I mean they're fully prepared already for a 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.199 silent count in to deal with a lot of noise pollution. 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.960 It's funny because we've covered so many preseason games there, 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.520 At least from my perspective, I kind of forget that 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:25.000 I've never covered a regular season game there before. I've 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.520 covered I've covered two there, one in two thousand, two 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.600 thousand seven and then uh um and then again in 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:32.720 two thousand eleven. There was a switch up in the 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.040 scheduling formula, so the Packers actually went to Kansas City 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:40.280 twice um in a span of five years there. And yeah, 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.720 I mean, now both of those were just your garden 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.480 variety afternoon games, So I have I haven't covered a 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.760 regular season game in prime time there, but certainly it's 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.480 it's a stadium that's that's known for its noise, known 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.840 for its atmosphere, and I think, you know, quite frankly, 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.600 this is a this is a fan base that's going 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.520 to come out with uh all the support that they 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.360 can muster for their backup quarterback to say, Okay, here 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.840 come the Packers and Aaron Rodgers, let's show them what 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:08.360 we got. Well, and you know, I said what I 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.560 said about the defense and the fact it's been more 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.560 balanced everything, but then you look at last week. I mean, 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:14.600 they did have nine sacks last week, so a lot 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.760 of their sacks. A lot of their pressures came in 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.960 that game against Denver. Now that was on the road. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:20.960 If they if you go out and you allow them 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.520 to have that kind of momentum there early, the defense 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.760 can dictate this game, and that can get a crowd 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:30.200 charged up. I just think that those first five six 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.240 minutes of this thing are going to be so crucial 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.760 to you know, not only setting a tempo, setting a tone, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.040 potentially taking the crowd out of it a little bit, 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.880 but also just being able to to get your momentum 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.120 here on the road. The Packers kind of in a way, 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:44.600 he sort of have to learn how to play on 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.240 the road here. Um, Dallas was a lot of fun. 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.040 They played well, They had a lot of Packer fans there. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.760 There was some pretty good go Pack go chance, I 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.720 want to say, in both of these games so far, Mike, 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.600 including Chicago, there was a go Pack go chant that 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.880 broke out its soldier field to I think this is 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:05.200 gonna be a very Kansas City pro crowd. So um, 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.160 but it's a good But you need these type of 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:09.960 matchups because a week from now they're gonna have a 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.640 pseudo home game in l A. They just want one 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.680 out in l A. Is going to be a whole 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.680 different type of game, And to be honest with you, 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.640 that's kind of on the Chargers because of the way 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.680 the ticket pricing goes that they don't have a lot 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.400 of fans to drop from in that market. So who 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:23.840 are you gonna be getting. You're gonna be getting a 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.040 lot of Packer fans, and then you're back home against 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.400 Carolina and then you're into the bye week. So Patrick Mahomes, No, 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.400 Patrick Mahomes, I feel like there's a lot that they 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.120 can learn from in this matchup and just being able 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.760 to dictate tempo early on and understanding, okay, we get 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.800 into our silent count, you hit it. You know, they've 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.960 been so good at scripting those first fifteen you know 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:43.920 whatever you want to call them. Now that the first 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.280 series that I think that's gonna be put to the 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:47.920 test in this matchup. And making sure you can get 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.080 these guys playing as one. Yeah, well, as with most 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.440 road games, but I think particularly in a stadium like Arrowhead, 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:58.280 you're gonna have to deal with surges from the home team. 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.160 They're gonna have their times where they generate momentum where 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:04.520 they get things going, and you know, how this is Wes. 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.080 You have to find a way you don't. You need 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:09.919 to weather those storms when you're on the road, and 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.280 you need to try to limit the damage as much 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:15.480 as possible. If they have some big, huge surge, but 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.040 if that surge is ten points as opposed to fourteen 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.399 or seventeen points or something like that, that can be 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.159 the difference in the game. It's about weathering that storm, 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.000 limiting the damage. And mahomes or no mahomes, the Chiefs 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:31.040 are gonna have. They're going to have their moments in 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:32.879 this game where the crowd is really going to get 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:34.760 into it. They're going to generate the momentum and the 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.639 and the Packers are going to have to respond. And 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.879 that's something Packers certainly did it well both at Chicago 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.560 and at Dallas. But for this to only be your 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.880 third road game this far into the season, I think 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.359 that's an interesting dynamic. Yeah, it's tough to say because 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.600 you know, the day in which we're taping this on Wednesday, 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.399 we first have afternoon practice, so we don't know exactly 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.040 how this is going to shuffle out with Davante Adams. Yeah, 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:58.919 we're wanting to see what's going on with some of 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:00.919 these guys for the Packers who are injured. And the 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:02.560 other thing that makes a little bit more confusing is 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:04.080 you and I sit in these seats as you look 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.640 at the offense that Kansas City has their top ten 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.840 and basically every category there third in the least amount 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.440 of sacks allout. I mean, they are so they play 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:15.080 so well around Mahomes that when you add a new 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.960 dynamic to that, it kind of raises some questions there. 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:19.800 So what of the point I'm trying to make, What 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:21.200 does that lead you to believe? It leads you to 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.239 believe in protecting the football and field position. It just 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:26.360 so happens. You look at the special teams of Kansas City, 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.560 Dustin Cole clip back there. This is gonna be a 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:30.960 really good battle for J. K. Scott too, and being 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.080 able to maintain that and keep it going in your 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.159 direction because Kansas City, we've known this. I mean, you 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.320