Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford. Heath is the one and only
Speaker 1: West Hot Quits. We're coming to you here from our
Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field and West. The Packers opponent this
Speaker 1: Sunday Sunday night football prime time, in fact, the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. The Packers will be traveling to Arrowhead Stadium,
Speaker 1: and as recently as a week ago, this look at
Speaker 1: the opponent seemingly would have been a lot of chatter
Speaker 1: about the reigning league m v P and Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: but that won't be the case here now. Nothing is
Speaker 1: official in terms of mahomes availability for Sunday Nights game,
Speaker 1: but all signs are pointing to the fact that he
Speaker 1: will not be able to play due to his knee
Speaker 1: injury from last Thursday night against the Broncos, and the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs are turning their offense over to the
Speaker 1: veteran backup Matt Moore. Yes, so, a couple of things
Speaker 1: that across my mind when I first saw this first
Speaker 1: and foremost to touch on what you were mentioning dislocated
Speaker 1: kneecap for Patrick Mahomes. The reports coming out of there,
Speaker 1: and I think even their team doctor who addressed the
Speaker 1: media about this was saying, you know, no ligament damage,
Speaker 1: it's just that kneecap. They have to be smart about it.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to wear a sleep when he
Speaker 1: comes back. The optics of it, though, considering he's at
Speaker 1: this point, now what nine days out from the injury,
Speaker 1: you're guessing that you're probably not going to want to
Speaker 1: see him out there in potentially risk an aggravation of
Speaker 1: some kind. I wouldn't think. So that's where this biggest
Speaker 1: conversation is coming from, especially considering, you know, the grand
Speaker 1: scheme of things here. They want to be able to
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. They want him to leave them
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. You've got to be smart. Now. Again,
Speaker 1: we'll see what the week takes as far as its course.
Speaker 1: Matt More was a really interesting case study, though, because
Speaker 1: we've seen this a couple of times the last few years,
Speaker 1: Mike not very often though, where a guy who was
Speaker 1: completely out of the NFL for an entire season is
Speaker 1: then suddenly thrust into a starting situation. The Packers went
Speaker 1: through it with Seneca Wallace in two thousand thirteen. Josh
Speaker 1: McCown is a guy that was out of football, returned
Speaker 1: to the game and certainly is you know, made a
Speaker 1: nice career for himself that second sort of life to
Speaker 1: his NFL career. Matt Moore is a guy personally I've
Speaker 1: always been very high on. I was I've always respected
Speaker 1: him as a backup quarterback. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: that came from watching Hard Knocks the year that Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill was drafted, and he was kind of the transitionary
Speaker 1: quarterback and played pretty well for Joe Philbin early on.
Speaker 1: And then you know, he was with the Carolina Panthers
Speaker 1: for a while and kind of ushered in the Cam
Speaker 1: Newton era. But the fact of the matter is is
Speaker 1: he did not play in the NFL last year, and
Speaker 1: he's thirty five years old. He's a guy who knows
Speaker 1: how to win. He's played a lot of football at
Speaker 1: the very highest of levels. But it's gonna be natural
Speaker 1: question marks there, because when a guy steps away from
Speaker 1: the game and then comes back to it and then
Speaker 1: here we are a month and a half in of
Speaker 1: the season and now you're playing naturally, there's just gonna
Speaker 1: be some wonder of, Okay, what does he still have left. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think not to oversimplify things too much, but we
Speaker 1: saw last year with Patrick Mahomes winning the league m
Speaker 1: v P. There's so much offense that he can create
Speaker 1: on his own that you know, the play breaks down,
Speaker 1: whatever it takes. Patrick Mahomes would find a way to
Speaker 1: make a play. Now, Matt Moore is not going to
Speaker 1: bring that element to the Kansas City Chiefs offense. But
Speaker 1: this Kansas City Chiefs offense does have playmakers, and this
Speaker 1: game for Kansas City will be about how does Matt
Speaker 1: Moore get the ball into the hands of these playmakers.
Speaker 1: And the two of course that jump out to me
Speaker 1: that are at the top of my list are tight
Speaker 1: end Travis Kelsey, who is the leading receiver by quite
Speaker 1: a significant margin for this Chief's offense, and then Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 1: who is back from injury and is the is the
Speaker 1: speeds stir and the really dangerous explosive guy wants the
Speaker 1: balls in his hands. Yeah, and if you could look
Speaker 1: at last week's game, now, certainly a lot of it
Speaker 1: was garbage minutes, but Matt Moore did fine. I mean
Speaker 1: ten of nineteen seventeen yards and a touchdown. He navigated
Speaker 1: the offense and there are a lot of weapons he's
Speaker 1: going to be able to work off of. To give
Speaker 1: people a little bit of a backstory here, the whole
Speaker 1: plan going into the season's chat Henny the former Michigan quarterback,
Speaker 1: now in his twelfth NFL season, was going to be
Speaker 1: the backup to Mahomes. He ends up suffering a season
Speaker 1: ending injury. So then here comes Matt More off the
Speaker 1: street and suddenly he's thrown into this predicament. But what
Speaker 1: I like about his backstory and being able to have
Speaker 1: the playmaking and you know experience that he's had in
Speaker 1: the past is you know, you know what you have
Speaker 1: in Tyreek Hill. You know what you have in Shady McCoy,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, one of the best, if not the best
Speaker 1: tight end in the NFL right now. That gives you outlets.
Speaker 1: And I thought one thing you saw in early on
Speaker 1: here is that with Andy Reid in the way that
Speaker 1: this offense is structured, it's very quarterback friendly for a
Speaker 1: guy to potentially be thrown in this situation and get
Speaker 1: you a winner too until you can get Patrick Mahomes back.
Speaker 1: The only difference is exactly what you outlined. You look
Speaker 1: at what the Baltimore Ravens are doing right now. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson's their quarterback. R G three is their backup. They
Speaker 1: have a guy that plays a similar way to what
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson does. Yes, Kansas City is not like that.
Speaker 1: The offense is going to change when you don't have
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and you're making a shift to an older,
Speaker 1: more pocket based quarterback, and that's gonna be one of
Speaker 1: the biggest hurdles I think that they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: overcome here. If Matt Moore is the guy on Sunday Night, well,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, he's done a heck of a lot for
Speaker 1: the for this Kansas City Chiefs offense. And my question
Speaker 1: do you here is exactly how do you envision or
Speaker 1: do you have any prediction here as to how the
Speaker 1: Packers are going to match up with him? Because we've
Speaker 1: seen the ups and downs with this Packers defense, specifically
Speaker 1: against tight ends against Philadelphia. Zach Ertz was a chain mover.
Speaker 1: He was really really key part of what Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: was doing in that Thursday night game at lambeau Field.
Speaker 1: Jason Witten of the Cowboys, t J Hockenson and the
Speaker 1: Lions didn't do a whole lot against the Packers there
Speaker 1: there there wasn't a major impact from those guys. Then
Speaker 1: the tight ends led by Darren Waller of the Oakland Raiders,
Speaker 1: they were the big stars, along with obviously running back
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs of the Oakland Raiders offense and having a
Speaker 1: big day at Lambeu Field. So how do you envision
Speaker 1: Mike Patton going about this matchup here with Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: get to Matt Moore as quickly as possible? May not, honestly,
Speaker 1: and that's not to be disrespectful the defensive backs. Certainly,
Speaker 1: the Packers have a lot of guys that they can
Speaker 1: match up there, but Travis Kelsey is a nightmare for
Speaker 1: any secondary in the NFL. His size, his speed, his athleticism,
Speaker 1: his catch radius. How the offense basically runs through him. Now,
Speaker 1: they definitely have big play weapons. You mentioned Hill. Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins has found some new life in Kansas City. Yeah, Watkins.
Speaker 1: Watkins is off to McCloy for how many years we've
Speaker 1: seen can catch the ball in the backfield. But let's
Speaker 1: be honest, Mike, where this all starts as Kelsey. So
Speaker 1: I think the quicker that you get on more, the
Speaker 1: faster that you speed up his internal clock, the more
Speaker 1: important it's going to be, because, yeah, you can do
Speaker 1: a lot of different things. It can be Orn Burkes,
Speaker 1: it can be Adrian Amos. Let's see what the week
Speaker 1: holds here for Darnell Savage through his ankle injury, if
Speaker 1: he could be back in the cards. But you have
Speaker 1: to script your coverage in your plans. You have to
Speaker 1: tailor those two defending Travis Kelsey, so for Zadarius and
Speaker 1: Preston Smith the defensive front. The less time you give
Speaker 1: more to find those weapons, the better it's going to
Speaker 1: be for this defense. Yeah, and when I look at
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, and this is taking nothing away from what
Speaker 1: he might be able to do as far as running
Speaker 1: the deep ball and getting over the top. But with
Speaker 1: Matt Moore as the quarterback and Andy Reid kind of
Speaker 1: designing drawing some things up, I just see Andy Reid
Speaker 1: trying to find a way, whether it's just quick throws
Speaker 1: to the sideline, short throws, just getting the ball into
Speaker 1: Tyree hills hands and letting him try to make something happen,
Speaker 1: which I think then just puts a huge premium on
Speaker 1: the tackling of the Packers defense because Tyree Hill, if
Speaker 1: he makes big plays in this game. I think for
Speaker 1: the most part, it's going to be if he's breaking
Speaker 1: tackles and getting yards after the catch. If the Packers
Speaker 1: tackle solidly against a very slippery, fast guy and a
Speaker 1: very dangerous guy, I think they can. They can do
Speaker 1: what they need to against Tyreek Hill, but they have
Speaker 1: to tackle the players. You've seen players like Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: in this league before. It's not like he's just this
Speaker 1: new phenomenon, but what he does and with his skill set,
Speaker 1: his size, and his speed, I've always referred to them
Speaker 1: as just second level destroyers, they nests. Now he certainly
Speaker 1: has big play potential. We've seen it. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's I couldn't even tell you how many forty plus
Speaker 1: yard catches he has in this league. Put a lot
Speaker 1: of them are off of creating opportunities, making the first
Speaker 1: tackler miss and being able to really, you know, weave
Speaker 1: his way down field. And that's why the second level
Speaker 1: he really challenges you there, because he challenges your mental mindset,
Speaker 1: your gap, integrity, and what you're looking forward to achieve.
Speaker 1: You know, inside those those sticks and he can break them, man,
Speaker 1: and they can use them in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 1: I agree with you when when I've always said this,
Speaker 1: You've heard me talk about this numerous times. When you
Speaker 1: have a backup quarterback, what do you need to do?
Speaker 1: You need to introduce Chaos and Tyreek Hill and the
Speaker 1: way he plays that can be definitely a player who
Speaker 1: does that because he can go more off script and
Speaker 1: allow more to uh, you know, potentially work underneath and
Speaker 1: still have some explosive play possibilities. Yeah, alright, Well, before
Speaker 1: moving on to the defensive side of the ball for
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Speaker 1: believe in better and we will get to the defense.
Speaker 1: And I'm excited to talk about the defense. But I
Speaker 1: also want to say, you're looking at the number one
Speaker 1: pass offense in the NFL. You're also looking at the
Speaker 1: number twenty eight run offense in the NFL. You talk
Speaker 1: about Kelsey and all these outside weapons, this is going
Speaker 1: to start for the packers in the trenches and stopping
Speaker 1: McCoy because they've started to lean more towards him. The
Speaker 1: Damien Williams experiment hasn't really worked out the way it
Speaker 1: did late last season when they need to lean on him.
Speaker 1: If you stop McCoy and you can stop that running game,
Speaker 1: that's what starts you get allowing you to be you
Speaker 1: can make them more one dimensional and allow you to
Speaker 1: kind of defend the rest of the field from there.
Speaker 1: That's going to be the primary objective I feel in
Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, And certainly with the Chiefs looking at
Speaker 1: the film of what the Oakland Raiders did with Josh
Speaker 1: Jacobs and with Matt Moore being the backup quarterback, they're
Speaker 1: going to try to pound the ball in the ground,
Speaker 1: excuse me, and get something generated, get something started there.
Speaker 1: The ground game is going to be a really good
Speaker 1: best friend of Matt Moore here if the Chiefs can
Speaker 1: get it going, and that's why the Packers have to
Speaker 1: stop it. Yeah. On the defensive side of the ball, now,
Speaker 1: this is a team that reached the a f C
Speaker 1: Championship Game a year ago, lost in overtime. If I
Speaker 1: recall to the New England Patriots in that a f
Speaker 1: C title game, but they overhauled their defense. They got
Speaker 1: rid of pretty much the entire defensive coaching staff. They
Speaker 1: changed some of the key guys, especially the pass rushers
Speaker 1: um on that side of the ball. Justin Houston d
Speaker 1: Ford where their bookend pass rushers coach by Mike Smith
Speaker 1: who is now the outside linebackers coach of the Smith
Speaker 1: Brothers and others here in Green Bay, Houston and Ford.
Speaker 1: They racked up a lot of sacks, takeaways, turnover opportunities
Speaker 1: for the Kansas City Chiefs. But they decided to move on.
Speaker 1: They've rebuilt this defense and quite frankly, they haven't gotten
Speaker 1: the results that they were looking for. Um, what what's
Speaker 1: your sense right now of where this Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: defense is? Well, it's got check time because I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, D four. It's quickly becoming one of the
Speaker 1: biggest playmakers in that defense for the San Francisco forty Niners.
Speaker 1: Really good defense out there in Frisco. Yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a problem here for the rest of the NFC.
Speaker 1: They made the trade to get Frank Clark, and I
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you, honestly, I haven't watched Clark enough, but
Speaker 1: I've read all these things about you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of questions there about if he's been the player that
Speaker 1: you know they need him to be. They have twenty
Speaker 1: sacks this year, but it's pretty spread across. I think
Speaker 1: they have three or four guys that each have three sacks. Uh.
Speaker 1: Their secondary is pretty stout. I mean, they're top ten
Speaker 1: as far as past defense is concerned. But Shad Brylan
Speaker 1: was one of the big signings this offseason. He works
Speaker 1: as one of their starters, and then certainly the Honey
Speaker 1: Badger going over there as well. They still are uptable.
Speaker 1: It seems to be like, you know, to have the
Speaker 1: ball moved against them, but maybe not the total sieve
Speaker 1: that they were at times last season when Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: was kind of just asked to win shootout after shootout.
Speaker 1: But I think the big opportunity for Green Bay in
Speaker 1: this game is going to be against running against that
Speaker 1: front for Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams. I want to say
Speaker 1: I don't have in front of me. I want to
Speaker 1: say they're twenty five against the run this season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're in there in the bottom quarter of the league
Speaker 1: in run defense. I believe the ranking is even lower
Speaker 1: when you look at just the yards per rush. I
Speaker 1: believe it's actually five point oh that they're allowing on
Speaker 1: the ground, which which is a problem. And certainly for
Speaker 1: whatever injuries the Packers are dealing with offensively, and we
Speaker 1: don't know what the status will be for Davante Adams
Speaker 1: and whatnot this week, But for the Packers, if you
Speaker 1: go into this game with Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams
Speaker 1: both healthy and ready to go, and facing a defense
Speaker 1: is giving up five yards per carry on the ground
Speaker 1: for the season, you really want to get these running
Speaker 1: backs rolling. Yeah, the Kansas City Chiefs at this point
Speaker 1: played seven games. In five of them they've been out rushed.
Speaker 1: That was including the yard game that carry On Johnson
Speaker 1: had that you and I were talking about a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Marlon Mack and Hunter thirty two yards
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, and then Carlos Hyde the the early
Speaker 1: season addition to Houston Hunter sixteen yards. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be the biggest key for them.
Speaker 1: As much as you know Aaron Rodgers is still gonna
Speaker 1: be important, You're you're gonna need to be able to
Speaker 1: move the ball downfield and have that threat. This definitely
Speaker 1: looks to me like a game that's tailored for Aaron Jones,
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, Danny Vitalley to go to work up front. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and when you're talking about going on the road here,
Speaker 1: the Packers are two and oh on the road. But
Speaker 1: this starts a stretch of four out of five games
Speaker 1: on the road here for Green Bay. With the bye
Speaker 1: week mixed in, it's gonna be a pretty charged atmosphere.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes or no Patrick Mahomes, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: Sunday night, prime time under the lights at Arrowhead. This
Speaker 1: is a Chiefs team that was on the verge of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year. They're five and two this year.
Speaker 1: They still have a lot of high hopes. They feel
Speaker 1: like they can still be a challenger when it's all
Speaker 1: said and done for the New England Patriots to try
Speaker 1: to get back to the Super Bowl. I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be quite the atmosphere even if Mahomes isn't
Speaker 1: on the field on Sunday. Yeah, Brian Balaga was saying
Speaker 1: on Monday. I mean they're fully prepared already for a
Speaker 1: silent count in to deal with a lot of noise pollution.
Speaker 1: It's funny because we've covered so many preseason games there,
Speaker 1: At least from my perspective, I kind of forget that
Speaker 1: I've never covered a regular season game there before. I've
Speaker 1: covered I've covered two there, one in two thousand, two
Speaker 1: thousand seven and then uh um and then again in
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. There was a switch up in the
Speaker 1: scheduling formula, so the Packers actually went to Kansas City
Speaker 1: twice um in a span of five years there. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, now both of those were just your garden
Speaker 1: variety afternoon games, So I have I haven't covered a
Speaker 1: regular season game in prime time there, but certainly it's
Speaker 1: it's a stadium that's that's known for its noise, known
Speaker 1: for its atmosphere, and I think, you know, quite frankly,
Speaker 1: this is a this is a fan base that's going
Speaker 1: to come out with uh all the support that they
Speaker 1: can muster for their backup quarterback to say, Okay, here
Speaker 1: come the Packers and Aaron Rodgers, let's show them what
Speaker 1: we got. Well, and you know, I said what I
Speaker 1: said about the defense and the fact it's been more
Speaker 1: balanced everything, but then you look at last week. I mean,
Speaker 1: they did have nine sacks last week, so a lot
Speaker 1: of their sacks. A lot of their pressures came in
Speaker 1: that game against Denver. Now that was on the road.
Speaker 1: If they if you go out and you allow them
Speaker 1: to have that kind of momentum there early, the defense
Speaker 1: can dictate this game, and that can get a crowd
Speaker 1: charged up. I just think that those first five six
Speaker 1: minutes of this thing are going to be so crucial
Speaker 1: to you know, not only setting a tempo, setting a tone,
Speaker 1: potentially taking the crowd out of it a little bit,
Speaker 1: but also just being able to to get your momentum
Speaker 1: here on the road. The Packers kind of in a way,
Speaker 1: he sort of have to learn how to play on
Speaker 1: the road here. Um, Dallas was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: They played well, They had a lot of Packer fans there.
Speaker 1: There was some pretty good go Pack go chance, I
Speaker 1: want to say, in both of these games so far, Mike,
Speaker 1: including Chicago, there was a go Pack go chant that
Speaker 1: broke out its soldier field to I think this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a very Kansas City pro crowd. So um,
Speaker 1: but it's a good But you need these type of
Speaker 1: matchups because a week from now they're gonna have a
Speaker 1: pseudo home game in l A. They just want one
Speaker 1: out in l A. Is going to be a whole
Speaker 1: different type of game, And to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: that's kind of on the Chargers because of the way
Speaker 1: the ticket pricing goes that they don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of fans to drop from in that market. So who
Speaker 1: are you gonna be getting. You're gonna be getting a
Speaker 1: lot of Packer fans, and then you're back home against
Speaker 1: Carolina and then you're into the bye week. So Patrick Mahomes, No,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, I feel like there's a lot that they
Speaker 1: can learn from in this matchup and just being able
Speaker 1: to dictate tempo early on and understanding, okay, we get
Speaker 1: into our silent count, you hit it. You know, they've
Speaker 1: been so good at scripting those first fifteen you know
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them. Now that the first
Speaker 1: series that I think that's gonna be put to the
Speaker 1: test in this matchup. And making sure you can get
Speaker 1: these guys playing as one. Yeah, well, as with most
Speaker 1: road games, but I think particularly in a stadium like Arrowhead,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with surges from the home team.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have their times where they generate momentum where
Speaker 1: they get things going, and you know, how this is Wes.
Speaker 1: You have to find a way you don't. You need
Speaker 1: to weather those storms when you're on the road, and
Speaker 1: you need to try to limit the damage as much
Speaker 1: as possible. If they have some big, huge surge, but
Speaker 1: if that surge is ten points as opposed to fourteen
Speaker 1: or seventeen points or something like that, that can be
Speaker 1: the difference in the game. It's about weathering that storm,
Speaker 1: limiting the damage. And mahomes or no mahomes, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are gonna have. They're going to have their moments in
Speaker 1: this game where the crowd is really going to get
Speaker 1: into it. They're going to generate the momentum and the
Speaker 1: and the Packers are going to have to respond. And
Speaker 1: that's something Packers certainly did it well both at Chicago
Speaker 1: and at Dallas. But for this to only be your
Speaker 1: third road game this far into the season, I think
Speaker 1: that's an interesting dynamic. Yeah, it's tough to say because
Speaker 1: you know, the day in which we're taping this on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: we first have afternoon practice, so we don't know exactly
Speaker 1: how this is going to shuffle out with Davante Adams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're wanting to see what's going on with some of
Speaker 1: these guys for the Packers who are injured. And the
Speaker 1: other thing that makes a little bit more confusing is
Speaker 1: you and I sit in these seats as you look
Speaker 1: at the offense that Kansas City has their top ten
Speaker 1: and basically every category there third in the least amount
Speaker 1: of sacks allout. I mean, they are so they play
Speaker 1: so well around Mahomes that when you add a new
Speaker 1: dynamic to that, it kind of raises some questions there.
Speaker 1: So what of the point I'm trying to make, What
Speaker 1: does that lead you to believe? It leads you to
Speaker 1: believe in protecting the football and field position. It just
Speaker 1: so happens. You look at the special teams of Kansas City,
Speaker 1: Dustin Cole clip back there. This is gonna be a
Speaker 1: really good battle for J. K. Scott too, and being
Speaker 1: able to maintain that and keep it going in your
Speaker 1: direction because Kansas City, we've known this. I mean, you
Speaker 1: see the way that they play special teams. That's one
Speaker 1: of the prototypes for how special teams are played in
Speaker 1: this league. So as much as you want to talk,
Speaker 1: we can talk about more. You can talk about their
Speaker 1: defense and that I just think, again, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be one of those matchups. That comes back to takeaways,
Speaker 1: and it comes back to Okay, who's winning time of
Speaker 1: possession and where are these guys starting from on each play.
Speaker 1: Packers need a really strong performance other special teams I
Speaker 1: think to prevail on Sunday, and I think we'll We'll
Speaker 1: get into a little bit more of that discussion on
Speaker 1: our shows as the week continues, but for now, we're
Speaker 1: going to call it a wrap on this edition of
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