1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker, who has been all other fields. 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual roll 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: player for Save Steve a blimp. We're not even in 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: the strato fere of normalcy. Hey, We're never normal. We're 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: always working it though. Here on One Bills Live, it's 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: a Tuesday. We're still slicing and dice in the draft 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: up a little bit. We'll get into that in due course. 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: So I'm watching Steve Tasker consume his lunch at his desk, 9 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: and he rolls out from his tupperware. One of my 10 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: favorite indications that summer is upon us, the good old 11 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: mac salad. If that is not a summer indicator on 12 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: the food spectrum, I don't know what is. Yeah, And 13 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: I came back you said that to me. You know what. 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: I came back with Coleslaw. Yeah, Max salad is. Max 15 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: salad is probably my favorite summer salad accompaniment. That's not, 16 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, like a green salad. You know what I mean? 17 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: You have those years love Max salad. Man, I love it. 18 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I can't get enough of it. 19 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm always going back for seconds. And you brought up 20 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: cole Slaw, which I ask while it is a cold 21 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: side dish similar to macaroni salad. Is it a salad? 22 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: I mean it's slaw. There are vegetables in it. It's 23 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: all vegetables and dressing. So yeah, it's got to be 24 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: a salad. But the conversation too that there there's a 25 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: wide variety of Coal Slaw. Some Cole Slaw I cannot, 26 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: I cannot put a fork into. Yeah, some people put 27 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: red cabbage in. Yeah, there's a lot of wide there's 28 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: a wide ranging some people disparity and what cole slaw 29 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: is good, and there's some Cole Slaw that's just there's 30 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: and there's a to me, there's a very wet Cole 31 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: Slaw and then there's a very dry cow right, and 32 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: I'm somewhere in between. Yeah, And I don't like it's 33 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: swimming and I don't like it dry. We said this 34 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: too about the about the macaroni salad. I think there's 35 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: more macaroni salad I love than there is Cole Slaw. Yeah, 36 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: as you said, there is a smaller band there's a 37 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: smaller bandwidth of Cole slaw. Ma of Max salad from 38 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: end to end, I mean the good Max salad and 39 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: the bad Max salad. There's they're close together, it's a 40 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: shorter distance Cole slaw. The spectrum is really big. Yeah, 41 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: I think people have tried to jump the shark with 42 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: Cole slaw. Like it's almost like they trying many time 43 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: you go to a barbecue place, they got they got 44 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: their brand and their own kind of great. So you know, 45 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: some of it's really really good and then other of 46 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: it is like, you know, I'm just gonna throw that 47 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: out without Yeah, um, Max salad is their tuna in 48 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: your Max salad? Both? Yeah, yes, that's part of the base. Yeah, 49 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: my mom never made it with tuna, but my mother 50 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: in law does, and it's very good. I had never 51 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: experienced that prior to getting married, so it's it just 52 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: adds it puts a new twist on it if you've 53 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: never experienced it before. All Right, So I grow up, 54 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: and you know, we're church people, right, so every so 55 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: often they got they got a you know pop Dinah 56 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: were and the whole congregations bringing in their version of 57 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: whatever whatever. So I grew up, you know, great grazing, 58 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: all these recipes of every day like baked bean recipes, 59 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: cold slaw recipes, macaroni salad, recipes, jello recipes, you know, 60 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: casserole recipes one after the other. Kill the castle rolls, tuna, 61 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: macaroni and macaroni salads, you know, all that stuff. So 62 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: I am I have a vast experience, range of experience 63 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: with different varieties of said of of said dishes. Um. 64 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's um. I grew up in the pot 65 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: luck world. The uh. I was trying to think of 66 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: the other cold salads that are out there. You obviously 67 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: have potato salad. What do you do that can get 68 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: very heavy? Yeah, potato salad is another one, and it's 69 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: like a heavy side. Yeah, like that'll snap a weak 70 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: paper plate, you know at a barbecue. Yeah, you got 71 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: to hold that with your hand on the hand side 72 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: of the paper plate, your fingers out underneath the potatoes. 73 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: How to keep it up right? Yeah, but you're right. 74 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: Potato salad is another one of those big bandwidth There's 75 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: some that's really good and the others, like I tend 76 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: to I tend to lean toward the mustard the end 77 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: of the potatoes. Yeah, me too. And I like the 78 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: vinegar thing. The vicar vinegar snap in there is really 79 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: good too, So I like, I'm a big fan of that. 80 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm a I'm a mustard fan. I eat 81 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: mustard on my lunch all the time. Yeah, in here, 82 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: so I would see you're a aren't you a Deli 83 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: mustard guy? Like you're yellow? No? No, no, you're spicy 84 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: brown right? No, no, no, I'm oh it's what's the difference. See, 85 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm just right out of the yellow bat bottle. Yeah, 86 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: you're yellow mustard, right, which is known more commonly as 87 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: Delhi mustard. That's me, um, that's I am a spicy 88 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: brown must See it's a horse radish thing. And well, 89 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: uh is horse radish and some of mustards. Yeah, I 90 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: never knew that. I guess I never looked at the end. 91 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a big love spicy I'm a big bright 92 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: yellow guy, yellow number eleven. I will use I will 93 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: use yellow mustard, but spicy brown man on a hot pretzel. See, 94 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a pretzel good I'm not a pretzel guy 95 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: at all. Well, yeah, well that's more about their where 96 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: you're from. I think, Yeah, they see, especially the big 97 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: hot ones. You know. Yeah, I'll get choke one down. 98 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm put some spicy mustard on, and you 99 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: might think different. No, I've done all that. Come on, 100 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: I told you, I'm a I've tried it all. I'm old. 101 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I've I've done gone down that rat and 102 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: the ones where you go to the place to wa hey, 103 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: you gotta try there. Yeah, so I'm you know you'll 104 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: do it, and yeah there's something to be said for 105 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: it if you got the right mustard and all that stuff. Okay, 106 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: but that's not my go toube and it never will be. 107 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: But I can't wait for the first big bowl of 108 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: Max salad at the first barbecue of summer. Yeah, because 109 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: you know that's the thing you can go back for 110 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: that you can't. I don't go back. I'll never go 111 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: back for coleslaw, and I'll never go down for probably 112 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: on rare occasion, if it's really good, I might try 113 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: the potato salad again. But Max salad is like, man, 114 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: I can you know, give me a big spoon, give 115 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: me a shovel. Yeah, and I'm with you. I'll come 116 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: up for air when I'm done. Yeah, really really really good. 117 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: There's any is like the time. We're getting right into 118 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: the window of the time of year where you could 119 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: conceivably if you have a big enough family and my 120 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: wife's got a big family. You got enough people cooking 121 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: out and having you over or birthdays or whatever. You 122 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: could work in about three weekends out of four every 123 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: month in the summer with max Salad on the venue, 124 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: which is here's the thing, you know what it's like. 125 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: Our listeners know this, and particularly coming out of the pandemic. 126 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: How many events have you put off? Not done, gonna 127 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: do it next year, the kind of thing. And then 128 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: this summer, right, my word, this summer, every weekend you're 129 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna be necked deep in stuff you kind 130 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: of feel like you gotta do. Yeah, because some stuff 131 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: you can blow off in years past, not this year. 132 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: There's important stuff going on every weekend. Because even last year, 133 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, you're outside, it was safer, whatever, there were 134 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: still people that are like, well, we don't want to 135 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: have you know, community serve, everybody touching the spoon, all 136 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: of that stuff. So you're getting individually served portions and 137 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: stuff and it's just not the same. It's all out 138 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: the window now. So that's it's close to normal, I think. 139 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: And you know this too. Community events, festivals, you know, 140 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: taste of Buffalo Gap, the app all that stuff, the village, 141 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: the village get together, all of that. They're all coming 142 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: back this year and everybody wants to go because they're fine. 143 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: You know, it's been a while, So it's gonna be 144 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: one of those. I think it's gonna be one of 145 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: those summers where, yeah, you can, you can live on 146 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: buffet food every weekend. Could be dangerous. Um NFL News 147 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: and Notes. Arizona wide receiver Steve DeAndre Hopkins suspended six 148 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: games by the NFL this upcoming season for violating the 149 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: league's substance abuse policy. Hopkins and his team do not 150 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: know how this could have happened. Now, while you might 151 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: scoff at that and say, come on, what are you 152 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: talking about, what's interesting about this is apparently Hopkins tested 153 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: negative in October, positive in November, and then negative again 154 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: in December. And they feel there's no way that you 155 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: could do that. Well, the Hopkins camp claim, I get it. 156 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want, but you're responsible for 157 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: what's in your stuff. Yeah, and I'll say this too, 158 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: and and I'm I mean, I cut my teeth and 159 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: the first half of my career is in the steroid era, 160 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: So what the general and just for people out there, listening. 161 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: The general attitude among players, at least when I was playing, 162 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: and probably still is, is whatever is allowed that I 163 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: think is gonna help me, I'm gonna try. So these 164 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: guys will have a menu of supplements of sports, drinks, 165 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: of pills of whatever, whatever, whatever you name it, injections, 166 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: whatever they think is going to help them that is 167 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: legal under the NFL guidelines. They're gonna give it a shot. 168 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna t right now. And we all know there 169 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: are supplement companies out there that have a wide variety 170 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: of products they offer, some of which are not allowed 171 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: by the NFL on the list, and there's a there 172 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: is a oh my gosh, a huge list of what 173 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: is not allowed, as you can imagine. So there are 174 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: companies that offer a ton of stuff that is on 175 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: that list that is not allowable for NFL players. But 176 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: they also have a huge variety of stuff that is 177 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: the problem is some of these and this is the 178 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: real truth, and I'm not trying to make excuse it, 179 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: because it's not really Probably what happens to all these guys. 180 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: Some of the companies aren't as reliable about making their 181 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: batches of because they're all over the counter ingredient. It's 182 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: all over the counter, so you know, you can get 183 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: contaminated batches of bottles of stuff from the same company. 184 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: One is one is not that kind of thing. Now, 185 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: that does happen and can happen, and has happened. But 186 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: the simple fact the matter is, you got to know 187 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: that these guys, all of these guys, most of them 188 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: all take something to help him keep weight on, to 189 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: help him take weight off, to make give him more energy, 190 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: to give him a little bit whatever, help him recover 191 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: quick hurt all the ads. And if a player's gonna, 192 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: you know, is in a competition, he'll try a lot 193 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: of stuff. Not all of it's legal. Not all of 194 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: it's legal. And unless you're you've got the list in 195 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: front of you and can read these ingredients that have 196 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: fifteen letters in him, you got you're responsible for it. 197 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: And that's what happens to these guys. Yeah, Hopkins did 198 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: release a statement he said, in my ten year NFL career, 199 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: I have never tested positive for using performance and answering drugs. 200 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: To learn that my November test came back with trace 201 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: elements of a band substance, I was confused and shocked. 202 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: I am very mindful of what I put in my body. 203 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Have always taken a holistic approach, so I am working 204 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: with my team to investigate how this could have happened. 205 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: But even as careful as I have been, clearly I 206 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: wasn't careful enough for that. I apologize to Cardinals fans, 207 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: my teammates in the entire organization. Never want to let 208 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: my team down. I fully intend to get to the 209 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: bottom of this. As soon as I have more information, 210 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: I will share it so it doesn't see I mean, 211 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: I suppose at some point he could appeal. There is 212 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: no indication in that statement that he intends to. I 213 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: guess he wants to probably gather more information before deciding 214 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: whether an appeal is worth it. Right, you're not going 215 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: to get out get Yeah, you're not going to get 216 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: away with it now. I'm not going to get out 217 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: of the out of the suspension now. There was a 218 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: funny offshoot to this suspension. Someone tweeted in regards to 219 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: the Hopkins suspension. The following This is from Ian Hartet's 220 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: and he says he tweeted. Per sources, DeAndre Hopkins tested 221 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: positive for three separate types of annabolic steroids and a 222 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: low grade beaver tranquilizer. Now, some people took this as 223 00:12:53,280 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: a legitimate report, so the comments were pretty hilarious. I 224 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: will read you a few of those once I can 225 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: find him, but I mean for those that don't know, 226 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: and clearly a lot of these people didn't know. This 227 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: is a line from the movie Dodgeball, where the average 228 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: Joe's team is in the regionals to go to the 229 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: national tournament for dodgeball. So Vince Vaughan and his crew 230 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: had to play this Girl Scout Troop and the Girls 231 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: Scout Troop won the match. But as they're about to 232 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: announce the Girl Scout Troop has won, somebody comes up 233 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: with a piece of information and hands it to the 234 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: guy making the announcement, and he said, I'm the Girl 235 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: Scout Troop is not going to advance because it has 236 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: been discovered that one of their players had a tainted 237 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: urine sample that had three types of anabolic steroids and 238 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: a low grade beaver tranquilizers. So the guy takes the 239 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: line from the movie and tweets it, tweets it and 240 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: people think he's serious about the report. So here are 241 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: a few of the comments that follow, and you can 242 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: tell pretty quickly who knew and who did not know 243 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: it was from the movie Dodgeball. So one guy he 244 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: just goes with damn, damn damn beaver emoji, beaver emoji, 245 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: beaver emoji. Another guy has a gift of a beaver 246 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: laying waste to a sweet potato. Another guy tweets the 247 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: scene from Dodgeball, clearly knowing that it's from the movie. 248 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: Another guy says, my youth football team has been taking 249 00:14:54,440 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: beaver tranquilizers for years and they're doing just fine. And 250 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: then this guy tweets imagine not being able to afford 251 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: a high grade beaver tranquilizer. So I mean, it's pretty 252 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: it's pretty funny. I just gotta kick out of it now. 253 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: I've also been on the other end of that when 254 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: I did not know the movie reference or something, and 255 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, is that real? Yeah, and you hesitate for 256 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: a second sometimes, and I think Ross Tucker got fooled, 257 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: or maybe he actually said this is the best tainted 258 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: supplement ever. Meanwhile, the guy that tweeted it yesterday after 259 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: where it went running to he said, I think this 260 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: just might be my masterpieces on Twitter. Oh my gosh, 261 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: it's yes, Yeah, this is why Steve says all the time, 262 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: the internet is undefeated. It's undefeated and on Also, you 263 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: just when you tweet, here's what you do. If you're 264 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: gonna tweet anything, Type it up, look at it, rewead it, 265 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: make sure it's grammatically correct, and then deleted, and don't 266 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: send it under any circumstances. There's nothing worth tweeting. Nothing. Yeah, 267 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: oh my goodness. On another NFL subject, Steve Tyrn Matthew 268 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: got a reported three year, thirty three million dollar deal 269 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: to sign with the Saints eighteen million guaranteed, which is 270 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: actually less than what Justin Reid signed for with the 271 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: Chiefs to replace him. He got twenty million guaranteed. So 272 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs to claim they couldn't afford Tyron Matthew 273 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: seems a little counterintuitive. My feeling is they just didn't 274 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: want a twenty nine year old safety when they could 275 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: have a twenty five year old safety for the same money. 276 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: They didn't want a twenty nine year old safety that 277 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: was part of a secondary that was garbage last year. 278 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: The Turan Matthews a pretty good player, I think an 279 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: opportunistic player right there for sure, But man oh Man, 280 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: the chief secondary was hot garbage last year and they're 281 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: changing it up there, and I think maybe that's part 282 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: of the reason he's not there. They wanted, you know, 283 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: they wanted a wholesale change. Now, the question here as 284 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: it pertains to the bills is as follows. Matthew is 285 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: twenty nine. Jordan Poyer, who is asking for more money, 286 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: is thirty one, and you have to believe for his agent, 287 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: Drew Rosenhouse, he's going to try to use this as 288 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: a jumping off point for his client. The problem here 289 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: is Poyer is two years older than Matthew and he's 290 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: getting close to the same money in average annual salary 291 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: right now. He just signed that two year extension worth 292 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: nineteen and a half million, a little over thirteen million guaranteed. 293 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 1: So Poyer's deal has an average annual value of nine 294 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: point seven five million. Matthew's deal is eleven. I mean, 295 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: you're not far off, and you're two years older. I 296 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm just yeah, we'll see where it goes. Obviously, 297 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: but we had Brandon being on the show here yesterday 298 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: and when I was asking him, you know, you still 299 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: might want to fill in your roster here and there 300 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: with some free agents that have either gotten tossed overboard 301 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: by some of their teams based on who they acquired 302 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: in the draft, or there might be guys just still 303 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: sitting out there whose price tag has come way down 304 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: and Brandon told us I need money there, I don't 305 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: have cap space. Yeah, there's gonna be real problems with 306 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: the salary structures of most teams this coming year. For 307 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: this reason, we're going through right now some of these teams. 308 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: If you sign a deal now, the team is putting 309 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: it out there because everybody believes the salary cap is 310 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: gonna skyrocket too, like two thirty, I'm gonna have an 311 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: extra twenty million bucks to spend this next year. The 312 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: problem is you're getting seeing guys like Tyronne Matthew. You 313 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: signed a deal like this at a twenty nine years old, 314 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: and you got another guy over here who's and all 315 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna go, hey, me too, me too, 316 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: Me too, me too. You know, the Tyreek Hill deal 317 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: is gonna send shockwaves through the receiver, right, So you're 318 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: gonna have guys who hit a home run financially, and 319 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: it's gonna cause everybody else at that in that position 320 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: group across the lead to go Hey, I'm better than 321 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: that guy. What are you doing? So it's gonna cause 322 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: some problems and a ripple have a ripple effect through 323 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: because the cap is going up and teams are gonna 324 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: have to decide who's gonna get the money, because they're 325 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: gonna give it to somebody, and these guys who feel 326 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: like they deserve it are gonna have to have a 327 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: choice to make is whether to hold out to get 328 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: it or can they get the club to give it 329 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: to them without holding out. Um. I think it's gonna 330 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: be an issue going forward for the next ten or 331 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: twelve months, maybe the next full calendar year, um coming 332 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: in on what this cap is gonna look like. It'll 333 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: be interesting if the cap goes up to two fifteen, right, 334 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: they're thinking two thirty. What happens if it goes to 335 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: two fifteen, We're gonna we're gonna go back to where 336 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: we were in twenty twenty, twenty twenty or twenty twenty one. 337 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: You know, we'll see. But I think it is going 338 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: to cause a problem. And whenever there's an influx of money, 339 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: how that money gets divvied up. There's a little tension 340 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: there for teams with their own Risters and across the league. 341 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: Based on where Brandon had the cap situation for the Bills, 342 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: I just get the sense it's going to be very 343 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: hard for them to wedge in any kind of oh yeah, 344 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: extension or pay increase. What they can do Boyer this year. 345 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: What they can do is what we've seen before. They 346 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: can they can guarantee a larger portion of a contract 347 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: even though it's the same length, and that doesn't affect 348 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: the cap. They can give them some money up front, 349 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: but the same contract turn turned their salary of the 350 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: third year or the second year or whatever into bonus 351 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: they get now and spread it out over the cap contracts, 352 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: so they get more money. Now. All of that's an option, 353 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: but you need some cash flow for it, and you 354 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: know it's not always there. Certainly, the league is going 355 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: to earn and the teams are gonna be free to 356 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: spend whatever money they've got in next year's cap however 357 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: they want. But they don't. They don't get like an 358 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: advance from the league with that cast. So you gotta 359 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: have actually money to give these guys. That comes down 360 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: to an owner dipping into his own pockets for the 361 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: time being and giving these guys cash until the league 362 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: pays him back with the cap NFL Power rankings post draft, 363 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: the Bills are still number one post draft. They were 364 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: number one pre draft. They are number one post draft. 365 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: Here's what they wrote on NFL dot com. The Bills 366 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: use the draft to put the finishing touches on a 367 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: loaded roster that has balanced on both sides of the ball. 368 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: First round pick Kaier Elam fills the void across from 369 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: stand out cornerback Trey White. Second round picked James Cook, 370 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: brother of Vikings stud Delvin, adds some meated juice to 371 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: the running back room. Josh Allen wasn't exactly hurting for weapons, 372 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: but Cook's versatility, along with the quiet signing of underrated 373 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: slotman Jamison Crowder, will make Buffalo's attack even more difficult 374 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: to contend with. Good luck AFC and is the right 375 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: up on NFL dot com. The rest of the top 376 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: five Steve, You're ready, Rams, Bucks, Bengals, Niners, Where have 377 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: I seen those names? Surprised to see Niners there me 378 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: too a little bit because their quarterback situation is muddled 379 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: at best. Now. Going into the season, they will be healthier, 380 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: but if Trey Lance winds up being the starter. The 381 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: Niners are not fifth in the league. There's no way. 382 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: I realize the division's you know, a little water down 383 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: since Russell Wilson left, but come on, yeah, fifth, and 384 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: I think the Bucks are gonna slide a little bit. 385 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: They've lost some people in free agency, so it's hard 386 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: to it's hard to take it from me, it's hard 387 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: to get back at a level every every year. Um well, 388 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: let's put it this way. Who else is gonna go 389 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: in there? Um? So that's where you run into problems, like, okay, 390 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: with the pack the Packers, packers probably Monte Adams gone 391 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: and they're gonna get back. But I mean, you still 392 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: got the quarterback. You know, that's the problem. Somebody's got 393 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: to go in those slots, and I don't know who else. 394 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: I like the Colts a lot. Yeah, you know that's 395 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: a good one too. I like them too, particularly after 396 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: the season they put together last year. Matt Ryan is 397 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: gonna benefit a great deal from a change of scenes. 398 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: I think so too. You're right, I think they could 399 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: be higher in that. Um. I was just the Niners 400 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: thing with the quarterback situation muddled just it really puzzled me. 401 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: I was like, really, them fifth I don't know. It 402 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: just struck me as strange. I don't throw me a 403 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, I just think like it's sitting at 404 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: this point. You look at a team like, for instance, 405 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals and the little bit of drama they 406 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: had last year with Kyler Murray after the season scrubbing 407 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: his Instagram account or whatever they do, and then that 408 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: now the DeAndre Hopkins scenario. Now they're sitting there looking 409 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: at their locker room going okay, jj watt, oh my god, 410 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, here was the other 411 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: interesting thing that I saw in the NFL dot COM's 412 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: recent power rankings seven Chiefs, eight Broncos, nine Chargers, ten Raiders. 413 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: The entire AFC West goes seven eight nine ten on 414 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: their power rankings seven eight nine ten. Who's tens Raiders? 415 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah right, that's pretty interesting. Yeah, that is pretty interesting 416 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: because those are that we have fun, no question about it, 417 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: and you know what, think about it. That's a division also, 418 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: it could have been seven eight nine ten, it could 419 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: have been six, seven eight nine. You know what I mean. 420 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: They're that's they're good out there, led by the Chiefs, 421 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: and the only reason that you don't start to spread 422 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: them out is because they're gonna beat up on each other. 423 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: They all play each other six times. Yeah, six of 424 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: the top sixteen are NFC teams, the rest are AFC teams. 425 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: So top sixteen teams on the power rankings ten in 426 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: the AFC, six in the NFC, and I don't expect 427 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: that to change much. No, we have to step aside 428 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: and take a break here because when we come back 429 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: we will be talking with the former position coach of 430 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: one Kai Year Elam at the University of Florida, Jules Montenaar, 431 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: will be joining us next to talk a little Kayer 432 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: Elam with us here on One Build's Live presented by 433 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio Builds Live. Chris Brown, 434 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you and in the wake of the 435 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 1: Bills draft class this past weekend, please to be joined 436 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: now by the man who coached Kaier Elam at the 437 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: cornerback position at the University of Florida last year. Now 438 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: the cornerbacks coach at Temple University, Jules Montenar, joining us 439 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: here on the line. And Jules, thanks for carving out 440 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: some time for us. So now you're a Dion Dawkins 441 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: alma mater. So we got some connections there too, are 442 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: left tackle up here. But why don't we art here 443 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: with Kaire because you know you had last season with him, 444 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: So maybe just kind of walk us through your initial 445 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: impressions of him as you walked in the door knowing 446 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: you'd be coaching his position. Yes, sir, Yes, sir. Well, 447 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: first off, I want to say, appreciate you guys for 448 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: having me all. The next thing I want to say 449 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: is this man, hey put the playbook on the plane? Baby? Yeah? Right? 450 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: Could you? Was he that kind of kid when you 451 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: coached him? Is that his way of doing things? Absolutely? Man, 452 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: there's that's That's how he handles his business. That's why 453 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: he's worried out to day. And the next thing I 454 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: want to say is this shout out to the Bill's 455 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: mother field. The Buffalo Bills just got bigger, stronger, and faster. Baby, 456 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah. So when you you know, you walk 457 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: on to campus, he's got a new position. Coach, how 458 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: did you kind of you know, forge that relationship with him? 459 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: And was it pretty easy going knowing he's all about football? Yeah? 460 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: I think you know going into it. So my first 461 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: interaction for Kinder deal and was back in twenty nineteen, 462 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: I was an assistant coach at the University of Florida. 463 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: He came on a recruiting trip and then the three 464 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: schools that came down to was Georgia, Florida, and Colorado. 465 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: He ended up Silo of Florida, and two years later 466 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: I got the cornerback job at Florida. So we linked 467 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: up and and we immediately hit it all. So one 468 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: of the first thing I did, I went back and 469 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: watched all the games from the previous year and made 470 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: a cut up of all his you know good, better 471 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: best and all the you know saw all the great plays, 472 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: continue to do that. There's some good plays that could 473 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: be great, so we worked on those and are some 474 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: plays that needed some improvement. And we just sat down 475 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: the third day on the job and just showing just 476 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: watching the technique and the fundamentals for each particular play. 477 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: We just hit it off from there. And when you 478 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: talk about what you saw in him, not only back then, 479 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: but this year, was how big a difference was there 480 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: or did you notice? And you know how you know, 481 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: how great a talent do you think Kier can be? 482 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: And as particularly at the level you saw this last year. Yeah, 483 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: I think the sky is a living for him. I mean, 484 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: he's a young man still, he's twenty years old. He's 485 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: played a lot of football, He's played in a very 486 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: very good conference, and I think his best football is 487 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: probably ahead of him. You know. So going into the season, 488 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: obviously there's all this hype about you know, this big 489 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: time corner, you know, projected first round draft picked corner 490 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,959 Speaker 1: in my room, and it was my job to make sure, 491 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, that happened. And there's a lot of things 492 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: that you know, that's the guy when I got there, 493 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: he was already developed already, you know. So my job was, hey, 494 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: number one, let's build a great relationship. Number two, let's 495 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: find a way to enhance some of the some of 496 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: the things that that needed from tweaking. And one of 497 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: the one of the best things Kyler does is pressman technique. 498 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: You know, when we find a way to improve that 499 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: and enhance it, and he is very, very consistent throughout 500 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: the year. And we really just broken down in three 501 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: different things. We talk about level one, level two, level three, 502 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: Level ones. A lot of Strimmer's Level two is the 503 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: intermediate route. Level three is a deep bart the field. 504 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: If you go back and watch the state this past year. Now, 505 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: if you look at the stat sheet, you know there 506 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of stats on the deep bar of 507 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: the field. Well many of the reason. Part of the 508 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: reason is not a lot of teams are thrown at 509 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: him because he had his guys co Yeah. The one 510 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: thing that people wonder about him is, you know, what 511 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: happens when he's playing off what happens when he's playing 512 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: in the zone concepts. And because it's more reactive, you're not, 513 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: you know, just relying largely on your physical ability as 514 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: you are when you're impressed, man, you have to react 515 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more. So. I'm not you know, I'm 516 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 1: not going to pretend to know how much zone you 517 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: guys played down there, or how much you asked him to, 518 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: you know, participate in zone concepts, because maybe he was 519 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: just locking up the other team's best guy the whole game. 520 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that. Um, how would you feel he's 521 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, I know he's a student of the game, 522 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: but how do you feel his game translates to knowing 523 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: how to play off of his teammates in the secondary 524 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: and zone concepts and things like that. He'll be good 525 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: to go whatever the task has asked him, He's gonna 526 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: work at it, and to his vest of bilibility. Now 527 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: from a defensive thematic standpoint, you know, primarily we were 528 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: a Chris Man a man. A lot of our cores 529 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: was man match, a lot of our three deep was 530 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: man match. So that's what that's That was just what 531 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: we did. Now. At the same time, we did have 532 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: some Zonn concepts as well too, and I feel like 533 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna degrade at his own concept. You know, he 534 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: has excellent uh he plays the ball well in the 535 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: deep part of the field. He has a really good 536 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: field for wide receivers in the deep part of the field, 537 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: and I also think that's part one of the strengths 538 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: of his games, being able to play, you know, forty 539 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: forty five fifty yards away away from the lone of streamers, 540 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: not anakin in the deep part of the field versus 541 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver. So the answer the question, I don't think 542 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: that won't be an issue at all. We just particularly 543 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: asked him to play a lot of pressman a man 544 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: and we did sprinkle some off coverage and he'll be 545 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: good to go there. We have talked about how gifted 546 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: he is he's you know, big, he's a big athlete. 547 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: He's long and rangey at the corner spot and fast 548 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: and he's got all that. Talked to us a little bit. 549 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: We got a glimpse of it in some of the 550 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: pre draft processes. After the draft, they went back and 551 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: showed us what his interview was like in Indianapolis when 552 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: they had him in and what they talked about in 553 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: that interview. What kind of give us a night insight 554 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: is your relationship with him as a coach every day 555 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: when you see him coming in, how he affects other players, 556 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: what the other players think about him, and as you said, 557 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: he's really young for an NFL player coming out of 558 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: college at the age he is at twenty. Absolutely well, 559 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: I'll say that he lead by example and he's also 560 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: a vocal league. So for instance, you know, like I 561 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: talked about him and I having those one on one meetings, 562 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: and when we were having those one on one meetings, 563 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: he would pull out his notebook and he would be 564 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: writing notes down and he's the coach slow down and second, 565 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: I got to write that down. So as you're learning 566 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: about the guy that that's that's pretty impressive now, and 567 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't just for a show and then and then 568 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: we get into our position meetings. I mean he would 569 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: he would write down everything I stead or deepens coordinator 570 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: or secondary coach, whatever, whatever the whatever meeting were in. 571 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: He had his notebook and pen ready to go. And 572 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: and meanwhile, some of the lesser count guys wasn't always 573 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: taking the notes that they needed to. And here's a 574 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: guy that's a you know, projected you know, to NFL Prospect, 575 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: and he's taking out and he's taking all the notes. 576 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: So to me, that was really really impressive. And then 577 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: I saw the clippings up him putting out, pulling out 578 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: his notebook and showing the uh, the the scouts and 579 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: the general managers the type of notes that he took. 580 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: You know that that's that's true. That's that that is 581 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: a true statement. And those a lot of those things 582 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: that goes on the seen. And the last thing I'll 583 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: say about that is, you know, and before I trans 584 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: trans before I move forward, I'll also use that example 585 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: with my current players. You're at Temple, you know what 586 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Hey, when you're in the meeting room, write 587 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: the information down so you can go back and study 588 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: it and Kayer as a student of the game, and 589 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: he's he comes from a great family. Um, you know 590 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: his with his dad and and and uncle. You know 591 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: the name el him and the state of Florida, you 592 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: know anything about the state the floor that holds a 593 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: lot of weight. And for him to be able to 594 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: work hard the last three years and put himself in 595 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: this position, I'm really really happy for the guy. And 596 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm proud of him. He's an excellent young man. His 597 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: mom and dad's meeting. His mom is stil and his 598 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: dad age the great people. He's got a great support 599 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: team and and kier is a driven guy. Now, I 600 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: mean we I text him, you know, congratulations at the 601 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: draft and his first response was like, hey, coach, I 602 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: appreciate it, you know, appreciate it. And he did it 603 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: for me. He's like, but I'm pissed off. He's there's 604 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: three guys they got a draft to ahead of me, 605 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: and I got something to prove. And that's just that's 606 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: just how he rolls. You know. Another story I'm gonna 607 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: tell you is this. You know, during the course of 608 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: the year, you know, I can remember one particulous Saturday. 609 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: You know, I had a recruit I had a recruit 610 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: end and I needed somebody to go hang out with him. 611 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: And I called Kayer around eight thirty nine o'clock say, hey, 612 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: well you mind taking this guy out for me. He's 613 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: a coach. You know, I'm gonna cleeve. I'm in the bed, 614 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: you know what. I'm trying to get my ready. I'm 615 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: trying to get my body ready for the following week. No. 616 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: So I'm just happy for the guy because as a 617 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: coach I've coached, and you work from Division two all 618 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: the way down to the Power five level, and it's 619 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: very seldom you run to a young man, you know, 620 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: with his character and his working Yeah. Well, listen, Jules, 621 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 1: we appreciate your painting the picture a little bit better 622 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: for us on Kaire. Good luck up there at Temple. 623 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: It's coming fall, all right, and we'll catch up with 624 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: you down the line. Thanks very much, Yester, Thank you mate. 625 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: You guys have a great one. Jules, I appreciate thanks. 626 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 1: That's former Florida cornerbacks coach Jules Monton are now coaching 627 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: cornerbacks at Temple University, but pretty much spent every single 628 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: day of the football season last year as Kayer's position coach, 629 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: and I am not the least bit surprised that he 630 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: has ticked off that three corners are actually what was 631 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: it two corners? No, it was three. Three corners went 632 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: in front of him Trent McDuffie and then saw us 633 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: along with Derek Stingley. So he's mad that he was 634 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: the fourth corner taken off the board and he'll probably 635 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: write the number three in his locker or something. Brandon 636 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: Bean did say after they drafted him that Kaier's personality 637 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: and approach to the game is very similar to that 638 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: of Tredevius. And I remember the first day Tredevious Scott 639 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: here and you know, he's kind of moving into his 640 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: locker and everything and it's OTAs and whatever, and he 641 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: stuck a picture of Hall of Fame gold jacket onto 642 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: the top of his locker and I said, I think 643 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: I know the answer to this todays, but why is 644 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: that there? He goes, that's to remind me that I'm 645 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: here to go to the Hall of Fame because I 646 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 1: want to be one of the best corners to ever play. 647 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: And Kaier said almost the same exact thing when he 648 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: got here at one Bill's Drive. Appreciate you drafted me. 649 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to be just great for this organization. 650 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: I want to be one of the greatest corners of 651 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: all time. So you see why Brandon Bean feels as 652 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: though this kid's got the same kind of approach to 653 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: the game. Very businesslike, very detail oriented, and very committed. 654 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: That usually spells success in this league, absolutely that, because 655 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 1: it takes a lot. It's hard for the young guys, 656 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: particularly guys of Kaier's age. He's twenty years old. Has 657 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: we've been talking about me. He's gonna turn twenty one 658 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: the next week or two, right, So it's hard for 659 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: them because you can imagine I mean, at a young age, 660 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: players like kai Yer and you know Tremaine Edmonds and 661 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: you know Greg Rousseau and these guys that are so 662 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: physically gifted. They're set apart at a young age and 663 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: they start, you know, advancing fast through the levels of football, 664 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: and they just do it because they're gifted. You know, 665 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: they're smart, they get the game, they have an awareness 666 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: of the game. So in that environment that they start 667 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: getting distilled out and more and more guys are like that, 668 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: and they even stand out amongst those guys. Right, you 669 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: get to a Power five school like Florida. There's a 670 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: lot of great athletes on that team, and that's why 671 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: they're there is because they're great athletes. It's hard to 672 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: make a connection for a lot of these young players. 673 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: That the connection comes to this when you start to 674 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 1: work really hard at it and you've got those gifts, 675 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: that's when you start to be thought of as an 676 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: NFL player. And then you know, then it goes beyond that. 677 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: You got to go to the right system. You got 678 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: to you gotta have a right head coach, you gotta 679 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 1: have the work ethic, you gotta have a good teammates 680 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: around you gotta have it. You got to continue to 681 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: build on your what you've done and get better at 682 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: it and make your hone your skill. You just got 683 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: to keep working and working and working. And then the 684 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: culmination of that later is is the stuff that Kayer's 685 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: talking about. You know, you get a gold jacket that 686 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: kind of you get a busting canton. They don't make 687 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: the connection between the disconnect between what got them to 688 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: the Power five is not the same thing that's going 689 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: to get them to the NFL. And that's and that's 690 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 1: the thing that NFL scouting departments are trying to uncover 691 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: in each and everyone player when they vet them and 692 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: interview them and all of that stuff. Why do you 693 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: want to get to the NFL. If somebody says, well, 694 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, I want to support my family, that's fine, 695 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: that's that's a driving motivator. Sure, you know, and it's noble. Yeah, 696 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: some might say, you know, I just want to get 697 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: to the league. That's probably the wrong answer because now 698 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: the team is thinking, well, what happens when he gets 699 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: to the league. The work's just beginning when you get drafted. Yeah, 700 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: that's that's not a means to an end. That's his 701 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: that's his the end of his road. So that kind 702 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: of thing got to be the beginning, right. So that 703 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: kind of thing can send up red flags for some 704 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: NFL clubs because they're like, well, what he's gonna He's 705 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: just gonna sign his rookie contract and mail it in 706 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: from there, and that's not what we want. It's then 707 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: you hear a kid say I want to be the best, 708 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: one of the best to ever play the game. That 709 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: gets your attention because they are looking beyond getting drafted, 710 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: they're looking beyond making a fifty three man roster. Their level, 711 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: what their level of success it is in their mind 712 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: far exceeds what most people's are because they want to 713 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: be one of the best to ever do it. They're 714 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: getting that's rare air. Yeah, they're not getting compared to 715 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: the guys on their own on their own team, like, hey, 716 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: he's our best corner. That's great. They're getting compared to 717 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: guys who played twenty five years before they even showed up. Yeah. Um, 718 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a high bar and it's 719 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: also one that you'll never reach. The debate will be 720 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: on it even if you go to Canton. It will 721 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: be a debate that don't go goes on and on 722 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: and on. It's it's having goal. And I'll say this, 723 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: this all sounds really high. You know, this all sounds 724 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: like it's a little subtle difference between one with the 725 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: reasons the guys playing. Let me tell you something, it 726 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: makes all the difference. The motivation these guys have behind 727 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: what they do makes all the difference in the world. 728 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: It absolutely is the difference between being just a draft 729 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: pick and being an all time great guy, great player 730 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: not only for an organization but in the history of 731 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: the league all time. The difference between those guys is 732 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: virtually what goes on in their own mind, what keeps 733 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: them driving in the offseason. We are having a conversation 734 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: upstairs this morning about and I laugh when I say it. 735 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: I think back to Jim, and I think to Bruce, 736 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: and I think of Thurman Thomas and Andre Reid for 737 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, Hall of famers. I was laughing because all 738 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: of them have something in their personality that's a little 739 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: bit exaggerated, and that exaggeration inside their personality gave them 740 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 1: this motivation that they couldn't shake. Even to this day, 741 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: they can't shake it. They're the same guy somewhere in there. 742 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: You see guys like Jerry Rice and Walter Payton, and 743 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: these guys like Lawrence Taylor and the you know, these 744 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: great iconic names, even Aaron Rodgers the Games of the 745 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: current day, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady is a great example. 746 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: There's something in there. You get a guy like Tom 747 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: Brady who's made fifteen tons of cash and he's married 748 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: to a supermodel, he's got a beautiful bunch of kids happy. 749 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: That guy can't sleep if he's retired. Yeah, there's something 750 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: in there that keeps that guy. There's something in there 751 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: that he's got a burden that he has to carry 752 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 1: that he can't shake, and it you can. It sounds 753 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: a little creepy, and it is because there's something about 754 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: a guy who's made all the money, who's reached the 755 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: pinnacle and still can't let it go. But that's exactly 756 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: why he's at the pinnacle. That's right. That's why those 757 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: guys and that's why also too, Brownie. I've said a 758 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,479 Speaker 1: gazillion times, it rarely ends well for the really great 759 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: ones because they can't let it go. They can't let 760 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 1: it go. That's those are the kind of guys Brandon Bean, Malik, 761 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: Dan Morgan, Joe Shank, all these guys. That's why they're 762 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: looking for those guys. Yeah, and they're hard to find. 763 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: They're hard to find. We have to take a break 764 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: here when we come back the very interesting independent review 765 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: into the allegations made by former Brown's head coach Hugh Jackson. 766 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: They're claiming the allegations could not be substantiated. But at 767 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: the same time, the investigation never spoke to Hugh Jackson. 768 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: We'll dive into that next here. On one Bill's line 769 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: presented by a lot of health, it's Buffalo Bill's Radio. So, 770 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: following a sixty day independent review into comments made by 771 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: former Cleveland head coach Hugh Jackson, who claimed that the 772 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: Browns paid or otherwise provided incentives to lose games during 773 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen seventeen seasons when he was head coach, 774 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: former US Attorney an SEC Chair Mary Joe White and 775 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: a team of lawyers and I'm going to mispronounce this 776 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 1: from the Debavois firm determined that none of the allegations 777 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 1: could be substantiated. Now. They spoke to and interviewed owner 778 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslam, current and former members of the organization, and 779 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: coach Jackson initially agreed to sit down with them and 780 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 1: then ultimately decided not to do so. The firm did 781 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: have access to his public statements and his filings and 782 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: testimony in a prior arbitration proceeding, but all those thousands 783 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: of pages of documents, emails, texts, internal memos, and presentation 784 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: decks and other material, they basically decided there's nothing to 785 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: go on here. So, for those that don't remember, Hugh 786 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: Jackson kind of piggybacked the Brian Flores lawsuit and said, oh, yeah, 787 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: we did that up in Cleveland. We threw games, and 788 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, people got incentives for it. It was part 789 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 1: of our four year plan to like tank and high 790 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: draft picks, rebound and become a competitive team. So the 791 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 1: league didn't like how that sounded, so they decided to 792 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,919 Speaker 1: investigate him, and ultimately they turned up nothing. They didn't Yeah, 793 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: they didn't say that the audigations weren't true. They just 794 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: said they couldn't be substantiated. So, yeah, where do you 795 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: go from here? And the Brian Flores suit is still pending. 796 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what's the latest time it's still going. 797 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 1: Haven't heard anything new on it. And let's not forget 798 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,320 Speaker 1: Brian Flores is employed. He's an assistant coach with the Steelers, 799 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: so you know he's suing the league, suing the league 800 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,280 Speaker 1: that's employing him. And he made this, he made serious 801 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 1: allegations about Stephen Ross. I'll say this, Miami fans should 802 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: be suing the Dolphins for fire and Brian Flores the 803 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: guy was making chicken salad. Yeah, and you know, not 804 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: to mention the fact that what did they finish eight 805 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: and one at the end of the last nine games. 806 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: I mean they finished strong. I mean certainly they got 807 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: off to they could not have gotten out to a 808 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: worst starting. They were crying. And I called it before 809 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 1: before they started this, I told you they were gonna 810 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:33,240 Speaker 1: start five and one and five and they did jagging nabbitt. 811 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: I didn't know they're gonna start one and eight. I 812 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: can only take my prediction so far into the future, right, 813 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: But they turned it around and they started winning games 814 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: and Brian Flores playing hard for him despite all that 815 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 1: they did. And I'll say this too if if you 816 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: come into an organization and the Bills were no different. Now. 817 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: The Bills made it to the playoffs in their first 818 00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: year with Sean McDermott, but don't forget they still had 819 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: tons of roster development to go through and change out. 820 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: And he also took him two or three. It was 821 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: his third year before he got the coaching staff the 822 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: way he wanted it. That's true. So you'd think that 823 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: the same thing had to be true for Brian Flores, 824 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 1: and I think he got to I mean, as an owner, 825 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: don't you have to see that happening? And as a 826 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: as a coach, don't you say, yeah, we're gonna do 827 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,720 Speaker 1: you know, we need to keep evolving, and particularly guys 828 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: who were first time head coaches like McDermott and Flores, 829 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: where you got to say, okay, all right, you know 830 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: there's some that had to be fourth right, and and 831 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: the ownership has to know there's gonna be some things 832 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 1: this guy is to get under his belt before he 833 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: gets him right as a head coach. You know, I 834 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: just I just thought that firing was ridiculous. Yes, And 835 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: Stephen Ross is now battling a lawsuit on one front, 836 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: and then these allegations on another of illegally tampering with 837 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Right um, Wally was still under contract with 838 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: the Bucks, and then after he retired, he supposedly was 839 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: ready to sign him and make him part owner of 840 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, and then that all blew up super 841 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: Bowl Week because of the allegations that came out in 842 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: the Brian Flora's lawsuit, where presumably Brady said, Hey, you 843 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna step back, man. I don't want 844 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: to be naive, and I know there's gotta be a 845 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,919 Speaker 1: you know, a rule book the size of an old 846 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'll date myself the size of a phone book. 847 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: There's gotta be a rule book for owners the size 848 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: of a phone book, not only on what happens on 849 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: the field, but off the field as well. That's what 850 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: they can and cannot do. And most of these owners 851 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,720 Speaker 1: realize and this just in there. They may they're breaking 852 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: the rules of the league. They ain't breaking any laws. 853 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: Nobody cares. Right, it's got to be the league and 854 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: the game issue. That's right, But it's the integrity of 855 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: the game is the only thing holding it together. And 856 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: that's the commissioner's job. So and and they're not set 857 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: up to enforce that. They're going to this law firm, Hey, 858 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: could you look into this for us. They're not set 859 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 1: up to We need to be independent and transparent. Yeah, 860 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,760 Speaker 1: but they're not set up to enforce these rules. Everybody's 861 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: got to say, hey, listen, we ask you owners, keep 862 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: your people in line, tell them to follow the rules. 863 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: Other than that, there's no NFL police force going out 864 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: and saying, hey, by the way, you were you were 865 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: made this phone call that's illegal. You can't call You 866 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: can't call Tom Brady, so stop that. They don't have that. 867 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,240 Speaker 1: It's all on the honor system. And you're talking about 868 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: owners who are multi billionaires who can't feel like they 869 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: get what they want. Well, not only that, some of 870 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,240 Speaker 1: them became billionaires by playing a little dirty at times. 871 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: Well we like to say that, but I don't know 872 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: about all of them did that. They certainly they're certainly struggling. 873 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: Some of them are struggling with it. Now. You look 874 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 1: the Washington commanders and all the stuff that's gone on 875 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: with them over the last handful of years. You gotta 876 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: think that when they're looking at the league rule book, 877 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: they're thinking, you know that there's you know, they're using 878 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 1: it as a trivet for a casserole dish. And there's 879 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: an allegation there by the House Oversight Committee that they 880 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: were kind of cooking their books, right, so at the 881 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: whole other ball of wax. So that's the point is 882 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: unless they cross the line legally, the rest of us 883 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: just breaking rules in a in a private sport. Nobody, 884 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: you know, nobody's really got any purview except the commissioner, 885 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: and he does not he doesn't have, like I say, 886 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,319 Speaker 1: he doesn't have an enforcement arm right because he works 887 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: for them in the grand scheme of things. Right, we 888 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: have to take a break here. When we come back, 889 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: it will be our final visit of the NFL off 890 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:44,360 Speaker 1: season with senior producer from NFL Films Greg coo sell 891 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: as he will give us his thumbnail sketch of Buffalo's 892 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 1: draft haul over the weekend. I know he's super excited 893 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,720 Speaker 1: about one guy that got taken in the second round. 894 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: We'll talk with Greg co sell here next on One 895 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Collat Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. 896 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,799 Speaker 1: At a Steve tester who has been all all over 897 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of a 898 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're 899 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: not even in the stratoire of normalcy, all right here, 900 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: we are our number two on a Tuesday, and this 901 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,439 Speaker 1: is not normally a day where we get a visit 902 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 1: from our next guest. But always happy to welcome in 903 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 1: senior producer from NFL Films, Greg co Selle as he 904 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 1: puts a very neat bow on the Bill's draft class 905 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,280 Speaker 1: with us. Greg got from a long weekend of endless picks? 906 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,080 Speaker 1: Oh can Greg hear us? Or did he think? Okay? Um? 907 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: So I had asked you if you're recovered from a 908 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: long weekend of endless picks? Um? Well, uh, yes and no, yeah, 909 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: you know that that's uh, that's that's an open question. 910 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,879 Speaker 1: He's still watching tape. That's why I am. I still 911 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: catching up on some guys I met. You are, all right, 912 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 1: so let go many? Um, all right, so let's begin here. Uh. 913 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 1: I figured we might as well start with your your 914 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: favorite pick maybe in the entire draft. Who knows, I don't. 915 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't just I couldn't ascertain whether you liked James 916 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: Cook or George Pickens more in this entire draft class. 917 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 1: So you can straighten us out on that, and then 918 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 1: you can get into Cook because people were saying, oh, 919 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: the bills, they didn't get a receiver on any of 920 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: the first two days. Uh, And I'm sitting here saying 921 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: they got a really good one. Yeah, exactly. Really, we're 922 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 1: gonna talk about him too, Yeah, we will. One of 923 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: my favorite I know, Hey, I make a list. I 924 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys can see this. I make 925 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,560 Speaker 1: a list of guys I really like when I watched, 926 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,759 Speaker 1: because I normally get asked, well, who are the guys 927 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: you like? And if I don't make a list, I 928 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,279 Speaker 1: can't remember since I watched too many guys. Right, So 929 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: three guys that were on my list of guys I 930 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 1: really liked, and of course I hope people understand I 931 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: do all this work before the draft, not after the draft, 932 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,720 Speaker 1: so I don't know where guys are going to be drafted. 933 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: Three guys on my list are James Cook, Terrell Bernard, 934 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: and Kali Khalil Shakier. Oh, I'm just letting you know 935 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 1: that they look at that you guys that were on 936 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: my list of guys that I really like. So so anyway, 937 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm available. If Brandon Bean needs, you know, a 938 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: little help increase my investment portfolio a little bit, I'm 939 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: good to go independent contract. So Brownie and I were 940 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 1: talking before the show. We were we spent y the 941 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: whole show, it seemed like on Friday talking about James Cook. 942 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: And we had Greg on too, talking about and we 943 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 1: were talking to him about you do you about him? 944 00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: And we didn't know. We had no idea. I didn't 945 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: know either. Who knows, Yeah, who knows? So all of 946 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 1: a sudden, there he is. They take him and after 947 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: trading back twice, we can claim genius. But back then 948 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,240 Speaker 1: we had no idea. But this guy, I think it's important. 949 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: I think it's important that we claim genius. Steve. I mean, 950 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: I think it's important that I say I knew exactly 951 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 1: that they were going to take James Cook, and that's 952 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: why we spend all day talking about it. All right, now, 953 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 1: then enhance your genius and tell us why, well, no, 954 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: I think the key point and again it's not a 955 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: matter of being smart, but I think it's just you know, look, 956 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a long time. I watched 957 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: the Bills obviously every single week, so I've studied their 958 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 1: offense in detail. It just struck me that James Cook 959 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: really fit what the Bills are offensively, because, as we 960 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 1: discussed last week, the Bills are not looking for a 961 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 1: bell cow back. They're not looking for a volume runner. 962 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 1: They're looking for an explosive player who again give them carries, 963 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: but can also be a significant factor in the past game. 964 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 1: And to me, they were two backs like that in 965 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: this draft, James Cook and was Shot White from Arizona State, 966 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 1: who the Bucks I believe took, but Cook was the 967 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: more explosive of the two. So that to me just 968 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: made conceptual sense understanding the Bill's offense and understanding the 969 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,400 Speaker 1: player James Cook, right, and he even though he is 970 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: not a receiver in position listing, he unquestionably is going 971 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: to diversify this bill's passing game right, without question, without question. 972 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's again why this was such. You know, 973 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm not, like I said, I'm not going to sit 974 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: here and say wow, I knew I'm not. First of all, 975 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm not that guy. I don't pat myself on the back. 976 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,280 Speaker 1: I just grind away. But I think about this stuff, 977 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: as you guys know, far more than I probably should. 978 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,359 Speaker 1: But it just seemed to make conceptual sense. You know, 979 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: as the draft started to unfold, and you know, even 980 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 1: as we discussed over the last number of weeks, Chris, 981 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 1: as we were just going through players and trying to 982 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: put them in the context of the bill, it just 983 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 1: seemed to me to make tactical, schematic, conceptual sense. And 984 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:06,720 Speaker 1: I asked you this Friday, and we had this conversation. 985 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: I want to have it once again. I'm gonna ask 986 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: you about this positionless football player. On both sides of 987 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: the ball, we've got guys that are hybrid safeties, hybrid linebackers. 988 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,399 Speaker 1: These guys that move all around, have different skill sets, 989 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: that can blitz, they can cover and do all that. 990 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,479 Speaker 1: On the offensive side, we don't see that as much. 991 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: Now we see a guy that maybe he's a bell 992 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 1: cow back and catch and running all that, but we 993 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 1: don't see guys that maybe can play wide out and 994 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: running back. Now we're seeing Deebo Samuel's he's kind of 995 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: doing that. So is Cordarell Patterson. They're using him that way, 996 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 1: and those guys are all of a sudden, these really 997 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,879 Speaker 1: attention grabbing players around the league. That wow, what everybody wants. One. 998 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: Does James Cook have a chance at that in a 999 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: different way? I certainly not that size, but I think yes. 1000 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 1: I you know, one of the things that talking to 1001 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 1: offensive coaches as I do, you know friends of mine 1002 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 1: who coach in the league. One of the things I 1003 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: constantly hear about Steve, and I think this makes really 1004 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: good sense, is what are you trying to do for 1005 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: your quarterback. You're trying to have your quarterback, in a sense, 1006 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: win before the ball snap. In other words, give him 1007 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 1: as much information about the defense before the ball is snapped. 1008 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: We know that playing quarterbacks not easy, but you're trying 1009 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: to make it less difficult. And I think when you 1010 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: have players like this, and you can be more diverse 1011 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: formationally with certain kinds of players, the defense has to 1012 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 1: declare in many ways before the ball is snapped how 1013 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: they're going to play. And I think that's why players 1014 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: like this are so so important. I mean, we even 1015 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: see players like Cooper Cupp, who is a receiver, correct, 1016 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: but we've seen him at times line up offset in 1017 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: the backfield. What it does, and you know this steve 1018 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: from having played with a team that you know, it 1019 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: was one of the early no huddle teams. I guess 1020 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 1: Sam which did it before you, guys, but you were 1021 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: one of the earlier no huddle teams lined up and played. 1022 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: Is the defense can't communicate as much, the defense can't 1023 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: do as many things, and they line up in what 1024 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: coaches call their default defense. And every coach knows what 1025 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: the default defense of the opponent is. And that's what 1026 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 1: these kinds of players do. They put the defense in 1027 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: a position where all that communication and adjustment kind of 1028 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: goes out the window, and you have to line up 1029 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: in a default defense just so you can play right. 1030 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 1: One of the other guys on your card, Torell Bernard, 1031 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, goes in wheels with pick eighty nine. And 1032 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,200 Speaker 1: while I think he's unquestionably a really strong, you know, 1033 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 1: diagnosed type linebacker, you look at his measurables and you 1034 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: translate them to the NFL. And I gotta believe Greg, 1035 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 1: if you want him to be as productive as you 1036 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: think he can be, you're going to really have to 1037 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: keep him clean from offensive lineman climbing to the second level. 1038 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 1: You gotta have some good defensive tackles so he can 1039 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: just go run and hit and not get caught up 1040 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: on blocks. Because at two hundred nineteen pounds at the 1041 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: second level of defense, I think that's gonna be true. 1042 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: Not that he's playing linebacker here anytime soon, but if 1043 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: he ever does, I kind of think you're the only 1044 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 1: way to get the most out of what he can 1045 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 1: do is by keeping him clean. Yeah, and you know, 1046 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 1: I know at the Combine he was two twenty four. 1047 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what his actual playing weight is as 1048 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: we know, this guy's changed for the Combine. But you know, 1049 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 1: I think that he's actually a pretty intriguing player. I 1050 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: thought that he could end up being a multi alignment 1051 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: linebacker that could play both in your nickel and in 1052 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 1: your bass. You know, I think that he can play. 1053 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: I think his past coverage improved dramatically as the season progressed. 1054 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: He's a very, very good Blitzer and was used in 1055 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: that role at Baylor, So I actually the more I 1056 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 1: watched him, and I ended up watching a lot of 1057 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Baylor because they had they a couple of guys. I 1058 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 1: think they had three or four guys in this draft. Um. 1059 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't call him elite explosive, but I think 1060 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: there's he's got the overall movement, trades to make plays 1061 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 1: outside the box. As I said, he improved in past coverage. UM, 1062 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I really liked the player. The injury 1063 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: history was probably a factor for some teams, but he 1064 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,919 Speaker 1: was to me a really good prospect. Is he? And 1065 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't want to put you on 1066 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 1: the spot by referencing the Bills roster, but I mean 1067 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 1: you've got Matt Milano and and still in the fold 1068 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 1: who's a kind of an undersized guy who's a coverage linebacker, 1069 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 1: runs and hits. And then also he's here in replacement 1070 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: it seems, at least in numbers wise to Aj Klein, 1071 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 1: who had moments here in Buffalo as a as a starter. 1072 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: Because of injuries and all that, How does how does 1073 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 1: Bernard fit into those kind of slots with what the 1074 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Bills have on the roster and the roles they need filled. 1075 01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 1: If injury happens, well, I would think in an ideal world, Steve, 1076 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 1: they would like Bernard to become that third linebacker. We 1077 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 1: know that this team is a nickel team. I mean 1078 01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: last year, with the exception of a very few games 1079 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 1: where they clearly played bass personnel offenses, they were literally 1080 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 1: a nickel on every snap. They had the highest percentage 1081 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: of nickel defense in the NFL a year ago. So 1082 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 1: this is a team that plays with two linebackers. I 1083 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 1: would expect that they would see Bernard. I mean, a 1084 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 1: third round pick is not a throwaway pick, so I 1085 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: would I would expect that they would see Bernard as 1086 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,439 Speaker 1: becoming a J Klein at some point. And who knows 1087 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 1: when that happens. But obviously Milano signed. I guess we 1088 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: have to wait and see what's Edmund's status in this 1089 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: fifth year option year, right, So I mean they'll make 1090 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: a decision obviously on him at some point I would 1091 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,000 Speaker 1: imagine sooner than later. But the point is I would 1092 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,600 Speaker 1: think they would they would hope Bernard, assuming Edmunds is 1093 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: still there, that he would become that third guy who 1094 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 1: if there was an injury to let's say that Bernard 1095 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 1: could fill that role. Now he's not going to fill 1096 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: that role tomorrow, but that maybe with coaching, with experience, 1097 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,960 Speaker 1: that he could become that kind of player. And then 1098 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 1: we had Brandon being in studio yesterday and I said, 1099 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 1: Khalil Shakier must have really been sticking out on your 1100 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 1: board if you're going to make a move twenty spots 1101 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,480 Speaker 1: up the board to go get him, and he said yeah. 1102 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: He said, actually, we probably would have taken him had 1103 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 1: we kept our fourth round pick at one thirty instead 1104 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 1: of drafting him near the top of the fifth round. So, 1105 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 1: and Brandon also said, Greg, I think you'll find this 1106 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 1: interesting that he envisions him as a number four in 1107 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 1: their wide receiver room and capable of backing up all 1108 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 1: three spots, which is the exact same role that Gabriel 1109 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 1: Davis had as a rookie. Here. Yeah, I mean, I 1110 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 1: love Shaquier's tape. I mean I really did, so, Brandon 1111 01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 1: being and I would agree on this. Now, in twenty 1112 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: twenty one, seventy percent of his receptions came out of 1113 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 1: the slot. I would imagine some evaluators and teams saw 1114 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: him solely as a slot. And I personally think he's 1115 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 1: the kind of guy that could roll out of bed 1116 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: tomorrow and line up in the slot in the NFL. 1117 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 1: But he's not small. He's six feet one ninety six, 1118 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 1: so he can play outside as well, And it wouldn't 1119 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: surprise me at all. And you, well, you just answered 1120 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 1: the question if they see him as someone who can 1121 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: line up both outside and in the slot. And I 1122 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,960 Speaker 1: did say in my transition notes that he has the 1123 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 1: versatility to line up in multiple locations within the formation, 1124 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 1: so he's versatiles. To me, he was a refined and 1125 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: detailed route runner that showed separation quickness, has outstanding body 1126 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 1: control and hands run after catch, and this kid is 1127 01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 1: super competitive. I really liked his tape. I have seen him, 1128 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: and I don't, as you guys know, I don't do 1129 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: draft boards and say what round I think a guy 1130 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 1: should go in. But I easily could have seen him 1131 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: as better than a fifth round pick. And what jumped 1132 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 1: out at you? I mean we always see, you know, 1133 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 1: when when we go to look at these guys there, 1134 01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 1: it's all highlights. Yeah, but he's got some circus type catches. Yeah. Well, 1135 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,520 Speaker 1: if you're asking me, Steve, what stood out? Yeah? I 1136 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 1: would say what stood out was body control and hands. Um, 1137 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, he showed the ability to make catches that 1138 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 1: did not seem possible. Um, so you know that that 1139 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 1: really really stood out. Plus the other thing I would 1140 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 1: say would be his competitiveness. So those two things really 1141 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 1: stood out to me. What about of comparing him to 1142 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,520 Speaker 1: a pro that has been on the Bills roster, a 1143 01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 1: guy like uh like Cole Beasley, UH, slot guys like 1144 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie, certainly different kinds of skill sets. What stands 1145 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 1: out in contrasting those guys. I think he's different. Well, 1146 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: he's more versatile. I mean Beasley Beasley was almost your 1147 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 1: kind of quintessential slot guy. I mean obviously on the 1148 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: Bills there were times he did line up outside, but 1149 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 1: he was, to me, and I think to most kind 1150 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 1: of the quintessential slot guy. Um, he's not quite as 1151 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: big as Gabriel Davis, but I mean you're getting you're 1152 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 1: getting Shakiir who can line up anywhere. Davis, who can 1153 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: line up anywhere. And from what I understand, and you 1154 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 1: guys would know this better than I, I understand that 1155 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Gabriel Davis is incredibly smart and really can do anything 1156 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 1: you can give him anything and he can do it. Um. 1157 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,479 Speaker 1: I really like Shakiir's tape an awful lot um. So 1158 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, I when when when I saw the list 1159 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,959 Speaker 1: of who the Bills drafted, um, you know, and saw 1160 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 1: them draft these guys, especially when they took Bernard, which 1161 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 1: I guess was Friday night because that was round three, 1162 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: and then when I saw them take Shakiir, I was 1163 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 1: I was really happy because again, the only way I 1164 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: can judge this is based on my evaluation. That's the 1165 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 1: only way I can do it, not what others say 1166 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,320 Speaker 1: or where they think they should go. You know, after 1167 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: your draft guys, to me, where you think they should 1168 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,960 Speaker 1: go becomes meaningless. If all these guys turn out to 1169 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: be good players, that's all they care about. Oh yeah, exactly. Now, 1170 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 1: their last pick in the draft was a guy who 1171 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 1: has similar measurables and similar it would seem similar skill 1172 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 1: set to Bernard in Bail inspector. Yeah, I don't think 1173 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: he's as good as Bernard, And I know what you're saying. 1174 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 1: You know, I think that, you know, he's one of 1175 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 1: those He struck me as just a really good college linebacker. 1176 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,320 Speaker 1: And I don't mean that in a meaning way. I 1177 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 1: mean He's a steady, rock solid stack backer. He's got 1178 01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 1: really strong, key and diagnosed traits. He's super competitive. He 1179 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 1: was kind of an early down run defender and underneath 1180 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 1: his zone coverage defender. They used him as a blitzer 1181 01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 1: at times at Clemson. He doesn't quite possess the traits 1182 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,000 Speaker 1: you'd ultimately like to see, which, by the way, is 1183 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 1: the reason he's a seventh round pick. I mean, I'm 1184 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,520 Speaker 1: not knocking him. He was a seventh round pick. That's 1185 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 1: what happens. He's not a great athlete. He doesn't have 1186 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:06,520 Speaker 1: great play strength. While his inside out, sideline to sideline 1187 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,600 Speaker 1: play speed and range would be good, it's not special. 1188 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,120 Speaker 1: So all these are reasons why he's a seventh round pick. 1189 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,360 Speaker 1: I would find it hard to view him as a 1190 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,480 Speaker 1: higher level starter, you know. I guess if you had 1191 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 1: to play him, because he's super competitive and super tough 1192 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: physically and mentally, could you line him up. I'm sure 1193 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: you could. But I think when all's said and done, 1194 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 1: he's probably going to be one of your better special 1195 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,520 Speaker 1: teams players and a guy if you had to put 1196 01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,720 Speaker 1: him out there, he would understand what his assignments are 1197 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 1: and execute them. He's just not at a high enough 1198 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 1: level athletically to do that, you know, snap after snap, 1199 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 1: week after week. So what are the if you look 1200 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 1: at his abilities he is as a seventh round draft pick. 1201 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,600 Speaker 1: Give me and your knowledge about looking around the National 1202 01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 1: Football League and on all the rosters. Is he on 1203 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 1: a fifty three men at the end of the day, 1204 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 1: do you think? Well? Again, I don't watch special teams Steve, 1205 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,480 Speaker 1: but my guess is he'd be a core special teams player, 1206 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, because he's a linebacker, so he can run 1207 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean he ran a four six forty, 1208 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: which is not bad at all. So my guess is 1209 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 1: he could end up being a core special teams player. 1210 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 1: And those guys, as you know, way better than I. 1211 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 1: So I'm not you know, but those guys are very 1212 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 1: important on rosters, and I think he could be one 1213 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 1: of those guys and then be a backup linebacker. Okay, still, Greg, 1214 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,679 Speaker 1: The important thing we need to know on that card 1215 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,400 Speaker 1: who was number one? I mean, first of all, did 1216 01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 1: you like, oh I didn't do it? But did you 1217 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 1: like I didn't do it number one? Number two? I 1218 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 1: just did it as I was watching guys, you know, 1219 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 1: So like I'll give you an example, because a lot 1220 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 1: of these guys, other than seeing you know, games on Saturday, Chris, 1221 01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,439 Speaker 1: during the season itself. You know, when I'm not taking notes, 1222 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,799 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting at home zoning out watching college football. 1223 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,519 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Saturday was my only semi zone 1224 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,680 Speaker 1: out day during the season because I'd work in the 1225 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 1: mornings and then go home and Watson college football. So, like, 1226 01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,200 Speaker 1: Daxton Hill was a guy who ended up being a 1227 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 1: first round pick, and other than seeing Michigan on TV 1228 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: four or five times during the season, I didn't really 1229 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 1: know Daxton Hill. So when I put his tape on, 1230 01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,599 Speaker 1: I was, Wow, this guy. I thought he was one 1231 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,599 Speaker 1: of the better prospects in the entire draft, not just 1232 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, not just for safety slash slot corner. You 1233 01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,679 Speaker 1: want some other name. I put down George Pickens. Of course, 1234 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 1: I actually put down a guy that is that a 1235 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 1: team in your division is getting a lot of grief 1236 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 1: for ty Kwon Thornton. I thought ty Kwon Thornton was 1237 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 1: a really good prospect, and yeah, obviously the Patriots are 1238 01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 1: getting a ton of grief for that. I think it's 1239 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 1: because of where they drafted him, maybe more than anything else. 1240 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,599 Speaker 1: Fast didn't have him that high, I guess for whatever reason. Yeah, 1241 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,439 Speaker 1: and what did you think about the Patriots? This? And 1242 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 1: I know this, you know, I'm just saying Cole Strange. 1243 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,960 Speaker 1: And you know I saw some videos of their draft 1244 01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 1: room and the one guy I didn't see. So he's 1245 01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 1: the only guy in the first three rounds. Believe it 1246 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,600 Speaker 1: or not, I did not see. Seriously, believe that the 1247 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,360 Speaker 1: only I didn't see from what we from what we 1248 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 1: heard about what even people inside the pack. I mean 1249 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything. But they put out a video 1250 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: of the war room of their draft room when they 1251 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 1: drafted Cole Strange in New England. The I don't know 1252 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:25,559 Speaker 1: who the guy is, but he handed Bill Belichick the 1253 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,639 Speaker 1: phone and he looked like he was gonna puke, handing 1254 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 1: the phone to Bill Belichick to tell this kid that 1255 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 1: they drafted him in the first round. Even look at him. 1256 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:38,639 Speaker 1: I mean, he could say this. First of all. Of course, 1257 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 1: people are saying it's a terrible pick because they said 1258 01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 1: they could have gotten him in the fourth round, which 1259 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,600 Speaker 1: no one knows. Now I'm not suggesting, I don't. I 1260 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 1: never know the answer to those questions. Maybe it's true, 1261 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,760 Speaker 1: but I remember when the same thing happened, and you'll 1262 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,919 Speaker 1: remember this. The same thing happened when they drafted Logan Mankins, 1263 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,200 Speaker 1: and Logan Mankins turned out to be a pretty good player, 1264 01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 1: and no one said, you know, after three, four or 1265 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,680 Speaker 1: five years, well, gee, they could have gotten him in 1266 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,599 Speaker 1: the round, in the third round, because the guy turned 1267 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: out to be an All Pro and a ten year, 1268 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 1: really solid anchor of what was a really good all eye. 1269 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,880 Speaker 1: So again, I don't I didn't watch Cole Strange, like 1270 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 1: I said, the only guy I didn't watch of the 1271 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 1: first three rounds, So I can't speak to what kind 1272 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,519 Speaker 1: of player he is. I can tell you one offensive 1273 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 1: line coach who's been doing this for thirty years who's 1274 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,599 Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, loved Cole Strange. Loved him. Okay, 1275 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 1: well that's the thing. No matter who you draft, where 1276 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:33,200 Speaker 1: you draft them, if they're successful, you did the right thing. 1277 01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah right, nobody care. It doesn't and nobody cares. I mean, 1278 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:37,680 Speaker 1: it all comes out and the watch and if you 1279 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,080 Speaker 1: if you cut them, everybody says I was a bust. 1280 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 1: You always you know, there's always draft picks that are busting. 1281 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,800 Speaker 1: So it's really it becomes moot on both sides of 1282 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,960 Speaker 1: the issue, whether they're successful or not. It's really it's 1283 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 1: we get so wrapped up and because it's that season 1284 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,360 Speaker 1: and you think, man, and you know that some of 1285 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,120 Speaker 1: these guys are going to turn out to be fantastic players. 1286 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 1: But that's the frustrating part about it. Nobody even bothers 1287 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 1: to go back and grade these drafts back, you know, 1288 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,559 Speaker 1: years later, when you really could make a judgment call. 1289 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:09,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, let's say Cole Strange just and 1290 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 1: I know we're running short here. Let's say Cole Strange 1291 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,720 Speaker 1: becomes a really good player and becomes an All Pro. 1292 01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: You know what happens in three or four years. Every year, 1293 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 1: what happens is somebody goes back and says, let's redo 1294 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 1: the twenty and twenty two drafts, right, and then they'll 1295 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,799 Speaker 1: they'll put Cole Strange is the twentieth player in the draft. 1296 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 1: You know, so these are But again the flip side 1297 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,520 Speaker 1: is then people argue, all they don't understand the process 1298 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,519 Speaker 1: of the draft. Well, I'm not sure Bill Belichick is 1299 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,800 Speaker 1: interested in the process of the draft. I think he's 1300 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,600 Speaker 1: interested in improving his football team, right, And they have 1301 01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,679 Speaker 1: a certain way of going about that that might run, 1302 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,120 Speaker 1: might not run parallel to the way a lot of 1303 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 1: other teams do it. And I think that's why. You 1304 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 1: know what, Look, every team, you guys know this. Every 1305 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,920 Speaker 1: team has good picks and bad picks. I look back 1306 01:12:57,960 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 1: on some of my notes every once in a while 1307 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:01,559 Speaker 1: and I go, oh, my god, that's what I said 1308 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 1: about that guy. He was out of the league in 1309 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 1: three years. Everybody's right and everybody's wrong. It's still with 1310 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,599 Speaker 1: all the analytics, with all the sports science, it still 1311 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 1: comes down to human beings evaluating human beings. Well, we're 1312 01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,240 Speaker 1: glad that you evaluated all the human beings you did 1313 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 1: to get us ready for the draft and to review 1314 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 1: the Bill's draft class. There's a good chance you may 1315 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,639 Speaker 1: need a new prescription though, after all that film viewing, 1316 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,679 Speaker 1: so I think I do. I probably will. I'm gonna 1317 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 1: forge to the I actor, but I'm gonna take James 1318 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 1: Cook with me for the next number of weeks. I'm 1319 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,680 Speaker 1: telling you that, you know that was pure genius I 1320 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:39,240 Speaker 1: thought on my part. Don't you agree, guys unequivocally. That's 1321 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,840 Speaker 1: why we're not going to talk to you again until 1322 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:45,840 Speaker 1: June July. All right, enjoy yoursellmer, Greg. We'll catch up 1323 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,679 Speaker 1: with you as we get closer to the regular season. 1324 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 1: All right, guys are really enjoyed it. Thanks, all right, 1325 01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 1: take care. That's NFL Films, Greg co Sell, senior producer. 1326 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:58,559 Speaker 1: And I think he said as we got to the 1327 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,920 Speaker 1: draft last week that he looked at almost two hundred prospects. 1328 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,639 Speaker 1: And it's one thing to watch a five minute highlight 1329 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:10,920 Speaker 1: reel of a guy. This guy watches five games right 1330 01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,320 Speaker 1: of each of these prospects. And the funny thing is, 1331 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,200 Speaker 1: can you imagine how many times over he watched the 1332 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:22,479 Speaker 1: Georgia defense. Think about that, the same game over and 1333 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's looking at a different guy. But it's 1334 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,640 Speaker 1: like my eyes would fall out of my head. I 1335 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,559 Speaker 1: don't know how the scouting department does it. How do 1336 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,680 Speaker 1: you just? I would fall asleep? You have and they 1337 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,080 Speaker 1: and I and I've done that just watching film. Getting 1338 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 1: ready for the draft is a broadcast forget about being 1339 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,679 Speaker 1: a scout, right And I mean, and I know this too. 1340 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 1: It's they know more about what they're looking for and 1341 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 1: looking to see. And I had coaches like this. And 1342 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 1: when you're talking about getting ready to play a team, 1343 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,960 Speaker 1: when you go back and look at the film, you're 1344 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,639 Speaker 1: you're running you're running a playback and back and back, 1345 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,800 Speaker 1: and you're walking and you just want to slap the 1346 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: remote out of the guy's hand. And because you've watched 1347 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,479 Speaker 1: the same play fifty times already and you've only seen 1348 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 1: three seconds of it. Yeah right, So, um, it's a 1349 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 1: it's a thing, and it's it's a little bit of 1350 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 1: a science, it's a little bit of art. But it's tedious. 1351 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:20,439 Speaker 1: I mean it is. It is beyond tedious, and it's 1352 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,320 Speaker 1: got to be in your bloodstream or otherwise you you know, 1353 01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 1: you just wouldn't do it. With all the people we've 1354 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,320 Speaker 1: talked to you about the Bill's draft class, I feel 1355 01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,800 Speaker 1: this way, the sure thing is I know there's no 1356 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 1: sure things, but as close as you can get, the 1357 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 1: sure thing is Elam. The gem might be Cook, and 1358 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,400 Speaker 1: the sleeper is Shakir. I know, we graduate, we gravitate 1359 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,120 Speaker 1: to the skill position players, and Bernard might be the 1360 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:48,800 Speaker 1: most pleasant surprise. So the top four picks pretty dang good, right, 1361 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,679 Speaker 1: I don't they haven't done anything on the field yet, 1362 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, here's a sleeper. Shakir is gonna be a guy, 1363 01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 1: that is, and he's got one of those styles. When 1364 01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 1: you see him run, you know it's him immediately, you 1365 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean, He's got one of those strides 1366 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,400 Speaker 1: that you've seen other guys have where he's you know, 1367 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,639 Speaker 1: just his posture and the way he runs is going 1368 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:09,960 Speaker 1: to be really, really distinct, and you'll be able to 1369 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:15,120 Speaker 1: recognize it. I thought Greg described it perfectly. He made 1370 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 1: some catches that you didn't even think were possible. Right, Like, 1371 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,840 Speaker 1: he's spin it. He's doing a one eighty in the 1372 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 1: air like a pirouette like a dancer does, and he's 1373 01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:30,120 Speaker 1: snaring the ball with one hand with a guy on 1374 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 1: him as he's falling out of bounds, and he makes 1375 01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 1: the catch with the one hand and you know, gets 1376 01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,880 Speaker 1: the foot down. It's just he had like five of those. Yeah, 1377 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,880 Speaker 1: I was just like, who is this guy? That's the thing. 1378 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,840 Speaker 1: A slot receiver is always in traffic. He's always in 1379 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 1: tight spots, and you're always gonna have to make catches 1380 01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, think about the catches we've seen 1381 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,080 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley make over the years. You know, you're just 1382 01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,800 Speaker 1: hearing buffalo. That's what's got a bigger catch radius than him. 1383 01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,639 Speaker 1: That's what they do. The ball just when you throw 1384 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 1: it to him, it's a catch and that's you know, 1385 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:07,280 Speaker 1: as simple and as unspectacular set sounds, you never drop them. 1386 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:10,400 Speaker 1: That's hard to do. Break time for us here. When 1387 01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll get some of your thoughts on 1388 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,920 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. As we were asking you if you 1389 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 1: saw any other positions you might want to fortify on 1390 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,280 Speaker 1: Buffalo's roster. It's probably as complete roster as you're gonna 1391 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 1: find in the NFL. But if you're nitpicking a little 1392 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 1: bit and you want it to shore something up a 1393 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,160 Speaker 1: little bit more to your liking, you can let us 1394 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,040 Speaker 1: know what you think that is and we'll check some 1395 01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,320 Speaker 1: of your tweet sheet comments next here on One Bill's Live, 1396 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 1: presented by a lot of health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1397 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 1: We welcome back One Bills Live is the show. Chris Brown, 1398 01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, and we asked you on the 1399 01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,360 Speaker 1: twitter poll today, are there any remaining holes? And we're 1400 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 1: nitpicking here because this is about one of the most 1401 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:07,360 Speaker 1: complete rosters in football, any positions you feel you'd like 1402 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:11,320 Speaker 1: to see the Bills fortify before they get to the 1403 01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,799 Speaker 1: regular season in the fall, coming out of the draft. 1404 01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: So we go to the tweet sheet now, which is 1405 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,480 Speaker 1: brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment 1406 01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 1: moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and jack says, I'm 1407 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,280 Speaker 1: in favor of adding a VET at Corner on an 1408 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 1: affordable contract. Not that I think Elam and Jackson can't 1409 01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,639 Speaker 1: handle the job, but they're young, and in case Trey 1410 01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 1: isn't ready or missus time, it's nice to have another 1411 01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 1: VET in the group. I think Bryce Callahan is now 1412 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 1: healthy and could be a nice edition. Anythink about Corner, 1413 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 1: we asked We asked Brandon about that yesterday. He was 1414 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,000 Speaker 1: a little lukewarm because they don't have a lot of 1415 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,080 Speaker 1: cap space. It would have to be at the bills price, 1416 01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:58,720 Speaker 1: not the player's price. Not that anybody out in free 1417 01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,400 Speaker 1: agency really has much of a choice right now, right, 1418 01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna get a guy you can get. 1419 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 1: There's gonna be some guys available as well. And if 1420 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:10,120 Speaker 1: you look, but think about this as well, if you're 1421 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 1: gonna talk about veterans, they've already got Tim Harris is 1422 01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:18,240 Speaker 1: in the full, twenty nine year old from Virginia. He's 1423 01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,640 Speaker 1: been around for a while, although he's only got two 1424 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,639 Speaker 1: years experience, he's been around, he's bounced around. Other than that, 1425 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. You want a veteran who 1426 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,760 Speaker 1: has started games, Yeah, I'd rather How do you feel 1427 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:35,639 Speaker 1: comfortable plugging in the whole room, their whole cornerback room 1428 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:42,639 Speaker 1: aside from Kaier, the whole room are veterans in this defense, 1429 01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:47,240 Speaker 1: the whole room, Sir Rand Neil Tradevious White, Nick McCleod, 1430 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,479 Speaker 1: cam Lewis, Terren Johnson, Dane Jackson, and Elijah Griffin. All 1431 01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 1: of them have got a year under their belt in 1432 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,639 Speaker 1: this defense. That to me is a bunch of guys 1433 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,439 Speaker 1: who know what's going on out there. And you know 1434 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,439 Speaker 1: it's partic if they're the right kind of guys are 1435 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,880 Speaker 1: getting better. Tim Harris, the veteran who came over, he's 1436 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,679 Speaker 1: the only one who doesn't. I like that room pretty well. 1437 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,719 Speaker 1: And that doesn't even put those guys I mentioned, doesn't 1438 01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:18,639 Speaker 1: even include Kayer. Yeah, so I like the You're right, 1439 01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean, good players make you better, no question about it. 1440 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,080 Speaker 1: So if you can find one that supplants one of 1441 01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 1: these guys, fine, But I'm not too afraid of any 1442 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,200 Speaker 1: of the cornerback room now, particularly with Kaire in the room. 1443 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm that guy's gonna be lining up on 1444 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 1: day on week one and he's gonna be right in 1445 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:40,400 Speaker 1: the face of whoever it is. So I'm I'm okay 1446 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,960 Speaker 1: with where they're at. Certainly that you can, if you 1447 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,000 Speaker 1: can find a good player at any position, sign him 1448 01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,200 Speaker 1: because they make you better. But I don't know that 1449 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:52,080 Speaker 1: I would corner as the place I would go. Brian says, 1450 01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 1: maybe another center. Morris is susceptible to concussions and his 1451 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 1: one bad one away from a possible earlier retirement. Ryan 1452 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Bates is essentially your backup center now. He had been 1453 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,559 Speaker 1: a backup at that position. John Feliciano, though, was the 1454 01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 1: backup center for all intents and purposes, but he's in 1455 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,880 Speaker 1: New York now with the Giants, and so at least 1456 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:18,800 Speaker 1: right now, by default, Ryan Bates is probably your backup center. 1457 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 1: I believe Greg Mans free agent signing, has played some 1458 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 1: center in his career. How much I don't exactly remember 1459 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,720 Speaker 1: off the top of my head, but I believe he's 1460 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:31,760 Speaker 1: lined up there, so it would appear as though there 1461 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 1: are some options there seven years. Man's is a seven 1462 01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,000 Speaker 1: year guy as well, so he's been around. But you've 1463 01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:43,000 Speaker 1: got yeah, Bates is really the only other guy listed 1464 01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,800 Speaker 1: behind Morris and Man's as a center possibility, and he 1465 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:52,599 Speaker 1: got Roger Staffold Jacob Capra as guards as a guard 1466 01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:57,400 Speaker 1: and Ike Butcker, I mean, I suppose if you've really 1467 01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,200 Speaker 1: feel you need another center. But they like guys can 1468 01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,040 Speaker 1: play two positions, especially if they're a backup. So if 1469 01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,639 Speaker 1: Bates ends up being the starter guard, maybe that changes 1470 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,120 Speaker 1: things a little bit. It didn't. Wall Feliciano was here 1471 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,599 Speaker 1: serving as the backup center and a starting guard, so 1472 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:16,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if that'll change. Christopher on the tweet 1473 01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 1: sheet says, with a fairly complete roster, i'd say interior 1474 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,840 Speaker 1: old lineman is the remaining spot where depth is needed, 1475 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,639 Speaker 1: not necessarily holes to be filled. It's gonna be interesting, Steve, 1476 01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,559 Speaker 1: because they drafted Luke Tanuda late in the draft. He's tall. 1477 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,559 Speaker 1: He's not long in the arms, but he's tall and 1478 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,200 Speaker 1: almost at six eight, he's too tall to play guard, 1479 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,240 Speaker 1: so you would assume he's a swing tackle type. That's 1480 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,240 Speaker 1: how Brandon being described him. So he'll probably compete with 1481 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,640 Speaker 1: Tommy Doyle. Be interesting to see if one of the 1482 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:51,479 Speaker 1: undrafted signings is an interior alignment, you know what I mean, 1483 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,800 Speaker 1: Not that they're necessarily a lock to make this right 1484 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,080 Speaker 1: kind of doubt it because they got Kesson Berry as well. 1485 01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,760 Speaker 1: They do have Kessonberry. They can play guard. I mean 1486 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 1: he can play guard despite his height. But yeah, eight, 1487 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 1: you say, despite his height, you got Manuda, Tanda Brown, Doyle, 1488 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,800 Speaker 1: and Kesson Berry. All of them are six seven plus. Yeah. 1489 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,680 Speaker 1: The trees, man, it's the trees. It is. They're huge, 1490 01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,840 Speaker 1: all these guys. Eric Romer Kromer said he's never coached 1491 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:26,800 Speaker 1: a six eight guy before this year. Now he's got 1492 01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:33,280 Speaker 1: three of them. Seriously, No, I know, I don't know 1493 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,720 Speaker 1: what what difference it makes coaching six eighth guy. Maybe 1494 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,640 Speaker 1: they do teach things a little differently. You got a 1495 01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,040 Speaker 1: more hit, more knee bend. I don't know, different sets. 1496 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. But man, oh man, he has never 1497 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,080 Speaker 1: coached one night he's got three of them. Yeah, I 1498 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,640 Speaker 1: would imagine most of those guys will line up at 1499 01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,519 Speaker 1: the tackle spot. But Kesson Berry has played guard before, 1500 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,599 Speaker 1: so I think he might only be six five six six. 1501 01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,320 Speaker 1: I say, only listen. I saw him out at practice today. 1502 01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 1: He's a tree. He's a big He's a big un Uh. 1503 01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,240 Speaker 1: Andrew on the tweet sheet says, I think they're good. 1504 01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean there's always room for improvement. But what they 1505 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 1: have in place right now, they're set. Yeah, we had 1506 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,840 Speaker 1: Brandon and he said, we got eighty four guys. We 1507 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,000 Speaker 1: got you know, six spots. We can play around with 1508 01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:21,600 Speaker 1: you six guys. He was anticipating signing nine undrafted to 1509 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,840 Speaker 1: make it eighty four. It isn't eighty four. It will 1510 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:34,559 Speaker 1: be what they's They are set. Um, you could start 1511 01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 1: training camp anytime. They're ready to go. I mean that, Uh, 1512 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:42,360 Speaker 1: it's hard. And I'll say I can't overstate the fact 1513 01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,599 Speaker 1: that when they drafted Kayer Elam and I started getting 1514 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,120 Speaker 1: to know who he was, I was like, Wow, that's 1515 01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,400 Speaker 1: they're good to go. I got a lot of confidence 1516 01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,280 Speaker 1: in him. He's has profiled on what we've heard from 1517 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,280 Speaker 1: him and seen from him really gives me a lot 1518 01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 1: of confidence that he's And I know they're like you said, 1519 01:24:57,760 --> 01:24:59,600 Speaker 1: they're no sure thing, but man, old man, what a 1520 01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:04,320 Speaker 1: safe pick he has been. You know, Um, he's like 1521 01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:10,760 Speaker 1: Tredavious White. So I'm and then there's just no other 1522 01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,240 Speaker 1: needs that are really glaring. I mean, people forget they 1523 01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,439 Speaker 1: signed Roger Saffold and Keson Berry and that plus the 1524 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,679 Speaker 1: guy five guys that finished the season last year starting 1525 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:25,120 Speaker 1: so um, yeah, you got really gotta you gotta sit 1526 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:26,840 Speaker 1: here and scratch your head and say, okay, where else 1527 01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,320 Speaker 1: can we do this? You know where else can we 1528 01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,800 Speaker 1: add some depth? O? J? Howard Good and grief. I 1529 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,439 Speaker 1: got a tight end coming back with Tommy Doyle and Knox, 1530 01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie, Jamison Crowder, Khalil Shakier, Gabe Davis, Hodgens, Stevenson, 1531 01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:58,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Steph Diggs, yea, Mark Quez Stevenson, Um, I 1532 01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:00,680 Speaker 1: don't see yeah, what are you gonna go? T I mean, 1533 01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,559 Speaker 1: let's go, let's let's sift it out and let's go. Yeah. 1534 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 1: RJ says. The only hole I can think of would 1535 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,280 Speaker 1: be Poyer's contract signed him up for four years, thirty 1536 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,280 Speaker 1: to thirty five million. Hopefully it gets done once all 1537 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:12,800 Speaker 1: the cuts are made. Other than that, I'd say a 1538 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,679 Speaker 1: veteran corner would be nice. Joe Hayden or a J. Boyer. 1539 01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,280 Speaker 1: If the Poyer contract doesn't happen, get a big vet 1540 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:19,800 Speaker 1: old line him go well, I got news for you 1541 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,000 Speaker 1: four years for thirty five million. That's an insult right now, 1542 01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:24,880 Speaker 1: because there would be less than he's getting right now. 1543 01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,120 Speaker 1: Right his average annual salary is nine and three quarters. 1544 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,120 Speaker 1: You want to pay him less than nine on the 1545 01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:36,679 Speaker 1: high end. That's hence the problem that they just signed 1546 01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:43,080 Speaker 1: a last I washed up. Tyron Matthew just signed an 1547 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,559 Speaker 1: eleven million dollars a year deal in eight and eighteen 1548 01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:50,280 Speaker 1: of it's guaranteed. And he's two years younger than Jordan Poyer, Right, 1549 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,759 Speaker 1: he's two years younger. So you're gonna give Jordan Poyer 1550 01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:59,479 Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew money. Now, I don't think so. I don't 1551 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,040 Speaker 1: think so. I mean he's making they just he just 1552 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,320 Speaker 1: signed the deal like a year and a half ago. 1553 01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,719 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, and what changed, well is I don't 1554 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,760 Speaker 1: think his play changed, but I'll say what the recognition 1555 01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,280 Speaker 1: he got certainly did first team All Pro. He was 1556 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,439 Speaker 1: probably like, hey, and we've we've been saying it on 1557 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,400 Speaker 1: this show, and everybody in Bills and you know, Bill's 1558 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,360 Speaker 1: mafia been saying anything. Poyr and Hide have been playing 1559 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,400 Speaker 1: at all pro level for three years now, three or 1560 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:30,360 Speaker 1: four years. It's just they've been Yeah, now somebody noticed, um, 1561 01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,320 Speaker 1: and that's what's changed. We have to take a break here, 1562 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:36,240 Speaker 1: Steve and I one more segment to go. We'll have 1563 01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:38,120 Speaker 1: it for you next here on one Bill's Live. Stay 1564 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:54,719 Speaker 1: tuned all right. Before we go, we wanted to share 1565 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,200 Speaker 1: with you that the official dates for the Bills Rookie Minicamp, 1566 01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:02,479 Speaker 1: Ota practice is and Mandatory Mini camp have been released. 1567 01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 1: They are as follows. Rookie Mini Caamp May thirteenth to 1568 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,759 Speaker 1: fourteenth used to be the week the weekend after the draft, 1569 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:13,720 Speaker 1: but the Bills in the last few years have moved 1570 01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,600 Speaker 1: it back in additional week because that enables them to 1571 01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,360 Speaker 1: keep some of the players in town for OTAs where 1572 01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,880 Speaker 1: they don't have to flying flying back home, flying back 1573 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:27,479 Speaker 1: up here. OTAs begin May twenty third and twenty fourth, 1574 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,000 Speaker 1: and then they will have another day on May twenty sixth. 1575 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,759 Speaker 1: Second week of OTAs May thirty first to June second, 1576 01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,960 Speaker 1: and then June sixth and seventh, and then June ninth 1577 01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:42,799 Speaker 1: and tenth. Mandatory Mini Caamp June fourteenth to the sixteenth, 1578 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:46,080 Speaker 1: And that is your offseason schedule. Before we all head 1579 01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 1: down the throu Way to Saint John Fisher, boom, diggitty, 1580 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,320 Speaker 1: it's about time we got back to training camp. That's 1581 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 1: just gonna be so nice. It kind of is. It's 1582 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,439 Speaker 1: gonna be a regular training camp. You can watch the 1583 01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,200 Speaker 1: practices it's just and I know it's gonna be it's 1584 01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,320 Speaker 1: gonna happen like in two hours, but it seems like 1585 01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:07,639 Speaker 1: it's light years away. It's like months away. It is. Well, 1586 01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 1: I'm I got a lot of vacation time. I'm all 1587 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,559 Speaker 1: for enjoying my summer first, right, don't get me wrong. 1588 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 1: Let's take some time off. Then once you get past 1589 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,439 Speaker 1: the draft, you kind of exhale a little bit. Yeah, 1590 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:20,040 Speaker 1: but we will talk more draft tomorrow. We're gonna took 1591 01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,240 Speaker 1: a look at the rest of the AFC East. We'll 1592 01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 1: have Eric Allen from New York Jets dot Com helping us. 1593 01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:25,479 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow at Want