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Speaker 1: Golf Club. Obviously the story of the day was Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 1: We gotta start there. What were your impressions of his

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Speaker 1: play and can he keeped up this not not the

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Speaker 1: But nevertheless, like that looked like a tired swing. So

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