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Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. And it's a big

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Speaker 1: day today. We have another former LA City councilman going

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Speaker 1: thirteen years in prison. He had a bribery machine gone

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Speaker 1: like nobody's business. He was the councilman for the downtown

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Speaker 1: get that done you had to go through Weezar, and

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Speaker 1: In a moment, he pleaded guilty to racketeering tax evasion charges.

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Speaker 1: And this is what he told the judge. Shiny things

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Speaker 1: Shiny things. Well, it was a million and a half

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Speaker 1: dollars in cash, bribes, million and a half from multiple developers,

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Speaker 1: pay him the bribes or you didn't get your building built.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the prosecutor said, if anyone dared refuse his

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Speaker 1: four hundred and forty thousand dollars in restitution to the city,

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Speaker 1: thirty nine thousand dollars to the irs. This, this whole

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Speaker 1: scheme was uncovered beginning nine years ago. In twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 1: inside a Las Vegas casino, and he and many others

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Speaker 1: in city hall. City Hall under Garcetti, and it may

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Speaker 1: be suspicious of almost all the development in LA because

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Speaker 1: council's Planning and land Use Management Committee. So any kind

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Speaker 1: of large scale development project in Los Angeles had to

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Speaker 1: run through Wezar. That's how he ended up with a

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Speaker 1: they do now. Remember Mitch england Or he pleaded guilty

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Speaker 1: and he got hookers too. He represented the valley. I

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Speaker 1: sat next to that guy. Who here's another one. George Esparza,

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Speaker 1: a former Jose Wezar aid he would he would carry

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Speaker 1: to prison. Another developer, a former lobbyist, a land use consultant,

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Speaker 1: He's facing bribery charges, racketeering, wire fraud. Last year, his

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Speaker 1: Wei Wong. He helped Weezar get six hundred dollars to

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Speaker 1: pay off an aid who accused him of sexual harassment. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. And weiz Are was running like

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Speaker 1: a vast criminal enterprise lobbyists, real estate consultants and others,

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Speaker 1: the board of the LA Unified School District. And so

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Speaker 1: the former school board president, Monica Garcia, called weez Are,

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Speaker 1: a trailblazing board member who built scores of new campuses.

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Speaker 1: Oh gee, did you have to pay him to get

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Speaker 1: just started as a counselman starting to take bribes. Never

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Speaker 1: Another Oh then he Weezar got his mother, Zidra, saying

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Speaker 1: at great cost. That's a million and a half dollar profit. Oh,

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Speaker 1: This was not true only for Weezar, but almost certainly

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Speaker 1: See it's not extortion, right, I mean this is extortion.

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Speaker 1: complete rubbish. It's shameful to equate these crimes with anything

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Speaker 1: So Grecordy actually is outraged that people think the city

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Speaker 1: council takes bribes. Really, of course a lot of politicians

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Speaker 1: of course they do. Maybe Paul Grecorian doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Just one more thing about about Jose Weezar, the LA

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Speaker 1: for bribery because he had developers pay him a million

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Speaker 1: he got the grand package, he got the VIP package

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Speaker 1: for his bribery and extortion the LA Times. This is

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Speaker 1: the list of bribery charges in the last segment and

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Speaker 1: I served on the school board during a period of

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Speaker 1: rising student scores. Oh yeah, it was because of him.

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Speaker 1: But this is the el Segunder Times here. Oh, listen

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Speaker 1: Weezar's urban planning idea. You give me one hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: his urban planning. Yeah, he did a lot of studying

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he taught many of them how to get

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Speaker 1: that ten city council members at the time endorsed wees Are,

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Speaker 1: city council members are pure as the driven snow? Of course,

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Speaker 1: the La Times endorsed him. We believe Jose Weezar. Well,

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Speaker 1: work most effectively in the modern political culture of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: We believe Jose Wezar is that candidate. And I guess

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Speaker 1: they're right in a way, because the modern political culture

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Speaker 1: of Los Angeles is nothing but corruption, nothing about developers

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Speaker 1: building office towers and residential buildings, and the councilman gets

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Speaker 1: big money and hookers. That's uh, that's our modern political culture.

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Speaker 1: All right, we come back. Oh yeah, yeah, this story.

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Speaker 1: Do you hear about this Newport Beach doctor. His name

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Speaker 1: is doctor William Thompson. The fourth maybe the first three

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Speaker 1: Last year he was accused of abusing nine patients. Well

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Speaker 1: now seventy three more are accusing Thompson of abusing them too.

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Speaker 1: This is a seven hundred and thirty page lawsuit said

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Speaker 1: he was abusing people from twenty eleven until twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: And this was going on at Hogue Hospital and I

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Speaker 1: imagine at his private medical offices, yes, and at his home.

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Speaker 1: Ah yeah, yeah, he had patients coming to his house

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Speaker 1: for invasive medical tests. And we're going to have Morgan

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Speaker 1: Stuart from Manly Stuart and Finaldi. They're representing the seventy

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Speaker 4: That's precisely the point. I think there were redflex I

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Speaker 1: So he's being sued. Is Hoge being sued as well?

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Speaker 1: Boy, they're not going to want all this stuff. Well,

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Speaker 1: it already is on the record if you read the complaint.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So has Hog Hospital had a response to this?

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Speaker 4: Was doing prostate exams on twenty five year olds repeatedly

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Speaker 1: And I guess people the average person just doesn't know that.

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Speaker 4: He told him it was not medically necessary, told him

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Speaker 1: He's fifty six years old. I mean he's been around

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Speaker 4: Thirty five years, multitudes of hundreds of victims ultimately unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. There are some weird perverts in the

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Speaker 1: Everybody's afraid, Oh you got to just make a phone call.

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Speaker 4: A few days ago.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's just.

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Speaker 4: Not making the phone call makes you liable, whereas making

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Speaker 4: Logically, it makes no sense to the boat eye. As

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Speaker 1: No, it's not. I don't know why I keep hoping

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Speaker 1: I hope you didn't go to him. But he was

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Speaker 1: Now, a candidate running to replace gascon as La County

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Speaker 1: District Attorney. If you watch the debate, you may remember

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Speaker 1: after the two o'clock news with Debur here on KFI.

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Speaker 1: You guys want to play Debur. You want to play

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Speaker 5: I'd love to play a game you played.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you remember years ago, Tim Conway used to

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Speaker 1: I did that. It was a very funny game. Well,

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Speaker 1: this will be if he doesn't mind us is stealing

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Speaker 1: the premise. What the hell did Joe Biden say? He

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Speaker 6: Beer here. It is used to make the crew beard

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Speaker 7: I wonder what, Uh, well, I I heard beer brewing here.

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Speaker 6: Beer brewed here, it is used to make the brew

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a little rusty, a little ross.

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Speaker 5: Got the gist of it. Trying to be nice here.

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Speaker 5: There's beer brewing here.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear it one more time because I looked up

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Speaker 6: Beer brewed here, it is used to make the brew

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Speaker 1: Earth Writer, thanks for the great lakes. I wonder why,

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Speaker 1: And now the crowd is laughing and what are they

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Speaker 1: it it's uncomfortable. Uncomfortable. I'm thinking, well they cleaned that

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Speaker 1: it again. Uh. And by the way, it used to

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Speaker 1: make the beer brood here. It used to make the

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Speaker 1: brood beer here in this refine, Oh earth writer, thanks

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Speaker 1: for the great lakes. I wondered why inaudible.

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Speaker 3: All right, play it again, beer bod here, it is

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Speaker 3: used to make the brew beer fine, Oh Earth writer,

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Speaker 3: thanks for the great lakes.

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Speaker 1: So what they do in the transcript is the other

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Speaker 1: put in the word inaudible, or they have dashes like

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Speaker 1: whether they because they can't figure out what's going going on.

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Speaker 1: But what they ought to write is, you know, Biden

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Speaker 1: has a dementia attack, unable to continue, not making any sense.

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Speaker 1: Later on, he says, look, fourteen million new jobs since

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Speaker 1: I became president, and they applaud, Yeah, he created fourteen

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Speaker 1: million jobs, one hundred and sixty nine new jobs in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: And they put the word thousands in parentheses. He skipped

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Speaker 1: over that, so he was claiming one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: nine new jobs one hundred sixty nine thousand, and at

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Speaker 1: one point he says, my professor, Well, I won't get

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Speaker 1: into my professor, and everybody laughs. But what he meant

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Speaker 1: to say was predecessor. But twice he called Trump professor,

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Speaker 1: and the fact is, well, I won't get into it,

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Speaker 1: but I don't want to get going, and they laughed

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Speaker 1: at that as well. Now on the other side, came

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Speaker 1: out that Trump passed to pay Egene Carroll. She was

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Speaker 1: a magazine writer among other things in New York City.

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Speaker 1: He's got to pay her eighty three million dollars in

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Speaker 1: this defamation case. He lost a lawsuit by Egene Carroll

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Speaker 1: some months back, and it was she claimed that he

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Speaker 1: each other. And then she sued him for defamation because

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Speaker 1: then he did. He lost that and he was told

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Speaker 1: to stop, and he kept claiming that she was lying,

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Speaker 1: so she sued him again, and now the jury we

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Speaker 1: went nuts eighty three million dollars in compensatory impunitive damages.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's the big story of the hour. So

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Speaker 1: you have you have Biden on the one hand, who

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Speaker 1: was speaking in gibberish and it was almost like a

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Speaker 1: foreign language. Trump on the other hand, just another day,

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Speaker 1: eighty three million dollars in damages over a sexual assault

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Speaker 1: case from nineteen ninety five. This is the choice. This

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Speaker 1: is really going to hold for the next for the

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Speaker 1: next nine and a half months. This really is it?

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Speaker 1: Huh ih? This huge crowd in New York, lots of

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Speaker 1: cameras Egene Carroll is coming out of this is a

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Speaker 1: live shot. Is he came out of the courtroom and

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Speaker 1: is trying to get into an suv waiting for her,

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Speaker 1: And there's just a tremendous push of press and the

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Speaker 1: a mob scene. I guess word spread pretty quickly that

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Speaker 1: he just got hit with an eighty three million dollar bill.

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Speaker 5: Are we going to hear from him?

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Speaker 1: He he stormed out, he was giving a statement. I

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Speaker 1: think he lasted. See he was giving a statement, and

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Speaker 1: and then and then there was another day of the case,

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Speaker 1: and it was it was there three minutes. That was yesterday, yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Right today. He also left and came back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he he at times has gone to an

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Speaker 1: extreme saying that I don't know this woman. I never

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Speaker 1: met her, even though there's evidence that they did meet.

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Speaker 1: She had she had a detailed story about whatever happened

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Speaker 1: in the dressing room. I'm not going to get into

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Speaker 1: the sexual act, but apparently there's some kind of penetration.

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Speaker 1: I had enough after the life, I know.

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Speaker 5: Right, let's let's go easy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is just, this is just, this is

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Speaker 1: a disgusting world. What you mean did I say that?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: You did? You can't utter an opinion.

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Speaker 5: Well, we're talking about men.

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Speaker 7: We're not talking about women right now, right? That is correct, Okay,

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Speaker 7: but that sounds there was no opinion. That sounded like

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Speaker 7: a sweeping indictment. There, just those two words, you men,

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Speaker 7: sounded like we're all included. Uh, all right, So coming

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Speaker 7: up after two o'clock, we're going to be talking to

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Speaker 7: one of the judges who is running against was running

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Speaker 7: against George Gascon for District Attorney's name is David Milton,

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Speaker 7: and we will talk to him next. Candidate for La

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Speaker 7: County District Attorney, Depa Bark, live in the KFI twenty

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Speaker 7: four hour Newsroom.

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