WEBVTT - CHAPTER SEVEN: The Other Missing Boy 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:02.640 Hey there, I want to give you a heads up 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:06.240 that this episode may be upsetting for some listeners. Another gruesome, 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:07.160 murderous part of this. 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:13.560 Family story previously on Hello John Doe. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:17.919 I just wanted the answers who was Sharon Marshall? The 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:21.080 DNA match both the father and the mother, and it 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.840 came back as a confirmation that the girl who was 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.240 killed in Oklahoma City was Suzanne Sevakas. 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:32.640 I just completely burned down, completely burned down. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.760 I sometimes have this feeling that's hard to explain, but 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:43.880 I'm gonna try. It's almost like there's a thin veil 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.839 between life and death, and sometimes I can see right 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.360 through it. It's part of why I got into this 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.640 business of trying to find the names of John Doe's. 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:55.520 The dead don't feel that far away from me. They're 0:00:55.520 --> 0:01:00.800 close by. My brother and sister died so after being born, 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.200 they're still with me. And so were the two missing 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.880 boys I became obsessed with back in two thousand and four. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.120 At that point, I was thirty four, raising two boys 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.280 alone and working on the Dough Network. Some days my 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:17.240 mind would wander and I'd find myself thinking about the 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:21.200 two missing boys. All things considered, I guess the six 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.920 year old was alive and the infant was dead, just 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:27.160 because it's hard to keep an infant alive. But eventually 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.680 the infant, Steve Patterson called me. I don't even know 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.120 how I got your remember he picked up the phone. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.959 I mean it was just one in a billion. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.759 I guess, But the six year old Michael never did. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.839 His mama was Susie Sevegas and he went by Michael Hughes. 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.760 When I think of that thin veil between life and death, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.360 I'm not sure which side he's on. He was in 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.040 first grade when he vanished. News cruise taught to some 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:59.000 of his classmates. He was in a class that I fell. 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.480 He's not there anymore. Now he's not where is he? 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.160 So may chook them. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.919 Sometimes I look at Michael's Doone Network page. He has 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:11.880 this big toothy grin with missing teeth. Makes me think 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:19.240 of my own sons and then my grandsons. Other days 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:21.880 I google stories of men trying to find their parents, 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.519 or look through John Doe's And then there are days 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:29.880 that I wake up and think he's gone. I'm going 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.000 to tell you what happened to him. Then you can 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:37.360 decipher yourself which side of the bell he's on. My 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:39.880 name is Todd Matthews and this is Hello John Doe. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.720 A sleuth, a family, and a serial killer. The story 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.280 of a family torn apart by tragedy and my quest 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:55.080 to bring them back together. Chapter seven, The Other Missing Boy. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:59.680 After Susie died, Floyd went to prison. Officials had finally 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.919 figured out had been a fugitive on the run since 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:06.240 nineteen seventy three. So their child, Michael, ended up in 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.280 foster care. He was a sweet toddler of brown hair 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.800 and brown eyes, scaring his forehead, and two little crooked 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:13.440 bottom teeth. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:17.919 So Michael was in the custody of two of the 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.320 nicest people walk in the face of the your Marlin, 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:20.880 Earnest beIN. 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.440 That's former FBI agent Scott Lobb. He was tasked with 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.959 figuring out what happened to Michael after his mama died. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.560 The Beans were an Oklahoma couple. Here they are in 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.120 a local program talking about how they started fostering kids. 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.960 We were at church and they had these two adorable 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.160 little boys, and one day was talking to him and 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:45.040 they said, oh, they're foster children. And we had no 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:49.160 idea what foster children was all about. They told us 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:52.000 that it was to the Department of Human Services and 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.840 that you just take kids in and love them like 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.119 you do your own, and I thought we can do that. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.240 The Beans were gone to foster eighty children, if you 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:04.240 can believe it, including young Michael Hughes. They took him 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.720 in May one, nineteen ninety. He had just celebrated his 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:12.160 second birthday. Apparently, a caseworker told the Beans he still 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.560 drank out of a bottle and only drank pepsi. He 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:20.119 seemed to have some developmental delays and sometimes through epic tantrums. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.440 For a two year old, Michael had already had it tough, 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.080 but the Beans gave him all the love they could. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:28.840 Over the next four years, Michael started to come into 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.680 his own, growing physically and emotionally. This story has so 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.880 many examples of chosen family. This is one. The Beans 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.840 chose Michael as their family, and he chose them too. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.159 But throughout those four years, Franklin Ployce still got to 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.880 see Michael, even though he was now in prison. The 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.239 Beans had to bring Michael to the el Renal Federal 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:53.760 Correctional Institute. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.160 Floyd would get I don't know, an hour or two 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:56.560 with them. 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.640 The Beans said Michael hated every minute of it. He 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.800 go hide and talk about that mean man. But in 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.560 nineteen ninety three, floyd sentence was up, he was a 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.320 free man and he wanted to pick up where he 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.800 left on. By then, Michael is in kindergarten. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.480 When he gets out of prison, he starts trying to 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.919 regain custody in Michael through the court system and through public, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:22.400 through media, and he's being turned down at every point. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.400 Floyd was persistent though he wanted Michael. 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:31.960 Finally, somebody got wise and requested that essentially a DNA 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.960 test be done and it turns out Floyd's not the father, 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.799 and so immediately the Bean family filed for adoption. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:43.359 The DNA test results effectively stop Michael's visits with Floyd, 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.680 which apparently got under Floyd's skin. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.520 Floyd knew from his interactions with Michael in the prison 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.719 setting that he had a real love for the Bean family. 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.480 He couldn't handle this. To him, Michael was his. 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.200 The Beans knew something us up. Merlebane even said she 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.520 saw Floyd looking around their house and a pickup truck. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:08.120 So they acted swiftly, trying to file for adoption as 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:12.160 quickly as possible, but right before the adoption was finalized 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:21.080 in nineteen ninety four, Floyd did something drastic awful. On 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.240 September twelfth, nineteen ninety four, Michael Hughes went into his 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.440 first grade classroom in Indian Meridian Elementary School the way 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.680 he did every day. He wore black high top sneakers, 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:34.160 wore red and blue shorts. He carried in a Laddin backpack. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.560 While Michael was in school, Floyd left his halfway house 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:41.200 in Oklahoma City wearing a wrinkled suit. He had a gun. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.640 He showed up at the front desk of Indian Meridian 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:49.040 Elementary School. This is what he said, according to news reports, 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:50.960 think I had better tea. I got a gun in 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:55.120 my pocket and I better show it to you. I'm 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.159 ready to die and if you don't help me, you 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:02.159 won't live. Took Michael out of his classroom and he 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:05.920 took Principal James Davis too. He forced them both into 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:10.200 the principal's pickup truck and made him drive into the woods. There, 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.840 he tied the principal to a tree. Then he got 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:16.520 back into the pickup truck with Michael and drove away. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:27.559 It was the last time anyone saw Michael, not knowing 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:31.920 what happened to him, destroyed the Bean family. Michael, who 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.000 we were in the process of getting the papers and everything, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.840 was kidnapped, and after that we said no more foster kids. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.640 There was a nationwide search. The Beans tapped, the newspapers 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:47.280 got on TV. They pleaded keep an eye out for Michael. Franklin. Floyd, 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.800 claiming to be the boy's father, abducted him, even tied 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:54.520 up the school's principal in the woods nearby. Michael Hughes 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:59.640 still hasn't been seen since after the kidnap him Floyd 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.920 Brown on one more time. A few months later, Floyd, 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.680 then fifty one years old, moved to Louisville and got 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.760 a job as a used car salesman. His neighbors observed 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.360 some weird details. He wore second hand clothing and wanted 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:15.160 to stay up all night. One neighbor said he always 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.200 wanted to come over and watch the fugitive on TV. 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.640 On his second day at the dealership, couriers delivering an 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.960 express mail package to Floyd, except they were really undercover agents. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:28.720 Mark Anci remembers at the time he was an assistant 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.040 US attorney in the Western District of Oklahoma. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:37.520 Floyd had applied for a license under one of his aliases, 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:42.920 and he had applied in Kentucky. So that's how we 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.600 were able to locate him in Kentucky. He had slipped 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.200 up by trying to get an id under one of 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:49.360 his old aliases. 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.719 They arrested him in charge him with the kidnapping of 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.280 both Michael and his principal. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:59.960 The trial actually started in April of nineteen ninety five, 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.720 about ten days before the Oaklhom City bombing, which actually 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.960 occurred right across the street from the courthouse where we 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:08.360 tried Franklin Floyd. 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.160 Mark Anty was one of the prosecutors on the case. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:17.640 And the trial became a little interesting because Franklin Floyd 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.840 decided to waive his right to a jury trial. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.520 Mark Skiz Floyd might have figured a Jerry might not 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.360 be so friendly to him, especially because no one knew 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:29.200 or Michael was. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.720 There was another interesting twist to the case. In addition 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:37.160 to him waving his right to a jury trial, he 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.120 really wanted to represent himself. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.360 This was unconventional, kind of bizarre. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.880 Judge Alie actually been over backwards to assist Franklin Floyd. 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.000 You typically can't have a lawyer and argue the case yourself. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.640 It's one of the other. It's called hybrid representation. Judge 0:09:56.679 --> 0:10:02.240 Alli allowed some form of hybrid representation to placate Franklin Floyd. 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:08.080 One of Franklin Floyd's key defenses is, I can't be guilty. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.360 I am the father of Michael Hughes. So we put 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:16.520 on DNA evidence to disprove that he was the biological 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:21.199 father of Michael Hughes. And of course he countered by 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.880 suggesting that he was sort of the de facto father 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:24.880 or grandfather. 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.800 You heard that right. He was simultaneously arguing that he 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.800 was both the father and grandfather Michael, which wasn't true. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:37.119 But Mark and the other prosecutor did call Michael's real father. 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:41.880 To testify, Greg Higgs, who was actually Michael's biological father, 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:46.760 very normal, married and had his own children and knew 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:51.720 nothing about Michael. He did not know that he was 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:56.800 Michael's father, and had noted to us that if he 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.959 would have known that there was this whole custody spew 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:04.360 dude and that Sharon had died, he would have gladly 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:06.559 adopted Michael Wess his own. 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.000 Sorry, my god. His real father would have taken him 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:17.920 in had he known the trial didn't last longer than 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.079 a week. Trial's go much quicker and you don't have 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.520 a jury. After twenty years of running from similar crimes, 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.920 Floyd couldn't run anymore. He was finally locked up on 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.640 federal charges and sentenced to fifty two years for the 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.880 kidnappings and other related crimes. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.160 There's no parole in the federal system, so when you 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:39.520 get a fifty year plus sentence, it's effectively life without parole. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.800 Franklin Floyd may have been caught partaking Michael and principal 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.520 James Davis, but authorities still wanted to know where the 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.680 boy was. By the early twenty tens, it was a 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.440 cold case and the National Center for Missing and Exploited 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.520 Children was doing a cold case review, so they asked 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:58.880 Agent Scott Lobbed to reopen the case. That's how he, 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.240 an agent, ended up interview in Franklin Floyd. He was 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.559 trying to jumpstart the case for the National Center for 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.120 Missing and Exploited Children. Moving it forward meant finding out 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.120 who Sharon Marshall was and what happened to her. It 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:12.760 also meant figuring out what happened to. 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.439 Michael and at the time of Michael's disappearance, they had 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:19.640 local police involved in the matter, but at the time 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.240 it was still not known that Franklin Floyd had taken 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.720 him across state lines, and that is an element that 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.400 is necessary for a prosecution of kidnapping at the federal level. 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:32.520 A Sena's agent Lobbin first started asking Floyd flipped out, 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:34.400 started rambling. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.920 We're FBI agents. We're here to talk to you about 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:41.920 Michael Hughes. And I said, I've reopened the investigation. And 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:43.439 he looked at me and says, what, I appreciate it 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:44.160 if you close it? 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:48.240 Oh, hell No. Seems to me that Floyd thought if 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:51.360 he asked very nicely, the FBI could close their cold 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:55.240 case investigation into a missing kid. They just didn't bat any. 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.679 They took Floyd back to the day kidnapped Michael from 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.959 Indian Meridian Elementaries. After leaving Principal Davis tied up in 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.280 the woods. Where did he take Michael? He said, they 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.400 drove along Interstate thirty five outside of Oklahoma City. 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:14.839 And we had walked him down Interstate thirty five and 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.600 Floyd said, we ended up in Dallas. We want to 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.080 know what happened between Oklahoma City and Dallas. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.280 Now he had admitted to crossing state lines. But what 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.080 he's about to ment to next, it's really hard to 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.880 listen to. Floyd and Michael were in the pickup truck together. 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:37.360 According to Floyd, Michael was asking about the beans, how 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.880 he wanted to go back and see Mama Bean, and 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.480 he was just acting up on the drive down there, 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:44.840 and Floyd said he got to the point where he 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.320 knew he could never be with Michael again. He knew 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.200 every law enforcement official in the state of Oklahoma was 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:51.280 searching for him. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.160 Think about all the witnesses at the elementary school. Plus 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.680 it was now publicly known that Floyd wasn't Michael's father. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.920 He couldn't pass Michael off his he is the way 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.760 he did Susie. On the way out of town, Floyd 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.079 said he stopped to get a few things. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:08.280 Well, I stopped at a convenience store in Dell City, 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:12.480 which is a suburban Oklahoma City, and bought him, you know, 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:14.920 some some drinks and some knickknacks. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.680 He called them agents for and lawber. Following Floyd's pie, 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.520 as he described what happened. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.160 You passed the crossroads mall, he goes well, that's that's 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.680 where I handed Michael off. No you did in Floyd. 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.800 At this point, we're just not even putting up with that, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.600 and we say he didn't he took him. And Nate 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.840 jumps in at this point said, you know, we have 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.640 the starting point, we have the any point. We want 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:40.760 to know what happened in the middle. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.320 Floyd seemed like he was ready to answer. He asked 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:45.760 for a pencil and a piece of paper. 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:51.200 He draws a map and it's Interseate thirty five. We 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.360 walk him down that road? What did you do? And 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.280 then Floyd goes you know, he just goes on forever, 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.640 talking about how they stopped. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.240 They both got out of the car in a brushy, 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:04.320 secluded area off the side of the road. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:10.680 They pray, they talk, they pray some more, and he's crying. 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:15.680 It's all crocodile tears, but he's crying, he's moaning, and 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.880 I at this point I knew he had him. I 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:24.440 slammed my hand down on the tabletop and said how 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.640 did you kill him? And he startled him. He said, 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.000 don't you do that in reference to me slapped my 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.280 hand on the table. I'm asking how'd you kill him? 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.760 Nate's asking him, why did you kill him? Now, I'm 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.680 just repeating myself, And he's looking off to his right, 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:42.080 crying and so forth. And he finally turned and looked 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:46.320 at me. Tears are gone, and he says, I shot 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:47.760 him twice in the back of the head to make 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:48.400 it real quick. 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.560 After years of deception, Floyd finally told the truth. It 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.480 was worse than I ever imagined to waste. He could 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.520 have just let the Beans raise Michael. His real father, 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.560 Greg was even willing to raise him. Agent Lob has 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:09.440 a theory on why Floyd would kill Michael. 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.320 This is what I think, this is what Floyd said. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.640 But in his selfish mind, he said, well I can't 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.520 have him. Nobody's going to have him, and he killed him. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:18.920 Very heartbreaking. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.560 For allmost two decades, no one had known what happened 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.880 to Michael, not the Bean family, not Sandy and her kids. 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.840 Now Franklin Floyd finally gave them an answer. There's a 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.280 comfort in having a resolution after so many years of 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.680 searching for clues, and yet there was no sense of 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:36.680 comfort at the end of this. 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.640 You know, a little kid lost his life, So it 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.760 wasn't really it wasn't a high five moment. You know 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:47.120 it just it was. We got the answers. 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.480 The next step was getting photographs of the region to 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.560 try to figure out where the murder had happened. These 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:55.520 clues might help them find Michael's body. 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.640 We took a couple members of the evidence response team 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.800 from the office down there with us just do a 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.640 kind of a cursory survey, an initial survey, and we 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.760 decided we've got to go back and talk to Floyd. 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:13.960 We want to really zero in on where because it's 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:18.280 a big piece of property where this happened. And so 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.920 we did. In January of twenty fifteen, we went back 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:22.359 in South Floyd for the last time. 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.960 A few months later, a full team descended on that 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:32.200 area in Oklahoma. There was an evidence response tane, an anthropologist, 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.400 and a state forensic doctor. 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.639 And we go down there. We picked out an area 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.560 based on Floyd's description of where we thought that the 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:45.480 murder happened, and we staked off maybe a two thousand 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.159 square foot area. They had cautioned us, the anthropologist and 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.679 the forensic person from the state, that you're not going 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.119 to find it any human matter. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.560 It's because of something else. I really hate thinking about 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.720 the area where Michael was shot as a high population 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:01.640 of wild hogs. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.399 We sat there for two days, eight hours, ten hours 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.600 a day, just sifting dirt looking for something, and we 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.160 didn't find anything at all. 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:17.960 My heart sank when I heard they didn't find a 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.800 body or even bones. But but that remains. I figured 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.520 we didn't know for sure that Michael was dead. Maybe 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:27.480 there's hope. Agent Lomb thought otherwise. 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.160 I believe Floyd killed Michael where he said he did. 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.879 And I say that because in interviewing Floyd, you're looking 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.960 for indicators that somebody's lying to you, and with Floyd, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.200 he was lying to us all the time. But we 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.840 knew when he was telling the truth called almost a 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:48.119 truth tell and there is no doubt in my mind 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:52.120 that Floyd was telling the truth in how he killed 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.840 Michael and where he killed Michael. And then there's people 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:59.560 who think Michael still living and walking the earth somewhere. 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.560 I just I don't believe that at all. I just 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:03.320 don't believe it. 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:08.280 I guess I'd just like to hear it from Michael. 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:10.960 I know it sounds strange, but I'm in a holding 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:11.880 pattern until. 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:12.359 I see a body. 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.040 I need to see it so that it can release me, 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.240 and now I'm the sleuth in this story. I can't 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.800 even imagine how Michael's biological family thinks about his disappearance. 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.000 So I called up Sandy to ask her about her grandson. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.399 Do I think Michael's life? I mean you and you 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.440 and I disagree about this time, but I don't think 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:31.200 Michael's alive. 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:32.639 I just want him to. 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.679 Be I would love for him to be alive. But 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:40.920 I know what a temper Floyd had. Yeah, and if 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.960 he thought he was disrespected, it's hard to tell him what. 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:44.320 He would do. 0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:47.159 It really is we disagree. 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.280 I don't think we really disagree so much as it 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.879 is that just I think we both hope yes, and 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:54.440 I hope pretty heavy. So I still don't want to 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:54.760 give up. 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:56.560 I haven't given up either. 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.639 So Floyd landed behind bars for kidnapping Michael because he 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.520 couldn't or wouldn't let him grow up with the beans, 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.600 but that kidnapping was not what put him on death row. 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.040 In the early two thousands of Florida, jury found Floyd 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.840 guilty of first degree murder. Believe it or not, it 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.720 wasn't the death of Michael or his mama, Susie Sevacas. 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.679 There was a third victim. Remember I told you that 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.280 Susie was a dancer to strip club called Mon's Venus. 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.760 That's where she met her friend, Cheryl Comesso. Cheryl had 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.760 very long black hair and lots of photos. It's kind 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.800 of teased, very nineteen eighties. A lot of people said 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:40.240 she was gorgeous and Italian and wanted to be a model. 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.280 Mon's Venus was just going to be a stepping stone 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.800 for her. Couple of times a week she would come 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.600 over to Floyd and Susie's two bedroom trailer. They all 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.920 hung out. She got close to Susie and apparently talked 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.159 to her about leaving Floyd. A lot of people that 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:57.200 worked at Mon's Venus talked to Susie about it. Daniel 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:01.040 Floyd was controlling and creepy. By this point. Susie was 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.960 about twenty years old. As I told you a couple 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:06.920 of chapters ago, Sheryl went missing in nineteen eighty nine, 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:11.159 leaving only a red Corvette behind. Six years later, a 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.400 landscaper come across the remains off Interstate two seventy five 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:17.639 in Florida. For years, she was Jane Doe I two 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:20.800 seventy five, but with a lot of detective work, authorities 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.080 finally identified her. 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.359 And they were able to identify the victim of Cheryl Comesso. 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.040 Investigators then had to try to figure out who killed her. 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:32.360 They suspected Floyd because he hung out with her in Florida, 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:35.320 but didn't have enough to put him away on just 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.679 their association with one another. But in a matter of 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:44.480 time the case had a breakthrough. A karma canny was 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.200 doing some repairs on a pickup truck, the one Floyd 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:50.240 ran away with. Michael Innn here's the agent law again. 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.800 They found the vehicle Franklin Floyd used to get away 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.920 from Oklahoma in a parking lot in Dallas, Texas have 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.439 believed a wonderbread speaking factory. 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.680 They put it up on a lift and that's when 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.480 it was discovered that there were a number of photographs 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.880 taped to the gas tank of that. 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:13.480 Truck, more than three dozen of them, all of young 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.120 women in various states of undress. 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:19.480 And it was pretty obvious to me and all of 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.120 us when we saw those photos that these were sort 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:25.239 of Franklin Floyd's trophies because there was a lot of 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:31.840 incriminating photographs, including photographs of Sharon Marshall was. 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:32.520 A little girl. 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.000