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Speaker 1: Bias. It's the word of the day, it's the word

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Speaker 1: just the evergreen word in college football. Bias. Everyone has it,

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Speaker 1: Should we ignore bias? How should we handle this? This

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Speaker 1: is the Late Kick Extra podcast. It is Tuesday, and

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Speaker 1: it is May second, The over Lord twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: We've got a wall to wall jam packed loaded mail

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Speaker 1: Kick Josh on Instagram, Twitter. If you want to do this,

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Speaker 1: you at some point during the week. I mentioned the

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Speaker 1: off this morning's Jonesborough, Georgia is where Andrew lives. And

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Speaker 1: Andrew chimes in, and he says, would college football benefit

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Speaker 1: from media embracing bias instead of acting like they don't

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Speaker 1: have connections to schools or regions. He says, I'm a

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Speaker 1: is an interesting question. You know the word bias, everyone

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Speaker 1: I watched Kirk Kirbstreet probably be about as professional as

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Speaker 1: get him? Guys, that was message board culture. It was

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Speaker 1: game because we screwed up. We shoved too many commercial

427
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Speaker 1: breaks in the games. Now it's spilling over the broadcast

428
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: window and we can't go back in time and take

429
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: away those media deals. So we got to shorten the games. Sorry,

430
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 1: they don't say that, do they. They manufactured the crisis

431
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: to address the issue, and the crisis was all of

432
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, you got you got thirty eight Twitter bots

433
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: out there simultaneously saying these games are so long. I

434
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: can't stand it. Now, if they go off the air

435
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: at three twenty nine, I'm okay with it. But three

436
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: point thirty seven, absolutely not. No one, hardly anyone said that.

437
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: And like I said the other day, if one person

438
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: was saying that, a thousand people were saying shut up

439
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,719
Speaker 1: to that one person that was saying that. So that

440
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: was the most manufactured crisis, That was the most overblown

441
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: controversy because it wasn't one. But don't worry. They solved it.

442
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: They are great at solving controversies that don't exist, in

443
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: case you haven't noticed. But the other question was what's

444
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: the biggest threat to college football? This is going to

445
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: be a little broad, but the biggest threat to college

446
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: football is Saturday not being the center of the sport anymore.

447
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: Those of you who have followed me for a while

448
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: understand what I mean when I say that. You listening

449
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: for the first time probably even understand what I mean

450
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: when I say that. It's a fear of mine. Is

451
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: something that I've always been concerned with and that is,

452
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: with all the change happening in the sport. I'm not

453
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: anti change guy, I'm not against change. I don't think

454
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 1: all change is bad. I think some of it's bad.

455
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: I think some of it's good. You can't look at

456
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: all changes progress. It's got to be judged on a

457
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 1: case by case basis. And some of the concern I've

458
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: had for a little while here comes that word. Frankly,

459
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: since the playoff was instituted, really was the disproportionate amount

460
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: of focus that was put on the playoff. I was

461
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 1: not anti playoff when we got it at all. But

462
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: what I became anti of, if that's correct, I became

463
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: anti coverage of the playoff. I guess now to their

464
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: credit ESPN, that is the entity that has owned the

465
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: playoff contract. They've come out in recent years and said, yeah,

466
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: we went way overboard on that, and they've rolled it back.

467
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: You used to see advertisements who's in. It's like a

468
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: week three game between Iowa State and Kansas and they're

469
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: asking who's in? What are you talking about? These teams

470
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: over under win totals are like five and a half.

471
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: Could I just watch the game? No, we gotta come

472
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: about who's in? What impact does this have on the playoff?

473
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: So they did that, and they did it to the

474
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: point where it sucked all of the oxygen out of

475
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 1: the room, and they can vinced people. Not them alone,

476
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: but that mentality convinced people that well, what matters the

477
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: most is the playoff, and therefore we now ascribe value

478
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: to a football game in the regular season based on

479
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 1: the playoff ramifications that it has on it. Now, if

480
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: you're an NFL fan, that model makes sense to you,

481
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: because that's what pro sports are. That is not what

482
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: college football has always been because college football was never

483
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: built on an equitable foundation like the NFL was built on.

484
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is very simply, the

485
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: NFL is a football league. There's not anything else it does.

486
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: It's just football teams in different cities. They're all given

487
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: equal payroll structure, they're all given equal draft accessibility, they

488
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: play by the same rules, even though there are different conferences.

489
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: Everything is built to push everyone to the middle, which

490
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: is great. That's one model that works. That's not college football.

491
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: College football is universities that existed for a long time

492
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: with no athletic structure, and then they once upon a

493
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: time said we think we want to have sports. And

494
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,719
Speaker 1: some of them decided it in nineteen oh three, and

495
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: some of them decided it in nineteen sixty eight, and

496
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: some of them exist in different portions of the country

497
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: where we don't have a draft model. We have a

498
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: recruiting model, so you can go get more athletes because

499
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 1: you live near Florida and they're in Idaho. And yet

500
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: then in the name of structure an organization, someone came

501
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: along and said, ah, who cares about all that, We're

502
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: just gonna lump all of them in and we're going

503
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: to call it FBS. Well, that's stupid, because it's ludicrous

504
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: to suggest that one hundred and whatever we have now

505
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: thirty four I think one hundred and thirty four teams

506
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 1: are all playing the same caliber of the sport. That's stupid.

507
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: But then the playoff came along and all that stuff

508
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: got ignored. Watching a Coastal Carolina app state game and

509
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: they're running Who's in commercials and if that game, in

510
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: your mind, does not carry Playoff ramifications on it, all

511
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's a less meaningful game. It didn't

512
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: used to be that way. So anyway, I went a

513
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: long way around the mountain of saying, that's what started

514
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: taking a little bit of the focus off Saturday. Because

515
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: you might not believe this, if you're twenty three years old,

516
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: you might not believe this. But once upon a time,

517
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: people in Boone, North Carolina would go to that Coastal

518
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: Carolina app state game and there was no playoff to

519
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: talk about, and it wouldn't matter if they were if

520
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: they were nine to zero or if they were six

521
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: and three. Just that Saturday is what mattered that Saturday.

522
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: That's it. It was like its whole world. These individual

523
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: Saturdays were like twelve little worlds that you lived in,

524
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: and no one was there talking about how well we

525
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: if we win this game and we really run it

526
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: up by already won, what will the committee think about it?

527
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: Screw the committee. Committee didn't exist. It was just about Saturday.

528
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: That's what made college football different. And we used to

529
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: not listen to the people that said, hey, hey, you

530
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: people on Saturday, you need to get with the program.

531
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: Haven't you seen the way the NBA does it. Haven't

532
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: you seen the way the NFL does it. It used

533
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: to be that you would look at them and laugh,

534
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: nod your head, and then lean back into your Saturday

535
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: group and go, can you believe those people? Oh, couldn't

536
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: be us? And you enjoyed it, And then some of

537
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: those people worked their way into our world, started to

538
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: reverse engineer it or re engineer it, and it's been successful.

539
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: So I'm not suggesting it's burning down to the ground,

540
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: but I am saying, since you asked what the biggest

541
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: threat is, the biggest threat to the sport is allowing

542
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: it not to look like college football anymore, allowing it

543
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: not to look like a sport that revolves around Saturdays,

544
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: with the postseason being like a cherry on top. That

545
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: postseason should orbit around Saturdays, not the other way around.

546
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 1: If you want it the other way around, I have

547
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: great news for you. There are plenty of other options.

548
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: It should not be college football should never be that way.

549
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: Next up Trey in Deer Park, Texas. Do you think

550
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkesan's approach to the transfer portal is the best

551
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: way for top programs to manage their roster, I e.

552
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: Not letting players return once they enter the portal. I

553
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: had a little league coach once upon a time who

554
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: told me I don't have a ton of rules now.

555
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: It was a very militaristic organization. Our little league team,

556
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: the Catola Mudcats. We all got drafted as nine year olds,

557
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: and we all took a one in fifteen record our

558
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: nine year old year. The next three years we won

559
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: the league and we ended up doing some things that

560
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: teams from Harris County don't really do because we knew

561
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: how to play well. Ironically, it was not a team

562
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: with a ton of rules, and yet, like I said,

563
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: we operated almost in a militaristic fashion. We ran bases

564
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: a certain way, we warmed up a certain way, we

565
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: carried ourselves a certain way. And the reason was because

566
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: of just inherent fear of the coaches. Even though it

567
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: never had to be exhibited, it never had to be

568
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: demonstrated on us. One of those coaches being my father,

569
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: should be noted. And so anyway, one of those coaches,

570
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: my father one day told me when we were driving

571
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: home from practice, he said, I don't have a lot

572
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: of rules on the team. You don't ever hear me

573
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: give these rules and say, now, if you do this

574
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: or you do that, then this is going to happen.

575
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: And he said, do you know why that is? Because

576
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: I think something had happened with another team in the league.

577
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was, but I'll tell you

578
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: exactly what it was. A kid went on spring break

579
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: and that coach had had a rule that if their

580
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: players go on spring break, then they're not playing the

581
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: rest of the year. Something like that. It wasn't on

582
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: our team, it was someone else's team. It was something

583
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: like that to where they didn't change the schedule. Now

584
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: in Little League up there, they just give you the

585
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: week off that coincides with the spring break for the

586
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: public education system. Well, anyway, he said, you know why

587
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of those rules because you

588
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: have to enforce them when you have them. So the

589
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: best way to avoid getting yourself in a mess is

590
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: to have as few rules as possible, but have a

591
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: great culture because if you have a great culture, you

592
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: don't have to define every single rule. Guys just go

593
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: about their business the right way. But if you do

594
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: have a lot of those rules, someone's gonna break them.

595
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: And the worst thing you can do is have a

596
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: bunch of these rules and then one of your best

597
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: players breaks the rule, because what are you gonna do

598
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: at that point? What kind of corner or have you

599
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: voluntarily backed yourself into as a coach to a certain extent,

600
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: this stuff is unavoidable, but to a much larger extent

601
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: it is avoidable. And the other thing you see sometimes

602
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: is when a backup will do something like, let's say

603
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: a backup breaks curfew, you suspend him for the next

604
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: two weeks because you really want to flax that authoritarian muscle. Well,

605
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: that's all well and good. But when you're starting wide

606
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: receiver that has eleven hundred receiving yards already by week

607
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: eight does the same thing the next week, what do

608
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: you do Cause you're certainly not going to suspend him

609
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: for the next two weeks, but you kind of have

610
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: to because you already set the rule. You set the precedent.

611
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 1: So I am saying all that to build up to this.

612
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian has a policy that if you go in

613
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: the transfer portal, you're gone. Whether you find another home

614
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: or not, you're gone. That's okay. If that is the

615
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: stance he wants to take, I'm fine with it. What

616
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: I think I would do is I may have that policy,

617
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: Like internally, I I don't know if I would stay.

618
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that to each his own. I don't

619
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: know if I would stay at publicly because what I do.

620
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: If I don't state at publicly, I still reserve the

621
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: right to not take you back, like I still reserve

622
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: that right. But what I also can do is like

623
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: if Xavier Worthy were to all of a sudden randomly

624
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: pop up in the portal and then come to me

625
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: three days later and say, hey, I changed my mind.

626
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in the portal. I do

627
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: not want to look at Xavier Worthy in the isay

628
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: too bad, you're out of here, already cleans your locker out.

629
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: He's my best receiver. I don't want to do that.

630
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's always fun to be heavy handed.

631
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: And like I said, if this is Sark's approach, it's

632
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: his approach. And if he sticks to it, and I

633
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: have no reasonablieve he won't, he'll stick to it. I think. Also,

634
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: it's a lot safer to have this policy at Texas,

635
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: where you're probably gonna be a transfer portal destination for

636
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: good players more so than your best players leaving. You know,

637
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Texas State, maybe like Texas State or North

638
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: Texas is the worst place to have this policy. But yeah,

639
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: it's interesting. Everybody's policy is different. Right now, you got

640
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: Dabo's policy of just rarely doing it period. You got

641
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: Sarks policy of if you go in, you're not coming back.

642
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: You got other guys that really don't have public policies,

643
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: and even then you don't know what they're telling guys

644
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. So who knows man policy is a

645
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: funny thing. And also to go back to the Little

646
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: Leaf story right quick. So we we were playing that

647
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: team because we had two teams in our same little

648
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: community and then that we were under the overarching Harris

649
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: County Little League sort of umbrella, and we just completely

650
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: skull dragged that team. They beat us up the first year,

651
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: and we skull dragged them the next three years. It

652
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: culminated in a forty two to three win that season,

653
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: and frankly, frankly, again, I don't think that kid was

654
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: worth thirty nine runs. But it was a tough scene

655
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: either way. Policies, Ugh, I got a policy not to

656
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: do this, but I do it anyway. I hate I

657
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: have to do it. I don't really hate it. I'm

658
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: lying to you. I look forward to that about as

659
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: much as anything we do in this podcast. If you're

660
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: new around here, yeah, everybody has ad breaks, but no

661
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: one tries to dive bomb you with them quite like

662
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: I do. It is a tradition Unlike much else, there

663
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: probably is something else out there like it. I'm not

664
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna steal the master's quote, but you get the picture.

665
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: It's a little little different vibe around here. There's almost

666
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: a challenge taken on by the audience, by the listenership,

667
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: by the Pate State community to sense when it's coming.

668
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: Some of you say you can sense it. I don't

669
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 1: know how that's possible, because I intentionally decide spur of

670
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: the moment. Mac is next up from Salina, Kansas. Done

671
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: some storm chasing out there. He said, what did you

672
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: think of the game day atmosphere in Manhattan last fall?

673
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: And how far can the Wildcats go next fall? I

674
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: did make my first ever trip to the state of

675
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: Kansas for a football game last year. I went up

676
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: to Kansas state' if you'll remember this, on the Every

677
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,479
Speaker 1: Given Saturday tour, we went to Oklahoma State versus Kansas State.

678
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: The line on the game was, I believe it was

679
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: k State minus one and a half. Either way, it

680
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: was one and a half. This was a game where

681
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: we didn't know whether Adrian Martinez was going to be

682
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: able to start or not, and I think that he

683
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: did not start, so k State ends up starting a backup,

684
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: and so you think to yourself, oh man, this Oklahoma

685
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: State shot right here. And the final score was like

686
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: half a hundred to nothing. It was the worst obliteration

687
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: by a mile that we've ever experienced on our tour,

688
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 1: on all of our travels, because we get to pick

689
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: the game we go to every week, so we don't

690
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: pick blowouts. Ironically, the only bigger blowout I have seen.

691
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: I can't believe that this is a true story, but

692
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: the only other bigger blowout I've seen than Kansas State

693
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State was the national title game. That's the only

694
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: bigger blowout, and I have chronicled. I think I chronicled

695
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: where I viewed that game from. I did not even

696
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: stay on the field. We went up to a We

697
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: went up to a place that normally would be reserved

698
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: for management. You don't find me in the luxury sections

699
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: very often, but hey, we had a lot of big

700
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: names up there and we were invited, so we went.

701
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: But other than that, I was on the field for

702
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: all of the k State massacre of Oklahoma State. And

703
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: that's also the day that Afterwards, I went to Mike

704
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: Gundhy's press conference. Ninety nine times out of one hundred,

705
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: I would have gone to Climban's presser because he's the

706
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: winning coach, but it was so thorough of a body

707
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: bagging that I had to go hear what Mike Gundy

708
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: was gonna say, and sure enough, it was memorable because

709
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: he said, we did some things in practice this week

710
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: that made us unprepared to play the game. I did

711
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: not have us in a place where we were ready

712
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: to play this game. And they started asking him, or

713
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: what do you mean? And basically what he said was

714
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: he did not outright say this, but what he suggested

715
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: is he kept guys out of practice that week, healthy players,

716
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: he kept out of practice because he was scared they

717
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: would get hurt, and as a result, they weren't ready

718
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: to play the game. And it showed never heard of

719
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: coach say that before. I can't tell you they've never

720
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: done it. I can tell you I've never heard them

721
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: say it. Afterwards, and he said it, and it was bad,

722
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: It was really bad. But you asked about the atmosphere.

723
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: So I got there the day before and I toured

724
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: and we got some really really good friends inside the

725
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: program there, and I learned a lot about the program.

726
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: There are some There's one particular, very unique aspect of

727
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: Kansas State's weight room and the strength and conditioning area

728
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: that I love, and I don't think I'm supposed to

729
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: talk about it, so I won't. But it's not weight related.

730
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with a dumbbell or a

731
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: squat rack or anything like that. But there's a thing

732
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: they have in there, and I forget whether they told

733
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: me I could talk about it or not. A lot

734
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: of these places want to keep their stuff proprietary in private,

735
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: so I'll keep it to myself. But man, I would

736
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: use that thing every day if I was there. And

737
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: also I remember the pregame. I always am fascinated. Maybe

738
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: this is just the way my mind works. I'm always

739
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: fascinated by how big Saturday is everywhere. So that sounds normal, right,

740
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: That sounds like a common sense statement. What I mean is,

741
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: if you're on campus at Texas A and M, if

742
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: you're on campus at Ohio State Clemson, the big programs

743
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: that you always see plastered in front of your face, yes,

744
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: you know that there are large swaths of people at

745
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: those places every Saturday. But what's so beautiful about college

746
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: football and if you really live this, you kind of

747
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: get you kind of get the chill bump effect on

748
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: your arms when you start thinking about it, is there

749
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: are people all over the country doing that in like

750
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: a hundred different towns. The tailgate experience driving to the game,

751
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: like meeting up with buddies that you see eight Saturdays

752
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: a year. And that's it because you're you know, you're

753
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: you've kind of got that family associated with the tailgate

754
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: culture and the season ticket culture whatever. Well, when I

755
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: was in Manhattan, like that's that's the scene. And the

756
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: thing about it is if you're at an LSU game,

757
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: you're you're so wrapped up in in your here and

758
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: now you're so wrapped up in your experience you're it's

759
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: not even it's not even processing in your mind that

760
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: what I'm doing right here on campus three hundred yards

761
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: away from Tiger Stadium, they're doing this exact same thing

762
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: in Manhattan, Kansas. And then there are people at Nickels State,

763
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: there are people at Arizona, there are people at Washington State.

764
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: They're all doing the same thing. And even though if

765
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: you're not there, you can rest assured. If they have

766
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: a home game, you don't have to have surveillance footage.

767
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: You know that all that's happening simultaneously really a beautiful

768
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: thing that may not mean anything to some of you.

769
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: I think it means a lot to a lot more

770
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: of you. And I hate that it wasn't a closer game.

771
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: I know you guys love that blowout, but I hate

772
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't a closer game because I think Kansas State

773
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: is kind of like Iowa State. And I've told you

774
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: the story about Iowa State. Before I grew up down

775
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: in Georgia and these places might as well have been

776
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: on Jupiter. To me, I was never going to be

777
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: able to make it there. I mean I could barely

778
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: even get up to a Georgia or a Georgia Tech

779
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: game or an Auburn game. So I thought of those

780
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: games those places as far away and it's this other world.

781
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: But I remember I would watch Iowa State and Kansas

782
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: State and I always thought, I know, those stadiums aren't

783
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: as big as the big ten in the SEC stadiums

784
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: that I see all the time, But it really sounds

785
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: crazy there, like the volume on my TV is not adjusted.

786
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: It sounds crazy. So I finally got to an Iowa

787
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: State game a couple of years ago, finally got to

788
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: a Kansas State game last year. The problem is neither

789
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: one of them were back and forth like nip and

790
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: tuck four quarter affairs, so I didn't get to experience

791
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: either one of those places like really just it full

792
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: throat for four quarters. So my journeys are incomplete. Everything

793
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: I expected, like everything I could have wanted. I got

794
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: perfect weather up there too, perfect weather the time that

795
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: we were there. But I gotta go back. I gotta

796
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: go back. I think they're going to be good for

797
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: a while, so I'll be able to. I gotta go

798
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: back and see a Kansas State game where it's it's

799
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 1: tied midway through the fourth quarter. Then I want to

800
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: hear it Bill Snyder Family Stadium. That'd be really fun.

801
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: All right, I got a question here that it's interesting,

802
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: really interesting. I gotta be careful with it. There, you see,

803
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: And that's a cough to kill time. This question does

804
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: not come from one of you. This question came from

805
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: several of you, and the question is what do you

806
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: think about guys leaving your network? What do you think

807
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: about these guys moving on from twenty four to seven,

808
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: Sports to ON three, or rivals or wherever people go. Now,

809
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: this is the time of year where this happens. This

810
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: is not unique. Everyone in our business structures contracts to

811
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: where they expire in the spring or the summer. Mine's

812
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: the same way. It just doesn't expire this year. So

813
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: rest easy unless you want me gone, in which case

814
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to wait at least a year. But

815
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: I think it's great. That's what I think. Till most recently,

816
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: you've seen, for example, Rusty Manziel, who was long time

817
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: Dogs twenty four to seven, Rusty Manziel, he moved over

818
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: to ON three. Rusty's a very good friend of mine.

819
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: I followed Rusty before I ever came here. Rusty has

820
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: been very influential and very great to meet when I've

821
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: been here. Talk to him about a lot of football,

822
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: about a lot of non football, and valuable insight he'll give,

823
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: and some of it's off the record, a lot of

824
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: it I can use on the record. But there is

825
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: a misnomer out there. I guess that when someone works

826
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: at your company and then they go somewhere that some

827
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: would define as your rival, you're supposed to not like

828
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: him anymore, or it's supposed to be viewed as all

829
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they're your competition. You can view things

830
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: however you want to. I tell our staff all the time,

831
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: we don't have competition in our market. We don't have

832
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: We are our competition. Okay. When we structure our show,

833
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 1: when we build late kick, when we want to do

834
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: a college football, digital media production, podcast, video, et cetera,

835
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if there are one hundred other shows

836
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: out there like us, or there is one we want

837
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: to meet a standard. We got blinders on. You're not

838
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: looking to the left and right, and oh, guys, they're

839
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 1: getting ahead of us. Let's put our foot down a

840
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: little bit. If that's the way you think, you've already lost. Okay.

841
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: So the reason I say that is I couldn't care

842
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: less where these dudes work, and if they're my friends,

843
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: I want them to go where they can get the

844
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: best situation for themselves and their family. And the other

845
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: part of that is if it means another company prospers,

846
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: that's wonderful. It's not a bad thing. It's a good thing. Because,

847
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: as me Ma said, a high tide raises all boats

848
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: unless the boat is leaky, in which case the boat

849
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: has problems. Like if you got to if you've got

850
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: a sound ship, you should want a high tide. It's

851
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: a great thing. And as many quality people as you

852
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: can have in your industry, whether they work for you

853
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: or not, that's a good thing because it brings better

854
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: shine to your industry, which ultimately brings more people to

855
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: your industry. So when I watch a Shaye Dixon or

856
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: Jake Row or a Rusty Manziel, and that's not an

857
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: exhaustive list, When I watch those guys leave and go

858
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: somewhere else, I am happy for him. Told them all

859
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: that already in person, so I'm happy for him. When

860
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: we see someone come here, I'm happy for him. And

861
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you of this. Those dudes feel the

862
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: same way because I know all of them. So I

863
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: look around and I laugh externally. I laugh in people's faces.

864
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: When they get concerned about these sorts of things, they

865
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: start chewing their fingernails. Dude, root for them. I always

866
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: draw this back to pro wrestling. I draw it back

867
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: to when I was a young, young, impressionable youth. Young

868
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: and youth are redundant. But follow me, and I'm watching

869
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: the Monday Night Wars and I'm watching a thriving WWF

870
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: and I'm watching a thriving WCW and it's great, and

871
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: the remotes just getting worn out, back and forth, back

872
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: and forth. Then all of a sudden, Vents buy his

873
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: WCW and the competition's gone, and the most entertaining era

874
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: of pro wrestling is gone with it. Those things didn't

875
00:46:56,040 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: just coincide in happenstance. There was a reason for it.

876
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: There's something that competition in the market does. And simultaneously,

877
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: I look at our industry and I think to myself,

878
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: that's really a good thing. I wouldn't care if another

879
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: company jumped up tomorrow and started scaling and building. That's

880
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: all the best, that's all well and good for me.

881
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I just I guess I don't

882
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: view competition the same way. I'm all for it, all

883
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: for it because I know it's not going to change

884
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: what we do regardless. And if it does, then look,

885
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: I'd open the hood a little bit and I check

886
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: and see, do I need to rewire some things about

887
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: myself because it's not the way it should be. So

888
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: that's the way I feel about it. You'll always see

889
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: that stuff happening in spring. It will always happen, and

890
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing. Ted next up from Montgomery, Alabama.

891
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: What do you hear from coaches off the record about

892
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders who ted a lot, a whole lot. Just yesterday,

893
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: I was talking to two coaches about this. A lot

894
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: of coaches don't like Deon Sanders. I'm just gonna be

895
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: real with you. I do. I find myself on the

896
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: phone a lot of times defending Dion Sanders, kind of

897
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: given the given the counterpoint to the point that some

898
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: coaches are making to me, and it's never the same thing.

899
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 1: So some coaches don't like his his brash, in your

900
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: face style to the players, to which I say, you

901
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: guys have done some of the same stuff, you just

902
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: didn't have a camera crew following you. But I digress,

903
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: And that's nothing I hadn't said to these coaches, I

904
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: promise you. Other coaches don't like how aggressive he's been

905
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: in the portal, and there'll be allegations sometimes that you're

906
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: recruiting guys into the portal, to which I also say, uh,

907
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: hoops to amongst us, you know, hoops to amongst you.

908
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: And then there is a third element where I think

909
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: their real problem is just jealousy, and then they they

910
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: mask it as well, I've really got a problem with

911
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: a B or C. No D or J. J is

912
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: your problem. Jealousy is your real problem. So there is

913
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: a lot of distaste right now in the coaching community

914
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: for Dion Sanders. There are a lot of folks rooting

915
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: for him to fail. That's what I hear from coaches now.

916
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: I would never give you names, but that's what I

917
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: hear from some coaches. Now. There are a few I

918
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: would put him in the minority, but there are a

919
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: few who are pulling for him. There are a few

920
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: who look at it and say, hey, man, he's a

921
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: change agent, and it'd be hypocritical to look at him

922
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: and be mad at that when some of the other

923
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: coaches I talk to have tried to change things in

924
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: their own unique way. But the thing about it is

925
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: everyone's going to find out at the same time, and

926
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: if what Deon's doing is working, then well, if what

927
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: he's doing is working, it's going to reinvent college football

928
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, because all of a sudden,

929
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: what you thought you couldn't do, all of a sudden

930
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: you can do now. But a lot of coaches look

931
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: at what he's doing right now and they say, well,

932
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: it's one thing to go get all those players, it's

933
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: another thing to create a team. They're not wrong about that.

934
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm not disagree. I don't disagree on the record or

935
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 1: off the record with them about that. But a lot

936
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: of them think that it's this science experiment that's going

937
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: to fail horrifically in Bolder and you're going to get

938
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: in all these pieces, but can you gel them? Can

939
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: you build a team instead of a roster of individuals,

940
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: And that is not easy to do. I don't think

941
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: Dion's ever said it is. That's why I also, on

942
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: our end, I've tried to temper expectations for the win

943
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: loss record in year one. And that's also why I

944
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: have warned you ahead of time. They're there's going to

945
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: be an army of people whenever they lose games this fall,

946
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: going to be an army of people out there who

947
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: are very very quick to get to the nearest microphone,

948
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: and they're going to be saying things and writing things

949
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: and broadcasting things about how well, maybe this wasn't so popular,

950
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: maybe this isn't working out well, guys, they won't all

951
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: be coming up with that on their own. They're going

952
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: to have sources in their ear. And a lot of

953
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: those sources are going to be a DB's coach from

954
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: a Big ten school, or a wide receiver coach from

955
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: a PAC twelve school, or a head coach from an

956
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: SEC school texting them saying see what I meant, See

957
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: what I meant? Told you you guys were all over him.

958
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: We told you how it would happen. And then those

959
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: media entities will be the conduit and you will get

960
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: those anonymous coaches messages delivered to you. It will just

961
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: sound like a reporter who's doing it that is coming.

962
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: I hear from them all the time, and I'm happy

963
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: to listen to him. Our network of coaches that I

964
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: talked to is very extensive. It is I rely on

965
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: them heavily. I always tell them, if you hear me

966
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 1: say something wrong, hit me up, and boy do they.

967
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: And with Dion, they have listened to me talk about him,

968
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: and I have had no shortage of coaches who are

969
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: happy to get on the phone or get in my

970
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 1: dms on Twitter and say, hey, let me give you

971
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: my point of view on this I'm happy to listen,

972
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: happy to listen, and you guys may very well be

973
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: right and I may very well be wrong. Appreciate the feedback.

974
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: Happy to listen. But I'd be lying if I told

975
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: the question or they asked her of this question, that

976
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: everyone was just sunshine and rainbows pulling for him behind

977
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: the scenes. And they're not. They're not all pulling for

978
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: him behind the scenes. Oh, net stup All this hit

979
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people where it hurts. Johnson City, Tennessee.

980
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: Ryan asked, what is your take on the ole miss

981
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: family who spent four grand to see Morgan wall and

982
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: cancel a show. Well, I would say that it does

983
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: not cost four thousand dollars to see Morgan Wallan in Oxford, Mississippi.

984
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: That's what I would say. It doesn't cost four grand

985
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: to see Taylor Swift. I know because I am fascinated

986
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: with the ticket market. And I was talking to someone

987
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: last night unrelated note, It's funny how it's funny how

988
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: things morph in the entertainment world. This person was telling

989
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: me they once went to I think it was a

990
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: Delta party on the campus of Virginia. Yeah, I want

991
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: to say, and Taylor Swift was there playing to fifty people,

992
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: and she just like thought it was the best thing

993
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: in the world that fifty people were there listening to her.

994
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: And now she does multi night sellouts in major stadiums.

995
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: She'll be at Nissan next week. So anyway, that stuff,

996
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated by that. Morgan Wallen goes and plays

997
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: in Oxford and has to cancel this show a couple

998
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, in case you missed that news, And

999
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: the thing about it was not that he canceled it.

1000
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: That's happened before he canceled it, Like right before the show,

1001
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: everyone's already there and all of a sudden, on the

1002
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: big screen it says, yeah, I lost my voice. Show

1003
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: is canceled. Sorry. Here's how the refund process works. Well,

1004
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: somebody took to Twitter and demanded a refund. Not for

1005
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: the tickets, they demanded a refund for everything they claimed

1006
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: they spent. So you had the hotels, you had the tickets,

1007
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: you had food concessions and whatnot, you had merch and

1008
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: they wanted refunds for their outfits. And the dude claimed

1009
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: he pay two hundred two dollars for his outfit. What hoops? What?

1010
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm not quite sure. Morgan Wallnce can't respond

1011
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: it to that, but I will say that this is

1012
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: always what I have thought about, Like, the main reason

1013
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: I am not a rock star is I am terrified

1014
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: I would just lose my voice every spring. That is

1015
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: really all that is standing between me and being on

1016
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: the top of the Hot one hundred charts right now

1017
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: in the music world. That's it, guys, That's all that

1018
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: is standing between me and that is I know what

1019
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: allergies do to me, and I would be terrified because

1020
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: you have to tour in the spring. In summer, you

1021
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: have to tour. It's a non starter. And I just

1022
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: I can't imagine waking up one morning feeling like I

1023
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: feel right now. I'm struggling to talk. You hear how

1024
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: nasally I sound. I'm struggling to talk. If I had

1025
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: to sing tonight and then I had to sing again

1026
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Oh, I don't know how people do it.

1027
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: So I respect him. I think probably you need to

1028
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: let people know you're canceling your show a little bit

1029
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 1: before the countdown to showtime starts. Yes, but no, you're

1030
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 1: not getting a refund on anything other than tickets. You're

1031
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: not getting a refund sorry, like the concert promoter is

1032
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: not controlling gas prices and your wardrobe. That's just not

1033
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: the way this works. Next up Seth from Woodlands, Texas.

1034
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: He said, is Miami versus Texas A and M last

1035
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: year a perfect example of ranked at the time being

1036
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: perceived worthless at the end of the season. So I've

1037
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: been talking about this a lot, and Seth has a

1038
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: good point. So here's the backstory. Texas A and M

1039
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: and Miami played last year. I think they were both ranked,

1040
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: and A and M may have even been ranked in

1041
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: the top ten at the time. So then we come

1042
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: to find out they're both terrible. Neither one of them's

1043
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: ranked at the end of the year. So the question

1044
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: would be, okay, well A and M won that day,

1045
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: did they get a ranked win? Did mi Ani lose

1046
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: to a ranked team? Should we define it at the

1047
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 1: time or should we wait till the end of the year.

1048
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: In this case, it's the exception to the rule. To

1049
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: my rule, and that is no, neither one of them

1050
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: should have been considered ranked. This flies in the face

1051
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: of what I think the norm should be. Though, So

1052
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: what Seth's asking me for is because I say I

1053
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: don't like you going back in time and retroactively devaluing wins.

1054
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't mind if you go back in time and

1055
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: add value. So if you play, if you play Peate

1056
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 1: State and you beat us and we're unranked in week two,

1057
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: but then Petate State doesn't lose another game and we

1058
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: go eleven and one, you should absolutely consider yourself having

1059
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: won over a ranked team in week two. I don't

1060
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: have a problem with that. But what I do have

1061
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 1: a problem with, and I've gone over this a thousand times,

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Speaker 1: is if you play Peate State in week two and

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00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: we're ranked number four, and you beat us, and you

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00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: knock out my left tackle and my starting safety in

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Speaker 1: the process of beating me, and also there leads to

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00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 1: some infighting because of how poorly you made us look,

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00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: and then we've got bad locker room vibes the rest

1068
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: of the year and we end up losing three more games.

1069
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: You caused that. So you should not be punished. You

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00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: should not have people coming back to you three months

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00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: down the road saying that when you thought you had

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00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: over a top five team, well they're barely ranked now,

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00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: or actually they fell out of the top twenty five,

1074
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: So we're going to take that ranked win away from you.

1075
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: I hate that because you are the reason, or you

1076
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: could very well have been the reason for the tumble.

1077
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Speaker 1: So I've always been a fan of defining the value

1078
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,919
Speaker 1: of the win when it happens, or defining the value

1079
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: of the loss when it happens, and then maybe a

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00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: case by case basis going back and redefining it. But

1081
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: by and large, I want it to be crystallized the

1082
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: day it happens, which is where I think Vegas comes

1083
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: into play, because they're a lot better about defining the

1084
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: power of a team power rating instead of just ranking

1085
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: teams based on wins and losses. And they're also very

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00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,439
Speaker 1: good at understanding things that happened after that game could

1087
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: be attributed to what happened that Saturday. And also, if

1088
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: you lose half a dozen starters later in the year,

1089
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: you're not the same team I played earlier in the year.

1090
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: All of these things factor into the equation. I had

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00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: some questions left, but you know what, I'm gonna roll

1092
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: them over to the next week. We were so loaded

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00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: that we have overflow. I appreciate you guys for doing

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Speaker 1: the job for me. For junior director Bradley in there,

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Speaker 1: for produce Jesse if a director Colin, I'm Josh Pate.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you please subscribe to the channel and subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the POT. I guess that's we're on podcast today.

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00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: Subscribe to the pot. That's all I ask humbly, as always,

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00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: thank you. Until Thursday night, that's one we'll do a

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Speaker 1: late kick live on the YouTube channel. Take care, have

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Speaker 1: a great rest of your day, and God bless