Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the show with Daddy Issues. Hey,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's Burke and Jeffrey.
Speaker 2: In the morning, there was a Second Date podcast, of course,
Speaker 2: I'm referring to yesterday's Second Date where the guy said
Speaker 2: because she had a nose piercing.
Speaker 1: As I'm staring at Alexis's.
Speaker 2: Nose piercing, which I had mine peers for eighteen years.
Speaker 2: The only reason I took it out is because when
Speaker 2: I was breastfeeding my baby when she was little, she
Speaker 2: kept ripping it out of my nose.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it hurts so bad. Oh yeah, yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: my dad was all about it when I got it done,
Speaker 1: but I'm.
Speaker 3: Already probably you as well. Yeah, it's like double pain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was double pain. Some of the comments we're
Speaker 1: seeing from yesterday, yeah, kind of the same. Megan Jones said,
Speaker 1: I got my nose piers with my dad. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Michelle says, everyone knows the universal sign for daddy issues
Speaker 2: is a lower back tattoo. Yeah, it's just the universal
Speaker 2: sign that you went to high school in the late nineties,
Speaker 2: everybody had or a palm tree or a heart.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I used to go to a tanny bed,
Speaker 1: which don't do. By the way, it's terrible for you.
Speaker 1: In the back of a video store. It was so sketchy,
Speaker 1: that is, it was so sketchy.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we're got awkward Tuesday right now, and so let's
Speaker 2: get awkward and make it happen.
Speaker 1: It's brand new and it starts now.
Speaker 3: The most uncomfortable topic to bring up in any conversation
Speaker 3: isn't politics or religion or that hairy growth on your
Speaker 3: lower back hands down? Its money? Oh oh yeah, top.
Speaker 3: And while it's kind of unavoidable if you're talking with
Speaker 3: your boss or your roommate, the last person you want
Speaker 3: to bring it up with is your crush.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I know.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what one of our listeners is being forced
Speaker 3: to do. And the craziest part is why he has
Speaker 3: to discuss it with her. Oh, it's so weird. You're
Speaker 3: going to hear it in your brand new awkward Tuesday
Speaker 3: phone call right after this. It's awkward.
Speaker 1: It's Tuesday.
Speaker 3: It's awkward Tuesday phone call. It shouldn't happen, but sometimes
Speaker 3: it does. Where money comes between friends and ruins their
Speaker 3: relationship forever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so easily that can happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like when I bought Brooke a seventy dollars wine
Speaker 3: glass to Canter for her wedding. That should pretty much
Speaker 3: equal out Brooke paying for all of my lunches over
Speaker 3: the last decade, but somehow she doesn't see it that day.
Speaker 3: Why you don't pay her?
Speaker 2: I actually got married thirteen years ago, so it's been
Speaker 2: over a decade that I've been paying for lunches.
Speaker 3: That's three years. You see the hostilities that I'm still
Speaker 3: getting over a decade later. Now, Brooke and I've been
Speaker 3: able to work through it, but one of our listeners
Speaker 3: hasn't had as much success with his friend, and that's
Speaker 3: why he needs our help today. Nick, Welcome to the
Speaker 3: friend Dome. How you do it?
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, if you're having me, do you? Nick?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: Not yet? Well, tell us about the situation going on
Speaker 3: that's created issues with you and your friend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I got this co worker. She works in
Speaker 4: my company, but different floor, so I don't really see
Speaker 4: her that much.
Speaker 1: So this is just a work friend that we're talking about.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so I've had like a small crush on
Speaker 4: her for a while.
Speaker 3: Okay, what's her name?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dana.
Speaker 1: Okay, does Dana know you have a crush on her.
Speaker 4: She does because I actually asked her out in a
Speaker 4: work event at a year ago.
Speaker 3: Okay, how long ago?
Speaker 4: About a year ago?
Speaker 1: A year ago, so it didn't turn into anything.
Speaker 4: Now, she actually had a boyfriend at the time, so
Speaker 4: she said no, thank you, but I would if I
Speaker 4: wasn't in a relationship, so she was nice about it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So a year later, I'm kind of out of the blue,
Speaker 4: I get a message from her and she wants me
Speaker 4: to meet her outside. And we have food trucks outside
Speaker 4: of our buildings, so she asked me to come meet
Speaker 4: her outside by the food truck. So excited, I'm like,
Speaker 4: I've always liked this girl. You know, I'm still single,
Speaker 4: so maybe something exchanged.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe she broke up with her boyfriend. Yeah
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. So turns out she needed a plus one
Speaker 4: for a wedding that she was going to that Saturday.
Speaker 6: Wow, wedding dates a legit invite.
Speaker 1: That is her opening, right, just single.
Speaker 4: Then at the time, I wasn't sure, and I really
Speaker 4: didn't want to ask that question.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I feel like if I don't ask and
Speaker 2: I don't have to know.
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, I wasn't sure, and uh, I just kind
Speaker 4: of wanted to find out and see, and I legitimately
Speaker 4: could not say yes quick enough.
Speaker 2: I'm still hoping she's single, and so I can say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: so have you.
Speaker 3: Gone to the wedding yet or no?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I canceled my plans. I was excited to go.
Speaker 4: Oh I had plans already.
Speaker 3: But they can wait totally right.
Speaker 4: So I went to the wedding, and I did find
Speaker 4: out that they broke up.
Speaker 3: Yes, horrible. You're talking about Dana and her boyfriend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dated her boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Dude, that's awesome and lining up for you.
Speaker 2: I feel like you had to like restrain yourself when
Speaker 2: she said yeah, we broke up, You're like, oh, pump
Speaker 2: under the table.
Speaker 4: I pretended to feel sad about it.
Speaker 1: Good job, what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we had a great time. And it was
Speaker 4: our friend from college's wedding. We were dancing, drinking, had
Speaker 4: a flirty vibe between us.
Speaker 6: Oh good, Yeah, this is random, But like, how were
Speaker 6: you associating with her other friends?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I guess that they will give you a good
Speaker 3: read into how there will, like the vibe is between
Speaker 3: you and her, if you're able to get along with
Speaker 3: her friends mutually, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: We were all drinking at the bar, having a good time,
Speaker 4: good great size.
Speaker 1: Okay, where does the money sign?
Speaker 2: Like? This is feeling like a second date update, not
Speaker 2: a for Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm getting there, don't worry.
Speaker 1: Oh you're life Okay.
Speaker 4: At the end of the night, we had a hug.
Speaker 4: I could have went for the kids, but I didn't,
Speaker 4: you know, out of disrespect. We were drinking and I
Speaker 4: answered to hang out next weekend and she said she
Speaker 4: would really like that.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: Then two days later it happened.
Speaker 1: What did who?
Speaker 4: I got a Venmo request asking for one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty dollars to cover my wedding guest feet?
Speaker 1: Oh what from who? It wasn't from her? It was
Speaker 1: from her?
Speaker 4: It was from It was from Dana.
Speaker 3: Yeh wow, I've never even heard of that.
Speaker 1: Did she Venmo the wrong person?
Speaker 4: I texted her and I said, are you sure this
Speaker 4: is for me? I thought maybe it couldn't be for me,
Speaker 4: and she said it's from both of us.
Speaker 3: We will wait wait, so we will.
Speaker 2: I guess it makes sense if the bride didn't like this,
Speaker 2: she didn't bring a boyfriend, he said, wedding gift. It
Speaker 2: sounds like there that she's making him pay for the.
Speaker 1: Wedding gift that she gave her friend from college.
Speaker 3: Is that what you said? Gift?
Speaker 5: Know what?
Speaker 4: Yeah, wedding costs, guest cost guest wedding.
Speaker 1: Guess what is that? Then?
Speaker 3: I'm not sure to be okay, So what is it
Speaker 3: that you want to do with your awkward Tuesday phone
Speaker 3: call that?
Speaker 4: I mean, I kind of just want to know what
Speaker 4: the costs are for? Why am I paying them? Yeah,
Speaker 4: you invited me to a wedding, Like she's hugely like,
Speaker 4: I want to know what's going on.
Speaker 1: It's like her okay, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, it would make sense if he was getting an
Speaker 3: invoice from the bride and groom directly and that was
Speaker 3: their issue, But the fact that it's coming from Dana
Speaker 3: that makes it really really weird.
Speaker 2: Well, and there's no explanation. She's treated that like that's
Speaker 2: an obvious Like yeah.
Speaker 3: Like she said for food or for a give or.
Speaker 2: Maybe there was like a cash bar and you didn't
Speaker 2: realize oh yeah, you know, like maybe the drinks cost
Speaker 2: that night.
Speaker 4: Maybe.
Speaker 3: But he wants to keep the chance of a romantic
Speaker 3: connection alive. So we're going to come back and figure
Speaker 3: out some ways to flirtily sexily ask her about Hey,
Speaker 3: what's the one hundred and fifty dollars charge? He sent me?
Speaker 6: All about flirty conflict this you, Jeff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll come back with some advice for you for
Speaker 3: your awkward Tuesday phone call right after this. It's awkward.
Speaker 3: It's it's awkward Tuesday phone call. If you're just joining
Speaker 3: us for the awkward Tuesday phone call not only as
Speaker 3: a friendship on the line, but a possible love connection
Speaker 3: between our listener Nick and his coworker Dana. There's been
Speaker 3: some unspoken feelings happening there. So when she asked him
Speaker 3: to be her plus one to a wedding recently, that
Speaker 3: was his golden opportunity.
Speaker 1: Oh, he was so excited.
Speaker 3: The weird part is afterwards, Dana sent him a one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars invoice to cover their wedding guest fees.
Speaker 1: We still don't know what that means.
Speaker 3: Nobody knows what that means, least of all Nick, and
Speaker 3: it just felt wrong to him because he was the
Speaker 3: plus one. He didn't even know who the bride and
Speaker 3: groom were. That's why he wanted our help today to
Speaker 3: bring it up to Dana. And figure it out while
Speaker 3: still keeping his chances with her alive. Honestly, though, Nick,
Speaker 3: if you really want this woman to like you, maybe
Speaker 3: the best answer is just eat that one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty dollars and don't make this phone call.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say no, you guys, this sets the
Speaker 2: tone for the entire relationship.
Speaker 1: Honestly, he takes care of his lady.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she'll like that about you. Yeah, okay, Brook, you
Speaker 3: have better advice for him? What's do?
Speaker 1: I think you should get out of pen and write
Speaker 1: down my question right now? Seriously, Brook, nobody writes with
Speaker 1: pen and paper.
Speaker 2: Just write on your phone and okay, okay, I need
Speaker 2: to ask her, Nick, why pay her half?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously? Why pay her half?
Speaker 2: Because she said that it's for me as well. Right,
Speaker 2: so she invited you, it's her friend. Sure she should
Speaker 2: be paying for you.
Speaker 1: But but in the least, why do you have to
Speaker 1: pay her wedding fee? That doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 3: Are you saying that on a date? Brook? You wouldn't
Speaker 3: make your husband Michael pay for stuff.
Speaker 1: This isn't a date.
Speaker 2: This is a wedding and this is her friends like
Speaker 2: bridy grooms do weird things.
Speaker 1: All the time.
Speaker 3: When you and Michael are at a wedding, all bets
Speaker 3: are off. You guys aren't together, you have separate entities,
Speaker 3: and whatever happens just happened. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 3: B take that in mind, Jose, what's your advice?
Speaker 1: I don't understand.
Speaker 6: I get it, Jose, you are going to do something
Speaker 6: really unconventional here. Okay, you're gonna thank her immediately?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Why?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah?
Speaker 4: Why why would I think her?
Speaker 6: Well this, it's a positive tone. Immediately you're like, hey,
Speaker 6: thank you so much for that. I didn't even think
Speaker 6: to ask if I owed you any money? And then
Speaker 6: maybe guess what you think it's for.
Speaker 3: Rather than accusing her of what it's for, you're like
Speaker 3: disarming her with a compliment before you come in with
Speaker 3: the real question. Oh my gosh, I must have.
Speaker 6: Yes, it must have been a wedding gift.
Speaker 2: I mean, it could get you the answers you want
Speaker 2: of what it's for, but it definitely doesn't get you.
Speaker 1: Out of pain for it.
Speaker 6: One step at a time, for happy, keep the vibes positive.
Speaker 3: What do you think you feel like that's helping you out?
Speaker 3: Before you make your.
Speaker 4: Call here, yeah, I guess I'm still very confused on
Speaker 4: why I got a bill. I guess I would all
Speaker 4: figure out in the moment.
Speaker 3: But we've given you the tools to be able to
Speaker 3: hopefully handle this conversation without making it too awkward between
Speaker 3: you and Dana.
Speaker 2: I'm so curious how you're going to feel after you
Speaker 2: hear her answers, And I.
Speaker 1: Wonder what the is seven five each is a pretty
Speaker 1: good deal for a wedding, just.
Speaker 3: Saying you're lucky that she didn't invoice you to pay
Speaker 3: for her dress also, so count your blessings. But we're
Speaker 3: going to dial her number right now. Hopefully she picks
Speaker 3: up and you can make your awkward call. But here
Speaker 3: you go.
Speaker 4: Hello, Hey, Dana, it's Nick. How you doing.
Speaker 5: Hi, Nick, I'm great, It's great to hear from you.
Speaker 4: You too. How's everything going.
Speaker 5: It's going pretty well. Just working like usual, as you know.
Speaker 4: Yep, yep, just another day on the grind.
Speaker 5: What we do. So what's up? Are we still getting
Speaker 5: together for lunch today?
Speaker 4: Or yeah? Yeah? I mean I had a great time
Speaker 4: the other night, and I want to thank you first
Speaker 4: for the invite in the party. I had a great time,
Speaker 4: and I just I kind of apologize for not asking
Speaker 4: what I owed for the event, because I know I
Speaker 4: got that invoice, so I didn't know. I wanted to
Speaker 4: find out more like what's going on?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well you know the bride she sent me
Speaker 5: an invoice and actually charged me seventy five dollars for
Speaker 5: each of us. Oh wow, you probably wanted to know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just kind of came out of nowhere. When
Speaker 4: you go to a wedding, you don't you know someone's
Speaker 4: taking you, you don't really think about paying. So but
Speaker 4: I also just I should have asked if I, you know,
Speaker 4: owed anything, because I love hanging out with you, and
Speaker 4: you know, I never want to chalk in between that,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: I mean maybe I read the situation wrong. I mean
Speaker 5: I kind of thought that we were on a date,
Speaker 5: and typically whenever I go on dates, guys will usually pay.
Speaker 5: Are you saying you wouldn't want to pay if we
Speaker 5: were on a date.
Speaker 4: I was a date, I think it would be different.
Speaker 4: I just kind of you kind of invited me, and
Speaker 4: I didn't know if it was you were considering it
Speaker 4: a date or if it was I don't know, just
Speaker 4: kind of came out of left field. A little context
Speaker 4: probably would have helped. You know.
Speaker 5: Oh that's interesting. It kind of feels like you're criticizing
Speaker 5: how I handled it.
Speaker 4: Not trying to criticize, just kind of thinking out loud
Speaker 4: and just trying to get some more information. You know.
Speaker 5: Well, ever, since I broke up with my boyfriend, I've
Speaker 5: been on quite a few other dates, and guys are
Speaker 5: just notoriously cheap, And that's why I'm just so glad
Speaker 5: that I'm getting to spend time with you. You know,
Speaker 5: you have so much integrity and you really know how
Speaker 5: to treat a woman.
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 5: So if you wanted to spend more than one hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty, you know, I did have to uber home
Speaker 5: that night, and there were just a couple other expenses.
Speaker 5: Oh man, Nick, you're not saying a lot. Is there
Speaker 5: a problem? Like what's going on?
Speaker 4: So? Uh, that's a little that's a little outlandish, that's
Speaker 4: a little crazy.
Speaker 5: It's outlandish. Is Atlantis to want to take care of
Speaker 5: me to make sure that I get home safe? Like
Speaker 5: you wouldn't just want to spend a little extra money.
Speaker 5: Maybe you're not the person that I thought you weren't.
Speaker 4: Nick.
Speaker 2: Oh god, god, Nick, that is terribless.
Speaker 5: No, not, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Who is that?
Speaker 4: Hell?
Speaker 1: That was so manipulative, Dana.
Speaker 3: We're all very impressed with you, Dana, because, yeah, you're
Speaker 3: on a radio show right now called Brook and Jeffrey
Speaker 3: in the.
Speaker 2: Morning, a radio show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick's there too.
Speaker 5: Nick, Why would you do this?
Speaker 2: This is between you and me.
Speaker 5: Why would you call a radio show? What is happening?
Speaker 4: It just kind of was taken off guard. I was
Speaker 4: kind of confused on the whole situation, and I needed help.
Speaker 4: I called them to help me because I really like
Speaker 4: you and I wanted to continue our relationship and I
Speaker 4: didn't want to make it awkward.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, you don't like me enough to pay for
Speaker 5: my uber to get home safe, So I guess that's
Speaker 5: clear enough.
Speaker 1: Or even go to the wedding and uber home regardless.
Speaker 2: There, dam How does that have any indication of whether
Speaker 2: or not he likes you.
Speaker 1: You guys work at the same place. You probably make
Speaker 1: around the same amount of money, like pay for yourself.
Speaker 5: First of all, I don't know who the hell you are.
Speaker 5: And certain women have standards. It sounds like you have none.
Speaker 1: No, certain women have independence, and you need some.
Speaker 5: Excuse me, No, do you know what year it is, Grandma.
Speaker 5: Women are still to be taking care of.
Speaker 2: Taking care of Okay, we're back into the nineteen ten.
Speaker 3: Is enough of to pull yourself up by your own bootsteps.
Speaker 1: It's not that pay for. You invited him to the wedding.
Speaker 3: Let us puts we want to lift you to greatness.
Speaker 3: That's what tells me.
Speaker 4: Okay, hey, so yeah, these people were trying to give
Speaker 4: me a hand. But you know, I'm sorry, Dana. I
Speaker 4: want to take responsibility for it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice, that's really nice.
Speaker 4: I could have been better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, why are you taking blame for this?
Speaker 4: I mean, Brook, you're ganging up on her. You're getting
Speaker 4: up on the team, and me, I came here as
Speaker 4: a guest. I don't have to put up with this.
Speaker 3: Up for you, No, he does. He wants to stand
Speaker 3: up for Dana because he was her date.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so at the beginning, this is what you want.
Speaker 5: That is how women should be treated. Thank you, Nick.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll start. I'll come into an agreement here. So
Speaker 3: at the start of this I suggested you eat one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars, but it sounds like you need
Speaker 3: to do a little bit more to how much money
Speaker 3: are you willing to cost towards her and venmo to
Speaker 3: prove how good of a date you are?
Speaker 4: Whatever she needs to feel comfortable here.
Speaker 3: Wow, you just want a good guy.
Speaker 2: You're just buying her affection at this point. That is
Speaker 2: not worth it.
Speaker 1: It won't last in the end.
Speaker 3: Brook, you're not dating anymore. I don't think you have
Speaker 3: any You you checked out thirteen years ago from this
Speaker 3: ral with my seventy dollars wine decant. That's payment for that.
Speaker 2: So you know after this, I'm venmoing you a charge
Speaker 2: for attending my wedding and that's just Nick.
Speaker 3: You're going to cover that cost from me, right, Bro,
Speaker 3: it's about love.
Speaker 4: I don't have you, but I do have Dana. Dana,
Speaker 4: You and I are good.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, what a gentleman, Dana. You landed a good
Speaker 3: one there. Yeah, chivalry Ison dead?
Speaker 1: What romos?
Speaker 4: Nick?
Speaker 5: Don't listen to him. I'll see you at lunch. You're
Speaker 5: paying Okay?
Speaker 2: Now, you actually do sound like Jeffrey.
Speaker 3: You should be so lucky.
Speaker 2: Brook.
Speaker 3: It Jeffrey in the morning, and we don't have Dana
Speaker 3: on the phone with us anymore. But it sounds like
Speaker 3: Dana was used to more of the traditional style of
Speaker 3: a relationship where all the men are expected to pay
Speaker 3: for dates, and that's not what everybody wants, but it's
Speaker 3: probably how she was raised and what she is hoping
Speaker 3: for in a relationship.
Speaker 2: It just sounds like she's cheap to me. She doesn't
Speaker 2: even pay her own bill at or friend's wedding. I
Speaker 2: think that she knew that her friends were going to
Speaker 2: charge for that wedding and she had she had to
Speaker 2: find the sucker to pay for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I think.
Speaker 3: That's possible. Sure, or it could just be like she
Speaker 3: was saying, that's how she was raised and that's what
Speaker 3: she expects from a guy.
Speaker 1: Consider a date too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, date, He wasn't sure, but he heard Dana's explanation
Speaker 3: and then he eventually came around on it.
Speaker 1: He eventually came around coward coward.
Speaker 3: To her, like every woman wants a good man to
Speaker 3: do absolutely so, as long as expectations are laid out
Speaker 3: ahead of time, it's really up to Nick to say
Speaker 3: yes or no.
Speaker 1: Well, he does finally know and we did help him
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, because it's his life and he chose
Speaker 3: to pay for it and for her life. Too, and
Speaker 3: that's true happiness. So hopefully we helped him achieve something
Speaker 3: that he felt was positive.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're taking such a noble stance on this.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I'm just trying to play the middle. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we'll try to do that for you. If you
Speaker 3: need help with your awkward lives, email the show, and
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Speaker 1: Thank you.