WEBVTT - Tibor Rubin’s Medicine (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nineteen fifty one, and a young American serviceman

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<v Speaker 2>named Johnny lay dying on the dirty floor of a

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<v Speaker 2>mud walled hut. He was a prisoner of war, one

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<v Speaker 2>of thousands of US soldiers who had the bad luck

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<v Speaker 2>to be here, a Chinese run camp in the far

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<v Speaker 2>north of Korea. Death was everywhere in the camp, death

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<v Speaker 2>from dysentery and pneumonia and starvation, deaths from untreated battle

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<v Speaker 2>wounds left to faster, and deaths like Johnny, a soldier

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<v Speaker 2>exhausted after months of abuse and captivity, unable to eat

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<v Speaker 2>or move, slowly abandoning the will to live. The other

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<v Speaker 2>POWs called it ghivapitis. There was someone else in the

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<v Speaker 2>room with Johnny, a scrawny twenty one year old soldier

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<v Speaker 2>with a thick head of hair and an even thicker

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<v Speaker 2>Eastern European accent. He knelt beside Johnny and said, the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Cross has just dropped off their newest medicine. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>give it to you, but in turn, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>pull yourself together. You can't give up. Then he gave

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny a small brown pill. The other prisoners in the

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<v Speaker 2>camp had noticed this man with the medicine. Something was

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<v Speaker 2>different about him. When they couldn't stand up and were

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<v Speaker 2>lying in their own filth, he washed them clean. He

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<v Speaker 2>picked the light off them when they couldn't do it themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>He sneaked bits of food to men who were dying

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<v Speaker 2>of hunger, and he made them smile. He cracked jokes

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<v Speaker 2>and clowned around. He reminded them of the great life

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for them back home in America. They just had

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<v Speaker 2>to live long enough to make it there. That guy

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<v Speaker 2>with the accent wasn't a doctor, or a clergyman, or

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<v Speaker 2>even an officer. He didn't have any influence or special training.

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<v Speaker 2>What he did have was experience, experience in a camp

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<v Speaker 2>even worse than this one, a place he'd lived when

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<v Speaker 2>he was just fourteen years old, a Nazi death can

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Malcolm Gladwell and this is Medal of Honor Stories

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<v Speaker 2>of Courage. The Medal of Honor is the highest military

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<v Speaker 2>decoration in the United States, awarded for gallantry and bravery

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<v Speaker 2>in combat at the risk of life, above and beyond

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<v Speaker 2>the call of duty. Each candidate must be approved all

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<v Speaker 2>the way up the chain of command, from the supervisory

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<v Speaker 2>officer in the field to the White House This show

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<v Speaker 2>is about those heroes, what they did, what it meant,

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<v Speaker 2>and what their stories tell us about the nature of

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<v Speaker 2>courage and sacrifice. Today's episode is about Taibor Rubin, the

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<v Speaker 2>only Holocaust survivor to win the Medal of Honor. His

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<v Speaker 2>story is about more than courage and bravery. It's about

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<v Speaker 2>compassion and the simple truth that sometimes hope is the

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<v Speaker 2>most powerful defense we have. Tybar Ruben was born in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty nine in a small town in Hungary. He

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<v Speaker 2>had a loving family with four older siblings and a

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<v Speaker 2>little sister. He adored parents, who took care of him

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<v Speaker 2>a nice house. As a kid, he was always getting

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<v Speaker 2>into scrapes, playing soccer with his big brother Emory, typical

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<v Speaker 2>kid stuff. It wasn't fancy, but life was pretty good,

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<v Speaker 2>except that Taibor was Jewish and the Third Reich was

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<v Speaker 2>on the rise in nearby Germany. By the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen thirties, the Hungarian government had begun emulating the Nazis,

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<v Speaker 2>denying Jews equal rights under the law. There were jobs

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't hold. I didn't marry Christians. Then in nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 2>Hungary formally joined the Axis Alliance. Even so, Hungarian Jews

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<v Speaker 2>were more protected than Jews in other access countries. The

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<v Speaker 2>government refused to deport its Jewish citizens to concentration camps,

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<v Speaker 2>despite pressure from their Nazi allies, so the Ruben family

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<v Speaker 2>felt relatively safe in their home country, even as things turned.

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<v Speaker 2>After all, Tiber's father was a decorated soldier of the

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<v Speaker 2>First World War. He was a patriot. More than that,

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<v Speaker 2>the Rubens believed in the essential goodness of people. They

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<v Speaker 2>taught Tibor and his siblings to act with compassion, even

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<v Speaker 2>when everything in his life argued against it. Tiber never

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<v Speaker 2>let go of that lesson. Here he is talking about

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<v Speaker 2>them in that super thick Hungarian accent.

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<v Speaker 3>I told you about I might ever seen used to

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<v Speaker 3>all these stylars. Don't say anything bad about anybody. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't know anything good. You don't ever hurt anybody because

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we have a different religion. But according to the

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<v Speaker 3>good Lord that's your brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything changed. In March of nineteen forty four, the Nazis

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<v Speaker 2>seized power in Hungary. Almost immediately, plans were drawn up

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<v Speaker 2>for the transportation of the country's Jews, about half a

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<v Speaker 2>million people, to extermination camps. The Hungarian authorities didn't stand

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<v Speaker 2>in the way of the plan, and as the Nazis

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<v Speaker 2>began rounding up Jews or just killing them on the spot,

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<v Speaker 2>it became clear that the world wasn't working according to

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<v Speaker 2>the Reuben family values. Soon Taibar was hearing whispered conversations

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<v Speaker 2>between his parents. Refugees were coming through their little village

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<v Speaker 2>on the run from the Nazis. The world was getting darker.

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<v Speaker 2>Emory was twenty, and their parents worried he would be

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<v Speaker 2>pressed into military service, so this sent him across the

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<v Speaker 2>border to Czechoslovakia, where an aunt lived. She had arranged

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<v Speaker 2>for Emory to hide with a friend who was a gentile.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiber worshiped his brother and was paniced to watch him go,

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<v Speaker 2>but Emory promised Tiber he'd be back soon. Just a

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<v Speaker 2>few months later, a group of Polish men were passing

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<v Speaker 2>through town on the run for Switzerland. Tiber's parents met

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<v Speaker 2>with the men and made a wrenching decision Tiber should

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<v Speaker 2>leave with them. He had to try to escape what

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<v Speaker 2>was coming. They sent their son off with a group

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<v Speaker 2>of total strangers. They were that desperate to save him.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiber was fourteen. After days of trekking, the group reached

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<v Speaker 2>the Swiss border, only to be captured by the Nazis.

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<v Speaker 2>They were sent to a concentration camp named Matausen in Austria.

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<v Speaker 2>It looked like a stone fortress on a hill. It

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<v Speaker 2>had been constructed carefully, not just to house Jews, but

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<v Speaker 2>political prisoners, conscientious objectors, enemy soldiers from almost every country

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<v Speaker 2>in German occupied Europe. It had some of the harshest

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<v Speaker 2>conditions and one of the highest death rates of any

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<v Speaker 2>of the Nazi camps. I don't need to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>how bad concentration camps were. No food, no hope, hard

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<v Speaker 2>labor guards who would shoot inmates for sport. The living

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<v Speaker 2>and the dying crammed into the same putrid spaces. Tiber

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<v Speaker 2>was just a terrified kid when he arrived at the camp.

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<v Speaker 2>An SS officer told him none of you Jews will

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<v Speaker 2>make it out of here alive.

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<v Speaker 3>So many people died there every day, for so many people,

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<v Speaker 3>mountain of people dead. They didn't even have time to

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<v Speaker 3>burn them. You know, the life over. There was no future,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to look forward. Just then I gonna be next.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tiber was smart and resourceful and learned the ways

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<v Speaker 2>of the camp. One prisoner taught him to pick the

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<v Speaker 2>lice off every single day so he wouldn't get typhus.

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<v Speaker 2>When Tiber got sick from the rotted potatoes and dirty

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<v Speaker 2>water they were feeding him, a man in his bunk

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<v Speaker 2>made him eat charcoal to settle his stomach. The Polish

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<v Speaker 2>guys he had traveled with showed him how to steal

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<v Speaker 2>food from the officer's garbage dump. He thought of himself

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<v Speaker 2>like a rat, cunning, quick and silent, doing whatever he

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<v Speaker 2>could to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>We rush an't no human beIN anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>He tried not to make connections with other prisoners. Friendships

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<v Speaker 2>felt dangerous. Other teenagers could be unruly and get them

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<v Speaker 2>all into trouble. Plus the friends he made seemed inevitably

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<v Speaker 2>to die, even in the crowded bunk rooms. He became

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<v Speaker 2>more and more isolated alone. Then one evening, during roll call,

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<v Speaker 2>he saw a familiar face across the prison yard. Tiber stared.

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<v Speaker 2>He couldn't believe it. It was his brother, Emery. He

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<v Speaker 2>pushed his way through the other prisoners to get to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Emory and Tiber hugged. They held hands all through that

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<v Speaker 2>role call. It seemed like a miracle. Tiber felt like

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<v Speaker 2>he knew who he was again. A little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>his humanity was restored. Emory had been caught in Czechoslovakia

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<v Speaker 2>and had spent months doing forced hard labor. Then, without warning,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd been loaded on a train to Matthausen. Emory was

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<v Speaker 2>assigned to a different barracks than Tybor, and because he

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<v Speaker 2>was a carpenter, he was often sent on construction projects

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<v Speaker 2>outside Mathausen itself. The brothers rarely saw each other, but

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<v Speaker 2>just knowing Emory was there reminded Tibor that he was loved,

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<v Speaker 2>and that kept him going. The famous Viennese psychiatrist and

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<v Speaker 2>Auschwitz survivor Victor Frankel would later write about this exact phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that those in the death camps who lost

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<v Speaker 2>their faith in the future would die a kind of

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<v Speaker 2>emotional death. The loss of hope would hasten the loss

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<v Speaker 2>of the will to live. He wrote that it was

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<v Speaker 2>quote possible to practice the art of living even in

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<v Speaker 2>a concentration camp. Frankel believed that if we react to

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<v Speaker 2>terrible circumstances with courage and kindness and unselfishness, then life

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<v Speaker 2>can take on a deeper meaning, even in the face

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<v Speaker 2>of inhumanity. Emory's arrival was at Beacon of Hope for Tibor.

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<v Speaker 2>He held on to it and to the lesson. It

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<v Speaker 2>taught him that faith in the future was powerful. Tiber

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<v Speaker 2>was in Matthausen for more than a year, amidst the death,

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<v Speaker 2>hatred and Squalor. Winter was viciously cold, and the prisoners

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<v Speaker 2>were dressed in rags that didn't keep out the chill.

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<v Speaker 2>They stood in the snow oh shivering while their captors

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<v Speaker 2>did roll call. Everyone was starving. They would sleep squeeze

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<v Speaker 2>next to each other like sardines. Often they would wake

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<v Speaker 2>up next to someone who had died in the night.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where Tiber turned fifteen. Time ground on, But then

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<v Speaker 2>Tiber started to hear whispers, rumors spreading. The Germans were

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<v Speaker 2>losing the war. The Allies were on the way, but

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<v Speaker 2>Tiber wasn't sure what to believe. Until one day, in

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<v Speaker 2>a palenteen forty five, the prisoners heard the drone of

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<v Speaker 2>Allied plains overhead work at the camp ground to a halt.

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<v Speaker 2>As first some then all of the Sas commands started

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<v Speaker 2>to flee. They had tried to destroy evidence of what

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<v Speaker 2>they had done, dismantling the installations for mass killing and

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<v Speaker 2>burning incriminating documents. By May third, the German soldiers were gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Two days later, the inmates heard the rattle of tanks.

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<v Speaker 2>The Americans had arrived.

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<v Speaker 3>One day, five tanks showed up that bregg down the gate.

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<v Speaker 3>When we see the American troops in, everybody was crying

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<v Speaker 3>the paper and the kids their feet.

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<v Speaker 1>We called them the gi Josh.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the soldiers who was there that day remembered

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<v Speaker 2>what it was like to liberate the camp. His name

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<v Speaker 2>was Charles Sandler. He was in the eleventh Armored Division

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<v Speaker 2>of the US Army. Here he is talking about his

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<v Speaker 2>experiences in an interview from the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 4>After picture, there huge monument. This was not just a shack.

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<v Speaker 4>Mauthhausen Camp proper was like a huge castle on a

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<v Speaker 4>high ground, a very permanent, but order concentration camp. I'd

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<v Speaker 4>say it was a beautiful structure. As we approached, one

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<v Speaker 4>of the strongest impressions, which I still very clearly recall,

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<v Speaker 4>was that of the scentse What we smell was the

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<v Speaker 4>smell of death, of bodies rotting, hundreds of bodies stacked

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<v Speaker 4>like cord wood, bodies still in the crematoria.

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<v Speaker 2>The prisoners at least those who were strong enough to

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<v Speaker 2>stand greeted the army with.

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<v Speaker 4>Elation, well with unmistakable just never to be forgotten joy

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<v Speaker 4>and screaming and hollering, and the gates were open. After

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<v Speaker 4>picture a situation of fifteen thousand souls that were just

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<v Speaker 4>beyond description, starving, beaten, abused, and they just wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>break out a captivity. I could have been elected anything

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<v Speaker 4>that day I will never forget, and they're always grateful

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<v Speaker 4>that I had that opportunity of performing that small service.

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<v Speaker 2>What Tiber noticed about the American soldiers was that they

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<v Speaker 2>were more than fighters. He couldn't believe how kind and

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<v Speaker 2>compassion that they were. They gave life, they weren't just

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<v Speaker 2>taking it away.

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<v Speaker 3>The medic pick us up filthy stink. They have to

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<v Speaker 3>wash us and clean us, and to take care of

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<v Speaker 3>was unbelievable. This was something you'll never forget.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiber and Emory were skin and bones days away from death,

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<v Speaker 2>but the Reuben brothers were two of the lucky ones.

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<v Speaker 2>At least ninety five thousand people had died in Mohausen.

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<v Speaker 2>Tiber and Emory returned home to their tiny town in Hungary.

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<v Speaker 2>Their sister Irene had survived as well, and she found

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<v Speaker 2>them there. Of the one hundred and twenty Jewish families

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<v Speaker 2>in their town, members of just three had returned. Among

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<v Speaker 2>the missing were Tiber's parents and his little sister, who

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<v Speaker 2>had been only ten. Eventually, Emory told Tiber the news

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<v Speaker 2>all three of them had been murdered at Auschwitz. When

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<v Speaker 2>they divided the prisoners who could work from the ones

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<v Speaker 2>who would immediately be killed. Tiber's mother had insisted on

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<v Speaker 2>accompanying his little sister to the gash chamber. She didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want her to die alone. His mother's sacrifice the American

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<v Speaker 2>gis both set Tiber on his life's course of holding

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<v Speaker 2>fast to what makes us human, even when inhumanity surrounds us.

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<v Speaker 2>Hungary was occupied by the Russians, and the Reuben's siblings

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<v Speaker 2>got out of the country as fast as they possibly

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<v Speaker 2>could before the borders closed. They made it to a

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<v Speaker 2>camp for displaced persons that was run by the United

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<v Speaker 2>Nations and the US Army. Tiber spent three years there

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<v Speaker 2>before he finally got his wish permission to move to

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<v Speaker 2>the United States. In neen forty eight, he boarded a

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<v Speaker 2>boat to New York. As the ship entered the harbor,

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<v Speaker 2>Tiber went to the deck to see the Manhattan skyline.

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<v Speaker 2>He opened his suitcase, and in a grand gesture, he

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<v Speaker 2>threw his clothes from the old Country overboard. He watched

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<v Speaker 2>them flutter down into the water. He was going to

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<v Speaker 2>start fresh. Hope had sustained him in Mahausen and in

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<v Speaker 2>the camps as he waited to start this new life.

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<v Speaker 2>Or other survivors of the war might have bitterness or regret,

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<v Speaker 2>Tiber instead had an unflappable optimism, faith in the future,

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<v Speaker 2>and grand plans for his new life in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>Once he was there, he was going to fulfill a

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<v Speaker 2>vow he'd made the day the American soldiers liberated Mauthausen.

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<v Speaker 3>I made the promise if Lord helped me, if I

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<v Speaker 3>ever go to America, I'm going to become a Geigel.

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<v Speaker 2>Fast forward a couple of years. Tiber was twenty. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to take a second here to tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>he looked like so you can get a mental picture.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't a super tall guy. A puberty spent eating

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<v Speaker 2>dirty scraps and moldy bread will mess with your growth spurt.

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<v Speaker 2>But he looked like a movie star, like a young

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<v Speaker 2>Marlon Branda. He had gotten a series of jobs once

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<v Speaker 2>he settled in Manhattan. He worked at a garment factory

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<v Speaker 2>and in a slaughterhouse briefly. Then he got hired in

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<v Speaker 2>a fancy grocery store on Broadway. He couldn't really speak English,

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<v Speaker 2>but he charmed the ladies and buying whatever he was selling.

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<v Speaker 2>He was an outrageous flirt, and right around this time

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<v Speaker 2>he changed his name to the very American Ted.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was in heaven. It's Loise Elmetti.

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<v Speaker 2>Ted hadn't forgotten about his vow to join the army.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, he kept trying to join, but he kept

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<v Speaker 2>failing the admissions test. He tried in New York twice,

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<v Speaker 2>and then in the fall of nineteen forty nine, Ted

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<v Speaker 2>moved west, ever optimistic about finding more opportunity. He settled

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<v Speaker 2>in Oakland, California, where he went to the Army recruitment

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<v Speaker 2>office again, and there he finally passed the entrance exam

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<v Speaker 2>on his third try. He might have had a little

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<v Speaker 2>extra help, not saying he cheated, but he could talk

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<v Speaker 2>his way into pretty much anything, even in his broken English.

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<v Speaker 2>He qualified for a sharpshooter badge, and his unit was

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<v Speaker 2>sent to Okinawa for training, and then war was declared

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<v Speaker 2>in Korea. The troops got ready to ship out for combat,

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<v Speaker 2>but the captain told Ted he couldn't go with them

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<v Speaker 2>because he wasn't a US citizen yet he had to

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<v Speaker 2>go to a safe zone instead.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, Captain, I cannot go, and he save his

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<v Speaker 3>own because I made the promise, and when I make

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<v Speaker 3>a promise, I have to keep it. You say you

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<v Speaker 3>are your mind. I say, yes, have to go because

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<v Speaker 3>I owed him to. The soldiers liberated me, saved my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to Korea with the regiment and I did.

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<v Speaker 2>So. Ted had asked willingly to be sent with his

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<v Speaker 2>unit to a war zone, and once he arrived in Korea,

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<v Speaker 2>he got way more than his fair share of danger.

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<v Speaker 2>This was because of one guy. We're gonna call him

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<v Speaker 2>Sgeant A. In interviews, Ted never wanted to give this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's real name. It's there in his service records, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was important to Ted that he never identified him.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mention any name, because you said this is

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<v Speaker 3>the man is dead. He cannot hurt me anymore. So

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned his name.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to respect Ted's wishes. Just trust me that

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<v Speaker 2>Sergeant A. Was a real person. Unfortunately, Sergeant A was

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<v Speaker 2>a foul mouthed World War II that from Texas and

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<v Speaker 2>an equal opportunity bigot. He hated the South Korean troops

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<v Speaker 2>who were serving alongside the Americans. He hated black people, Mexicans, Italians,

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<v Speaker 2>though fortunately for those folks none of them were assigned

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<v Speaker 2>to his company, and Sergeant A really hated Jews. He

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe that he had the bad luck to get

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<v Speaker 2>Ted assigned to his unit.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, no, the US would be coming here to

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<v Speaker 3>fight a war. I said, well, you're looking one of

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<v Speaker 3>them because I'm here, So you see that. To me, there,

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<v Speaker 3>you are a stupid as saroma, bitch, fucking jew I

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<v Speaker 3>ever met. All of a sudden, I say, I have

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<v Speaker 3>to show to him, I'm gonna be as good as him.

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<v Speaker 2>This is exactly five thousand of Ted's refusal to let

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<v Speaker 2>hatred chip away at his essential faith in humanity. One day,

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<v Speaker 2>his company was ordered to join a formation several miles

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<v Speaker 2>to the south. The enemy was coming their way and

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<v Speaker 2>they needed to move to a safer location. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. They had more AMMO than they could transport.

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<v Speaker 2>They needed to travel to the next position get some

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<v Speaker 2>trucks and drive back to pick it up. Sergeant A yelled,

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<v Speaker 2>find me the Hungarian.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said that we have a lot of ammunition

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<v Speaker 3>and rappens and everything. You're gonna be a guard and

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<v Speaker 3>if she if we're gonna come back and pick it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Ted was being left behind alone on top of a ridge,

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<v Speaker 2>a ridge that was the only thing standing between the

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<v Speaker 2>approaching enemy and the US troops. He was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>wait there and guard a giant pile of weapons by himself.

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<v Speaker 2>This was not a good situation. It was obvious to

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<v Speaker 2>everyone a single man wouldn't be able to keep an

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<v Speaker 2>enemy patrol from taking the ammunition or from advancing on

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<v Speaker 2>the company's new position. But Ted couldn't and wouldn't say no,

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<v Speaker 2>and Sergeant A promised they would be back to get

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<v Speaker 2>him before dark. Then the company packed.

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<v Speaker 1>Up and left.

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<v Speaker 2>The hours ticked by, the shadows grew longer. Ted kept

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<v Speaker 2>looking at his watch, kept waiting, hoping to hear the

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<v Speaker 2>rattle of trucks. Then it was dark. By midnight, it

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<v Speaker 2>was clear to Ted that the trucks weren't coming, and

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<v Speaker 2>he realized an entire enemy company could get to the

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<v Speaker 2>top of this ridge. In a matter of minutes, it

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<v Speaker 2>will be dozens against just him. To anyone else, the

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<v Speaker 2>situation would have seemed truly hopeless.

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<v Speaker 1>Not Ted.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked at the giant pile of ammunition and started

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<v Speaker 2>squirreling grenades into the foxholes along the ridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I have my m one rifle.

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<v Speaker 3>I lowered them down, a few of them and put

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<v Speaker 3>in some mamination.

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<v Speaker 2>He gathered as much machine gun ammo as he could

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<v Speaker 2>handle and place that in strategic positions too. He needed

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<v Speaker 2>to trick the North Koreans into believing that there was

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<v Speaker 2>more than one soldier on guard. Then he waited for

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<v Speaker 2>the enemy to arrive. And arrived they did. The moon

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<v Speaker 2>moved from behind a cloud, and Ted saw them a

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<v Speaker 2>hundred or more North Korean soldiers silently scaling the hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it was whistles and yells and the sound of

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<v Speaker 2>a bugle. The onslaught had begun. Ted hurled grenades one

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<v Speaker 2>after another as fast as he could pull the pins.

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<v Speaker 2>Bone rattling blasts of motor shells came back at him.

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<v Speaker 2>He crawled behind a machine gun and started firing into

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<v Speaker 2>the darkness. Bullets zipped through the air in his direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I should with my rifle. Then I should my

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<v Speaker 3>carbine I throw, you'll become hysterica. I did it four

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<v Speaker 3>and a half hours. I've been bananas.

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<v Speaker 2>Four and a half hours, one man against one hundred. Finally,

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<v Speaker 2>as dawn came, Ted heard the sound of American planes overhead.

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<v Speaker 2>What was left of the enemy scattered. The battle was over.

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<v Speaker 2>He was alive, but still nobody was coming for him,

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<v Speaker 2>so he started walking. He was shell shocked, moving like

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<v Speaker 2>a zombie down the dusty road. When he finally reached

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<v Speaker 2>his company, he told Sergeant A what had happened. Sergeant

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<v Speaker 2>A didn't believe him, but Ted insisted that they go

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<v Speaker 2>back and look. He wanted proof for his commanding officers

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<v Speaker 2>and for himself. What they found was a pile of bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>The far side of the hill was carpeted with dead

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<v Speaker 2>and dying North Korean soldiers. Ted was horrified. He cried

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<v Speaker 2>in a way that he had never cried before, not

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<v Speaker 2>even when Emory had told him about his parents and

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<v Speaker 2>his little sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I have a guilt feeling what I did here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I kill even the enemy, but I killed

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<v Speaker 3>somebody's father brought there and all that, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the irony right. He had become a soldier

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<v Speaker 2>to save lives. His first reaction wasn't relief at having

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<v Speaker 2>survived an unsurvivable situation. It was to see the terrible costs.

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<v Speaker 2>Ted knew what war was, what soldiers did. He knew

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<v Speaker 2>that they weren't just the life giving g I Joes

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<v Speaker 2>who had saved him from death in Mohausen. They killed people,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes in a way that felt needless cruel. Up until

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<v Speaker 2>this moment, Ted had convinced himself that he could get

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<v Speaker 2>through the war with his moral code intact. Now he

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<v Speaker 2>had to face what it actually meant to be a soldier,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had to figure out a way to balance

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<v Speaker 2>the scales. How he did would change not only Ted's life,

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<v Speaker 2>but the lives of dozens of others. The Extraordinary Story

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<v Speaker 2>of Ted Rubin continues next week on Medal of Honor,

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<v Speaker 2>Stories of Courage. Medal of Honor Stories of Courage is

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