1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back in our number two Clay Travis buck Sexton show. 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: Buck is out getting ready for his fortieth birthday. He 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: was in the last couple of days. I'll be in 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: with you today and tomorrow. Then our friend Michael Barry 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: will be in for the holiday season, hanging out and 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: bringing all of the latest news to you. Guys, Buck 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: and I'll be back together for the beginning of the year. 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. Make sure 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: you don't miss a single moment. And I know a 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: lot of you are out there traveling around. 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He writes at The Atlantic and David, 21 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: we've had you on the show before. I appreciate you 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: coming on and We've just talked about masking with you, 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: and I want to start here. I don't know if 24 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: you saw this in the New York Times, but I 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: read it this morning and I was like, my goodness, 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: the world really is shifting. In the New York Times 27 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: lead editorial today, they said we should make masking in 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: schools voluntary rather than mandatory. Two years of maskings. To 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: think two years of masking has no negative impact is shortsighted. 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Kids are resilient, but not endlessly resilient. They say that 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: masking should be voluntary. I almost spit out my drink 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: when I was reading that, because you and I have 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: been making that argument now for what feels like years, 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: based on the real scientific data. So thank you for 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: making the time for us. What is the latest on 36 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: the masking data and science? Yeah, thanks for having me. Well, 37 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: the latest, at least from what I exposed to my investigation, 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: was that the CDC used a particular study of schools 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: in Arizona as one of its key justifications for school 40 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: masking mandates. And what I found was that this study, 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: in a long list of ways, was basically, to put it, 42 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: to put it, puntly garbage. And this isn't my opinion 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: as a journalist. This is the view of more than 44 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: a half dozen experts who I interviewed for the article. 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for that, And by the way, for those 46 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: of you who listen, I think we had you back 47 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: on in the summer if I remember of breaking down 48 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: all the yeah, all the data. So I want to 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: start and thank you for sharing that finding, which unfortunately 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me at all. Why have the masks in 51 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: schools people in your experience, been so committed to an 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: idea that does not have any scientific basis in reality 53 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: and claiming while all the while claiming we care about science, 54 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: we care desperately about protecting children. Why have they clung 55 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: so desperately to masking? In your mind? Yeah, do you 56 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: have two hours? I mean, is it psychological? Is it 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: a safety blanket for them? I mean, I just you know, 58 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: I've got three young kids. I don't know what your 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: kids situation is, David, but I don't see it as 60 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: remotely political. I just don't want to make my kids 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: do things that are uncomfortable that provide them no benefit, 62 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: regardless of what it is right, and so it's just 63 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: a human rationality to me. I mean, you know, I 64 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: could put my kids, for instance, in a flak jacket 65 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: that protects them from being shot right when we walk 66 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: to school. I guess that could be helpful if suddenly, 67 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: like someone showed up and started shooting at the school, 68 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: but the likelihood of that on our walk into school 69 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: is so low. The kevlar jacket would be pretty heavy 70 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: on a kid. I could put my kid in a 71 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: motorcycle helmet when they rode around in the car with me, 72 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: so they didn't hit their head if we got into 73 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: an accident, but it would be really uncomfortable for them. 74 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: We make these balancing acts all the time based on 75 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: rationality and assessment of risk. Why has so few parents 76 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: been willing to do that for masks? Yeah, so there's 77 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: a lot there that you asked, So I'll try to 78 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: take it off. First of all, your assessment and your 79 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: analogies about wearing helmets and stuff, I think are on 80 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: point by and large, which is that the world is 81 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: filled with risks, and we make different risk assessments and 82 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: based on them we decide what's worth or not worth doing. 83 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: We also get in a car, most of us, you know, 84 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: often by ourselves worth our families and go on the highway. 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: There is a significant number of fatalities from car accidents 86 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: every year, including pediatric fatalities. But the people who want 87 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: their kids wearing masks, I assume most of them are 88 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: still getting in a car with their kids, and there 89 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: are far more children dying in car accidents. So, but 90 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: I think asking the question about why you know so 91 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: many these experts continue to push for this is complicated. 92 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: I think part of it has to do with the 93 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: fact that the evidence overall, and this is a contentious 94 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: point and others will disagree with what I'm saying here, 95 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: but this is my assessment and from look, you know, 96 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: being buried in the research and from talking with many experts, 97 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: there does appear to be pretty strong evidence that some 98 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: masks work on some people in some circumstances. That seems 99 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: for sure. A surgeon wearing a fit tested and ninety five, 100 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: there's some pretty good evidence that that is protected. And 101 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: even people wearing kind of a junkie mask. If you 102 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: pop into a store for ten minutes, if everyone in 103 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: there is wearing a mask, there is some protective effect. 104 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: We're not sure what it is. It's hard to quantify, 105 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: but there's something there. So and I think these people 106 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: sort of latch onto that and then conflate this sort 107 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: of unknown protective effect of some mask in some circumstances 108 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: and then complate that with all masks working, and that 109 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: it's worth doing anything you can. And that's where brings 110 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: us to the notion of mask mandates in schools. And 111 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: the one thing I can tell you is because I 112 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: feel that I know this research as well as anyone 113 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: there is, is that there is no evidence that mask 114 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: mandates in schools offer any appreciable benefit. There may be 115 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: some marginal benefit, it has not been demonstrated. And then 116 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: the question becomes Some people philosophically will say, look, even 117 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: if it's only a team tea weed, see benefit, we 118 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: think it's worthwhile. And other people like you and like me, 119 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: it would say, look, unless you can quantify this benefit 120 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: and it seems really small, I don't think it's worth 121 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: making my kid wear a mask for two years or 122 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: even two weeks for that matter. This doesn't make sense. 123 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: So and that's and one of the things that I 124 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: pointed out in my piece for the Atlantic was that 125 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: one of these studies that Rachelle will Nski, the director 126 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: of the CDC, was on television. She was at White 127 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: House briefings. She's tweeted about it, talked about this particular study. 128 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: It's like, really the jewel in the crown of their 129 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: masking justification. And the study has all sorts of errors 130 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: and misleading information in it that is so bad that 131 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: some of the experts who I interviewed in my piece 132 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: and who I quoted say that it should never even 133 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: had to enter the public conversation. David Zwige with us. 134 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: That's an incredible finding that you did, and I want 135 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: to thank you for the work that you're doing here. 136 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: Journalists should ask questions like these. They should be skeptical 137 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: of authority. They should not presume that they are always 138 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: being honestly treated by people in positions of power. Why 139 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: are you one of the few people that will even 140 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: ask these questions, I don't know. I think part of 141 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: it has to do with the fact that I'm an 142 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: independent journalist. I didn't go to an Ivy League school. 143 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, in this sort of class of 144 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: people who typically are most of the people at places 145 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: like The New York Times or even the outlets that 146 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: I write for at The Atlantic or elsewhere. And I 147 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: think there's a certain type of group thinks that takes hold, 148 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: and connected to that group think is the notion of 149 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: most of the people tend to be politically homogeneous toward 150 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: the left, and this has become such a politicized issue 151 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: that it's almost impossible to kind of push back either 152 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: a if someone wants to push back, they're told they can't, 153 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: or they're afraid to or be I think there's almost 154 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: a religious nature to some of these measures, where I 155 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: think people who are otherwise very intelligent people are able 156 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: to rationalize and sort of wall off that part of 157 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: the brain that might look at these issues a little 158 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: bit more clearly. Have you lost friends over your reporting 159 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: on masking in schools? Well, you mean other than the 160 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: people on my hometown Facebook page who called me a 161 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: child murderer. I mean, but I do think I do 162 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: think that's significant, right, because you know, I'm not I'm 163 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: active on social media for my job, but I don't 164 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: know what anybody in my high school class has ever done. 165 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what most of the time, what people 166 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: in my coup like. I'm not on like a private 167 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: individual Facebook page. But my wife every now and then 168 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: will say people are losing their minds over the fact 169 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: that you think kids should be in school when I 170 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: was saying it last year, right, and that kids shouldn't 171 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: be wearing masks. And so I think for people out 172 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: there listening, you deserve a lot of credit. We're talking 173 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: with David zwig at at the Atlantic because of exactly that, right, 174 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: there is a social pressure to get in line and 175 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: not question the consensus, and if you do, you will 176 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: be severely maligned. So you're kind of joking about that, 177 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: But I think that's one reason that so many people 178 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: are afraid to say what they actually think, even in 179 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: the world of media, because they're afraid about what might 180 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: happen at the PTA meeting, or they're afraid about what 181 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: their neighbors might think. In a larger scale. I mean, 182 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: I do think that's a fascinating part of the story 183 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: and why they're so little debate. You're exactly right and so, 184 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: but part of it is that a lot of these 185 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: people in the media, though it's not that they're afraid, 186 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: they actually do believe this. Again, I think there is 187 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: this almost kind of like the walling off of a 188 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: part of the brain toward sort of rational thought process 189 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: on this. But for the other group of people. I 190 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: can tell you this. I am in contact with infectious 191 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: disease specialists at some of our nation's top institutions, and epidemiologists, 192 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: pediatric immunologist. I have a long list of people who 193 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: I converse with regularly, and all it has to be 194 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: off the record. They all agree with what you and 195 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: I have been saying. They feel vehemently that kids should 196 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: be in school. They've been against many of the ideas 197 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: and guidelines that Fauci has pushed for. They are against 198 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: the idea of kids wearing masks in school by and large, 199 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: but none of them can speak out. They've either been 200 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 1: told explicitly by the head of their department at whatever 201 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: university or hospital they're at, or it's just implicit. People 202 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: don't want to be Most people are not comfortable being 203 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: on the out of a group. And if all of 204 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: your colleagues are saying one thing, and all of your 205 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: sort of people in your social network, if you're living 206 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: in some sort of Northeastern liberal enclave or some college 207 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: town somewhere, or most of the politics to trend toward 208 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: a certain direction, it's very, very hard to have the 209 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: type of personality where you are I wouldn't say comfortable 210 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: with it, but where you are accepting of that for 211 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: whatever reason, for better or for worse, I have that 212 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: personality where to me, I just have needed to follow 213 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: where the science has led me, and it has led 214 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: me into a place that is very different from what 215 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: much of the quote blue States and democratic and public 216 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: health establishment has pushed for in America. And I'll say 217 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: one thing for why I think there's a strong case 218 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: why I'm right on this is that much of our 219 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: peer nations in Europe are very much in line with 220 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: what you and I are saying about kids being in 221 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: school and about prizing normalcy for children and understanding the 222 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: incredibly low risk to them. The United States in this 223 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: regard really is an outlier. So that's whenever that's brought 224 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: up to these people, they have a tough time coming 225 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: up with a rebuttal. So that's one of the things 226 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: that I often try to point out in my articles 227 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: is that we are an outlier. The CDC wants children 228 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: as young as two years old to wear a mask, 229 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: but yet the World Health Organization has repeatedly said no 230 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: one under age six should wear a mask, and the 231 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: European version of the CDC. They it's called the ECDC. 232 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: They don't want anyone in primary school wearing masks. So 233 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: why is it that the CDC's guidance is so dramatically 234 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: different from that of these other public health institutions. Last 235 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: question for you, David. We appreciate you making the time. 236 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: How does this end? How does masking in schools end? 237 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: If there is no science that supports it, and if 238 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: we're dealing with some sort of magical leap of faith 239 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: style masking authoritarianism right now, how does it end in schools? 240 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, And I have this conversation with people 241 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: every day, and I just was corresponding with some infectious 242 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: disease experts who have been instrumental in rolling back some 243 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: of the programs in schools in their state. And they 244 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: helped implement Tests to Stay, which was a program where 245 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: instead of quarantining kids, at least they test them and 246 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: if they're negative, then you can go to class. And 247 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: I talk with them about, you know, how does this end? 248 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: You know, don't you think we should start rolling this back? 249 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: And they said, right now, it's not politically palatable to 250 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: do something like that. So it is a bit of 251 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: a chicken or an egg thing. People are afraid to 252 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: say something, but no one but we're never going to 253 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: get to the point where we can say something if 254 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: everyone's afraid to speak out. I think I worry it's 255 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: going to be one of those things where it's really 256 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: going to take the courage of some politicians, particularly in 257 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: blue or states, to just go ahead and start rolling 258 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: this back, and then when people see that everything's okay, 259 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: then the others will fall in line. David, we appreciate 260 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: the time. I'm going to tweet out your article. For 261 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: people who want to read this, you can follow me 262 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: at Clay Travis. You're at David's wig, I believe as well. 263 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: I'll give people your link. Appreciate all the work you're 264 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: doing and the fact that you're willing to ask questions 265 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: that may make some people uncomfortable. I appreciate you having 266 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: me on again, Tray. That is David's wig, and when 267 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: we come back, I'll unpack a little bit of what 268 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: he just said there. But in the meantime, trying to 269 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: save some money, how about if I could save you 270 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars this year? How about if you didn't 271 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: have to pay your mortgage for the next couple of 272 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: months and you were able to walk in a new 273 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: lower rate. It's time to put your financial house in 274 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: order by calling American Financing today eight hundred seven seven 275 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: seven eighty one oh nine. Let me tell you one 276 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: more time. How much difference would twelve thousand dollars a 277 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: year making your national family budget? How much difference would 278 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: a couple of mortgage payments that you could skip at 279 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: the beginning of this year make for you and your family? 280 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: Probably a massive difference. I've been there sitting around the 281 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: table doing your family budget. You can save an absolute bundle. 282 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: All you have to do. Get your phones in your 283 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: hand right now call eight hundred seven seven seven eighty 284 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: one oh nine. You can visit American Financing dot net 285 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: and MLS one eight two three three four. That's eight 286 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: hundred and seven seven seven eighty one o nine. Bumbled 287 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: to walk in the footsteps of a legend to Clay 288 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: Traviston on the EIB Network Welcome Back in Clay Travis 289 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. If you, like me, are a parent 290 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: who was and remains really fired up about masking requirements 291 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: on kids, you need to read that David Zwide piece 292 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: in the Atlantic by the way the Atlantic is not 293 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: known as some super conservative organization. In fact, quite the opposite. 294 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: And I think David, if I had asked him, because 295 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: we had him on back in the summer, he tends 296 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: towards a left leaning perspective. But to his credit, he 297 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: has just looked at all the data and he has 298 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: said there is absolutely no scientific basis whatsoever to support 299 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: the idea of masking kids in schools, and in fact 300 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: the data that the CDC points to is actually made 301 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: up of flawed studies. The CDC effectively is lying to 302 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: you about there being any support for kids wearing masks 303 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: in schools. And so you need to read that piece. 304 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: I just tweeted it out. I'm at Clay Travis. You 305 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: can go find me on Twitter if you are interested 306 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: in reading that David's wide piece that we were just discussing. 307 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: If you're a parent, if you're a grandparent, I would 308 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: encourage you to read it. The Emperor really is wearing 309 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: no clothes when it comes to much of the masking dogma, 310 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: but in particular as it pertains to kids having to 311 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: wear masks in schools, you really need to inform yourself 312 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: so that you can help to fight against masking requirements 313 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: for your kids in your particular school districts. When we 314 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: come back, I want to talk about this crazy Jesse 315 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: Water CNN story, Fauci lying CNN lying, all of the 316 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: dishonesty rolling in there. But in the meantime, I want 317 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: to tell you about our friends at Tunnel to Towers. 318 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: You'll never forget what happened on September eleventh. Since September eleventh, 319 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: more than seven thousand US soldiers have made the ultimate sacrifice. 320 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: These heroes part of the War on Terror, America's response 321 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: to nine to eleven. They fought for us, but never 322 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: came home. 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You're listening to 331 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: Clay Travis said, buck Sexton fund the EIB network term 332 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 1: back end Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. By the way, 333 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: we're gonna open up the phone lines here maybe in 334 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: the third hour of the show, and I'll take some 335 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: of your calls, just kind of open line Wednesday Fun 336 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: Time eight hundred two A two two eight A two. 337 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: Also we got a fun interview coming up at the 338 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,719 Speaker 1: top of the third hour here, we're all over thirty 339 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: minutes from now. Some of you are going to remember 340 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: the name Dick vermil He was the head coach of 341 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: the then Saint Louis Rams when Kurt Warner took over, 342 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: and they had one of the most magical runs in 343 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. And I know Rush was 344 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: a big fan of NFL football in general, but also 345 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: this storyline. Kurt Warner has got a new movie out. 346 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: It's called American Underdog, and I'll talk a little bit 347 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: about it. It's incredible if you have forgotten the story 348 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: of how Kurt Warner went from stocking shelves in an 349 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: Iowa grocery store to becoming the NFL MVP as a 350 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: rookie and winning the Super Bowl. It is truly one 351 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: of the most remarkable stories of all time. I love 352 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: everything about this story except for the fact that they 353 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: beat my favorite team, the Tennessee Titans, in the Super Bowl. 354 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pretend that's not the ending of this story. 355 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: But Dick Vermeil was the head coach of that team, 356 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: and that movie is out. I gotta tell you if 357 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: you're looking for I know a lot of people like 358 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: to go to the movies. I know Spider Man movies out. 359 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: My kids say it's incredible. May have a little Spider 360 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: Man take for you here before the show is over, 361 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: because I do think it's instructive about America getting back 362 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: to normal in many ways. But if you're looking for 363 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: a Christmas movie to go see, this American Underdog movie 364 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: is phenomenal. And I think a lot of you out 365 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: there are ready for just an uplifting story that makes 366 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: you feel good about America and about the people who 367 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: live here and instead of tearing everything down. I think 368 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: you're really gonna like it. But so that's what we're 369 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about with Dick vermil at 370 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: the start of the third hour of the program. But 371 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: in the meantime, I want to tell you a story 372 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: of how lies spread and how artificial stories can become 373 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: a staple of the overall media narrative that is out there. 374 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: And I just saw this happen with Jesse Waters of 375 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: Fox News. I know a lot of you watch Jesse 376 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: on the five. He's got his own show on the weekend. 377 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: I believe at Fox News. I know Jesse a little bit. 378 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: He's not a close friend, so I'm not taking up 379 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: arms for him because he's a buddy. I know him 380 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: just a little bit. But when I saw how fundamentally 381 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: dishonest this story was, I said, We've got to make 382 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: sure that we address this on the biggest radio show 383 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: in the country so that we can have as many 384 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: people as possible throwing punches back. So that's what we're 385 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: doing right here. All right, how is the sausage made? 386 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Here's what happened. Jesse Waters is speaking to a large 387 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: group of people out in Phoenix, and he talks about 388 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: how doctor Fauci is a liar and how he needs 389 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: to be exposed for those lies. And so I want 390 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: you to listen to what Jesse Waters said in his 391 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: speech to a crowded auditorium out in Phoenix. Let's play 392 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: cut six just listen closely. You got to ambush a 393 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: guy like Fauci. Okay, you gotta be respectful because they'll 394 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: turn on the tables on you and you can't have 395 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: a blow up in your face. So you say, my 396 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: name's Thompson. I'm from Da Da Da Da Da. Do 397 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: you mind, doctor Fauci? If I ask you a few questions, 398 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna say now, but you were polite. So if 399 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: he says no, no, no, no, not right now, you 400 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: say no, no, no, we're going to address this right now. 401 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: You're just gonna speak gibberish. You let him talk, get 402 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: it on tape. Now you're going for the kill shot. 403 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: This is when you say, doctor Fauci, you funded risky 404 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: research at a sloppy Chinese lab, the same lab that 405 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: sprung this pandemic on the world. You know why people 406 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: don't trust you, don't you? Boom? He is dead. He 407 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: is dead. Imagine Tucker Carlson teases out of the a 408 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: block coming up. Brave college student confronts Lord Fauci at dinner. Okay, 409 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: that's what Jesse Waters said. You just heard it all 410 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: in the context in which he said it. Listen to 411 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: what CNN did to that audio that they then brought 412 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: to their audience. Let's play cut five. You heard the 413 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: full the full statement. Now I want you to hear 414 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: the CNN version. You got to ambush a guy like Fauci. 415 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: Get it on tape with your iPhone or your buddy's iPhone. 416 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: Now you're going for the kill shot, the kill shot 417 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: with an ambush deadly because he doesn't see it coming. 418 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: This is when you say, doctor Fauci, you funded risky 419 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: research at a sloppy Chinese lab, the same lab that 420 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: sprung this pandemic on the world. You know why people 421 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: don't trust you, don't you? Boom? He is dead. He 422 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: is dead, all right? And then CNN used their edited version. 423 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: Remember Jesse Water said, Hey, I want you to approach 424 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: him respectfully. I want you to have your phones out, 425 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: ask him questions. And then CNN asks Fauci about the 426 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: Jesse Waters clip that they have edited and they have 427 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: made look like he's somehow advocating an assassination as opposed 428 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: speaking in a metaphorical context about what a kill shot is. 429 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: And this is what Fauci said. That's horrible. I mean 430 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: that just a such a reflection of the craziness that 431 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: goes on in society. The only thing that I have 432 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: ever done throughout these two years is to encourage people 433 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: to practice good public health practices. And for that, he 434 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: will have some guy out there saying that people should 435 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: be giving me a kill shot to ambush me. I mean, 436 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: what kind of craziness is there in society these days. 437 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: That's awful that he said that, and he's going to 438 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: go very likely unaccountable. I mean whatever network he's on 439 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: is not going to do anything for him. I mean, 440 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: that's crazy. The guy should be fired on the spot. Okay, 441 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: the guy should be fired on the spot? Is now 442 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: the headline because he said Fauci should get a kill 443 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: shot and because he should be ambushed. That's a why. 444 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: But they then CNN has created a narrative where Jesse 445 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: Waters called for the assassination of doctor Fauci and there 446 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: are going to be no consequences for what he said, 447 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: and he should be fired immediately. Think about the way 448 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: that that story was played. How many of you saw 449 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 1: the headline of Fauci demanding that Waters be fired for 450 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: what was a discussion of a respectful way that a 451 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: student journalist could potentially hold doctor Fauci accountable for helping 452 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: to fund gain a function research in labs that we 453 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: believe i'd personally some of you, some of you may disagree, 454 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: but I believe personally helped to directly lead to COVID 455 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: escaping from a Chinese lab and then infecting the entire 456 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 1: United States in the world. That is how the fake news, 457 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: in Donald Trump parlance, sausage is made. They take a 458 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: cut of an overall paragraph of discussion, take it out 459 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: of context, turn it into something on it was not, 460 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: and then put it back on doctor Fauci. So Fauci 461 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: looks like the victim, and so he can demand that 462 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: his critics be held accountable for their completely intemperate and 463 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: unfair behavior. And Fauci gets the opportunity to say, Oh, 464 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm just a scientist supporting the science. How dare someone 465 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 1: threatened to kill me? Nobody threatened to kill you. This 466 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: was about holding you accountable for your wise which, by 467 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: the way, the media continues to not hold you accountable. 468 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: When they make Fauci look like a victim, it makes 469 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: it harder for others to attack him because they say, oh, 470 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: look at all these illegitimate attacks he's getting. Look at 471 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: all these threats he's having to deal with. This is 472 00:27:55,000 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: a monstrous, monstrous example of direct and flay grant lack 473 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: of fairness in the media as it pertains to an 474 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: overarching story CNN lide. They got Fauci to lie based 475 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: on an altered clip and many people in the media 476 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: ran with it without taking the time to actually go 477 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: listen to what was legitimately said. It's everything that's wrong 478 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: with the media today. When we come back, I'll open 479 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: up the phone lines eight hundred two A two two 480 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: eight A two. I know we got some questions out there. 481 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: Got a Super Bowl question rolling in from one of 482 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: our VIPs at the EIB network. I'll answer that question. 483 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls as well. 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I know a 512 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,479 Speaker 1: lot of you already home with your families. You may 513 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: be escaping and listening to us. Maybe you're out getting 514 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: some last minute shopping in as you drive around your 515 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: cities and states. We appreciate all of you hanging out 516 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: with us, and we thank you for all of the 517 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: support you have shown us so far this year. Pretty 518 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: remarkable how committed you guys have been to Rush's legacy 519 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: and to allowing us to try and continue to fight 520 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: the battles that Rush cared about so much on a 521 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: day to day basis. We got recent numbers out there 522 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: and we're the number one show in our time slot 523 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: for ten different cities in America right now. I'm gonna 524 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 1: try to get them all right. I want to say 525 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: thank you. Continue to set new records every single month 526 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: for the overall podcast downloads, but right now San Diego, Sacramento, 527 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Phoenix, Memphis, Birmingham, Raleigh, Milwaukee, and two 528 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: other places out there that are escaping my name right now, 529 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: ten different cities that we are number one in, And 530 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: it is a tremendous I say, Phoenix. It is a 531 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: tremendous feeling to know how well you guys are responding 532 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: to everything that we are being able to bring to 533 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: you on a day to day basis. Phoenix in Houston, 534 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: I think are the two that I left off ten 535 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: Cities right now, and we thank you immensely for all 536 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: the support that you are showing us. Some news by 537 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: the way out there that is a little bit crazy 538 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: and continues to get more and more absurd. If you 539 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: are a Texas A and M fan. Texas A and 540 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: M has had to cancel their bowl game, their Gator 541 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: Bowl against Wake Forest because of COVID issues. During one 542 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: of the commercial breaks here, I was on the phone 543 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: talking with some people in the world of sports and 544 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: they were saying, look, Omicron is leading so many of 545 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: our vaccinated players to test positive now that it's going 546 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: to be really difficult to have college and pro seasons 547 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: as we currently do based on the sheer number of 548 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: positive cases that are emerging, even for people who are 549 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: double vaccinated and even for people who have boosters. And 550 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: the discussion that I had was we just have to 551 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: get back to normalcy. This is not going to go away. 552 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: And most of these people are either asymptomatic, are very 553 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: minimal symptoms at most, and if you actually look at 554 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: what's going on right now, this is going to continue 555 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: to be a larger and larger issue going forward. In fact, 556 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: it's a good question that we got from one of 557 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: our VIPs, John. He said, given the expansion of VAX mandates, passports, 558 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: max masking, etc. What do you think happens to the 559 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: super Bowl in California? Blessed Florida Governor Ron De Santis 560 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: for ensuring the twenty twenty one super Bowl was played. 561 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: I remember it was played in Tampa with as few 562 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: obstacles as possible. But how could Governor hair Do Aka 563 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: Newsom screw up the game in February of twenty twenty two. 564 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: I thinks the fantastic question. I think there's a very 565 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: real chance if you look at the data and you 566 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: look at the continued mandates and restrictions, that LA super Bowl, 567 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: because that's where it's going to take place in Theory 568 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: and the new stadium that the Rams and the Chargers 569 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: play in in LA and Inglewood, that LA super Bowl 570 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: is going to be in significant doubt in terms of 571 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: able to have a crowd, in terms of being able 572 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: to have the parties and the normal existence that surrounds 573 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, Which is why I started arguing last week. 574 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: I believe it was the NFL needs to move the 575 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: super Bowl out of LA and they need to put 576 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: it either in Florida, Texas, or maybe flip the super 577 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: Bowl in Arizona. If you feel good about the Phoenix 578 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: area being able to have a normal super Bowl because 579 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: next year Super Bowl is in Glendelle in the Phoenix area, 580 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: they could theoretically flip flop those give the super Bowl 581 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: to Glendell, allow the Phoenix area to have a full 582 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: crowd and not have to worry about Governor Newsom Garcetti 583 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: all of the imbeciles who are creating COVID obstacle after 584 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: COVID obstacle in the state of California from continuing to 585 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: influence in a negative way so many of the issues 586 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: that are going on right now. That's the solution that 587 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: may makes sense, is you move it out. I think 588 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: they're going to create a huge mess. You know, if 589 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: this was in Florida, Ron DeSantis would ensure whether they're 590 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: playing in Tampa, Jacksonville or Miami, that game would take 591 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: place and there'd be full crowds and bars and restaurants 592 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: would be hopping hotels. Same thing I believe with Greg 593 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: Abbott if that game were taking place in Jerry World 594 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: in Dallas. If they were playing in Houston, you know 595 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. You know what's gonna happen with 596 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: zero issues attached to it at all. But in LA 597 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: I just don't know. I'm scheduled to be out there 598 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: because I do a sports gambling show Fox bet Live. 599 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: I love to gamble on sports. We do a show 600 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: for that entire week from the l A Lot, and 601 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm scheduled to be out there. I'm gonna be doing 602 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: the radio show from there too, But I'm not that 603 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: confident that any sort of normal Super Bowl environment's gonna 604 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: be taking place out there. And when you consider that 605 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: places like New York, Chicago, Boston, LA, DC, San Francisco, 606 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 1: all those places now have vaccine mandates. In order to 607 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: get into a bar restaurant, you're supposed to be wearing 608 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: a mask. Now, if you go to Rams or Chargers 609 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: games supposed to have a vaccine mandate or a negative 610 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: test taken within twenty four hours, this is going to 611 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: be a real mess. I think it's a smart question 612 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,959 Speaker 1: that's being asked, and that's why I said last week 613 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: that if the NFL were being proactive as opposed to reactive, 614 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: they would go ahead and move that thing. I don't 615 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: think there's any doubt at all. All. Right, when we 616 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: come back in the third hour, we're gonna be joined 617 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: by Dick vermil He won a Super Bowl. Fantastic guy. 618 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: There's a great movie coming out this weekend called American Underdog. 619 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: I think you guys are really going to enjoy it. 620 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: It is the Sea Biscuit of football. I know Sea 621 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: Biscuit was one of Russia's favorite movies. Think you guys 622 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: are really going to enjoy that. I'm gonna open up 623 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: the phone lines. We'll take some of your calls in 624 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: the third hour of this program eight hundred two eight 625 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: two eight eight two. You guys can load them up 626 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: if you've missed any of the first two hours. Fantastic 627 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: stuff from David's Y, the Atlantic writer who said, hey, 628 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: there's zero evidence that masks work at all and wrote 629 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: a fantastic article about it. So many other issues we 630 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: got into. Go subscribe, give us five stars. 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