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Steve just mentioned there, Rob G. 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 4: Kyle Whittingham with the Utah Use for twenty one seasons, 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 4: now is the Michigan Wolverraines head football coach, and it 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 4: comes with the gains a lot of us success out 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 4: there in Utah. 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 5: Man, it's kind of surprising that that happened the way 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: it did, considering about a month and a half ago, 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 5: Kyle Winningham was trying to be forced into early retirement 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 5: by the people in Utah. They decided they'd had enough 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 5: of him. They want him to go out and kind 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 5: of leave them alone. And he said, I'm not retiring, 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 5: I'm kind of entering the transfer portal. All it took 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 5: was a Sharon Moore misstep to now he is the 22 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 5: new headman at Michigan. He got a five year deal 23 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 5: and at sixty six years old, brighter days, they're ahead 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 5: in ann Arbor. 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not buying this. All these young guys 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: out here, these young coaches. A sixty six year old guy, 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: you give him a five year contract. Thumbs down on this. 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: This is Pete Carroll two point zero and Winningham. No, 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: it's is a pork chop and a Deli sandwich and 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: ann Arborough away from uh from uh. 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: I'm not see how many ribs is? How many ribs is? 32 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: Rob Parker away? 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm Chris Rock and I'm gonna get 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: you sucker right? 35 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: One rib? How much for one rib? 36 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: You? 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: How are you gonna be ages? You're dag near the 38 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: same age, We're not even close to the same. Are 39 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: you any meaning? Your birthday is next month? How old 40 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: will you be? Brother? Nah, I'm talking about I'm not 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: gonna put you out there because you underground. 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 6: But seven of them saying sixty two, sixty three in January, No, sixty. 43 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: Two in January. He's a man of six. He's been 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: acting like this eighty six. He's been in Utah for 45 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: twenty one years? Are you? 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: Nothing good has ever come out of Utah? Can you 47 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: give me something the good that's come out of Utah 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: twenty one years. 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: That's the best Michigan can do. 50 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 6: Johnny Utah from point yeah, that's the best Michigan could do. 51 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: A sixty six year old guy as their head coach 52 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: and give that guy a five year contract, taking him 53 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: into his seventies. 54 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 3: That's a bad liars. 55 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 4: Here's here's why I think it'll work for exactly that 56 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: duration of the contract, three to five years. Here's why 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: do I think this is Obviously you got your your 58 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: your twenty years ago, Nick Saban, give or take no. 59 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 4: But what I think you do have is a guy 60 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: who all of a sudden can get this thing right 61 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 4: because he has been very successful in Utah. I mean 62 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: undefeated seasons in two seasons, beating USC, beating all the 63 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: Pac twelve teams he had to beat. 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: That's why. That's why I asked him. 65 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: That's why he entered the because they didn't think why, 66 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: they didn't want to make. 67 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: I wanna tell you, and that's perfectly fine because things 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 4: run their course. 69 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: We talk about this all the time. 70 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin hasn't had a bad season, but it might 71 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 4: be time to go away. You talk about John Harpo 72 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 4: hasn't really had a bad season, but it might be 73 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: time to go away. 74 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: It happens. Twenty one season with anyone is a long time. 75 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 4: So I think the given what he has been able 76 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: to do for so many years in Utah, make them 77 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: a very relevant team, always in the top twenty, always 78 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 4: the top fifteen for that times. And then you have 79 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 4: it now with Michigan's and dominated resources, with Michigan's ability 80 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: to get some commitments. 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say. I just got a text 82 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: from Charles Barkley. He said, two good things did come 83 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: out of Utah. You ready, John starked in and called 84 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: them alone. All right, Charles, you might have that. 85 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: Right, that's the best. That's the best that came out 86 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: of Utah right there. 87 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: That's about it. I'm sorry. Nothing else. You can't even 88 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: get a drink in a bar in Utah, you know 89 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: that side like city. 90 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: You ain't lying about that, listen. That's and that might 91 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: be why he didn't want to call it quits. He 92 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: might still have some party in them and some going 93 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 4: on the drinking them. Come on out to somewhere else. 94 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 4: Can't do that in Utah. But I think this is 95 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 4: absolutely a stopgap Rob. I don't think they found their 96 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 4: guy of the future. They didn't find their twenty year 97 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 4: stretch guy. They're still looking for that. But this is 98 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: a guy who could come in. He's known for discipline, 99 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 4: he's known for physicality, which are two things that would 100 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 4: go well. 101 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: In that harbor. 102 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: And if he can do what he did in Utah 103 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 4: with the resources and the and the commitments and recruits, 104 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: he should be able to get. With that big blue 105 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: Michigan behind him, he should do very well. 106 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just a national title, all right? 107 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: Is he gonna win one? 108 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: If you would have give if you would, if you 109 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: would have say to me, he's gonna he's gonna win 110 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: a national championship. I can't buy it. Ohio State's there, 111 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere. They still have a Yo. 112 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: Vibe about the way this year Indiana about the b K. 113 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but they have a young, vibrant coach. They 114 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: don't have some old man who's sixty six years old. 115 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Oregon's rolling where where they. 116 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: Want champions Chan going out of here. This age ism 117 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: from you. 118 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 4: I'll give you the seventy the seventy threes, Bill Belichick, 119 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 4: the seventy fours and the Pete Carrolls and all that. 120 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: I'll give you that. What is the No, we're in 121 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: the same high school together. 122 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: No, we were not. 123 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: You know we were was a senior. You don't know. 124 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: If he got held back one time, he might be a. 125 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: Superasy average retirement age in the United States, do you know. 126 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: What it is? 127 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 6: Yes, seventy two? Nowadays it's sixty five. It ain't sixty 128 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 6: five no more? Who is it's seven o five. He's 129 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 6: already sixty six. And they gave him a five year 130 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 6: retirement pack. Hey, and listen to what they gave him. 131 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 6: And Nick Saban said, I'm coming back to Alabama. They 132 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 6: would kick the boar out of there so fast and 133 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 6: tell him come on back. 134 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: And he's seventy some years old. I'm with you on 135 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 4: the Pete Carrolls and the moves like that. Sixty six 136 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: for a three to five year runway, it can work. 137 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 138 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 139 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 140 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: listen live. Hi, this is Jay. 141 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 7: I'm the producer of the Paula and Toni Fusco show. 142 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 7: Usually in these promos they asked you to listen to 143 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 7: the show. I'm here to ask you please don't listen 144 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 7: to the show. The hosts are two absolute morons who 145 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 7: have the dumbest takes on sports, imagicable. Don't listen to 146 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 7: the show so it can get camps. 147 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: Get him. 148 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: Fool. 149 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 5: Listen to the Tony Fusco Show on the iHeartRadio app 150 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 5: or wherever you get your podcasts. 151 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 3: He's still moving. Let me tell you what I had 152 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: right and what did you have? 153 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 7: Uh? 154 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: The idea about Jared Goff, I've been telling you this 155 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: for a while and I don't care what the numbers are. 156 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: I heard Colin Cowherd talk about Jared Golf doesn't get 157 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: consideration despite his numbers with the long quarterback or whatever, and. 158 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: People I get it. Puts up coming into the game. 159 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: I think he had thirty two touchdowns rob g check 160 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: me from wrong, and just five interceptions correct. But of 161 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: course here was yet another big game where he went 162 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: to bed. He did it last year after getting the 163 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: number one seed in the NFC. Taking on a rookie quarterback, 164 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: he turned the ball over four times right, four times, 165 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: three interceptions and a fumble. 166 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: Here he is. 167 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: He has five of the Lions six turnovers. We talked 168 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: about the Lions did they had more turnovers than the 169 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: bakery yesterday against the third string quarterback who robbed g 170 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: had the net yards passing yards of negative three? Is 171 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: that what it was? Negative of three yards? Net passing 172 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: yards of three yards Calvin in a game just to 173 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: keep their hopes alive, right, It didn't mean you made 174 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs, by right? 175 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 3: I mean, if they couldn't happen, you gotta at least 176 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: win it against the nobody. 177 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: The guy only had like forty one yards, am I 178 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: righthar was a fifty one yards rob g passing fifty 179 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: one yards. 180 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: But no, he has five turnovers. 181 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: If you want to know why he became available to 182 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, it's because and remember the Lions got 183 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: a lot of picks in it too, I get it right. 184 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: But the reason that they, the Rams who went to 185 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with Jared Golf moved on is they 186 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: couldn't believe this guy can't win a big game for them. 187 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: That was what they believed. And if you have not 188 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: watched the last couple of years and you're still not convinced, 189 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: if I'm the Lions. 190 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: Hello, is this on? 191 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: I would do whatever I could in my power to 192 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: move off of Jared Golf. He's not going to get 193 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: you where you're trying to go, where you win games, 194 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: Yes you will. Will you be in the mix somehow, 195 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: some way, Yes you will. But the ultimate goal in Detroit, 196 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: who was never right, which has never won a super Bowl, 197 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: is to win the Super Bowl. I am convinced a 198 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 1: thousand percent that Jared Goff will never win you a 199 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: super Bowl. And even if they have to eat the 200 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: contract like they did with Russell Wilson, look at the Broncos. 201 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: They took an unbelievable hit to walk away from Russell 202 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: Wilson and guess where they are fighting for the number 203 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: one seed in the AFC with a chance with that defense, 204 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: a chance to get to the super Bowl. 205 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: That's rue. 206 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: At some point you have to be honest and look 207 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: at a guy and goal he's good. He can get 208 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: me to a certain place. It happens with coaches all 209 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: the time. Came when we talk about it. This coach 210 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: got me here, he can't get me over the hump, 211 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: and sometimes you gotta make it. 212 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: Probably the greatest move in NFL history, one of. 213 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: What's when the Tampa Bay Bucks said to Tony Dungee, 214 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: thank you, but. 215 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 3: We've had enough, and they hired John Gruden. 216 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: And guess what With Tony Dungee's team, John Gruden won 217 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: that franchise a Super Bowl. Don't be afraid of the unknown, 218 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: be afraid of the known. 219 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: And that is what you need to be afraid of. 220 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 3: Be afraid of the known. 221 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: The known is that Jared Golf can't win a big 222 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: game when you need it. It's happened way too often 223 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: for a guy who's put up the kind of numbers 224 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: that he's put up. Detroit Lions, don't be satisfied. You 225 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: still have a good nucleus, but. 226 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 3: You're not gonna win anything with Jared Golf. I'm convinced 227 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: of that couple. Okay, so a couple of things. 228 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 4: Jared Goff has been for a guy who was traded for, 229 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: a guy who people thought was just gonna be a 230 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: guy that obviously, if you're lines, you get this guy 231 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 4: in the trade, he'll go away in a year or 232 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 4: two and you'll move on. 233 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: Has all of a sudden been a part of the 234 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: rebuild of Detroit. He's been part of the turnaround of Detroit. 235 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: He has been as you know, for being there for 236 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: twenty years, the only time in my life except for 237 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 4: maybe a year or so in like mid nineties, where 238 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: being in a super Bowl or having Super Bowl aspirations 239 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: were absolutely warranted the last two or three years. And so, 240 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: while I admit, and I said this to you guys 241 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 4: about three four weeks ago, the Lion's window with Jared 242 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: Goff is very it is very close to being closed. 243 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 4: I agree, and I said this because of this. Jared 244 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 4: Goff is exceptionally talented. When everything is exactly aligned. When 245 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 4: everything is aligned with him, you know what you get. 246 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: You get second and passing yards, second and passing touchdowns, 247 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 4: third and passer rating tied for fifth lowest interceptions. You'll 248 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 4: get that year after year after year when things are 249 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: perfectly aligned. And to his credit, he did do that 250 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 4: this year when things were not in line, because this 251 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: season had a bunch of injuries. This season had a 252 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: bunch of miscalculations by his own coach put him in 253 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 4: bad spots. The challenge with Jared Goff is rob and 254 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 4: I said this a few weeks ago. He is the 255 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 4: last of a dying breed. Stand in the pocket, take one, two, three, four, 256 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: step back. Somebody has to be open. 257 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 3: He can't. 258 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: Dan Campbell I was shocked he said this publicly at 259 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 4: laughter last night's game. He said, if he can't put 260 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 4: his back foot down, if he can't step forward, well 261 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 4: it's gonna be hard for him because he doesn't have 262 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: Caleb williams es capability and talent and just pure sheer athleticism. 263 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 4: He doesn't have it like a Jared Jordan Love He 264 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 4: you mentioned Bo Nicks. He doesn't have a Josh Allen, 265 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, almost Drake May. Almost every quarterback SAMs for 266 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: maybe four Our mobile, our athletic can get out of 267 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: the pocket, can create things. So when sometimes it's not 268 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 4: a great design, go make something happen. Jarrett Goff ain't 269 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: that So if the Lions, who don't want to take 270 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: a cap hit of I think it's almost ninety eight 271 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 4: million dollars this offseason, if they were just a you know, 272 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: let him go, and you mentioned the Russell Wilson which 273 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: was like eighty million, then they're gonna be stuck with him. 274 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 4: And the thing they have to do is say this 275 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 4: is our guy. We're second, second, third, fifth, lowis with him. 276 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: They have to have the top one, two or three 277 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: offensive line. Rob, that's it. You have to otherwise it 278 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: is going to implode in your face because he cannot 279 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 4: be good or even solid if he's not protected. You 280 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 4: have to have the top three offensive line with Jared Goff. 281 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: There's no other way around it, because then you can 282 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: have a running game and it protects him as well. 283 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 4: If you're not gonna protect him with the running game, 284 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: which they didn't really last quarter of the season, and 285 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 4: if you're not gonna protect them with the offensive line 286 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 4: where you see teams pressure in him almost forty percent 287 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: pressure on every drop back, he's not gonna be successful. 288 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 4: He's gonna have games like that and it's gonna cost 289 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: you as a team. So I think they're gonna come 290 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 4: back next season because next season, Rob after it. Then 291 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 4: he drops down the Nigga's upper twenties twenty eight twenty 292 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: nine million dollars to cap it. That's much more feasible, 293 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 4: much more realistic. 294 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: And so I think that we just saw Russell wi 295 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: Russell Wilson was eighty five million. 296 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: I mean, and I get you on the money, but 297 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: I think that's a massive gamble. Thats we know teams 298 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: don't want to take they just took it. Sean Payton 299 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 4: convinced him they obviously they couldn't go on. There was 300 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: a rift between them. Golf and Dan Campbell love each other. 301 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not about It's not about whether I 302 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: like the guy or not. 303 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: How many big games you can't even be the third 304 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: string quarterback who threw for fifty one yards and I 305 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: get the pressure and the offensive line. 306 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: Okay, I get that. 307 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to act like everything is perfect, but 308 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: that's not how football is. Everything's not gonna be perfect 309 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: for you, and you gotta be able to adjust. Even 310 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: in watching that game, there were throws there when he 311 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: had protection in some time and he missed those. 312 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 4: I mean, because you know, you know what that reminds 313 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 4: me of. That's a good point. That reminds me of CJ. Stroud, 314 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: and that reminds me of two At times. There's a 315 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: handful of quarterbacks this year who have been running for 316 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: their life, and what happens is you start to have 317 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: PTSD even when it's not there. You start freaking out, 318 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 4: even when the play is actually there, step up in 319 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 4: the pocket, make the throw. Lamar Jackson has had that 320 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 4: sometimes where you're just panicking when it's not even time 321 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 4: to panic. 322 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: The pocket was good, and that's. 323 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: What happens when you've been running, especially for a guy 324 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 4: like a Jared Goff who is not able to escape, 325 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: other guys can escape. Justin Herbert has been escaping more 326 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: this year than I've seen his whole dagone career, because 327 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: he's like, Hey, if it's a play to be made, 328 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to make it, I'm gonna have to 329 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: take it. 330 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: And I think that is gonna be the standard now. 331 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 4: It's like a big man in the NBA rop back 332 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 4: in the day, if all you could do is dunk 333 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 4: and block a shot. Cool, come on up here, big 334 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: seven footer. Now, if you can't shoot past Tripple as 335 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: a big man, you're useless. Okay, you can't win, be 336 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: and beat me and yokich me. And I think Jared 337 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: Goff is the last of that breed quarterbacks who are 338 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: only good on the drop back and that's it. And 339 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 4: I think the Lions are going to have to move 340 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: on in the next after next year. 341 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: So you're convinced like I am, that he can't win 342 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl for you next year, is they're only here. 343 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 344 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 345 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 346 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 347 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: Well, you know who's feeling PTSD this evening is every 348 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 5: Laker fan in Los Angeles because the team sucks right now. 349 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 5: They got blowed out three straight games. They lost six 350 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 5: of their last ten. Hey yeah, and it was so 351 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 5: bad that after the game, JJ Reddick, very mild mannered 352 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 5: JJ Reddick, as you know, went scorched earth entire roster. 353 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: Take a listen. 354 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 8: Two words of the day we're effort and execution. And 355 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 8: you know, I feel like when we've done both of 356 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 8: those things at a high level, we've been a good 357 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 8: basketball team. And we haven't. We're a terrible basketball team. 358 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 8: And tonight we were a terrible basketball team. And that 359 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 8: started legitimately right away because we don't care enough right now. 360 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 8: And that's that's the part that bothers you a lot. 361 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 8: We don't care enough to like do the things that 362 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 8: are necessary. We don't care enough to be a professional. 363 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: You know, we had it, We had it. 364 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 8: This is this is I always say this about you, 365 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 8: know culture. I always say this about a team being 366 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 8: a you know, a good team being a functioning organism. 367 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 8: Can it can change like that? We don't have it 368 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 8: right now. Again, it goes back to what I said 369 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 8: the other night. It's it's a matter of making the choice, 370 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 8: and too often we have guys that don't want to 371 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 8: make that choice. And it's pretty consistent who those guys are. 372 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 8: And so Saturday practice I told the guys it's going 373 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 8: to be uncomfortable. The meeting is going to be uncomfortable. 374 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 8: I'm not doing another fifty three games like this. 375 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 3: I got a couple of things real quick. Calvin h Yeah. 376 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: First, and Rob G you said you heard the rust 377 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: of the US conference, right, It was just a quick 378 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: little blip. 379 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: I'm you know what teas journalism at USC. 380 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: I would not allow JJ Reddick to get up there 381 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: and paint a broad bush. 382 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 3: Who are you talking about? Jj? Is it Luca? 383 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: Is it Lebron? Is it Austin Reeves? You gotta tell 384 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: me who you're talking about. Okay, this whole notion about 385 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 1: they know who they are? 386 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 3: Who are they? Okay? He's on twice to Rob, You're right, 387 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, man, stop it. 388 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: What reporters are sitting there allowing him to not have 389 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: to say, say Lebron's name. I want to hear it 390 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: out of your mouth, say Luca out of your mouth. 391 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: And this guy is another He's a feat, a fraud, 392 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: and a hypocrite. Doc Rivers three two. Three years ago, 393 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: he ripped Doc Rivers on ESPN on first take about 394 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: not being accountable and always making excuses. 395 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: And here he is. You got three guys in. 396 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: A starting lineup, right, who can't play defense, who won't 397 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: play defense. But have you made a change, Kelvin, have 398 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: you sat somebody down and said, rob g, what's the 399 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: stat don't they have? Like those three guys together defensively 400 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: is as bad as it gets in the NBA? 401 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got what's worse is that they're starting lineup, 402 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 5: so you include those three guys. I got Luca, Lebron, 403 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 5: Austin Reeves, Ruyachimurra DeAndre in seventy six minutes entering Christmas. 404 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 5: We only got worse on Christmas, right, the Lakers starting 405 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 5: lineup and outscored by fifteen points, allowing one hundred and 406 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 5: twenty point seven points for under possessions that would rank 407 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 5: worse than every NBA defense except the Jazz and the 408 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 5: Wizards who are. 409 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 3: Trying to lose and kell the Net's My point is, 410 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: you have this data. Okay, you know what this is. 411 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: If you're really trying to coach and make a difference, Lebron, 412 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: sit down, Austin Reeves like that together. 413 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: You guys can't play together. 414 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to break this up and put somebody 415 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: in there defensively who maybe not the offensive weapon, right, 416 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: but we need somebody to make some stops. 417 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: You can't keep doing this. We know what Lebron is. 418 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 1: Did you watch the play yesterday where he stopped his 419 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: foot and yelled at the referee and didn't run. 420 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: Back like time out? 421 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: JJ I dare you to call time out and pull 422 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: Lebron out of the game. 423 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: I dare you? 424 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 3: What doesn't happen? Luca? Oh look how great he is. 425 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: The people who think that Luca is in the MVP conversation, dude, 426 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: one dimensional and all. He doesn't even try to play defense. 427 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: He ain't no damn MVP. I'm sorry what ever's saying. 428 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves is in the All Star consideration. But we 429 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: got some breaking news right now, Rob g. 430 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, just in the last fifteen minutes or so, it 431 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 5: was really revealed that Austin Reeves has a grade two 432 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 5: left casting will be a real re evaluating approximately four weeks, 433 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 5: so you won't see that starting lineup anymore, Rob, So. 434 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 3: You aren't gonna see that. But but Rob sold a 435 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 3: couple of things. I'm gonna jump in here. 436 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 4: You mentioned a couple of things I want to touch on, 437 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: Rob g out of the stats that I was gonna 438 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: bring here. If you're JJ Reddick, I'm seeing you us 439 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 4: through out the same lineup seven times already this season. 440 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 3: That ain't doing nothing. That's on you. 441 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 4: You know that the definition of insanity is doing the 442 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 4: same thing over and over thinking a different outcome. That's 443 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 4: you running out this same lineup. That is you running 444 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 4: out of lineup. That's a given. You got a forty 445 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 4: one year old who we know can't play defense, and 446 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 4: it's almost impossible for you even ask him to play 447 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 4: defense at the Raking, which you needed. 448 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: We have a Luka Donciz who has never been known 449 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 3: to play defense. 450 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 4: And now you have those who play together and in 451 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: Austin Reeves, and what do we like to bring up 452 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 4: all the time, Austin Reeves is the guy the other 453 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 4: teams pick at. 454 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 3: That's the guy they go at. So you've got three 455 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 3: of them in the same lineup at the same time. 456 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 4: And DeAndre Ayton, who is not an overwhelmingly a dynamic 457 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: big man who blocks shots, changing shots and is an 458 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 4: enforcer that ain't his thing. 459 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: And then Ruey is the middle of the way defender, 460 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 3: not bad, not great. So that's your starting lineup. 461 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 4: You've got a few guys on the bench who compete, 462 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: who put effort. Marcus Smart, we know that that's literally 463 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 4: where he's made his fame name and acclaim he claim 464 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 4: to fame. And also you got Vanderbilt, that's what he 465 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 4: does as well. So some of the guys who played 466 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 4: great defense. You got also gave Vinchin, who's an effort 467 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: guy and not say he's a great defender. You have 468 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: all them on the bench, and that's to me the issue. 469 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 4: Mix it up, bring someone off the bench. Maybe you 470 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 4: have to have a grown up conversation with Lebron. It 471 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 4: might be better if you come up the bench. Also, 472 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 4: Lebron has some of the worst defensive ratings in this season, 473 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 4: and we know that. So JJ acting as if he's 474 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 4: baffled by this. What another name he needs to throw 475 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 4: out there if he's gonna start throwing our names is 476 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 4: Rob Polinker, Rob Linker. We see what's working in the NBA. 477 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 4: It's a bunch of young, energetic guys, don't care. They 478 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 4: play ten minutes to twenty minutes. Is like line shifts 479 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 4: in hockey. I can throw in four to five guys. 480 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 4: They're gonna come at max effort. That's what's working in 481 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 4: the NBA. 482 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 3: And we don't have that. Rop Polinka. You see what 483 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 3: trends are happening. You did not adjust. 484 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 4: So if he really also wants to throw some names 485 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 4: out there, you ask for Lebron, you ask for Luca 486 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: to be called out. Austin Reeves, call out Ropolnka as well, 487 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 4: JJ Reddick because that line, that team as constructed, ain't 488 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 4: gonna compete with the top notch teams in the NBA 489 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 4: at all. 490 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. 491 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 4: And uh, they're letting teams score a rap one twenty five, 492 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 4: one thirty five regularly, not like every once in a while. 493 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 4: Regularly teams are putting a one to twenty one to 494 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 4: thirty on them. 495 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 3: No doubt, all right, Uh, just a bad it's it's bad, 496 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: but JJ just kills me. I just this is the 497 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 3: guy who's gonna know it all. He invented basketball. 498 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: And as you said, keep putting out all the same 499 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: exact lineup and and take accountability. A guy, you know, 500 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: say accountability. He's the one to whip Doc and he wouldn't. 501 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: I'll dock his always excuses. His excuse is he's gonna 502 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: blame just the players do a better job, make some 503 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: lineup changes, put some defenders in. 504 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 3: You can't just keep playing the same people and then 505 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: you're acting. 506 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: You really expect Lebron James all of a sudden play 507 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: defense at forty one years old. 508 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: Come on, man, scheme something up, Scheme something up. 509 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 4: If you know, Rob, if I know I don't have 510 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 4: ball on man defenders, then I'm gonna have to We're 511 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 4: gonna have to have We've seen the Dallas Mavericks. 512 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 3: You gotta do something right. 513 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 4: Exactly when they had Dirk and some other guys, they 514 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 4: were like, we know we don't have the best. They 515 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 4: would run some zone out at there at times two 516 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 4: three zone three two zones, mix it up, some run 517 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 4: different plays like schematically switch it up, because if that's 518 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: what you got, that's what you got