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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to another episode of the Action

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Speaker 1: Network NFL podcast. I am Matthew Friedman, the editor in

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Speaker 1: chief of Fantasy Labs. I'm joined by a Hart. It's

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Speaker 1: Network analyst. You can follow him in the Action Network

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Speaker 1: app at iHeart it Ian. We have taken about ten

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Speaker 1: days off from the podcast to more than the demise,

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Speaker 1: the untimely departure of the Alliance of American Football. This

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Speaker 1: past weekend was our first in months with no football.

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Speaker 1: I have to say it was. It was relaxing, you know,

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Speaker 4: and the mail yesterday Curtsy of Amazon dot com, so

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Speaker 4: It looks like both of us just use our free

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Speaker 1: We are one month removed from free agency. The NFL

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Speaker 1: Breaking news. As I'm recording this, Producer, I'm letting the

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Speaker 1: The NFL has just granted it's thirty third franchise to

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Speaker 1: the wonderful but not well known municipality of Green Dot City.

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Speaker 3: I have been named the general manager.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it was the only decision, and I'm deciding

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Speaker 3: Ian, let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Your piece at Action Network, very extensive and looking at

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Speaker 4: So yeah, again, I don't love the fantasy outlook for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to be Crowder. I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, have similar thoughts with like David and Djoki, where

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, Andrew Luck and Aaron Rodgers both still pretty elite quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I was shocked to see this.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you on both of those counts. One

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Speaker 1: I think both of those guys for best ball Leagues

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Speaker 4: I know there is, like there's theoretically a number two

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Speaker 4: So I mean, we'll see if the price is right

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Speaker 1: He basically had to play within a total target vacuum

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was cute that season when the

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Speaker 3: transition was happening.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, but let's uh, let let's talk about

444
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Speaker 1: this Ian fire some questions at me.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm taking a stance here as like an

446
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Speaker 4: outside consultant for this team that Matt has created it.

447
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Speaker 4: We're in an analytics consultant on this exactly. So I

448
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Speaker 4: love the inspiration. I think Matt's ad reads have been

449
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Speaker 4: getting me pumped up more than just about anything else

450
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Speaker 4: over the last couple of months. But his intro to

451
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Speaker 4: this story was right there with an ad read in

452
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Speaker 4: terms of a pure heart and just you know, really

453
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Speaker 4: loving loving the job. So hats off to you there, Matt.

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Speaker 4: But first question I have here, I couldn't help a

455
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Speaker 4: notice that not in Rob Gronkowski is serving as the

456
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Speaker 4: head athletic trainer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

458
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Speaker 4: Is this a way to, I guess, have a more

459
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Speaker 4: care free coach there, or are you just thinking ten

460
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Speaker 4: steps ahead and saying, hey, Gronks will come out of

461
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Speaker 4: retirement and then we're gonna have one of the best

462
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Speaker 4: tight ends in the league.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I don't want to uh, I don't

464
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Speaker 1: want to be you know, presumptuous or tip too much

465
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Speaker 1: of you know, my hand here. But I will say

466
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Speaker 1: it never hurts to have too much excellence around a team,

467
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Speaker 1: you know, So even if it's just him in the

468
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Speaker 1: weight room, you know, encouraging guys or you know, kind

469
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Speaker 1: of talking to the tight ends about things they can

470
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Speaker 1: be doing, showing guys how to be you know, professional

471
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Speaker 1: while still having fun. You know, like, I think there

472
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Speaker 1: are lots of ways in which he could contribute. But yeah,

473
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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's if it's a team that starts winning,

474
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Speaker 1: you know, he starts getting the itch to want to

475
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Speaker 1: play again. I know the Patriots still hold the rights

476
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Speaker 1: to him, but yeah, I mean, you know, it might

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Speaker 1: be possible if he wants to come out of retirement

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Speaker 1: to to trade for him, you know, acquire acquire him

479
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Speaker 1: for you know, a third round or fourth round or

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Speaker 1: whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Uh So, yeah, you know, just just

482
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Speaker 3: kind of kind of trying to keep the door open there.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, all right, And so your offensive coordinator is

484
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Speaker 4: none other than Tony Romo. Yes, how many games into

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Speaker 4: this season do you think we'll have seen enough of

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Speaker 4: Sam Bradford and or Colin Kaepernick to just say, hey, Tony,

487
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Speaker 4: put the helmet back on.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: What do you got?

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah. So, so a few things.

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Speaker 1: One, Tony Romo will definitely want to give up the

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Speaker 1: television gig to come be the offensive coordinator for this

493
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Speaker 1: team because Green Dot City is just such a fantastic

494
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Speaker 1: place to live. And second of all, he will be

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Speaker 1: given the keys to the kingdom in a couple of

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Speaker 1: years when head coach Steve Spurrier retires. So, just to

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Speaker 1: kind of get that out there, yes, it is entirely

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Speaker 1: realistic for Tony Romo to be the offensive coordinator of

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Speaker 1: my fictional team. Secondly, yes, as you may, Bradford and Kaepernick,

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Speaker 1: those are mine too. Those are my two quarterbacks. That

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Speaker 1: is the quarterback battle. I should say I slotted in

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Speaker 1: Bradford first, and then upon consulting with you, you suggested

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Speaker 1: that I look at Kaepernick, and I think that's the

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Speaker 1: right call to h To create the atmosphere in which

505
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Speaker 1: those two guys have to compete against each other, one

506
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Speaker 1: of them has to win.

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Speaker 3: I should say I.

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Speaker 1: Think Romo with Spurrier could create offensive systems that suit

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Speaker 1: either guy, and so I have so much faith in that, uh,

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Speaker 1: that play calling and a scheme creating combination that I

511
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Speaker 1: think that Bradford and Kaepernick, whoever becomes the starter, could

512
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Speaker 1: have success. So I don't think Romo will want to

513
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Speaker 1: return to the field because he's going to be so

514
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Speaker 1: good as an of coordinator. I think Bradford. Looking at

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Speaker 1: Bradford versus Kaepernick, Bradford I think has I don't know,

516
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Speaker 1: I feel like he's a little bit safer, but I

517
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Speaker 1: feel like he is also probably going to get injured

518
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Speaker 1: at some point. Kaepernick, I think has much higher of

519
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Speaker 1: a ceiling. But there's also the question like is he

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Speaker 1: going to be in football shape. He hasn't played in

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Speaker 1: a couple of years. You know, he was never the

522
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Speaker 1: most accurate type of passer, but you know, I think

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Speaker 1: accuracy can be schemed, you know, just depending on the

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Speaker 1: play calling and things like that. So I think thinking

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Speaker 1: of Bradford versus Kaepernick is interesting. It would be because

526
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Speaker 1: they're two very different types of players. The systems you

527
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Speaker 1: would run would be different. So I think that would

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Speaker 1: be a very great and compelling quarterback competition.

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Speaker 4: I'm more inclined to lean towards Kaepernick here mainly because, yes,

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Speaker 4: in a perfect system with really good receivers, I do

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Speaker 4: think Bradford is a better option. I think we saw

532
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Speaker 4: that in Minnesota, especially those first game and a half,

533
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Speaker 4: and I think it was twenty sixteen or seventeen when

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Speaker 4: he got hurt, like the whole season, but absolutely tore

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Speaker 4: it up week one. And I would look in really

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Speaker 4: good with Stephan Diggs and Adam Feeling. But we don't

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Speaker 4: have Stefan Diggs and Adam Feeling. We'll get to that,

538
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Speaker 4: bro right. We got a late forties Torell Owens, and

539
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Speaker 4: you know some all Jack Robinson, Jeff Jannis, a wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: So I love all these guys. I'm not trying to

541
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Speaker 4: hate on them. But give me the quarterback who has

542
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Speaker 4: establish himself as one of the best rushers that the

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Speaker 4: position has ever seen, and that has more of a

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Speaker 4: chance of helping us when to play inevitably breaks down.

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Speaker 4: With all due respect to our agent offensive line and

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Speaker 4: Tony romo'so G.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: We need more of a Yolo approach on the offense.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Kaepernick is a playmaker. He is the

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Speaker 1: type of guy who can't create something out of nothing

551
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Speaker 1: with his legs and real quick.

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Speaker 4: Before we leave the quarterback position, we got to mention

553
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Speaker 4: the developmental player and Johnny Football.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like, what do I really have

556
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Speaker 1: to lose, you know, need I need to take some shots.

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Speaker 3: I need to swing big.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Romo and Spurrier would be too good

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Speaker 1: eyes to, you know, to mentor Manziel. You know, Spurrier

560
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Speaker 1: as someone who is I think something of like a

561
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Speaker 1: loose cannon, and I think Manziel could sort of like

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Speaker 1: resonate with that. But like Spurier is someone who has

563
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Speaker 1: had success, you know, like someone who is still like

564
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Speaker 1: very professional and very into football. And then Romo as

565
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Speaker 1: a guy who had to sit on the bench for

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Speaker 1: years in Dallas before getting his shot. I think that

567
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Speaker 1: could be something that would be good for Manziel to

568
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Speaker 1: kind of have that perspective. So yeah, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take a shot on him. It probably won't work,

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Speaker 1: but you know, that's just how it is with lots

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Speaker 1: of players. It doesn't work for lots of players. You

572
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Speaker 1: take your shot on them, you move on.

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be like a new twenty four to seven

574
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Speaker 4: News station to come.

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Speaker 2: Just track this team.

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Speaker 4: Spurrier, Kaepernick, Manzel every single days could be its own TV.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's part of it too. You know, we

578
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Speaker 3: h for sure excited about this team.

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Speaker 2: Okay, running back, your feature back is Jay Jay.

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Speaker 4: I agree with it. I think he would already be

581
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Speaker 4: on a team right now. I'm guessing money issue and

582
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Speaker 4: just coming off that ACL injury. His knees have been

583
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Speaker 4: long term concerns, but hey, he's a free agent. We've

584
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Speaker 4: seen the upside. I'm with you there now for the

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Speaker 4: number two bag. Right now, you have spencer Ware. Explain

586
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Speaker 4: to me why we have spencer Ware over TJ.

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Speaker 2: Yelden.

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Speaker 1: So, Yelden is interesting, but I don't think he's as

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Speaker 1: good of a runner as spencer Ware is, and where

590
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Speaker 1: has like he's done it before. He has a thirteen

591
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Speaker 1: hundred yard campaign to his name. I think he's a

592
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Speaker 1: strong number two option and he's not as good of

593
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Speaker 1: a receiver as Yelden is, but he's close to it,

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Speaker 1: Like he still has like that skill set within his arsenal.

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Speaker 1: So he's a three down option, whereas I just I

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Speaker 1: don't see Yelden as actually being a three down guy.

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Speaker 1: I just see him being kind of like a bigger

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Speaker 1: bodied receiving back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fair.

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Speaker 4: I was looking more at Yelden for his receiving but

601
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Speaker 4: where has objectively been a much better rusher in their careers.

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Speaker 4: Saw some reports that Yeoden was visiting the Patriots, which

603
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Speaker 4: would just add an entire other obstacle of that situation.

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Speaker 4: So you might have picked the right running back to

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Speaker 4: be on the team for the time being.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the thing is, I also went with Darren

607
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Speaker 1: Sproles as my receiving back option, and I think Sproles

608
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Speaker 1: is one of the best receiving backs and even returnment

609
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Speaker 1: of the past decade for the NFL. So I think

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Speaker 1: he just adds a little more, a little more versatility

611
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Speaker 1: and like out of what I would want from Yelden,

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Speaker 1: I think he's better than Yelden at that.

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Speaker 4: I hope the Bills sign Sproles. Let's get Shady Gore

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Speaker 4: Sproles on one backfield?

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00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: Why not?

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Speaker 3: All right?

617
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Speaker 4: Moving on the wide receiver, I think these are my

618
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Speaker 4: two favorite players in the whole team Fantasy football Twitter

619
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Speaker 4: is all too familiar with both of them, Jeff Janis

620
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Speaker 4: and Lord Aldrich Robinson. Lord Aldrich is a ninetieth percentile

621
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Speaker 4: spark X athlete Janis is ninety eighth. These guys look

622
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Speaker 4: incredible on paper. They even look incredible on the field.

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Speaker 4: It just can't seem to get on the field. I

624
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Speaker 4: just want to point out real quick before I over

625
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Speaker 4: to you, Matt Aldrick Robinson scored five touchdowns and fourteen

626
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Speaker 4: games with the Vikings in twenty eighteen. La Kwan Trubble

627
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Speaker 4: has one touchdown in forty games with the Vikings since

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Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. So get this guy a job, and I'm

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Speaker 4: happy that you took the initiative to do just that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, in the old days at Rotoz,

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Speaker 1: I was like Aldrick Robinson, Like I think he was

632
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Speaker 1: one of the first guys I wrote about there, like

633
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Speaker 1: back in the day when he was young. So he's

634
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Speaker 1: someone I've I've always been interested in, you know, situational

635
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: deep threat. But I think like every team needs like

636
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Speaker 1: that veteran speedster, you know, like someone who can stretch

637
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Speaker 1: the field. He's not an every down type of receiver

638
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: who's out there. You use him in specialized situations. But yeah,

639
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean last year, as you mentioned, five touchdowns on

640
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: just thirty five targets like that's a lot of bang

641
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Speaker 1: for your butt. So he's, you know, a professional who's

642
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: been around some good coaching staffs. You know, been around

643
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Speaker 1: several different teams. So I like what he adds from

644
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Speaker 1: a veteran presence and what he can do on the field.

645
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: And then Jeff janis of course, like I mean, you know,

646
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Speaker 1: I need to take some shots. He's you know, he's

647
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Speaker 1: a developmental receiver, but at a minimum, he is a

648
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: very good special teams gunner, you know what I mean.

649
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Speaker 4: And we now have that Bleacher Report information that Jeff

650
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: Gannis will listen to the coaching staff ahead of his quarterback,

651
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: so we know he's a guy that will run the

652
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: routes that Tony Rumbol tells him.

653
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Speaker 3: To, yes exactly.

654
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Speaker 1: And you know, I think, I mean, this is a

655
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Speaker 1: guy we know his skills, Like he's big, he's fast,

656
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Speaker 1: he was productive in college. You know, he saved Aaron

657
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Speaker 1: Rodgers bacon twice in a playoff game. You know, he

658
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Speaker 1: like he literally had one hundred and one yards receiving

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Speaker 1: in a touchdown within the span of one minute, you know,

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Speaker 1: on one drive, Like like that is almost mathematically impossible.

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Speaker 1: There are only one hundred yards on the field, and

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Speaker 1: yet this guy had one hundred and one yards receiving

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Speaker 1: on one drive. So anyway, it's you know, like I

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Speaker 1: think he can play in big moments. I think he

665
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Speaker 1: just wasn't in a great environment to unlock his his potential.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that can work out with the Green Dot City.

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Speaker 4: Action and Jeff Jansen, Aldrich Robinson will be learning from

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Speaker 4: none other than their number one receiver Torell Owens back

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Speaker 4: in the league. And so I scoffed at this at first,

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Speaker 4: I said, why not Des Bryant coming off the Achilles

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Speaker 4: even Ocho Cinco? You know, I always see him on

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Speaker 4: Twitter in the weight room.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, the.

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Speaker 4: More I think about it, I think you're right here.

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Speaker 4: I think Cho Cinco still plays a little too much FIFA.

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Speaker 4: Des is coming off that brutal Achilles injury, probably the

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Speaker 4: worst one, worst injury you can come up with any receiver.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, t O ran a four or five in

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Speaker 4: recent years, and I didn't realize how actively he's been

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Speaker 4: trying to get back into football. He literally worked out

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Speaker 4: for the excuse my pronunciation, uh, the rough Riders. They

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Speaker 4: played Skee Okay, I were gonna try he worked out

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Speaker 4: for them one day after his Hall of Fame induction.

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Speaker 4: So he wants to play, and I think if you

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Speaker 4: gave him this opportunity, you would have throw Owens on

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Speaker 4: your team almost immediately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I even you know, we got yellow highlight

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Speaker 1: About to talk about Teo, I mean, this is such

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Speaker 1: a crazy move. This guy is I don't know, forty

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Speaker 1: four forty six, like however old he is, like he

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Speaker 1: should be on the coaching staff, you know, but it

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Speaker 1: is a very thin wide receiver group out there. Like

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Speaker 1: I don't at all feel comfortable with Michael Crabtree as

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Speaker 1: a number one option, Like he just doesn't have it

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Speaker 1: at this point. I wasn't really satisfied with a lot

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Speaker 1: of the filled stretcher options as anyone like in a

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Speaker 1: full time role, Like I think too literally is the

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Speaker 1: best wide receiver available, like Des Brian, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: has the injury. Brandon Marshall, like that guy, like he's

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Speaker 1: just done, Like he's too he's too slow at this point.

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Speaker 1: Chad Johnson, I think is also probably not as physically

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Speaker 1: gifted at this point as t O is. Like again,

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Speaker 1: t O, he is just so obsessed with like being

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Speaker 1: in in peak condition and training and wanting to get

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Speaker 1: back into the game. Yeah, I think if you gave

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Speaker 1: him the shot. And then also like I'm I'm mildly

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Speaker 1: intrigued by the of having Romo as his coordinator, you know,

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Speaker 1: like like this, like Romo knows him, you know, Like

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Speaker 1: I think Romo could manage him, Romo could scheme to

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Speaker 1: get him the ball. I think it actually could work.

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Speaker 1: And at a minimum, if it doesn't work, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be really interesting. It will blow up in some

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Speaker 1: really fascinating way. Uh, there will be interest in what's happening.

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Speaker 1: It will generate ticket sales. So yeah, I'm going with

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Speaker 1: TiO over you know the other guys who are out

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Speaker 1: there on the market.

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Speaker 4: Fortunately, Jason Witten unretired and joined the Cowboys, Otherwise he

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Speaker 4: might be on the shots. And then I don't know

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Speaker 4: if Romo would all of a sudden, No, I think

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Speaker 4: we might see him going back to Whitton, but that

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Speaker 4: that is not a reality. Instead looking at a tight

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Speaker 4: end group where you're starting off with Max Williams former Ravens.

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Speaker 2: I believe he was a first round pick.

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Speaker 4: He was a highly drafted out of the way, and

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Speaker 4: then Levine Toyolo Tololo to Loo, who was strangely very

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Speaker 4: relevant for like two or three weeks last year the

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Speaker 4: Lions out of nowhere. But he's been a pretty solid

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Speaker 4: producer throughout his career either way. Originally I said, where's

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Speaker 4: Ben Watson? Remembered he retired?

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Speaker 2: That was my bad.

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Speaker 4: Still though, it's hard to keep track of these guys, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it is. But the one thing I think are missing

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Speaker 4: here is let's substitute one of those guys off for

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Speaker 4: Eric Swoop and get one of these baller ex basketball

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Speaker 4: tight ends. That's more of an athlete than a true

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Speaker 4: tight end. But you know, he is a guy that

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Speaker 4: we've seen have more success kind of the preseason, more

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Speaker 4: of an experimental guy. So I understand if you got

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Speaker 4: other positions to fill, But what made you to go

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Speaker 4: with Max and living.

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Speaker 1: This is this is a hard one. There is nothing

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Speaker 1: out there in the tight end market. I was really

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Speaker 1: hoping to get Austin Safarian Jenkins. That was that was

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Speaker 1: a big blow to the team. Not gonna lie, But

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Speaker 1: I understand why he would want to have the chance to,

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Speaker 1: you know, to be the Gronk successor. I was even

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Speaker 1: hoping having Gronk on this coaching staff fight enticson, but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't enough. Max Williams, what I like about him

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Speaker 1: is that he was really productive in college from a

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Speaker 1: market share perspective, he was, you know, like the number

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Speaker 1: one pass catcher at Minnesota for two years. Really the

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Speaker 1: offense channeled through him. He entered the league at twenty

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Speaker 1: one years old, a second round pick, you know, so

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of draft capital invested into him,

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Speaker 1: and those guys like I just tend to maintain my

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Speaker 1: interest in them long term. Like the guys who were

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Speaker 1: productive in college, who were twenty one years old as rookies,

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Speaker 1: you know, drafted highly. It takes some times for those

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Speaker 1: guys to progress. But like the last one was Eric Ebron,

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Speaker 1: you know, like that's that's where we are. Like Eric

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Speaker 1: Ebron entered the league young, had four disappointing seasons with

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Speaker 1: the team that drafted him, went to another team, and

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Speaker 1: had a very good year last year. Not to say

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Speaker 1: that Max Williams could do that, but like Max Williams

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Speaker 1: is a guy I know at least knows how to

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Speaker 1: play tight end, and I think a lot of his

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Speaker 1: time at Baltimore was derailed because of an injury that

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Speaker 1: he had. I think he's back. I think he's you know,

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Speaker 1: presumably healthy. He knows how to run routes like he's

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Speaker 1: an actual tight end, whereas like Swoop is still like

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Speaker 1: a developmental guy. And I don't feel comfortable at having

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Speaker 1: Swoop as like my number one. I don't feel comfortable

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Speaker 1: having him as my number two because I don't think

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Speaker 1: he can do those things that you want a second

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Speaker 1: tight end to do, like Toilolo is like the ultimate

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Speaker 1: like professional number two tight end, where like he's just

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Speaker 1: good enough as a receiver, just good enough in past

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Speaker 1: blocking and run blocking to do all of those little

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Speaker 1: annoying things that you need your second tight end to do.

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Speaker 3: You know. So that is what I like about Toilolo.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, so it was like with Swoop,

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Speaker 1: do I have him as like my third tight end

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Speaker 1: or do I go with a guy who has more versatility?

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Speaker 1: And I went with Ryan Hewitt because he can play

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Speaker 1: full back. He's basically an h back, you know, he

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Speaker 1: can sort of do it all. And Huet and Tula

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Speaker 1: were teammates back in the day at Stanford, not that

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Speaker 1: that really means much, but like, I just like Hewitt

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Speaker 1: is a guy who can provide a lot of versatility,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I just thought that that, in the

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Speaker 1: won't turn into a tight end anyway.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a thin position, for sure. I'd love to

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Speaker 4: see you. I'm sure you're not. You're going to be

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Speaker 4: too busy with real football at this point, but I'd

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Speaker 4: love to see the same exercise after the last cuts

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Speaker 4: of free agency, when the rosters have to go to

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Speaker 4: fifty three men, I think right now, you know all

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Speaker 4: these teams have ninety Like that's why there's been something

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Speaker 4: like thirty to forty AF signings, which is awesome, but

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Speaker 4: you know, probably not all those guys are going to

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Speaker 4: make the final roster. I can guarantee not all the

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Speaker 4: guys will make their team's final roster, so it'll probably

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Speaker 4: be something closer to half that number. But I just

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Speaker 4: think the talent pool is a strikingly high. Pretty much

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Speaker 4: like once Week one goals around, all right, you have

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Speaker 4: breakdowns for every single lineman, front seven, safety killed it.

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Speaker 4: The one final issue I have is your number one cornerback.

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Speaker 4: I understand that if you're a good cornerback with even

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Speaker 4: a trace of kind of high level experience, you're probably

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Speaker 4: already on a roster.

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Speaker 2: But why is Brent Grimes on this team? Like?

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Speaker 4: We have some distractions like too, Johnny. You know, I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying this is a team just free of distractions,

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Speaker 4: but I feel like all those guys genuinely want to

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Speaker 4: play football at a high level. And I can't say

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Speaker 4: that about Brent Grimes because this guy quit on his

854
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Speaker 4: team last year by refusing the shadow number one wide

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Speaker 4: receivers because he didn't have what he felt was number

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Speaker 4: one cornerback pay.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know, man, maybe you.

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Speaker 4: Got the salary cap to make Brent actually be motivated.

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Speaker 4: I know his wife and him are both usually very

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Speaker 4: outspoken on social media, So I just hope you know

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Speaker 4: what you're signing up for here, and that's an undersized

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Speaker 4: age and cornerback who doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Like to do what he's told.

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Speaker 1: I will be honest, I'm not thrilled with my cornerback group.

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Speaker 1: It is such an important position in the NFL that

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Speaker 1: if a guy is even moderately good, he's going to

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Speaker 1: be on a team already. So it's a situation where like,

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Speaker 1: I'm fine with my defensive front. You know, I got

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Speaker 1: in Domo Kong Su there. I find enough with my

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Speaker 1: edge rushers, you know, Ezekiel Ansa and Adrian Clavern. Even

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Speaker 1: my safeties. I feel actually pretty good about my safety

872
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: group with Eric Berry, Trey Boston, Glover, Quinn. You know,

873
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: I think in in sets where I have five or

874
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: six defensive backs on the field, I might be heavier

875
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: on safeties. So yeah, I will freely admit cornerback is

876
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: the weakness of this defense. You know, I will say,

877
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: in all fairness, I think Morris Claiborne is really the

878
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: number one cornerback. But I'm you know, they're going to

879
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: be playing sides, Like Claiborne is going to be on

880
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: the right corner, Brent Grimes is going to be on

881
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: the left side.

882
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: You know.

883
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: I think, like he's just been a lot corner back

884
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: for so long, he doesn't really like having to move around,

885
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: and so, like it was a losing season for the Buccaneers,

886
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: their defense was totally decimated. They were like, hey, can

887
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: you do something you don't normally do and run around

888
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: the field instead of just sit on your side of

889
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: the field. He's like, no, I don't want to do that,

890
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: which you know I don't like it, but whatever, you know,

891
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: I think if we use him intelligently and try to

892
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: just kind of limit what he has to do, like

893
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: focus his abilities in a particular way, we can maybe

894
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: get league average play out of him, which is basically

895
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: all I'm hoping for at this point.

896
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do like Claiborne as the other starting corner

897
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: and yeah, should mention the strength of this team is

898
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: easily the defensive line. I mean, In addition to those

899
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: guys you mentioned, we got the Dominican sue Timmy jern

900
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: again as a dtackle who's balled out with the Ravens

901
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 4: and Eagles over the last few years. Muhammad Wilkerson wasn't

902
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: quite as dominant in Minnesota as we saw back in

903
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 4: the day with the Jets, was still a former first

904
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: round pick with a ton of talent, even Danny Shelton,

905
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: who's seen with the Browns and Patriots over the years.

906
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, if anything's gonna able to save

907
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: that cornerback group, it will be potentially a lethal pass

908
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 4: rush you put together here.

909
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm hoping that the safety play can also

910
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: help compensate a little bit for the for the cornerbacks.

911
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's where I am not too excited

912
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: about Brenton Grimes. But I mean, I think in this instance,

913
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: the only thing worse than having Brent Grimes is not

914
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: having Brent Grimes. So that's that's that's where I am. Okay, Ian,

915
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: let's close the show by looking at a couple of

916
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: draft props. I'm going to be writing an article at

917
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: the Action Network looking at some of these, and of

918
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: course throughout the next couple of weeks, as more draft

919
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: props are released into the market, I'm going to be

920
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: looking at those very intently. A couple that catch my eye.

921
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: One is the number of quarterbacks. And I've written about

922
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: this before, but I feel like we have more information

923
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: now it makes sense to address this one again. The

924
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: number quarterbacks drafted in Round one. The over unders three

925
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: and a half, and it is heavily favored at minus

926
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: two hundred that there will be more than three and

927
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: a half quarterbacks taken. I mean, I have to say

928
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: I don't think of Daniel Jones's that's the guy. There's

929
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: the question about whether he's going to be drafted in

930
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: the first round. I just don't see him as a

931
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: first rounder. But some people do. And I don't know

932
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: how into college football you are, or how much you

933
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: are kind of tracking stuff in the draft or the

934
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: lead up to the draft, but it's not all that

935
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: common that we actually see four quarterbacks drafted in the

936
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: first round anyway. I know we had five last year,

937
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: but you know, like typically the number is like two

938
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: to three, So even going above three and a half

939
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: is somewhat questionable. If you're looking, like on a macro perspective,

940
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: But then when you start looking at the actual prospects,

941
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: like Drew Locke doesn't deserve to be a first rounder,

942
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't think, but he'll probably be drafted in the

943
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: top ten, which just seems unreal to me, but that's

944
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: where we are. Daniel Jones, I don't think should be

945
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: sniffing the first round, but he's been invited to the

946
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: draft and he's accepted, which means that he and his

947
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: agent have to feel pretty confident that he's going to

948
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: be selected on Day one. Otherwise we have a Geno

949
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: Smith situation on our hands, where he's there and then

950
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: he's not drafted. But like Geno Smith is also instructive,

951
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: it does happen where a guy gets invited to the draft,

952
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: he's expecting to go on Day one, and he's not drafted.

953
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: So I'm probably still leaning toward the under here at

954
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: plus money, just because I have to imagine that somewhere rationally,

955
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: there are thirty two guys running NFL franchises who understand

956
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones does not deserve to be a first rounder.

957
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: But do you have any input on this?

958
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 4: It seems like Daniel Jones is this year's Mason Rudolph

959
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 4: where yes, you know, maybe he should probably go a

960
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 4: little more mid rounds, but he's getting this first round hype.

961
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't really get it either.

962
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: I mean, Haskins and Murray are probably the only quarterbacks

963
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 4: that should go in the first round. Drew Locke seems

964
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 4: like he will, as you were saying all the if

965
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: the Giants really take Drew Locke over Haskins or something,

966
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 4: that that would just be too funny. But yeah, it

967
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: definitely seems like a four is the magic number here

968
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: and how plus odds that goes under man?

969
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't I would have thought

970
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 2: that the odds would have been reversed.

971
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just at this point now so much hype

972
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: around Daniel Jones. And yeah, I mean I've been pretty

973
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: anti Daniel Jones to this point, I guess, and may

974
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: that's maybe more of an analytical perspective and not so

975
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: much of a market based perspective.

976
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 3: And maybe I've been wrong.

977
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 4: Is he the one that's like an ace punter as well?

978
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: He's really good at the quick kicks?

979
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: Is that I don't know, to be honest, because when

980
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking at quarterbacks, I don't care how good they are.

981
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: But no, he's you know, he you know, went went

982
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: to Duke.

983
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: You know, he's kind of in that quote unquote like

984
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,959
Speaker 1: Manning family tree of you know, having having their quarterback coach.

985
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: So it's you know, I think that's part of why

986
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: people are interested in him. But I don't know, he's

987
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: someone I don't think deserves to be drafted in round one.

988
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: The other prop that is catching my eye two and

989
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: a half wide receivers selected in the first round, and

990
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: it's minus one twenty on both sides. This one is

991
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: really interesting to me. After the combine, I would have

992
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: thought that this number should be like three and a half,

993
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: but it's dropped down to two. I guess there's just

994
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: not quite as much hype for this wide receiver class.

995
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: But I think it's actually a pretty decent class. And

996
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: so DK Metcalf for sure is locked in as a

997
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: first rounder. And then after that, I think you have

998
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: like six other guys who potentially can be drafted in

999
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: the first round. And I think that's enough to push

1000
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: me to the over here and kill Harry aj Brownhikeem Butler.

1001
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: I think all of them are in play for the

1002
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: first round. And then that doesn't even mention Marquise Brown,

1003
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: who he wasn't able to work out at the Combine

1004
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: because of a foot injury. But his foot has been rechecked,

1005
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: presumably the injury has killed or is on the way

1006
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: to healing. So you know, reportedly there aren't long term

1007
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: concerns about his injury, which I think that would have

1008
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: been the thing to keep him out of the first

1009
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: round because people are just assuming that he's fast based

1010
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: on his game tape. I think he will get the

1011
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt there, so he's a potential first rounder.

1012
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: Harris Campbell is a potential first rounder just based on

1013
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: how dynamic he absolutely was at the Combine, and he

1014
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: had very good production last year at Jhai State, and

1015
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: then maybe even JJ Artega waits whiteside as someone who

1016
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: could sneak into the first round, big bodied guy, a

1017
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: touchdown producer. And then at his pro DA, you know,

1018
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: at like two hundred and twenty plus pounds, I think

1019
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty three, he ran a sub four

1020
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: point five forty, you know, which is smoking for a

1021
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: guy of that size. So he has even first round potential.

1022
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: So I have to assume, like some of those guys

1023
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: get into the first round. So are there are enough

1024
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: teams who want good wide receivers, and there are enough

1025
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: good wide receivers I think to make it likely that

1026
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: some of them sneak into the first round. So do

1027
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: you have any thoughts on any of those guys?

1028
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: No, I think he's I think you pretty much nailed it,

1029
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 4: just in terms of even if there's not even if

1030
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 4: we won't have like three wide receivers going the top

1031
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 4: ten picks or anything, there are a bunch of wide

1032
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: receivers with theoretical first round talent. And I've even I

1033
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 4: saw a couple of mocks. I even had Terry McLaurin

1034
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 4: in the bottom of the first round. There's just a

1035
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 4: lot of receivers this year that kind of have that

1036
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 4: four to three speed with some production that did well

1037
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 4: with the combine and could feasibly get a team to

1038
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 4: fall in love with them.

1039
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's enough physical freaks.

1040
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 4: And then, like you said, Hollywood Brown's foot, whatever that

1041
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 4: problem was, as apparently it's apparently not going to be

1042
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 4: a long term issue.

1043
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 2: So that came back with flying colors.

1044
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: So for someone that you know doesn't check all the

1045
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 4: size boxes, obviously he needed that to happen.

1046
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: And it did for him.

1047
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean it seems like a low number

1048
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 4: and in a league that seems to be more and

1049
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 4: more okay with taking you know, chances on guys with

1050
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 4: a high, high upside speed.

1051
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the over here as well.

1052
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in a typical year, it's not uncommon

1053
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: to see three wide receivers in the first round. But

1054
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: like think of think of like five or six years ago,

1055
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: you had DeAndre Hopkins in the first round. You had

1056
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: Quarterall Patterson in the first round, and you had Temon

1057
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: Austin in the first round.

1058
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: Two running backs and DeAndre Hopkins.

1059
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: I mean it's like like.

1060
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: NFL teams find a reason to draft wide receivers in

1061
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: the first round. And that's like a typical year. That's

1062
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: not even taking into account like the talent of this year.

1063
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: And I think, I mean, maybe I'm too high on

1064
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: the the receiving talent in this class, but I think

1065
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: it's I think it's pretty good.

1066
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had even closer history when Corey Davis, John Ross,

1067
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: and Mike Williams all went in the top ten. I mean,

1068
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 4: I don't think any of those guys are that much

1069
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 4: better than some of the top guys this year's class.

1070
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 4: I mean again, I don't think these receivers are gonna

1071
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 4: go top ten like they did, but easily enough chances

1072
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 4: for them to go in the top thirty two.

1073
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I think as prospects, many of these guys

1074
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: are just as good as as some of those guys.

1075
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think this number is wrong, but who knows,

1076
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: I might be proven wrong just based on what the

1077
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: market does. Ian you will be putting out more NFL

1078
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: content on the site. Any thoughts on what you are

1079
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: going to be doing coming up?

1080
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got one coming up the next couple of

1081
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 4: days or so where I looked at all because there's

1082
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 4: like we all know the highsmen, but there's like eighteen

1083
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 4: or twenty actual college football individual awards, best Lineman, best

1084
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 4: wide receiver, all that. I looked at all those awards,

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Speaker 4: all the award winners the last eighteen and nineteen years

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Speaker 4: to see basically which awards the guys end up winning

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Speaker 4: and then gone to be great NFALL players. Which awards

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Speaker 4: don't really matter that much. So just again more of

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Speaker 4: a fun ask article that luckily I have the time

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Speaker 4: to write now in the middle of April.

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Speaker 2: So we'll all have that up sometime next week.

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Speaker 1: All right, Over the next week, I'm going to update

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Speaker 1: my mock draft, update my rookie rankings, of course look

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Speaker 1: at draft props in the market. And then also next

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Speaker 1: week we'll have Sean Corner and Chris Raymond returning to

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Speaker 1: the show to talk about their favorite NFL win totals,

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Speaker 1: So be sure to check that out. All right, that

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Speaker 1: is going to do it for this episode of the

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Speaker 1: Action Network NFL podcast, sponsored by the Green Dot City

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Speaker 1: Action Please rate and review the show and iTunes For Ian,

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Speaker 1: I am Matthew Friedman, Matteth the Oracle.

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Speaker 3: See again next episode.