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Speaker 2: Here we are on a huge Sunday. We got a

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Speaker 2: lot of NBA news to get to, plenty of NFL news.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we just saw, of course, Dan and

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Speaker 2: Mike leave the building after their fabulous morning show. You

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Speaker 2: guys shared some stories about life at the Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Country Club, which of course recently just hosted the United

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Speaker 2: States Open.

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Speaker 3: It's now your new home essentially. Oh yeah, they I

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Speaker 3: haven't moved out. I've been hiding out in a storage

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Speaker 3: closet in the clubhouse. They can't get rid of me. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 3: I loved it and they had a good time there

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Speaker 3: to Mikey Harmon and Dan Byer. They did their live

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Speaker 3: remote broadcast out their Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: I heard it and Dan was showing me some video.

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Speaker 2: Was like pitch dark in the morning, and I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they were there long before any golfers actually showed up.

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Speaker 3: They actually employed them to like, you know, dry off

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Speaker 3: the greens. They had those big rollers in their hands.

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Speaker 3: They're like, well, if you're going to be here, you

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Speaker 3: it was a great event, and I think other than

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Speaker 3: the biggest complaint I've heard from spectators who wanted to

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Speaker 3: were like, well, they didn't let a lot of people in.

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Speaker 3: It's like, did you get tickets No? Did you want

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Speaker 3: tickets no? Well, okay, then what are you complaining about?

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Speaker 3: The pros though, they had a complaint where they were like,

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Speaker 3: it didn't feel like a major. It didn't feel like

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Speaker 3: a US Open where you have those jam packed crowds.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's waiting around, you know, the tea box for tee off,

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Speaker 3: of the tournament. But I'll tell you what, that crush

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Speaker 3: Clark finished up his round. I thought that was really

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Speaker 3: cool and I thought it ended the way US opens

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Speaker 3: typically could do. It's almost like more of the you know,

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Speaker 3: in a very affluent sport, more of a blue collar tournament.

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Speaker 2: And the right guy won. Well. Just to takeaway and

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Speaker 2: again this is what our completion from a week ago.

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Speaker 2: I thought the biggest problem was the broadcast. They didn't

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Speaker 2: the first two rounds on USA Network. They had all

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Speaker 2: And Paul Asinger needs to be fired. I mean he's awful.

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Speaker 2: I mean his negativity through the entire tournament was a

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Speaker 2: and went to Fox, which was a disaster. They get

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Speaker 2: when he ever. Lead analysts constantly use the term pitch

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Speaker 2: of the US Open. So I look, it was great

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Speaker 2: the ending with Wyndham Clark being this unknown that he

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Speaker 2: exactly at the US Open what he had done the

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Speaker 2: to lose, and he lost. So the drama was there.

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Speaker 2: All right, enough with the golf, because we have a

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Speaker 2: lot of things to get to on a very busy Sunday, Ritchie.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The NBA is the basketball in general, is very unique

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Speaker 2: amongst team sports because one player, unlike football or baseball. Look,

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Speaker 2: there are great superstar generational players, but it's very rare

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Speaker 2: champions We've seen it over and over at Tim Duncan

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Speaker 2: So Wemby, I'm just gonna go with what everyone's calling

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Speaker 2: him now, wey wim Banyama is not an easy flowing.

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Speaker 3: Us and compos We call him the Greek freaker.

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Speaker 2: Right, the grief freak are usually when I'm doing a story,

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Speaker 2: I'll say entered the gumpo once and then the restless

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Speaker 2: story it's Giannis or Greek freak. Wem Banyama is not easy. No,

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Speaker 2: So Wemby works so by going back again to the

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Speaker 2: league needs this kid to be a star. You want stars.

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Speaker 2: Stars make your league fall. And there's one organization, one

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Speaker 2: coach that understands, having been there with David Robinson, having

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Speaker 2: ends up with the number one overall pick Honestly, I

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Speaker 2: also want Wimby to be a star. I want to

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Speaker 2: see stars. I want to see players that come in

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Speaker 2: to become that superstar, to actually become that superstar, as

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Speaker 2: want in Annie Sport. I want the guys that have

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Speaker 2: So it's a perfect scenario, a perfect storm. Now we

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Speaker 2: just got to see if Wimby is going to be

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Speaker 3: Well. There's no excuses here because you're going to one

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Speaker 3: So if it doesn't work in San Antonio, it's not

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Speaker 3: gonna work with Wemby. And so when he was drafted,

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Speaker 3: though he is a can't miss pick and he's been

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Speaker 3: Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning were discussed in their draft classes.

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Speaker 3: Can't miss guys. It feels like it's a camp miss player.

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Speaker 3: needed somebody unlock his potential. And that's why Peterson went

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Speaker 3: contender in the AFC. The same could happen for the

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Speaker 3: San Antonio Spurs, but it really hinges around whether or

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Speaker 3: not he can handle the spotlight. He's got all the skills. Well,

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Speaker 3: you can't teach size, he's got size. You can't teach athleticism.

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Speaker 3: He's got athleticism. So we'll see if he could handle

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Speaker 2: The one thing that got to me though, is that

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Speaker 2: they kept saying We've never seen anyone like Wenby before,

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Speaker 2: and I'm watching, like, yeah, we have. His name was

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Speaker 2: Ralph Sampson. Ralph Sampson was seven foot four, had very

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Speaker 2: his career. What happened that long, skinny body, because he

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Speaker 2: had a perimeter game. He was you know, he was very,

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Speaker 2: very very similar to what we're seeing with Wimby. The

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Speaker 2: body didn't hold up. It just didn't hold up. Now,

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Speaker 3: Ralph Sampson was drafted in nineteen eighty three. Right, sports

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Speaker 3: nutrition was different back then. Sure, the ability to strength

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Speaker 3: athletic structure is so different.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: What you're saying about Wemby here is the exact same

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Speaker 3: thing they were saying about Kevin Durant when he left Texas.

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Speaker 3: They were like, he's he's a stick figure. This guy

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Speaker 3: And so you look at an athlete like that and

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Speaker 3: you say, frailty is going to stop him? Well, fast

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Speaker 3: forward worked for Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is one of

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Speaker 3: inarguably the best ten players in the league's history, maybe

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Speaker 3: things I do know that are most important for a

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Speaker 3: a superstar at the next level is a stable culture

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Speaker 3: and a great coach, and he's got both of those

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Speaker 2: Remind me again, Denver Nuggets won the NBA championship, right yep.

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Speaker 2: I thought that that team winning the NBA Championship, the

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Speaker 2: NBA may move in a different direction. They're not. We'll

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Speaker 2: explain that a little bit later on the show. Coming

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio this Sunday. I'm looking at the length of

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Speaker 6: that are excelling in this new brand of the sport

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Speaker 6: and it's good for the game. Look at the crowds.

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Speaker 6: There was a walk up sellout in Cincinnati that has

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Speaker 6: done happened in a very, very long time. That is

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Speaker 6: empirically great from Major League Baseball. So I'm willing to

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Speaker 6: accept if there's a player or two in every clubhouse

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Speaker 6: who's not thrilled with the rules. It's unfortunate, but it

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Speaker 6: does appear to be making the fans very happy, and

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Speaker 6: it also is giving players back another half hour every

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Speaker 6: night to where they're better rested. Their recovery rates are

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Speaker 6: going to be better, and I would expect that at

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Speaker 6: the end of the year you're going to see a

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Speaker 6: more lively version of the game because a half hour

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Speaker 6: reduction in the amount of time that you're on your

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Speaker 6: feet for six months every day is going to help you.

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Speaker 6: In October, it's going to be the best version of

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Speaker 6: the post season that I believe we've seen in a

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Speaker 6: long time, and I for one, can't wait to witness it.

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Speaker 2: I'm amazing you guys haven't acknowledged the fact that when

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Speaker 2: we spoke preseason, I predicted in Arizona Cincinnati, and i'lcus

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Speaker 2: that's anybody. Maybe I dreamt that, But right now it's

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Speaker 2: been an upside downs year major League Baseball, which is

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Speaker 2: always a good thing. Jp have a wonderful rest of

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Speaker 2: your Sunday. As always, we appreciate your time. Can't wait

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Speaker 2: to catch up next week. Thanks so much.

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Speaker 6: Sounds very gentlemen. By the way, we're only about four

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Speaker 6: months away from rich Ormberger scoring the tickets that I've

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Speaker 6: asked for for the state college game there between Michigan

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Speaker 6: and Penn State. That's right, check the counter. We're about

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Speaker 6: four four months away. And by the way, I also

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Speaker 6: noticed this speaking about the family. It's a game on Fox,

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Speaker 6: so Rich, it's a layup for you.

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Speaker 3: That's right, come true, Don Fox.

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Speaker 6: In then Abbey Valley. I think we're going to be

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Speaker 6: all sitting on the fifty yard line.

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Speaker 3: I believe this should Yeah, this should be no problem

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Speaker 3: at all.

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Speaker 2: JP. I'll call you, don't call me. He'll be waiting there, Like,

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Speaker 2: where's JP. I'm standing here with his tickets? All right, JP,

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Speaker 2: have a great week. We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 6: The conversation.

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Speaker 2: That's John Paul Morosi, our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider.

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Speaker 2: Did you make promises our abuddy JP?

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Speaker 3: This is from I'm pretty sure I made that promise

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Speaker 3: during the pandemic.

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Speaker 2: Here we are. I thought I thought sports were over.

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Speaker 2: I think that'll be the same game they erect your

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Speaker 2: new statue over there in Happy Valley. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: find out what's trending right now. It is time for

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Speaker 2: us to welcome in. By far the most popular individual

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Speaker 2: on this show. I know about social media points that

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Speaker 2: out week after week after week, and Moncey Belanos, of course, I'm.

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Speaker 7: An, how are your team here? Let's be real.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's like saying you like, like you know,

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Speaker 2: back in the day, like there's Kobe like, but the

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Speaker 2: rest of the guys are on the te Yeah, we're.

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Speaker 7: All We're all part of the starting five. That's you

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Speaker 7: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: That's what Madonna says about like her her backup dancer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, we're all like part of the tea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Beyonce and Destiny's Child. I feel like we might

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Speaker 3: be in Destiny's Child.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's like when Rich looks at his AFC Championship ring

496
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Speaker 2: and said I had as much to do with this

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Speaker 2: as Tom Brady. That's right, exactly, right, right right, very soon,

498
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Speaker 2: same ring, same everything, everything, guys.

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Speaker 7: I feel like I'm in London. I had a rough

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Speaker 7: night of sleep, so I.

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Speaker 8: Feel like I just got up in London and like

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Speaker 8: all of a sudden, I'm in the US, but the

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Speaker 8: two game series in London between the Cardinals and the

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Speaker 8: Cubs has officially come to an end. Yesterday was game one, Saturday,

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Speaker 8: Cubs came out on top nine to one, and today

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Speaker 8: was the Cardinals who beat the Cubs seven to five.

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Speaker 7: More man news for the Cubs.

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Speaker 8: Hopefully it's nothing too serious, but their ace pitcher Marcus

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Speaker 8: Stroman did leave the game in the fourth inning with

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Speaker 8: a blister on his right index finger, which always cracks

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Speaker 8: me up up how much a blister can actually affect

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Speaker 8: you pitching.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's like a paper cut.

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Speaker 8: It's like they're so small but yet so detrimental to

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Speaker 8: one hell right, like, oh poor guys. Hopefully it's nothing

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Speaker 8: too crazy, but that is all wrapped up. Both of

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Speaker 8: them play again on Tuesday, so hopefully they won't have

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Speaker 8: too much jet lag. Let's go into the game going

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Speaker 8: on right now in the States. It's still the Tigers

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Speaker 8: holding onto their lead at home over the Twins three

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Speaker 8: to two, top of the six inning. We're gonna move

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Speaker 8: on to the NBA because Chris Haynes of NBA on

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Speaker 8: TNT Bleacher Report tweeted that the Suns are moving forward

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Speaker 8: with the plan of keeping DeAndre Ayton to play alongside

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Speaker 8: Devin Booker, Kevin Durant and Bradley Beale. What a terrible decision,

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Speaker 8: but I digress. Victor Webb ba Yama gave his top

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Speaker 8: five players that he thought could beat the Monstars, you know,

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Speaker 8: in space jam and they take on, right, Michael Jordan

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Speaker 8: the Monstars. So it's starting five to save the planet,

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Speaker 8: which is not bad.

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Speaker 7: It's not bad.

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Speaker 8: Steph Curry, Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neill.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a big team.

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Speaker 7: That is a big team, right.

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Speaker 3: I looked and I was like, Okay, a lot of

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Speaker 3: beef except for Curry. I guess in the original he

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Speaker 3: plays the Muggsy Bogues role.

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Speaker 7: Yes, for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I think it's a pretty good one. I'm

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Speaker 8: not gonna lie. And in hockey, a little news. The

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Speaker 8: Hurricanes have signed their captain, Jordan's Stall, to a four

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Speaker 8: year deal worth eleven point six million.

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Speaker 7: Make that paper booboo back to you, guys, Ahi.

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Speaker 2: Monzy, thank you very much. We'll be checking and with

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Speaker 2: to the NBA draft here, Rich, because we just saw

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Speaker 2: a season that ended with dominance from a team called

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Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets. Yeah, they only low four games during

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Speaker 2: the course of the playoffs. They swept the Western Conference Finals.

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Speaker 2: They lost a single game only because really a miracle

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter finish by the heat in that game in Denver.

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Speaker 2: And I thought, because now that people are fully aware

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Speaker 2: of Nikola Jokic and the player, that he is a

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Speaker 2: guy that's really, in many ways a self made player

560
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Speaker 2: who has maxed out his skills based on the fact

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Speaker 2: that he has a very high basketball IQ and whatever

562
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: physical limitations he may have had, he's been every to

563
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Speaker 2: overcome them. And he's a true center in other words,

564
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 2: their offense operates through their center. I thought that this

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Speaker 2: would be a learning process for the NBA. Apparently not,

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Speaker 2: because two of the most dominant college big men over

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years did not even get drafted.

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Speaker 2: De Sibwe became the first player ever to be a

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Speaker 2: Nasmith Player of the Year that goes back to nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixty nine who was not drafted and drew Timmy three

571
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Speaker 2: years of dominance against Zaga. We saw it in full

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Speaker 2: display in his thirty six point effort against UCLA in

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Speaker 2: the Sweet sixteen. Both these big men, who obviously can

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Speaker 2: play the game at a very high level, got completely

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Speaker 2: bypassed in the NBA draft. So once again, it's great

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Speaker 2: that we have a seven to five guy like Wimby

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Speaker 2: that can knock down threes. And if you look at

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Speaker 2: the continuing pattern of what they're looking for from their

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Speaker 2: bigs that they need to have, like a guard skill set,

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Speaker 2: I'm a little surprised. I thought there would be at

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Speaker 2: least one team that say, you know what, having a

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Speaker 2: classic big man can actually still work in this league,

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Speaker 2: because it was on full display obviously with Jokich if

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Speaker 2: we develop his game around him, which is exactly what

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Speaker 2: Denver did in the development of Yoch to where he

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Speaker 2: is nowadays. But apparently now we're gonna still see a

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Speaker 2: bunch of seven footers standing at the three point line

588
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Speaker 2: casting off shots, which for me personally, is not the

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Speaker 2: game I really want to see.

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Speaker 3: Well, the game's evolved, and now you have big man

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Speaker 3: not under siege the way that that Shaquille O'Neal was when,

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Speaker 3: for example, he was a dominant big man in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Because you send these guys to the foul line, they

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Speaker 3: make their free throws, Like that's the biggest difference. You

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Speaker 3: don't want a foul Jokich because he's pretty automatic from

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Speaker 3: the free throw line. So you can't combat a big

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Speaker 3: man the same way you used to. And they have

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Speaker 3: more to their game. They're more skillful ball handlers. Like

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Speaker 3: you said, they have a perimeter game. It doesn't lend

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Speaker 3: itself to the most exciting basketball. But to focus on

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Speaker 3: the original point you were making about how other athletes

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Speaker 3: will slip through the crack, this happened with Jokich.

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Speaker 2: Jokich was a second rounder.

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Speaker 3: This happened with Draymond Green. Draymond Green was a second rounder.

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Speaker 2: Who else? PJ.

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Speaker 3: Tucker was the second rounder. I'm trying to think of others.

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00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: Malcolm Brogden was the second rounder. There are plenty of

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Speaker 3: players who are now undrafted or selected in the second

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Speaker 3: round who you can refer to I have had substantial

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Speaker 3: NBA careers. Because this is what happens with NBA executives.

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Speaker 3: They get stuck on this thought, like our star has

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Speaker 3: to look like this, you know, it has to be

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Speaker 3: cut from this prototype. It has to be this archetype.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be it just talent wins.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: So Drew Timmy may go on and have an unbelievable

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Speaker 3: career at the next level, and they'll be an undrafted

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Speaker 3: guy and people will be like, whoa, he came out

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Speaker 3: of nowhere. But anybody who's watchingin Zaga basketball will know

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Speaker 3: how talented he was. And also, I'll say this, this

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Speaker 3: is a great This is a great argument for Nil.

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Speaker 3: Nil gave Drew Timmy something nearing three quarters of a

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Speaker 3: million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Look at Zach Edie, another guy, a guy National Player

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Speaker 2: of the Year decided, you know what, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: stay in out of the year.

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Speaker 3: In college, you get these guys who are now making

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Speaker 3: enough money to support their families back home playing college basketball,

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Speaker 3: who are making enough money to promote themselves and potentially,

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Speaker 3: you know, launch into an overseas career. If it doesn't

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Speaker 3: work at the NBA level. You're seeing college basketball becoming

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Speaker 3: the business for the players that it's always been for

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Speaker 3: the teams and for the athletic conferences. And it's a

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00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: beautiful thing. Because a guy like Drew Timmy, his one

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00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: shot and making real money was going to be getting

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Speaker 3: drafted by to the NBA, and now he has all

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Speaker 3: these doors open to him with endorsements and advertisers because

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Speaker 3: he was a big deal at the college level. The

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Speaker 3: same way so many hard working college football and basketball

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Speaker 3: players and frankly, gymnasts and women's track stars and etc. Etc.

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Speaker 2: Etc.

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Speaker 3: College baseball players have been for years, they haven't been

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Speaker 3: able to reap the benefits. So this year's NBA draft

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Speaker 3: is a perfect argument for iol all right.

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Speaker 2: By the way, once again a reminder at the end

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Speaker 2: deals have been done around the NBA on top of

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Speaker 2: the NBA Draft, has anyone actually done enough to challenge

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Speaker 2: the denver Nuggets for supremacy in the league. We got

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Speaker 2: it covered for you. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin,

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Speaker 2: Rich Rberger Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the

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Speaker 2: tire rack dot Com studios. A lot of NBA news

656
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Speaker 2: going on beyond the draft as suddenly we got big

657
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: names being traded in a lot still sitting there on

658
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Speaker 2: the trading block. But let's talk about one deal that

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Speaker 2: was made that some people feel change the dynamic in

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Speaker 2: terms of a team being even a more serious contender

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Speaker 2: to win an NBA championship, and that was the acquisition

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Speaker 2: of Porsingis by the Boston Celtics in exchange for Marcus Smart.

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Speaker 2: Now Here, here's my thing, Rich, Look at Porsingis. Gives

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Speaker 2: him a big man, although that's a pretty soft big

665
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Speaker 2: man in this day and age. He's not exactly known

666
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Speaker 2: for his rim protection. Nor is he known for his health,

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Speaker 2: although he is coming off one of his healthier seasons,

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Speaker 2: but he's missed a lot of games during the course

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Speaker 2: of his career. On the other hand, Marcus Smart, I

670
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Speaker 2: guess your argument could be we've gone as far as

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Speaker 2: we can possibly go with this group that we have.

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Speaker 2: Now we need to change things up. But in getting

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Speaker 2: rid of Marcus Smart, you're not only getting rid of

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Speaker 2: a guy that two years ago was the NBA's defensive

675
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Speaker 2: Player of the Year. I've never been in that Celtics

676
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Speaker 2: locker room, but from everyone that has been, you hear

677
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: the same thing over and over again. Marcus Smart was

678
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Speaker 2: the glue in that locker room. Yeah, I mean he

679
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: may not be their biggest star, but when things are

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00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: going awry, that one guy that could sort of bring

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Speaker 2: every think back together in that locker room was Marcus Smart. So,

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Speaker 2: as someone that obviously played a sport at the highest level,

683
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Speaker 2: when we talk about exchanging a locker room guy for

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Speaker 2: potentially a need guy at a position where you need

685
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Speaker 2: to get better, how does that trade off look to you.

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Speaker 2: It's so tricky, man.

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Speaker 3: Roster construction is the most difficult and consequential thing that

688
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Speaker 3: an NBA team will do. It's not as important other sports.

689
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: Like you can hide a lot of blemishes on a

690
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Speaker 3: football team, you really can. There's a lot of people

691
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Speaker 3: doing a lot of things, so you can get away

692
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Speaker 3: with some stuff. But on an NBA team, you've got

693
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Speaker 3: to get these guys. You're talking about nine guys basically

694
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Speaker 3: and you've got to get it pretty much perfect in

695
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Speaker 3: order to win a championship. They got to like each other,

696
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: they got to fight for each other, they got to

697
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Speaker 3: like their coach. You need star power.

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Speaker 2: It's so difficult.

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Speaker 3: And so the Boston Celtics are taking a huge risk here.

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Speaker 3: And I give Brad Stevens and the whole culture that

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Speaker 3: he's created and now really has possession of in the

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Speaker 3: front office here with Boston. I give him a lot

703
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 3: of credit. I think is a really bright guy. But

704
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Speaker 3: this is a little bit of selling your soul to

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Speaker 3: win the Grand Prize. This is a little bit of

706
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: like taking the glue guy like you put it, and

707
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Speaker 3: sending him off and saying, all right, we'll take in

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Speaker 3: this guy who has had issues off the court. On

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Speaker 3: the court injuries that have taken him a long time

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Speaker 3: to get back, and his game looks as good as

711
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Speaker 3: it ever has. But is it going to work in Boston?

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Speaker 3: That remains to be seen. Is the team and the

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Speaker 3: complexion of the team going to be completely different now

714
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Speaker 3: with al Marcus Smart, because Tatum and Brown it's not

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Speaker 3: like they're best of friends. And maybe Marcus Smart's influence

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Speaker 3: there is what helped keep things together, So bringing him

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Speaker 3: porzingis losing that potential, calm, deft touch of Marcus Smart.

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Speaker 3: We'll see. I am not high on this. On the

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Speaker 3: side of the of the Boston Celtics. In terms of

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Speaker 3: the three team trade, it might actually be the Memphis

721
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Speaker 3: Grizzlies who made out the best.

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Speaker 2: Well again, we're and we're gonna go over. A number

723
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Speaker 2: of these deals have been made over the course of

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Speaker 2: the show today. The other obviously major acquisition was the

725
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Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns making the Bradley Beal deal, and again I'm

726
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Speaker 2: i they gutted their team to make the Kevin Durant deal.

727
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Speaker 2: In other words, the depth that they had that led

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Speaker 2: to a sixty four win season the year before was

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Speaker 2: gutted in order to bring in Kevin Durant with the

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Speaker 2: thought that once we get to the playoffs, Durants the

731
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Speaker 2: guy that can carry us to the finish line. And

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Speaker 2: then they've ran into guess what a better team, which

733
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Speaker 2: is the Denver Nuggets. Right now, Now you go out

734
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Speaker 2: and get Bradley bil And by the way, I like Beal,

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Speaker 2: but when you look at a guy that has played

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Speaker 2: his entire career with the Wizards putting up some huge numbers.

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Speaker 2: He had back to back thirty plus points seasons. These

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Speaker 2: are numbers that are empty. They didn't result in wins.

739
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys in the NBA that put

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Speaker 2: up really glowing numbers on teams that aren't really in contention.

741
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Speaker 2: So now you have a dynamic in Phoenix where you

742
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Speaker 2: have Kevin Durant, you have Booker, and you got Bal Kenny.

743
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Speaker 2: Guys are very similar games in their scorers Chris Bosh.

744
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Speaker 2: That's the trick. So when Bosh went to Miami with

745
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Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade and Lebron James, he allowed those two to

746
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Speaker 2: be stars and he took.

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Speaker 3: The what Beal's game. Beal's game is He's a scorer.

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Speaker 3: That's his game. But so is Chris Bosh. Chris Bosh

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Speaker 3: was a scorer in Toronto. He absolutely was go back

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Speaker 3: and revisit his numbers. He absolutely was. I will not

751
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Speaker 3: hear of it. He was an offensive threat in Toronto

752
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Speaker 3: and he went to Miami and guess what he said,

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Speaker 3: I get it. The greater good needs to be served.

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Speaker 3: H If Bradley Beal can do that in Phoenix, that

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Speaker 3: can become a pretty sweet setup.

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Speaker 2: But it's a big if, all Right, you got rid

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Speaker 2: of Moni Williams and replace him Frank Vogel.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Okay, well, all right, an obvious he's an

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Speaker 3: NBA champion.

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Speaker 2: But Frank Vogel as a coach, going back to his

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Speaker 2: pacer days, is a defensive guy. So let's add up

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Speaker 2: how many times he's seen Kevin Durant and Devin Booker

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Speaker 2: and Bradley Beal on the All defensive team.

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Speaker 3: That's a sero and that's exactly why you're bringing Frank Vogel.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna solve that conundru. I'm sure when he tells Bale,

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Speaker 2: I need you to be a lockdown defender, like get

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Speaker 2: out of here. I will continue on much more coming up.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, rolling along here on a

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Speaker 2: have multiple TVs that we can watch a variety of

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Speaker 2: things on and they are replaying the Super Bowl twenty

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Speaker 2: one matchup between the New York Giants and the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 2: This game is most famous for the end of the

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Speaker 2: game when Phil Simms became the first guy to look

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Speaker 2: into the camera and say, Phil Simms, you just won

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. I'm going to Disneyland. When that first

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Speaker 2: came on, everyone's like, how did that happen? Like, because

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Speaker 2: he's on the sidelines and he just turns to the

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Speaker 2: camera and says, I'm going to Disneyland. There was no

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Speaker 2: context because it had never been done before. So when

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Speaker 2: you first saw it's like, how did they know he

788
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Speaker 2: was going to say that? Because he just He's like

789
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Speaker 2: you could see he's on the sidelines.

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Speaker 3: They just won the Super Bowl. And then some guy

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Speaker 3: walks up to him. He goes, Phil Simms, now that

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Speaker 3: you've won the Super Bowl, what are you going to

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Speaker 3: do next?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to Disneyland. And he was like, dud, how

795
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Speaker 2: incredible is that for Disneyland to have him say that?

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Speaker 2: And then they and use it and then you found

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Speaker 2: out later the whole thing is yes, it's all.

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Speaker 3: It was all ginned up behind the scenes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But this game that's we're watching right now in

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Speaker 2: the NFL network, I was I headed up the stack

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Speaker 2: crew for this game. The league hired me to head

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Speaker 2: up the sack crew. The game was at the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I was working for the LA Raiders. We were the

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Speaker 2: host team and I worked a fourteen hour day that day. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I got a paycheck for fifty dollars from the NFL.

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00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: Fifty dollars. But when I called after I got the

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Speaker 2: fifty dollars paycheck, I go, there must be a mistake.

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Speaker 3: They're like, oh no, no, no, no, Steve, Steve, Steve, we got

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Speaker 3: something special. So I was born on February fourteenth of

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty six. So when when that Super Bowl happened

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Speaker 3: between the Giants and the Denver Bronx January of eighty seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: growing up in New York as a I'm not even

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Speaker 3: a one year old, I watched Phil Simms look at

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Speaker 3: the camera and say I'm going to Disneyland, and I

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Speaker 3: told my parents right then and there, at eleven months

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Speaker 3: oh one day, I will too playing a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: So your perspective on this game is a little different

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Speaker 2: than Minewitch.

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Speaker 3: I remember none of it. No, I don't even know

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Speaker 3: where it was. Where was this was at the Rose Ball?

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Speaker 3: So there it is at the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the NFL did send me something besides the

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Speaker 2: fifty yard check. They promised me it was going to

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Speaker 2: be something special, and it was this little package and

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Speaker 2: I open it up. It was one of those loose

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Speaker 2: sight paper weights with a fake Super Bowl ticket in it.

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Speaker 2: And so the next year the game was in San Diego,

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Speaker 2: the dun Williams game. You remember, when the Redskins as

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Speaker 2: they were then known, blew out the Broncos. The league

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Speaker 2: called me again because I was still working for the Raiders. Hey, Steve,

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Speaker 2: great job at the Rose Bowl. Can we get And

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Speaker 2: I said, don't even ask. The answer is no. You said,

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Speaker 2: don't even ask.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'll be there as long as you have

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Speaker 3: another paperwork.

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Speaker 2: Do not ask. The answer is no. You know what

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Speaker 2: I did do on that San Diego game? Would you do?

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Speaker 2: Howie Long had asked me to help him. He was

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Speaker 2: doing a column for USA Today. He asked me to

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Speaker 2: help him right the column because I was, you know,

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Speaker 2: doing the publications everything. So essentially I wrote the column

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Speaker 2: but with his input right right of course, and it

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00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: was printed and everything else. He gave me two Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl tickets for that game that I then sold sold

845
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Speaker 2: for a tidy profit. So they so that that was

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Speaker 2: worth it much bigger than that fifty dollars paycheck.

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Speaker 3: That I can be on the statute of limitations now

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Speaker 3: that you can't get busted by the league. I can't

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Speaker 3: hear what Monty's saying. She wanted away, can you turn off?

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Speaker 2: No, no, she doesn't. So she's still okay. I'm still

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Speaker 2: trying to recover from her sleepless night that she well

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Speaker 2: got full up. Yes, all right, Hey, I want to

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Speaker 2: get back to something we were talking about earlier before

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Speaker 2: we went to John Paul Morosi about the USFL. So,

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Speaker 2: I had this playoff game yesterday and there was a

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Speaker 2: fifty five yard touchdown pass that was called back due

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Speaker 2: to a penalty. But in the USFL they have the

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Speaker 2: Scotch Juge who happens to be our buddy, Mike Pereira,

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Speaker 2: and they reviewed the play and the penalty, which was

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Speaker 2: like a holding call or illegal use of the hands

861
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Speaker 2: by alignment. He said, no, there was no penalty on

862
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: that play. Touchdown stance. Can you ever see the NFL

863
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: having a scot.

864
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 3: Judge that would overturn a penalty that nagated a touchdown

865
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 3: to put the touchdown back on the board. We kind

866
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: of already do now it's not given the catch. I

867
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: had never seen a penalty reversed in the history of

868
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 3: the NFL, well, not a penalty reverse. But I'm saying

869
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: we already have the infrastructure in place. Every single scoring

870
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: play is reviewed, every single turnover is reviewed, and so

871
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: as a result, you get instant replay, and you get

872
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: somebody in New York confirming yes, that is a touchdown.

873
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: You get instant replay, Yes, in fact, that is a fumble.

874
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: Possession goes to the I'm.

875
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: Asking you, can you ever see the day that a

876
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: review of a play would reverse a penel? I think so.

877
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: I do think we'll get there eventually. We've already had

878
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: the trial with the pass interference did not work well,

879
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: but I think we'll get there again.

880
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: Sam, what do you got?

881
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 5: You guys are talking about Super Bowl twenty one that's

882
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 5: in the NFL network right now, and is that the

883
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 5: father of Ladi McConkie, who is a tight end or

884
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 5: a wide receiver for Georgia currently is was playing film

885
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 5: McConkie was playing in this Gil mccakee's father of Ladd McConkey.

886
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: It sounds about right. Yeah, I looked that up last year.

887
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, there's the film mcconkee, which, by the way,

888
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 3: sounds like Kaki. Sounds like something you would say to

889
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 3: a bartender like, hey, could you check if my dad

890
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: film mcconkee at this bar and you just shouted across

891
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: the room stud under.

892
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: The pool table. By the way, the other memorable thing

893
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: about this game for me, and I told this as Sam,

894
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: was so in those days, the Rose Bowl only had

895
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: a single elevator. They have three elevators now, but in

896
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: those days they had one elevator to go up and

897
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: down to the press box. So you can imagine on

898
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowl Sunday, the line to get on this elevator,

899
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of people going up and down

900
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: with yeah, was lengthy. And so we're all standing in

901
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 2: this line because I had to go up and down.

902
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: I was there all morning setting up the press box

903
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 2: and everything else, and we're all on the elevator. When

904
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: John Madden was a CBS game with Pat Summer, all

905
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 2: and John Matt and Madden shows up and he needs

906
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: obviously to get up to the press box. So we

907
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: got I don't know, as full as many people can

908
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: get on the elevator, and he looks in and he

909
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 2: waves everybody off.

910
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: Interesting, everybody off, get off the boat, because he would

911
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: only go up the elevator by himself. So Lad McConkie,

912
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: by the way, yes to what Sam was saying.

913
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: Phil McConkie's absolutely son of a You mean they're not the.

914
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 3: Only two mcconkey's in the world of a star high

915
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: school quarterback over at it's all in the high Benji

916
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: Benji McConkie, Benjie McConkie.

917
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: Is that's dead.

918
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, my mistake. I think I actually did look up

919
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 5: that factor. They're not related. The good news is, though, I.

920
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: Will say this though, if you don't know this, not

921
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: On Sims is the son of Phil Sims. Okay, I

922
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: can do that. One can confirm. You can confirm that.

923
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for that, Thank you, thank you

924
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 2: for well. I just I love this idea, and it's

925
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 2: especially when Pereira is involved, because I mean his long

926
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: association with the NFL. Really the pre eminent review guy

927
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: that's been used on Fox obviously for many, many years.

928
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: Mike used to be a regular guest on our show.

929
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 2: The idea of the USFL went there, uh and brought

930
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: credibility to the sky judge by putting someone of the uh,

931
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: you know, the resume of a Mike Pereira in charge,

932
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: and he reversed the call. Let me say, and I'm

933
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: sorry the call in the field was wrong. That was

934
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: not a penalty touchdown. Stand.

935
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: Let me tell you where that'll be helpful is as

936
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: we get further and further down this rabbit hole. And

937
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: I'm sure at some point today we're going to talk

938
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: about the NFL reinforcing their gambling rules which were in place,

939
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: but laying it out in six easy rules. If you

940
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: just follow these six easy gambling rules, you too will

941
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 3: be able to enjoy sports betting as a professional athlete.

942
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: We'll get to that. But as gambling becomes more and

943
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 3: more important to more and more Americans, based on sports

944
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 3: betting apps and based on the fact that in each

945
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: each state here, pretty soon you're going to be able

946
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: to open up your phone and choose which sports betting

947
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: app you want to play your money with. They're going

948
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: to need somebody to step in. I think there will

949
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 3: come a time where it's a necessity to step in

950
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 3: and get it right, quote unquote, because there are times

951
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: where there there are egregious penalties, egregious penalties that result

952
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 3: in games one are lost, and.

953
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: This happens, money won are lost. Again, this is an.

954
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: Important point college football. This happens. It happens in the NFL,

955
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: It happens with referees in the NBA, it happens with

956
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: umpires in Major League Baseball. And when somebody has hundreds

957
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: of thousands of dollars on the line, which many times

958
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 3: they do, if they have a parlay that hinges on

959
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 3: what happens on the field that or if it's a

960
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 3: big enough game like the Super Bowl for example, those

961
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 3: consequential moments are so intensified that you've got to have

962
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 3: somebody who can step in and say no, no, no, no, no, no,

963
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 3: that was not roughing the passer. We're not calling that,

964
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: and have that be the outcome of the game. Oh.

965
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: I think this is a game changer. And what we

966
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: saw in display. Jason Garrett was doing the color commentary,

967
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 2: one of the analysts on that game, and he said,

968
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: I hope the NFL is watching this, yeah, And he

969
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: brought up the gambling aspect. Oh yeah, because in this

970
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: day and age of social media, where these plays are

971
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: shown over and over and over again, that's a difference

972
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: in winning or losing a bet. And with the NFL

973
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: okay on the other side, I want to get into

974
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: this because, like you said, the NFL seems to be

975
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 2: scrambling right now to define exactly how a professional athlete

976
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: can wager, not just the athletes, but anyone associated with

977
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: the shield. So this includes coach, is, front office personnel,

978
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: any and why they're in such a predicament, especially when

979
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: it comes to officiating in this league. Keep it right here,

980
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Hartman and Rich Rnberger

981
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 2: here Fox Sports Sunday Live from our Tirac dot Com studios.

982
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: We were talking about the USFL playoff game in which

983
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: a penalty that wiped a touchdown off the board was

984
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: reversed and the touchdown stands. Could we ever see a

985
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: similar situation in the NFL. And this would not even

986
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: be a conversation if it would not be for the

987
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 2: infiltration of gambling in the NBA and the association. Now

988
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: billions of dollars of revenue generated by gambling establishments being

989
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: funneled into the NFL, meaning of course that the outcome

990
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 2: of the games is of imperative importance to a league

991
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 2: from a business standpoint. So is this going to change

992
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: officiating around the NFL? And I want to get back

993
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: to the reaction to the non call that Saints fans

994
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: are still complaining about that led the Rams to a

995
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: championship in the NFC Championship Game, and the fact that

996
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: then the next year they decided, all right, we're going

997
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 2: to be able to review pass interference calls or non calls,

998
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: and it didn't work. In fact, it was worse than that.

999
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it almost seemed like they were hell bent

1000
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: on making sure that it wasn't going to work because

1001
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: they just weren't reviewing reversing calls. That was the bottom line.

1002
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 2: You would watch and say, Okay, that was a questionable

1003
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 2: pass interference call. Let's go to the booth, and they're like, whatever,

1004
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: whether it was called or not called, whatever, the call

1005
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: in the field was no, it stands so they weren't

1006
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: willing to reverse that call. But since then, the infiltration

1007
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: of ambling in the NFL has exploded. Oh, yes, is

1008
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: five years later. So now the league knows that they're

1009
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 2: going to have to do something. The question is, rich,

1010
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: how do you go about it? What is the right

1011
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 2: way to handle this with so much riding on the

1012
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: outcomes now even more so than ever on the outcome

1013
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: of these games.

1014
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 3: Well, I like the way that they handle the turnovers

1015
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 3: and the touchdown reviews in the NFL because it's relatively quick.

1016
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: It's pretty seamless. It's pretty fast. When you have any

1017
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: scoring play or any turnover, it is reviewed by New

1018
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 3: York and a lot of times it's in a hustle.

1019
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: It's real quick. It's like you know, and you don't

1020
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 3: have to labor over the easy ones where it's a

1021
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 3: walk off, you know, eighty yard run or catch where

1022
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: the defender falls down on the route and the receiver

1023
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: just trots into in the end zone, like those are

1024
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: obvious ones. But there are some close calls and they're

1025
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: pretty they're pretty snappy about it, which is good. Here's

1026
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 3: what I think you'd do. You do it the same

1027
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 3: way the USFL has done it. You instituted for a season.

1028
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: Only you say we're just going to do this in

1029
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 3: the most egregious of moments for any scoring play or

1030
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: any game, or any play of consequence where the outcome

1031
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 3: of the play can be determined. Maybe only do it

1032
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter at first, Like maybe you say

1033
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter it's a different time of the

1034
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 3: game because everything's so critical. It gives New York the

1035
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: ability to step over whatever was called on the field

1036
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,959
Speaker 3: if it's an egregiously wrong foul. Right, so hard stop

1037
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 3: there for a moment to just discuss what this would

1038
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 3: mean to the gambling industry and what it would mean

1039
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 3: to the NFL, because what are you selling in the NFL?

1040
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 3: I always say this, You're selling hope. You're selling hope

1041
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 3: when you dash hope because people can't trust you. That's when,

1042
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you get a terrible reputation unless

1043
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 3: people will be as interested in doing business with you

1044
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: or like for example, and officials, they get dogged all

1045
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 3: the time because they gotta they gotta, they gotta handle

1046
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 3: upholding the rule book. It's like law enforcement. You know,

1047
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 3: everybody should have a pretty good feeling about police officers,

1048
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 3: but a lot of people don't because have you ever

1049
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 3: been ticketed where you didn't do something wrong, where you

1050
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 3: got caught speeding but you weren't. Or maybe you're a

1051
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 3: mile over the speed limit and you just hit a

1052
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: guy who's at a hard line needs to make a

1053
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: quota or something like that. Have you ever been in well,

1054
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 3: I'll give you an example. And I don't want to

1055
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 3: get too dark here, but like the Catholic Church, it's

1056
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: all about rules, and all of a sudden you hear

1057
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 3: all this awfulness coming out about sexual abuses, Like when

1058
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 3: you are when your job is to officiate, when your

1059
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: job is to be in a position where you say

1060
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 3: I'm I'm the rules and you're gonna follow what I say,

1061
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: You've got to get it right. Otherwise people will be

1062
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 3: less interested in doing business with you, will be less

1063
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: comfortable with the idea of whatever product you're selling them.

1064
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 3: So they've got to find a way to get it right.

1065
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 3: And I think that the USFL has done a nice job.

1066
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: I think it would work at the NFL level. You

1067
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 3: talk about tickets. You know, one time, and this is

1068
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,959
Speaker 3: was maybe barely out of college. I get pulled over

1069
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 3: for what the guy told me was on a complete

1070
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 3: stop at a stop sign, and I was so angry

1071
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 3: and I signed the ticket and I threw the pin. Yeah,

1072
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 3: look that, I I mean, I look back, like, did

1073
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 3: you actually throw a pin with a police officer standing there?

1074
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 2: Now? This guy was insanely cool. Yeah, he didn't say

1075
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: a word, He turned around, he picked up the pin,

1076
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: handed me the ticket. Yeah. Yeah, I mean he could

1077
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: have pulled me in had he done that. But look

1078
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: at it here here, here's the thing about reversing panels.

1079
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: But had though yeah, okay, yeah, really really quickly because

1080
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: I thought that it was a bogus It was a

1081
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 2: completely unjobbed.

1082
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 3: Listen, that's the thing about sports. Sports aren't inherently fair

1083
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 3: because somebody's got to lose, right, But fairness when it's

1084
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: built in. It's like when you're playing driveway basket ball

1085
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: with your buddy and you play with the one buddy

1086
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 3: who you know, it feels like, okay, we got it.

1087
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 3: We got some sense of you know, wins and losses,

1088
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 3: and sometimes it stinks and sometimes you know, you get

1089
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 3: beat bad whatever. But the guy who you played driveway

1090
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: basketball with who's always calling fouls on you, right, especially

1091
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 3: when he's losing to catch back up, that's the guy

1092
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 3: who stopped playing driveway basketball with because you're like, this

1093
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: isn't fair. We're not doing this the right way. That's

1094
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: when you lose interest. And so if you're going to

1095
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: talk about that feeling you had when you got a

1096
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: ticket you weren't supposed to get, and it's both of

1097
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: you know he's wrong, right. That's the other thing is

1098
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: it's roiling in your gut. The NFL can't blatantly say, yeah,

1099
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: we really got that call wrong. And that's the reason

1100
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 3: why the NFC champion they ended up they were forced

1101
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 3: to have to address it. They were forced because the

1102
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 3: public said, this isn't fair, and everybody knows it. So

1103
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 3: if you have a way to come over the top

1104
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 3: and make it right immediately, people will think your game's

1105
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 3: more fair.

1106
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: See in Major League Baseball, remember the Galaaga perfect game

1107
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 2: that wasn't oh yeah, because I mean because and and

1108
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 2: the and the umpire admitted he blew it. Yeah, he

1109
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: blew the call. He blew the call and cast this

1110
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: guy immortality throwing a perfect game.

1111
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 3: Was out at first and he called them.

1112
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 2: So I had a veteran umpire on the day after

1113
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: he admitted that he had made a mistake on the call,

1114
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: and I said, what did you see? And he goes

1115
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: the only thing I saw was the guy had the

1116
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: call right and should never have admitted he made the

1117
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 2: wrong call. I said, what are you talking about? The

1118
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 2: replay Kurt clearly showed he was out at first base,

1119
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: and this veteran umpire goes, that's not what I saw.

1120
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 2: So since then, Major League Baseball has introduced replay and

1121
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: reversed a lot of calls. Now, it's not a penalty

1122
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: or a foul. See, this is where it's that gray

1123
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: area in baseball. It's very simple. It's strike ball. It's

1124
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 2: a fair foul. It's safer out. That's all. They don't

1125
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: call penalties. They don't have any kind of.

1126
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 3: Well unless you're like blocking the plate or but it's

1127
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 3: not a penalty line.

1128
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: See, this is the thing. A penalty We say it

1129
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: all the time right in the NFL. Well, like you

1130
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 2: could literally call holding on seemingly any play, like there's

1131
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: some sort of holding. The idea is is that at

1132
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: a play is at a point of attack? Like did

1133
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 2: this play happen because this guy held? Maybe the guy

1134
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: was holding on the other side, but it really had

1135
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: no impact on the direction of the play. Same thing

1136
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: with fouls. I mean, it's so arbitrary. Why is that

1137
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 2: a foul. Why is that not a foul? Subject? And

1138
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: so this is something because it's so arbitrary, really judgment

1139
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 2: calls across the board that it seems so difficult to

1140
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: reverse a call because all you're saying is the guy

1141
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: that made the call saw something, and now we're seeing

1142
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: we're having a different interpretation of the same play.

1143
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: But going back to your traffic stuff, Yeah, right, So

1144
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 3: the cop you say, I came to a complete stop.

1145
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: Officer at got read at that stop sign, and he goes,

1146
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 3: you didn't. You didn't stay on your breaks for long enough.

1147
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: You you stopped for a fraction of a sex. That's

1148
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: exactly what he said. And so he goes, so I

1149
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: see it as a rolling stop, and you said, well,

1150
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 3: I disagree. Well, there is subjectivity baked into even something

1151
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: that feels like a hard and fast rule because you stopped.

1152
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: You knew it, because your wheels stop moving and then

1153
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 3: you had to restart them. Right, But to his eye,

1154
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 3: and maybe it's a very well trained eye, twenty years

1155
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: on the force and never had a single complaint about

1156
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 3: any stop sign infraction, and this is the first one.

1157
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 3: And you're gonna tell me I'm wrong. Soun like all

1158
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: of a sudden, subjectivity does get baked into even what

1159
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 3: seems like a black and white situation, it's not. There's

1160
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: always gray area in life. There's always gray. There's always

1161
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 3: an opinion on exactly how a rule should be dictated

1162
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 3: and how it should be performed and executed and followed.

1163
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 3: And so I'm a big believer in this. When you

1164
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 3: have something egregious happening, and the Saints Rams NFC championship

1165
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 3: game is a perfect example of a non call that

1166
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: should have been. When you have something egregious happened, like

1167
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 3: a pass interference or a roughing the quarterback or something

1168
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,959
Speaker 3: of great consequence to the outcome of a game, where

1169
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 3: it is very clear the officials just missed it, they

1170
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: got it wrong. You need to have some sort of

1171
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 3: some sort of to you to borrow the term sky judge,

1172
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 3: to say no, no, no, no no, because the betting public

1173
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 3: they're confidence in us. That's that if we're performing a

1174
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: fair service, and if you screw them, you screw us,

1175
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 3: and then everybody misses out.

1176
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 2: That's the difference now. And that's where we're at now.

1177
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: As far as some new rules or a clarification of

1178
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: the rules in terms of gambling in the NFL. We're

1179
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: going to get to all that, but first it is

1180
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: that time once again to find out what is trending.

1181
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 2: Moncy Bolognoso, What what did you eat last night?

1182
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 8: I just had a lot of fried food, like, yeah,

1183
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 8: you know, French fries, onion rings, Mazzarelli sticks.

1184
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: Wait a second, by the way, you're you're mentioning something

1185
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: so rich has his own hammer, the Orne Burger. Yeah,

1186
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: and remember we went over there that one time and

1187
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: they had that fried platter that they brought out.

1188
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 7: Oh so magical it was.

1189
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 3: It's like, it's the craziest thing you ever seen there.

1190
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 2: Yes, it was pretty much what you talked about, but

1191
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: just think about broad food, like the mountain size worth

1192
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: of fried everything.

1193
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 7: And obviously there's also alcohol involved, so you.

1194
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

1195
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 8: My stomach was just like not happy with me and

1196
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 8: one in the morning, that's all it was. And so

1197
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 8: I didn't My dog was snoring, though my dog snored.

1198
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 7: The entire night, had no issues with me. And so

1199
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 7: I'm trying to go back.

1200
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 8: To sleep and the dog is snoring like a dinosaur

1201
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 8: because he's so big and like an I have a

1202
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 8: pit bull.

1203
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 7: Oh wow, I have a pity, but he has to

1204
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 7: be mixed with something.

1205
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: Thud. Pit is really big.

1206
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 7: Oh he's huge.

1207
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 8: He well, he used to be ninety three pounds, but

1208
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 8: he got cancer in his legs, so he amputated his

1209
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 8: leg over two years ago and he's, you know, doing

1210
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 8: he's doing pretty well for his age.

1211
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: He's a three legged, three legged pit.

1212
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 7: He's about eight five pounds.

1213
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, I'll tell you what.

1214
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 3: That's one way to lose weight.

1215
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, Tatalm.

1216
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's a sweetheart.

1217
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 7: He's the sweetest dog.

1218
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 8: I joke that people are like, oh, you know, he'll

1219
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 8: defend you if something happens.

1220
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 7: I'm like, I'm not sure, y'all. I don't know.

1221
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 8: It's I hope he would, but he's such a sweet dog.

1222
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 7: He loves people. He's just really big and very strong.

1223
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 6: You know.

1224
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure these guys weigh the si How the

1225
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 3: hell do this on a leak?

1226
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 8: You know, I think some people have feared when they

1227
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 8: see me walking that I can't hold him. Yeah, and

1228
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,919
Speaker 8: also he's a pity, so some people cross the street

1229
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 8: they don't want to deal with it.

1230
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 2: He's sort of like rich, right, you know, big guy,

1231
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: strong guy, but you know, really a.

1232
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 7: Sweetheart when he was growing up.

1233
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, we were at the park and he

1234
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 8: grabbed like either a groundhog or a squirrel. I couldn't

1235
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 8: tell what it was, right, but he found one. He

1236
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 8: grabbed it and he shook it and threw it.

1237
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 7: Up like to play with it.

1238
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 8: Obviously he killed it, and I was like, oh my godness,

1239
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 8: he's like Lenny of of mice and men.

1240
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 7: Wow, that's how I described him. He like just doesn't

1241
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 7: know how big he is. George, and I am his

1242
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 7: George exactly.

1243
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: A go back.

1244
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 7: I'm gonna read the book and cry. Let's talk baseball, guys.

1245
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 8: The Twins have tied the game in De Troy against

1246
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 8: the Tigers three apiece.

1247
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 7: They're about to start the bottom of the eighth inning.

1248
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 8: The Phillies were on the scoreboard first, but the Mets

1249
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 8: have tied the game. Pete alnso Back already drove in

1250
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 8: two runs for New York, so it's a tie game

1251
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 8: two a piece. Bottom of the third inning. The Orioles

1252
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 8: have tied the game against the Mariners to a piece

1253
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 8: top of the fourth. The Rangers are beating the Yankees

1254
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 8: three to two in the Bronx bottom of the third,

1255
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 8: blue Jays shutting out the A's four zero top of

1256
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 8: the fourth. The Braves have scored first against the Reds

1257
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 8: one zero top of the third, Raised topping the Royals

1258
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 8: one zero top of the fourth, Brewers beating the Guardians

1259
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 8: three to one top of the fourth, and the Marlins

1260
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 8: have scored first against the Pirates in his one zero

1261
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 8: top of the fourth. The two game series in London

1262
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 8: all wrapped up between the Cardinals and the and the Cubs.

1263
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 8: They split the series Cardinals one today, seven to five.

1264
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 8: Unfortunately for the Cubs or ace pitcher Marcus Strowman did

1265
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 8: leave the game in the fourth inning with a blister

1266
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 8: on his right index finger.

1267
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 6: Ow.

1268
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 7: How about this, Paul Goldschmidt.

1269
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 8: Became the first big league player to play a regular

1270
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 8: season game in five different countries. Like, that's pretty cool,

1271
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 8: So USA, Australia, Mexico, Canada and England.

1272
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 2: Paul Goldschmidt, Oh, you play long enough? It all right,

1273
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 2: that's part of that story.

1274
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 7: That's that's unbelievable, right, regular season? Yeah, that's what I

1275
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 7: thought too.

1276
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 2: I know that I am in the minority in this,

1277
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: but I'm sorry, I just I can't get excited about

1278
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 2: any American sport taking it overseas. Yes, I understand that

1279
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: we live in this you know international world now and

1280
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: you know you want to you bring in a new

1281
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: audience and everything, but you know London for baseball.

1282
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 7: What do you talk? It sounds like you're saying you

1283
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 7: hate puppies and ice cream?

1284
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: What do I mean? Like, I'm not always the biggest

1285
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 2: ice cream fan?

1286
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Speaker 7: Whatever? But this is awesome. No, this is this is

1287
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 7: not a hot take. This is not a hot take.

1288
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 3: What you just said you don't like ice cream?

1289
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: I didn't.

1290
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't.

1291
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 3: I don't like puppies.

1292
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 2: What I love puppies. But as far as I'm not,

1293
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest ice cream fan.

1294
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 7: I honestly think I'm just like offended.

1295
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 5: I'm mostly ice cream, like he's made up mostly if

1296
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 5: I I.

1297
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 2: Mean, if you have you First of all, I'm not

1298
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 2: a big dessert guy.

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01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 3: Okay I am, if you cut me open, I'm a

1300
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 3: carvel frozen ice cream than I have.

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01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 2: I have seen rich a lot of different desserts.

1302
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 3: This, this is frosting.

1303
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 2: This is yeah. But I just I I understand it,

1304
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 2: and I'm not you know it just I don't get

1305
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 2: excited to watch the Cardinals and the Cubs playing in London.

1306
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 2: Well that okay, yeah, yeah, but.

1307
01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 5: Ice cream Steve is Steve is anti international travel as well.

1308
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 5: I don't care about anywhere else.

1309
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 3: I just like to hear.

1310
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 2: My biggest thing is is that the California. There are

1311
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 2: cities in America that are void of certain sports that

1312
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 2: I think should get precedent over some international Okay, that's rise, okay.

1313
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough.

1314
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 5: Steve's the idea of a vacation is going to South Bend,

1315
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 5: Indiana and reading football SATs.

1316
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 2: Yep, don't give me right now, I'm dark library. Actually,

1317
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: my next trips to Atlanta to the College Football Hall

1318
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: of Fame. But that's another story. You think of you

1319
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 2: a dad, ice cream after all that fried food. It

1320
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 2: would have made you sleep better, I think.

1321
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 8: So That's probably what I needed, something sweet, and I

1322
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 8: did not have anything sweet at.

1323
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 7: The end of my mind, anything like that.

1324
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, Monzy, Well hopefully you'll be better you

1325
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 9: have anything else? Yeah, living a dream, Moncey belangyas all right,

1326
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 9: we will have more Monty later.

1327
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 2: But all right, let's get back to the NFL. That

1328
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: seems to be scrambling right now to try to figure

1329
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 2: out why guys who are placing bets on something other

1330
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 2: than the NFL are facing such harsh penalties. So it

1331
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: seems like every week we're getting a new clarification of

1332
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 2: the rules of like what you can do, on what

1333
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 2: you can't do, and why it would make a difference

1334
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 2: for you. Let's say, making a phone bet on company

1335
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 2: grounds is not good, but if you leave the parking

1336
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: lot and go across the street, it's okay. What is this? Yeah, Rich,

1337
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 2: I mean come on now, I mean, if you're working

1338
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 2: with the Players Union, your head must be spinning right

1339
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 2: now because it seems like they're almost changing the rules

1340
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:37,839
Speaker 2: on a daily basis.

1341
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 3: Well, here's my problem with it is, and I was

1342
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 3: talking about this yesterday a little bit too. The simpler

1343
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 3: the better. I'm a parent, and when I give convoluted

1344
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 3: instructions to my young kids, they will inevitably screw something up.

1345
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 3: And you know who, I blame myself because I go

1346
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 3: I didn't put this in an approachable way. I didn't

1347
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 3: put this in an understandable way. I didn't make sure

1348
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 3: they were paying attention maybe when I delivered this information.

1349
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,919
Speaker 3: And I feel like all of those things. The NFL

1350
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 3: and frankly the NFLPA, because I don't think they've pushed

1351
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 3: back hard enough on this, are guilty of this. So

1352
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,839
Speaker 3: there's gonna be more suspensions. They just added six rules

1353
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 3: to an already pretty confusing process, and even though those

1354
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 3: are probably gonna be prominently posted in multiple places around

1355
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 3: these thirty two facilities in the NFL, to me, you're

1356
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 3: still going to have issues of compliance. So what I

1357
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 3: suggest is you have less rules, not more. What I

1358
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 3: suggest is you saying, okay, you can bet on the NFL,

1359
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 3: don't bet against your own team.

1360
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: That's it. That's the whole point. The only time that

1361
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 2: anyone should be suspended or expelled from the league, any league,

1362
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: is if you actually bet on your own team. About this, Okay,

1363
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: you can, you can bet against your own team. You

1364
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: can still exactly just don't bet against you You could bet.

1365
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: In fact, again, like I said, the only rule there

1366
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 2: is don't bet against your team, So that means you

1367
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: could bet for your team to win. In fact, I

1368
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 2: think that would be a good thing.

1369
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 3: The other rule I would put in place no player props,

1370
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 3: because you don't want a situation where you have a

1371
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 3: receiver go well, I'm gonna take the under on my

1372
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 3: touches this game because I know.

1373
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 2: I participate in fantasy football. This is what I don't understand.

1374
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 2: If you have a quarterback that has a fantasy football team,

1375
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 2: and he has two of his own teammates on his team,

1376
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 2: and he's controlling whether that guy's going to get the

1377
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 2: pass or this guy's going to get the pass to

1378
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: score a touchdown, and as barion on his they seem

1379
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: to be okay with them.

1380
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 3: See and why my point is this, because everything should

1381
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 3: be okay except for betting against your own team exactly

1382
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 3: like so player props. It's too direct to me because

1383
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 3: there are too many players who can screw with that.

1384
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 3: Like where yardage you could suppress it somehow, like all

1385
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 3: of a sudden, a quarterback starts throwing passes out of

1386
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 3: bounds or skying them over receiver's head because he took

1387
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 3: the under on his own yardage that game. You know,

1388
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 3: like things like that. So you don't want players betting

1389
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 3: on player props. You have that be off limits to

1390
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 3: all players, and you allow players to bet on the

1391
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 3: NFL except against their own team. And honestly, those are

1392
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 3: my only two rules. The rest of this nonsense. Betting

1393
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 3: while you're at work, betting while you're on the team,

1394
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 3: play betting while you're in you're visiting a city, in

1395
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 3: the hotel with the team, walking through a sports book.

1396
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 3: You're not allowed to do that per the new rules.

1397
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 3: Like all this stuff to me is stupid, it's superfluous.

1398
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 3: It's intentionally confusing or maybe unintentionally confusing, but trust me,

1399
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 3: it will confuse players. I say less rules, not more.

1400
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 2: John Dad who led the Pete Rose investigation, he was

1401
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: a friend of my former partner way back in the day,

1402
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 2: Philly Billy Warrendale. Okay, and so we had John Dowd

1403
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 2: on our show a lot to talk about the Pete

1404
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 2: Rose situation. And I asked him, in your Dowd report,

1405
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 2: I don't see anything here that said that Pete Rose

1406
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 2: bet against the Reds. Did you find any evidence, any

1407
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 2: evidence that Pete Rose ever placed a bet against the Reds?

1408
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: He goes, No, he goes. But there were days when

1409
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: he bet on the team, and there were days when

1410
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 2: he didn't bet on the team. I'm like, gee, I

1411
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 2: wonder he didn't bet on his team when he had

1412
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: his number five starter going against the ace of the

1413
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 2: other team. Why would he bet on his own team?

1414
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 3: By the way, what's fine, Which is fine, the.

1415
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: Idea was well, but he was tipping off people that

1416
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 2: they were unlikely to win.

1417
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: I go.

1418
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 2: They didn't need his tip off. If I'm looking to

1419
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: bet on the Reds that day and I see they

1420
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: got their fifth starter against the ace of the other team,

1421
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: guess what. I'm not going to bet on the Reds

1422
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 2: that day. I didn't need Pete Rose to tell me that.

1423
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: It was so ridiculous the argument that he was trying

1424
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 2: to make. But the bottom line was I asked him

1425
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: time and again, do you have any evidence, whether he

1426
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 2: was a player for the Reds or a manager you're Reds,

1427
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,839
Speaker 2: did you ever see any bet placed by him against

1428
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 2: the team? And the answer was no, he's never once

1429
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: bet against them. Here's I go. So what's the problem then?

1430
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 3: So the NFL is going to I'm talking about the owners,

1431
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 3: the thirty two owners, the ownership groups. They're going to

1432
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 3: pocket millions and tens of millions and hundreds of millions

1433
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,799
Speaker 3: and billions of dollars over say the next decade, oh alone,

1434
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 3: the next decade alone from the gambling industry. They're gonna

1435
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 3: accept money there to the official sports book of the

1436
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 3: Las Vegas Raiders, the official sports book of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1437
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 3: Trust me, it's coming for everyone, and they're gonna make

1438
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 3: money handovers, fist. But you're telling me that a player

1439
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,839
Speaker 3: is going to have to skip out on a promotional

1440
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 3: opportunity to maybe do an autograph signing and take some

1441
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 3: pictures with fans in a sportsbook because of what, Because

1442
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 3: of what? Like to me, this is my biggest gripe

1443
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 3: with this. This is supposed to be a partnership the

1444
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 3: NFL players and the owners. The NFL players are a union.

1445
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 3: They should be fighting harder so that they can have

1446
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 3: equal opportunity in these arrangements and agreement that the NFL owners,

1447
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 3: which by the way, they said they would never get

1448
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 3: in bed with gambling, They would never get they would

1449
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,560
Speaker 3: never put a team in Vegas. Everything's changed over the

1450
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 3: past half decade and the players are getting screwed out

1451
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 3: of boatloads, I mean boatloads of money because all of

1452
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 3: a sudden, the owners are restricting their ability to do

1453
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 3: what anybody in this country can do freely. And it's

1454
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 3: it's really, I mean, it's weird that everybody's under this

1455
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 3: same spell. It's almost like mind control. It's like the

1456
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 3: integrity of the game can't stand it if players are

1457
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 3: betting on their team to win what fighters have been

1458
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 3: doing this forever?

1459
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 2: Fighters have been They do it in England all thet

1460
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: time tennis players. They can bet on themselves at Wimbledon

1461
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 2: and they Floyd made Weather, It's last I checked.

1462
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 3: Is an undefeated fighter Floyd met Nobody bet on Floyd

1463
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 3: made Weather to win as many fights as Floyd Madeweather.

1464
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 2: How much money has he made over those fifty wins.

1465
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 3: He had in gambling alone or just just gambling? Oh millions, zillions?

1466
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 2: Yes? Because okay, all right, so I'm one hundred percent

1467
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,520
Speaker 2: with you on this one because this is absurd. It's ridiculous.

1468
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 2: It's hypocrisy at its highest level. All right. Coming up

1469
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 2: on the other side, I want to get into yet

1470
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 2: another aspect of the National Football League. It's called trash talking.

1471
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 2: Something I'm big into. What is the effect Does it

1472
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 2: have any impact ever on the outcome of a game?

1473
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 2: We got a prime example coming up. This is Fox

1474
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. He was packing and we even bobbing and

1475
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: talking trash. Steve Harbin and Rich Hornberger Fox Sports Sunday.

1476
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: We are live from the Tairaq dot com studios. All right,

1477
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 2: one thing that makes sports great rivalries, and not only rivalries,

1478
01:15:54,080 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 2: I mean heated rivalries, you know, as a fan. And

1479
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 2: now I mentioned this, I was invited to do sort

1480
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: of a group discussion about sportsmanship, and I realize that

1481
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: this is not something that's going to go well if

1482
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm there, because my feeling about sportsmanship is this. If

1483
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 2: we're talking about youth sports, high school, even college to

1484
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: some degree, although we're getting a lot of obviously professionalism

1485
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 2: now on the college sports scene with the name, image

1486
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: and likeness, sportsmanship is something that should be taught. It

1487
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: really should come from your home. You know, you talk

1488
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,719
Speaker 2: about treating people well and you know, being a good

1489
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 2: loser so to speak, and everything else. But to me,

1490
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: once it gets to the professional level, that's professional sports

1491
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 2: is entertainment. And the only time that sportsmanship really is

1492
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: something worth discussing or people have interest in is when

1493
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 2: it's bad sportsmanship. That's interesting, that's fun. Let's say, why

1494
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: is this guy being such a bad sport or why

1495
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: is he not showing some that's entertainment, right, I mean,

1496
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: look at wrestling, right, isn't that what it's all about?

1497
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: So anyway, trash talk, but in the NFL rich So

1498
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 2: we've had this whole episode. Jamar Chase obviously making his

1499
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: crack as he was talking up his quarterback, Joe Burrow,

1500
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 2: being the best quarterback in the NFL, and then he

1501
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: was asked what about Patrick Mahomes? Pat who? And of

1502
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 2: course Travis Kelsey gets involved because you know he's gonna

1503
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: defend his quarterback and everything else. They showed the picture

1504
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: of Mahomes with his two Super Bowl rings and everything else.

1505
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: This was already a great rivalry, and it's a rivalry

1506
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 2: because both teams have won. You know, two years ago

1507
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 2: the Bengals go into Kansas City knock the Chiefs out.

1508
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 2: Who had thought that was gonna happen? And then Chiefs

1509
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 2: get their revenge this year in the AFC Championship Game.

1510
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 2: So as an NFL fan, I love this, But my

1511
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 2: question is what kind of impact, if any, does it

1512
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 2: actually have in the locker room of either one of

1513
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 2: these teams. I mean, you're already looking at that team

1514
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 2: as forget the rivalry. I need to be that team

1515
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 2: to get where I want to go, and that's to

1516
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl. Does this add another layer to

1517
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 2: it that has any real impact on the players?

1518
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:15,919
Speaker 3: Look, trash talk or rivalry is they're important to players

1519
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 3: the longer they play for an organization, like I'm talking

1520
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 3: about the baked in ones. But you can you can

1521
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 3: birth new rivalries really quick. And that's exactly what's happened

1522
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 3: between Cincinnati and Kansas City.

1523
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 2: Oh it is the rivalry. Now, yeah, this is the

1524
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 2: real deal.

1525
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 3: And when you have star players who are involved, it's

1526
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 3: even more consequential and important. Like so, you have arguably

1527
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 3: the best tight end in the league and maybe of

1528
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 3: all time when he finishes his career in Travis Kelsey

1529
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 3: coming out coming after one of the best receivers in

1530
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,839
Speaker 3: the league. Meanwhile, the best quarterback maybe who's ever played,

1531
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 3: is getting involved in the debate because he responds with

1532
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 3: that who with the two Super Bowl rings you mentioned.

1533
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,440
Speaker 3: It is good for the game, it's good for the rivalry,

1534
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 3: it's good for the fan bases. And as long as

1535
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 3: it doesn't get stupid, and you know what I mean

1536
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: by that, as long as nobody gets hurt or you know,

1537
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 3: this doesn't turn into something overwhelmingly negative and it stays

1538
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 3: in the lane, it's currently in. I think it makes

1539
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 3: I think it makes for better entertainment.

1540
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 2: We hear the term bulletin poured material. Yeah that actually happens. Yeah, really,

1541
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 2: you actually physically have a bulletin board with some you know,

1542
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 2: crack about the team. I've had.

1543
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,879
Speaker 3: I've had coaches flyer a locker room with an article

1544
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 3: that they had somebody on their staff highlight the line

1545
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 3: they want you to read to get you fired up,

1546
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 3: like like literally handing out flyers like this is the

1547
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 3: part of the article where in quotes the player.

1548
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 2: Said what he thinks or something like that. Yeah.

1549
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it's so everybody's locker. It's a real thing,

1550
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 3: and it really happens. And any way you could psychologically

1551
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 3: psych up a squad to have better results. At the

1552
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 3: end of the day, the ends justify the means, and

1553
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 3: so coaches still employ those tactics. And I'm telling you

1554
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 3: right now, Zach Taylor and Andy Reid, they're leaning into

1555
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 3: it because they want their team fired up to face

1556
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 3: those two teams.

1557
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 2: All right, I love everybody here at Fox Sports Radio,

1558
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 2: but someone near and dear to me lost their mind yesterday.

1559
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Speaker 2: We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday having fun as

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01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,920
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Speaker 2: all right. We got lots to cover today. We've been

1566
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 2: talking some NFL as usual. We had a little Major

1567
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 2: League Baseball talk a little bit earlier, but the big

1568
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 2: focus has been the NBA and not only what has

1569
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 2: happened with the NBA draft and a few trades already

1570
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: in the books, but what is still to be determined. Yesterday,

1571
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and I, well, we had an interesting twist

1572
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 2: on the show and I got to share this with

1573
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: you Rich. Yeah. So Bucky, who of course is as

1574
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: astute as any NFL analyst out there because he comes

1575
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 2: from so many different perspectives as a player's coach, as

1576
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 2: an executive scout, Scott, He's done it all. When it

1577
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 2: comes to the NBA, He's very clear that his allegiance

1578
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 2: is to the Miami Heat. He's a Miami Heat guy.

1579
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: So we got this Damian Lillard's situation and we'll get

1580
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 2: into the whole dynamic about Lillard in my thoughts on

1581
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: his future employment. But I was throwing it out at him,

1582
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 2: all right. I said, let's make a deal, because Portland

1583
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: is pretty much said there's no interest on their part

1584
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 2: to trade Damian Lillard, which is what they're saying is

1585
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: we haven't heard anything close to the kind of deal

1586
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 2: that we would accept if you want Damian and the

1587
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 2: Heat have been in the conversation. So I'm saying, all right, Bucky,

1588
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: here's my deal. I'm the Portland Trailblazers and you're the

1589
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 2: Miami Heat, and you're asking, what do you want? Okay,

1590
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: here's what I want. Tyler Hero is a definite Okay,

1591
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 2: Hero's an automatic Okay. And then I want to throw

1592
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 2: in a couple of other guys, So Caleb Martin. I

1593
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: want Caleb Martin as far as Struce or Robinson, I

1594
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 2: need one of those guys, and I need three number

1595
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: one picks. So give me three number one picks Tyler Hero,

1596
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: Caleb Martin, and you can make your choice between Robinson

1597
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 2: and Strus and then we could start talking Trey and

1598
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: his reaction to that was, no, I'm not making that deal.

1599
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 2: I said, who whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. You had the

1600
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: lowest scoring team in the NBA. In other words, you

1601
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 2: got to the NBA Finals because your defense was that

1602
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 2: I'm offering you one of the pre offensive players, not

1603
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,759
Speaker 2: just now Ever, a guy who's coming off a season

1604
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 2: averaging thirty two plus points a game. You don't think

1605
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 2: he can make a difference for you to get to

1606
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: the next level. And then this is where things got

1607
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: sideways on me. He goes, I'll be honest with you,

1608
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in Damian Lillard. If I'm giving up

1609
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 2: all that. The guy I want is Zion Williamson. And

1610
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, you mean the guy who, through his first

1611
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: four years in the NBA has averaged less than thirty

1612
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 2: games played per year, Zion Williamson. You're gonna trade all

1613
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: that for a guy who can't even be stay on

1614
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 2: the court. And I was going bonkers. He goes, Zion

1615
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 2: Williamson is the guy I want. Yep, You're gonna give

1616
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 2: up three number ones, Tyler Hero, Caleb Martin and another

1617
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 2: player for a guy who has played over the last

1618
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,799
Speaker 2: two years twenty nine games. You think he's gonna suddenly

1619
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 2: be healthy when he gets down of Miami. Yes, I do,

1620
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 2: because they will teach him discipline. So my head was

1621
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 2: starting to spin right off my head on this whole

1622
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 2: thing because it was toward the end of the show.

1623
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: All right, so let me ask you this, Yeah, go ahead,

1624
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 2: Let's let's take this one piece of the time. Let's

1625
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 2: start with Zion Williamson, right, because New Orleans seems to

1626
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: be indicating that they might be interested in trading him.

1627
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: By the way, he has four years remaining on his contract.

1628
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 2: Compared to some of the other contracts, it's not that steep.

1629
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 2: He's in the thirty to forty million dollars a year

1630
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 2: price range as opposed to fifty million a year. But

1631
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 2: would you take a risk right now that you are

1632
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 2: the team that would figure out a way to keep

1633
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: Zion Williamson healthy and on the court.

1634
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 3: No, I'm not high on Zion Williamson. I think that

1635
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,839
Speaker 3: the most important ability is your availability, and he hasn't

1636
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 3: shown anybody that he can be available for the amount

1637
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 3: of time on the court that it takes to be

1638
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 3: a champion. That's what we're in the business of. If

1639
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 3: you're trading away your future for an NBA superstar is championships,

1640
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 3: That's why the Phoenix Suns just did what they did.

1641
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 3: That's the reason why the Boston Celtics just did what

1642
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 3: they did. That's the reason why the Memphis Grizzlies just

1643
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 3: did what they did. Because each of these teams feel

1644
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 3: like they got better and they're going to try to

1645
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 3: go on a championship run now. You know, in terms

1646
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 3: of like the Wizards, for example, they were the third

1647
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 3: team in that Memphis Boston Wizard's trade, blockbuster trade that

1648
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 3: landed Porzingis in Boston. They're building for the future, so

1649
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 3: they're not in it now. But a trade of this nature,

1650
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 3: when you're talking about Zion or Dame Lillard to go

1651
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 3: to a new team, it's going to be because they're

1652
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 3: winning right now, right now.

1653
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the Miami Heat.

1654
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 3: What has Zion proven to you during his time in

1655
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 3: New Orleans that makes you think, well, oh, that's the

1656
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 3: missing part to our championship.

1657
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: What is what intrigues you is look at his numbers.

1658
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 2: See this is the way I put it. I go

1659
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 2: over the course of his career, he's only played in

1660
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 2: one hundred and fourteen games in four years. But in

1661
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 2: those one hundred and four team games, he's averaging about

1662
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 2: twenty seven points a game, seven or eight rebounds, four assists.

1663
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 2: Here's the thing I brought up the bug. I said,

1664
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 2: I go, you know what is averaging in the games

1665
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: that he's missed zero point zero, zero points zero and

1666
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: zero points thereo, listen. More more likely to me if

1667
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 2: I'm pat Riley, if I'm Eric Spolstra in Miami and

1668
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 2: I'm looking for the shot in the arm that takes

1669
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 2: us over the top, is the Dame Lillard trade. And

1670
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be as rich as you

1671
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: think it would be. I do think that Tyler hero

1672
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 2: is involved in that trade. I do think that Tyler

1673
01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 2: Heroes must. It's got to be multiple number ones, which

1674
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to bother teams anymore.

1675
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 3: Say two number ones, right, Duncan Robinson might be involved

1676
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 3: on Cayler Martin. I don't think that they would be

1677
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 3: willing to ignor abstrus. I don't think they would be.

1678
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 3: But I could see those two players plus two first

1679
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,640
Speaker 3: rounders potentially being enough. Maybe you have to throw in

1680
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 3: something else. Yeah, but here's my point. So, so say

1681
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 3: you do offer enough to the Portland Trail Trailblazers to

1682
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 3: get Damian Lillard. Now you've got a serious squad. Oh

1683
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 3: Bayby have Bam out of Bayou. You have Jimmy Butler,

1684
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 3: who's an assassin and who by the way, it barely

1685
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 3: played in the regular season, and he just was able

1686
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 3: to take this Heat team who limped into the postseason

1687
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 3: and get them to relevancy. But what couldn't he do

1688
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 3: at the end of those games, Well, he could knocked

1689
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 3: down those shots.

1690
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 2: He was tired and could configure.

1691
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 3: If you suddenly have Damian Lillard taking those shots, oh

1692
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 3: my gosh, it's Dame time in South Beach.

1693
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 2: It just feels right.

1694
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 3: And also, I don't know why, there's certain personalities that

1695
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 3: just feel like they would work. Yeah, Butler and Damian Lillard.

1696
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, those two it feels like they're pros

1697
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 3: pros there. Yeah, they're pros pros. They're cut from the

1698
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 3: same cloth. Yeah, Like it feels like that work. And

1699
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 3: by the way, also, and I forgot about this, but

1700
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard he's like best buddies with Bam, Like they

1701
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,879
Speaker 3: really love each other, like they're bro So you bring

1702
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 3: that crew down to South Beach this NBA offseason. Out

1703
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 3: of the East, if you're telling me to guess who's

1704
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 3: going to show up in the finals. I mean, there

1705
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 3: is no doubt in my mind it is the Miami Heat. Well,

1706
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,799
Speaker 3: with that culture, with that colt, with those three players,

1707
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 3: depending on what they lose in the trade, which, like

1708
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 3: I said, I think it would be less than you

1709
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 3: think for Dame.

1710
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's my pick out of the East.

1711
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 10: H R.

1712
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 2: All that being said, and I'm one hundred percent in

1713
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 2: a chord with you because I don't think I don't

1714
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 2: think Boston. I don't think any deals that have been

1715
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 2: made so far to me have put a team in

1716
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,759
Speaker 2: a position to threaten Denver. Yeah, I don't think Celtics

1717
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 2: are a threat to Denver With Persingus, I mean you

1718
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,720
Speaker 2: kidding me. I mean, come on, Jokic would stuff per

1719
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 2: Singus into the loop. So, but that deal, because we've

1720
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: seen the Heat, we know they can be competitive. What

1721
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 2: were they missing? They're missing a guy like Damian Lillard. Yeah,

1722
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: that being said, I don't think Lillard's going anywhere. See

1723
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 2: Damian Lillard to me, reminds me a lot about Mike Trout.

1724
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 2: You know, Mike Trout has had opportunities to go elsewhere

1725
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 2: multiple opportunities. He's very comfortable where he is, and I think,

1726
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 2: to a large degree, Damian Lillard is the same. We

1727
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 2: all assume, of course, because and here's the other thing.

1728
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 2: We're hyper critical of these NBA players that force their

1729
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 2: teams to trade him because they're seemingly, at least publicly

1730
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 2: chasing a ring. Yeah, and we're critical of them. You know,

1731
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 2: they're carpetbaggers. You know, they don't really belong. This is

1732
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 2: the big thing against Kevin Durant when he left OKC

1733
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: to join the enemy Golden State to pick up a

1734
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 2: couple of rings.

1735
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 3: Something with Lebron when he left for usself.

1736
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely, so, I don't think there's anything wrong if Damian

1737
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 2: Lillard says, look, of course I want to win a championship,

1738
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 2: but I want to win a championship as a Portland

1739
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 2: trail Blazer. Now you get Scoot Henderson. I don't know

1740
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: how good this kid's going to be. He certainly was

1741
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 2: a consensus top three guy in this draft, there was

1742
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 2: no question about that. A lot of people think, though,

1743
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 2: because they drafted Scoot Henderson, now it's their excuse us

1744
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 2: to get rid of Damian Lillard. I'm not so sure.

1745
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 2: I think I if I were betting on this, and

1746
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 2: anytime I place a bet, I lose, but I'm gonna

1747
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 2: throw it out there anyway. I think he stays with

1748
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 2: the Blazers.

1749
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 3: Well, listen, the general theme the reason why Damian Lillard

1750
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 3: and this whole conversation over his trade has come up

1751
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 3: is because it doesn't feel like if you look at

1752
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 3: Scoot Henderson's game and you see what Dame's done over

1753
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 3: his time in the league, that these two make any

1754
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 3: sense co existing on the same roster together. They do

1755
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 3: the same things, They're the same not the same guy.

1756
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 3: And again, Scoot Henderson is an unproven asset at the

1757
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 3: NBA level, so it's saying a lot to say they're

1758
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 3: the same guy. But that's that's the common refrain you

1759
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 3: hear when Damian Lillard and and the Portland Trail Blazers

1760
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 3: and his future with the team comes up, And that's

1761
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 3: the reason why all of a sudden you're hearing trade talks. Also, Dame, look,

1762
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 3: I agree with you. He's got that personality where it

1763
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 3: feels like he may be a lifer, but at the

1764
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 3: same token, he's not an idiot like this team has

1765
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 3: indicated in some ways that they're moving off of Dame

1766
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 3: that they're done with him, So he's not saying it publicly.

1767
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 3: I don't think he's all that offended. I think he

1768
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 3: kind of gets it. But he told them in no

1769
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 3: uncertain terms, like, if you're gonna build around me, obviously

1770
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 3: I'm here for forever. For as long as I'm under

1771
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 3: you will not hear a peep out of me. But

1772
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,679
Speaker 3: the moment you stop building around me, I've only got

1773
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 3: this window to win a championship, and it only goes

1774
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 3: for so long. So if my loyalty is tested, I'll

1775
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:31,800
Speaker 3: check you right back. And it feels like that's what's

1776
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 3: happening right now in Portland. Will he stay?

1777
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 2: Maybe?

1778
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 3: But if the Portland Trailblazers can now build, rebuild around

1779
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 3: Scoot Henderson and get some draft capital and a couple

1780
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,799
Speaker 3: of players who can make them relevant while they're still building,

1781
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 3: maybe they'll still make the playoffs out.

1782
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 2: Of the West, which I could see.

1783
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 3: Well, okay, then that feels like a fair trade and

1784
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 3: everybody goes home happy the more. Actually, it's funny you

1785
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 3: chose to Angels and you're comparing Damian Lillard to Mike

1786
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 3: because the more apt comparison in my mind, is like

1787
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 3: a show Heyo tani who. When he first came to

1788
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:10,120
Speaker 3: the United States, he was this phenom who was built

1789
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 3: up and now he's finally making good on that. And

1790
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 3: it felt like at first he didn't want to go

1791
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,679
Speaker 3: to a big market. Hedn't want to go to play

1792
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 3: for the New York Yankees. He didn't want to go

1793
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 3: play for the LA Dodgers because he was unsure of

1794
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 3: coming over here and splashing into the league and being

1795
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 3: the biggest, the biggest thing anybody's ever seen, and go

1796
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,879
Speaker 3: play for one of the biggest franchises in all of sports.

1797
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 3: He wasn't interested in it. But now five years later, whatever,

1798
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 3: are you sure.

1799
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 2: He wants to leave?

1800
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 3: I mean, there, it feels to me like this is

1801
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 3: the time we talked to Ja.

1802
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 2: Now we know it's the time he talked to.

1803
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,640
Speaker 3: JP Morosei about it and he said he would do it.

1804
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 2: Now. The Angels have a better record right now than

1805
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 2: the Dodgers.

1806
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 3: If they don't win, though, look again, if you're gonna

1807
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 3: build around me, same thing as Dame. If you're gonna

1808
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 3: build around me, I'll stay if we can't win here.

1809
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 3: If you're refusing or reluctant to build around me. I'm

1810
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 3: out of here. So that's the reason why I feel

1811
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 3: like it's more of a show Hey Otani thing with

1812
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 3: Damian Lillard in Portland and frankly show Hey Otani depending

1813
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 3: on how it goes in the second half, depending on

1814
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 3: what they do with the trade deadline, maybe traded to

1815
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 3: one of those big market teams, and that they're still

1816
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 3: in the playoffs chase, Well, that's what I'm saying, depending

1817
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 3: on how the Angels are firmly in the playoff, depending

1818
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 3: on what happens. And the same can be said for Dame.

1819
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know. I just get I don't know

1820
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 2: about like I don't know Damian Lillard, and it would

1821
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 2: seem like if they can make a deal with the Heat,

1822
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 2: it would make a lot of sense to him, certainly

1823
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 2: put him in a better position to win an NBA whatever.

1824
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 3: Instagram he was playing Miami by Will Smith.

1825
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 2: You heard what his agent said, Oh don't buy anything.

1826
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 2: That coincidence.

1827
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 3: And then Jimmy Butler, by the way, posted on his

1828
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 3: ig one of Damian Lillard's rap songs.

1829
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,560
Speaker 2: Just a coincid, just a coincidence.

1830
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 3: These are just two guys who are just posting songs

1831
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 3: to their social media.

1832
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 2: All right, is there a team out there in the

1833
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 2: NBA that actually can get the right pieces to fit

1834
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 2: to seriously challenge the team that's at the top of

1835
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 2: the mountain right now, that being the dever Nuggets. We

1836
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 2: got another team in mind. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

1837
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 2: Steve Harman and Rich Arnberger, Fox Sports Sunday. Well, you know,

1838
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 2: and we are live from the tirerac dot Com studios.

1839
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,599
Speaker 3: It is just coincidence. We were just talking about Damian

1840
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 3: Lillard potentially being traded to the Miami Heat and we're

1841
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 3: playing the song Miami. This is just a coincidence.

1842
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 2: Just Sam, is there any the meanings? Are you playing

1843
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,719
Speaker 2: the song or did just happen? It was in the rotation?

1844
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 5: No, actually, there's no coincidence because this is actually called

1845
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 5: and the beat goes on by the whispers. But it

1846
01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 5: was sample by well, yes, of course, I'm joking. Yeah,

1847
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 5: Will Smith Miami. Yeah, okay, I might have picked it

1848
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 5: because you guys were talking about my own.

1849
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 3: Oh b I thought it was a Quinn's.

1850
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 2: It was in the rotation.

1851
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 3: It was just I was on the roads, like like

1852
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 3: it's often times. I'm sure Damian Lillard just puts on

1853
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 3: that old Will Smith track just to jam out, just

1854
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,320
Speaker 3: to jam out, especially when he goes live on Instagram

1855
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 3: like many times that he's done it before. No big deal,

1856
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 3: the uh no biggie.

1857
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 2: The Denver Nuggets dominated the postseason, There's no question about that.

1858
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,839
Speaker 2: And if you were not aware of Nikola jokicch prior

1859
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 2: to these playoffs, everyone knows just how good he is

1860
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,879
Speaker 2: right now. You know. They always say it's tough to repeat.

1861
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 2: Not in the NBA, it's not. In fact, we have

1862
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 2: nothing but repeats. Think about it. When the Lakers had

1863
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 2: their repeat in eighty seven eighty eight, they were the

1864
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: first team to do it in nineteen years after that

1865
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 2: in in a row. The Pistons won two in a row,

1866
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 2: the Bulls won three in a row, the Rockets won

1867
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:53,639
Speaker 2: two in a row, the Bulls won three in a row,

1868
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 2: and the Lakers won three in a row. I mean,

1869
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 2: the only team that could not win back to back,

1870
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 2: weirdly was the standard Tonia Spurs. They won five championships,

1871
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 2: but never back to back. We had.

1872
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,519
Speaker 3: The Warriors went back to back, the Lakers went back

1873
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 3: to back. So winning back to back is.

1874
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 2: Very common in the NBA, and right now, to me,

1875
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets, having finally navigated all the way to

1876
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 2: the finish line, I think they're even in a better

1877
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 2: position to do it again this year, unless, of course,

1878
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 2: there's a team that could put our roster together that

1879
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 2: could be better or match it. Now, I would like

1880
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 2: to point out something I hate to be critical of

1881
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 2: people in our industry because we know the challenge and

1882
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 2: we know that people listening. You have fans, you have

1883
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 2: people that are hyper critical. I get that, But it

1884
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 2: gets down to chemistry. I don't know how much of

1885
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 2: the NBA draft coverage you watched. I watched a lot

1886
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 2: of it, and it was interesting because they had four

1887
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:56,679
Speaker 2: people that individually are all good. In other words, four

1888
01:36:56,720 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 2: people they were the panel. On the panel, they had

1889
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 2: never worked together as a group. It was dreadful. I

1890
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 2: mean they it was dreadful, not from an individual standpoint,

1891
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 2: the group itself. They didn't play off of each other well,

1892
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 2: they didn't have good chemistry. And so you talked about

1893
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 2: this earlier, that trying to put a roster together that

1894
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 2: actually works, and this Denver team, as we've seen, this

1895
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 2: was a process over several years together with the same

1896
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 2: players with the same coach, and finally that patience paid

1897
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,600
Speaker 2: off and now they're NBA champions. So I want to

1898
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 2: get to the Lakers right now, because the Lakers are

1899
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,640
Speaker 2: always in the conversation and they should be. They just

1900
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 2: got to the Final four. But after losing in four

1901
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 2: straight to the Denver Nuggets, Lebron James was asked right

1902
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 2: after that last game about next year's team, and he

1903
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 2: immediately responded with, I don't even know what our roster

1904
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 2: is going to be, which, by the way, was his

1905
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 2: way of saying, hey, yes, he made a lot of

1906
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:04,240
Speaker 2: improvements this year, but this roster is not good enough

1907
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:07,639
Speaker 2: to be that team. We're going to have to get better.

1908
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 2: So we talked about Chris Paul was a possibility. Now

1909
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 2: I had it. By the way, a little side note

1910
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:18,799
Speaker 2: here this Chris Paul trade. Does this illustrate how desperate

1911
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,480
Speaker 2: Golden State was to get rid of that Jordan Poole contract.

1912
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 2: I mean, they could not unload it because the big

1913
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 2: money was going to kick in starting next season with

1914
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 2: pool that they would bring in a thirty eight year

1915
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 2: old point guard whose game you talk about not fitting

1916
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 2: what they do. He's a ball dominant point guard. On

1917
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:40,560
Speaker 2: a team that doesn't use a point guard that dominates

1918
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:41,440
Speaker 2: slow basketball.

1919
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 3: Bob Myers has stepped down as general manager of the

1920
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors, and maybe it was perfect timing. Maybe

1921
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 3: he felt like there was this feeling of I don't

1922
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 3: want to stay. I don't want to stay too long

1923
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 3: at the party here, like I don't want to wait

1924
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 3: for the lights to come on at the bar and

1925
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 3: for every But he'd be like, yeah, it's closing time.

1926
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 2: You got to get that all out of here. But

1927
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 2: we know that.

1928
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 3: Golden State's opportunity chances of repeating success in the future

1929
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,679
Speaker 3: here are flickering at best, with an aging Steph Curry

1930
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:15,599
Speaker 3: and Draymond Green isn't getting any younger, and Klay Thompson

1931
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 3: has been injured and he's getting older, and so along

1932
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 3: in the tooth roster they get rid of Jordan Poole

1933
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 3: and they bring in Chris Paul. It just sort of

1934
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 3: feels to me like two things at play. One it's

1935
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 3: desperation and they're gonna see if there's any tread left

1936
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 3: on Chris Paul's tires to try to make a run.

1937
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 3: And even though what you said is true, he is

1938
01:39:37,479 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 3: ball dominant He's also a really good chemistry guy. He

1939
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 3: seems to get along wherever he gets placed, and he

1940
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 3: seems to be pretty influential wherever he's been. We'll see

1941
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 3: what happens in Golden State. That's an interesting spot to land,

1942
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 3: mainly because of Draymond Green, which brings me to my

1943
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 3: second point. Draymond Green cannot stand the idea of this triumvirent,

1944
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 3: the the addition of Durant to Klay, Thompson and Curry

1945
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 3: and Green. He fought with Durant until Durant left. Same

1946
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 3: thing with Jordan Poole. He literally punched this guy in

1947
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 3: the face last offseason. So to me, it really does

1948
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 3: feel like an odd situation to be removing Jordan Poole

1949
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 3: because he's the next guy who hasn't been able to

1950
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 3: get along with Draymond to bring in an equally hard

1951
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 3: headed kind of you know, fenced in, I am who

1952
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 3: I am, don't test me type of guy like Chris Paul.

1953
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 2: See, I think Chris Paul is not even gonna play

1954
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 2: with the first I think they're gonna bring him in

1955
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 2: as a backup. Is the head of the second unit? Yeah, yea, yeah,

1956
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 2: I could say in other words, where their second unit

1957
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,719
Speaker 2: is gonna have a very different look than their three

1958
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 2: point shooting barrage that they have with the I think

1959
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 2: so it won't be Chris Paul to the Lakers, and

1960
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 2: I was not a fan of that idea anyway. That's

1961
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:57,800
Speaker 2: that's not what the Lakers need. The Lakers need a big.

1962
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 2: Although I will say this, I'm this yesterday Derek Rose

1963
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 2: getting released by the next Now, I know there's not

1964
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 2: a lot of tread left on the tire, but I

1965
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 2: look at Derek Rose much as I look at the

1966
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 2: Bill Walton situation years ago, where it just seemed like, oh,

1967
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:16,559
Speaker 2: really unfortunate and MVP and the injuries just piled up.

1968
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 2: But you put him on the right team. I'm not

1969
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 2: saying he's going to be your number three option, nothing

1970
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 2: close to that. But you can get him at nothing

1971
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 2: now four million dollars and he still has got you know, upstairs.

1972
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 2: I think he could bring you a little game if

1973
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 2: the price is right. Yeah. Would he be a huge

1974
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 2: difference maker, No, But I mean as much as Bill

1975
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 2: Walton contributed for a championship, he could be that kind

1976
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 2: of player. Look, they need a big, they need a

1977
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,840
Speaker 2: serious big. The Lakers you can't put a D in

1978
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 2: the middle defensively, and we saw that against Jokic. He

1979
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 2: can get his own points, but he had no chance.

1980
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 2: Brook Lopez is a guy that I think would be

1981
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 2: the perfect fit for the Lakers because he was just

1982
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 2: runner up for the Defensive Player of the Year.

1983
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,839
Speaker 3: Those weren't terrible. Look, I know the Lakers got swept.

1984
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:06,200
Speaker 3: I know the Lakers got swept, and I know how

1985
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,880
Speaker 3: bad that is to lose four straight games in the

1986
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,960
Speaker 3: Western Conference Finals and bow out the way they did.

1987
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 3: But I will argue that the Lakers played arguably the

1988
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 3: most competitive basketball against the Nuggets of all the teams

1989
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 3: they faced in the in the postseason. I mean, those

1990
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:29,719
Speaker 3: were close losses. I mean it wasn't terrible. It wasn't

1991
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 3: a terrible showing. I know there are no moral victories.

1992
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 3: I know that this is a game of wins and

1993
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 3: losses and in every league gets the same. And the

1994
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 3: Denver Nuggets they're champions for good reason. They're better than

1995
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 3: the Lakers. But I will say this, you're talking about

1996
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 3: wholesale changes needed. No, no, no, no, there's no desperation here.

1997
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:50,000
Speaker 3: I mean, doesn't go anywhere, Hatchamura. Those are your two

1998
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 3: main guys. Yeah, that you bring back. They're pretty close.

1999
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 2: But they needed You can't put a D in the

2000
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 2: middle defensively, Yeah, a quality big I agree, would help

2001
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 2: that off the ball. Great defender around the rim again, you.

2002
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,920
Speaker 3: Know where the bar is, Yeah, the bar's looking right

2003
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 3: at it and they and look again, like you said,

2004
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 3: you had a good long look at him in the

2005
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 3: Western Conference finals. They also need health out of their

2006
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:17,200
Speaker 3: aging stars A D and Lebron and you just stay healthy.

2007
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 3: And I need to play a little bit more basketball

2008
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:22,959
Speaker 3: together before entering the postseason because I think their chemistry

2009
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 3: is off the charts, but it could be even better

2010
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 3: if they have more floor time together.

2011
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,240
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2012
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2015
01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 2: Let's find out what is trending right now. I can

2016
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 2: I can now that I can see you. Yes, I

2017
01:43:46,720 --> 01:43:50,560
Speaker 2: can see life building in you over the course of

2018
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,120
Speaker 2: the show and ago you're coming out of it.

2019
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 8: I'm coming out of yeah, my zombie phase.

2020
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when I first saw you. It was a

2021
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:58,720
Speaker 2: little zombie, a little bit.

2022
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 7: No, yeah, I felt it. I thought.

2023
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 8: I was like, man, that's a good thing I got

2024
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 8: makeup on, because I look like I haven't slept in day.

2025
01:44:05,400 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 3: You know, we were all talking about it. We're like,

2026
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 3: nonch oh my god, somebody should send her home.

2027
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 7: First of all, I never look off, even when I

2028
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:15,600
Speaker 7: do look off. Okay, let's get that.

2029
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 2: She says that, looking at us like she was like,

2030
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 2: how damn.

2031
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 7: Wait for this break to happen.

2032
01:44:26,800 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 3: You are I'm very worried actually about my safety.

2033
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:31,600
Speaker 2: Now you should be.

2034
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 7: I can jump up. I can jump up and swing.

2035
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like I can take a

2036
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 7: little hop up.

2037
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 3: She's threading me on air.

2038
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 7: Just kidding, just kidding, guys.

2039
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:50,280
Speaker 8: Game two of the College World Series Finals is officially underway.

2040
01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 7: It's the best of three series.

2041
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 8: L s U won game one and they have scored first,

2042
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 8: so they're up one zero against Florida. If they win,

2043
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,679
Speaker 8: they take it all. If they will have a game three.

2044
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 8: But I'm happy to say that the Rockies have started

2045
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 8: off on a different foot today compared to last night

2046
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 8: when they got rocked by the Angels. I think the

2047
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 8: final score was seventy two to one. Well, guess what

2048
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 8: the Rockies have actually scored first against the Angels today,

2049
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 8: Colorado up one zero, they're about to start the third inning.

2050
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 8: The White Sox have taken the lead over the Red

2051
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 8: Sox thanks to a two run shot by Luis Robert Junior.

2052
01:45:26,600 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 7: So it's two to.

2053
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 8: One bottom of the fifth inning in Chicago and it's

2054
01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,439
Speaker 8: the Guardians who actually have just tied the game against

2055
01:45:32,439 --> 01:45:34,559
Speaker 8: the Brewers. They are tied at four a piece. Top

2056
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 8: of the seventh inning. The Reds. You guys were talking

2057
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:40,240
Speaker 8: about Elie de la Cruz earlier today. That guy, how

2058
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 8: does he run so fast? He runs so fast and

2059
01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 8: he's such a big dude. It's like how do you move?

2060
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 2: So it's like bolt, he's six to five, this guy

2061
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:52,799
Speaker 2: twenty one years old?

2062
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:54,719
Speaker 7: Nuts, yeah, nuts?

2063
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,719
Speaker 2: I mean he has whoever's scary fils?

2064
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 7: E were in that Reds organization, didn't they? He needed

2065
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 7: to be on the roster at the start of the season.

2066
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 7: Needs to be uh maybe not fired, but maybe amazing.

2067
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,360
Speaker 2: The guy gets caught up, brought up and they win twelve.

2068
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 7: Great, unbelievable.

2069
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,480
Speaker 3: Maybe you could jump up and hit that person instead

2070
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 3: of me.

2071
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 7: Well, maybe they're not even as tall as you. Maybe

2072
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 7: they don't have to jump up.

2073
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, guys, the Reds of Tide the game against

2074
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 8: the Braves three to three, top of the six inning.

2075
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 8: The Rangers are still beating the Yankees three to two

2076
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 8: in the Bronx And you guys heard not great news

2077
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 8: about Aaron Judge that came out. I think it was

2078
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 8: yesterday that his toe is not I mean we expected it.

2079
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 7: We expected it right after all this time.

2080
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 8: His toe is not well, So we don't even know

2081
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 8: if there's a timetable for his return this season, which sucks.

2082
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 8: The Mets holding on to their lead over the Phillies.

2083
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:46,599
Speaker 8: It is four to three, top of the six inning

2084
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 8: in Philadelphia. Carlos alcraz won the Queen's Club Championship final,

2085
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 8: so it's his first ATP title on grass. He reclaimed

2086
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 8: the top ranking, meaning he's gonna enter Wimbledon next month

2087
01:46:58,280 --> 01:46:59,840
Speaker 8: as the number one seed.

2088
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 7: He's like twenty wow.

2089
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, but he's not going to be Djokovic at Wimbledon.

2090
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 7: I don't think so.

2091
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 9: No.

2092
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 2: First of all, he's won the last four Wimbledon Djokovic,

2093
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 2: so he's trying to match the five year run. Of

2094
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 2: course they had the one year canceled in twenty twenty

2095
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:22,280
Speaker 2: of Federer and Bork won five in a row, and

2096
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:23,560
Speaker 2: I think he's going to do it anything he's he

2097
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 2: did again.

2098
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 8: Carlos Akraz though, is another one where it's like he

2099
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 8: makes it look so easy.

2100
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:29,360
Speaker 2: But you saw what happened to him in the French

2101
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 2: Open or he cramped everywhere and he literally said it

2102
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:35,280
Speaker 2: was nerves.

2103
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 7: Uh huh.

2104
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 2: Like he was playing very intense tennis against Jokovic the

2105
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:43,040
Speaker 2: first couple of sets, and then his entire body just

2106
01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:47,919
Speaker 2: sees just seized on him, like fingers, legs, and even Jokovic,

2107
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 2: you know who loves this kid, is saying he's going

2108
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 2: to be the star of the future. But he admitted,

2109
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 2: like my hands started cramping, like his whole body cramped.

2110
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,360
Speaker 3: I remember in college a couple of times I saw

2111
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 3: full by cramps. I've never seen that before in my life,

2112
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,920
Speaker 3: and both times it happened, our trainers just threw the

2113
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 3: guy in the cold top. I'm like, this seems like

2114
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 3: a gigantic mistake. Like they're like, yeah, we'll get him

2115
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 3: in the cult. I'm like, why are we doing this

2116
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 3: what happens because one of them was like, this three

2117
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 3: hundred and ten pound offensive lineman. I'm like, what happens if,

2118
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 3: like we can't get him out of there? Yeah, because

2119
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 3: he's pretty big. They're like, no, no, no, this will work, And.

2120
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 2: Somehow it did.

2121
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think we were surrounded by like

2122
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 3: the best of the best.

2123
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 2: Well I mean, but the point being is that he

2124
01:48:35,479 --> 01:48:37,479
Speaker 2: felt it was the nerves. Yeah yeah, yeah, good, well,

2125
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 2: yeah it could be it could have got the best

2126
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 2: of him because you know, we're playing such intense tennis.

2127
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 2: The first sets, a couple sets were amazing sets. Yes,

2128
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 2: you know, two guys going to toe to toe, but

2129
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 2: he just couldn't relax.

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Speaker 3: That's a game where I do think tennis it's underrated.

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01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 3: How mental of a game it is. It reminds me

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Speaker 3: a lot of baseball, like the games played more between

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Speaker 3: the ears than the actually obviously got to be able

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Speaker 3: to hit the curve, but.

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Speaker 2: Well, you have to have good hand eye coordination in

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Speaker 2: both sports. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And also it's a one on one battle. It's you

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Speaker 3: verse serve, it's you verse pitcher who's gonna win this matchup?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's stuff she would never see that because she

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Speaker 2: handles pressure well.

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Speaker 3: As soon as we're going to break in like three

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Speaker 3: or four minutes, I'm gonna I'm just gonna run. She

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Speaker 3: can't hit a moving.

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Speaker 7: Target company.

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Speaker 3: Feet Della Cruz impression.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I wanted to ask you about Aaron Rodgers comments

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01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 2: about hallucinogenics or what was what was he talking about?

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Speaker 2: And he wants he wants psychedelics to be introduced into Now.

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Speaker 2: My big question is not Aaron Rodgers because he says

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Speaker 2: goofy things all the time. My question would be with

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Speaker 2: his coach, Robert Salah. Right, So if you're Robert sala

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Speaker 2: who's already you know he's a champion. You know Aaron

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01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 2: Rodgers burnting much, there's nothing he can do to upset me.

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Speaker 2: But if you're solid, do you start to pull them

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Speaker 2: aside and say, look, I honestly you can do whatever

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01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 2: you want, but I don't feel comfortable with you maybe

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Speaker 2: influencing your teammates because what works to you may not

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Speaker 2: actually work for somebody else. I mean, if you're Sola,

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Speaker 2: would you sort of pulling them and say, look, you

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Speaker 2: knew anything you want to do, but by somehow promoting

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Speaker 2: something that may work for you, you do understand it

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01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:30,160
Speaker 2: may not work for somebody else.

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Speaker 3: Here's my general belief when it comes to stuff like

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Speaker 3: this is we don't know what anybody's up to, right like,

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Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people are obviously they

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Speaker 3: for good reason. They lie about what drugs they partake in. Yes,

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Speaker 3: because maybe it'll affect their familial relationships. Maybe they got

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Speaker 3: in laws who would look down upon it, and it

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Speaker 3: would just create more problems than it's worth discussing. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about people with problems. I'm talking about

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01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 3: people who recreational use for years marijuana, well, where that

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01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:06,160
Speaker 3: was a very much so taboo thing and it's becoming

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Speaker 3: less so now. But cocaine or hallucinogens or whatever, like,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of people out there who keep that

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Speaker 3: away from their employers or to their extended family because

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Speaker 3: they're worried about the taboo nature of those things. Look,

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Speaker 3: I'll compare it this way. If if I had the

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Speaker 3: same tax accountant for ten years and then I found

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Speaker 3: out year eleven that he's been using cocaine the entire time,

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Speaker 3: would I still work with him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Probably, if he's a good accountant. I don't really care,

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01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 3: right exactly. Now, I'm not talking about with the problem.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about somebody who's doing something recreationally, which that's

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Speaker 3: what Aaron Rodgers is describing. This is a guy who

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Speaker 3: occasionally will take a psychedelic tee and go on the

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Speaker 3: trip of his life. And if that's the way he

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Speaker 3: wants to handle his off seasons, and the NFL is

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Speaker 3: not going to bust him up for a suspension, and

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Speaker 3: it's not going to affect my bottom line. And I'm

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Speaker 3: Robert Sala, head coach of the New York Jets who

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Speaker 3: just got a Hall of Famer Again.

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Speaker 2: I'm cool with it. That's I'm cool with him. But

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Speaker 2: by going public with it, maybe he's suggesting, Hey, this

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01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:12,760
Speaker 2: has really been effective for me over the years, and

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Speaker 2: in some way is suggesting perhaps you, as a Jets teammate,

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Speaker 2: should try the same thing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, influence is important, and you're not just hiring a player,

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Speaker 3: you're also hiring a leader. And Aaron Rodgers, there's no

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01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:28,679
Speaker 3: question is and he's gonna have influence over that locker room.

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Speaker 3: So if I'm Robert Sola, to answer your question directly,

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Speaker 3: I would have some concerns that maybe that wouldn't be

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01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 3: good for all. However, you're dealing with adults. You're dealing

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Speaker 3: with people of great decisions their entire life.

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Speaker 2: You believe that every person in that locker room was

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Speaker 2: an adult when you played in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: There are adults. I'm not saying they are, I mean

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Speaker 3: physically adult. I'm not saying they aren't.

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Speaker 2: Chronologically maybe adults. I'm not saying that mentally were they adopt.

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Speaker 3: Impressionable or immature at times. But you gotta trust that

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Speaker 3: the greater goods going to be served having Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: on your team and not pissing him off. Also, let's

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Speaker 3: serve the greater good there. Like the first thing I

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Speaker 3: say to Aaron Rodgers, or among the first things I

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Speaker 3: say to Aaron Rodgers if I'm Robert sala Is not Hey, buddy,

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01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,760
Speaker 3: I want you to be careful who you convinced.

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Speaker 2: That psychedelics are a good thing too.

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Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna hope that everybody has their own thoughts

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Speaker 3: on this, that they're gonna be able to handle it,

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Speaker 3: or they're going to be able to say yeah, not

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Speaker 3: for me, a rod I'm all set, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go on and try to win the AFC Championship. Game

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Speaker 3: and play for a Super Bowl while while I got

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Speaker 3: him on my roster, that's how I would handle it.

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Speaker 3: But to each his own. Maybe this is a conversation

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Speaker 3: that comes up in New York between Sala and Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: All right, a team close to the Jets. I want

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Speaker 2: to get into most overrated team going into the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three season, and I got a team in mine

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Speaker 2: and a fine out of rich agrees. This is Fox

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01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:05,679
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and or At Charnberger. Once again,

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Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the

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Speaker 2: tirerack dot Com studios. All right, we were talking about

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Speaker 2: the Jets, and they're obviously one of the more intriguing

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Speaker 2: teams as we head into the twenty twenty three season

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01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 2: with the addition of Aaron Rodgers. So we'll see how

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01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 2: that all plays out. So if you look at the

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01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 2: power rankings as we go into the new season, there's

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Speaker 2: a clear number one. That's the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have said that a year ago. They proved

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01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 2: me wrong. I thought that the loss of Tyreek Hill

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01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 2: was going to have a major impact on that team.

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Speaker 2: I was wrong. It did not have a major impact

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Speaker 2: because they have the best quarterback in the league and

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Speaker 2: his name is Patrick Mahomes. And right behind them are

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals, who have proven it over the last

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Speaker 2: couple of years with deep playoff runs that they are

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Speaker 2: the team that the Chiefs need to get passed to

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Speaker 2: get to their desired destination. The NFC side, I think

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Speaker 2: the Eagles, at least right now, are a clear favorite.

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01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 2: I think the forty nine Ers, because of the quarterback situation,

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01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 2: are a step behind. If you eliminate quarterback, I dare

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Speaker 2: say that I think the forty nine Ers have even

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Speaker 2: more impact players than the Eagles have, but there's a

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Speaker 2: discrepancy obviously quarterback. And then I look at another team

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01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 2: that most people would be talking about in the same conversation,

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01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:33,440
Speaker 2: and I'm not quite sure they're there now, and that

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01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 2: is the Buffalo Bills. The Buffalo Bills miss one person

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01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:45,919
Speaker 2: in particular, Brian Dable, who when they acquired Diggs Stefan

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01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 2: Diggs was able to manufacture a passing game that no

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Speaker 2: one ever dreamt that Josh Allen was going to be

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01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:00,800
Speaker 2: able to pull off. That he wasn't capable of completing

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Speaker 2: sixty nine percent of his passes when in his college years,

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Speaker 2: in his first two years of the NFL, he never

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Speaker 2: even gotten to sixty percent. But if you look at

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01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, touchdowns are still there, interceptions

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01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 2: are up slightly, but that completion percentage is down. Are

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Speaker 2: you with me on the fact that the Bills have

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01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 2: plateaued and they're no longer because a year ago they

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Speaker 2: were the favorites to win the Super Bowl? I think

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01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:36,600
Speaker 2: they're a distant third behind Cincinnati in Kansas City in

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Speaker 2: the AFC, and I dare say I don't think they're

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Speaker 2: as good as the Eagles and the forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: if they can figure out their quarterback situation. Where are

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Speaker 2: you with the Bills right now?

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Speaker 3: Well, the Bills, I'll start with how they feel about

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01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 3: everything you just said. They think they're right where they

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01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:59,360
Speaker 3: need to be because they just extended Sean McDermott and

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01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:02,800
Speaker 3: general manager Brandon Bean through twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: YEP.

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01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 3: So they in terms of the organization, the Pacula family,

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01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 3: they're building that new stadium. They feel that Sean McDermott

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01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 3: was the architect of what's happened in Buffalo. They don't

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01:57:16,760 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 3: believe based on the contract they signed with Josh Allen

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01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:22,840
Speaker 3: that any end is in sight in terms of the

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Speaker 3: winning window for Buffalo, and I agree with that. I

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Speaker 3: think overall I agree with that assessment, and not to

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Speaker 3: say that Stefan Diggs isn't an impressive and necessary asset

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01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 3: to this Bill's offense. But Stefan Diggs has to take

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01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 3: a good hard look in the mirror and say to

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01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 3: himself like, Okay, am I cutting off my nose to

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01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,880
Speaker 3: spite my face? Am I making too big of a

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01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:52,600
Speaker 3: deal of whatever it is emotionally that he's going through

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01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 3: with Josh Allen or with Sean McDermott, or how he

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01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 3: feels he's being treated there, or whether or not he's

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01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:01,800
Speaker 3: being highlighted enough for given enough credit for what he's

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01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 3: done with the Buffalo Bills, because the reality is this

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01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:08,320
Speaker 3: is the most relevant he's been his entire career. They've

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01:58:08,360 --> 01:58:11,840
Speaker 3: taken care of him organizationally with a big contract that

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Speaker 3: puts him, you know, as one of the highest paid

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Speaker 3: receivers in the game right now. And I just don't think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the Buffalo Bills are as in much

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01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 3: of as are as dire of shape, as a lot

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Speaker 3: of people have said now, are there issues, yeah, and

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01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 3: this digs things is a big issue, and if it

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01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 3: continues during training camp, it'll be a much bigger issue then.

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Speaker 3: But I have a tendency to believe that this is

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01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,080
Speaker 3: going to get worked out, that they're going to get

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01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 3: back on track, and this offense is going to look

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01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 3: like one of the top offenses in the league this

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Speaker 3: upcoming season. I'm not buying all the hype around the drama.

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01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 3: I think that people feud. I think that you look

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01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:55,880
Speaker 3: at the nineties Bulls, you look at the nineties Dallas Cowboys,

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01:58:55,920 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 3: you look at the Golden State Warriors. Has it been

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01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 3: perfect the whole time? No, But when you're a great

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01:59:04,280 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 3: team and they're not a dynasty the Buffalo Bills, they're

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01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 3: not even close. But when you're a great team, it's

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01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 3: difficult to keep great players personalities in perfect harmony at

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01:59:14,480 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 3: all times.

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Speaker 2: But we all agree that ultimately, when it comes to championships,

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01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:23,160
Speaker 2: with rare exceptions, it comes down to your quarterback. I mean,

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01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:26,280
Speaker 2: when you look at Super Bowl winning quarterbacks, it's a

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01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 2: who's who of quarterbacks. Corse and Josh Allen. I mean,

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Speaker 2: everyone keeps thinking of that amazing shootout he had in

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01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 2: that playoff game against the Chiefs, and you know they

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01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 2: change the role because of that game where both teams

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01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:41,920
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to get the ball in a playoff

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01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 2: game even if that team scores a touchdown in their

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Speaker 2: first possession. Eyeball test. In the big games, I don't

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01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 2: see the same cool in a Josh Allen that I

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01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,840
Speaker 2: see in a Patrick Mahomes or a Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree with the Patrick Mahomes Joe Burrow. If

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02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 3: you go back and look at Joe Burrow some of

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Speaker 3: his passer ratings in those games, He's no Patrick Mahomes either.

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Speaker 2: Well, Mahomes had an awful Super Bowl also. All right,

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Speaker 2: much more coming up, Keep it right here. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. I have something to share it coming

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Speaker 2: out here here we are once again, Yes, this is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, and we are broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: to Twitter, I don't tweet a lot at all. It's rare,

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Speaker 2: very rare. But I do get a lot of tweets

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Speaker 2: from people that you know, follow on at Cannon Hartman,

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Speaker 2: at Ormberger, at Montsey Belangos, and during the course of

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Speaker 2: these Sunday shows, we get a lot of people respond

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Speaker 2: I got this one here. This guy has said this.

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Speaker 2: I won't say name. He says, I listened to a

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Speaker 2: lot of sports talk radio as far as national shows go.

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Speaker 2: You guys are on a tier of your own. Make

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Speaker 2: Sunday Radio enjoyable, keep up the great works, all nice.

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Speaker 2: And then you put this hashtag need more Moncey though.

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Speaker 7: I says that you like that, need more.

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Speaker 2: Moncey though, yeah, which we couldn't agree more yeah bikes.

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Speaker 3: Guy, he's got a fever and the only more description

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Speaker 3: is more mancy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Also MONSI did you see this? This guy

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Speaker 2: sending this, He goes, shouldn't Cannon Hartman be at Paris

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Speaker 2: Fashion Week where all the A list athletes and slebs

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Speaker 2: are covering it for his weekend sportscast. Did you see this?

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Speaker 7: Yes, of Lebron touching rears stomach.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, that's the first thing I see

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Speaker 2: not touching, So she's pregnant. Yeah, and she's wearing like

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Speaker 2: this outfit that exposes her pregnant Tommy.

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02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bellies like poking thrill and he.

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Speaker 2: Without really any warning, rubs her. Now, she sort of

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Speaker 2: put her hand on his hand. She didn't jerk it away,

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Speaker 2: but she didn't exactly look at him. She sort of

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02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 2: turned her head sor like what are you doing?

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Speaker 7: Yes, that was I saw that, and I was like, Lebron.

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Speaker 2: No, you do this. You do this.

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Speaker 3: Every pregnant woman loves it when you do it for

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Speaker 3: good luck for you. But then also pregnant woman will

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02:02:46,280 --> 02:02:48,640
Speaker 3: tell you they love it when you come up to

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Speaker 3: them and without permission just rub their bellies.

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Speaker 2: They look at it. So you look at her, look

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02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:01,680
Speaker 2: at her face, and she recognized and it is Lebron.

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02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:04,880
Speaker 2: And it's not like it's a turrent. Come on, but

2383
02:03:05,520 --> 02:03:07,880
Speaker 2: you can see at least I'm reading her.

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Speaker 3: Is like, stop by a target and I'll go, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'll just yeah, and any any time you see a

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Speaker 3: pregnant belly, I'll roll the dice.

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Speaker 2: No are you seeing this video as well? Sam?

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Speaker 5: I have not seen it yet. I'm just picturing it.

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Speaker 5: But I mean me, Moncey Lebron Rich. We're all sort

2390
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Speaker 5: of around the same age, give or take five six years,

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Speaker 5: and we grew up rubbing the stomachs of troll dolls

2392
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 5: with the little fake jewel in there that was supposed

2393
02:03:31,280 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 5: to bring you good luck, the charm in there and

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Speaker 5: the little belly buttons.

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Speaker 7: So definitely did not. You didn't do that trolls.

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Speaker 2: Well, Myron was just rubbing Rihanna like a troll doll.

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Speaker 2: It's a deal, I understand. Like I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: lebron is looking at her saying, well, you're putting it

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Speaker 2: out there specifically for the purpose. Hang on a second,

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Speaker 2: hang on rubbing it.

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Speaker 3: There are some there are some cheeky bikinis that are

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02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:56,080
Speaker 3: being worn on the beats these days. Though it doesn't

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02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:58,760
Speaker 3: give you permission to go up and just rub buns.

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02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 7: No, never a pregnant woman's belly ever. They hate that.

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Speaker 2: Put that that's different.

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Speaker 8: I told you face, you gonna get punched, and not

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Speaker 8: by me, and not by me when.

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Speaker 7: He comes with the black guy next week. Just assume

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Speaker 7: me touched a pregnant woman's belly.

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Speaker 3: Here, I am joking. I promise you this is one

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Speaker 3: of the and you can almost see it. There's like

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Speaker 3: a flash. There's a moment where she's so shocked that yes, yes, oh.

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Speaker 2: No, she looks she puts her hand on his hand like.

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Speaker 3: It almost felt like she was like, oh, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to freak out, no camera, and then she turns.

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Speaker 2: Away at the end like here she's like oh, and

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Speaker 2: then she doesn't look at him.

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Speaker 3: She looks like that was like, yeah, I just want

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Speaker 3: to get out of here, right like that man just

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Speaker 3: put his hand on my belly.

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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 3: Look, I mean who was like that, by the way,

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Speaker 3: Like who would like that? Like imagine somebody came up

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Speaker 3: to me after an Italian meal, even if I had

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Speaker 3: my belly exposed and was.

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Speaker 2: Like, you got a lot of pasta in there?

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Speaker 3: Are those meat balls happy in there?

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Speaker 2: Do you think you got enough? Partner sean a rub

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Speaker 2: oh yes, not.

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Speaker 8: Like like I'm gonna place my hand on your belly

2431
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:05,240
Speaker 8: for like a it.

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Speaker 7: Is a rock.

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Speaker 3: If he was wearing one of those like buffing towels,

2434
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:11,480
Speaker 3: like there had been a nice shine on her belly

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Speaker 3: after he was finished.

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02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's really uncomfortable. I'm handled it.

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02:05:18,160 --> 02:05:21,120
Speaker 7: Well way better than I would have.

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Speaker 3: What are you doing where when you know who you

2439
02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:26,760
Speaker 3: are and what you can get away with. And this

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Speaker 3: sort of feels like one of those moments where he

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Speaker 3: was just like, yeah, I just feel like rubbing that

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02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:35,280
Speaker 3: belly and I'm just gonna do it, which is not good. No.

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Speaker 2: Well, like you said, I think you bring it up,

2444
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:39,920
Speaker 2: like you go to the beach, right and you know,

2445
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:42,480
Speaker 2: you see beautiful girls and they're in their bikinis and

2446
02:05:42,520 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 2: everything else. That's not a license for you to like

2447
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 2: walk up to them. And I did say that to

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Speaker 2: the officer. Listen, that's just thank you just assume that.

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Speaker 3: Since I saw so much skin, it was like, well,

2450
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:58,600
Speaker 3: well you're showing it off so that I can come

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Speaker 3: in touch it.

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Speaker 7: No, no, Lebron fail, very bad.

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Speaker 3: I was a Lebron fail.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:09,600
Speaker 7: No, I hope Savannah was there and Savannah was like,

2456
02:06:09,680 --> 02:06:12,520
Speaker 7: what were you thinking? Don't do that?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. I told this story before. He's a

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Speaker 2: good family guy and everything else. I mean, if your.

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Speaker 3: Wife you do that, I'm gonna tell a quick story.

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02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:25,040
Speaker 3: My wife was pregnant. She was very pregnant. Okay, so

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02:06:25,240 --> 02:06:27,839
Speaker 3: my eyes are trained to like what a very pregnant

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02:06:27,880 --> 02:06:30,600
Speaker 3: belly looks like. And I went to a department store.

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Speaker 3: I was shopping with my wife. She was actually in

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Speaker 3: the maternity section. She was looking for address because we

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02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:37,840
Speaker 3: had an event to go to while she's pregnant. And

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Speaker 3: so I'm right in the elevator and this woman gets

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02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:42,800
Speaker 3: on and one of the floors and we got a

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02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 3: one floor ride. She's very clearly pregnant. She is as

2469
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Speaker 3: pregnant as my wife was, who was in her third trimester.

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Speaker 3: So I said to her, Oh, my goodness, congratulations winner

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02:06:54,040 --> 02:06:57,600
Speaker 3: you do. And of course she goes, I'm not pregnant,

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02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:01,000
Speaker 3: and she turns her back on me, and she stands

2473
02:07:01,040 --> 02:07:06,440
Speaker 3: and faces the doors, and I'm literally like and so

2474
02:07:06,560 --> 02:07:10,959
Speaker 3: I had no words. It was my floor. The elevator

2475
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,760
Speaker 3: doors open, she walked out. I stayed on the elevator

2476
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:16,800
Speaker 3: and just continue to ride. I didn't know what to do.

2477
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:20,040
Speaker 3: I went hiding. Yeah, oh, it is the worst feeling

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02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:22,480
Speaker 3: in the world. And then I told Anne later on,

2479
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Speaker 3: which I thought she was going to commiserate. She was like, oh,

2480
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Speaker 3: I get it. She goes, are you out of your mind?

2481
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Can you imagine if you were on

2482
02:07:30,400 --> 02:07:32,640
Speaker 2: the elevator with Anne? And then made that comment to

2483
02:07:32,680 --> 02:07:35,800
Speaker 2: that woman. I just she would have you would have

2484
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 2: been done.

2485
02:07:36,280 --> 02:07:38,600
Speaker 3: So this was about a or I guess it's nine

2486
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:40,800
Speaker 3: years ago now because it was while she was pregnant

2487
02:07:40,840 --> 02:07:44,080
Speaker 3: with my eight year old, and I remember thinking myself, like, that'll.

2488
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:44,600
Speaker 2: Be the last time that.

2489
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:48,000
Speaker 3: Yes, there's one, there's one that is a one time

2490
02:07:48,080 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 3: only deal, and even if you're one hundred percent.

2491
02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:53,400
Speaker 7: You can't unless you know the person.

2492
02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:56,200
Speaker 8: You have to live through a moment like that, I

2493
02:07:56,240 --> 02:07:57,320
Speaker 8: think to learn to never.

2494
02:07:57,760 --> 02:07:59,160
Speaker 7: I luckily have never said it to.

2495
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:03,240
Speaker 8: A woman, but one of my coworkers was told multiple times,

2496
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:04,640
Speaker 8: like at moments where.

2497
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:07,040
Speaker 7: It's like how far along are you? And it was like,

2498
02:08:07,640 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 7: oh no, and I don't even I think.

2499
02:08:11,880 --> 02:08:14,320
Speaker 8: I just like grabbed my drink and kept walking up

2500
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:15,560
Speaker 8: was like I cannot.

2501
02:08:15,800 --> 02:08:19,240
Speaker 3: I wanted to throw up, like the face she gave me,

2502
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:20,720
Speaker 3: I want to throw up right now. She was like

2503
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:23,720
Speaker 3: she was like I'm not pregnant, and she gave me

2504
02:08:23,760 --> 02:08:26,320
Speaker 3: that face of like like she wanted to finish the

2505
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:30,600
Speaker 3: sentence with a derogatory like U A hole whatever it was,

2506
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 3: but she spared me and she turned around and it

2507
02:08:33,680 --> 02:08:36,160
Speaker 3: was one of those elevators where you know everybody's been

2508
02:08:36,160 --> 02:08:38,560
Speaker 3: on it, where it's kind of like it stops for

2509
02:08:38,600 --> 02:08:41,880
Speaker 3: a while and then it's like it takes a while

2510
02:08:41,960 --> 02:08:43,960
Speaker 3: to get the next four I'm saying. I'm like, I'm

2511
02:08:43,960 --> 02:08:46,560
Speaker 3: on the slowest elevator on the planet.

2512
02:08:46,640 --> 02:08:48,600
Speaker 2: Could have gone through the top of the elevator, dude,

2513
02:08:48,640 --> 02:08:49,839
Speaker 2: I like eggs of the elevator.

2514
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:52,360
Speaker 10: That way it was, that's where you get out. You

2515
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:56,400
Speaker 10: go up like that something a gift card. What do

2516
02:08:56,400 --> 02:08:58,880
Speaker 10: you mean by the way, it was not Rihanna. Good,

2517
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:00,760
Speaker 10: it wasn't Rihann Yeah, some.

2518
02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:04,360
Speaker 2: Lady, but this was and uh, I can't if you're

2519
02:09:04,480 --> 02:09:08,640
Speaker 2: lebron you you she's putting out there to say, you know, like, okay,

2520
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:13,400
Speaker 2: what do you do or hay, congratulations excited for you guys,

2521
02:09:13,560 --> 02:09:18,360
Speaker 2: Yes you do not not just put your rub it now.

2522
02:09:18,400 --> 02:09:20,560
Speaker 3: I'm going to go to Rihanna's Twitter. I'm gonna see

2523
02:09:20,560 --> 02:09:23,800
Speaker 3: if like, maybe she welcomes this, Maybe she's put up like.

2524
02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 2: I mean, she she understands the pr aspect and that

2525
02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:30,000
Speaker 2: he's an insanely famous person like she is. She's doing

2526
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:30,680
Speaker 2: it like.

2527
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:34,120
Speaker 3: She's got the belly. She's doing the summer.

2528
02:09:35,560 --> 02:09:36,680
Speaker 2: You got a belly out there.

2529
02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:40,920
Speaker 8: Her putting her hand on top of his hand was

2530
02:09:40,960 --> 02:09:42,400
Speaker 8: a sign to stop.

2531
02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:44,440
Speaker 3: Stop, get off my belly.

2532
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:48,200
Speaker 7: Yes, because if it didn't, then she turned to the friend.

2533
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:48,880
Speaker 2: I believe.

2534
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 7: I think, yes, I agree.

2535
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:54,480
Speaker 2: Like, basically tell your friend, yes, that guy to get

2536
02:09:54,800 --> 02:09:55,760
Speaker 2: off she has.

2537
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:59,320
Speaker 3: On May eighteenth, she said, here's a little serious I

2538
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:03,120
Speaker 3: call rub on your boobies.

2539
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:04,600
Speaker 2: But she doesn't use the word boobies.

2540
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:08,200
Speaker 3: Oh really Yeah, Okay, she's literally posted pictures of her.

2541
02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:10,360
Speaker 2: Even if you say it doesn't mean you're supposed to know.

2542
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:12,560
Speaker 3: I'm not saying, but I'm just saying. I'm like, maybe

2543
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:15,680
Speaker 3: there's context clues somewhere out there. Again, I'm not defending Lebron.

2544
02:10:15,920 --> 02:10:18,520
Speaker 3: In fact, I think this was this was, in fact

2545
02:10:18,600 --> 02:10:19,600
Speaker 3: the wrong thing to do.

2546
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 2: Guys, Well, what if what if after Lebron people are like,

2547
02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:24,480
Speaker 2: oh it is cool, and all of a sudden, you

2548
02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:26,160
Speaker 2: have a bunch of guys come running up to her

2549
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:27,600
Speaker 2: saying I'm gonna rub I'm gonna rub it.

2550
02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:30,720
Speaker 3: Let's welcome in bow to this conversation. What if I mean,

2551
02:10:30,760 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 3: maybe this is bo is fighting and he's a Lakers fan, Yeah, but.

2552
02:10:36,560 --> 02:10:38,800
Speaker 2: Fighting through a lot to just be here. Yeah.

2553
02:10:38,840 --> 02:10:40,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, so I have to try the way. Have we

2554
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:43,320
Speaker 11: considered that maybe Lebron and Rihanna are just friends.

2555
02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:45,920
Speaker 2: Well, even if they are friends, that doesn't mean I'm

2556
02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:46,680
Speaker 2: sure they are.

2557
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:50,400
Speaker 11: Maybe in the public eye, so they're always going to I'm.

2558
02:10:50,240 --> 02:10:51,840
Speaker 2: Looking at her reaction.

2559
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 3: Maybe the first time he's rubbed her belly. Though maybe

2560
02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:58,120
Speaker 3: this is something they do, like you know, I thrive it,

2561
02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:01,480
Speaker 3: but not in sublic handshakes. Was certain friends like maybe

2562
02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:02,200
Speaker 3: this is how they say.

2563
02:11:02,600 --> 02:11:04,760
Speaker 11: I don't think he is such a thing as privacy

2564
02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:07,440
Speaker 11: for Lebron, James or Rihanna at this point in time.

2565
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:11,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're reading in there. I mean again, I'm

2566
02:11:11,200 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 2: looking at her, so I'm watching her.

2567
02:11:12,880 --> 02:11:14,800
Speaker 11: She parted a lot about.

2568
02:11:14,800 --> 02:11:16,200
Speaker 3: Or against belly rub gage.

2569
02:11:16,280 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 7: How did your wife who was pregnant out that long ago?

2570
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 7: How does she handle that?

2571
02:11:19,960 --> 02:11:20,200
Speaker 3: Well?

2572
02:11:20,240 --> 02:11:21,560
Speaker 2: Nobody really did it.

2573
02:11:21,480 --> 02:11:23,120
Speaker 7: Right because you're not supposed to.

2574
02:11:23,440 --> 02:11:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you had brought her in when she

2575
02:11:25,640 --> 02:11:28,240
Speaker 2: was in her third trimester and we all came running

2576
02:11:28,320 --> 02:11:30,240
Speaker 2: up and started rubbing her belly, shit had been okay

2577
02:11:30,280 --> 02:11:30,520
Speaker 2: with that?

2578
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:30,920
Speaker 6: She?

2579
02:11:31,160 --> 02:11:34,600
Speaker 11: Uh, if she had given permission to people to do it.

2580
02:11:34,640 --> 02:11:37,000
Speaker 11: I don't think what if we just walked up and Yeah,

2581
02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:40,280
Speaker 11: but again, like like I think we don't. We don't

2582
02:11:40,320 --> 02:11:43,000
Speaker 11: know enough about the relationship that Lebron and Rihanna have

2583
02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:44,000
Speaker 11: to really.

2584
02:11:43,880 --> 02:11:47,400
Speaker 3: This is this is like a cross examination from from.

2585
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 2: Like I would I would run out there and I

2586
02:11:49,320 --> 02:11:55,040
Speaker 2: would be like, uh, ten more days? Would ten more day?

2587
02:11:55,160 --> 02:11:59,400
Speaker 2: I would like, I'm sorry, eleven more day?

2588
02:11:59,600 --> 02:12:01,120
Speaker 7: Absolute that will be.

2589
02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what's going on here, but I

2590
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:11,360
Speaker 3: will say this, I will never ever ever in the

2591
02:12:11,440 --> 02:12:13,640
Speaker 3: course of my life. And I rarely say never. I

2592
02:12:13,680 --> 02:12:17,520
Speaker 3: don't like to to speaking ultimatums, but I will never

2593
02:12:17,720 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 3: ever try to guess whether or not a woman's pregnant again.

2594
02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:23,960
Speaker 3: I'll never touch her belly, Like there is no way

2595
02:12:24,160 --> 02:12:26,200
Speaker 3: but rich it was. It was well intentioned.

2596
02:12:26,360 --> 02:12:29,120
Speaker 5: Oh no, dude, I was lady needs to like look

2597
02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:30,920
Speaker 5: down and be like, hey, I have a huge beer

2598
02:12:30,960 --> 02:12:33,440
Speaker 5: gut going. I was so excited for you have You

2599
02:12:33,480 --> 02:12:37,160
Speaker 5: have no idea the level of excitation she was she

2600
02:12:37,280 --> 02:12:39,560
Speaker 5: was met with when she entered this elevator. I'm like,

2601
02:12:39,600 --> 02:12:42,560
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, congratulations, my wife is upstairs.

2602
02:12:43,000 --> 02:12:45,840
Speaker 3: She's in the maternity shop of my way to meet

2603
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:48,200
Speaker 3: with her. I was like, I was like, this is great.

2604
02:12:48,240 --> 02:12:50,360
Speaker 3: When do you do because I thought we're gonna have

2605
02:12:50,360 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 3: a little pow wow over, like, you know, how's your pregnancy.

2606
02:12:54,880 --> 02:12:57,360
Speaker 3: She's just like, yeah, no, that's that's cue delba in

2607
02:12:57,440 --> 02:13:03,080
Speaker 3: there like it was rough man, don't ever do it.

2608
02:13:03,200 --> 02:13:06,840
Speaker 11: I had a family friend do that to someone at

2609
02:13:06,840 --> 02:13:09,879
Speaker 11: an event that just happened to be Christmas Eve. Yeah,

2610
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:13,040
Speaker 11: so she spent the entirety of Christmas Eve just locked

2611
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:16,720
Speaker 11: in a room crying because someone someone thought she was pregnant.

2612
02:13:17,000 --> 02:13:20,840
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Well this is just proof again that

2613
02:13:20,880 --> 02:13:23,840
Speaker 2: your input on our Twitter accounts can change the conversation

2614
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:25,480
Speaker 2: real real quick.

2615
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:27,520
Speaker 3: I've been asked many times, by the way, if I

2616
02:13:27,640 --> 02:13:30,960
Speaker 3: was pregnant. I never got offended in my defense, So

2617
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:31,840
Speaker 3: that's the reason why I.

2618
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:35,320
Speaker 2: Actually, you know, I've seen him at a variety of weights,

2619
02:13:35,360 --> 02:13:39,560
Speaker 2: that's right. I mean I saw him my absolutely riches. Again,

2620
02:13:39,760 --> 02:13:45,360
Speaker 2: he really went out of his ways. Yeah, we here

2621
02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:49,320
Speaker 2: doing these Monday and Thursday night appearances at these different places,

2622
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:53,480
Speaker 2: and we were encouraged, obviously to sample the food. And

2623
02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:58,160
Speaker 2: then when he ordered a party platter, to the shock

2624
02:13:58,240 --> 02:14:01,320
Speaker 2: of the young lady serving us saying so this is

2625
02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:04,520
Speaker 2: for all of you, and he's like, no one, just

2626
02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:05,560
Speaker 2: one set of utensis.

2627
02:14:05,880 --> 02:14:09,400
Speaker 7: Ron Swanson of well, yeah, said.

2628
02:14:09,280 --> 02:14:13,400
Speaker 2: This is a party of one. The shock in our face.

2629
02:14:13,440 --> 02:14:15,360
Speaker 2: I just I just gave it the hand. That was

2630
02:14:15,480 --> 02:14:17,160
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what that was. The that was the

2631
02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:19,920
Speaker 2: best fall of my life. Oh my, you remember you

2632
02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:23,640
Speaker 2: remember the tots loaded tots? I mean, and he gets

2633
02:14:23,720 --> 02:14:25,560
Speaker 2: various and then he went back for more like we

2634
02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:27,720
Speaker 2: were done with our show, and he's like, I gotta

2635
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:30,600
Speaker 2: go back. I'll see it though, I'll see it. And

2636
02:14:30,640 --> 02:14:33,040
Speaker 2: I was parked at his house. I had a walk

2637
02:14:33,320 --> 02:14:35,960
Speaker 2: by myself. Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it

2638
02:14:36,080 --> 02:14:37,840
Speaker 2: was business to deal with because he had to go

2639
02:14:37,960 --> 02:14:40,160
Speaker 2: back for more loaded tots. All right. On the other side,

2640
02:14:40,200 --> 02:14:44,440
Speaker 2: let's get back to some NBA all right, So we

2641
02:14:44,600 --> 02:14:47,240
Speaker 2: need to figure this whole thing out in terms of

2642
02:14:47,360 --> 02:14:51,880
Speaker 2: deals that have been done. Which team actually did themselves

2643
02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:55,160
Speaker 2: the biggest favor. We'll break it down. This is Fox

2644
02:14:55,160 --> 02:15:07,360
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Steve Hartman and a Rich Armburger hashtag mormonsey.

2645
02:15:09,400 --> 02:15:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's been made very uh, that's been made

2646
02:15:13,160 --> 02:15:15,840
Speaker 3: very clear on Twitter to all.

2647
02:15:16,280 --> 02:15:18,000
Speaker 2: Once again, we were a live from the tirerach dot

2648
02:15:18,040 --> 02:15:20,280
Speaker 2: com studios. All right, let's get back to the NBA

2649
02:15:20,360 --> 02:15:26,120
Speaker 2: for a moment here. So the the bar's been set right.

2650
02:15:26,160 --> 02:15:28,480
Speaker 2: The Denver Nuggets are now the team to beat in

2651
02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:31,560
Speaker 2: the NBA. And by the way, just the way that

2652
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:37,760
Speaker 2: team has been put together from the organizational standpoint is

2653
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:40,320
Speaker 2: really the way you hope to put it together. In

2654
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:44,720
Speaker 2: other words, you draft players, you develop players, you have

2655
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:47,960
Speaker 2: a coach that has a system that they buy into,

2656
02:15:48,600 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 2: and by the end of it, you're all on the

2657
02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:54,360
Speaker 2: same page. And what was very clear in the aftermath

2658
02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:58,240
Speaker 2: of the Nuggets winning that NBA championship is that that

2659
02:15:58,400 --> 02:16:02,080
Speaker 2: was a unified team. Everybody's on the same page. Yep,

2660
02:16:02,440 --> 02:16:05,200
Speaker 2: they were complimentary of each other. You know, it really

2661
02:16:05,240 --> 02:16:08,960
Speaker 2: starts with Jokich because he's just that he's very humble

2662
02:16:09,560 --> 02:16:11,840
Speaker 2: and he didn't want to have the spotlight on him.

2663
02:16:12,440 --> 02:16:16,040
Speaker 2: He praised everybody else for the success of the team.

2664
02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:18,320
Speaker 2: And this is very similar to Tim Duncan back in

2665
02:16:18,360 --> 02:16:20,440
Speaker 2: the day with San Antonio, right of course, as they

2666
02:16:20,440 --> 02:16:24,880
Speaker 2: were developing players like Jennoble and Parker and eventually Kawhi Leonard.

2667
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:28,480
Speaker 2: And you know that Duncan's the glue. Obviously he would

2668
02:16:28,520 --> 02:16:31,400
Speaker 2: never want the spotlight. So that that's very good for

2669
02:16:31,440 --> 02:16:33,640
Speaker 2: any team. And I think Denver's gonna win plenty of

2670
02:16:33,720 --> 02:16:38,520
Speaker 2: championships with this group. Still, you now know what you

2671
02:16:38,680 --> 02:16:41,560
Speaker 2: have to do. You know that's the bar there. How

2672
02:16:41,600 --> 02:16:44,480
Speaker 2: do we get to where the Nuggets are right now?

2673
02:16:45,280 --> 02:16:47,560
Speaker 2: And we've had a lot of a flurry of activities

2674
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:50,720
Speaker 2: so far. So let's get back with the Boston Celtics

2675
02:16:51,160 --> 02:16:54,880
Speaker 2: and the addition of Persingu's the subtraction of Marcus Smart.

2676
02:16:55,080 --> 02:16:56,800
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting and you didn't really have

2677
02:16:56,840 --> 02:16:59,959
Speaker 2: a chance to follow up on it. Rich talking about

2678
02:17:00,040 --> 02:17:04,560
Speaker 2: out that you think in that three team deal that

2679
02:17:04,959 --> 02:17:07,920
Speaker 2: the Celtics are not the team that came out on top.

2680
02:17:08,200 --> 02:17:11,760
Speaker 2: You think Memphis actually came away looking the best.

2681
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:14,199
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, for a couple of reasons.

2682
02:17:14,240 --> 02:17:16,080
Speaker 2: And by the way, this is a Memphis team with

2683
02:17:16,160 --> 02:17:19,760
Speaker 2: the whole Ga Morant situation. We're not really sure he's

2684
02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:22,359
Speaker 2: going to be suspended for twenty five games at least,

2685
02:17:23,280 --> 02:17:25,520
Speaker 2: we'll see if that's number holds up. I think twenty

2686
02:17:25,600 --> 02:17:28,520
Speaker 2: five will be the number, by the way, but that's

2687
02:17:28,560 --> 02:17:31,840
Speaker 2: a team that look really good. Remember they were what

2688
02:17:31,920 --> 02:17:34,279
Speaker 2: the number two seed they look for the West.

2689
02:17:34,840 --> 02:17:39,240
Speaker 3: I I just I'm look, here's here's the two things,

2690
02:17:39,480 --> 02:17:42,360
Speaker 3: and it's it's a little bit, it's a little bit

2691
02:17:42,400 --> 02:17:45,400
Speaker 3: of addition. By subtraction, one is going to be temporarily,

2692
02:17:45,480 --> 02:17:49,680
Speaker 3: one is going to be permanently. But Dylan Brooks, I

2693
02:17:50,040 --> 02:17:52,800
Speaker 3: think over State is welcome in Memphis, no doubt. And

2694
02:17:52,879 --> 02:17:56,840
Speaker 3: I think that that's the sort of immaturity that the

2695
02:17:56,879 --> 02:18:01,160
Speaker 3: Grizzlies organization is looking to turn turn their back on.

2696
02:18:01,560 --> 02:18:04,280
Speaker 3: They're not looking for the little kid stuff anymore. Where

2697
02:18:04,320 --> 02:18:08,160
Speaker 3: you saw Dylan Brooks, who is a talented basketball player,

2698
02:18:08,200 --> 02:18:11,440
Speaker 3: but you know, the whole commentary when they're facing the

2699
02:18:11,520 --> 02:18:15,440
Speaker 3: Lakers about you know, Ipoke Bears and then like the

2700
02:18:15,600 --> 02:18:18,600
Speaker 3: sad walk from the from the arena after they got

2701
02:18:18,680 --> 02:18:22,760
Speaker 3: knocked out by the Lakers. It just smacked of immaturity.

2702
02:18:23,240 --> 02:18:27,240
Speaker 3: And this whole situation was Jean Morant and the fact

2703
02:18:27,240 --> 02:18:30,760
Speaker 3: that he got caught on Instagram Live with a gun

2704
02:18:31,280 --> 02:18:34,880
Speaker 3: and then served an eight game suspension and then apologized,

2705
02:18:35,240 --> 02:18:39,040
Speaker 3: and then another video surfaces and at first it looks

2706
02:18:39,080 --> 02:18:41,200
Speaker 3: like a gun, but then somebody in his camp says

2707
02:18:41,240 --> 02:18:43,760
Speaker 3: it's a toy, and then the NBA investigation results in

2708
02:18:43,800 --> 02:18:47,120
Speaker 3: a twenty five game suspension, and then his camp is

2709
02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:49,840
Speaker 3: upset because it was actually a lighter, not a toy,

2710
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:53,640
Speaker 3: and it was certainly wasn't a gun, and then they

2711
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:56,200
Speaker 3: feel like the NBA and the media are after and

2712
02:18:56,320 --> 02:18:59,480
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah blah. This team needs some maturity. Now,

2713
02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm not going to paint Marcus Smart as the most

2714
02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:07,959
Speaker 3: mature player in NBA history. That's not the case. But

2715
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:10,959
Speaker 3: he is a leader, and he has played in a

2716
02:19:11,000 --> 02:19:14,000
Speaker 3: lot of Game sevens, and he has been a glue

2717
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:17,440
Speaker 3: guy in Boston. And can he be emotional yeah? Can

2718
02:19:17,480 --> 02:19:19,400
Speaker 3: he be emotionally turbulent at times?

2719
02:19:19,480 --> 02:19:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2720
02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:23,440
Speaker 3: Now it hasn't been a perfect story, but this is

2721
02:19:23,840 --> 02:19:26,320
Speaker 3: a veteran player. This is a guy who's played in

2722
02:19:26,400 --> 02:19:30,080
Speaker 3: high leverage, highly emotional situations, and he's dealt with locker

2723
02:19:30,120 --> 02:19:33,200
Speaker 3: room strife between Brown and Tatum. And I think that

2724
02:19:33,360 --> 02:19:35,800
Speaker 3: the Boston Celtics have been better, not worse, for him

2725
02:19:35,879 --> 02:19:38,160
Speaker 3: being a part of all of this. And I think

2726
02:19:38,200 --> 02:19:40,600
Speaker 3: that he could go to Memphis and he could show

2727
02:19:40,720 --> 02:19:44,360
Speaker 3: Jean Morant how to comport himself a little bit.

2728
02:19:44,560 --> 02:19:50,480
Speaker 2: I think it is a huge addition for Memphis. Yeah,

2729
02:19:50,520 --> 02:19:53,959
Speaker 2: and again not knowing Marcus Smart personally, but those that

2730
02:19:54,040 --> 02:19:56,760
Speaker 2: have been around him and we talked about his impact

2731
02:19:56,840 --> 02:20:01,039
Speaker 2: in that locker room, that's steadying force if there's a

2732
02:20:01,080 --> 02:20:04,760
Speaker 2: team that needs that, every team needs it, but if

2733
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:07,560
Speaker 2: there's a team that needs it right now, it's Memphis

2734
02:20:07,959 --> 02:20:12,320
Speaker 2: because when Jamaran does return, you know, all eyes are

2735
02:20:12,320 --> 02:20:14,040
Speaker 2: going to be on him. He's going to be under

2736
02:20:14,520 --> 02:20:18,480
Speaker 2: the microscope because you know, you've fooled me once for

2737
02:20:18,640 --> 02:20:22,520
Speaker 2: only twice, you know, the whole thing, And Marcus Smart

2738
02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:25,000
Speaker 2: could be a steadying influence in that locker room when

2739
02:20:25,080 --> 02:20:28,959
Speaker 2: Jamran actually returns. So I agree with you. I think

2740
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:32,680
Speaker 2: Memphis potentially because Marcus Smart, by the way we focus

2741
02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:36,080
Speaker 2: on his defense, he's capable of offense. On the Celtics,

2742
02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:39,240
Speaker 2: he wasn't required to be that much of an offensive force,

2743
02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:41,760
Speaker 2: but he's certainly capable. He's going to fill a huge

2744
02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:44,160
Speaker 2: void for that team until Jamaran returns.

2745
02:20:44,200 --> 02:20:46,879
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean they needed somebody to do that

2746
02:20:47,080 --> 02:20:49,720
Speaker 3: job anyways. And then on top of it, not only

2747
02:20:49,760 --> 02:20:54,000
Speaker 3: did they trade for a capable point guard and facilitator

2748
02:20:54,120 --> 02:20:57,800
Speaker 3: and scorer in in Marcus Smart, but they also get

2749
02:20:57,800 --> 02:21:01,519
Speaker 3: the added benefit of his leadership. And you know, there's

2750
02:21:01,560 --> 02:21:06,880
Speaker 3: a little there's a little something to humility, especially earlier

2751
02:21:06,920 --> 02:21:10,080
Speaker 3: in your career, Like there are certain players who will

2752
02:21:10,080 --> 02:21:12,360
Speaker 3: talk about this sometimes like it was good for them

2753
02:21:12,400 --> 02:21:15,039
Speaker 3: to ride the bench a little bit earlier in their career,

2754
02:21:15,480 --> 02:21:17,760
Speaker 3: or it was good for them to have some sort

2755
02:21:17,800 --> 02:21:25,400
Speaker 3: of not devastating but maybe maybe a moment that changed

2756
02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:29,120
Speaker 3: everything and and and that moment of clarity for Jean

2757
02:21:29,200 --> 02:21:33,160
Speaker 3: mormp maybe this twenty five game suspension. And then also

2758
02:21:33,879 --> 02:21:37,480
Speaker 3: if the Memphis Grizzlies, and for his benefit, I hope

2759
02:21:37,480 --> 02:21:41,320
Speaker 3: they do if they have success without them, you know,

2760
02:21:41,920 --> 02:21:44,360
Speaker 3: you don't have that ability to believe in your personal

2761
02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:47,760
Speaker 3: fable anymore. Like they need me. I'm the most important

2762
02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:50,360
Speaker 3: thing in Memphis. It's like, well, clearly if you come

2763
02:21:50,400 --> 02:21:53,840
Speaker 3: back game twenty six and the Memphis Grizzly are off

2764
02:21:53,840 --> 02:21:57,560
Speaker 3: to I don't know, eighteen and seven, yeah, twenty and five,

2765
02:21:57,640 --> 02:22:00,080
Speaker 3: start something crazy, you know what I mean, Like all

2766
02:22:00,120 --> 02:22:03,760
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you go wow, like yeah, there's other

2767
02:22:03,800 --> 02:22:07,160
Speaker 3: ways to do this, And so I think that level

2768
02:22:07,200 --> 02:22:09,760
Speaker 3: of humility might be good for Jean Moran. Look, the

2769
02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:13,000
Speaker 3: future will only tell. Time will tell the NBA they

2770
02:22:13,080 --> 02:22:15,600
Speaker 3: want him to be a face of this league moving forward.

2771
02:22:16,280 --> 02:22:19,280
Speaker 3: It's off to a really rocky start here. But again,

2772
02:22:19,320 --> 02:22:21,120
Speaker 3: I think this was a really brilliant move and we'll

2773
02:22:21,120 --> 02:22:22,960
Speaker 3: see how it goes for Boston too. Again, I don't

2774
02:22:22,959 --> 02:22:25,560
Speaker 3: want to lose track of the fact that Boston may

2775
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:28,960
Speaker 3: have gotten better from a talent standpoint, bringing Porzingis, especially

2776
02:22:29,000 --> 02:22:32,280
Speaker 3: on the offensive side. But what they lose is that

2777
02:22:32,320 --> 02:22:34,600
Speaker 3: glue guy we were talking about in Marcus Smart. So

2778
02:22:34,640 --> 02:22:37,240
Speaker 3: we'll see if they're able to capably put together a

2779
02:22:37,280 --> 02:22:41,199
Speaker 3: season that resembles last season where they're a huge problem

2780
02:22:41,280 --> 02:22:44,320
Speaker 3: in the East, and maybe they can make it farther

2781
02:22:44,400 --> 02:22:45,480
Speaker 3: this time. I don't know, though.

2782
02:22:45,600 --> 02:22:48,440
Speaker 2: It's well, they're a team again that was banged up

2783
02:22:48,480 --> 02:22:50,760
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. People forget this when they lost to

2784
02:22:50,800 --> 02:22:54,560
Speaker 2: the Lakers. You know, Adams was out, Clark was hurt,

2785
02:22:55,160 --> 02:22:57,760
Speaker 2: Bainey got banged up. I mean Adam was hurt. Yeah,

2786
02:22:57,800 --> 02:23:00,320
Speaker 2: he came back. Yeah, I mean they were a banging

2787
02:23:00,360 --> 02:23:04,000
Speaker 2: a basketball team. But that was a two seed. Two seed, yeah,

2788
02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:06,879
Speaker 2: behind Denver in the Western Conference. All right, let's find

2789
02:23:06,920 --> 02:23:09,840
Speaker 2: out what is trending right now? Should we just refer

2790
02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:15,199
Speaker 2: to her as hashtag need more moncy though?

2791
02:23:16,280 --> 02:23:18,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm telling you I'm making shirts. We're just all

2792
02:23:18,680 --> 02:23:20,560
Speaker 7: going to wear them. It'll just be easier that way.

2793
02:23:20,640 --> 02:23:23,680
Speaker 7: I like the thhow I do too, I do too.

2794
02:23:24,360 --> 02:23:28,720
Speaker 8: I'm reading an article about Antonio Brown was on Tyreek Kills.

2795
02:23:29,080 --> 02:23:32,720
Speaker 7: It needs to be said podcasts. This happened yesterday, and

2796
02:23:32,840 --> 02:23:33,680
Speaker 7: so much.

2797
02:23:33,520 --> 02:23:35,920
Speaker 8: To dissect as to what he.

2798
02:23:35,840 --> 02:23:36,560
Speaker 7: Is saying in this.

2799
02:23:37,160 --> 02:23:40,920
Speaker 8: Basically, he is blaming Tom Brady for that shirtless exit

2800
02:23:41,000 --> 02:23:43,240
Speaker 8: he had in twenty twenty one during the third quarter

2801
02:23:43,280 --> 02:23:46,240
Speaker 8: against the Jets where he takes off. He said that

2802
02:23:46,320 --> 02:23:49,440
Speaker 8: he told the team Bruce Arians tom Brady before that

2803
02:23:49,520 --> 02:23:51,360
Speaker 8: game that he was hurt. He had a torn ligament,

2804
02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:52,760
Speaker 8: and he was like, I need two weeks off, the

2805
02:23:52,800 --> 02:23:54,760
Speaker 8: last two weeks of the regular season so that we

2806
02:23:54,800 --> 02:23:57,160
Speaker 8: can prepare for the playoffs because super Bowl is what matters.

2807
02:23:57,320 --> 02:24:01,520
Speaker 8: That Bruce Arians responded, hey man, we resting, and that

2808
02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:05,280
Speaker 8: tom Brady called him and enticed him to play by

2809
02:24:05,320 --> 02:24:07,320
Speaker 8: telling him that he was gonna hit him with ten

2810
02:24:07,400 --> 02:24:09,720
Speaker 8: to twelve targets, even though he knew he shouldn't have

2811
02:24:09,760 --> 02:24:10,199
Speaker 8: been playing.

2812
02:24:10,520 --> 02:24:12,080
Speaker 7: He was like, all right, that's all. If you want

2813
02:24:12,120 --> 02:24:13,200
Speaker 7: me, if you're gonna throw the ball at me.

2814
02:24:13,240 --> 02:24:16,200
Speaker 8: I'm gonna play. So obviously it didn't go well. He

2815
02:24:16,240 --> 02:24:18,400
Speaker 8: said he was hurt. He said the Bucks handle the

2816
02:24:18,440 --> 02:24:21,160
Speaker 8: situation poorly. He felt that they treated him like a dog.

2817
02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:25,760
Speaker 8: He also said that Brady began calling him a narcissist

2818
02:24:25,840 --> 02:24:28,280
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty one, and he was like, this guy's

2819
02:24:28,320 --> 02:24:31,600
Speaker 8: no longer trying to support me but control him. He

2820
02:24:31,640 --> 02:24:37,320
Speaker 8: also doesn't like his doctor, Tom Brady's doctor, Alex Guerrero.

2821
02:24:37,840 --> 02:24:39,560
Speaker 8: He said that that guy is a fraud. He's like,

2822
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:42,240
Speaker 8: he doesn't even read the MRI. He was just trying

2823
02:24:42,280 --> 02:24:43,680
Speaker 8: to tell me to do things. And he says that

2824
02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:46,200
Speaker 8: he paid him one hundred thousand dollars during the season

2825
02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:49,480
Speaker 8: to help him, and he's like, he's a fraud.

2826
02:24:49,640 --> 02:24:52,520
Speaker 2: Well, Alex Rurera, you remember he once said that he

2827
02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:54,080
Speaker 2: had the cure for cancer.

2828
02:24:54,680 --> 02:24:55,760
Speaker 7: I did not know that.

2829
02:24:56,040 --> 02:24:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, at one point he actually had a cure for cancer.

2830
02:25:00,040 --> 02:25:03,640
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not all that sympathetic to Antonio Brant.

2831
02:25:03,800 --> 02:25:08,039
Speaker 2: I mean, even if all of that was true, that's

2832
02:25:08,040 --> 02:25:09,080
Speaker 2: how you exit the field.

2833
02:25:09,200 --> 02:25:10,600
Speaker 7: Oh no, he's a cougar bird.

2834
02:25:10,840 --> 02:25:15,199
Speaker 2: Well, even if all of that was true, Yeah, that's

2835
02:25:15,240 --> 02:25:16,400
Speaker 2: not the way you exit right.

2836
02:25:16,600 --> 02:25:18,199
Speaker 3: The thing about it is, we were just talking about

2837
02:25:18,240 --> 02:25:21,680
Speaker 3: Jean Moran and personal accountability and maturity and all those things.

2838
02:25:21,720 --> 02:25:25,800
Speaker 3: Like Antonio Brown is thirty, he's been doing this for

2839
02:25:26,000 --> 02:25:28,720
Speaker 3: or older now, Oh yeah, he's been doing this for

2840
02:25:28,840 --> 02:25:31,480
Speaker 3: a decade before he got to Tampa Bay, or close

2841
02:25:31,520 --> 02:25:34,440
Speaker 3: to a decade. And you're telling me that this is

2842
02:25:34,440 --> 02:25:37,160
Speaker 3: the first time you've ever had an instance where a

2843
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:40,199
Speaker 3: coach was leaning on you to play through an injury

2844
02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:43,120
Speaker 3: that's never happened in the course of your entire playing career.

2845
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:46,280
Speaker 3: You had a quarterback I don't know, maybe like Big

2846
02:25:46,320 --> 02:25:48,840
Speaker 3: Ben for example, who was talking about targeting you a lot,

2847
02:25:48,840 --> 02:25:49,640
Speaker 3: and it didn't.

2848
02:25:49,480 --> 02:25:50,240
Speaker 2: Quite go that way.

2849
02:25:50,520 --> 02:25:54,160
Speaker 3: It's just it's like, yeah, okay, everything you're saying sounds

2850
02:25:55,000 --> 02:25:56,760
Speaker 3: like a normal day at work.

2851
02:25:58,000 --> 02:26:00,440
Speaker 2: I mean, like this is. And also, by the way,

2852
02:26:00,480 --> 02:26:01,680
Speaker 2: everybody plays.

2853
02:26:01,400 --> 02:26:04,680
Speaker 3: Hurt, Like I mean, you're talking about an injury that

2854
02:26:04,959 --> 02:26:08,360
Speaker 3: I would guess the majority of the league has played through,

2855
02:26:09,000 --> 02:26:10,879
Speaker 3: and it's just the reality of the NFL.

2856
02:26:11,120 --> 02:26:13,360
Speaker 2: Are you hurt or are you everybody's hurt on the field?

2857
02:26:13,360 --> 02:26:20,360
Speaker 2: By the way, have you ever question the resumes hurt?

2858
02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:24,400
Speaker 2: But some people like to dismiss Mike Tomlin in the

2859
02:26:24,440 --> 02:26:28,160
Speaker 2: conversation of great coaches. Think about the fact that he

2860
02:26:28,280 --> 02:26:30,720
Speaker 2: was his coach for what eight years, that he was

2861
02:26:30,800 --> 02:26:34,920
Speaker 2: able to not only deal with Antonio Brown, but allow

2862
02:26:35,000 --> 02:26:38,760
Speaker 2: Antonio Brown to have a Hall of Fame resume. Oh yeah,

2863
02:26:38,800 --> 02:26:41,880
Speaker 2: because everybody that tried to handle Antonio Brown when he

2864
02:26:41,959 --> 02:26:47,600
Speaker 2: left Pittsburgh couldn't fail right miserably, and yet somehow Mike

2865
02:26:47,640 --> 02:26:51,920
Speaker 2: Tomlin was able to hold this guy together for eight years, right, Craser.

2866
02:26:52,040 --> 02:26:55,480
Speaker 4: And it's just since leaving the NFL, it's like you

2867
02:26:55,560 --> 02:26:59,480
Speaker 4: have been the worst your soccer team or your football

2868
02:26:59,480 --> 02:27:01,960
Speaker 4: indoor football team that you were in charge of for

2869
02:27:02,040 --> 02:27:04,520
Speaker 4: like two seconds, they already kicked him out of the league.

2870
02:27:04,800 --> 02:27:07,080
Speaker 8: Those pictures that we saw when he was like abroad

2871
02:27:07,360 --> 02:27:09,800
Speaker 8: on the Bowl with the Tours, or it's like you

2872
02:27:09,840 --> 02:27:12,840
Speaker 8: have been a mess this entire time, and this is

2873
02:27:13,360 --> 02:27:15,760
Speaker 8: who you decide to spill this with, Tyreek Hill.

2874
02:27:15,920 --> 02:27:17,400
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, Mesh.

2875
02:27:17,440 --> 02:27:19,959
Speaker 7: It is a mess. It is a mess. But the

2876
02:27:19,959 --> 02:27:20,920
Speaker 7: Braves are not a mess.

2877
02:27:20,959 --> 02:27:21,039
Speaker 1: No.

2878
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:22,680
Speaker 7: They have taken the lead over the Reds.

2879
02:27:23,080 --> 02:27:25,200
Speaker 8: Mister Matt Olsen hit a three run homer, so the

2880
02:27:25,240 --> 02:27:27,080
Speaker 8: Braves are up seven to four against the Reds.

2881
02:27:27,200 --> 02:27:29,120
Speaker 7: Top of the eighth inning. The Phillies have scored, but

2882
02:27:29,160 --> 02:27:31,200
Speaker 7: the Mets are still on top six to five. Bottom

2883
02:27:31,240 --> 02:27:31,960
Speaker 7: of the eighth inning.

2884
02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:34,240
Speaker 8: Brewers and the Guardians were tied, and now we're in

2885
02:27:34,280 --> 02:27:37,200
Speaker 8: the bottom of the tenth inning in Cleveland.

2886
02:27:36,680 --> 02:27:38,360
Speaker 7: With the Brewers up five to four.

2887
02:27:38,480 --> 02:27:41,160
Speaker 8: The Guardians have a man on obviously, second base is

2888
02:27:41,160 --> 02:27:43,320
Speaker 8: how we start, and they just got going, so they

2889
02:27:43,320 --> 02:27:44,320
Speaker 8: have all their three outs.

2890
02:27:44,360 --> 02:27:46,400
Speaker 7: White Sox up on the Reds four to one. Bottom

2891
02:27:46,440 --> 02:27:47,000
Speaker 7: of the eighth.

2892
02:27:47,240 --> 02:27:49,960
Speaker 8: The Rockies are still beating the Angels, all right. They've

2893
02:27:49,959 --> 02:27:52,680
Speaker 8: scored six runs today, or excuse me, three runs. It

2894
02:27:52,760 --> 02:27:54,560
Speaker 8: is three to two, bottom of the sixth inning. That's

2895
02:27:54,560 --> 02:27:56,920
Speaker 8: where that six came from. Diving back, shedding out the

2896
02:27:56,959 --> 02:27:59,960
Speaker 8: San Francisco Giants two zero, top of the second inning,

2897
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:03,480
Speaker 8: Nationals beating the Padres one zero, bottom of the second.

2898
02:28:03,680 --> 02:28:06,240
Speaker 8: And how about this, Mark Stein reporting that the Grizzlies

2899
02:28:06,240 --> 02:28:10,720
Speaker 8: had strong interest in Draymond Green before trading for Marcus Smart,

2900
02:28:10,959 --> 02:28:13,280
Speaker 8: very similar players. I agree with you guys that Marcus

2901
02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:13,800
Speaker 8: Smart is going.

2902
02:28:13,800 --> 02:28:16,400
Speaker 7: To be a good role model for John Moran.

2903
02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:21,080
Speaker 2: Well, at the very least he's going to help that team. Yes,

2904
02:28:21,120 --> 02:28:23,920
Speaker 2: whether the Storm in the absence of John Moran over

2905
02:28:24,040 --> 02:28:27,280
Speaker 2: twenty five games, but no, I would want Marcus Smart

2906
02:28:27,280 --> 02:28:30,560
Speaker 2: on my team. I would want Draymond Green. And I'm

2907
02:28:30,560 --> 02:28:33,440
Speaker 2: glad you mentioned that, Moncie, and thank you of course.

2908
02:28:35,680 --> 02:28:38,280
Speaker 2: The idea that Draymond Green opted out of his deal,

2909
02:28:39,360 --> 02:28:41,480
Speaker 2: and I would imagine obviously wants to remain with the

2910
02:28:41,480 --> 02:28:46,640
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors. But they're in a nightmare cap situation

2911
02:28:46,800 --> 02:28:49,280
Speaker 2: right now. I mean, as you mentioned, Bob Myers made

2912
02:28:49,320 --> 02:28:52,480
Speaker 2: a quick exit when their payroll already is at two

2913
02:28:52,520 --> 02:28:56,080
Speaker 2: hundred million. Oh yeah, And now so they get rid

2914
02:28:56,120 --> 02:29:00,720
Speaker 2: of Jordan Poole's contract, fine, and Draymond opts out of

2915
02:29:00,760 --> 02:29:06,560
Speaker 2: his player option, is it conceivable the Warriors are like, Draymond,

2916
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:09,840
Speaker 2: thank you so much, and then all of a sudden

2917
02:29:09,879 --> 02:29:13,800
Speaker 2: you look at Draymond Green as actually available. I mean,

2918
02:29:13,920 --> 02:29:16,119
Speaker 2: how let's I want to use the Lakers as an

2919
02:29:16,120 --> 02:29:24,360
Speaker 2: example once again. So picture Draymond Green four rings, by

2920
02:29:24,400 --> 02:29:28,240
Speaker 2: the way, same as Lebron four rings. Yeah. Picture Draymond

2921
02:29:28,320 --> 02:29:32,279
Speaker 2: Green in a Lakers uniform for this upcoming season.

2922
02:29:32,040 --> 02:29:34,600
Speaker 3: And NBA champions, okay, NBA champs.

2923
02:29:34,640 --> 02:29:36,720
Speaker 2: In order to get them, though, you're gonna have to

2924
02:29:36,760 --> 02:29:41,080
Speaker 2: sacrifice something, So AD's obviously there, Lebron's there. You might

2925
02:29:41,120 --> 02:29:44,200
Speaker 2: have to choose. Maybe you can keep Reeves and have

2926
02:29:44,240 --> 02:29:47,600
Speaker 2: to say goodbye to Hatchamura, but would you do that

2927
02:29:47,879 --> 02:29:50,080
Speaker 2: with an opportunity? I'm with you. Yeah, I'm with you.

2928
02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:54,960
Speaker 3: Look I'm not I'm not thrilled with the like the

2929
02:29:55,240 --> 02:29:58,920
Speaker 3: question of, hey, you've got to throw away your future

2930
02:29:58,959 --> 02:30:01,880
Speaker 3: for a short term game. I hate the fact that

2931
02:30:02,160 --> 02:30:04,600
Speaker 3: limited time with Lebron right now, but that look, there's

2932
02:30:04,640 --> 02:30:08,080
Speaker 3: a loud clock ticking in the background and it's Lebron

2933
02:30:08,200 --> 02:30:11,720
Speaker 3: James career. Yeah, and he is LA right now. Whether

2934
02:30:11,760 --> 02:30:13,800
Speaker 3: you love him or hate him, whether you're a Kobe guy,

2935
02:30:13,800 --> 02:30:15,720
Speaker 3: and it'll never be Lebron.

2936
02:30:15,800 --> 02:30:17,960
Speaker 2: It's still not a Laker fan, so will never accept

2937
02:30:18,080 --> 02:30:18,600
Speaker 2: Lebron as.

2938
02:30:18,480 --> 02:30:20,640
Speaker 3: Well, or if you think of him as calv and

2939
02:30:20,760 --> 02:30:24,440
Speaker 3: he's just borrowing the Laker uniform to win championships during

2940
02:30:24,440 --> 02:30:27,560
Speaker 3: his waning moments as an NBA basketball player, you have

2941
02:30:27,600 --> 02:30:31,800
Speaker 3: to admit this is LA belongs to Lebron. So whether

2942
02:30:31,800 --> 02:30:34,480
Speaker 3: you like it or not, if you are a Lakers

2943
02:30:34,600 --> 02:30:38,680
Speaker 3: fan and you want another championship before his time is through,

2944
02:30:39,680 --> 02:30:42,879
Speaker 3: well then you better be interested in building around Lebron James.

2945
02:30:43,160 --> 02:30:47,000
Speaker 3: And that's the type of player who could immediately elevate.

2946
02:30:47,040 --> 02:30:50,000
Speaker 3: And again, your assuming health, which is a tough thing

2947
02:30:50,040 --> 02:30:53,520
Speaker 3: to assume with how fragile Anthony Davis has been over

2948
02:30:53,520 --> 02:30:57,039
Speaker 3: the course of his entire career, but also and especially

2949
02:30:57,080 --> 02:30:59,280
Speaker 3: since he's been a Laker and Lebron James as the

2950
02:30:59,360 --> 02:31:03,000
Speaker 3: ages Draymond Green, there's injury concerns too. But if they

2951
02:31:03,040 --> 02:31:05,800
Speaker 3: all stay healthy, and that's a big if, and they

2952
02:31:05,800 --> 02:31:08,000
Speaker 3: go on a run together, that's an NBA championships.

2953
02:31:08,160 --> 02:31:11,480
Speaker 2: I agree. Draymond Green checks so many boxs, so many boxes,

2954
02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean on the defense, and his defense is not

2955
02:31:14,280 --> 02:31:18,800
Speaker 2: let up. But just his influence in a game.

2956
02:31:18,640 --> 02:31:20,560
Speaker 3: It goes a step further to prove what I was

2957
02:31:20,600 --> 02:31:23,640
Speaker 3: talking about though, the fact that the Memphis Grizzlies were

2958
02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:27,240
Speaker 3: interested in a Draymond Green trade. Also the fact that

2959
02:31:27,240 --> 02:31:31,320
Speaker 3: Marcus Smart comes to their locker room to provide maturity,

2960
02:31:31,640 --> 02:31:35,840
Speaker 3: because yes, Draymond does he bring his own brand of leadership.

2961
02:31:35,920 --> 02:31:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2962
02:31:36,480 --> 02:31:39,000
Speaker 3: Can it be viewed as a little bit, you know,

2963
02:31:39,080 --> 02:31:42,520
Speaker 3: flying off the handle and a little explosive at times, Yeah,

2964
02:31:42,640 --> 02:31:45,800
Speaker 3: but he's a veteran who, like you said, has championship

2965
02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:49,199
Speaker 3: experience and that's the type of play.

2966
02:31:49,240 --> 02:31:52,800
Speaker 2: Sure him though in a series against the Nuggets, right, So,

2967
02:31:52,959 --> 02:31:58,240
Speaker 2: how does that change the Laker dynamic going against the Nuggets.

2968
02:31:58,280 --> 02:32:02,080
Speaker 3: He's an irritant, he's a harasser. Yeah, he's a guy

2969
02:32:02,120 --> 02:32:05,840
Speaker 3: who's going to make Jokic while as long as he's

2970
02:32:05,879 --> 02:32:09,279
Speaker 3: able to stay out of foul trouble himself as uncomfortable

2971
02:32:09,320 --> 02:32:12,120
Speaker 3: as possible. And by the way, if he does foul out,

2972
02:32:12,160 --> 02:32:14,000
Speaker 3: while it does change your defensive He.

2973
02:32:14,000 --> 02:32:15,959
Speaker 2: Can be matched up against Murray. Yeah, he can be

2974
02:32:16,000 --> 02:32:19,520
Speaker 2: matched up against Gordon Yea. His versatility in who he

2975
02:32:19,560 --> 02:32:22,879
Speaker 2: could be matched up against, and even obviously not one

2976
02:32:22,920 --> 02:32:25,560
Speaker 2: on one, but as a distraction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's rangy, and he's a and yeah he's got

2978
02:32:32,440 --> 02:32:35,160
Speaker 3: he's got a tremendous IQ for the game.

2979
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

2980
02:32:35,840 --> 02:32:39,760
Speaker 3: Look, I mean that's my point is everybody looks at

2981
02:32:40,120 --> 02:32:43,480
Speaker 3: a team like the Lakers, for example. It's a perfect

2982
02:32:43,520 --> 02:32:46,680
Speaker 3: example because he got swept by the Nuggets and they say, yeah,

2983
02:32:46,720 --> 02:32:50,040
Speaker 3: the Lakers, I mean, they got swept, so they can't

2984
02:32:50,040 --> 02:32:52,560
Speaker 3: figure it out against Nuggets. It's like, hey, hey, wait,

2985
02:32:53,080 --> 02:32:55,760
Speaker 3: not so fast. You gotta look at the games. You

2986
02:32:55,840 --> 02:32:59,760
Speaker 3: gotta look how competitive the Lakers were. And I argued

2987
02:32:59,760 --> 02:33:03,480
Speaker 3: it earlier, I'll argue it again. This Lakers team was

2988
02:33:03,520 --> 02:33:06,359
Speaker 3: about as competitive as any team that faced the Nuggets

2989
02:33:06,400 --> 02:33:09,760
Speaker 3: in the postseason. So are they a Draymond Away? Are

2990
02:33:09,760 --> 02:33:12,280
Speaker 3: they just a quality big away? They may be able

2991
02:33:12,320 --> 02:33:15,320
Speaker 3: to get away with just developing the roster. They have

2992
02:33:15,560 --> 02:33:18,160
Speaker 3: a little bit more to go toe to toe with

2993
02:33:18,200 --> 02:33:21,080
Speaker 3: the with the Nuggets. Sometimes you just need another year

2994
02:33:21,240 --> 02:33:25,920
Speaker 3: seasoning where Reeves, you're not just discovering that he's the guy.

2995
02:33:26,160 --> 02:33:28,119
Speaker 3: Now he's the guy. He might have to be paid

2996
02:33:28,200 --> 02:33:30,200
Speaker 3: like the guy, but now he's the guy. Hot you Moore,

2997
02:33:30,400 --> 02:33:32,600
Speaker 3: same thing, another year under your belt. This isn't a

2998
02:33:32,680 --> 02:33:35,640
Speaker 3: static thing. It's not like you say, well, they have Lebron, Reeves,

2999
02:33:35,680 --> 02:33:37,760
Speaker 3: achimor on Ad so they're gonna go into this s

3000
02:33:37,800 --> 02:33:41,320
Speaker 3: Nuggets team, same outcomes. No, because players get better. I

3001
02:33:41,520 --> 02:33:42,760
Speaker 3: just look at the Lakers.

3002
02:33:42,840 --> 02:33:46,160
Speaker 2: There are certain teams like the Wizards have obviously gutted

3003
02:33:46,160 --> 02:33:49,480
Speaker 2: their roster looking into the future. That's not the Lakers.

3004
02:33:49,800 --> 02:33:53,039
Speaker 2: The Lakers are a year to year right now. And

3005
02:33:53,120 --> 02:33:55,560
Speaker 2: as long as you got Lebron, James and Ady together,

3006
02:33:56,440 --> 02:33:59,200
Speaker 2: you need a piece to get them too. And then

3007
02:33:59,320 --> 02:34:02,400
Speaker 2: Lebron was very clear, as much as everyone was trying

3008
02:34:02,400 --> 02:34:05,800
Speaker 2: to really saying, hey, what a tremendous run for you guys, Yeah,

3009
02:34:05,840 --> 02:34:08,320
Speaker 2: He's like, I've been there, done that. There's only one

3010
02:34:08,360 --> 02:34:11,760
Speaker 2: thing I'm looking to do, and that's win a Championship.

3011
02:34:11,760 --> 02:34:13,880
Speaker 2: All right, we'll put a cap on this coming up.

3012
02:34:14,000 --> 02:34:17,760
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday. The pitch get high in

3013
02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:20,000
Speaker 2: the air on that slider that hung dal the left

3014
02:34:20,040 --> 02:34:22,560
Speaker 2: field line. It is heading down the line and being

3015
02:34:22,640 --> 02:34:28,360
Speaker 2: blown a fair ball. It's a home run. Oh my goodness,

3016
02:34:28,440 --> 02:34:29,480
Speaker 2: a grand Slam.

3017
02:34:31,040 --> 02:34:36,080
Speaker 3: That ball carried and carried and carried, and a Grand

3018
02:34:36,160 --> 02:34:40,560
Speaker 3: Slam home run for ty Evans has blown this game

3019
02:34:40,680 --> 02:34:42,080
Speaker 3: up and for Florida.

3020
02:34:43,680 --> 02:34:46,800
Speaker 2: That's serious XCM College Radio. Right there, that was a

3021
02:34:46,840 --> 02:34:50,680
Speaker 2: really bizarre call. I mean, normally a guy hits a

3022
02:34:50,720 --> 02:34:54,320
Speaker 2: Grand Slam, it's like a lot of flight, right yeah,

3023
02:34:54,480 --> 02:34:57,560
Speaker 2: he really that must have been a bizarre situation, like

3024
02:34:57,720 --> 02:35:01,840
Speaker 2: he was trying to clear like that. Paul just carried

3025
02:35:02,040 --> 02:35:05,920
Speaker 2: like yeah, it didn't come off the bat like that's

3026
02:35:05,959 --> 02:35:08,600
Speaker 2: going to be a home run, but somehow it ended up.

3027
02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:10,720
Speaker 2: That's going on at the College World Series right now.

3028
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. Hartman and Orenberger with you here live

3034
02:35:29,000 --> 02:35:31,280
Speaker 2: from the tire Rack dot Com studios. Want to thank

3035
02:35:31,280 --> 02:35:34,520
Speaker 2: our crew today. Iowa Sam, And by the way, Sam,

3036
02:35:34,560 --> 02:35:37,879
Speaker 2: my sister is going to be coming out next weekend

3037
02:35:38,120 --> 02:35:41,720
Speaker 2: from Iowa. Well you're gonna have me over, right, Well,

3038
02:35:41,920 --> 02:35:43,440
Speaker 2: you want to come by and get to him by

3039
02:35:43,480 --> 02:35:47,360
Speaker 2: And I mean she's actually she's far more Iowa than

3040
02:35:47,400 --> 02:35:50,160
Speaker 2: you are. Really, She's lived there for forty years and

3041
02:35:50,240 --> 02:35:52,400
Speaker 2: I lived there for twenty nine years when I've lived

3042
02:35:52,400 --> 02:35:54,600
Speaker 2: in LA for seven and a half years. So she

3043
02:35:54,680 --> 02:35:57,600
Speaker 2: is more Iowa than me. Sadly. Yeah, she actually moved

3044
02:35:57,640 --> 02:36:01,119
Speaker 2: there before you were born. Call her Iowa, Steve Hartman's sister.

3045
02:36:01,360 --> 02:36:03,840
Speaker 2: She's the valley girl to move to Iowa. But yeah,

3046
02:36:03,920 --> 02:36:04,520
Speaker 2: so I'd love.

3047
02:36:04,440 --> 02:36:06,520
Speaker 5: To come over and invade your home, all right, and

3048
02:36:06,640 --> 02:36:08,480
Speaker 5: you can do that and actually Rich is going to

3049
02:36:08,520 --> 02:36:08,760
Speaker 5: do that.

3050
02:36:08,959 --> 02:36:10,200
Speaker 2: Okayeah, we're all invited.

3051
02:36:10,360 --> 02:36:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all going. We're all you know what your

3052
02:36:13,240 --> 02:36:15,320
Speaker 3: house needs? More Monsey though.

3053
02:36:15,160 --> 02:36:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Monty obviously is an open invite.

3054
02:36:19,080 --> 02:36:22,520
Speaker 3: More to the This is what happened on that home run.

3055
02:36:22,720 --> 02:36:24,960
Speaker 3: Look how close to a foul ball? This way that

3056
02:36:25,080 --> 02:36:27,480
Speaker 3: is right down the line, right down the lines.

3057
02:36:27,600 --> 02:36:30,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean he was like, fo but did

3058
02:36:30,080 --> 02:36:31,960
Speaker 2: it look like he had hit it hard enough for

3059
02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:35,440
Speaker 2: a home run? Because he in his description you could

3060
02:36:35,480 --> 02:36:39,200
Speaker 2: just tell it just like there's a flyball, Like he

3061
02:36:39,280 --> 02:36:40,600
Speaker 2: was going to say, is that going to be found?

3062
02:36:40,600 --> 02:36:43,440
Speaker 3: And was like, all right, the true story of the

3063
02:36:43,480 --> 02:36:46,720
Speaker 3: baseball was straight up in the air, and so it

3064
02:36:46,800 --> 02:36:49,680
Speaker 3: had to travel the shortest path in this ballpark and

3065
02:36:49,720 --> 02:36:53,840
Speaker 3: it landed three feet beyond the fence. Now on that

3066
02:36:54,080 --> 02:36:57,640
Speaker 3: straight downward drops, I'm pretty sure the announcer thought that

3067
02:36:57,640 --> 02:36:58,920
Speaker 3: that was going to be a foul ball.

3068
02:37:00,040 --> 02:37:02,039
Speaker 2: And by the way, I'd be remissed by not mentioning

3069
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Speaker 2: our brilliant producer Bo Minson. Oh, I mean you talk

3070
02:37:05,120 --> 02:37:08,520
Speaker 2: about playing hurt. I wasn't sure both if we were

3071
02:37:08,520 --> 02:37:11,840
Speaker 2: going to see you today, I know yesterday was what?

3072
02:37:12,480 --> 02:37:14,119
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I had to be here today.

3073
02:37:14,280 --> 02:37:16,200
Speaker 3: I know that why And you're he's here so he

3074
02:37:16,240 --> 02:37:21,000
Speaker 3: doesn't get fined, yeah, exactly, be honest. Yes, But Marshaw

3075
02:37:21,040 --> 02:37:24,640
Speaker 3: and Lynch of this staff, we appreciate his candor there.

3076
02:37:24,640 --> 02:37:27,199
Speaker 2: It is very very good. All right, So we we've

3077
02:37:27,240 --> 02:37:30,840
Speaker 2: covered a lot of NBA today, NFL. This is there

3078
02:37:30,920 --> 02:37:34,280
Speaker 2: is a quiet time in the NFL sort of sort of.

3079
02:37:35,040 --> 02:37:38,800
Speaker 2: But here here's the best part about this little hiatus

3080
02:37:38,800 --> 02:37:41,080
Speaker 2: that we have between now and the started training camp,

3081
02:37:42,040 --> 02:37:44,080
Speaker 2: because you know, makes the heart grow fun. I mean,

3082
02:37:44,200 --> 02:37:47,600
Speaker 2: think about it when the NFL season. Once the season starts,

3083
02:37:47,640 --> 02:37:49,720
Speaker 2: obviously it's about week to week what's going on in

3084
02:37:49,760 --> 02:37:52,200
Speaker 2: all the games and everything else. And then as soon

3085
02:37:52,240 --> 02:37:55,640
Speaker 2: as the season is over, immediately are turning your attention

3086
02:37:55,800 --> 02:38:00,199
Speaker 2: to the draft and the combine and free agency and everything.

3087
02:38:00,879 --> 02:38:02,840
Speaker 2: Try to get your rosters got I mean, think about

3088
02:38:02,840 --> 02:38:05,800
Speaker 2: a rich We still have some pretty big names that

3089
02:38:05,840 --> 02:38:07,480
Speaker 2: are looking for jobs right now.

3090
02:38:07,959 --> 02:38:11,200
Speaker 3: Are Hopkins Both of those guys, let's face it.

3091
02:38:11,280 --> 02:38:13,360
Speaker 2: I mean, they would get signed if a team came

3092
02:38:13,480 --> 02:38:15,920
Speaker 2: up to the price tag they're looking for.

3093
02:38:16,040 --> 02:38:19,160
Speaker 3: And depending on where they land. If you want to

3094
02:38:19,200 --> 02:38:22,080
Speaker 3: be perfectly honest with the way the NFL is heading,

3095
02:38:22,400 --> 02:38:25,840
Speaker 3: you know it being such an offensive league. Healthy and

3096
02:38:25,879 --> 02:38:28,520
Speaker 3: again that's that's a big if. With DeAndre Hopkins who

3097
02:38:28,840 --> 02:38:32,119
Speaker 3: missed the two seasons ago with the suspension and then

3098
02:38:32,280 --> 02:38:36,760
Speaker 3: the recent injuries. If this guy's healthy, he's a game changer.

3099
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:37,920
Speaker 2: He's a game changer.

3100
02:38:38,120 --> 02:38:40,959
Speaker 3: I there's no doubt in my mind that there's tread

3101
02:38:41,040 --> 02:38:42,840
Speaker 3: left on the tires on the tires, and if he

3102
02:38:42,879 --> 02:38:45,160
Speaker 3: gets picked up by the right team, he could really

3103
02:38:45,200 --> 02:38:45,880
Speaker 3: help a team.

3104
02:38:45,920 --> 02:38:48,480
Speaker 2: But he's a wide receiver. Davin Cook missed no games

3105
02:38:48,560 --> 02:38:52,360
Speaker 2: last year. He played all seventeen games four straight Pro

3106
02:38:52,480 --> 02:38:55,920
Speaker 2: Bowls for the Vikings. I know what he wants to

3107
02:38:55,920 --> 02:38:59,360
Speaker 2: get paid, Yeah, and there doesn't seem to be any

3108
02:38:59,360 --> 02:39:00,920
Speaker 2: team willing to give him that cat well.

3109
02:39:00,800 --> 02:39:03,720
Speaker 3: And he's in no rush because the Vikings also still

3110
02:39:03,760 --> 02:39:06,960
Speaker 3: owe him two million dollars this upcoming season, so he

3111
02:39:07,000 --> 02:39:09,520
Speaker 3: can be a little bit choosy about you know what

3112
02:39:09,680 --> 02:39:13,279
Speaker 3: team he does eventually play for. And what's really interesting

3113
02:39:13,360 --> 02:39:16,080
Speaker 3: is the fact that he appeared on a recent podcast

3114
02:39:16,080 --> 02:39:17,720
Speaker 3: and was talking about how cool would it be if

3115
02:39:17,720 --> 02:39:20,080
Speaker 3: me and DeAndre Hopkins ended up on the same team,

3116
02:39:20,680 --> 02:39:24,279
Speaker 3: because again, either one can change the outcome of your season.

3117
02:39:24,360 --> 02:39:26,400
Speaker 2: You get both of them. Look out, you know a

3118
02:39:26,400 --> 02:39:28,199
Speaker 2: team that could use both of them? The New England

3119
02:39:28,200 --> 02:39:31,560
Speaker 2: Patriots possible? Well, you team, you need a team that

3120
02:39:31,640 --> 02:39:36,400
Speaker 2: needs some weapons to help out their young quarterback. How

3121
02:39:36,400 --> 02:39:39,800
Speaker 2: would they look in a Patriots uniform? Mister former Patriot.

3122
02:39:39,680 --> 02:39:41,920
Speaker 3: With Billy O'Brien at the helm with Billy.

3123
02:39:41,680 --> 02:39:45,600
Speaker 2: O'Brien as your offensive coordinator. That would be just some

3124
02:39:45,680 --> 02:39:47,840
Speaker 2: guy as your head coach. Yeah, keep it here on

3125
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio