1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perilla offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,759 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. 4 00:00:37,839 --> 00:00:39,638 Speaker 2: Joined by the newarch member of the Patriots Hall of Fame, 5 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: Mike Gravel. 6 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 7 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,398 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight and. 8 00:00:45,359 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: Please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian Hoyer. 9 00:00:48,319 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 2: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number 10 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. 11 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,719 Speaker 3: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. 12 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:58,519 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 13 00:01:00,239 --> 00:01:01,879 Speaker 4: Drake, how are we doing this week? What's going on doing? 14 00:01:01,879 --> 00:01:04,359 Speaker 4: Aren't how you feeling? How's how's the body as the head? 15 00:01:04,399 --> 00:01:05,078 Speaker 4: How's everything? Yeah? 16 00:01:05,119 --> 00:01:06,599 Speaker 5: Feel pretty good. You know, came out of the game 17 00:01:06,999 --> 00:01:08,519 Speaker 5: feeling alright. You know, I think that's the best thing. 18 00:01:08,719 --> 00:01:10,398 Speaker 5: I think we were overall pretty healthy as a team, 19 00:01:10,399 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 5: and oh we got good. I gotta find a way 20 00:01:12,598 --> 00:01:15,038 Speaker 5: to win, you know, we came up short and looking 21 00:01:15,079 --> 00:01:16,599 Speaker 5: forward to trying to get in those chance next week. 22 00:01:16,639 --> 00:01:19,078 Speaker 2: Can you add some clarity to how last week went? 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,999 Speaker 2: For you in terms of the protocol. I know you 24 00:01:21,039 --> 00:01:24,238 Speaker 2: made a comment postgame about maybe you stumbled in the 25 00:01:24,279 --> 00:01:27,519 Speaker 2: balance test with the turf and the cleats. Just can 26 00:01:27,559 --> 00:01:29,599 Speaker 2: you just chake us through whatever the hell happened last week? 27 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:32,078 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, uh, you know, this spotter got me 28 00:01:32,119 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 5: from up top and then from there, you know, it 29 00:01:34,919 --> 00:01:36,798 Speaker 5: was kind of going through the testing on the sideline. 30 00:01:37,999 --> 00:01:39,719 Speaker 5: They kind of do them. I wasn't good to go 31 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 5: back and uh, from there, was just trying to find 32 00:01:42,559 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 5: a way to get bit. I want to go back 33 00:01:43,679 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 5: out there, you know. Last Sunday, I'm just trying to 34 00:01:45,519 --> 00:01:47,839 Speaker 5: my my heartst get back out there this week. And 35 00:01:47,959 --> 00:01:50,038 Speaker 5: I got through the protocol to do some testing this week, 36 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 5: but just glad I got to get back out there 37 00:01:51,959 --> 00:01:52,719 Speaker 5: and compete with the guys. 38 00:01:52,799 --> 00:01:54,999 Speaker 4: Have you had concussions before, like in college or high 39 00:01:54,999 --> 00:01:55,599 Speaker 4: school or anything? 40 00:01:55,839 --> 00:01:57,359 Speaker 3: Uh not not reported? 41 00:01:57,519 --> 00:01:59,359 Speaker 4: So not that I okay, Well, I mean, you know, 42 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:00,679 Speaker 4: if you felt it a guy, I guess is the 43 00:02:00,679 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 4: point like, did you did you think you had one? 44 00:02:04,639 --> 00:02:05,999 Speaker 5: I think I definitely took a hit to the head. 45 00:02:06,039 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 5: You know, I'm not sure if you know the testing. 46 00:02:08,999 --> 00:02:10,999 Speaker 5: I think the what the NFL does is you know, 47 00:02:11,079 --> 00:02:13,839 Speaker 5: to pract us quarterbacks and obviously reasonably with what's happened 48 00:02:13,839 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 5: with some of the quarterbacks around the league and hit 49 00:02:15,279 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 5: the head, it's emphasis for them, So nothink it's up 50 00:02:19,119 --> 00:02:20,319 Speaker 5: to them. And I think they do a good job 51 00:02:20,358 --> 00:02:22,478 Speaker 5: protecting us. And and the protocol is a you know, 52 00:02:22,478 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 5: a great way for players to you really see, like 53 00:02:24,279 --> 00:02:25,638 Speaker 5: if they're ready to go back out there and play. 54 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,039 Speaker 3: And you know, you saw this past some day. I 55 00:02:26,959 --> 00:02:27,559 Speaker 3: was good to go. 56 00:02:27,759 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: Speaking of protecting quarterbacks, a lot of places teach sliding, 57 00:02:31,079 --> 00:02:33,678 Speaker 2: and you obviously got hit on a slide from behind 58 00:02:33,759 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: sort of late. We've seen guys get hit front back 59 00:02:36,439 --> 00:02:39,319 Speaker 2: side late slides. Have you did you change anything this week? 60 00:02:39,359 --> 00:02:42,478 Speaker 2: We didn't see any slides. Are you maybe evaluating it's 61 00:02:42,519 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: safer to go head first, safer to kind of go forward? 62 00:02:46,239 --> 00:02:48,039 Speaker 5: You know, I think, you know, I think the you know, 63 00:02:48,038 --> 00:02:50,559 Speaker 5: the organization and and uh swiftly the office society, the 64 00:02:50,599 --> 00:02:52,719 Speaker 5: coaches are do a good job of hey, you know, 65 00:02:52,799 --> 00:02:54,599 Speaker 5: harp it on, hey, and you know in certain situations, 66 00:02:54,599 --> 00:02:55,999 Speaker 5: you know when it's best to go head first, when 67 00:02:55,999 --> 00:02:58,719 Speaker 5: it's best to kind of slide. I think I I 68 00:02:58,799 --> 00:03:00,719 Speaker 5: slip once and made sure to go head first there. 69 00:03:00,719 --> 00:03:03,439 Speaker 5: But I'm just trying to protect my body and protect 70 00:03:03,439 --> 00:03:05,319 Speaker 5: the you know, my you know, b being out there 71 00:03:05,319 --> 00:03:07,358 Speaker 5: for the team, and you know, the coaches do a 72 00:03:07,399 --> 00:03:09,159 Speaker 5: knfe job of emphasizing it and they know that, you know, 73 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:11,358 Speaker 5: it's a big deal. So, uh, you're not really worried. 74 00:03:11,359 --> 00:03:13,319 Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep playing the same way as you know, 75 00:03:13,399 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 5: as I You're roll off there every Sunday. I'm not 76 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 5: gonna change the player that I am. And I think 77 00:03:17,839 --> 00:03:19,279 Speaker 5: when you're one on one with the safety on that 78 00:03:19,319 --> 00:03:22,198 Speaker 5: first run and you kind of get a you're known, 79 00:03:22,359 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 5: you know where the HiT's coming from, it's a little different. 80 00:03:24,279 --> 00:03:27,198 Speaker 5: So I'm in different scenarios and it's it's really hard 81 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 5: to play, you know, kind of play them all out. 82 00:03:28,999 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 5: So put a second decision for me and when it's 83 00:03:31,399 --> 00:03:32,758 Speaker 5: third down or you know, you got to have it 84 00:03:32,839 --> 00:03:34,959 Speaker 5: with that last drive him, You'll get what I can. 85 00:03:35,039 --> 00:03:37,159 Speaker 5: And I'm using you know, a big six or five dude. 86 00:03:37,239 --> 00:03:40,319 Speaker 4: So, uh, before we get onto any more football questions, 87 00:03:40,359 --> 00:03:41,439 Speaker 4: what do you think of the new set? What do 88 00:03:41,439 --> 00:03:42,959 Speaker 4: you think of the chairs here instead of the desk? 89 00:03:42,999 --> 00:03:44,399 Speaker 4: Have you did you even notice it was different? 90 00:03:44,639 --> 00:03:44,799 Speaker 5: Uh? 91 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:46,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did. I kind of like those set up 92 00:03:46,439 --> 00:03:47,039 Speaker 3: a little better like. 93 00:03:47,519 --> 00:03:48,999 Speaker 4: This has been a lot more like pert you know, 94 00:03:49,079 --> 00:03:50,239 Speaker 4: like we're all right at the top of each other. 95 00:03:50,279 --> 00:03:53,319 Speaker 4: Feel like we should have a beer though, or looking 96 00:03:53,399 --> 00:03:56,519 Speaker 4: like a club or something, little bottles. 97 00:03:57,039 --> 00:03:58,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a little tight, I I asked. I 98 00:03:58,999 --> 00:04:00,359 Speaker 2: was like, how's he going to get in if he 99 00:04:00,439 --> 00:04:02,319 Speaker 2: trips and gets hurt in here? I'm not taking the play. 100 00:04:02,679 --> 00:04:04,359 Speaker 4: Oh, we definitely take the plane for that from one 101 00:04:04,399 --> 00:04:06,279 Speaker 4: hundred percent, you know that we would, all right. So 102 00:04:06,399 --> 00:04:09,479 Speaker 4: with that out of the way, you're in the protocol. 103 00:04:09,559 --> 00:04:11,879 Speaker 4: During the week, you're limited in practice where you would 104 00:04:11,879 --> 00:04:14,919 Speaker 4: all concern that not being able to complete all the 105 00:04:14,919 --> 00:04:17,318 Speaker 4: practices and get all the reps this week in practice 106 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:20,199 Speaker 4: might reveal itself somehow during the game. 107 00:04:21,119 --> 00:04:22,639 Speaker 5: No, I don't think so, you know, I think you're 108 00:04:22,678 --> 00:04:26,118 Speaker 5: you're behind there watching practice. You know, first Wednesday, I'm 109 00:04:26,159 --> 00:04:28,558 Speaker 5: got thirty minutes and you use those thirty minutes wisely, 110 00:04:28,678 --> 00:04:31,119 Speaker 5: you know, and reps were you know, you know, I'm 111 00:04:31,119 --> 00:04:32,879 Speaker 5: not getting touched anyway as a quarterback, So the little 112 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 5: easier for quarterbacks to go through the protocol. I'm not 113 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,118 Speaker 5: getting touching a red jersey out there regardless, So everybly 114 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:40,399 Speaker 5: wasn't really worried. I feel like I had a you know, good, 115 00:04:40,558 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 5: good two days of practice Thursday and Friday out there 116 00:04:42,719 --> 00:04:44,678 Speaker 5: with the guys, and then you'll felt good going into 117 00:04:44,719 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 5: the game. 118 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,399 Speaker 2: Okay, so we've we've sort of buried the lead here. 119 00:04:47,438 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 2: You had to play yesterday. That was kind of the 120 00:04:48,799 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 2: talk of the football world. Eleven point eight two seconds 121 00:04:52,198 --> 00:04:54,399 Speaker 2: on that throw that ended up being the touchdown to 122 00:04:54,479 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: Rmandre Stevenson. Take us through what is going through your 123 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,678 Speaker 2: mind when you are moving left right forward up, It 124 00:05:00,719 --> 00:05:03,639 Speaker 2: was that's a long time before you throw a football 125 00:05:03,678 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 2: in the red zone. 126 00:05:04,239 --> 00:05:06,358 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I missed hunter probably in the first 127 00:05:06,519 --> 00:05:08,038 Speaker 5: you know, second or two in the back, you know, 128 00:05:08,078 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 5: beck in zone on the on the in line, So 129 00:05:10,599 --> 00:05:12,158 Speaker 5: probably could have had that play over, you know, a 130 00:05:12,159 --> 00:05:12,678 Speaker 5: lot faster. 131 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 3: That wouldn't have been cool though, But. 132 00:05:14,119 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, they dropped you know, dropped cover two down there, 133 00:05:16,159 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 5: and they dropped the popper out too, so they really 134 00:05:18,119 --> 00:05:20,999 Speaker 5: dropped dropped, dropped eight and rushed three. So just trying 135 00:05:20,999 --> 00:05:22,399 Speaker 5: to you'll find a way to keep the player alive, 136 00:05:22,438 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 5: you know. Once I miss hunting in the back and 137 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:25,959 Speaker 5: then hunting up stepping out of bound so it was 138 00:05:25,999 --> 00:05:28,318 Speaker 5: good for him, you know, you know, the point waved 139 00:05:28,318 --> 00:05:30,759 Speaker 5: to me, not to those who we won that at 140 00:05:30,759 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 5: one point, So just trying to stay alive. I think 141 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 5: Madre did a nice job of playing like a receiver 142 00:05:34,438 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 5: and credit those guys you know up front for continue 143 00:05:37,318 --> 00:05:39,118 Speaker 5: to fight through the play and those guys you know, 144 00:05:39,239 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 5: receivers and running backs just trying to find a way 145 00:05:41,159 --> 00:05:42,079 Speaker 5: to make a play. 146 00:05:42,159 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: The longer it goes, are you reaching oh crap status 147 00:05:45,359 --> 00:05:47,398 Speaker 2: or do you feel like, well, they're gonna let somebody 148 00:05:47,399 --> 00:05:48,198 Speaker 2: open up sooner or a lot? 149 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's more of a hey, somebody's gonna 150 00:05:49,958 --> 00:05:51,319 Speaker 5: pop up in here soon, you know. I think you 151 00:05:51,359 --> 00:05:54,199 Speaker 5: just got to evade some some defenders sometimes and Andre 152 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:54,879 Speaker 5: made nice play. 153 00:05:55,159 --> 00:05:57,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a tremendous play. I mean it's really 154 00:05:57,799 --> 00:05:59,438 Speaker 4: gonna be one of those ones that people talk about 155 00:05:59,479 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 4: all year. I know it was a play that happened 156 00:06:01,879 --> 00:06:04,238 Speaker 4: in a loss. But in terms of your you know, 157 00:06:04,318 --> 00:06:05,999 Speaker 4: three starts that you made so far, does that one 158 00:06:06,078 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 4: kind of stand out is that? I mean that was 159 00:06:07,719 --> 00:06:09,638 Speaker 4: a big moment. Zero's on the clock like that. That 160 00:06:09,678 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 4: had to feel good. 161 00:06:10,759 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think, you know, sitting at the 162 00:06:12,558 --> 00:06:15,238 Speaker 5: overtime and you're getting those guys down there for you know, 163 00:06:15,239 --> 00:06:16,879 Speaker 5: a big drive to you know, because send the game 164 00:06:16,958 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 5: was was huge. But obviously at the end of the day, 165 00:06:18,239 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 5: we didn't win the football game. And that's the that's 166 00:06:20,198 --> 00:06:22,079 Speaker 5: a disappointing factor. Did you want to go for two? 167 00:06:22,078 --> 00:06:22,238 Speaker 3: There? 168 00:06:22,239 --> 00:06:23,278 Speaker 4: Were you ready to go for two? 169 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: There? 170 00:06:24,359 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 5: I was just trying to catch my breath. I think 171 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:27,518 Speaker 5: it was. It was a tough, so must emotion and 172 00:06:28,558 --> 00:06:30,718 Speaker 5: you know, so much energy that we brought in that drive, 173 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:32,519 Speaker 5: and you know, I think we only started the fifty 174 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:34,999 Speaker 5: was like eleven or twelve plays, so I was just, 175 00:06:35,159 --> 00:06:37,439 Speaker 5: you know, so tired and exhausted from just I think 176 00:06:37,479 --> 00:06:40,118 Speaker 5: around to the sideline right after that. So I think 177 00:06:40,119 --> 00:06:42,439 Speaker 5: it's it's in hindsight, it's easy to look back and say, 178 00:06:42,799 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 5: you know, after a loss, but uh, I think we 179 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 5: made the right. 180 00:06:45,119 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 4: Was there debate? Was there guys on the sideline saying, 181 00:06:46,719 --> 00:06:48,158 Speaker 4: come on, let's go for two, let's do let's do it, 182 00:06:48,198 --> 00:06:49,439 Speaker 4: and Mayo shut it down or what? 183 00:06:49,879 --> 00:06:52,079 Speaker 5: I don't remember. I don't remember anything like that. I 184 00:06:52,078 --> 00:06:55,399 Speaker 5: think I think in that scenario, I think he played 185 00:06:55,399 --> 00:06:57,319 Speaker 5: for overtime, our defense be on the sideline you know, 186 00:06:57,479 --> 00:07:00,119 Speaker 5: so you know the wayever the coaches decided. I think 187 00:07:00,599 --> 00:07:02,238 Speaker 5: I'm looking back, I think I know I did the 188 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,518 Speaker 5: same thing, So I think it's a it's a hindsight 189 00:07:04,558 --> 00:07:06,398 Speaker 5: either way you look at it. If we go forward, 190 00:07:06,438 --> 00:07:07,959 Speaker 5: we don't win and everybody's like, what are we doing? 191 00:07:08,039 --> 00:07:11,199 Speaker 5: So I think I was so exhausted just getting to 192 00:07:11,239 --> 00:07:13,519 Speaker 5: the sideline trying to get my catch my breath. 193 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:15,518 Speaker 2: On the play that ended the game. I think you 194 00:07:15,559 --> 00:07:17,999 Speaker 2: called it a dumb decision last night in your post 195 00:07:18,039 --> 00:07:20,959 Speaker 2: game press conference. A couple of questions there on specifics 196 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:24,879 Speaker 2: did Kendrick Bourne falling down affect that? Do you think 197 00:07:24,919 --> 00:07:28,199 Speaker 2: that safety was able to leave him and maybe create 198 00:07:28,239 --> 00:07:30,639 Speaker 2: a problem you didn't see? And how much did win 199 00:07:31,039 --> 00:07:32,799 Speaker 2: play a factor? And maybe it being underthrown. 200 00:07:32,999 --> 00:07:35,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think KB you know, maybe you know, it's 201 00:07:35,919 --> 00:07:38,359 Speaker 5: hard to kind of predict that maybe it could have 202 00:07:38,359 --> 00:07:40,799 Speaker 5: held the safety a little more, but you know, I 203 00:07:40,799 --> 00:07:42,959 Speaker 5: think I still I think, you know, my win, to 204 00:07:42,999 --> 00:07:44,719 Speaker 5: answer what I said last night was kind of off 205 00:07:44,719 --> 00:07:47,399 Speaker 5: of reaction. I don't think you'll win with a quarterback 206 00:07:47,439 --> 00:07:49,518 Speaker 5: and I don't think he plays that big a factor, 207 00:07:49,559 --> 00:07:51,278 Speaker 5: So really I think it just under through it. I 208 00:07:51,279 --> 00:07:52,999 Speaker 5: got to put it out there more for Booty and 209 00:07:53,559 --> 00:07:55,559 Speaker 5: let him go make a play. So really, I think 210 00:07:55,599 --> 00:07:58,518 Speaker 5: this is my my decision making. And uh maybe sometimes 211 00:07:58,519 --> 00:08:00,199 Speaker 5: you may throw it away, throw it away there or 212 00:08:00,999 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 5: or if not, you know, from our opposite Forty may 213 00:08:03,599 --> 00:08:05,278 Speaker 5: try to throw in the end zone and have a 214 00:08:05,399 --> 00:08:07,598 Speaker 5: you know, Booty maybe try to catch over the shoulder. 215 00:08:07,679 --> 00:08:09,599 Speaker 5: I think, uh, you know, I don't think that would 216 00:08:09,639 --> 00:08:10,799 Speaker 5: end up being that big a deal. I think it 217 00:08:10,839 --> 00:08:12,919 Speaker 5: was more just a my reaction off the game to 218 00:08:12,919 --> 00:08:13,839 Speaker 5: make myself feel better. 219 00:08:14,958 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 4: Well whatever. The honesty, yeah, sure, I mean that is 220 00:08:17,319 --> 00:08:20,719 Speaker 4: that's definitely honest. The play call there obviously to go 221 00:08:20,839 --> 00:08:23,199 Speaker 4: take a take a deep shot down field. You still 222 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:26,039 Speaker 4: had some time left. It was first down. Any second 223 00:08:26,039 --> 00:08:28,718 Speaker 4: thoughts on that after and after seeing how it ended. 224 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:30,078 Speaker 5: Well, I like taking a shot. I think, like take 225 00:08:30,199 --> 00:08:31,799 Speaker 5: try to go for it, you know, you know, steal 226 00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:32,919 Speaker 5: the game. And I think I had him, you know, 227 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:35,238 Speaker 5: I shot, I had them, and you know whether or 228 00:08:35,279 --> 00:08:37,759 Speaker 5: not you know, KB stayed up or or not affects 229 00:08:37,759 --> 00:08:39,598 Speaker 5: that safety. You know, I still had eyes on them 230 00:08:39,599 --> 00:08:41,879 Speaker 5: and Solomon and I think once he fail he made 231 00:08:41,879 --> 00:08:44,078 Speaker 5: a drift towards the middle of the field more. But at 232 00:08:44,119 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 5: the same time, I think I had a chance at 233 00:08:45,599 --> 00:08:47,479 Speaker 5: booty and I got to step into it more. 234 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 2: We always talk about a young quarterback like every rep 235 00:08:50,479 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 2: matter is experience learning. But are you legitimately learning from 236 00:08:54,958 --> 00:08:57,279 Speaker 2: the interception that was a little late over the middle 237 00:08:57,319 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 2: under pressure or the fumble, Like do you feel like 238 00:08:59,639 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: your banking experiences of what not to do when the 239 00:09:03,359 --> 00:09:04,919 Speaker 2: stove is hot and how not to touch it again? 240 00:09:04,999 --> 00:09:07,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the store and those mistakes and and 241 00:09:07,319 --> 00:09:09,879 Speaker 5: learn from them and hopefully not be repeat you know, repeat, 242 00:09:09,959 --> 00:09:11,958 Speaker 5: you know, offender of these mistakes. I think that's the 243 00:09:11,999 --> 00:09:14,399 Speaker 5: biggest thing in Coach Mayo preaches it's not you know, 244 00:09:14,439 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 5: being a repeat mistake guy. And that's what I'm trying 245 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,479 Speaker 5: to do back there in these these games and these 246 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 5: players that turned on to be huge for the outcome 247 00:09:20,599 --> 00:09:23,519 Speaker 5: of the game. Like you said, I think multiple times 248 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:25,359 Speaker 5: at first drive, taking a sack and kids had a 249 00:09:25,359 --> 00:09:27,519 Speaker 5: full go range or making the field go farther for 250 00:09:27,599 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 5: Joey makes it tough. Interception on third down, we got 251 00:09:30,999 --> 00:09:33,919 Speaker 5: a chance to them inside the ten and maybe flip 252 00:09:33,999 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 5: the field and you know when we get the ball back. 253 00:09:35,599 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 5: So little things like that that go a long way 254 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,159 Speaker 5: into impacting the game. I think you're learning in that 255 00:09:40,239 --> 00:09:42,039 Speaker 5: and and realizing, hey, you know and I every play 256 00:09:42,119 --> 00:09:43,359 Speaker 5: needs to be a you know, home run. 257 00:09:43,719 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 3: A fine line? Sorry, is there a fine line there though? 258 00:09:47,239 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 2: Staying aggressive and not being a you know, not throwing 259 00:09:50,479 --> 00:09:52,479 Speaker 2: everything away unless the guy's wide open, you know what 260 00:09:52,479 --> 00:09:52,759 Speaker 2: I mean? 261 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:54,919 Speaker 5: Like still being a three maker. I think you're definitely is. 262 00:09:54,959 --> 00:09:57,119 Speaker 5: I think that that side of me I'm not gonna lose. Ever, 263 00:09:57,239 --> 00:09:59,119 Speaker 5: I think that's hard, you know, take away the play 264 00:09:59,119 --> 00:10:01,239 Speaker 5: maker and the aggressiveness of me. So just being smarter 265 00:10:01,359 --> 00:10:03,359 Speaker 5: with h when not to be. I think that's the 266 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:03,879 Speaker 5: biggest thing. 267 00:10:04,079 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 4: We've asked you questions about feeling like a leader. You 268 00:10:06,319 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 4: said that you do, and that the quarterback kind of 269 00:10:07,959 --> 00:10:10,078 Speaker 4: has to After that throw at the end, after the 270 00:10:10,119 --> 00:10:11,639 Speaker 4: game was over, it seemed like a lot of guys 271 00:10:11,639 --> 00:10:13,399 Speaker 4: are coming up to you and and talking to you, 272 00:10:13,479 --> 00:10:15,119 Speaker 4: trying to pick you up like that. And then after 273 00:10:15,159 --> 00:10:17,119 Speaker 4: the game a lot of your teammates had a lot 274 00:10:17,119 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 4: of nice things to say about you. Do you feel 275 00:10:18,719 --> 00:10:20,919 Speaker 4: as though you're becoming more of a leader in the 276 00:10:20,999 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 4: locker room and that it's starting to become sort of 277 00:10:23,799 --> 00:10:25,639 Speaker 4: a thing in that in that room, in that space. 278 00:10:25,759 --> 00:10:26,239 Speaker 3: Is that more? 279 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 4: Is that developing more as the season goes on. 280 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate those guys, you know, for uh coming 281 00:10:31,839 --> 00:10:34,159 Speaker 5: over and saying things to me and you know, tell 282 00:10:34,199 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 5: me to keep my head up. You know, that goes 283 00:10:35,319 --> 00:10:37,479 Speaker 5: a long way, especially at the quarterback and a decision 284 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:39,759 Speaker 5: like that at a time and that that point in 285 00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:42,039 Speaker 5: the game where we're into the game, it was tough. 286 00:10:42,199 --> 00:10:44,639 Speaker 5: I think, uh, you know, just more, Uh, I'm gonna 287 00:10:44,639 --> 00:10:47,159 Speaker 5: be harder and you know myself than probably anbody's gonna 288 00:10:47,199 --> 00:10:49,239 Speaker 5: be harder on me. So that's the the mindset I 289 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:51,519 Speaker 5: try to keep. And you know, I think I think 290 00:10:51,519 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 5: there's a no step I can take in leadership wise, 291 00:10:53,439 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 5: and I gotta go, you know what, go make some 292 00:10:57,319 --> 00:10:59,999 Speaker 5: make some plays and kind of be smart with the football. 293 00:11:00,039 --> 00:11:01,279 Speaker 5: I think that will go a long way and kind 294 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 5: of earn the guys trust and respect. But I think 295 00:11:03,319 --> 00:11:05,039 Speaker 5: I got respect in that locker room those guys, and 296 00:11:05,479 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 5: uh kind of earn it throughout the throughout the year 297 00:11:07,359 --> 00:11:09,999 Speaker 5: and kind of can make the next step and being 298 00:11:10,039 --> 00:11:12,399 Speaker 5: some vocal and do a little things with teammates to 299 00:11:12,719 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 5: uh kind of be that that quarterback leader that everybody wants. 300 00:11:15,799 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 2: You almost got to one hundred yards yesterday, I believe 301 00:11:17,839 --> 00:11:20,279 Speaker 2: all on scrambles. I think a VPS talked a little bit, 302 00:11:20,359 --> 00:11:22,519 Speaker 2: not a ton of designed runs yet. Would you like 303 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:26,479 Speaker 2: to see some more designed runs incorporated into the offense 304 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:29,279 Speaker 2: to utilize your skill set? 305 00:11:29,599 --> 00:11:31,799 Speaker 5: No, I think I think kind of just dropping back 306 00:11:31,799 --> 00:11:33,999 Speaker 5: there and and hey, they're not you know, taking advantage 307 00:11:33,999 --> 00:11:35,958 Speaker 5: of the rush lanes and little things like that. I 308 00:11:35,999 --> 00:11:37,919 Speaker 5: think I find enough ways to kind of make plays 309 00:11:37,919 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 5: with my feet and try to extend plays and you 310 00:11:40,239 --> 00:11:41,879 Speaker 5: know hit pop on on a on a cross for 311 00:11:41,999 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 5: laid over the middle to extending plays. So I think, 312 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:45,599 Speaker 5: you know, plays like that. I think we've have enough 313 00:11:45,599 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 5: of that in our offense. You know, I think running 314 00:11:47,599 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 5: the football would be you know, tough on my body 315 00:11:49,879 --> 00:11:53,159 Speaker 5: and taking taking some hits, extra hits that may not need. 316 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:54,799 Speaker 5: We got a you know, a big time back like 317 00:11:54,879 --> 00:11:57,239 Speaker 5: Mandre and those guys, a g and hasety when you 318 00:11:57,279 --> 00:12:00,399 Speaker 5: got back like those guys, especially Manre, I think you 319 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:02,039 Speaker 5: want to give him the ball and let him run 320 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 5: rather than me. 321 00:12:02,879 --> 00:12:04,958 Speaker 4: All Right, we got the Chicago Bears this week, and 322 00:12:05,039 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 4: you guys are heading out to Chicago on Thursday Friday. 323 00:12:07,999 --> 00:12:09,958 Speaker 4: It's the first time you've gone up against one of 324 00:12:09,999 --> 00:12:11,399 Speaker 4: these other rookie quarterbacks. 325 00:12:11,599 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 3: Uh. 326 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 4: With Caleb over there, does that little extra there is 327 00:12:14,239 --> 00:12:16,239 Speaker 4: that something you want to maybe ball out a little 328 00:12:16,239 --> 00:12:17,799 Speaker 4: bit harder you're going up against another rookie. 329 00:12:17,959 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, anytime you go we get somebody you know in 330 00:12:19,719 --> 00:12:21,799 Speaker 5: your class, you know, especially another rookie. I think you 331 00:12:21,799 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 5: want to come up with the winning side. So definitely, 332 00:12:24,359 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 5: you know, any week is you know, this is the 333 00:12:25,639 --> 00:12:27,999 Speaker 5: most important week of the year because it's this week 334 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 5: and that's what coach Mayo, he stayed and the team meeting, 335 00:12:31,359 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 5: what he and what he's preaching. So that's the big 336 00:12:34,159 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 5: that's the biggest thing, you know. I think the rookie 337 00:12:35,719 --> 00:12:38,159 Speaker 5: rookie matchup is it's cool. It's cool for the league. 338 00:12:38,159 --> 00:12:39,519 Speaker 5: It's cool for me and Caleb. You know, we grew 339 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,519 Speaker 5: up and going to camps and seeing each other in 340 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,479 Speaker 5: high school and then in college and then now, so 341 00:12:43,839 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 5: almost pretty cool dynamic. But I think the biggest thing 342 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:47,759 Speaker 5: is coming out with the win. Speaking of cool, I 343 00:12:47,959 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 5: read something online. I'm assuming it's true that Simmons. 344 00:12:50,279 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: Their big d tackle, said he sought you out and 345 00:12:52,479 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 2: maybe said something to you after the game. That's gonna 346 00:12:54,719 --> 00:12:56,519 Speaker 2: make you feel good when a guy who's trying to 347 00:12:56,599 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 2: kill you all game comes over and shows you a 348 00:12:58,199 --> 00:13:00,119 Speaker 2: little respect, especially a guy like that who's a captain, 349 00:13:00,199 --> 00:13:01,239 Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl. 350 00:13:01,039 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 5: Talent, been in the league for a long time. Yeah, 351 00:13:02,959 --> 00:13:05,039 Speaker 5: it's pretty neat, you know. I think you know, big 352 00:13:05,039 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 5: Big Simmons, Big Jeff is a problem, the problem in there. 353 00:13:07,359 --> 00:13:09,759 Speaker 5: Problem in side is a great player and almost pretty 354 00:13:09,759 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 5: cool seeing these guys you know around the league when 355 00:13:12,159 --> 00:13:14,119 Speaker 5: Schreusen in high school and college, me like, man, that 356 00:13:14,159 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 5: guy's a good player. Man, just watching them on TV 357 00:13:16,319 --> 00:13:18,639 Speaker 5: and and now seeing those guys and playing against them. 358 00:13:18,719 --> 00:13:20,879 Speaker 5: So I think it's pretty cool, you know, different throughout 359 00:13:20,879 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 5: the weeks and seeing guys you know in the Texans, 360 00:13:23,239 --> 00:13:26,239 Speaker 5: you know, Daniel Hunter and and Willie Anderson and guys 361 00:13:26,279 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 5: like that that you're getting to play now and was 362 00:13:28,199 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 5: playing against Rogers last week. So I think, you know, 363 00:13:30,599 --> 00:13:32,999 Speaker 5: just the NFL is a great place for kids who 364 00:13:32,999 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 5: grew up as a fan like me to go and 365 00:13:35,719 --> 00:13:36,479 Speaker 5: not be competitors. 366 00:13:36,479 --> 00:13:37,999 Speaker 2: Do you think that'll ever wear off? Like do you 367 00:13:38,039 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 2: feel like, oh, yeah, that guy is just a coworker. 368 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,999 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers just a co worker. Yeah, don't that everwear off? 369 00:13:43,079 --> 00:13:45,039 Speaker 5: You know as a football fan that that grew up 370 00:13:45,599 --> 00:13:47,919 Speaker 5: and how much I loved, you know, watching these guys 371 00:13:47,959 --> 00:13:50,519 Speaker 5: play and having them my fantasy team growing up. I 372 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,999 Speaker 5: don't think that I ever wear off, all. 373 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:53,799 Speaker 4: Right, Quarterback Question of the Week brought to you by 374 00:13:53,799 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 4: Northeast Men's Health Experts and Treating Men's Sexual Health with 375 00:13:56,839 --> 00:13:59,359 Speaker 4: five new New England offices, or at Northeast Men's Health 376 00:13:59,399 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 4: dot Com. This comes to us from Dimitri and Cambridge, 377 00:14:01,959 --> 00:14:04,519 Speaker 4: who asks you were in Tennessee this past weekend going 378 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,239 Speaker 4: to Chicago. What cities have been the best to visit 379 00:14:07,359 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 4: so far as an NFL player and which ones are 380 00:14:09,479 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 4: you looking forward to visiting. 381 00:14:10,519 --> 00:14:12,879 Speaker 5: M That's a good question, you know, I think you know, 382 00:14:12,959 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 5: Nashville is pretty sweet. I'm a I grew up in 383 00:14:15,199 --> 00:14:18,159 Speaker 5: the South, you know, country music fan and and barbecue fans, 384 00:14:18,199 --> 00:14:20,079 Speaker 5: so it was nice being in Nashville. 385 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:21,759 Speaker 3: London was pretty cool. Was different. 386 00:14:22,199 --> 00:14:23,639 Speaker 5: It's kind of different when you got to go there 387 00:14:23,639 --> 00:14:26,279 Speaker 5: for a business trip. I thought same frame was was 388 00:14:26,319 --> 00:14:28,519 Speaker 5: cool because the weather is such a great weather out there. 389 00:14:28,959 --> 00:14:30,839 Speaker 5: But you're looking forward to get in Chicago. I think 390 00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:32,959 Speaker 5: I've been in Chicago one other time. I think my 391 00:14:32,999 --> 00:14:35,679 Speaker 5: brother Luke played up there one time to in college. 392 00:14:35,719 --> 00:14:38,319 Speaker 5: So looking forward, I probably say in Nashville it's probably 393 00:14:38,319 --> 00:14:39,479 Speaker 5: been my favorite grow up in the South. 394 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:42,119 Speaker 2: What about college, What was your favorite road game to 395 00:14:42,159 --> 00:14:44,919 Speaker 2: play and what was your least favorite for whatever reason. 396 00:14:46,679 --> 00:14:48,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, I never came up here to b C. I 397 00:14:49,239 --> 00:14:51,479 Speaker 5: play them this year up here, so maybe by one year. 398 00:14:52,479 --> 00:14:55,079 Speaker 5: Going to Tallahassee in floor state was pretty cool, you know, 399 00:14:55,119 --> 00:14:57,479 Speaker 5: Death Valley and Clemson was was a good We had 400 00:14:57,479 --> 00:14:59,159 Speaker 5: a night game and that was pretty sweet. And then 401 00:14:59,439 --> 00:15:01,839 Speaker 5: my first college game ever, my true freshman year, was 402 00:15:01,879 --> 00:15:04,479 Speaker 5: when Sam how was playing, played at Virginia Tech. So 403 00:15:04,519 --> 00:15:06,279 Speaker 5: it's kind of that that's that. I think we were 404 00:15:06,319 --> 00:15:08,719 Speaker 5: seventh in the country, so that was a big time game. 405 00:15:09,119 --> 00:15:12,559 Speaker 5: But my least favorite, I wouldn't say, at least I 406 00:15:12,559 --> 00:15:13,559 Speaker 5: think it's all pretty cool. 407 00:15:13,559 --> 00:15:16,719 Speaker 2: It was Tech intimidating because that's Metallica right off the 408 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:19,999 Speaker 2: NIV and yeah, place against Rock that must have been 409 00:15:19,999 --> 00:15:20,919 Speaker 2: a little intimidating. 410 00:15:21,159 --> 00:15:21,439 Speaker 3: Sam. 411 00:15:21,439 --> 00:15:24,119 Speaker 5: You go out there kind of what it's called the 412 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:27,479 Speaker 5: sand h sand Man Man, so enter sand Man or whatever. 413 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:29,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well there it is. Drake May thank 414 00:15:29,559 --> 00:15:31,719 Speaker 4: you so much for the time today. Good luck in Chicago, 415 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:32,679 Speaker 4: and we'll talk to you next Monday. 416 00:15:32,759 --> 00:15:33,599 Speaker 3: Sweet think all right. 417 00:15:33,679 --> 00:15:36,519 Speaker 1: Patriots Playbook join John Brook as he brings you all 418 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:39,919 Speaker 1: the latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 419 00:15:40,599 --> 00:15:42,959 Speaker 1: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent Beat 420 00:15:42,959 --> 00:15:45,039 Speaker 1: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 421 00:15:45,079 --> 00:15:45,679 Speaker 1: state of the team. 422 00:15:45,799 --> 00:15:47,239 Speaker 3: But where the Patriots are concerned. 423 00:15:47,479 --> 00:15:49,799 Speaker 1: Let's just get one thing done, and let's get it 424 00:15:49,839 --> 00:15:51,359 Speaker 1: done right and then. 425 00:15:51,239 --> 00:15:52,759 Speaker 3: We can worry about versatility. 426 00:15:52,879 --> 00:15:54,079 Speaker 1: Am I lying to anybody here? 427 00:15:54,359 --> 00:15:55,719 Speaker 4: Let's just get one thing done. 428 00:15:55,839 --> 00:15:58,519 Speaker 3: Let's get one thing done right, and then we can 429 00:15:58,599 --> 00:16:00,639 Speaker 3: move along. 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