1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Happy New Year. You know, it's good to see everybody. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: And uh, I hope us Animated visit. Uh, you know 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: you had some good Poteta leckys. But it's good to 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: see everybody. I just want to open with a couple 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: of thoughts, uh, to get us going. Okay, Um, we're 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: heading in the right direction. I really believe that. Um, 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: we've had a year, We've we've done a lot of 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: different types of things. Obviously, we've done a pretty extensive 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: overhaul with the roster. We talked about you know, we 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: consistently talked about culture and building a winning culture and 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: and and again it's a team that had to learn 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: how to win again. UM. So I feel really good 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: about the foundation that we've started to lay. Not happy 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: with five and eleven, nobody is, but I feel good 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: about where we're headed. You know, there's a little there's 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: eight franchises right now. Look of head coaches, and you know, 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: the common theme coming out of them was they need 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: they need to get in the right direction. Well, I 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: feel very strongly and very good about and it's easier 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: for me to say to you people that we are 21 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: headed in the right direction. Um, as far as the 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: team's concerned, I've told you guys this, and and and 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: uh and I mean it. There wasn't a day that 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: doesn't go by that I don't ask myself the question 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: if if me and the personnel people given Pat and 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: the coaches enough players to win with. I asked that 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: question of myself all the time. Because roster building is 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: a twelve month deal. You don't just the season doesn't 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: begin and this is the fifty three and this is 30 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: the ten guys on a practice squad and away we 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: go and and you know, so you have to constantly 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: evaluate what you're doing. So, like I said, roster building 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: is a twelve month season, and I and and I'm 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: very conscious of that. Um Like I said, we had 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: a significant overhaul this year. By the end, I think 36 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: we had on the vasity, we had like thirteen guys 37 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: with that had an n Y on the lid last year. 38 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: That's it. That's a pretty extensive overhaul. Um. So, and 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: not everyone is gonna work out, oh, by the way, 40 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: as we've seen. Uh. But at the other the other 41 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: part of it is you've seen that if it's not working, 42 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: we're not I don't believe I believe in that definition 43 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: of insanity. You know, keep doing the same thing and 44 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: expecting a different result. It's true. So you you've also 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: seen that. You know, we make a decision. It's not working. 46 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: We will make a change. So again, I you know, 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: we still have roster work to do. I'm not gonna 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: deny that for a moment. And then the last thing 49 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: I want to talk about. Excuse me before I take 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: you questions, just to get you know, just to get 51 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: it out there, just so you guys understand and everybody 52 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: else's phones off. Okay, the uh, Eli and I had 53 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: a very extensive conversation on Monday. Um no holds bad. 54 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: Uh he was. He took me in a low post 55 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: in one. But you know, the bottom line is it 56 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: was a very honest and upfront conversation. I'll keep what 57 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: was said private between he and I, but in terms 58 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: of any question you're gonna ask me today, okay, just 59 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: so you understand, we will do what's in the best 60 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: interests of the New York Football Giants. That's the way 61 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: we've operated since I walked in the door, and that's 62 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: the way we will continue to operate. What we're trying 63 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: to do here is build sustained success, and that takes 64 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: some brutal honesty, and it takes some tough decisions. Okay. 65 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: So and then finally, just as a quick reminder, don't 66 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: ask me about contracts, don't ask me about negotiations, don't 67 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: ask you about any of that stuff, because I'm just 68 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: not gonna respond. Okay, all right, let the games begin. 69 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: How do you evaluate the quarterback position when you look 70 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: at a one and seven start to the season and 71 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: then four wins over the second half of the year, 72 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: three of which against backup quarterbacks, when you seem to 73 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: play better but the pressure was essentially off at that 74 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: point after the one second Sorry, how do you how 75 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: do you weigh those? Well? You know, first of all, okay, 76 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about backup quarterbacks. We played 77 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks. We went four and four in a second half. 78 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: Here's what I would say to you. Okay, when you 79 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: have a new when you're bringing in installing a new offense, 80 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: you're looking at four to six weeks before everybody's really 81 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: on the same page, and it's really the outliers. It's 82 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: six Hey Gary, how are you doing it? And see 83 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's gonna be out the outside 84 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: of six we were having old line issues where we 85 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: okay in that first half, we've you know, we made changes, um, 86 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's part of it that you know, 87 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: you've got a comfort factor in terms of you know, 88 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: you're on the same page. Um, you know the offense 89 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: is on the same page. And you've also got a 90 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: comfort factor in that the old line, you know, getting 91 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: in Jim, you know, putting chat out there claiming Jim 92 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: on and you know Jiman came in at the bye. 93 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: You know that's when we got them. So doing those 94 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: kinds of things kind of that's settled everything down. Those two, 95 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: the combination of those two, and I think that's the 96 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: reason that you know, the offense you know, started a 97 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: you know click. I I almost fell down when they 98 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: told me we scored the more points than anybody else 99 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: in the division, which kind of blew my mind. I mean, 100 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: somebody swear they swore to went so I hope I'm 101 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: not lying to you, you know, you know, Um, it's 102 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: it's the distance that the offense came from week one 103 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: to week sixteen. You know, you think of the points, 104 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: you know what the backup quarterback that we played against, 105 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: for example in Chicago, he didn't play defense, okay, and 106 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: the other back whoever the Washington those guys weren't on 107 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: the defense. They were on the offense. So you asked 108 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: me an offensive question. Okay. So at the end of 109 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: the day, between the fact that they were able to 110 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: get comfortable with each other and we settled the offensive 111 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: life down, you know when we scored points. I mean, guys, 112 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: it was I saw I saw a graphic. I think 113 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: we averaged twenty seven or twenty eight points a game, 114 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: and the last half of the year something like that. 115 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, So is that answer 116 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: your question fair? I want to be fair. I want 117 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: to be met anybody else Okay, I'm sorry, Jordan, are 118 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: committed back next year? Jordan, Here's what I'm committed to do. 119 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm committed to have making the best decision for the 120 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: in the interests of the New York Football Giants. That's 121 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: what I'm committed to do. We're in the evaluation process, Okay. 122 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: I know that. You know, you guys want answers now, 123 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: but very frankly, I didn't come in yesterday, So I've 124 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: got I've got to do what I do, which is 125 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: get in my office and watch film we will meet 126 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: just uh, you know, we're gonna meet this week with 127 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: the coaches and get their evaluations. We'll meet next week 128 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: with pro personnel and get their evaluations and you know, 129 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: get their you know, feelings on everything. That's our schedule, 130 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: and I will be watching film for the next who 131 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: knows how long till my eyes bleed. All right, that's 132 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: that's what I do. So my commitment is to make 133 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: this team the best team it can be. And if 134 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: and if that happens to have Eli playing quarterback, it does. 135 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: Why do you why do you feel good about the foundation? 136 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: Why do you feel good about this team? Though? Well, 137 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I'll tell you this, and I know 138 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: that I said this before when we had our little 139 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: fireside chats during the season, and you guys looked at 140 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: me like I was a little off. Okay, I feel 141 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: good for because number one, winning in the NFL is 142 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: not easy. It's had. Winning a game in the NFL 143 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: is hard. If anybody tells you any difference, they've never played, 144 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: they don't know the game. It's it's very difficult to 145 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: go one in seven for the first half of the 146 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: year and to lose a number of close games. I 147 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: think we tell eight for the league lead with twelve 148 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: games decided by a touchdown unless and it would have 149 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: been thirteen if the Saints didn't score that late touchdown. 150 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: So to lose games like that b one in seven 151 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: and to have the types of practices we were having 152 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: where there was focus, there was energy, they were you know, 153 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: you know things, every things were getting accomplished, and the 154 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: proof was in the pudding by what we did in 155 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: the last eight games. That's what encourages me. Bet, That's 156 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: why I think the foundation is right. You didn't have 157 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: any of the crap going on in the locker room 158 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: that happened last year. There is nobody in this room 159 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: that can argue with me on one point. This team 160 00:09:53,320 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: did not quit. It was competitive as hell, and that's 161 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: that's the start. You said you almost fell down when 162 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: someone told you, you you know, you led the league, you 163 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: led the division in points? Um, did you almost fall 164 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: down when someone told me that you gave up the 165 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: most points? So that was what's it? Well, that's why 166 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: you're five, and that's why you're five and eleven. You 167 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: think the main reason five and eleven is well, I 168 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: think we've got it. We've got to continue to improve. 169 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: We've got to continue to improve. You know we had 170 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's tough when you when you 171 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: know it's not easy to win games when you don't 172 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: have playmakers. We need we need to improve the defense, guys, 173 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: just like I was still, you looked you right and 174 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: I last year and told you we got to fix 175 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: this old line. We've got it. We've got to get 176 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: better on the defensive side. Is Dave you inhabited I'm 177 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: sorry you inhabited too big tracks with Olivia Vernon and 178 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Joey's Jenkins. How would you evaluate those two the way 179 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: they played this year and moving forward? What I'm gonna 180 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: tell you is I haven't. This is what I'm gonna 181 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: do the next two weeks. My my personal feeling is 182 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: the biggest mistakes are made when you're emotional, and when 183 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: the season ends, you're emotional and you're mentally cooked. So 184 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: until I stopped watching the film, which is gonna start today, 185 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: I really can't you know, answer that question, that that question. 186 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: It's not fair you get the moves you made last offseason. 187 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: Do you think you misjudged how close this team was 188 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: to be? I didn't misjudge it at all because you 189 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: know people that's been asked before, and I thought about 190 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: that I had. I had no illusions of what we 191 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 1: were none. None. You tell me why you think I 192 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: misjudged it? Well, I mean, I guess just if you're 193 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: know where you're gonna be a rebuilding process us you 194 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: bring back and you don't draft a quarterback, you trade 195 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: give up a draft pick for Roal Tree, you bring 196 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: in older veteran creeations and those of those types of things. Well, 197 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta start somewhere. You gotta start somewhere. 198 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: But by the end of the year, we had one 199 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: of the youngest teams in the league. So you know, listen, 200 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: nobody likes losing. Nobody anybody in here like losing. You 201 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: want to raise your hands. Nobody likes to lose. Okay. 202 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: So what you have to do when you come in 203 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: is you evaluate what you have and you say to yourself, Remember, 204 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: I've told you guys, I'm on that tight rope, and 205 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: me and a two two on the tight rope paint 206 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: pretty okay, But it's the tight rope of you want 207 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: to win now. You want to get those winds now 208 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: because you've got a coaching staff whose fancies are on 209 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: the line every Sunday, and you want to set the 210 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: team up, the franchise up for sustained success. So you know, 211 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: we made, we sat act, we made the decisions we 212 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: made last year, and here we are and there's there's 213 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: some there's some good stuff, and there's some stuff we 214 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: gotta fixing a wanting that might make judgments about players 215 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 1: are looking at film this year. At the last year, 216 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: at this time, though you were very committed to Eli Manning, 217 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: you said that what you saw that in the season 218 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: wasn't a mirage. I'm just curious, is there a chance 219 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: that will there will be another starting quarterback at start 220 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: next season? For filmy? Listen, there's a chance you and 221 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: I are gonna get hit by a bus. Steve, you know, 222 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: you know it's it's we're gonna do what's what's what's 223 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: in the best interest. We're gonna look at film, We're 224 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: gonna evaluate everything. Everything's on the table for us. Everything 225 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: is on the table for us. Okay, do you have 226 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,239 Speaker 1: to reevaluate the evaluation process? When you look back at 227 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: the evaluation process alled you to Jonathan Stewart and Patrick o'mama, 228 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: do you have to do some self scouting and maybe 229 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: go into this offseason a little different way you might 230 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: have viewed. It's we'll go into this season differently because 231 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: we have different issues. Okay. One of the biggest issues 232 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: we had last year that we had a fix was 233 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: what the locker room. And both Jonathan Stewart and Patrick 234 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: o home and they are true professionals and they were 235 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: brought here for a specific purpose. Besides, they were brought here, 236 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, for other reasons than they're playing. Okay, so 237 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: just understand that we feel like we've turned that. Connor 238 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: and especially with this rookie class. Kwan's unique. Okay, I 239 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: stood up here and you guys watched me jewel all 240 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: over myself in the pre draft, right, Paul, why it 241 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: was ugly when well things happened. I shouldn't want a 242 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: bib from Joe Stone crap. Okay. My point is he's 243 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: he's unique and he's special, and so isn't Will Lornandez 244 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: and b J and Lorenzo and j still growing up. 245 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: You know, physically, Kyle's you know, in a different position 246 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: because a different spot because of the quarterback position. But 247 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: this is all part of the process. Will continue to 248 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: vet guys out. We're only gonna bring quality people in 249 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: this in here that hate to lose, so that'll that 250 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: will stay the same. So obviously different, it's a different 251 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: We're different from we were twelve months ago. We're in 252 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: a different place, so we'll do things to you know, 253 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: we'll approach things somewhat differently. When you evaluated Manning da 254 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: last last year, when you're evaluating my man and you 255 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: hadn't seen him to play throughout the season, right, so 256 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: you have to rely on the film. You've seen him 257 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: take every step this seas, you've seen him in practices. 258 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: Why do you need to go back to the film 259 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: to f too form an opinion on what you just 260 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: so over the last four or five months, I never 261 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: want to I always want to be right. I always 262 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: tell him it's it's you know, you always want to 263 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: be you know, you always want to have your whole 264 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: cad And that's me. That's just my nature. I'm a 265 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: film junkie. And there are things that I'll remember that 266 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: that that that happened that you know, oh my gosh, 267 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: you know that's me. And I'm very understand this. And 268 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: I think I've said this you guys before. I am 269 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: very intentional about how I operate, very intentional, methodical. Some 270 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: people call me an altakaca, you know, whatever you want 271 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: to say, but that's just the way I am. I've 272 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: been that way my whole career in the NFL. Very 273 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: methodical about film watching and thinking about things and making decisions. 274 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm very intentional. That's why I say, yes, I watched 275 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: every snap, but I want to watch the film and 276 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: I want to have time to breathe. I'm sorry, Patty. 277 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: When you go back and me and you do this evaluation, obviously, 278 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: you know, you've got guys like Eli Manning who have 279 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: been playing fifty years. You've got some other guys who 280 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: have been playing a couple of years. When you do 281 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: your evaluation and basically on everything, are you looking ahead 282 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: or or are you looking back at the entire body 283 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: of work in terms of what they've done in the past, 284 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: injury history and all that stuff. You know, you turn around. 285 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: You know, obviously it's different. When you're looking at older players, 286 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: you're looking early, middle and late. You know, did they fade? 287 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: You know? When you're looking at younger guys, you're looking 288 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: for early, middle and late. Did they improve? You know, 289 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: that's what you're looking for. Um, So it is a 290 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: little different, you know, Like I remembered, Okay, I'm really 291 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: gonna date myself. Back in two thousand when we brought 292 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: in those three offensive lineman's Lomas Brown and Glenn Parker 293 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: and Dusty I looked at you know, the big question 294 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: for me for on Lomas was what was he playing 295 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: playing like in December? Because Lomas was you know, it 296 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: turns you know, Lomas was long and lean. He wasn't 297 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: a power player. He's an athlete us an athletic tackle, 298 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: so that's what you know. So I wanted to see 299 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: he's almost the same player in December that he was 300 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: in September. So you when you've got older guys, you 301 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: got to do that. You gotta see if they faded 302 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: fading on you. So that's why Tom, I will look 303 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: and look and look and look until I have the 304 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: puffs of white smoke coming out of my ears or 305 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: my head or whatever. Sumer has um Um to us anyway, 306 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: has been very supportive of Eli, saying, you think you've 307 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: got years left, uh, you know, leadership experience makes and 308 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: throws all that stuff, and pointed out that in the 309 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: last eight games, the golfense scored a lot of points 310 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: with Eli. Um, how much will you take that into 311 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: your evaluation of EVI the head coach seemingly wants it's 312 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: got back. It's part of it, you know, It's it's 313 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: this is not a dictator. I'm I really, I'm a 314 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: big believer in collaboration. I'm not a dictator. I'm not Um, 315 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, these are conversations, you know. You 316 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: know that you're gonna have, you know, with pat That's 317 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: why I say, We're gonna hear the coaches what they 318 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: have to say. We're gonna talk to the pro guys, 319 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: what do they have to say, and then we're all, 320 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, well, we'll get my work done and then 321 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 1: we'll get together and formulate a plan. You know. But 322 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: obviously it's part of it, Paul. I mean, you can't 323 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: you know, and you know Patsy had a lot of 324 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: successive quarterbacks, so I'm certainly gonna listen. And I had 325 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: that conversation. I'm sorry. When you and Eli had that 326 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: conversation Monday, did the two of you come to conclusions 327 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: or did you leave it as the fluid situation that 328 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: you're portraying it to us? I'm leaving it. We left 329 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: it at that. We had a very we had a 330 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: great conversation. He's a he's a metch. When you watch 331 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: this team on Sundays, and I know you want to 332 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: watch the film, but when you've watched this team every Sunday, 333 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: what is your evaluation of your offense with and without Odell? 334 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: What difference is that? So he didn't play the last 335 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: four games, right, listen, you can't. It's the bottom line 336 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: is he's you know you want him on the field. 337 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: You know, I have this crazy idea that you know 338 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: he's a great player, so let's get him on the field. 339 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: But unfortunately he got the leg whipping Those caps could 340 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: be funny, thanks, they really can um. So you know 341 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: the offense did what it did with him, and it 342 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: did what it did without him. Was this year good? 343 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: You guys obviously made a huge financial commitment to Ode'll 344 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: beck him just a few months ago. Are you committed 345 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: to him being here in two thousand nineteen or are 346 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: you open to trade ideas or anything with him as well? 347 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: We didn't sign him to trade him. If that's what 348 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: you're asking me, He'll be here. You hear what I said, 349 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: David um so a year ago you stood there and 350 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: it left very little doubt they were committed to Eli. 351 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean, very strong about that. And Pat was a 352 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: couple of weeks later at his press conference. Today you're 353 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: saying you're gonna do what's in the best interests of 354 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: the Giants. Does that indicate a change in your feeling 355 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: and commitment to Eli? You know, no, it is. You know, Gary, 356 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: it's funny. Last year, you know that was the question. 357 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: You know that was the question, but it was if 358 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: you think about it, Okay, the guy was running for 359 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: his life last year. Okay, this year we calmed it down. 360 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: You know, once we once we got rolling. Once everybody 361 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: get comfortable with the offense. I mean, Eli had You know, 362 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: if you're gonna look at stats, it won't too shabby 363 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: what he did. You know, obviously want to win more 364 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: games and and and you know we've got to we've 365 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: got to continue to improve the roster. How did he 366 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: look to you in December? In December, I don't know 367 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: he looked. We scored thirty six squid seven squad fotty. 368 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: How does that look? You know, he's still he still 369 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: can make the NFL throws. You know what I'm saying, Steve, 370 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: he can still make NFL throws. He's still got it. 371 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: That would you would be the ideal scenario at quarterback 372 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: going into next season? Would it be Eli and the 373 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: first round pick, ELI and bringing another young player, ELI 374 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: and A and a veteran free agent or just turn 375 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: the page. Yeah. I can't answer that question because I 376 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: don't know what the field. I don't know what the 377 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: field is right now. You know what I'm saying. I 378 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: don't know what the field is, Holifornias. For you to 379 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: address the quarterback of the future of this team this offseason, 380 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,479 Speaker 1: is that a priority or is that something that you 381 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: think you can't you can't. Let me let me tell 382 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: you something. Jordan's okay. If you make something a priority, 383 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: you will make a mistake. It's got to be within 384 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: the flow of what you're doing. You can't force it, 385 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: especially a quarterback. That's why you guys. Look, you know, 386 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: the guys in Carolina looked at me like I was 387 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: out of my mind. You guys looked at me. We'll 388 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: take you get in the draft. You're taking the best 389 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: player you take. You're not taking I need uh so 390 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: I'm taking Uh No, you do that you're gonna make 391 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: a mistake. You're gonna screw it up. You're gonna screw 392 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: it up. One winning season in their last six. I'm sorry, 393 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: the Giants have had one winning season in the last six. 394 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: What is your message to Giants fans right now? Well, 395 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: the messages we've you know what I've said to you before. 396 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: We're in We're going in the right direction. We had 397 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: a lot of competitive games, and we're getting better and 398 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: we're gonna continue to fix this future. Here are you 399 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: still as high as him? On him? As you you know, 400 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 1: we drafted him in the fourth round. He he did 401 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: some nice things to training camp, you know, he you know, 402 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: did something silly and in Hoboken or Fort Lee or 403 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: wherever the hell it was, you know, and uh we 404 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: hawking thanks, you know, did something silly there. You know, 405 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: he's developing, He's like anybody else. You know. It's again, 406 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna be a little bit of a 407 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: nut jerk here, maybe to some of you. You know, 408 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: how many of you guys wrote pole to winning articles 409 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 1: your first year as reporters. You did not, Steve. You're 410 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: like Pinocchio, Pinocchio exactly, but you don't you understand what 411 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's it's he's a kid. I'm a kid. 412 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: You have kids. We make mistakes, all right. When none 413 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: of us are perfect, Hopefully we learned, you know. So 414 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: to answer your question, you know, Kyle's Kyle's a work 415 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: in progress, just like me. We're gonna go. When you 416 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: trade in Snacks, I believe one of the reasons you 417 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: said was so the young guys could get some valuable 418 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: playing time. How would you assess what they did with 419 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: that playing time? Well, you know that when we traded 420 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: snacks part of the issue. You know, when Snacks was here, 421 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: he's playing the one. We had Dalvin playing the three 422 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: and b J playing the five techniques. Well, Dalvin's the 423 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: one technique and b J's the three. So you know, 424 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: I'm very pleased with the change. To answer your question, 425 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: you know it it's you know, b J came a 426 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: long way to have you know, it's you know, the 427 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: pass rush is critical, as as I've stated a million times. 428 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: As we all know, b J had I think five 429 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: and a half sacks, so he's getting you know, he 430 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: made made some progress inside. Excuse me, Dalvin, did you 431 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: know what he does? It? At the one. So for 432 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: us it worked out because and and those young guys 433 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: are getting snaps the only way they're gonna get better. 434 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: There's a theory out there that young guys once they hit, 435 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: once they get to five thousand snaps, that's when they're 436 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: really ready to rock and roll. And that includes practice 437 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: and game snaps and all that. So I don't know 438 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: if I subscribe to it, but I'm just throwing it 439 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: out there or whatever have you said earlier? I think 440 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: one of the things about Eli being here is on 441 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: him making the best decision for the New York Giants. 442 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I thought I thought I heard you say 443 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: one of the on whether Eli will be here, it's 444 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: on him making the best decision. No on you men. 445 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: So would that decision though, involve money? Can he have 446 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: the talent to play here? But if he makes too 447 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: much money, he can't be here. I'm I'm not gonna 448 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: go down there. You know. It's it's go down that 449 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: road with you, you know. It's I mean, obviously part 450 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: of the you know, the salary cap is players are 451 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: not in vacuums. When it comes to that salary cap, 452 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: nobody's in a vacuum. Okay, you don't say, Okay, so 453 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: I want to sign this guy. I gotta sign this guy. 454 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 1: Got us? Now, wait a minute, you gonn look at 455 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: your cap situation. So but I'm not gonna go there 456 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: on on, you know, not good. Eli's father told ESPN 457 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: the other day that if Eli wants to come back, 458 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: that you guys need to win. You can't go through 459 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: another season like this. As you sit behind closed doors 460 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: and talk to Eli, can you guarantee to him that 461 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: you will have a winning team and a good enough 462 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: team for him to want to continue to play here? Pat, 463 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: really and truly, can anybody guarantee anything like that? Really? 464 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: You know, oh your Yankee fans, not you're gonna win 465 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: a hundred sixty two games this year? You know I 466 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: knew better. All kidding aside, you can't guarantee that. There's 467 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: no way I wouldn't guarantee that to anybody, you know. 468 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: Do you understand his point? Do I understand his point? 469 00:27:54,920 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: Whose point? No? Because I actually didn't tell me? Where 470 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: do you? How do you respond to what sort of 471 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: continues to be ongoing idea that you should have taken 472 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback, regardless of how great Kuan and his rookie season. 473 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: You know, I respond to it by saying, again, you're 474 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna take the best player available. You you start reaching, 475 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna get into trouble. This was us, and I'll 476 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: say it again, kim Us taking Juan was a reference. 477 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: Was not a referendum on the quarterbacks. It was a 478 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: referendum on Sa Kue, on the player he is and 479 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: the person he is, and if I, if I was 480 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: in that situation a hundred times, I draft him a 481 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: hundred times. We're going to this offseason with your hot 482 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: Molly's is this You have Solder, you have Hernandez. Do 483 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: you feel like the other three guys could be your 484 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: starting line next year? Did a big emphasis. Here's here's 485 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: what I would say. First of all, don't forget p O. 486 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: Don't forget John. You know he went down, you know, 487 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: unfortunately in the second game he was he was playing 488 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: the best of anybody, you know, So don't forget about 489 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: p O. I am always gonna keep working on those lines, 490 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: on those groups. You cannot have enough hog always. You can't. 491 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: You can't because people get hurt. You can't have enough. 492 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: So I will always. You know, people looked at me 493 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: in thirteen he took defensive tackle on the first round, 494 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: defensive tack on the second round, and every saying. I 495 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: mean I had people, you know, people saying and maybe 496 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: they're right, gentleman has no idea what he's doing, you know, 497 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: so I'm always gonna I'm always gonna do that. Why 498 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: is this offseason and the evaluation you need to do 499 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: and the draft process and everything else different than year one? 500 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: For you? What is different about this process? I think 501 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: I think what's different is, you know, we've got a 502 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: better understanding of what Pat and his coaching staff are 503 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: looking for because you're looking for scheme fits we were 504 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: last year was not easy, guys, because we're confused. You know, 505 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: we're moving to that three full look, that type of 506 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: three four that that Jimmy was you know, wants to 507 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna play and it's there are different 508 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: style players at and you can't. I mean, you're fit 509 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: in a you know, a square hole in around pegging 510 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: square pegging around hole. Like, I know, I get it, Steve, 511 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: be patient, you know, that's part of it. You know, 512 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: we have a better understanding of of what the coaches 513 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: are looking for and and and it makes it, it 514 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: makes it big when I went to Carolina, it was 515 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: a four three. We played a four three ify years, 516 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: So for me, it wasn't a big deal, you know, 517 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: and the and the you know, the offense is not 518 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: a big deal, but it's it's really the defense that 519 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: it's different. So it is fair to say the challenges 520 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: last year were especially on the defensive side of the ball. 521 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: Then they wear offense exactly, and you can only trade 522 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: out so many guys. Someone you know, you know, blow 523 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: the whistle. Leven guys gotta go out there. At least 524 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: you want to eleven out there, you know. So I'm 525 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: making a copy. The records get attached to head coaches, obviously, Um, 526 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: Patremer's five and eleven in his first year with Giants. Um, 527 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: did you see any wavering in your mind that he's 528 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: the right guy to this, you know, anything moving forward? 529 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, because like I said, his first year, the 530 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: record bad, the paw, you know, none at all, not 531 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: at all. If anything, it reinforced my feeling about him 532 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: a year ago, you know, when we went through the 533 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: interview process. You know, it's it's it was the steadiness, 534 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: it was the message. It was like I, I guess 535 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: said to you, we're one in seven and we have 536 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: two practices during the bye week that I mean, I 537 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: just was kind of amazed. And it's again, I don't 538 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know that. I mean, 539 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: you guys make gloss it over, but I don't know 540 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: that you can really appreciate because you know you're there 541 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: and then you're gone. You know, you watch Stretch, you 542 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: watch him, So what are you guys in fifteen minutes? 543 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: You know, if a cocoa and you're gone, okay, So 544 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: but to stand there for the next hour and forty minutes, 545 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: I wish you could have seen it. And just the 546 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: way he kept them, the pat and the coaches, kept 547 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: everybody on task, going in the right direction, understanding that 548 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, we're to a certain degree, maybe we're the 549 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: little engine that could. You know, he kept pushing that 550 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: thing up the hill. And there's no doubt in my 551 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: mind he's the right guy. Why you do last one? 552 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: Last one? Why did you have to feel the need 553 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: to have an honest and I forget what word you 554 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: used straightforward, straightforward conversation with Eli when you well, first, 555 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, I have this crazy idea that I'm always 556 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: gonna be honest and straightforward. Okay, so and sometimes that 557 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: gets me into trouble, but we won't go there. Um. 558 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: You know, Eli came in and when he wanted to talk, 559 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: and I just have this, like I said, crazy idea 560 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: that if a guy asked me questions, I'm gonna be 561 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: honest with him. And we you know. So it wasn't 562 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: like he was called to the principal's office. He came 563 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: to say, mate, what's that? Because he is he's just 564 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: the way he carries himself, the way he who he 565 00:33:52,080 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: is as a person, the way he he respects the game. Um, 566 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's any reason Steve that we call you know, 567 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: you you know men in your life that you know, Yeah, 568 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: they're not matches. I mean, you know what a matches. 569 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: But there's no um, there's no deviousness, there's no duplicitnessness, 570 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: none of that stuff. He's a match. Someday I hope 571 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: to be a match. You know. The state of the organization, 572 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: the roster, I mean, and you know thirteen players only 573 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: left over. Do you look at it as a rebuild 574 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: or how realistic is it that this team is in 575 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: a multi year process You're in before you get back 576 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: to being a super Bowl contender, you know, Joy not 577 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: I just hate the word rebuild, you know what I mean. 578 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: I don't ever want you just you just keep going, 579 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: you just keep building. It's really what you trying to, 580 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: Really what we're doing here, you're trying to you know, 581 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: we're doing our best to accumulate the talent that fits 582 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: our schemes and that understands how to play the game 583 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 1: and hates to flip and lose. That's what it really 584 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: is all about. And we're going to continue to, you know, 585 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: do this and get it right. We're gonna fix it. 586 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna fix it.