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Speaker 1: You're having trouble connecting with your brother who is in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. He tried to get help right

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Speaker 2: before it. He was like reaching out to me. It's like,

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Speaker 2: and he calls me, and I just gives me so

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to Jalen. Hello, Jalen, Hey, what's up. How

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Speaker 1: are you doing, Jalen?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. How are you get.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing good, Jalen. It says you're twenty five years

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Uh, tell me what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, my family has a pretty long history with

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Speaker 2: been he had dynams with schizophrenia when he was like

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Speaker 2: It's like, hey, like I don't really like doing this

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Speaker 2: And I was like working a job or had to

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Speaker 2: stronger out and he's been and since we're Native American,

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Speaker 2: like in Oklahoma, like the state can't prosecute us if

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Speaker 2: like they throw you around, like if you're an Indian

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Speaker 2: and he just got declared mentally insane, which, like we

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Speaker 2: he's like I've been kind of in contact with him

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Speaker 2: because it's been three years. So it's been they had

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Speaker 2: But he calls me all the time, and I just

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how would you describe your relationship with your brother?

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Speaker 2: Well, like, I'm barely like a year older than them,

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Speaker 1: Man, are you the the primary Like would you would

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Speaker 2: No, that's the thing I really am. Like my dad does.

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Speaker 2: He does, but like but like his mom, that's what

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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, the here's the thing. My dad he's like

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Speaker 2: I am? But my oldest brother he's like the same

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Speaker 1: So the the reason I was asking about like the

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Speaker 2: My dad, Like we talked about like he is doing better,

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Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, look, you clearly, you clearly

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Speaker 1: You sound like you're trying as hard as you can. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Know exactly, and I'm not mine. Kind of it sucks

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Speaker 2: because I'm like, you shouldn't. I shouldn't. I feel bad

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I mean we both agree here

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm like, that's what I'm saying, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: can't just bring this up like casual conversation with my friends,

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Speaker 2: you know, Hey, like my brother stabs someone and I need.

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Speaker 3: Help with it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, should I just not forget about them?

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Speaker 2: But like stop answering well calls like what's well?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so, so how frequent are calls?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, we want the about once a week?

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Speaker 1: That once a week? Okay? Are you what? What what

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Speaker 2: Not completely? I just like I would like to see

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Speaker 2: go visit him once a month, like in person. But COVID,

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Speaker 2: But uh yeah, that's what I would like to do

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Speaker 2: because because I'm doing pretty good with myself to guy.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that you have a lot of guilt

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Speaker 2: If you can actually okay, oh yeah, okay hearing hearing

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Speaker 1: I mean, so this is another thing, right, Like so

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Get yeah really insightful of course.

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Speaker 1: Man, is is there anything that you want to say

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Speaker 2: No, Well, I do have one more question for you.

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Speaker 2: I'll make a real short I'm sorry hit me.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm trying to become a social worker

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Speaker 1: See. I feel like, uh you interning for me would

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Speaker 1: I will I will have to shoot you down for

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Speaker 2: Well, when are you going to get certified? Oh? Never.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I could be an actual therapist. I

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing is, right after you, I'm going

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Speaker 1: do appreciate all the kind words that you've said, Jayleen.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you sharing your store alright with us, and

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Speaker 1: fuck man, I wish you good luck and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna kill it. You obviously someone who

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Speaker 2: But oh you have a great day yet.

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Speaker 1: Hey you too, John Ticker? But hello, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 1: His is Braiden from Ohio.

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Speaker 4: My name is Brandon.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, let's us hear your name is Braiden.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's close enough. You go with whatever you feel like, though.

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Speaker 1: I always go with what it says here. Yeah, what's up,

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Speaker 1: because let's I just want to explain this to you.

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Speaker 1: I read this computer all the time.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I understand, Yeah, so I and.

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Speaker 1: So I have I know that the subject of your

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Speaker 1: the fact that I, just in general about all matters,

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Speaker 2: What's called Brady.

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Speaker 1: Even if you theoretically would be more knowledgeable about the subject,

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Speaker 1: I still don't trust you as much as.

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Speaker 4: My computer, and that is one hundred acceptable, Braiden.

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Speaker 1: It says that you're nineteen years old from Ohio. Good

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Speaker 1: for you. You had testicular torsion surgery and you wanted

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Speaker 1: to discuss what it's like to have your testicles operated on. No.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just thought it was an interesting matter that

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Speaker 1: I'm very lucky to have very little information about this,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I think it would be helpful to

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Speaker 1: Moving forward. How did you how did you first tort

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Speaker 4: That's the funny part. I fell asleep. It was on

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Speaker 1: Put it lightly well, okay, well hold on, when things

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Speaker 1: are doing like a what's the name of that fucking movie. Yeah,

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00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: they're doing like an Exorcist thing where they've spun three

434
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty degrees. All that's what I'm assuming testicular

435
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: looks like. Is that accurate?

436
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 4: I mean, you're somewhat right, somewhat wrong, So you know

437
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: how they're supposed to fit there. It was at like,

438
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 4: let's say, almost a forty five degree angle. The left

439
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 4: wood was a forty five degree angle, to the right

440
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 4: was forty fourth top of the right, so it was

441
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 4: like sitting on top of the right one like an axe. Almost.

442
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so your balls were tandem, Yeah.

443
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 4: They were like the way the doctor explained it to

444
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 4: me is like the cords got like tangled somehow while

445
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 4: I was sleeping.

446
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: Man, the human body is really like stupid because the fact.

447
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 4: That you can just get really hit it blew my mind.

448
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the fact that you can just be

449
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: going about I mean, you're nineteen years old. You've been

450
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: sleeping every single day for nineteen years, and then all

451
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: of a sudden you have a day where you do

452
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: it wrong and just fucks up your testicles. That's so

453
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 1: crazy to me.

454
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: Yeah. The worst part about all of it is I

455
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 4: found out So it happened when I was seventeen. So

456
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 4: I found out I needed surgery on my seventeenth birthday.

457
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, well guess when you woke up?

458
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 4: Did it?

459
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: Did it hurt?

460
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 5: No?

461
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: When I woke up, I didn't like feel anything was

462
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 4: too off until like maybe twenty twenty five minutes later

463
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 4: when I got in the shower in the morning. Thank

464
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 4: god I took a shower that early. Because the doctor said,

465
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 4: if you don't catch it within twenty four hours, they

466
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 4: have to actually cut out a testicle because you lose

467
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 4: blood flow. Yeah, so in order to save the other testicle,

468
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 4: they would have to cut out one of them. But

469
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 4: thank god that none of that happened.

470
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: Happy.

471
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 4: I just went in and by the time I got there,

472
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: I kind of situated them back myself.

473
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, And they said like, yeah, definitely, like you have.

474
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 4: Signs of what happened. And I went into there.

475
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: You situated on the bank yourself, right, So okay, so

476
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: you so your balls were tandem and then you were

477
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: down there doing your own little surgery and did it

478
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: correct at all? Or when you tried to move them

479
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: did it?

480
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 4: I was just kind of like, yeah, you just I

481
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 4: was just kind of like cupping them kind of so

482
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 4: they didn't like get messed up or whatever, just kind

483
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 4: of like feeling around for what was happening because I

484
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 4: didn't quite understand. I was still in shock. So on

485
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 4: the way there, I must have situated them back in

486
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 4: the place. But they said either way they had to

487
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 4: go in and quote unquote tag them down in surgery.

488
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 4: So it didn't happen again.

489
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: And did the doctor give any more insight into how

490
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: exactly they got contorted? Was it like you were just

491
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: like rubbing your thighs together in some weird way. I mean,

492
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 1: I can't get up with the fact that you've been

493
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: sleeping for seventeen years and then just how the fuck

494
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: just one night you position your body in a weird way, Like,

495
00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: did they explain any of that?

496
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, not to scare anybody in chat or you, but

497
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: they said the three most common ways is through physical

498
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 4: contact in a sport like if you can hit or something,

499
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 4: through sexual activities if you're going too hard, or in sleep.

500
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: The third most common way of hearing to happen is

501
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: in sleep and just you know, roll over or do

502
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: something wrong and they just don't move like they're supposed to.

503
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 4: One comes free and that's why they had to do

504
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: surgery with the kind of make it so when they

505
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 4: move they move together.

506
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: Man, it is good to have a reminder every now

507
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: and then of just how fragile and stupid our bodies are.

508
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, So it also says here that your

509
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: girlfriend at time broke up with you, because.

510
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I find it really funny.

511
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: Oh please please tell us what I find it.

512
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: I mean, at the time, it was, you know, heartbreaking,

513
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 4: but now I find it really really funny because when

514
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 4: I first had it, like I had to go to

515
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: the emergency room immediately, didn't know what was happening, didn't know,

516
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 4: you know, I was thinking the worse for the worst,

517
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: like they were just gonna have to cut them out

518
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: as stud as I got there or something. So when

519
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 4: I got home, my girlfriend of two years was actually

520
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 4: staying here because of you know, stuff with their mom

521
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 4: or whatever. She had her own room, and she she

522
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: was like, what happened? I told her all about it.

523
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, for a minimum, I can't have

524
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: sex until the surgery, which they didn't plan until a

525
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 4: month like from the date, so I had to wait

526
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: a month, and then on top of that another month,

527
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 4: so two months I couldn't have sex. And she straight

528
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 4: up started like crying. I was like, it's really not

529
00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 4: that big of a deal, like YadA YadA. I didn't

530
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: think it was a big deal, but apparently she found

531
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: it was the biggest deal. And like we didn't break

532
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 4: up immediately after that, but like that definitely had one

533
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 4: of the bigger roles to play into us breaking up.

534
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, So this girl at the time had

535
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: whatever was going on in her family life, and so

536
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: she had her own room in your house.

537
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, my mom, it wasn't like anything. Yeah, she had

538
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 4: her own room. We ever had a bigger house. My

539
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 4: sister moved out recently.

540
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: Damn. Okay, so you had truly like your whole family.

541
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: You really took this this girl in.

542
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was there. I was with her for two

543
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 4: years up to that point, from friend in summer up

544
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 4: until throughout high school.

545
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so you you took her in. How long was

546
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: she staying with you guys up until you guys broke up?

547
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: Roughly three to five moments.

548
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: What did did she stick around after you guys broke up?

549
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: The funny thing is we talked for probably about two

550
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 4: or three weeks after we broke up, and maybe went

551
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: out to be a coffee or something once or twice,

552
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: and then she went to Florida to go visit one

553
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: of her friends, and she just completely like cut me off,

554
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 4: like blocked me on Snapchat and shit, she didn't say

555
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 4: anything to me, Like, she didn't say like this is why,

556
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: like I can't do this anymore. I don't want to

557
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 4: be friends anymore. She just caught me off.

558
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: Man. That's fucking cold that she would do that after

559
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: you guys took her in.

560
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I figure everyone's got their own way.

561
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 4: She was ready differently then other people. You know, I'm

562
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 4: not gonna hold it against her more.

563
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: I get this sense from you that having your testicles

564
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: operated on has like made you calmer, has made you

565
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: a more stoic, a thinker, feeler. I feel like you

566
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: had your ball. I I feel like I'm maternal lot

567
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: and like mature.

568
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: I think I'm matured a lot in eighth grade. I

569
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: feel like I'm matured a lot in eighth grade because

570
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: some of the people I was closer we used to

571
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 4: smoke a lot a week.

572
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: And.

573
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: Someone I was close with died in a car crash

574
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: when she was nineteen. So I just started smoking with them,

575
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: and it just kind of like I was hanging out

576
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: with the older group of people, and it kind of

577
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 4: like put me into a deeper mindset of thinking deeper

578
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: into things instead of taking them for what they are

579
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 4: on certains.

580
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: Ah, okay, so you were you were getting high with

581
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: older people. So you're getting high with nineteen year old

582
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: in eighth grade and that made you more mature.

583
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like family, friends and stuff like that.

584
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 4: But it wasn't anything like. It wasn't like every single

585
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: time I was with them every now and that I

586
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: take to hit him truth and it was. But even

587
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: being around them, it wouldn't just you know what I mean,

588
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: being around an older crowd of people kind of made

589
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: me think older than I.

590
00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: Was at the time.

591
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: Well, Braiden, all right, so you've got some good perspective

592
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: on the past here before we go, what's next for you? Braiden?

593
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 4: In your in your That was another reason I was so,

594
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: That's another reason I was calling in. I'm not trying

595
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: to hold you up too long, but like I don't

596
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: necessarily know where to go next.

597
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Well it sounds like you're operating off of

598
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: At least the sense I get from you is you're

599
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: operating through life from this place of uh. You know,

600
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: I had my heart broken, I had my balls broken.

601
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: I've been hanging out with older people all my life.

602
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: You know this. That the other thing. I've experienced, some pain,

603
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: some pleasure. I'm ready for what's next. That's That's at

604
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: least what I get from you, So I'm not too

605
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: worried about.

606
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 4: One thing I would like to say before I go,

607
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 4: is I really appreciate you and your team being so

608
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: open and friendly. I think you just being down to

609
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: earth and everything. It's really refreshing to see there's people

610
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: weapons earth like that.

611
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that very much. Brayden, thank you for

612
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: letting me call you by the right name. And uh,

613
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: I hope you'll about the rest of the evening.

614
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: You have a great one.

615
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: Man.

616
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: It is through adversity, particularly adversity in the genitals, we

617
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: grow stronger to conquer further adversity later down the line

618
00:33:51,040 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: in our lives, especially further adversity in the generals. Because, uh, Braiden,

619
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna wake up one day at forty two

620
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: with his right ball just like talk to in his

621
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: elbow or something, and he'll be ready for that day.

622
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: When that happens to me, I'm freaking out. I'm panicking.

623
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm They're gonna have to cut mine off because

624
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: I won't respond in a calm, collected manner in a

625
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: way that Braiden would. So so I'm not worried about him.

626
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: Let's talk to Armando.

627
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: He Hello, is this the gag?

628
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: Is this Armando?

629
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 4: It is?

630
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: How are you, Amanda?

631
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: I'm all right, tired, say the lead.

632
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, what are you? What have you been uh

633
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: doing all day that's made you so tired? Uh?

634
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: Whim working? I've been offing my mother out. She's building

635
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: a new back patio of the strings going around and

636
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 4: now I'm currently at work right now myself.

637
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: Oh you're at work right now?

638
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, it's fair.

639
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: So are you where? Are you like on break or something?

640
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Or are you who's paying you to talk to the right?

641
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 4: Oh? My boss?

642
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: No?

643
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 4: No, I'm moving boxes around right now.

644
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: Okay. Oh are you add like an Amazon.

645
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 4: Boxes putting them down? No? Kroger crow?

646
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 1: Oh crow a stock book?

647
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

648
00:35:55,840 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I can hear it in that night the boxes.

649
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 4: You can't plug it or no. I could make him stop, well, I.

650
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: Would ask him. I him stop, and then I think

651
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna get yelled at. No, no, no, All right,

652
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: well listen, Armando. It says here you're eighteen years old

653
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: from Michigan. It says your mom is a Instagram influencer

654
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Speaker 1: who is looking to start in only fans. She's trying

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Speaker 1: to convince you that it's a good idea, but you're

656
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Speaker 1: not quite sure. It also says here the call screener

657
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Speaker 1: made a note and they said be sure to ask

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Speaker 1: him about the peanut butter feet pictures. Don't let me

659
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Speaker 1: forget about that. Let's save that for the don't we'll

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Speaker 1: get there. We'll get don't don't jump to it. We'll

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Speaker 1: get there. But let's start with this. Okay, is this

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Speaker 1: all accurate? First of all?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: All, okay, okay, uh so what are your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 4: I'm nervous, to say the least. I'm not one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent again, but I'm nervous.

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Speaker 1: Uh in what way are you nervous?

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Speaker 4: I'm scared of the repercussions to me and who might

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Speaker 4: you know see it? You know it's because of be

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Speaker 4: out there on the internet. You know, I was grady

671
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Speaker 4: to believe what's on the internet never disappeared.

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Speaker 1: You know that's true. What repercussions are you afraid of

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Speaker 1: to to yourself?

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Speaker 4: I you know, gonna sound a little self centered, but

675
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Speaker 4: just a little bit of embarrassment, you know.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 5: I'm scared to be embarrassed.

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Speaker 4: I and and and whatever. Shoot my foskt on there

679
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 4: is you know kind of directly or in directly looks

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Speaker 4: to me.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hm.

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Speaker 4: At least that's how I feel.

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Speaker 1: Sure. For sure, you're embarrassed of like what your friends

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Speaker 1: finding out and a fun sending you the pictures and

685
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Speaker 1: you know all that stuff. Okay, yeah, you know it's not.

686
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Speaker 4: It's not every day that my mom, you know, decides, hey,

687
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Speaker 4: let me just sorry, you know some softcore you know fuck.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm are you worried at okay? Is that is

689
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Speaker 1: that the extent of uh of of your worries is

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Speaker 1: just repercussions about embarrassment.

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Speaker 4: They so that that that and you know, it's just

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Speaker 4: it just doesn't feel like a right occupation. I don't

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Speaker 4: know nothing against those people, no, but I just I

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Speaker 4: just feel like she shouldn't do it. I don't think

695
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Speaker 4: it's right for her, you know. And maybe that's just

696
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Speaker 4: me being the sun, but I don't think it's right

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Speaker 4: for her, And especially with how long I've known her

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Speaker 4: and what she's her personality is like, I don't know what.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what it is about her her personality that

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Speaker 1: you think is antithetical to her doing doing only fans.

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Speaker 4: She's very want on the internet too, so like she's

702
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Speaker 4: been banned from certain social media multiple times and had

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Speaker 4: multiple day bands and stuff that she is. She's quite

704
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Speaker 4: the character too. She dresses very uh goth and emo

705
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Speaker 4: and almost pixiish if I were to describe it too.

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Speaker 1: Sure she she she.

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Speaker 4: Where all the bright colors, dark colors, you know, stuff

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Speaker 4: like that. And I don't know, I worried she would get,

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Speaker 4: you know, in some form of trouble on the Internet

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Speaker 4: or something she'd regrets.

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Speaker 1: Well, it says that you're It says here that she's

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Speaker 1: an Instagram influencer. What okay? So what kinds of the

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Speaker 1: Instagram content is she currently known for?

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Speaker 4: She's getting up there. I wouldn't say she's quite influencer yet.

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Speaker 1: Well, whether whether or not, you know, forgetting about like

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Speaker 1: audience size, Like what is she posting about? All right?

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Speaker 4: Herself? Make up a lot about my cats are cats,

718
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Speaker 4: a lot of clothing, and you know, whatever she finds

719
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Speaker 4: appealing to herself too, Like she'll post two little artworks,

720
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Speaker 4: some creepy artworks, you know, whatever stuff she'll draw. You know,

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Speaker 4: she'll post yourself in an outfit with some makeup on,

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Speaker 4: do a little look or something.

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Speaker 1: M okay.

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Speaker 4: But and she's she's very good at it too. So

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Speaker 4: that's why I'm on the fence too, because I believe

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Speaker 4: if she did do it, and she did it right,

727
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Speaker 4: she could do very well. And that's another series she

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Speaker 4: does do very well. That's a lot of attention.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Sure, what's the relationship like with your.

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Speaker 4: Mom, wonderful. I love her to death. I how'd say

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Speaker 4: she's one of the closest people to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, Armando, here's what I'll say is uh,

733
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Speaker 1: and I don't know if I'm going to tell you

734
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Speaker 1: anything you don't already know, But like your mom, here's

735
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Speaker 1: the thing. You're eighteen years old. Your mom is her own, independent,

736
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Speaker 1: adult person who uh similar to how if if you

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Speaker 1: were to make some sort of decision with your life,

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Speaker 1: I would tell you that your mom's opinion on the

739
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Speaker 1: decision that you make with your life is irrelevant, you know,

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Speaker 1: because it's your life and you're the one that has

741
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Speaker 1: to live in and your mom can't influence you and

742
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Speaker 1: shouldn't influence you. I would say the same thing right back.

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Speaker 1: You know, your mom's her own person, she's living her

744
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Speaker 1: own life, and uh, there's there's there's really nothing that

745
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Speaker 1: you can do about that except uh. You knows, as

746
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Speaker 1: you're saying that you're you're you're very close with her,

747
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Speaker 1: that you love her and you know, you guys have

748
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Speaker 1: a great relationship. All you can kind of really do

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Speaker 1: is uh, you know, be supportive of her and be

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Speaker 1: there for her. Uh, you know, it'd be I think

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Speaker 1: it'd be one thing if you had, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever genuine concerns for like her safety, Uh, that that

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Speaker 1: you wanted to air to her, you know. But at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, uh, you have to just

755
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Speaker 1: embrace it, whatever she decides to do with her life,

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Speaker 1: because it's not it's not up to you. It's just

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Speaker 1: in the same just in the same way that you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want her telling you what you can and can't

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Speaker 1: do with your life.

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Speaker 4: Right, how do you feel like that? I was starting

761
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Speaker 4: to you know, I am. I am leaning more towards that,

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Speaker 4: and I do honestly believe that is the right thing

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Speaker 4: to do, and I think it's probably what I'll end

764
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Speaker 4: up doing. I just got to get over these you know,

765
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: internal fears and anxiety is over. You know what's gonna happen,

766
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Speaker 4: not even to me, but for her.

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Speaker 2: Sure, So I guess if she's prepared for it.

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Speaker 4: I should, you know, just embrace them, be like, okay,

769
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Speaker 4: you know, do what you want.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, it's funny because it's this really is

771
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Speaker 1: like I'm really looking at this from the flip side

772
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Speaker 1: as well, Like if the roles were reversed it feels

773
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Speaker 1: very much like a similar situation where like, again, if

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Speaker 1: you were to go do OnlyFans, do poor, and do

775
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: whatever thing with your life that your mom disapproves of.

776
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, her intentions, as your intentions would

777
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Speaker 1: be for you to be safe, for you to you know,

778
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: be well what you say, all right, oh, interrupting you

779
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Speaker 1: talking to a person about your job.

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Speaker 4: No, no you're not.

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Speaker 1: I forget what I was saying. But either way, I

782
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Speaker 1: think that you have to just embrace the fact that

783
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Speaker 1: no part of the situation is within your control or

784
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: is dependent on any sort of input from you, just

785
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Speaker 1: as you would want to have the agency away from

786
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Speaker 1: your mom to make your own decisions with your life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I completely agree, and I think I think

788
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Speaker 4: that's how I do feel down. I do feel like,

789
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Speaker 4: you know, she can make her own choice and she

790
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 4: definitely is able to, and I believe she is, you know.

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Speaker 4: And also she's not even sure what type of content

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Speaker 4: she would like to help.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, oh no, go ahead hit me with

794
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Speaker 1: the other thing.

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Speaker 4: No, that was basically she doesn't even know what she

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Speaker 4: would want to coach. She was running ideas through me,

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Speaker 4: and she actually wanted to get some suggestions from you,

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Speaker 4: like what would what do you think would be the market?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll say this, your mom's your own person, blah blah,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. I said. Uh, if if I were

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Speaker 1: you and I were uncomfortable with being a part of

802
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: the creative process of your mom's only fans, I would

803
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: understand that feeling. It's a very valid feeling to not

804
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: want to be involved in that creative process. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I okay, well, I'm really quick though. I'm now I

806
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: feel like now's a good time to ask about the

807
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Speaker 1: peanut butter pictures.

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Speaker 4: What is that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That was one of the ideas she was running through me.

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Speaker 4: Was so there, apparently there's one chick on there right

812
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 4: now who is selling peanut butteres. Okay, and she has about,

813
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 4: you know, five thousand subs each ten dollars each, making

814
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Speaker 4: about fifty thousand a year.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good money.

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Speaker 4: And she was running that with me saying, hey, that's

817
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Speaker 4: a that's a market there.

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Speaker 1: Okay. How do you feel when your mom is running

819
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Speaker 1: How do you feel when your mom is running creative

820
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: ideas for her only fans by you?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 4: Not terrible? I guess I'm used to it at this point,

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Speaker 4: I would say, but also she's down, it's a little weird.

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Speaker 1: Well, uh, listen, Armando, you know, look, good luck to

825
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: you with whatever it is that you do in your life.

826
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Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that you have a good relationship

827
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Speaker 1: with your mom. That's a that's a that's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you ever do feel uncomfortable with her running content

830
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Speaker 1: ideas by you, you should feel free to let her

831
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Speaker 1: know that you can be like, hey, listen, mom, I

832
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: support your decision to do only fans, but I would

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Speaker 1: like to have no personal involvement in that whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to see she's she's raised me pretty weird,

835
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Speaker 4: I'd say, she's always been a unique but great mother.

836
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 4: So I think you know now with all the jokes

837
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 4: she's cracked me being younger and stuff. Now it's it's

838
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: partly partly used to it.

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Speaker 1: You want to say to you? Is there anything you

840
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: want to say to the people of the computer before

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Speaker 1: we go?

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00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 4: Uh? No, not that I can say other than I

843
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 4: love you, Thank you for calling Amanda. Yeah, no problem too.

844
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: I like really want to know what his mom's OnlyFans is.

845
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: But I'm I was going to ask him, because that's

846
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: just that's just not cool. That's just not a thing

847
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: you can really ask people. You really can't politely ask

848
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: somebody the link to their mom's only fans. You have

849
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: to go find that independently. Spencer, Hello, Gek, how are you.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good?

851
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 5: How are you?

852
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Speaker 1: I'm hanging out. I'm a little I think I'm a

853
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: little brain fogged, but you know, try my best to person. Oh,

854
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. It's probably chemicals. You know,

855
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: everyone's like trying to figure out how to be you know,

856
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: I saw sell chemicals. It's gone on to you.

857
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I'm doing good, just hanging out, Spencer.

858
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: It says here that you're obsessed with minions.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Oh tell me about that. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: elaborate on it. I I just started, like like I

861
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 5: watched the movies and stuff, and I thought they were good.

862
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 5: But then like just minions started to pop up like everywhere,

863
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 5: like even at like Walmart and stuff, so like I

864
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Speaker 5: would just buy everything.

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Speaker 3: And now you have judge for it.

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Speaker 1: You have a genuine affinity for the minions.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's it's really bizarre.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's true that I'm kind of conscious about it too.

869
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Speaker 1: Why, well, why are you sub conscious about it?

870
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 5: You know, it started off as a joke, but now

871
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 5: I think people are realizing that, like this isn't a

872
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 5: joke anymore, you know.

873
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Well, so why are you ashamed then to

874
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: like what you like?

875
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 3: You know?

876
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 5: I I really don't know, but like, I don't wear

877
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 5: my Minions T shirt in public too much?

878
00:50:58,960 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: You know?

879
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 5: Do you?

880
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: I watch that you do you wish that you have

881
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 1: the courage to wear your Minions T shirt in public?

882
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: In public?

883
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 5: Yeah all the time. Yeah.

884
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: H when's the last time you wore your Minions T

885
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: shirt in public?

886
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 5: It had to have been like two months ago? And

887
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 5: I like, I don't know, I'm like looking around and stuff,

888
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 5: and I can see that people are, you know, looking

889
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 5: at me, you know, and it's a shame, you know.

890
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: You know, man, I feel like you shouldn't be ashamed

891
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: to like the Minions because look, these are a little

892
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: green guy. What they're yellow? These little yellow guys there,

893
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: They exist because people find value in them. That's why

894
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: the franchisees is worth millions of dollars. And if the

895
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: people around you cannot find value in the Minions, then

896
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: that is due to a fault in their own perception,

897
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: or if not a fault, a difference in their perception

898
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: then in yours. And if the world were made of

899
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: people who all have the same perception, then it would

900
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 1: be a very very boring world.

901
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 3: I agree.

902
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: So you should wear the Minions T shirt.

903
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not quite there yet, but I'm hoping I

904
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 5: will get there.

905
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: You know, what do you think would get you there?

906
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 5: I honestly don't know, because now it's becoming like less

907
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 5: trendy and like you see less and less Minion stuff

908
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: out there, so now like it's a little weirder now

909
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 5: to start wearing it.

910
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: Like I feel like, I.

911
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, are you wearing this stuff because you

912
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: genuinely like the Minions or because it's, as you say, trendy.

913
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 5: Oh it's definitely not like I meant trendy in the

914
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 5: way of like it's just everywhere like at Walmart and stuff.

915
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 5: I don't really think it's really trendy to wear Minion stuff,

916
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 5: you know, not yet at least.

917
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: M Well, then I feel like it's on. It's the

918
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: onus could be on you, Spencer to start the trend.

919
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 5: I'm really hoping to. I think I will start going

920
00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 5: for it.

921
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 1: Okay, good good, Yeah, that's that's that's that's what that's

922
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: what I needed to hear. That's what I want from you, Spencer.

923
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: That's what I want from you. It's to start the trend,

924
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: you know. You know, because i've Spencer, I I I

925
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 1: just can hear from you that that you're you're going

926
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: along with the Williams of wherever other people are are

927
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: going and doing, you know, and and that can only

928
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: last you for so long until you need to until

929
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: you need to break free from the chains. Spencer. Yeah,

930
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: break free from the chains and start following your own

931
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: path whatever that looks like.

932
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's you know, that's exactly what I wanted, like

933
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 5: needed to hear. You know. I appreciate it.

934
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: Of course. Thank you for calling, Spencer, No problem, have

935
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: a good one.

936
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 3: Hello. Hello, uh hi, Hi, this is Jack right.

937
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, who am I? Who am I speaking with?

938
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 5: Oh?

939
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: My name is Paloma, Paloma Ploma. It's nice to talk

940
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: to you. I normally uh screened the calls before uh

941
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: talking to them, so I have an idea of what

942
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: people want to talk about, but I decided I decided

943
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: to go in raw with this one.

944
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 3: Cool do you have a topic that you want to

945
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 3: talk about or I.

946
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: Was just about to ask you, Paloma, if you had

947
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: a topic that you wanted to talk about.

948
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. So my mom is convinced that she has visions,

949
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: and I.

950
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: Want to, oh, like like supernatural visions. Yeah, okay, what

951
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: kind of supernatural visions? Interesting of the future? Okay, So

952
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 1: tell me what your mom. Tell me what your mom

953
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: sees when she looks into the future.

954
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 3: Oh, she is convinced that I'm gonna have two children

955
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 3: one day and that I'm gonna fall in love when

956
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: I'm older. I don't know who is. My sister says

957
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 3: that she usually gets stuff with her correct. So I'm like,

958
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: is this going to be my future? I don't know.

959
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: I'm not fully convinced.

960
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: M Okay, do you believe in uh this sort of

961
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: woo woo clairvoyance sort of stuff or are you are

962
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: you skeptical?

963
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 3: I'm very skeptical.

964
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: Okay, And does let me ask you, does these visions

965
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: that your mom claim to have do they in any

966
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: way affect your relationship with her?

967
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 3: Honestly a little bit. Not in this sense that she's

968
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 3: saying anything wrong, just in the sense that I'm kind

969
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: of worried for her.

970
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: You know, why are you worried for her?

971
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: Because I feel like she's really into like crystals and

972
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 3: tuning forwards and just all things mystic and I think

973
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 3: she is putting herself in this into this world so

974
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 3: much because she's avoiding something or she doesn't know what

975
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: either the truth is and she's just scared of something.

976
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 3: I'm not sure you say.

977
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: It's interesting to hear you say this because you could

978
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: kind of say that about a lot of things. You

979
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: could say that about religion, you could say that about

980
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: following a football team, you could say that about working,

981
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: and you can say that about anything that you're using

982
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: it as a distraction for, you know, whatever is underneath.

983
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: M I think I'm more partial because me and my

984
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 3: mom are ex Mormons, my dad and sisters Mormons. But

985
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 3: I I just don't believe in anything religious or skeptical

986
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: because I think it's just like keeping you from the

987
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: truth of the matter of the world. You know, But

988
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: I think it's more cut and dry than what people

989
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 3: think believe.

990
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: Well, what do you believe is the truth of the

991
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,439
Speaker 1: matter of the world?

992
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 3: Hmmm? I think live and we try best and we die.

993
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so do you think that your mom is avoiding that,

994
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: I think so. So Well, here's the thing is, I

995
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: don't know if you need to be concerned with your mom, because,

996
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: luckily for you, luckily for her, lots and lots and

997
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: lots and lots and lots of people have lived healthy,

998
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: fine lives believing their entire time in some crazy shit. So,

999
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: you know, unless if she's joining some sort of suicide

1000
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: doom cult, it sounds like her safety is in order.

1001
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: And when you're talking about, oh, she's doing certain things

1002
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: to avoid looking at certain truths, it's like, well, you

1003
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: know who is also doing that is almost every human

1004
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: being alive. What do you think I'm doing here on

1005
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: Twitch talking to people in a gecko costume.

1006
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 3: I mean, you do have a point. We're all just

1007
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 3: distracting ourselves for something.

1008
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean, look, your mom is, your mom's

1009
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: got a thing. It's the same thing. I wouldn't look

1010
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: at her believing in crystals and ship as anything, you

1011
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: know more than you know, like, is any different from

1012
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: her just joining a book club or something like that,

1013
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, just another thing to distract yourself from from

1014
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: forever empty.

1015
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 3: I guess I've never really thought of it. Like that,

1016
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 3: because me and my friends are just like this is

1017
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 3: so strange and so foreign to us that it's just

1018
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 3: just so weird.

1019
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you and your friends do and say

1020
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: a lot of things that your mom probably looks at

1021
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: and goes this is very strange and foreign to me.

1022
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, probably.

1023
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: But I mean, look, I think I think it's glad

1024
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: that you're concerned for your mom. It means that you

1025
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: give a shit. But she'll probably be fine again, unless

1026
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: if she's joining some sort of weird death call to

1027
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: if she starts like protesting at abortion clinics or anything

1028
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: weird like that, she's probably fine.

1029
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, she hasn't gotten to that point yet.

1030
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: Uh what did you say? Name was Paloma? That's a

1031
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: good name. Is there anything else you want to say

1032
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: to the computer? Poloma?

1033
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 3: Oh?

1034
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: I do have a question, hit man.

1035
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 3: Are you are you gonna do get dates still? Because

1036
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 3: I loved those?

1037
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: Uh? I want to do get Dad. It's just a

1038
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: lot of like work to curate, and I don't have

1039
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: the time to do that right now, but eventually I

1040
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: will maybe awesome possibly Thanks for calling Plumber all.

1041
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 3: Right, love you gut ooh ooh there Ken.

1042
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.

1043
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 4: The rep can goes to on his eye. He's teaching

1044
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 4: you to house in.

1045
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: The mid of your life. Money's not really an expert.