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Speaker 2: Let's do it live on a first Friday Miracle edition

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Speaker 2: He is the great z Gibbe is here you guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is just one vacation after another. The

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Speaker 2: end of this summer for you guys. A full week

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Speaker 2: at a five star resort in West Virginia. Now a

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Speaker 2: full week in the City of Brotherly Law, SPA like locations,

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Speaker 2: five star meals ordering with the Hoff style plates for

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Speaker 2: the table. What did last night have in store for you,

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Speaker 2: my friends?

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're talking about a spot, can we

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Speaker 3: just talk about me jumping in the river then right

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Speaker 3: next door?

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Speaker 4: I mean he went right at you for that. He

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Speaker 4: did not appreciate that opening give it. It was just

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Speaker 4: like this is not you and the great z No,

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Speaker 4: I'm going no.

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Speaker 5: I got this.

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Speaker 4: He's at the end of his line. I knew I

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Speaker 4: didn't even have to say anything. He was as soon

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Speaker 4: as he started talking. He starts shaking his head. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm not having that.

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Speaker 2: It's been a campus, boys, it's been a lot.

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Speaker 4: Part of it is good in the sense that, you know,

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Speaker 4: we're this far into it already. You know, we got

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Speaker 4: the game tomorrow night, and then just one more preseason

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Speaker 4: game and that'll be it at the end of four

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Speaker 4: preseason games. So a month in some ways has kind

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Speaker 4: of gone by very quickly due to the change in

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Speaker 4: the scenery. But it has, it's been it's been a lot.

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Speaker 4: I think it's been good for the team though. I

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Speaker 4: think it's been good for them bonding, and ultimately that's what's,

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Speaker 4: you know, the most important part for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 4: But I think the benefit is that this has gone

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Speaker 4: by so much more quickly than it would have if

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Speaker 4: everything that we have done at this point happened in Berea,

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Speaker 4: it would have felt like a slog. So at least

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Speaker 4: it's going through. You're just busy all the time, Greenber.

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Speaker 4: You come back half weekend, boom, Washington game, Boom Sunday,

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Speaker 4: you leave for Philly Philly games tomorrow already, and then

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Speaker 4: you know, then we'll have kind of, you know a

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Speaker 4: little bit of a normalcy, you know, a couple of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna go by quick. I think probably next week.

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Speaker 2: You know, when the team gets back, that will be

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Speaker 2: probably the biggest I mean, it's clearly gonna be the

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Speaker 2: and that's the one that will have the most anticipation

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Speaker 2: because that's the one where you know, coach said that

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Speaker 2: you're going to see the most of our guys will

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Speaker 2: see a little bit of that. So that'll be your

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Speaker 2: you know, dress rehearsal as it were. What you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get tomorrow is very similar to the Hall of Fame game, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, tomorrow is going to be very much like that.

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Speaker 4: It's up the different story in Thompson Robinson will start,

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's.

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Speaker 4: Nobody of people that you're going to be counting on

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Speaker 4: None of them will be playing. Nobody will be participating

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Speaker 4: a good start, and that continued obviously for Dewan Jones yesterday.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you're not going to see it's going to

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Speaker 4: Upgainst Luke Whippler again as we saw last year. But

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Speaker 2: I think the hardest that everyone's still figuring out what

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Speaker 2: So it's almost like nobody really knows exactly how to

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Speaker 2: that Hall of Fame game feel out of both teams.

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Speaker 2: Let's not bury the lead here. We counter on these

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Speaker 2: You guys are in Philly back here, panic about the

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Speaker 2: end of this practice yesterday, panic inside it in the

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Speaker 2: overall kind of won the practice. But the sense this

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Speaker 4: That's insane. It's insane. You wanted to come here for

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Speaker 4: these two its. That doesn't make it a less insane.

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Speaker 4: You came here for these two days to find out

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Speaker 4: was a barometer and measuring stick. We're absolutely on the

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Speaker 4: level of the Eagles. Deteck to anybody who covers the Eagles,

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Speaker 4: they said that definitively that the Prows yesterday on the show.

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Speaker 4: It's a completely different team. Everybody knows that. Spadera knows that,

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Speaker 4: the esp knows it, all of them what we did.

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Speaker 4: I was talking with Jeff Kerr from CBS. Everybody sees it.

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Speaker 4: We're a completely different team. We're absolutely on their level,

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Speaker 4: and they're the best the NFC has to offer and

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Speaker 4: us now, we by all accounts ours and Philadelphia's won

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Speaker 4: I'm okay with that, and I'm gonna give you a

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Speaker 4: I think everybody was feeling better for our offense went

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Speaker 4: and so people were obviously unhappy about that, and it

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Speaker 4: to me, it doesn't even it's great, not serious, whatever

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Speaker 4: I came here to know is are we on the reel?

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Speaker 4: Are we on the level of the Eagles? Can we

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Speaker 4: match their talent? The answer to that was yes with definitively,

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Speaker 4: like not even a question. Now, it ended the way

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Speaker 4: weren't supposed to be a finished product yet. Think about that.

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Speaker 4: They're a year into being a finished product.

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Speaker 5: We're not.

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Speaker 4: We're still ascending. And I think that the way that

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Speaker 5: On our team.

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Speaker 4: Miles wasn't out there, you know, Elijah wasn't out there, Joel,

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Speaker 4: the end of the team period. I don't think it

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Speaker 5: Matter, irregardless.

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Speaker 4: I like that it ended that way because if let's

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Speaker 4: blah blah blah ah, the Browns team dominates it. That

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Speaker 4: would be awesome, that would have been great, great outcome.

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Speaker 4: But I kind of like that they left accomplishing everything

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Speaker 4: We did a little bit of a bitter taste in

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Speaker 4: smelling yourself like this is going to be easy. We

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Speaker 4: with them, And that's all I was hoping to get

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Speaker 4: We're not on their level, then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking this season might not be in any way,

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Speaker 5: It's all there.

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Speaker 4: I fully believe that this team has every opportunity to

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Speaker 4: to be a dominant football team and a team that

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Speaker 4: can win the AFC North and compete for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Our defense is going to be a problem, you know,

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Speaker 4: the Eagles defense is a problem. But I think you

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Speaker 4: got everything you wanted out of this. It just didn't

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Speaker 4: end the way that I think everybody wanted, and you

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Speaker 4: might you wanted to see maybe a little bit more

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Speaker 4: Deshaun in terms of consistency, but overall like you came

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Speaker 4: out there being like we took it to them at times,

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Speaker 4: and Deshaun made a lot of.

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Speaker 5: Great throws, by the way, great throws.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was very happy with it. I think it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, in a way, if you

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Speaker 2: if you had the context of who they are, who

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Speaker 2: you're trying to be the show that we had yesterday

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Speaker 2: talking about the physicality we you talked about it, Hoff

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Speaker 2: you had me at hello. Could you match them physically?

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Speaker 4: He said something to the official and the official was laughing,

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Speaker 5: That's it. That's all I knew was what we came Yes, right,

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Speaker 4: me drove home that point. Everybody's focusing on basically five

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Speaker 2: It's just because we're word and the preseason games don't count,

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Speaker 2: to be fair, we set this up this way like,

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Speaker 4: Was answered fifteen minutes into the first practice that there

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Speaker 3: Spanaro said it to me off the air, and it's

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Speaker 5: Talent you have.

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Speaker 4: That's the NFL, that's the National Football League. That's what

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Speaker 2: So funny you say that, because that's exactly what My

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Speaker 4: Right, I'm curious, what did Spierdaro say that, you know,

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Speaker 2: To be fair. I didn't talk about Jalen because we weren't.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing, you know, pressure makes it hard for

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Speaker 5: But this it was true of Jalen.

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Speaker 2: One of the funny things that was I saw a

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Speaker 5: He was good?

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Speaker 2: Was driving me nuts. This is dumb, Like we know

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Speaker 2: he's like a prize Browns spotted like all day.

435
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,120
Speaker 5: He is prized.

436
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like then and.

437
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,440
Speaker 3: Then there's then the guy said no, no, and then

438
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 3: the guy said, Hey, here's Monday, Monday, hold my beer.

439
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 5: Welcome to Tuesday.

440
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 2: Night, right, give it to me, Give it to me.

441
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: Tuesday we went.

442
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 4: We went to Amada, which is a Spanish top of

443
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 4: the style toper runt and as you imagine, with a

444
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,640
Speaker 4: lot of small plates, and the best was they would

445
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 4: bring two of everything. There were four of us that

446
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 4: it was me, uh, the hof Gibbet and a big

447
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 4: l luminary enormous el and the second biggest dinner, second

448
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 4: biggest dell.

449
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 5: Okay, that was the four of us.

450
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 4: Gibbet and the luminary were on one side, Me and

451
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 4: the half were on the other. And they would bring

452
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 4: out like two plates of everything and me and Hop's

453
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 4: plate would be gone in like five seconds.

454
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 5: And then pretty soon we.

455
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 4: Made our way onto their plate to like clean up

456
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 4: whatever was left on their blades, which was hilarious. They

457
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 4: brought out I don't know, it felt like twenty different things.

458
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 5: We signed up for the nine course meal.

459
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, nic nic course of meal, let's he added, and

460
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 4: then we added four courses on top of that that

461
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 4: we said we definitely want these mean Joe and Nathan,

462
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 4: oh yes, you two were all you wanted the pepper whatever.

463
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 4: That one thing was okay, which I'm not sure we got.

464
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, I recollect.

465
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: How could you keep You're talking about thirteen then the courses?

466
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 4: The best is, we said, the bottom of the menu,

467
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 4: they have a seventy two hour notice you needed to give.

468
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 5: We didn't see it. But they do a whole suckling pig.

469
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, a decadent.

470
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 4: So I said to the waiter and he the waiter

471
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 4: was the waiter like and he was enjoying our stylings

472
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 4: and he uh, I said, hey, do you guys have

473
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 4: maybe like a seventy two minute suckling pig so we

474
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 4: don't have the three days here? And he said no.

475
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 4: He said, well you should order this one. It's you know,

476
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 4: it's similar, even though it's not the actual suckling pig.

477
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 4: So we were like, okay, fine, comes back and he goes,

478
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: I've got bad news, but I've got good news. The

479
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 4: bad news is we don't have that particular por dish

480
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 4: that I recommended as a substitute for the suckling pig.

481
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 4: The good news is chef said he's got a suckling

482
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 4: pig back there, and he's gonna give you.

483
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 5: Guys, like a hind quarter.

484
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: Oh baby.

485
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 4: So we got the let it was and it was

486
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 4: on this white bean puret. It was massive, the skin

487
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 4: was so it was insanely good. So we had another.

488
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,360
Speaker 4: We had, yeah, an unbelievable meal. And then we had

489
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 4: this like I don't even know how to describe that

490
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 4: cheesecake because it wasn't cheesecake. It was because I don't

491
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 4: love cheesecake. It was amazing, an amazing dessert. The Brussels sprouts, Oh,

492
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 4: the Brussels sprouts. Yeah, brush about those lamb what about

493
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 4: those little lamb puff pastries, those lamb like triangle pastries.

494
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

495
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 4: Great, this place with this, I would give it if

496
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 4: you're coming to Philly and you want to just eat

497
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,479
Speaker 4: something that's different. All the flavors were good. They had

498
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 4: great Spanish wines. We had some of that. The hof

499
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 4: orders of Pilsner with everything else. So he starts cocktails

500
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 4: wine but also has pilsners at all times. These things

501
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: would be gone in one second point where he finds like,

502
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 4: I just bring two, and then they came up and

503
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 4: they're like, we think you like tapped our keg, But

504
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 4: he did.

505
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 5: It was empty.

506
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 2: It was second inst the Hoff.

507
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 4: But I said to him, what was so stunning is

508
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 4: when I was in college, there was a place called

509
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 4: Russans in Atlanta, which was where I was kind of

510
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 4: introduced to sushi. And when I say this, now, granted

511
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 4: it was you know in late nineteen nineties. You know

512
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 4: there they had maybe ten rolls on the menu, basic

513
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 4: stuff CALIFORNI year roll like you know too, in a

514
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: roll this that whatever they where, You got three pieces

515
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 4: for a dollar.

516
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

517
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 4: Back in the good old days, gas was seventy cents

518
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 4: at the time.

519
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 5: God, we lived our best lives, boy did we.

520
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 4: People used to come with me to Russans because I'd

521
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 4: order like seventy pieces of sushi for twenty bucks or

522
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 4: you know, like twenty three bucks, and then I would

523
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 4: house it and people come to like watch me do it.

524
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 4: And then they'd be like, but we've been talking this

525
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 4: whole time. I've been talking with your mouthful. And then

526
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: they look down they be like, where's all your sushi?

527
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 4: Where to go? And that's what I felt like with

528
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 4: the Hoff last night, Like I don't think I ever

529
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 4: saw him actually take a sip of the beers. They

530
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 4: were just always gone, Yeah, he was talking and Gage

531
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 4: were having a great time, but they were just gone, like, right,

532
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 4: did you ever notice him like actually pick it up

533
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 4: and take it? Was just like there was there and

534
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 4: then he'd be like, yeah, I need another one.

535
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 5: They're like wait what. It was incredible?

536
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: What a treat? What are a gold jacket performance out

537
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: of the hoff?

538
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 5: Oh? Totally.

539
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: And we were able to walk to this place and

540
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: it was really cool. We walked by a tavern that

541
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 4: was established in seventeen thirty three and is still a

542
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 4: tavern today in Philadelphia.

543
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 5: Nice and we walked right by. They had a huge

544
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 5: I don't know if I went there last night or.

545
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 4: Not stone in the ground that said this was the

546
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 4: foundation stone or whatever of William Penn's first house in

547
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: seventeen oh one and where like the government was at

548
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 4: the very beginning of That's cool pennsylvani So yeah, a

549
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 4: lot of history here.

550
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 5: It's very cool. Yeah, great meal.

551
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: Again, I think everybody was feeling it a little bit

552
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 4: this morning.

553
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: But I go, now, I like, a we did that

554
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: when we were stuck in DC this summer. We ate

555
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: a Jose Andres's place, his original restaurant in DC, and

556
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: it was the same thing, like anytime there's a However,

557
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,239
Speaker 2: many core chef thing at those joints. Give me that,

558
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 2: do it? You know what you're doing, like bring it

559
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 2: to me. You don't even know what you're eating half

560
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 2: the time. And everything tastes different, like it's different flavors.

561
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. I like that whole operation.

562
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: That's a big win.

563
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had, yeah, the Brussels, we had those lamb things,

564
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 4: I mean the suckling pig. When that came out, that

565
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 4: was that was the start of the show.

566
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 5: That was one of the coolest things I've ever eaten.

567
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 5: It was unreal.

568
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: All Right, So you've got tonight and then tomorrow and

569
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: then you guys are staying over Friday night too.

570
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 4: Right, he's about to reach through this zoom. Don't play

571
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 4: with his he's on the I would, I don't, I

572
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: can't even.

573
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 2: You want to go home, You want to get in

574
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: your mower, your zero turn, you want to have a

575
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: few pops, sleep in your own bed, play with the dogs.

576
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 5: It's time. That is the problem.

577
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: Like I do not sleep well in hotels, like say,

578
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 3: average probably six hours a night.

579
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's not great.

580
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 4: And by the way that it's like the light from

581
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 4: the hall comes through these doors, like, yeah, outrageous. No,

582
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 4: it's gotta be ba yes, right, it's gotta be a blackout.

583
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 5: Not so.

584
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: But if that were to happen, if they were to

585
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: tell us on Thursday night, hey, we gotta stay there's

586
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: a there's a plane issue weather one night, I would

587
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: be like, well, this is on brand for how the

588
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: month is going. Let's roll with it. I'm fairly confident

589
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: the man next to me might rent a car and drive.

590
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 5: Through the Yeah, I would for sure. There's no way

591
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 5: for he is spending another night.

592
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 4: No, I've had a great time. Listen, we had a

593
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 4: couple of great it's been that part of it's been.

594
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 4: It's been great.

595
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been good. It's just it's been tough. You know,

596
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: the internet here not great. Are there is the workspace

597
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 3: that we were in yesterday and the day before at practice.

598
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: I mean we're in the dirt. We're in the dirt

599
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: with the table.

600
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 5: And it was one hundred and eighty degrees. It was

601
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 5: very warm. It was so hot, so hot.

602
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: Like it's you know, I'm getting back to people today.

603
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 3: People are like, hey, I haven't heard from you all week,

604
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: Like email, I'm like it's because there's it's impossible.

605
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. Is not easy to reply to anything

606
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 5: right now.

607
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 2: So in terms of our team, they've got a walk

608
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: through today at Penn yep, yep, right now, right now,

609
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 2: So that's happening right now, and then they will will

610
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: play the game tomorrow. How far is Penn from where

611
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: you guys are?

612
00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 3: So on the on the agenda, you know, on our

613
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: schedule it says when the team left and some arriving

614
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: at Penn, it's like twenty minutes.

615
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, fifteen to twenty minutes. Yeah.

616
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 2: I've never obviously never been to Philly. I'm always intrigued

617
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: by like those old IVY League like stadiums because they've

618
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: been around for one hundred and twenty years.

619
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: They're all old school. I wonder penses as well. Well,

620
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: we were we were talking about it at lunch. Did

621
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 3: you bring it up?

622
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 5: No, But they're going to the old arena after So

623
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 5: the arena on campus was the home of this.

624
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 4: We have a lot of people who were saying things

625
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: not definitively, but that may be possible. But that's like

626
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 4: where Will Chamberlain scored his hundred points was in that arena.

627
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 5: I don't know.

628
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: I thought that was in Hershey where he did that?

629
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 5: See?

630
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: See, I say things are said without a lot of confidence.

631
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: Nobody is interesting.

632
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 5: The very famous basketball arena.

633
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: Well, the Plestra, the polesters in Philly.

634
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 5: Yes, that's where they're going. That's what.

635
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yeah, that's where they played the Big Five games,

636
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: LaSalle and Temple and Duquaane?

637
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 5: Is it Ducuane?

638
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: No, that's Pittsburgh. Uh's LaSalle, Temple. I can't Penn Villanova.

639
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: I can't remember who the fifth is. But they would

640
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: play the Big Five games in the Polester. The Polester

641
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: is a legendary barn, legendary.

642
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where they're That's where they're going. And I

643
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: think they were doing some kind of shoot around or

644
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 3: something there, just to mix it up a little bit.

645
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you're gonna need to write like it's you.

646
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 5: Probably The hard thing is Yeah.

647
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: The thing that's interesting is like if you're a starter,

648
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: like what you came here to.

649
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 5: Do is done.

650
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: You're not really doing anything again until Saturday, right, sure?

651
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, they got to you gotta keep them entertaining.

652
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: Then the guys that are playing for their lives, they

653
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 4: have to do it by the way. Give me come

654
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Speaker 4: look out this window. This I've noted. These things are

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Speaker 4: crawling up the wall outside my room. To boy, the

656
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Speaker 4: most absurd looking beetle. It's it's right there. Oh yeah, no,

657
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Speaker 4: thank you. It's like two.

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Speaker 5: Inches ginormous that it's scales. It's scaling. I mean we're

659
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Speaker 5: seven or seventy eighty feet in the air. Yeah, that

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Speaker 5: ends poorly, hopefully you can fly.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't feel ideal. But the Big Five is penn LaSalle

662
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Speaker 2: Saint Joe's Temple in Villanova. Oh those are that's your

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Speaker 2: Big Five? And the Polesters where those where?

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Speaker 5: That? So?

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Speaker 4: What's what happened at the Polestra like back in the

666
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Speaker 4: day the Sixers ever play there?

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Speaker 5: Or was that fake news?

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Speaker 2: I just know it from the legendary you know, the

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Speaker 2: legendary college basketball is what I know it from. It's

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Speaker 2: it's one of the cathedrals of college BASKETBA. In fact,

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Speaker 2: I think it's called the Cathedral of college basketball. The

672
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Speaker 2: building's awesome, the whole thing. I'm trying to think if

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Speaker 2: they're let me pull it up here quickly. Yeah, all

674
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Speaker 2: the Big Five, Like I said, it's recently been renovated.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just historically, Zee, just historically, it's just

676
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Speaker 2: a monster in the history of basketball. It's just one

677
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Speaker 2: of the places. It's often called the birthplace of college basketball. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

678
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Speaker 2: it's pretty good.

679
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Speaker 5: It's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it'd be fun place. Like I guarantee

681
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: you go in there and shoot, well, like if you

682
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Speaker 2: went and got shot up, you get you're gonna knock

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Speaker 2: him down.

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Speaker 3: And then I think he's doing that. Then I think

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Speaker 3: it's a little pizza party. Okay, had pizza place. Does

686
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Speaker 3: he have a little juice to him over there, coach, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think he. I think he's.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, but I think he's also trying to do

689
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Speaker 3: whatever he can to stay as focused as he can

690
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: because there's a distraction literally at every turn.

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Speaker 4: I think for him, I think I think today, like

692
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Speaker 4: we weren't around him today yet, but I bet today

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Speaker 4: he's probably I.

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Speaker 5: Saw him his father much more relaxed. Pops was in

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Speaker 5: the house.

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Speaker 6: All right.

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Speaker 2: We will hand out some awards from the first from

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Speaker 2: the two joint practices. Some game balls coming up. Also,

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Speaker 2: who the from the guys who are roster? Are they in?

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Speaker 2: Are they out? Who help themselves the most? This week

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Speaker 2: you'll hear from miles as well. We're often running on

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Speaker 2: give a game ball from joint practice this, who's the

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Speaker 2: one player on all three phases that has earned one?

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Speaker 5: My father is an English teacher and need to have

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Speaker 5: a problem with this. The phrasing of this.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like there is one player who is on all

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Speaker 4: three sides of the ball that has earned one.

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Speaker 5: Y grammar is important. Punctuations.

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Speaker 2: We changed to all three phases in real time. Well,

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Speaker 2: and you need I took out ball. I changed it

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Speaker 2: to all.

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Speaker 5: Three from college.

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Speaker 4: You need to say who is the player on each

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Speaker 4: of the three phases that is worthy of a game ball?

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Speaker 4: Meaning that we're going to give out three game balls

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Speaker 4: one to each phase.

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Speaker 2: As opposed to one guy who on a ball that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think there is. I don't think there is.

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Speaker 4: Somebody does all three offensively. I mean David a joke

729
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Speaker 4: who continues to be awesome. But I think I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: give it to Dewan Jones. I think Dwan Jones went

731
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Speaker 4: out there got reps working against Brandon Graham, the venerable

732
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Speaker 4: Brandon Graham more than held his own and has the

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Speaker 4: look of somebody. You know, Hoff was raving about him

734
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Speaker 4: last night and after he interviewed him on Training Camp Insider,

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Speaker 4: which is up on the Browns YouTube channel now, so

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Speaker 4: check that out. But Hoff was raving about him and

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Speaker 4: what he saw from Embaldinger's been raving about in Balding.

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Speaker 5: Or was that practice yesterday?

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Speaker 4: And one of the reasons he was there he wanted

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Speaker 4: to watch see Dewan Jones up close and personal. But

741
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Speaker 4: I think Dwan Jones will get my game ball. I

742
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: think that Browns may have found an absolute steel. And

743
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Speaker 4: you know, he's got no work at left tackle, and

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Speaker 4: you wonder if at any point he will, like will

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Speaker 4: he end up being the top backup tackle or is

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Speaker 4: it let's just keep him right now in his you know,

747
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Speaker 4: rookie season right tackle only, and you know, I think

748
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Speaker 4: that if not now, I feel like we're headed to

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Speaker 4: a place where if Jack Concklin were to miss regular

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Speaker 4: season time, that he might be the first guy up

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Speaker 4: at right tackle.

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Speaker 2: So that's noteworthy because yesterday coach was asked if who

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Speaker 2: you would see at right tackle with Conklin and concussion,

754
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Speaker 2: he said Hudson would be a guy over there. But

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Speaker 2: then yesterday's practice it seemed like Dewan jud just as much.

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Speaker 5: Is that fair? Yeah, especially over the second half.

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00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't know what that I don't know

758
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Speaker 4: that obviously changed on the fly, But I thought he

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Speaker 4: had a great accounting of himself.

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Speaker 2: It's huge, man. Yeah, that's a great would be an incredible bonus.

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Speaker 5: It would be incredible bonus. Definitely.

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Speaker 2: It was again, it was never talent, it was never ability.

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Speaker 2: It was just motivation dialed in all those things the

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Speaker 2: draft process We've talked about at nauseam. But that is monstrous,

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Speaker 2: the fact that he's performed the way that he has

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Speaker 2: and is in his off and running the way that

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Speaker 2: he is. How About on the defensive side.

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Speaker 4: I'd probably give the game ball to Zadarius Smith. But

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Speaker 4: you could give it to Obo, you could give it

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Speaker 4: to m j Emerson, you could give it.

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Speaker 5: To dn you could get I mean, you give to

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Speaker 5: a lot of people on the defense.

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Speaker 4: Frankly, I love the way McLeod, Thornhill, and Delpit are

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Speaker 4: all out there working together. But I'll go with Zadarius

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Speaker 4: Smith because it just jumped out. What a beast that

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Speaker 4: man is. You talk about up in our physicality, upping

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Speaker 4: our toughness, and he was a guy who was pissed

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Speaker 4: coming off the field after the end of the way

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Speaker 4: practice ended, but he was a force throughout the practices.

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Speaker 4: So I would give it to Zadarius because we were

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Speaker 4: able to be disruptive with our pass rush on day two.

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Speaker 4: Remember Miles Garrett did not participate in Day two in

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Speaker 4: any team periods. We were able to be disruptive still

784
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Speaker 4: because of him and Dalvin and Shelby Harrison Obo. Buta

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Speaker 4: Darius Smith is the real deal.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned McLeod. I wanted to circle back to him

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Speaker 2: in a second. Sometimes I think he's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a forgotten dude in terms of what he's capable of. Yes,

789
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Speaker 2: you know, delp at Thornhill, you know, but uh, McLeod,

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Speaker 2: I've heard you mentioned a couple times though, feels like

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Speaker 2: he could have a major role in this defense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna play that.

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Speaker 4: I think that big dime is gonna be something you

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Speaker 4: see a lot from us in passing situations where you

795
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Speaker 4: got McLeod delping Thornhill together and McLoud and those often

796
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Speaker 4: plays you know in the post plays kind of that

797
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Speaker 4: single high in the middle of the field observing everything.

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Speaker 4: What has been awesome in talking to some of the

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Speaker 4: young guys and even talking to their to the safety coach,

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Speaker 4: coach Banda, he's seen so much football that he he

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Speaker 4: he's able to get people in the right spots very

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Speaker 4: effectively because it feels like he knows what's.

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Speaker 5: Coming before it happens.

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Speaker 4: And I think that, you know, having him in this

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00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 4: defense has made Grant play faster, has made Thornhill play faster,

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Speaker 4: and I think we're gonna see that three safety look.

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Speaker 4: I think that's gonna be a big part of what

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00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 4: we do in in you know, third and long type

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00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 4: situations and in those obvious passing situations. I think there

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Speaker 4: are times, you know we're talking that's like a four

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Speaker 4: to one six I also think there'll be times where

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Speaker 4: where you know, we do our a five to one

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00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 4: five nickel as well, which we really haven't shown yet,

814
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Speaker 4: where we get the five down lineman, a five man

815
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Speaker 4: front much like the Eagles have one backer, and then

816
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: you got the three corners and two safeties. But there's

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: a lot of versatility for this this group and Rodney

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00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 4: McCleod his knowledge of the defense, the fact that he's

819
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Speaker 4: been playing so well, and he has been last year

820
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Speaker 4: was top five safety like period, like full stop at

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Speaker 4: Pro Football Focus Top five and Coverage top five overall.

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Speaker 4: So he is an incredible player who's had a long

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Speaker 4: and story career. Was he a teammate of your former Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You yeah, he's like, dude, that's he's my guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that. So he's yeah, he's been very impressive.

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Speaker 4: You heard nothing but great things. And it was cool.

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Speaker 4: You saw the way the Eagles organization just seeing him

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Speaker 4: where they responded to him as well, was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool in that In that big dime, is

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Speaker 2: that who is that linebacker that you think ideally they'd

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Speaker 2: want there.

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Speaker 4: It's been Kunashik for a little bit and we saw

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Speaker 4: j Ok but it could I think it could end

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Speaker 4: up being j okay, you know, a walk, depending on

835
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Speaker 4: you know, how his recovery goes talk, but j okay, Jordan,

836
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Speaker 4: I think it's any of those guys okay.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And how about special teams.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Kate Stield goals six for six from forty

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Speaker 4: five forty nine. I think in fifty four they were

841
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: all pumped right down the middle. Go do it in games,

842
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 4: but you know that was he knew it was going

843
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 4: to be documented and covered and so that's good. But

844
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Speaker 4: you gotta go do it in games. But you know,

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Speaker 4: Kate did a good job. Cory Bork has hits the

846
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: most unbelievable directional bombs. Watching it close and personal is wild.

847
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Speaker 4: He was doing it in some of the team drills too,

848
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Speaker 4: so you could to make it a case for him.

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Speaker 4: But I'll give it to Kate. He got all of

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Speaker 4: those six for six. Let's keep it rolling, all right.

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00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: Who who helped them themselves the most this week and

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00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: from it in terms of fighting for rosters that type

853
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: of stuff.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mentioned Dwan Jones.

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Speaker 4: You know you're talking about people who helped themselves, so maybe

856
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: you know, upping their role, giving them an opportunity.

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Speaker 5: I would say Dwan Jones.

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Speaker 4: I'd say Zier Mitchell Payden because right now we don't

859
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Speaker 4: know what's going on with Harrison Bryant. No, he's got

860
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 4: a health issue. We have not seen him in a

861
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Speaker 4: long time. He was not on this trip, at least

862
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Speaker 4: not to my knowledge. So you wonder at some point,

863
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Speaker 4: you know, is he going to be able to be

864
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Speaker 4: the third tight end? And if not, you know, Zier

865
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Speaker 4: Mitchell Payden you got as well. You know, Miller Forrest

866
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: all came back and had a great showing in that

867
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Speaker 4: game against Washington. But I think Zira Mitchell Payden has

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Speaker 4: helped himself out quite a bit. Yeah, so those would

869
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Speaker 4: be those would be the guys that go with We

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Speaker 4: know that, you know, Ronnie Hickman helped himself more than

871
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: anybody with his play against the Washington Commanders, and so

872
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 4: you want to see that. But there was not a

873
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 4: ton of you know, like DTR didn't get a rep

874
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 4: in these I would have loved to see DTR get

875
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: some reps, but that's just you know, he's gonna get

876
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 4: all the reps in the game.

877
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Thursdays for him, Monday and Thursdays for him for

878
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: the big the big guys at the top of the

879
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: food champ is the way that thing's gonna go.

880
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Speaker 5: All right.

881
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: Coming up next, we will go around the league. We

882
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: had another episode of Hard Knocks as well, and another

883
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: turn in the Michael Orer situation with the blind Side.

884
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: We get to all of that coming up next to

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Raven's corner Marlon Humphrey expected to miss about

893
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Speaker 2: a month with a foot injury. So that happened in

894
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: Ravens camp. This is just the time where it's like

895
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: you start to get these right, Like three weeks into camp,

896
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: you start to get an injury and it nags and

897
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: then who knows how long that you'll inevitably be out.

898
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: So in a world where you play thing or not

899
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Speaker 2: a thing. I would say not a thing now, you know.

900
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 4: Thanks now, and not a thing now. And I don't

901
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: think it's a thing for when they play us. If

902
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: he's out a month and that month starts now, he'll

903
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 4: be ready for a in week number four.

904
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 2: All right, So Hard Knocks Up Episode two was last

905
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: night Big Picture. We're two episodes in. You've saw that.

906
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 2: You've seen the first episode by now, right.

907
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 5: I saw the first one.

908
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, this one, I mean this is it's basically

909
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: quarterback except only Aaron Rodgers.

910
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 5: Okay, it's it's forty.

911
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: Five minutes of him miked hour. It's pretty much just him. Yeah. Like,

912
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: so they have a skit with this illusionist or mentalist

913
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: sort of the hell you call this guy at the beginning,

914
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: which is crazy. Like, those guys make me a little uncomfortable.

915
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: I don't like not understanding how they do that stuff.

916
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: And his magic is absolutely stupefying.

917
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 5: It makes sense, it makes me maybe has maybe he's magic.

918
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 5: Maybe he is.

919
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean my head tells me not. But what he

920
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: pulled off in this episode was it was just absolutely stunning,

921
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: just crazy. The players, yes, of course, yes, yeah, that

922
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense.

923
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 4: There's a guy in Cleveland that is really really really

924
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 4: good and one Thanksgiving, the night before things you have him, missfest.

925
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 4: We ended up at this one particular place where missus

926
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 4: dad always was and the guy was there and he's.

927
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 5: Been on like he's done some stuff on TV.

928
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: He's amazing, and he did a thing with us where

929
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 4: had a card like I signed it. I remember if

930
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 4: I signed her kil signed it. One of us signed

931
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 4: the card like our signature in a sharpie. He took

932
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 4: the card in front of us. He gave us the

933
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 4: card back, said, you guys ripped us up. So we

934
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: ripped up that card. You physically ripped it right with

935
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: our with the signature, like, yep, that was that card.

936
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 4: It is now ripped into like four or five pieces. Okay,

937
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 4: says okay, give me the pieces. He takes them back,

938
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 4: puts it in the deck. Like now it's kind of like,

939
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 4: there's why are these pieces of the deck anyway? Does

940
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 4: this whole thing blah blah blah blah blah blah. The

941
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 4: big reveal is he's like, do you feel something in

942
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 4: your shoe? And I'm like, yeah, in my shoe. Okay,

943
00:44:55,520 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 4: was the card that we signed back together hole and

944
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 4: just like fold it up. And this happened like right

945
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: in front of us, right in front of me, Like

946
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 4: nobody touched my shoe. There hasn't been a card in

947
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 4: my shoe since I left my house. I don't know,

948
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. So there might they Maybe they

949
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 4: are magic. Obviously it's just a slide of hand somehow someway,

950
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 4: but like to get something into my.

951
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 2: Shoe without without And it was like like you would

952
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 2: notice somebody in your shoe.

953
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it wasn't in like just it wasn't like

954
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 4: they just slid in the back near my ankle. It

955
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 4: was like up under like the ball of my foot,

956
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 4: and it wasn't there until I said, do you feel

957
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: something in your shoe?

958
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 5: It made no sense. I'm like, dude, you're a sorcerer.

959
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 5: That's crazy.

960
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 2: It's crazy, right, Like so this guy that, this guy's

961
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: that good, like he does three tricks that are I mean,

962
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: just let everybody, I can't wrap your head around it

963
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: doesn't I don't want to ruin it for you. You'll

964
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 2: see for yourself. I love what he dones on Rogers

965
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: is crazy. I just like it's nuts, absolutely nuts.

966
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 5: And I'm sure.

967
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if Rogers is like this, but like

968
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 4: for me, when that guy's doing, all I was doing

969
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 4: was trying to watch whatever I thought he didn't want

970
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 4: me to watch. Of course I was looking at his

971
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: other hands yeap, yes, oh yeah, none of the tricks

972
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 4: that he was none of the fun stuff he was doing.

973
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: I was just like trying to be locked and he

974
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: ended up agetting like it doesn't make any sense, and

975
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 4: it was not ripped again, like that's the thing. We

976
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: ripped it. I know it was ripped.

977
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,479
Speaker 2: You used there could have been.

978
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 4: Another card line around with our signature on it. We

979
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 4: didn't sign it.

980
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: No, how would you? How would it? Makes no sense?

981
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: The Rookie Talent show they did was absolutely an abomination.

982
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: But really the highlight, like you're getting the thing that

983
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 2: I would say is the New York Jets have given

984
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: their franchise to Aaron Rodgers.

985
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 5: It feels that way.

986
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of the things I read that, like

987
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 4: everybody else is just like a forget side show.

988
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, forget it. In the first episode, you get a

989
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: little bit of sauce, a little bit of Garrett Wilson.

990
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: This one, you get a little bit of Quinn Williams,

991
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 2: but it's like eighty percent Rogers and it's great, Like

992
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: just his behavior, the way he is our guy camp

993
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: he was there, he's the offensive line coach for Carolina,

994
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 2: so like there was a lot of back and forth

995
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 2: between him and Rogers. Yeah, so that was all very good.

996
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: But like his lack of patience with like the snap,

997
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: like for example, like he doesn't want the snap spiraled,

998
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: like don't spiral the snap. He just wants it back

999
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: to him quickly, but doesn't want it spiral. He just

1000
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: wants it back straight, you know. So there was a

1001
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: lot of conversation about the why and I don't know.

1002
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: It just says he doesn't like how it feels in

1003
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: his hands when it comes in on spiral. He just

1004
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: likes it coming in like a knuckleball I guess.

1005
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 5: Will be the flat. Yeah.

1006
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a lot of good stuff with that, Like

1007
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 2: anybody to me, like what you're getting from Rogers is

1008
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: a real window into and it's a it's a glossed window, sure,

1009
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: just curated, but it's also a real window into one

1010
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: of the greatest to ever play the position, and just

1011
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: the way he goes about his business. The other thing

1012
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: from a newsworthy standpoint today. And I believe you had

1013
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: this on Monday when we talked about the Michael Orer situation.

1014
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: There's a lot of layers to this thing. So you

1015
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: had over making the original charges on Monday, filing suit

1016
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: on Monday, you had the Twoy's responding to this and

1017
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: this is the blind side story, right, They responded to

1018
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 2: it on Monday night, And then yesterday you had even

1019
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: more stronger language from Michael Ore's I'm sorry for the

1020
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: from the Twoey's attorney saying that Michael has attempted to

1021
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: extort them before and if they didn't pay him fifteen

1022
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: million dollars then he was going to put out bad

1023
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: things about them in the press and go at them.

1024
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: I would say, if that is true, that ought to

1025
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: be very easily provable. Yes, Yes, there's documentation somewhere, and

1026
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: it makes fel like email.

1027
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 4: As a lawyer, you don't say that and publicly unless

1028
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 4: you feel like you've got that.

1029
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 5: That proof backing you up. Yeah. The whole thing to

1030
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 5: sent is the timing of it makes sense.

1031
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 4: And I don't know what the real truth is here

1032
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: at all, and I'm not pretending to it. Just it

1033
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 4: felt like if this was his gripe, that there were

1034
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,959
Speaker 4: enough people around him when he was making enough money

1035
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: that this would have come out earlier. Yeah, and so

1036
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 4: you know, I'd be very curious to know what his

1037
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 4: current financial situation is. Yeah, and if they have the

1038
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 4: you know, the evidence of that or that you know,

1039
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 4: there's never been anything on their side, you need to

1040
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 4: see it. It just to me, the saddest part is is

1041
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 4: that this truly was, at least at a time, an

1042
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 4: incredible story.

1043
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: Sure they were at his draft, I mean, like the

1044
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: whole thing, like yes, there's no question, like the old

1045
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: miss stuff doesn't happen without him. And I know he

1046
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: I think I said this on Monday when we talked

1047
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: about it. I know that there was bitterness from him

1048
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: in terms of the way that he was portrayed in

1049
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: the movie, you know, as like a simpleton and all that, Like, yeah,

1050
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: that always bothered him. He felt like that hung around

1051
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: his neck. And I know that because my buddy Don

1052
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 2: Jeger ghost wrote his yep A biography, So I knew

1053
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: that there was that there was some of that that

1054
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: was very real that he's been dealing with. So I

1055
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: think that there's some shades of gray here, but there

1056
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: was always going to be a little bit more to

1057
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: that story. The thing that hit me after Monday's original

1058
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 2: was the claim that they made two point five percent

1059
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: of the gate of the movie. They're lucky to get

1060
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: anything from the movie. They got the money from the book.

1061
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: That's where that goes. Once the book is bought by

1062
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: a movie company, a movie production house. At that point

1063
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: the studio they pay the guy who wrote the book.

1064
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 2: They're not paying you. They bought the book, the books

1065
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: the rights, two point five percent of the gate would

1066
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: be like what Sandra Bullock would make. Yeah, right, that

1067
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 2: would be an enormous number. That's that would be Bullock,

1068
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: not somebody a book is based on.

1069
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 5: Correct.

1070
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: So like that read of it, I thought, well, that's

1071
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 2: that's definitely not right that that would play out that

1072
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: way in terms of them getting a percentage of the

1073
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: of the gate of the movie. There just was no way.

1074
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 5: Have they said that too, like this, that was a preposterous.

1075
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, all yeah, yeah, yeah, it just didn't add up.

1076
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 5: Well, that's part. There's very little of it that adds up.

1077
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 4: The timing of it doesn't add up, and it's just

1078
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 4: it's strange, and it's obviously unfortunate that it's it's at

1079
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 4: this point, but I have a feeling it's going to

1080
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 4: get ugly and then you know there's going to be

1081
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 4: proof of something in one of these ways that is

1082
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 4: gonna is going to topple this thing, and somebody's going

1083
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 4: to come out of this looking or to one side

1084
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 4: is going to come out of this looking really bad.

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Speaker 2: No middle ground. Yeah, I agree with you. I think

1086
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: I think it's uh. In this instance, there will be

1087
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: a certainly one side that comes out on the on

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Speaker 2: in Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 6: Yesterday, everything okay, oh good and got rolled up on

1104
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 6: and you know, have some pain, but uh, you know

1105
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 6: the guys are looking out for me and wanted to

1106
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 6: be a little bit cautious what with today. Let's see

1107
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 6: how I fell and uh go out there. I'm moving well,

1108
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 6: it's feeling good. Told me to just no cool it

1109
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 6: for for team and you know, just let the guys work.

1110
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 6: And they came out. There were a lot of juice,

1111
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 6: line of energy and it was, uh there was some

1112
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 6: good some bad, but you know they's to be expected

1113
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 6: in camp unless you mean it's felt.

1114
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 7: Good from going out there in the individuals.

1115
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 6: So you're very part of Yeah, you know individuals was

1116
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 6: exploding out a little little pain, but it used to

1117
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 6: be expected.

1118
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 8: Was it a different for then you had to dissipated

1119
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 8: Towana the same.

1120
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 5: Rot uh different foot Okay, mawny, people have messed from

1121
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 5: yesterday's performers.

1122
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 2: We were deep its u.

1123
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 6: Uh it came out and uh I think we were

1124
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 6: were flying around little more, a lot lot more energy,

1125
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 6: a lot more more juice you know, down the field,

1126
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 6: finished toward the ball, and then there were l uh

1127
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 6: less mistakes. But uh uh those guys over there, you

1128
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 6: know they were in position to to win it big

1129
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 6: for a reason. You know, they they executed at a

1130
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 6: high level and it makes a big plays and uh,

1131
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 6: hats off to them. You know, we gotta keep on

1132
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 6: excuting and finish each play, you know, on top like that,

1133
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 6: like we know we can.

1134
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 5: Way where are there?

1135
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 9: Why is their offensive line kind of the perfect team

1136
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 9: to kind of do these against For you guys as

1137
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 9: a defensive.

1138
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 6: Front, Oh, I mean, y, you wanna see a lot

1139
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 6: of different looks as far as off the line, just

1140
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 6: cause that's what you're gonna face and now everyone's gonna

1141
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 6: set the same.

1142
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 5: They have a a pretty.

1143
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 6: Unique scheme, com at least compared to some of the

1144
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 6: other UH teams were facing the league, and uh, you

1145
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 6: know allows us to have some some liberties we wouldn't

1146
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 6: face against our own team, and that that gives us, you know,

1147
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 6: a different different look and a and uh some adjustments

1148
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 6: that you know, we we weren't able to to really

1149
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 6: see what we were we were playing on each other,

1150
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 6: you know, the way they were setting, the way they

1151
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 6: were kicking. It allows for for us to see if

1152
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 6: Stepp will work a little bit further down the line,

1153
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 6: and UH prepares for the season.

1154
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 5: Yeah allwles I was listening to UH. Jason Kelsey talked

1155
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 5: over there to his media session. He said that.

1156
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 7: This D line was, you know, one of the better

1157
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,319
Speaker 7: end n D lines in the league.

1158
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: To hear that from a guy like you can't see

1159
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 2: what what.

1160
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 5: Does that mean? Aw?

1161
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 6: I mean, it means a lot.

1162
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 5: You seen, you seen a whole lot.

1163
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 6: And he's been around for well and you know he's

1164
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 6: he's played against some some really good ones, so you know,

1165
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 6: and definitely it's UH until it's an honor coming from him.

1166
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 6: But you know, we gotta make the most of it.

1167
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 6: So we appreciate the words, but we gotta keep on

1168
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 6: putting the work in cause.

1169
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 7: For offense that was out there. But when these skirmishes

1170
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 7: like happened, when destroyed practices, that's what you've been feel

1171
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 7: like building is as the days get longer, the competition builds.

1172
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 7: When you're going against you guys for two.

1173
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 6: Days, you know, it's it's just usually gonna get knowing

1174
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 6: the intention is gonna wrap up. You know, guys are passionate,

1175
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 6: they want to make plays, and now you get not

1176
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 6: that mode, you know where you know it starts to

1177
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 6: get game like and know stuff like that happened. You know,

1178
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 6: they're they're very competitive and and as are we, so

1179
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 6: you know, it just it gets to a point where

1180
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 6: a guys start to take it up a notch and

1181
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 6: and we we gotta be able to you know, lock

1182
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 6: in and and bring it back down when once those

1183
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 6: those times start coming up and starts ramping up a

1184
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 6: little bit too much.

1185
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 8: Aund saying that there were some cheap shots both ways.

1186
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 8: You coming from the place, did you notice.

1187
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 5: Anything like that at all? I didn't.

1188
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 6: I didn't see chief shots myself. I'm not saying that

1189
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 6: they didn't happen, but I didn't see any. And uh

1190
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 6: and I saw that were from skirmishers on the offensive field.

1191
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 6: So you know, we'll check in and I know they'll

1192
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 6: they'll be better. And I know they're the older guys.

1193
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 6: They have a lot of vets that will uh help them,

1194
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 6: you know, continue to practice the right way and have

1195
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 6: good habits. You know, we'll do the same on our side.

1196
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 6: Cause you know, fight's not gonna start from you know,

1197
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 6: just just one side doing anything. You know how it

1198
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 6: takes 'em a little bit from from both. So no,

1199
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 6: we both need to improve and you don't be able

1200
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 6: to get out here and get good work.

1201
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 9: How did you feel like the young guys guys could work,

1202
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 9: you know, especially guys like Isaiah and In, Siaki In and.

1203
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 6: Ova no going against you, no big time talent like

1204
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 6: like they were. They're getting looks that no, you you

1205
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 6: don't always you know, get to get you know, you're

1206
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 6: gonna get to know Joel and and Jed and and

1207
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 6: Jack and the one. You know, all those guys are

1208
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 6: are really good. But you know that's only one set

1209
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 6: you're saying. You know, you're saying a variety of of

1210
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 6: different skill sets you know from a a a different

1211
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 6: team who's who's very talented what they do, and that

1212
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 6: allows you to to start adapting to you know, what

1213
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 6: else you're gonna see in the league, and uh starts

1214
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 6: to create a you know a little bit of a

1215
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 6: variety of your past rushmooths and what you see really

1216
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 6: works for you and what works for you across the

1217
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 6: board instead of just one style m it's really.

1218
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 7: Hard from miles you guys are kind of still ramping

1219
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,479
Speaker 7: up Shelby Harris. But to get him out there and

1220
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 7: and see what he can do. What does he add

1221
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 7: to the d WY.

1222
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 6: I mean he he plays with you know a lot

1223
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 6: of a lot of passions, and he's fiery and uh,

1224
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 6: you know he's right now he's getting his his feet

1225
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 6: underneath him and and uh, you know, working and working

1226
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 6: his hands really well. Uh, he has a lot of

1227
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 6: knowledge of the game coming out and big on to

1228
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 6: do you know, a variety of moves and uh, you

1229
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 6: know he'll he'll let you tell it. He's not where

1230
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 6: it wants to be. But you know, we we know

1231
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 6: from from how he spoken in their classroom and how

1232
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 6: he he talks the game, why he's out there, you know,

1233
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 6: coaching up the inner guys and that you know, it's

1234
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 6: just about him getting in that that game you know,

1235
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 6: game like form and shape from him.

1236
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 8: The Eagles, like the NFL is seventy sacks last year

1237
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 8: and they've sort of set the standard for what, you know,

1238
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 8: the prototypical d line should be. Do you feel that

1239
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 8: way that they are like where you guys want to

1240
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 8: get to and do you feel like with all the

1241
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 8: additions and with Jim Schwartz that you're getting there are close.

1242
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 6: I mean there's one style of doing it. There's many

1243
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 6: different styles of of being a unaggressive and you know,

1244
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 6: a production heavy you know, defense and defensive line. And you know,

1245
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 6: we'll we'll find our own way, you know, we'll call

1246
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 6: her own path. And they're just you know, another really

1247
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 6: source of knowledge for us to pull from as far

1248
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 6: as you know, how to how to be uh so

1249
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 6: efficient and and uh productive, no rushing the pastor and

1250
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 6: but you know, we have different guys who who do

1251
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 6: bring no different things to the table, and so we

1252
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 6: have to play with what we have and I think

1253
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 6: we can be very talented on right.

1254
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 8: How about Jordan? Are a lot of going up against

1255
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 8: Jordan and are you familiar with uh his story and

1256
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 8: his background a little bit and and if so, he

1257
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 8: just took such a unique path to get into the NFL.

1258
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 8: Do you find that sort of fascinating?

1259
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 5: Absolutely?

1260
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 6: You know, he's he's pretty young in the game if

1261
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 6: you were to look at how long he's been here,

1262
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 6: and you know, for him to pick up the game

1263
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 6: so fast and be where he's at, he's I'm sure.

1264
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 5: He's proved a lot of people wrong.

1265
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 6: But he's he certainly impressed me and some others with

1266
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 6: how quickly he's uh he's come along and uh, you

1267
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 6: know he's he's already you know, got the the size

1268
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 6: for it. He's he's big as a house. But he

1269
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 6: he moves really well. He's athletic and he's shown that

1270
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 6: knowing his rugby days. But uh, you know, you you

1271
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 6: can't help. But like you know, Marvel At like this

1272
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 6: guy no moving as as well as he does, you know,

1273
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 6: being as a efficiently does working with with Lane, He's

1274
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 6: he's gotten a you know, his his technical problems to

1275
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 6: a pretty high level. And I think he's going to

1276
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 6: only continue to grow and grow as a as a player.

1277
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 8: Are you gonna go see Messi tonight?

1278
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 5: No comment?

1279
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: He would have got a show. Messi scored again last night.

1280
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 2: I think he's got nine goals in six games versus

1281
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: MLS competition for inter Miami. So if he did go,

1282
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 2: he got a pretty decent, uh, pretty decent show from

1283
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: the world's best player.

1284
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 3: He might have made an appearance there last night, right good,

1285
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 3: but there was you know, there was a bed check,

1286
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 3: so you couldn't stay for the whole thing.

1287
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 4: I mean, isn't what Messi is doing, Like as if

1288
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 4: you know, Jordan's at not the end, not the Wizard's

1289
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: end of his career, but like the end of his

1290
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 4: still like dominant career, went and played in like the

1291
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 4: D League.

1292
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: Be like if Lebron went to China right now, we

1293
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: were like, Wow, can you believe Lebron's averaging forty in China?

1294
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 2: And yeah, actually, yeah, I can't believe. It makes sense

1295
01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: he's the best player in the world.

1296
01:00:59,680 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 5: Still.

1297
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 3: I remember where I saw it. Someone said, it's you're

1298
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Speaker 3: playing FIFA uneasy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, but here's the thing that I think it's. It

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Speaker 2: can be both that he's extraordinary. Let's remember that he

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Speaker 2: was the best player at the World Cup six months ago. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so it can be both that he is extraordinary and

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Speaker 2: MLS isn't as bad. And this isn't doesn't have to

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Speaker 2: be some huge indictment of MLS. MLS is about what

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Speaker 2: people think it is. It's like the eighth, eight to

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Speaker 2: twelfth best league in the world, and it's somewhere in there,

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Speaker 2: and so he's dominating it, as he should be because

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Speaker 2: he's one of the five best players in the world

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Speaker 2: still exactly.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what's he on?

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Speaker 2: You play with PSG all the time? What is he

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Speaker 2: on that? Like a ninety one? Yeah, he's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: The only guy who's better is uh mbape, although he's

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Speaker 4: he's starting to decline for age in my seasons.

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Speaker 5: Very sad it's down to an eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you hate to see that. Hate to see that.

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Speaker 4: I brought into a guy named Oda Gard who's got

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Speaker 4: a great Game of Thrones name, and who's a beast.

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Speaker 5: He's my He's gonna be my new messy.

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Speaker 2: He's your new guy.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 2: I like it very good. All right, Well we'll get

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Speaker 2: a little higher, lower, better, worse coming your way shortly.

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Speaker 2: to go through every kind of position group and get

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Speaker 2: some grades for how they performed over the joint tracts

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Speaker 2: of the Eagles. We did this from Rick, though. Did

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Speaker 2: Nick Chubb compete over the last two days. I haven't

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Speaker 2: heard a peep about him. Excuse me if the boys

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Speaker 2: have talked about him.

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Speaker 5: I'm a day behind. Yeah, and he looks great.

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Speaker 4: It's I think some times he's Nick Chubb and these things.

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Speaker 4: It's wild in the sense that you see him, you

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Speaker 4: see his speed, you see his vision, his power running

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01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 4: through arm tackles, and you can't really assess the running

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Speaker 4: game until there's true tackling to the ground because I

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Speaker 4: can't say, oh, he broke that tackle. Oh he did

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Speaker 4: not break that tackle.

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Speaker 5: You can't. You have to see that.

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Speaker 4: And part of what Nick Chubb does is, you know,

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Speaker 4: yards after contact. Well, that doesn't exist in these things

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Speaker 4: because guy runs behind and they do that, Oh I

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01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 4: tagged you up and that's it, and they celebrate because

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Speaker 4: they don't have to, you know, make any of these plays.

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Speaker 4: So it's hard he looks great, he looks fast, he

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01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 4: looks strong, he looks.

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Speaker 2: Like prection is. This is not for Nick Chubb. No,

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Speaker 2: we don't need Nick Chubb to be.

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Speaker 5: Heard in a joint practice.

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Speaker 3: It was kind of funny. He actually fumbled twice on Monday,

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Speaker 3: and I.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what God panic.

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Speaker 5: No, he did not fumble. It was on.

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Speaker 4: It was on ball handley. It was on like an

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Speaker 4: option pitch and like a reed poll. It wasn't like

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Speaker 4: just he just correct. Well that man, the context of matters.

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Speaker 3: I can't even see you, like I'm getting the circle

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Speaker 3: of death on my computer right now, the internet.

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Speaker 2: Give me, give me's running on one. Give mes an

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Speaker 2: eleven right now. Yeah, just of loving life. He's an

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Speaker 2: eleven of loving life. All right, let's go, uh, position,

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Speaker 2: position group by position group, Let's get some grades out

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Speaker 2: of u Z on what you saw in the two

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Speaker 2: days against Philly. Remember, folks, we talked about this, We've

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Speaker 2: been talking about these two days all summer, that these

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Speaker 2: are the two days you'd know most about where your

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Speaker 2: team is. So we'll start on the offensive side. Let's

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Speaker 2: start at quarterback. What do you got for the quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: in the two game two practices.

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna focus this is going to be on Watson,

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna say, uh, B B wasn't. We did

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Speaker 4: not light them up consistently, But you saw a lot

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Speaker 4: of really good that. You saw a lot of A

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Speaker 4: throws and then you saw a lot of C throws

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Speaker 4: and these situations. And so that's how you end up

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Speaker 4: to me at A B. There it was, was this

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Speaker 4: what we hope to see Deshaun Watson be this year?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: I think is it cause for panic? Like it feels

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Speaker 4: like you were saying earlier? Also, No, I think that

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Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson showed you some of the tight window throws,

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Speaker 4: the arm strength, the ball placement, all of it that

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Speaker 4: he is capable of. And I think he also showed

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Speaker 4: you that, you know, very good quarterbacks still can be

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Speaker 4: derailed by pressure. And so I think you saw all that.

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Speaker 4: So i's a B. I think if he played in

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Speaker 4: games as he played in this one and our defense,

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Speaker 4: you know, was having a good day and Nick Chub's

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Speaker 4: a good day, absolutely winning quality football. Was it put

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Speaker 4: the team on my back type of a performance. It

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Speaker 4: was not that either, So B A B.

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Speaker 2: I was just curious what, Yeah, So I this is

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Speaker 2: what I thought. This is how I remembered it as well.

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Speaker 2: Like if we were to do a guest the stats

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Speaker 2: on Mahomes in the Super Bowl against Philly. Okay, what's

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Speaker 2: your what's your uh, give me your yardage?

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Speaker 4: I want to say like two forty. It wasn't huge,

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Speaker 4: but Valdas Scanting I feel like had a hundred of it,

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Speaker 4: had a lot of it. Or it might have been

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Speaker 4: against the Bengals's Bengals. That's Bengals for Valdas Scantling. Yeah, yeah, uh,

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Speaker 4: Mahomes went twenty one to twenty seven for.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Eagles are good.

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Speaker 5: They're really good, and so that's.

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Speaker 2: The the game plan for all right stuff.

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Speaker 4: Look, that's the other thing I don't think people realize.

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Speaker 4: Really I want, I can tell you this with one

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Speaker 4: hundred percent certainty because it was a question I asked

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Speaker 4: our head coach.

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Speaker 5: And he answered it on the Kevin Stefanski Show.

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Speaker 4: I said, when you come out of day one of

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Speaker 4: one of these joint practices, you watch the tape, do

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Speaker 4: you then make adjustments to try to counter, you know what,

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Speaker 4: some of the things that the Eagles were doing. And

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Speaker 4: he kind of laughed and he goes No, we're not.

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Speaker 4: There's there's no game planning in these practices. We are

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Speaker 4: not calling our things that we think would work best

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Speaker 4: against this Eagles defense. We're just getting our work and

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Speaker 4: where there's certain plays and things we want to see.

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Speaker 4: These are different looks and we're used to getting against them,

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Speaker 4: and you could get these looks in the season, but

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Speaker 4: there's no game planning whatsoever in these joint practices in

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Speaker 4: terms of doing things on offense that we thought would

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Speaker 4: give us the best chance of success against their defense

1435
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Speaker 4: advice versa. And I'm sure that's true for the Eagles too.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that's true for them too. So that's one

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Speaker 4: thing that also kind of you know, keep take with

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Speaker 4: a grain of salt in this stuff. And that's why

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Speaker 4: again that's why I said it was a bee for

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Speaker 4: de Shum. I think people think that it has to

1441
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 4: be either he's fully back or oh my god, it's

1442
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 4: a crisis. And I think that there can be there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of ground between those two outposts, right, And

1444
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Speaker 4: I think that in this one, was it as sharp

1445
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Speaker 4: as we had seen you know, at other points of

1446
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Speaker 4: the offseason. No, but that's because but it was in

1447
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 4: the seven on sevens. It absolutely was. So that then

1448
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 4: becomes what's the factor, what's the differentiate factor? The pressure

1449
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 4: from the best front in football, and that that affected him.

1450
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 4: So I again, I got everything I wanted out of

1451
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 4: these two days. I feel like the Browns have all

1452
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 4: the talent in the world. Everything they need, the physicality,

1453
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 4: the toughness, to size, the skill, all of it to

1454
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Speaker 4: be every bit as good as the Philadelphia Eagles. And

1455
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 4: I did not feel that last year after the two

1456
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 4: days of the joy Prisis it just they were on

1457
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 4: a different level than the Browns. That's not the case anymore.

1458
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Speaker 4: That's what the whole point of this was. That's right,

1459
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 4: that's what the whole point of this was. And you

1460
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 4: got that answer, and you got that every you don't

1461
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 4: have to take it. Don't listen to me. You can say, oh,

1462
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 4: you know, he's just a homer or whatever. Read the

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia well all of them have that consensus. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's not even up for debate.

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01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 5: Now.

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01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 4: You could to the level of panic or degree of

1467
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 4: what you're thinking, because everybody's praising to Sean by the way,

1468
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 4: coming out of Monday that he had an awesome day,

1469
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 4: and then on Tuesday, you know, there was some good

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Speaker 4: as I mentioned seven on seven, there were some not

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Speaker 4: as good in some of those team periods. That's why

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Speaker 4: it's a B. It wasn't elite I did. We didn't

1473
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 4: see you know what you the like high high, highest

1474
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 4: of levels. But it was definitely good enough to play

1475
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 4: winning football.

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01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: Certainly, running back.

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Speaker 5: Room hard to say.

1478
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 4: Nick Chubb looks great Beyond Nick Chubb, you know, the

1479
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 4: question remains is is that person is that third running

1480
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 4: back on our roster? And you know, you don't get

1481
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 4: the benefit of getting to c Unfortunately, you can get

1482
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 4: the benefit of getting to see Jerome Ford. So we

1483
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 4: don't know really how ready Jerome Ford is or any

1484
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 4: of it. So I think that from Nick Chubb's and A,

1485
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 4: but the rest of the room is an incomplete Receivers,

1486
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 4: Amari had a couple of drops on the first day

1487
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 4: which were very uncharacteristic for him, but I had some

1488
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 4: very nice routes on the second day. DPJ had a

1489
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 4: great touchdown down in the red zone in a tight,

1490
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 4: tight window. Tillman made a great catch, moss In somebody.

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Speaker 4: I thought at times, you know, there wasn't as much

1492
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 4: separation as you would have wanted for some of the

1493
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,680
Speaker 4: guys kind of taking it through the whole look at

1494
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 4: the room, but they would be, you know, on par

1495
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 4: with I would say with the quarterback kept passing them,

1496
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 4: kind of goes hand in hand, So I would say

1497
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 4: a bee for the receivers as well.

1498
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:31,919
Speaker 2: Offensive line.

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Speaker 5: For their standard.

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Speaker 4: I thought that at times it was very good and

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01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 4: the one on ones they did really well, and that's

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01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 4: not stuff that really gets talked about afterwards. They did

1503
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 4: very well in the one on ones. Here focus much

1504
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 4: more on the team situation, and I one hundred percent

1505
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 4: get that. So I thought, I thought that they I'm

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01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 4: going to give them a B minus dealing with a

1507
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 4: very difficult front, so you got a grade it on

1508
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 4: a curve, knowing that that's what they were dealing with.

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Speaker 4: But I thought at times they did not do a

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01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 4: good enough job of protecting of protecting Deshaun Watson, which

1511
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 4: I think the Eagles will probably give their offense line

1512
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 4: the same grade. Like look tough task, but they at

1513
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 4: times did not do a good enough job protecting. Jalen

1514
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:16,919
Speaker 4: Hurts tight ends, chiefs excellent, Aikens made some nice catches.

1515
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 5: I B plus.

1516
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: Did you see I'm sure you've been getting a lot

1517
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 2: going on. Like one of the do you see the

1518
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: supermodels comments on on Chief he's having a good off

1519
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 2: the field day? Ye too, Yeah, I think there's a

1520
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 2: there's a Swedish supermodel that says he has the face

1521
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 2: of an angel.

1522
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,520
Speaker 5: Oh baby, go Chief.

1523
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 2: Go yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I saw it this morning

1524
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 2: somewhere where I was prepping for the morning, and I

1525
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 2: saw the comments. She was a big she's a big

1526
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 2: Burrow guy and a big Chief guy. Those are the uh,

1527
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 2: those are the top two draft picks, right there are

1528
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 2: those two guys. All right, let's switch it over to

1529
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 2: the defensive side. Defensive line.

1530
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 4: A A plus like that was they came and stole

1531
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 4: the show. The defensive line absolutely stole the show. Zadarius Miles.

1532
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 4: When Zadarius Miles, Dalvin and Obo were out there together,

1533
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 4: I mean, it was it was difficult for the Eagles

1534
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 4: to do anything. So A plus they were the stars.

1535
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 4: To me, that's what you come out of these two

1536
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 4: days feeling the best about on the Cleveland Browns is

1537
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 4: the defensive.

1538
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 2: Front secondary.

1539
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 4: Very solid, I mean, and they battled AJ Brown, DeVante

1540
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 4: Smith like those are very talented wide receivers. They had

1541
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 4: a lot of wins. In one on ones they had

1542
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 4: a lot of wins, and seven on sevens they got

1543
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 4: beat at times two because the Eagles are good, and

1544
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 4: I think that's okay, like that's going to happen sometimes

1545
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 4: they're that good. And you know, some of the Deshaun's throws,

1546
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 4: the Eagles were in a great position. He just made better.

1547
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 4: Perfect throw will always be good coverage. Joe Hayden said

1548
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 4: that to us last week, because you can be in

1549
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 4: the best position possible. If they make the perfect throw,

1550
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 4: it's gonna be and he says that can be frustrating

1551
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 4: when they're that good. I thought our secondary had a

1552
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 4: very nice day. Denzel played well. MJ continues to come along.

1553
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 4: I'll give our secondary minus linebackers solid, but not a

1554
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 4: whole lot to even really report, you know, in the

1555
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 4: sense that we're not tackling the ground in the run game.

1556
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 5: They seem to be in some good spots in the

1557
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 5: passing game.

1558
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 4: I'd say, you know, solid b some some good, some

1559
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 4: not as good, but nothing they didn't stand out. What

1560
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 4: stood out to me was that defensive front, and then

1561
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,879
Speaker 4: obviously are our corners and safeties.

1562
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: Let's finish it up with special teams.

1563
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 5: My friend.

1564
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, good directional punting by Bjorquez. We didn't see a

1565
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 4: ton of return game, which it came grant. They weren't

1566
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 4: doing like full on returning. I think that's probably too

1567
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 4: too many collisions for even in this situation. So they

1568
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 4: do kind of a punt, so it was really you

1569
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 4: couldn't assess that, so it was really about how you

1570
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 4: hit the ball. Uh and then Caid win six for six.

1571
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 4: So Special Team came at NA. It was an a

1572
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 4: week for special teams.

1573
01:13:59,240 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 5: Get kids.

1574
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 4: He's making a face. What's that face for yoube eh?

1575
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, we definitely need to include Demetri

1576
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 3: Felton because he looks like a different player than from

1577
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 3: past years.

1578
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 5: And the special team's greats. Yeah, okay, I liked what

1579
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 5: he had to do. Okay, good job.

1580
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 2: We'll do a little better or worse coming up next here.

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Speaker 10: Hello Gibbe, Hello, Away we go, And a new head

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Speaker 10: of the NFL dot com weekly Power Rankings, Dan hanss

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Speaker 10: Born over the Reins and he's turned him over to

1594
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 10: our good friend.

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Speaker 3: Who's been on our show plenty of times, one Eric

1596
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 3: ed Holme, who's now at NFL dot com. All right,

1597
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 3: so these are the NFL Power Rankings preseason edition, okay,

1598
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 3: and they came out late last week, and so we'll

1599
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,560
Speaker 3: go through them here as we are in the preseason

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01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 3: first and foremost, again compliments of NFL dot Com. My

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Speaker 5: Sweet. The Browns come in at number thirteen. I tried it.

1603
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 5: I'm like, come on, come on, come on, let's go,

1604
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 5: let's go.

1605
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 2: You need to be twelve shot brother, Yeah, get the

1606
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 2: sitapses five.

1607
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 4: Part something he ports something in one of the strengths. Yeah,

1608
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 4: what was that?

1609
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 5: Give back? Like vodka hydrator? It's early, Yeah, it's a

1610
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 5: little early. Yeah, it's it's called spark. There you go.

1611
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 3: Definitely needed one. The Browns come in at number thirteen,

1612
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 3: ahead of them the two teams the Lions at eleven,

1613
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 3: the Chargers at twelve. Two teams behind them, the Seahawks

1614
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 3: are fourteen and the Saints are fifteen. Bob Bishop, we

1615
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 3: will start with you higher, lower, or just right for

1616
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 3: your twenty twenty three Cleveland Brown.

1617
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: This is you. Correct me if I'm wrong.

1618
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: Zy.

1619
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 2: We've been doing the higher and lowers all through the

1620
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: off season, all through the summer. We've done him from

1621
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: various accounting, various accounts, various peoples. This is the highest

1622
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 2: I've seen us at thirteen. We're usually like nineteen.

1623
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 5: Terms of the lowest. Yeah, well the worst. This is

1624
01:16:59,640 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 5: the worst.

1625
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: No, this is the best I've seen us. I've not

1626
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,879
Speaker 2: seen this better, better than thirteenth. This is the highest

1627
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 2: ranked in the poll that I've seen us. Typically we

1628
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: are eighteen nineteen. You know, that's just it's insane, right,

1629
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 2: But that's where people that's fine, you know, and we

1630
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: what do we always say, oh, yeah, we got to

1631
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 2: do it, so we understand.

1632
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 5: I understand.

1633
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 2: So I like the fact that based on where everybody

1634
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 2: else is we get a little bit of respect here.

1635
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 2: I do think we're better than the Lions. I do

1636
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,879
Speaker 2: think we're better than Jacksonville. I think we're better than Miami.

1637
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: So I think we should be a little bit better

1638
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 2: than the thirteenth best team in football. But I also

1639
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 2: understand and I give a little bit of prompts because

1640
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: the previous incarnations of these polls that we've done usually

1641
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 2: has this like eighteen. There's been some we've done in

1642
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 2: that it's like twenty two.

1643
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you on that. I think that it

1644
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,680
Speaker 4: is you want to be better than this. Guess what

1645
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 4: according to this particular poll, you get the number four

1646
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 4: team week one, you get the number seventeam. In week four,

1647
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 4: you get the number three team. In your fifth game,

1648
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 4: which is week six after our bye. You want to

1649
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 4: prove that you're the real deal. You want to be

1650
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 4: legit and get all those accolades that come with that.

1651
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 4: Go out there and prove it. And they got the

1652
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 4: Steelers at nineteen and the Titans at twenty three.

1653
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 5: So there it is.

1654
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 3: I think the crazy thing is the Browns are thirteenth.

1655
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 3: They are the ninth AFC team in the top and thirteen.

1656
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 2: Yep, well, and they have. I mean, they got the

1657
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 2: Lions ahead of us. I think we're better than the Lions.

1658
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 2: So I mean, I think you could say nine in

1659
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 2: the top twelve. I think the only NFC teams that

1660
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 2: belong in that group, it's got to be what it's Philly,

1661
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,839
Speaker 2: San Francisco, in Dallas maybe Dallas.

1662
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 5: Yep, Dallas. That's it.

1663
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 4: That's it. That's crazy. And then Seattle's close. The Giants

1664
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 4: are close.

1665
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 5: All right? Next higher, all right?

1666
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 3: Number one in the preseason power rankings, the Kansas City Chiefs.

1667
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,839
Speaker 3: I think we can all agree that that's probably correct.

1668
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 3: So let's go to number two real quick. On that Philadelphia,

1669
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 3: on to Kansas City.

1670
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: Just for a second, please, do you guys know who

1671
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: Justin Ross is?

1672
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 4: You know, the wide receiver who got hurt at Clemson.

1673
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, five star recruit dominates in the National Championship Game

1674
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: as a freshman, lights out. This is when they lit

1675
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,920
Speaker 2: up Bama. Lawrence to him, I want to say, it's

1676
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 2: a back like a spinal issue. His sophomore year, basically

1677
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: loses the rest of his college career. Okay, yep, and

1678
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 2: then and then kind of basically takes a red shirt

1679
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: last year in terms of all and so him flashing,

1680
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: you want to talk about like us hitting the lottery

1681
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 2: with Dwan Jones, this would be lottery cubed. If he

1682
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: can have a team that doesn't need that, he doesn't

1683
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: need it. They want the guys they won the Super

1684
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: Bowl last year, rebuilding. So like if he goes, yeah,

1685
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: good night nurse.

1686
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. So number one is Kansas City that that is

1687
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 3: worth watching because he will Uh. He made his preseason

1688
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 3: debut the other night against the Saints, and it was

1689
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 3: his first game action since Clemson took on Yukon late

1690
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:31,719
Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty one Wild College football season.

1691
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I mean he hasn't played.

1692
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I wonder what he did in the game.

1693
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: I can see what he's doing in practice.

1694
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, everybody else can do. And I think it's Mahomes.

1695
01:20:46,280 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 2: The other thing is is it's mahomes is throwing to him.

1696
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.

1697
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 3: Kansas City is number one, Philly is two, the forty

1698
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 3: nine ers are three, and it takes us to number four.

1699
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 3: The Cincinnati Bengals higher lower or just right, Zigura.

1700
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 4: I think that that's fine. You can make case that

1701
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 4: they should be three on this list. You make case

1702
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 4: they should be five on this list. I think that's

1703
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 4: right where. I think they're appropriately ranked there at four,

1704
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 4: bo Bishop.

1705
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: I mean i'd have a little lower right now, just

1706
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 2: because Burrow's not He's not there, so like if Burrow's there,

1707
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 2: you know, but I think that there is. It seems

1708
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: like it's more encouraging than not for him. They don't

1709
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 2: have any holes. You know, you do the matting rankings things,

1710
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're like a ninety, you know, they got

1711
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 2: everything there.

1712
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's solid.

1713
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:48,200
Speaker 3: Next higher lower Boo follow is number five, number six

1714
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys, and it takes us to number seven

1715
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 3: the Ratbirds from Baltimore bo Bishop higher, lower or just

1716
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 3: right for the Ravens.

1717
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1718
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 2: Sometimes I love I love Todd Monkin. We saw him

1719
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 2: first Ham when he was here. I saw what he's

1720
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 2: done in Georgia the last couple of years, and I

1721
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 2: have no doubt that they're going to be in a

1722
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 2: better position going forward. Sounds like Zay Flowers looks like

1723
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 2: the real deal. But man, I really got to say,

1724
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 2: I think this is way too high for them. I

1725
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: like the Jets better than them. I think we're better

1726
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 2: than them. I think they should come they are worser

1727
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 2: than the seventh best team in the NFL. I think

1728
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 2: they have some real questions in holes.

1729
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 4: I agree, I you too, but they just seem to

1730
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 4: always get it done. And I know if our if

1731
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 4: our roster and all that we were the Ravens, people

1732
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 4: would have us in the top seven. It's just it's

1733
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 4: just kind of the It's the Ravens. They're going to

1734
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 4: figure it out. You know, Lamarro is an MVP, YadA, YadA, YadA.

1735
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 4: It just feels to me like that's kind of just

1736
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,839
Speaker 4: the way that they're always viewed, and they're a dangerous

1737
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 4: team week to week. They are a very dangerous regular

1738
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 4: season team. If Monkin can yet, you know, kind of

1739
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 4: update that offense a little bit, and Lamar holds up

1740
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 4: his end, they're gonna be They will be tough. I

1741
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 4: just don't think they have the dominant defense that people

1742
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 4: typically associate with the Ravens, and their receiving room, while exciting,

1743
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 4: is still very unproven. Odell coming off of you know,

1744
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 4: you haven't seen him play high level football in many

1745
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 4: years due to injury. We've got Flowers, who's a ricking

1746
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:28,759
Speaker 4: than Bateman hasn't been able to stay healthy either.

1747
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 3: Well, they're already they're already banged up and numerous players

1748
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 3: already today. Yeah, and there was something from Jeff's reebeck

1749
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 3: he said earlier today. Ravens tight end Mark Andrews seems

1750
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 3: to be frustrated After a Jackson TD pass to Flowers,

1751
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 3: Andrews spiked his helmet hard enough where it looked like

1752
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 3: part of it broke. He then took a knee off

1753
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 3: to the side and eventually walked back inside the facility

1754
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 3: by himself as practice was ending, like, I don't know what,

1755
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 3: there's just there's some definite things. Ravens nose tackle Michael

1756
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 3: Pierce limped out of the second scrum. There was a

1757
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 3: there were two fights today with the commanders.

1758
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 5: So why Andrews was mad at what, Well.

1759
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: That's we don't have context. I mean, he could have

1760
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 2: got cheap shouted by a defensive player. He could have

1761
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 2: got you know who knows what that could be. This

1762
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 2: is you saw the deep ball though, from from Lamar

1763
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 2: to Odell ware o'della to wait on it.

1764
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't think it's totally in sync. I

1765
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 5: agree with you.

1766
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: I like the Jets a lot more.

1767
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 5: We'll see. I really need it. Too. I think the

1768
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 5: Jets are gonna be really good. Yeah, next higher or lower.

1769
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 3: The Jets are eight, the Dolphins nine. It takes us

1770
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 3: to number ten, and the Jacksonville Jaguars zigura higher, lower.

1771
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 5: Or just right.

1772
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 4: I like this team. I think they are very good.

1773
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 4: I think the Trevor Lawrence is good. I think they're

1774
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 4: well coached. I like them. I think that I like

1775
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 4: us better than the Jacks, but I understand why they

1776
01:24:59,320 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 4: were ranked ahead of us.

1777
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 5: Probably like the Chargers better than the.

1778
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 4: Jags as well, So maybe a little bit lower, but

1779
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 4: I probably would dump down my butt Miami down also.

1780
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think they're in the ten to twelve range.

1781
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 4: I think that's probably right, ten to thirteen, so maybe

1782
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 4: a little bit lower.

1783
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 5: That's it.

1784
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 4: They're at the top end of what i'd put their

1785
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 4: ranges right now. But they're the prohibited favorites to win

1786
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 4: their division, right prohibbit I would I would agree with that.

1787
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 2: Look, I don't think they're the tenth best team in football,

1788
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 2: but they are ascending in the biggest possible way, and

1789
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna have they'll definitely have one of the ten

1790
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: best records in football.

1791
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:36,919
Speaker 5: I think that's fair.

1792
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 2: That's a lock to me. I mean they're making the postseason,

1793
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: they're winning the South.

1794
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 5: Huh so, yep, you.

1795
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: Know that side. They'll the odds are very likely that

1796
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 2: they'll have a better record than everybody in the North

1797
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 2: except forever who wins it.

1798
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 5: It's true. I mean that's a division they take that.

1799
01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 5: If they could just take that next step, that's it.

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01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 2: They're gonna They're might be a very formidable team. They're

1801
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: not going anywhere. They're right, great more great news in

1802
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 2: the AFC, they're gonna be really good. They got Ridley

1803
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 2: for nothing, a bag of balls.

1804
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,799
Speaker 5: Nothing. I was a heist.

1805
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 3: Cheers next higher poor lower, number nineteen. Let's jump down

1806
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 3: to the Squealers. Ahead of them, the Giants at eighteen,

1807
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 3: the Falcons at seventeen, the Vikings at sixteen. Behind them

1808
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 3: the Patriots at twenty, the Broncos at twenty one. Bishop higher,

1809
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 3: lower or just right for the Squealers.

1810
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 2: Man, Look, no one wants to give them praise around here,

1811
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 2: but they are better than the nineteenth best team in football. Yes,

1812
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 2: their defense is legit. The Washington kid they signed, the

1813
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 2: tight end out of Georgia is a monster. They have

1814
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,639
Speaker 2: a lot of weapons. Pick it can be entirely at

1815
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 2: my god, they don't lose with Tomlin and you're telling

1816
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: me that they're nineteenth. Come on, no, not higher? Unfortunately, Yeah,

1817
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 2: they should be higher.

1818
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 5: I think the Giant should be higher. I think, I

1819
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 5: mean the Falcons at seventeen is wild.

1820
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 4: Now the Falcons record might be better just because their

1821
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 4: division is so bad, and I think they're going to

1822
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 4: play a brand of football that will win. They're not

1823
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 4: a serious threat to actually do anything. The Steelers of

1824
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett can go have an electric defense and then

1825
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 4: they've got I think their skill room is Pickens is awesome.

1826
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 4: We said this last year. George Pickens is a beast.

1827
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 4: Deontay Johnson is very good. Nause and Jalen Warren are

1828
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 4: a great running back. Combo Friar moves a good tight end,

1829
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 4: and you know, Alan Robinson is a third receiver is

1830
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 4: pretty darn good.

1831
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 5: He can still come out there and move the chains.

1832
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,799
Speaker 2: Do you guys remember Darnelle Washington Georgia.

1833
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 5: He's like basically an offensive lineman playing tight end right, Yeah.

1834
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 2: He's like six seven. So they have a kid who's

1835
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 2: gonna go like Marvin Harrison Junior will go first, non

1836
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 2: quarterback position player. Next year in the draft, they have

1837
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: a kid at George now, a tight end named Brock

1838
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,799
Speaker 2: Bowers who's going to be the number two position player

1839
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 2: non quarterback in the draft. Washington was behind him, but

1840
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,839
Speaker 2: he dwarfed him from a size standpoint, like incredible athlete,

1841
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 2: not much of a receiver, more of a blocker.

1842
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 5: But they didn't throw to him. You know that physicality, right?

1843
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1844
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 5: Final one higher or lower.

1845
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,839
Speaker 3: I just want your opinion on the bottom four teams.

1846
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 3: He's got Arizona at thirty two, yep, Houston at thirty one,

1847
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay at thirty and the Raiders at number twenty nine.

1848
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:40,760
Speaker 5: Agree or disagree, Zigura, I mean, if the Raiders have.

1849
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppo playing quarterback, it's hard for me to see

1850
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 4: that they're going to finish in the bottom four. I

1851
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 4: think it's much more likely than Indianapolis finishes down there, yes,

1852
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,560
Speaker 4: or Carolina finishes down there. I think those are significantly

1853
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 4: more likely scenarios.

1854
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, the d the Raiders with a healthy

1855
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 2: Garoppolo are going to be They're gonna be hovering around

1856
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 2: five hundred. They're now they might be better off being

1857
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 2: down here because you get a better pick. But but yeah,

1858
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 2: I mean I'm with you on that. I think the

1859
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: two teams that are really fascinating down here are obviously

1860
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and the Rams. They have the Rams twenty eight,

1861
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 2: and that just becomes like if they get off to

1862
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 2: slow starts, do they punt? And you know, do the

1863
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 2: Rams kind of do the opposite of blank them picks

1864
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 2: and get picks back. For like if they put Donald

1865
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 2: on the market, Oh yeah, Cup. I don't even know

1866
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,559
Speaker 2: if they could Cup Stafford. Stafford's harder because of the money,

1867
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 2: but like, if they put those guys on the market,

1868
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 2: they could really start a rebuild in a hurry.

1869
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1870
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, they need to.

1871
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 4: I agree, because they're going to that's what to fund

1872
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 4: at the trade deadline. What do you think about how

1873
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 4: loaded the AFC is. You have a couple teams in

1874
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 4: the NFC that could be huge sellers of huge names, Rams, Bucks,

1875
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 4: where some real talent could come in for Super Bowl runs.

1876
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 4: That could just be wild.

1877
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 2: Starting to guy from Tampa Bay last week and he

1878
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 2: said that, you know, if they want to do fire sale,

1879
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 2: like Evans is a little harder, but like both linebackers

1880
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: could be gone white. Yeah, and the Levante David both

1881
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 2: could be Yeah, guys who are out there and Donald

1882
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 2: could be too. So much more to come. You listen

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Speaker 2: What are you menuing tonight?

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01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 5: Boys? What are you gonna do?

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01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 2: You did Tapis, you did steakhouse? What's on the what's

1889
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Speaker 2: on the menu?

1890
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 4: We don't have anything definitively, but last night when we

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01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 4: came back, we were talking with the docks and they

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01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 4: said there's a James Beard awarded tie restaurant here, and

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01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 4: that that guy my attention.

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01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 2: Come again, yeah, James Beard?

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01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 5: A word of what Thai restaurant here?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 5: I love Tide food? Yeah, okay, check out my attention.

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01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 2: I don't have got your attention? Is the Hoff involved?

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01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 5: I think, so wow, we don't haven't seen that. Do

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Speaker 5: they have a production dinner or do they have anything?

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01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,280
Speaker 5: I think I'm going out. I know Chris, Chris wants

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01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 5: to go out, so I think.

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01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 2: We're all going to go out.

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01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 5: That very good.

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01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 2: I look forward to the full reporting, gentlemen, give me

1906
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 2: if you had a cheese steak yet.

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01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I did last night late after Wow Feast and.

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01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 3: That was fine. It was fine. I don't know it

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01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 3: was it wasn't. It wasn't the place I wanted to go.

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01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 2: The coaching, well, get to the place you want to go.

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Speaker 5: Give me you can't. It's being renovated, all.

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