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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. I was walking over to my side of

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<v Speaker 1>the man cave and I overhear Seton O'Connors say to

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<v Speaker 1>the other Dan Ence, do you think Steve Kerr's overrated?

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<v Speaker 1>And I went, wow, that's a bomb show. Yeah, Seton,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I said, do you think Steve Kerr's overrated

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<v Speaker 1>or underrated? Oh? I didn't hear the under Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I said overrated or underrated? If you had to pick one. Oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's maybe a pull question. All right, is Steve Kerr

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<v Speaker 1>underrated or overrated? Did you know that he's missed a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of games coaching? Like what other sport can you

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<v Speaker 1>miss a playoff game as a coach or a manager?

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<v Speaker 1>And you go, no big deal, I'll be good Mike Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>the interim head coach. But Steve Kerr, Steve Kerr's going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Hall of Fame. Now, you might say he

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<v Speaker 1>inherited a pretty good roster. No, you can say he

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<v Speaker 1>inherited a pretty good roster. You got Steph Curry, you

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<v Speaker 1>got Clay Thomson and Draymond Green. Although at the time

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<v Speaker 1>time when he got those players, we didn't know that

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to turn out to be hold of famers.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there was still a question mark with Steph

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<v Speaker 1>Curry with his ankle, is he going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to withstand the rigors of the NBA. But Steve Kerr

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<v Speaker 1>has done pretty well taking over Mark Jackson's team. Yeah, seton.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people call that being born on third, born on third.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's fair, but but he did

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<v Speaker 1>well on third. Yes, he's done very well on third. Okay, yes, points.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Kerr showed up with the Warriors in twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was his first ever coaching job, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a GM just with Phoenix Sons. So his

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<v Speaker 1>first ever coaching job was Curry Durant Curry those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sixty seven to fifteen his first year. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three wins next year. Okay, it's not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be that easy. But he was also an assistant coach

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<v Speaker 1>with Greg Popovich for quite a few years. He also

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<v Speaker 1>was with Michael Jordan with the Bulls. How many championships

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<v Speaker 1>does he have? How many? How many titles does was

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<v Speaker 1>he a part of as a player, assistant coach and

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<v Speaker 1>a head coach as Hunt I know five as a player,

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<v Speaker 1>three as a coach. Dude, that's eighth right there. Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>how many as an assistant coach. I'm gonna guess he

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<v Speaker 1>won a couple with the San Antonio Spurs, so he's decorated.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he overrated or underrated? Yeah? You could say he's

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<v Speaker 1>very good at keeping the drama down out there. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like he keeps things cool, supports his players to

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<v Speaker 1>the hilt, and that's a big part of managing a team,

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<v Speaker 1>not coaching a team. Well, I also think you learned

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<v Speaker 1>from Popovich and Phil Jackson on how to handle stars

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<v Speaker 1>and Phil. I mean you could look at Phil and

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<v Speaker 1>go he's pretty lucky. He lucked into the Bowls, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when they fired Doug Collins and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>you inherit, Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan. That's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he hand picked the Lakers. It's like Shack

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<v Speaker 1>and Kobe. H I think I can make those guys champions. Yeah. Seton.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great point about being able to keep drama down,

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<v Speaker 1>because just bringing in a player like Kevin Durant and

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<v Speaker 1>then having him leave right away, the amount of drama

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<v Speaker 1>that really must have been going on there, and it

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<v Speaker 1>really only kind of simmered, it never really boiled. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're starting to hear dribs and drabs of

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly was going on at the time, and Draymond

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<v Speaker 1>Green and Kevin Durant and you know, they recruited him

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<v Speaker 1>to come and play with them, and then he leaves

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's a little bit of bad blood there.

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<v Speaker 1>But Steve Kerr underrated or overrated. I guess I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to say he's underrated with his ability to tap into

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<v Speaker 1>the talent that he had and make them even better offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>because defensively, people always underestimated the Golden State Warriors. Defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>there were a good defensive team. I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>they ranked now, but with Clay and Draymond, those are

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<v Speaker 1>really good defenders. Mark Jackson emphasized defense with that team.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Kerr came in and said, we're going to emphasize

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<v Speaker 1>offense and really changed the sport. Steph Curry changed the sport,

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<v Speaker 1>but Steve Kerr realized what he had and I remember

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Steve Kerr, I said, when did you give

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<v Speaker 1>Steph the green light? And he talked about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a moment where you just go, he's taking them,

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<v Speaker 1>He's making those shots. It's one thing to take those shots,

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<v Speaker 1>it's another thing where you go, no, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>make them. As a head coach, you probably are not

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<v Speaker 1>going that's part of our game plan. That's who we are,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how we're going to play. But Steve Kerr, who

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<v Speaker 1>was a great outside shooter, had to embrace that at

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<v Speaker 1>some point and just say, that's what coaches are. Control freaks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they you know, pat Riley famously would coach

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<v Speaker 1>every single possession, Mike Fortello every single possession. They would

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<v Speaker 1>just drain the joy out of the game. And it

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<v Speaker 1>got to the point where some of these coaches had

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<v Speaker 1>to allow their talent to just showcase their talent. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what Steve Kerr is probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>be remembered for that he won, He knew how to win,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew how to blend in. He played a great

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<v Speaker 1>role with Jordan's Bulls as an assistant coach. GM wise,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was decorated. He got fined because

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<v Speaker 1>of one thing he said on this show when he

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<v Speaker 1>was GM of the Phoenix Suns having to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron James. But what he's done now, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>you forget that they go to the finals. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how many times have they gone to the finals with

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Kerr and their favorite to go to the finals

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<v Speaker 1>this year basing the Dallas Mavericks. But I would say

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably a little underrated because this, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Golden State and we talk about the stars.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson got credit, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was difficult to get that credit because

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<v Speaker 1>Michael was so omnipresent and it was like, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Michael Jordan coached by Phil Jackson. And then even

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<v Speaker 1>going to the Lakers, when you have that Marquis talent,

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<v Speaker 1>sometime you get lost in the mix there. When you

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<v Speaker 1>have the plucky underdog team, then we talk about the coach. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>they win forty one and forty one this year. What

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<v Speaker 1>an unbelievable job by that coach. But if you win

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three games, we tend to talk about the talent. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Steve Kerr's playing career. He's known as a clutch shooter,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't start a lot of games, so it's totally mostly

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<v Speaker 1>a bench player. As somebody known as a non clutch player.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they ever label them that? There's a guy his

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<v Speaker 1>team was known as a not clutch player. In his

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<v Speaker 1>last seven seasons in the league, Steve Kerr won seven

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<v Speaker 1>titles without starting one game in the regular season or playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>He also left the Bulls when the Bulls broke up,

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<v Speaker 1>jumped over to the Spurs, got a title, and then

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<v Speaker 1>his last season the Pros before he retired. He got

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<v Speaker 1>one more title with the Spurs. He ended perfectly. But

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<v Speaker 1>his shooting percentage in the playoffs, he's like forty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent from three. Yeah, but how many of those are contested?

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<v Speaker 1>If you have Michael Jordan on your team, odds are

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to get an open look. Just saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But he won two as a role player with the Spurs. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then was he on Popovich's coaching staff after that?

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<v Speaker 1>Checking Okay, I just see him with the USA Basketball

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<v Speaker 1>with Popovitz like twenty seventeen. I thought he was an

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<v Speaker 1>assistant coach. And I remember when he was going to

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<v Speaker 1>coach the Knicks and he turned down Phil Jackson. I went, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>he turned down the Knicks to coach the Warriors. He

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<v Speaker 1>turned down Phil Jackson talk about a great decision. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you can say, hey, you kind of ended up

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<v Speaker 1>on third base with the Warriors, but he was smart

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<v Speaker 1>enough to say no to Phil Jackson. Welcome to the program.

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<v Speaker 1>As you can tell, already in progress. We have basketball

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<v Speaker 1>coming up tonight, Eastern Conference Finals, Celtics at the Heat.

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<v Speaker 1>Heat with a slight favorite going into this game the

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<v Speaker 1>Lightning and Panthers, Blues and Avalanche. With Stanley Cup playoff action,

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger is good to go for the PGA. I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching the coverage yesterday on Golf Channel, and normally when

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching the you know the analysts looking at somebody analyzing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to analyze their swing. You know, maybe they're putting,

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<v Speaker 1>but their swing. They were analyzing Tiger walking. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>looks good. Hey, looks a lot more comfortable. Not as

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<v Speaker 1>measured as he was at Augusta. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>that means. Tiger looked good, you know, But the question

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<v Speaker 1>is the heat is going to be an issue in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is walking better, and I think that was

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<v Speaker 1>the big issue. It wasn't his swing. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>got tired. I think he got tired the last two

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<v Speaker 1>days at Augusta, and you know those scores showed it

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<v Speaker 1>if but that's a tough course to walk. This will

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<v Speaker 1>have the heat as well, and I think that'll be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to see Tiger and the durability if he's able

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<v Speaker 1>to keep that up for four rounds eight seven seven

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<v Speaker 1>A little later on Mike Florio on the curious meeting

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<v Speaker 1>between the NFL and to Shaun Watson this week. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to Florio about that. Also, if the Broncos

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be worth four and a half billion dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the downloads Cowboys worth ten? We'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Florio about some of these items here. The Broncos still

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<v Speaker 1>up for sale. See, you got a poll question for me?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we want to? Oh, you're gonna go? How about?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm just asking because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be insulting. I don't I don't mean to insult someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's been a very good friend of the show. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a fun topic. So is Steve Kerr

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<v Speaker 1>underrated or overrated? We could do that, we could do Uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's another one. Okay, this is again, it's not meant

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<v Speaker 1>to be insulting to anyone. No, that means it's from

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<v Speaker 1>Paully and it's meant to be insulting. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it is from Pauli. Okay, who's had a luckier coaching career,

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<v Speaker 1>luckier Steve Kerr? Phil Jackson Okay, that's you don't pin

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<v Speaker 1>this on me. I'm just saying there's a real there's

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<v Speaker 1>a real skill or an art to being in the

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<v Speaker 1>right place the right time. You know, you can be

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<v Speaker 1>a really good coach, but if you don't have the players,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter. Having had Jerry Krauss in Chicago and

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry West in Los Angeles, boy, that can really help

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<v Speaker 1>a coach out. And give credit to the Golden State Warriors.

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<v Speaker 1>They draft Aside from James Wiseman, they draft really good players.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Klay Thompson was not a household name at

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<v Speaker 1>Washington State, Draymond Greene was a curiosity at Michigan State.

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<v Speaker 1>Steph Curry was undersized, and who's he going to garden

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA? Well, that all worked out. I gotta give

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<v Speaker 1>credit to the front office for doing some heavy lifting

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<v Speaker 1>there as well. Yes, Seed, Okay, how about this? This

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<v Speaker 1>one is not for me. Sports where the head coach

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<v Speaker 1>slash manager is least necessary on game day. Three options

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<v Speaker 1>that were presented are baseball, basketball, and football. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I know it. One's going to finish last in that,

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<v Speaker 1>but football, you gotta have your coach there on game day.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like these most necessary. Yeah, yes, Okay. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>over the past two years, we've seen a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>coaches out, mostly due to COVID, but we've seen actual

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<v Speaker 1>games in the NFL. Let's say the coach is not

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<v Speaker 1>calling the plays. What is the head coaching head coach

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<v Speaker 1>doing if he's not calling the plays during an NFL game.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's doing things, but I'm a guessing they

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<v Speaker 1>could miss him for a day. Well, I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>sort of bringing in information from your different coaches there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think if somebody says something like, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do this or this is the approach. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Belichick famously changes his game plan during a game. He

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<v Speaker 1>changes quarter to quarter, half to half. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how many coaches do that. I know Belichick probably gets

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<v Speaker 1>too much credit there. You know, he takes away your

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<v Speaker 1>biggest weapon. Yep, He's the only coach who's ever thought

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Don't they ever say to somebody like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you took away their best weapon. It's always you know

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<v Speaker 1>Melichick does he takes away your best weapon. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think any other coaches go, uh, we'd do the same

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<v Speaker 1>damn thing. Yes, Tony Ites like you would think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we should double team that guy in basketball he seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be scoring well, No, I rail against that. There

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<v Speaker 1>are times when I go, they're gonna let this guy

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<v Speaker 1>take the game winning shot, and then he makes the

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<v Speaker 1>game winning shot, and then afterwards people go, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>how'd you let him take the game winning shot? Yeah, polling,

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<v Speaker 1>but a football coach doesn't really handle the substitutions. The

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<v Speaker 1>substitutions are based off prescheduled plays and packages. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>not like, man, should I put in Johnson Smith is

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<v Speaker 1>really cold? Basketball coaches have to make decisions about players

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<v Speaker 1>going in and out. Those are made up names on

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<v Speaker 1>that thank you I put in Johnson Smith is called Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a dramatic license. Yeah, but Steve kermised a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of games. I didn't hear anybody say anything the fair

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<v Speaker 1>points Steve Kerr didn't coach, which is the whole jumping

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<v Speaker 1>off point against topics like Steve Kerr overrated or underrated,

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<v Speaker 1>And people think baseball managers are just there to do

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<v Speaker 1>a little bingo bay ye stick. Well, no, they do

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<v Speaker 1>have to overmanage, like day, you know, managers overmanage. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure how many coaches over coach in today's game

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<v Speaker 1>whereas you know, a baseball manager is gonna go m

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to make make a call to the bullpen,

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<v Speaker 1>and then somebody comes in and faces one battern. You

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<v Speaker 1>go up, yep, I'm gonna have to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>bullpen again. Let me go argue this one. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>thrown out for the boys. Yea ye, yes, yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that. The and plus was it Joe Girardi?

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<v Speaker 1>Who has the book? Doesn't he have like a big binder?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was Joe Girardi. He would like have

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<v Speaker 1>a big binder and it had it like every scenario

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<v Speaker 1>you could possibly go to, and he would let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to the binder and see what we're supposed to do

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<v Speaker 1>here where there's you know, two men on two out

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<v Speaker 1>in the seventh and we got a lefty face and

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<v Speaker 1>a righty if Johnson gives it up, bringan smith right, yes, Todd,

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<v Speaker 1>But what's the hockey coach doing? What's the lines are established?

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<v Speaker 1>After this number of minutes? The line two comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy has come down, and the line three comes down?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing during it? Go get the puck.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the puck, We'll get it. Wait on the net.

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<v Speaker 1>Get in the net. You missed it. Get in the net,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, chet, get the check him, check, hit him,

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<v Speaker 1>hut him the boards. Yes, mom, it's a fair point.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume in hockey. I don't know what like

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<v Speaker 1>hockey people do, that the Lions changes are somewhat scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>by time, and that you're like a line two, take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. You guys have done enough work. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go line three, and they're all like whole surprise that

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<v Speaker 1>they're got to make the decision to pull the goalie.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they pull the goal? You gotta pull the goaling,

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<v Speaker 1>pull the goaling. No, they're not gonna pull the goal. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there are hockey fans right now listening to this whose

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<v Speaker 1>minds are exploding. They are like, oh my god, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys know nothing. You guys know nothing about this sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally talking about hockey, and this is what you're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit in the net, direct, direct your criticism to Fritzie.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get the puck, get the check him check. I

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<v Speaker 1>can went over the blue line there, I'm sinking icing

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<v Speaker 1>what is keep getting it all the way down the

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<v Speaker 1>other nic. Let's take a break. We came out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gate on fire. We crushed that segment. Take a break,

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<v Speaker 1>phone call Settle on a poll question, Florio a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on Reggie Miller, a little bit later on

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<v Speaker 1>you got Celtics at the Heat and talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>settle on our poll question, Nick and Cincinnati tweets Marvin

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<v Speaker 1>would be good at shorthanded goals. Oh that was Nick

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<v Speaker 1>and Cincinnati who said that. Just stay come on, Nick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. And by the way, we were questioning all sports,

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<v Speaker 1>not just honey. We didn't even put hockey on the

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<v Speaker 1>poll question there people, why don't we edit it? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then the hockey fans will think we're picking on them.

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<v Speaker 1>Get it in the net. You'd be a great coach

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<v Speaker 1>in a hockey Fritzie. Gotta get the puck, get it.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing what? You can't just skate around

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<v Speaker 1>in circles? Rib a niche in here. Gotta get the

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<v Speaker 1>puck and get it the net out loud. Oh, this problem,

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching hockey the other night with my daughter

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<v Speaker 1>and is the first time we were watching. She was

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<v Speaker 1>asking me hockey questions. And I'm obviously not a hockey expert.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the basics and most of the rules. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was explaining line changes to her and I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the first line are usually the better players

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<v Speaker 1>and then it goes down from there generally, And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I go She goes, why do they assume any line changes? Like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>guys get tired, She goes, why don't they just put

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<v Speaker 1>the best players on for the entire period, then they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be tired equally. And I was like, I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>answer for that, Like I just assumed hockey players would

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<v Speaker 1>drop after a few minutes. Yeah, they I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know how long those uh the shifts, Yeah are I

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<v Speaker 1>think depending? I think it's under three minutes generally. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get us breaking down hockey here. So for people

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<v Speaker 1>who are always on like social media, being like, why

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<v Speaker 1>don't you guys ever talk hockey? This is why, this

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<v Speaker 1>is why we don't talk. Get get in the gold

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<v Speaker 1>in the net, to get it in the net. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys gotta get to Jemmy Malkin. Why aren't you

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<v Speaker 1>talking to blowing it? You guys are flowing in. According

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<v Speaker 1>to some random website, the average hockey shift is forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight point six seconds. Oh okay, wow, Uh some phone

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<v Speaker 1>calls here, Andrew, and Washington is back high. Andrew, what's

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<v Speaker 1>on your mind every morning? Dan? And Danetts hope you

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<v Speaker 1>had a great weekend. Um, real quick. I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a stat of the day, surprise, surprise, But Dan, I

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<v Speaker 1>still had a question for you. We are one step

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<v Speaker 1>closer to the NBA Finals, and I was wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>you put a pie of the face on an NBA

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<v Speaker 1>Finals bet between the Heat and the Golden State Wars

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<v Speaker 1>if they make it there. If the Heat win, you

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<v Speaker 1>take a pie of the face. The Golden State Warriors

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<v Speaker 1>win the championship, I take a pie of thing. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I picked both Golden State in Miami to play for

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA Championship. Well, but you picked Golden State to win,

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<v Speaker 1>and I picked the Heat to Well, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>a winner if both of them get there. Well, you're

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<v Speaker 1>always you're you're winning every day. I don't Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to take a pie to the face just

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<v Speaker 1>because I picked both these teams to go and Miami

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<v Speaker 1>would happen to win. But give me your stat of

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<v Speaker 1>the day there, Andrew, all right? Die rookie benom picture

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Green for the Cincinnati Reds threw thirty nine pitches

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<v Speaker 1>over one hundred miles per hour and a single start.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most by a pitcher in a single

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<v Speaker 1>game since two thousand and eight, and it happened earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this year in what was only Green's second career. Start

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<v Speaker 1>to die, Now it's commonplace. You're throwing you over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred miles an hour. I think there's a college pitcher.

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<v Speaker 1>He might be a Tennessee and he threw one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and five one oh five point like it's like an

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<v Speaker 1>FM station, one oh five point five the flamethrower. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember, was it Terry Mulholland when he threw a

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<v Speaker 1>pitch he broke his arm while delivering the pitch. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think it's Terry or Dave Drevecki. Yeah, Dave Drevecki,

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants, I think did Yeah, so left hander and

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't a hard thrower. I just think at some

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<v Speaker 1>point somebody is going to break their arm throwing a pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you I remember when, I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing Sports Center at the time, and you could hear

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<v Speaker 1>the bone break when Dave Drevecki threw that pitch. Yeah. Point,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been reading about this Tennessee pitcher, and everyone's enthralled

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<v Speaker 1>that he throws that much. Don't we see the inevitable

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<v Speaker 1>ending for guys who throw over one hundred multiple pitches

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<v Speaker 1>in an inning, Yeah, Tommy John. Yeah. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>long ago we had Robed Dibble on the show and

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<v Speaker 1>he told a story about Greg Maddox. He says, Greg

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<v Speaker 1>Maddox used to throw over ninety five when he was

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<v Speaker 1>like a rookie in the first couple of years, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, how about I control it and make it

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two and then eighty seven and vary the speeds

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll have a longer career and more variety of pitches.

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<v Speaker 1>What Maddox figured out, and very few pitchers have followed

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<v Speaker 1>this blueprint is I'm gonna have you get you out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you put the ball in play. And Maddox

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<v Speaker 1>was a great fielder, one gold gloves, many gold gloves,

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<v Speaker 1>I think as a pitcher, because he was ready for

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<v Speaker 1>you to hit the ball. And when he was withsh Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to strike everybody out. And that's really

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<v Speaker 1>like Maddox probably wouldn't have that same philosophy now because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's trying to hit a home run, not put the

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<v Speaker 1>ball in play. But you see these pitchers and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just hey, come on up, throw as hard as

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<v Speaker 1>you can for as long as you can, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. You'll need Tommy John. I mean, Tommy John

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<v Speaker 1>just feels like that's that's the natural progression you have

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<v Speaker 1>as a picture, Like if you had Tommy, you had

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<v Speaker 1>t J. Not yet, all right, let me know when

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<v Speaker 1>you get it, yeah, Paul. So the picture for Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>is named Ben Joyce. And the other day he got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pub because he had pitches of one

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<v Speaker 1>h two, one h three, and one oh four in

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<v Speaker 1>the same at bat well, and then he had an

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<v Speaker 1>off speed pitch, his version off pitch. It was ninety

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<v Speaker 1>one miles an hour. Yeah, Seton, I was just completely

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<v Speaker 1>off topic, but looking at the average length of a

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<v Speaker 1>hockey shift, yeah, uh forty seven seconds, thank you, Seton.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah sounds familiar. Oh did you already say that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Front row headed at forty eight seconds. I think, Oh, okay, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah I missed that. There was a good show going on. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I just thought that was a crazy number,

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<v Speaker 1>but I missed it. Yeah, yes, ton, I thought it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot longer than that. Thank you to him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's so u forty seven seconds. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good shift, dextra. Yeah, not on her end of

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<v Speaker 1>the Yeah. You asked people on her end of the ice,

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<v Speaker 1>and they won't say that. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Fritzie's wife might go her birthday today, shout out, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a five minute major, not a forty seven second

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<v Speaker 1>shif she might not know, she might No, no offense

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<v Speaker 1>made eleven's out of levenade right there. Hockey. Yeah, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>talks hockey better than anyone can. Malcoln's great. Yeah, great, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian and Wisconsin joins us. Hi, Brian, what's on your

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<v Speaker 1>mind today? He first time? Long time. Who you think

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers are gonna trade this offseason? I don't know

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>if they're trading anybody. I said this from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>When the season ended, I was told by somebody around

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers they're gonna try to make Russell Westbrook work,

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought, oh, and any coach who comes in

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<v Speaker 1>has to know that that is a priority. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>make Westbrook work within the system with the Lakers with

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<v Speaker 1>who you have, because I don't know what other options

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<v Speaker 1>they have, But I don't. If you're gonna trade somebody,

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna trade Anthony Davis, You're gonna trade Lebron, who's

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<v Speaker 1>going to invest? What are you getting in return? I

0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:27.640
<v Speaker 1>mean they're really in salary cap and draft pick hell here,

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<v Speaker 1>not much you can do no matter who that coach is.

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<v Speaker 1>And it does feel like, doesn't Quinn Snyder of the

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<v Speaker 1>Jazz look like the coach who should be the coach

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<v Speaker 1>of the Lakers. Hey, they did a movie on the Lakers,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, well, who's gonna play the coach? Quinn Snyder?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have Quinn Snyder play And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to stay in Utah. If he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in Utah, what changes will happen in Utah? Rudy

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<v Speaker 1>Gobert going to be with the new team, what are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to do with Donovan Mitchell? Just feels like

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<v Speaker 1>their window of opportunity is closed as well. Phoenix Suns

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<v Speaker 1>DeAndre eight and what happens with him. Chris Paul gets

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>a year older here, and I look, I get into

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>arguments with former players and they're like, you know, you

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>don't have Chris Paul high enough on your list And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I just think there's a ceiling with Chris Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a wonderful player, but that's Are there

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>other point guards I'd rather have? There are? Chris Paul

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<v Speaker 1>is very good. Hall of Famer, first ballot Hall of Famer,

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a ceiling. That's it. You know, it's a

0:26:36.080 --> 0:26:39.679
<v Speaker 1>glass ceiling. And he hasn't broken through that. And as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I give him credit for being the most

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<v Speaker 1>valuable player on the Phoenix Suns, I also have to

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 1>criticize him as well, you're the most valuable player, you

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>need to step up and he didn't step up. And

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>what is that? Now? Five times in his career he's

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<v Speaker 1>been the point guard on a team that went up

0:26:56.480 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 1>two games to none, which means you had lose four

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<v Speaker 1>the next five. Yeah. One thing about the topic, Chris

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>Paul feels like the last point guard where passing his

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<v Speaker 1>first and shooting a second. I've got the assist leaders

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>here in the NBA. Chris Paul was clearly number one.

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Then you got Harden, Trey Young, Luca, Darius Garland. These

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>are shoot first guys. Darris Garlands the shoot first guy.

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>He's got a lout of assists Jokis, he's a center.

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Lowry is probably the second most point guardish guy

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.760
<v Speaker 1>in the NBA. Yeah, there's very few pass first guys,

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>but it is Luca point guard. This is why we

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 1>get into these designations, and it's dangerous because Scottie Pippen

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<v Speaker 1>was a point forward for the Bulls. Draymond Green is

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a point forward for the Golden State Warriors. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about great point guards of all time, is

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Luca now a better point guard than Chris Paul? Of

0:27:56.600 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>course he is. I mean, if you're gonna say, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the designation just because they put you out

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<v Speaker 1>there as a guard? I mean Lebron Lebron's been a

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<v Speaker 1>point forward, point off guard his entire career. Does anybody

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>say anything about where Lebron is amongst point guards of

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>all time? Is Lebron the greatest point guard of all time?

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just hot, But but you know, we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>that designation. Way, He's six to nine, He's not a

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>point guard, okay, Luca, Yeah, but he's really a forward. Okay.

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.000
<v Speaker 1>He handles the ball more than anybody on the team,

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>leads the team, and assist the same with Lebron. So

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>if you reclassify point guards here. You know Magic was

0:28:46.360 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Unicorn. But if if Magic was a forward,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say he was listed as a forward, but he

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<v Speaker 1>still played the way he did, would we say he's

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<v Speaker 1>a point guard? Now, Magic was a true point guard.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know Lebron came in and he was a

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<v Speaker 1>pass first guy, but he wasn't labeled a point guard

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>because Cleveland had Eric Snow at the time. Well, Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>was the point guard there. But I don't think if

0:29:15.520 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>you see look at look at greatest point guards of

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>all time, Paulie, just see what random list comes up

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and see if Lebron James's name is on there. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna guess it's not. I've got two in front

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>of me and he's nowhere near it. He's not. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not considered a Why Why That's why it's flawed when

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>we start labeling these players. They have they have a

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>stat called player touches, which basically means how much how

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>long a guy a player in the NBA touches the

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>ball at anyone possession. Luca don Chick led the league

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>with it's like nine point three seconds per possession. The

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 1>ball is in his hands, that's the most in the league.

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Oscar was the first oversized point guard. Oscar was six five,

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 1>probably two hundred and thirty pounds, and he had great athleticism,

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>but he was bigger than everybody out there. And you know,

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>so he was the first of his kind because before that,

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<v Speaker 1>you had your point guard was you know, the preeminent

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>point guard was Bob Kuzy. Well, Bob Kuzy was what

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>six foot one eight. Oscar came in and that just

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>changed the whole dynamic at that position. It took a

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<v Speaker 1>while for players to at that size be able to

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<v Speaker 1>do what Oscar did. You know, Jerry West was six

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>four six five, but he wasn't even listed as the

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 1>point guard. I think he had. Gail Goodrich was the

0:30:35.480 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>point guard and he was known as a shooter. But

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<v Speaker 1>the whole who's a point guard and who's not a

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<v Speaker 1>point guard? I'm waiting to see a list where somebody

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:47.959
<v Speaker 1>says Magic's the greatest point guard of all time. Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>is the second greatest point guard of all time. But

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if if does Luca have to petition

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the NBA to say I'd like to be listed as

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>a point guard, Like what else does he need to

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<v Speaker 1>do how he plays outside shots, assists like he dribbles

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>as much as Trey Young does. And Trey Young's a

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>point guard. That's why when you know you have these

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>if Luca is six four, six three, then we go, oh, yeah,

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>he's a point guard. It's well, you can't be a

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 1>point guard if you're over six five. Well, it's flawed.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:30.719
<v Speaker 1>It's like the All NBA team, you shouldn't have a center,

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>two forwards, and two guards because that's not what the

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>game is. What is a center now? A center now

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>is not what a center used to be. And even

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>these players who are six five, six six six seven

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>sixty eight handling the ball at all times they guards.

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Is Lebron a forward? Lebron's usually listed on the All

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>NBA team as a forward. I think he's not a forward, yeah, Polly.

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Basketball Reference was tracks players and also tracks what their

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>designation is. When Luca was a rookie, he was designated

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>as a shooting guard in the official books for the NBA.

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>The past three years, according to Basketball Reference, he's been

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 1>listed as a point guard point guard. On the Dallas

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Mavericks website, he's listed as guard, forward, dashguard, forward, hyphen guard,

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>So he might be listed technically as a point guard

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>and it just hasn't picked up yet. Why do you

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>have to list him as anything? I mean, that's the problem.

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Lebron doesn't have a position. Yeah, I'm reading a thing

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>here that says Lebron James has officially been classified as

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a point guard for two seasons in his career, in

0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen twenty twenty and then twenty twenty twenty twenty one.

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Wait wait, who said, okay, you're finally a point guard.

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>How did they come up with that designation that he

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>has a certain number of assists or that he's handling

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the ball as certain amount And is it like one

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>of those things where you know, the tight end end

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.000
<v Speaker 1>wants to be classified as a wide receiver or you know,

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>whichever the Maybe I have that backwards where the wide

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 1>receiver wants to be a tight end. Whoever makes more

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>money wants to be the wide receiver just because it's

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>like a money thing. I don't know that the money

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>has to do in the NBA, but maybe there's a

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 1>more official reason for designating them unless it's making the

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>All NBA team and it's easier to do that as

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>a forward than a guard. Yes, I see it's right.

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Go back to nineteen twenty nineteen, Lebron James at training

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>camp was designated as a point guard. That season, he

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>led the league at ten point two assists, and that's

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>his career high as well. So I wonder if he

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>went into the locker room during training camp it said

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>changed by because only he could change his designation. The

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>team can't do it without like player permission. I wonder

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 1>if you went into guys have an announcement to make no. Yeah,

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>but if Joe ll en bead says I want to

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>be listed as a shooting guard, can you do it?

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I think you can. Lebron did, and then he decided

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to lead the league and assists. He's been a point

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>guard his entire career. It's silly. It's like Steph Curry

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>is not a point guard. He's a points guard. He scores.

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Draymond is a better point guard. He's a point forward,

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 1>a better passer. Like the numbers show that, don't they all? Right,

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>let me take a break. That's the little things that

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.880
<v Speaker 1>bother me. Yes, Marv, And next same we're going to

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0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 1>We're hockey guys now, Thank you, Paul Coffee Reference could

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.840
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0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:42.320
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<v Speaker 1>don't think it was a World Series of thing as

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<v Speaker 1>a playoff game, and the news broke as Jordan was

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<v Speaker 1>there to throw out the first pitch. Jordan's up in

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<v Speaker 1>the skybox with Ryan'sdorf from those guys from the Sox.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember when you guys got it in the

0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Sports Center newsroom that night? I don't remember, but I

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<v Speaker 1>did call a Shoe executive and I said, is this

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<v Speaker 1>is this real? Somebody at night? Yes, it is this

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<v Speaker 1>reel and they said yes, and they said, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we can go with it because we weren't quite sure

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<v Speaker 1>and there was there was just a lot of talk

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<v Speaker 1>that was going on, and I had gotten worried about

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan taking batting practice. And this is from the same

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<v Speaker 1>Nike executive. He said, uh, keep an eye on Michael

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<v Speaker 1>taking batting practice. Now he was taking it in the

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<v Speaker 1>cage underneath the stadium, I believe, And I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>it's so random. I said, well, what do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>keeping on Michael taking batting practice? And he said, just

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<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on him. And I just was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is Michael gonna, you know, be part of home run derby?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he gonna be out there prior to the game

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<v Speaker 1>with the White Sox, you know, taking BP? And then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, keep an eye on Michael in

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<v Speaker 1>the batting cage. Yep, absolutely right, Chris and Vermont. Hi, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>what's on your mind today? Five? Three? Thank you very little.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta stat of the day. Yankees this year it

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<v Speaker 1>started off the sixteen and six, which would make the

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<v Speaker 1>seventh time that they started a seed in sixteen and six.

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<v Speaker 1>But prior to six years they started sixteen and six,

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<v Speaker 1>they went to the World Series. Of those six years

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<v Speaker 1>they won the World Series five times. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Chris. The Yankees, right now are twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>and nine. The last time they had a better record

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<v Speaker 1>through their first thirty five games was nineteen thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>when they were twenty eight and seven. Stat of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>saut of the day, that past out of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Stat of the day? Here comes that? What staut of

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<v Speaker 1>the day? Nick? In California? Hi? Nick? What's on your

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<v Speaker 1>mind today? Hey? Dan A five nine solid two ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you haven't touched on it yet regards to

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<v Speaker 1>what Jerry Jones said, but I had a question for you.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Dallas Mavericks win the finals, Howard Jerry Jones

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<v Speaker 1>still that Mark Cuban got his second championship in about

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<v Speaker 1>eleven years and Jerry Jones still having gotten his in thirties?

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<v Speaker 1>What was the comment or comments about the Jerry? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it me saying that we're quoting Jerry that the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>could be worth ten billion dollars? Yeah? Came out and

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<v Speaker 1>said that he could sound for ten billions. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he might be able to. But I'm sure that that

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<v Speaker 1>does leave him a little frosty. If Mark Cuban gets

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<v Speaker 1>his team even back into the NBA finals there, yeah, point,

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<v Speaker 1>why are the Cowboys worth more than any other team

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Or is that just hyperbole? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>fan base that much bigger than others? Yeah? Okay, because

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>they're not successful, no, no, but but they're still financially

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 1>that fan base. Yeah, that fan base is bigger than

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else. And that's why you get former players who

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<v Speaker 1>get an opportunity to be an analyst over just about

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>any other team. You know, Tony Romo was a good quarterback.

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Nobody knew if he would be any good at this.

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Jason Witton got a chance on Monday Night Football. Why

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>he was a cowboy. Jason Witton plays for the Bengals.

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 1>He didn't get a chance to do that. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a cowboy, you know, Troy Aikman got an opportunity,

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<v Speaker 1>and Troy's turned out to be very good, But it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like you're going to get a better chance if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a doubt. With Michael Irvin Emmett, they tried to

0:41:33.040 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>make him do an analyst and he wasn't good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you get that opportunity because people know who you are.

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>You're with the Cowboys, and people know you either they

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<v Speaker 1>like you or you know, they despised you because of

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<v Speaker 1>how good you were. But yeah, Jerry, at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you got to start looking around, going maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the problems me. Do you think Jerry ever says that?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he ever says to his son, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think the problem could be me? Nah? Can't

0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>be me? Just a coincidence that we haven't won. What

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<v Speaker 1>are we up? Thirty years now? Something like that. They

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:16.080
<v Speaker 1>had a great run, though. I still look back, and

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>when Jimmy Johnson left, it felt like Jimmy held Jerry accountable.

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:25.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think Jimmy got more credit than Jerry probably

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 1>thought he deserved. Looking back, Oh, I think he deserved

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