Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I was walking over to my side of
Speaker 1: the man cave and I overhear Seton O'Connors say to
Speaker 1: the other Dan Ence, do you think Steve Kerr's overrated?
Speaker 1: And I went, wow, that's a bomb show. Yeah, Seton,
Speaker 1: I think I said, do you think Steve Kerr's overrated
Speaker 1: or underrated? Oh? I didn't hear the under Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said overrated or underrated? If you had to pick one. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that's maybe a pull question. All right, is Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: underrated or overrated? Did you know that he's missed a
Speaker 1: couple of games coaching? Like what other sport can you
Speaker 1: miss a playoff game as a coach or a manager?
Speaker 1: And you go, no big deal, I'll be good Mike Brown,
Speaker 1: the interim head coach. But Steve Kerr, Steve Kerr's going
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Now, you might say he
Speaker 1: inherited a pretty good roster. No, you can say he
Speaker 1: inherited a pretty good roster. You got Steph Curry, you
Speaker 1: got Clay Thomson and Draymond Green. Although at the time
Speaker 1: time when he got those players, we didn't know that
Speaker 1: they were going to turn out to be hold of famers.
Speaker 1: I think there was still a question mark with Steph
Speaker 1: Curry with his ankle, is he going to be able
Speaker 1: to withstand the rigors of the NBA. But Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: has done pretty well taking over Mark Jackson's team. Yeah, seton.
Speaker 1: Some people call that being born on third, born on third.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's fair, but but he did
Speaker 1: well on third. Yes, he's done very well on third. Okay, yes, points.
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr showed up with the Warriors in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: I think that was his first ever coaching job, right,
Speaker 1: he was a GM just with Phoenix Sons. So his
Speaker 1: first ever coaching job was Curry Durant Curry those guys.
Speaker 1: He was sixty seven to fifteen his first year. Okay,
Speaker 1: seventy three wins next year. Okay, it's not supposed to
Speaker 1: be that easy. But he was also an assistant coach
Speaker 1: with Greg Popovich for quite a few years. He also
Speaker 1: was with Michael Jordan with the Bulls. How many championships
Speaker 1: does he have? How many? How many titles does was
Speaker 1: he a part of as a player, assistant coach and
Speaker 1: a head coach as Hunt I know five as a player,
Speaker 1: three as a coach. Dude, that's eighth right there. Ready,
Speaker 1: how many as an assistant coach. I'm gonna guess he
Speaker 1: won a couple with the San Antonio Spurs, so he's decorated.
Speaker 1: Is he overrated or underrated? Yeah? You could say he's
Speaker 1: very good at keeping the drama down out there. It
Speaker 1: seems like he keeps things cool, supports his players to
Speaker 1: the hilt, and that's a big part of managing a team,
Speaker 1: not coaching a team. Well, I also think you learned
Speaker 1: from Popovich and Phil Jackson on how to handle stars
Speaker 1: and Phil. I mean you could look at Phil and
Speaker 1: go he's pretty lucky. He lucked into the Bowls, you know,
Speaker 1: when they fired Doug Collins and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you inherit, Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: And then he hand picked the Lakers. It's like Shack
Speaker 1: and Kobe. H I think I can make those guys champions. Yeah. Seton.
Speaker 1: It's a great point about being able to keep drama down,
Speaker 1: because just bringing in a player like Kevin Durant and
Speaker 1: then having him leave right away, the amount of drama
Speaker 1: that really must have been going on there, and it
Speaker 1: really only kind of simmered, it never really boiled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we're starting to hear dribs and drabs of
Speaker 1: what exactly was going on at the time, and Draymond
Speaker 1: Green and Kevin Durant and you know, they recruited him
Speaker 1: to come and play with them, and then he leaves
Speaker 1: and then there's a little bit of bad blood there.
Speaker 1: But Steve Kerr underrated or overrated. I guess I'm going
Speaker 1: to say he's underrated with his ability to tap into
Speaker 1: the talent that he had and make them even better offensively,
Speaker 1: because defensively, people always underestimated the Golden State Warriors. Defensively,
Speaker 1: there were a good defensive team. I don't know where
Speaker 1: they ranked now, but with Clay and Draymond, those are
Speaker 1: really good defenders. Mark Jackson emphasized defense with that team.
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr came in and said, we're going to emphasize
Speaker 1: offense and really changed the sport. Steph Curry changed the sport,
Speaker 1: but Steve Kerr realized what he had and I remember
Speaker 1: talking to Steve Kerr, I said, when did you give
Speaker 1: Steph the green light? And he talked about you know,
Speaker 1: there was a moment where you just go, he's taking them,
Speaker 1: He's making those shots. It's one thing to take those shots,
Speaker 1: it's another thing where you go, no, he's going to
Speaker 1: make them. As a head coach, you probably are not
Speaker 1: going that's part of our game plan. That's who we are,
Speaker 1: that's how we're going to play. But Steve Kerr, who
Speaker 1: was a great outside shooter, had to embrace that at
Speaker 1: some point and just say, that's what coaches are. Control freaks,
Speaker 1: you know they you know, pat Riley famously would coach
Speaker 1: every single possession, Mike Fortello every single possession. They would
Speaker 1: just drain the joy out of the game. And it
Speaker 1: got to the point where some of these coaches had
Speaker 1: to allow their talent to just showcase their talent. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what Steve Kerr is probably going to
Speaker 1: be remembered for that he won, He knew how to win,
Speaker 1: he knew how to blend in. He played a great
Speaker 1: role with Jordan's Bulls as an assistant coach. GM wise,
Speaker 1: I don't think he was decorated. He got fined because
Speaker 1: of one thing he said on this show when he
Speaker 1: was GM of the Phoenix Suns having to do with
Speaker 1: Lebron James. But what he's done now, because I think
Speaker 1: you forget that they go to the finals. I mean,
Speaker 1: how many times have they gone to the finals with
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr and their favorite to go to the finals
Speaker 1: this year basing the Dallas Mavericks. But I would say
Speaker 1: he's probably a little underrated because this, you know, we
Speaker 1: talk about Golden State and we talk about the stars.
Speaker 1: It's almost like Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson got credit, but
Speaker 1: I think that was difficult to get that credit because
Speaker 1: Michael was so omnipresent and it was like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is Michael Jordan coached by Phil Jackson. And then even
Speaker 1: going to the Lakers, when you have that Marquis talent,
Speaker 1: sometime you get lost in the mix there. When you
Speaker 1: have the plucky underdog team, then we talk about the coach. Wow,
Speaker 1: they win forty one and forty one this year. What
Speaker 1: an unbelievable job by that coach. But if you win
Speaker 1: seventy three games, we tend to talk about the talent. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Here's Steve Kerr's playing career. He's known as a clutch shooter,
Speaker 1: didn't start a lot of games, so it's totally mostly
Speaker 1: a bench player. As somebody known as a non clutch player.
Speaker 1: Do they ever label them that? There's a guy his
Speaker 1: team was known as a not clutch player. In his
Speaker 1: last seven seasons in the league, Steve Kerr won seven
Speaker 1: titles without starting one game in the regular season or playoffs.
Speaker 1: He also left the Bulls when the Bulls broke up,
Speaker 1: jumped over to the Spurs, got a title, and then
Speaker 1: his last season the Pros before he retired. He got
Speaker 1: one more title with the Spurs. He ended perfectly. But
Speaker 1: his shooting percentage in the playoffs, he's like forty five
Speaker 1: percent from three. Yeah, but how many of those are contested?
Speaker 1: If you have Michael Jordan on your team, odds are
Speaker 1: you're probably going to get an open look. Just saying.
Speaker 1: But he won two as a role player with the Spurs. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then was he on Popovich's coaching staff after that?
Speaker 1: Checking Okay, I just see him with the USA Basketball
Speaker 1: with Popovitz like twenty seventeen. I thought he was an
Speaker 1: assistant coach. And I remember when he was going to
Speaker 1: coach the Knicks and he turned down Phil Jackson. I went, wow,
Speaker 1: he turned down the Knicks to coach the Warriors. He
Speaker 1: turned down Phil Jackson talk about a great decision. I
Speaker 1: mean you can say, hey, you kind of ended up
Speaker 1: on third base with the Warriors, but he was smart
Speaker 1: enough to say no to Phil Jackson. Welcome to the program.
Speaker 1: As you can tell, already in progress. We have basketball
Speaker 1: coming up tonight, Eastern Conference Finals, Celtics at the Heat.
Speaker 1: Heat with a slight favorite going into this game the
Speaker 1: Lightning and Panthers, Blues and Avalanche. With Stanley Cup playoff action,
Speaker 1: Tiger is good to go for the PGA. I was
Speaker 1: watching the coverage yesterday on Golf Channel, and normally when
Speaker 1: you're watching the you know the analysts looking at somebody analyzing.
Speaker 1: They're going to analyze their swing. You know, maybe they're putting,
Speaker 1: but their swing. They were analyzing Tiger walking. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: looks good. Hey, looks a lot more comfortable. Not as
Speaker 1: measured as he was at Augusta. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that means. Tiger looked good, you know, But the question
Speaker 1: is the heat is going to be an issue in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: But he is walking better, and I think that was
Speaker 1: the big issue. It wasn't his swing. I think he
Speaker 1: got tired. I think he got tired the last two
Speaker 1: days at Augusta, and you know those scores showed it
Speaker 1: if but that's a tough course to walk. This will
Speaker 1: have the heat as well, and I think that'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see Tiger and the durability if he's able
Speaker 1: to keep that up for four rounds eight seven seven
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Speaker 1: up for sale. See, you got a poll question for me?
Speaker 1: Do we want to? Oh, you're gonna go? How about?
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just asking because I don't want to
Speaker 1: be insulting. I don't I don't mean to insult someone
Speaker 1: who's been a very good friend of the show. But
Speaker 1: it's kind of a fun topic. So is Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: underrated or overrated? We could do that, we could do Uh, well,
Speaker 1: here's another one. Okay, this is again, it's not meant
Speaker 1: to be insulting to anyone. No, that means it's from
Speaker 1: Paully and it's meant to be insulting. I don't think
Speaker 1: it is from Pauli. Okay, who's had a luckier coaching career,
Speaker 1: luckier Steve Kerr? Phil Jackson Okay, that's you don't pin
Speaker 1: this on me. I'm just saying there's a real there's
Speaker 1: a real skill or an art to being in the
Speaker 1: right place the right time. You know, you can be
Speaker 1: a really good coach, but if you don't have the players,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Having had Jerry Krauss in Chicago and
Speaker 1: Jerry West in Los Angeles, boy, that can really help
Speaker 1: a coach out. And give credit to the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 1: They draft Aside from James Wiseman, they draft really good players.
Speaker 1: I mean, Klay Thompson was not a household name at
Speaker 1: Washington State, Draymond Greene was a curiosity at Michigan State.
Speaker 1: Steph Curry was undersized, and who's he going to garden
Speaker 1: the NBA? Well, that all worked out. I gotta give
Speaker 1: credit to the front office for doing some heavy lifting
Speaker 1: there as well. Yes, Seed, Okay, how about this? This
Speaker 1: one is not for me. Sports where the head coach
Speaker 1: slash manager is least necessary on game day. Three options
Speaker 1: that were presented are baseball, basketball, and football. I think
Speaker 1: I know it. One's going to finish last in that,
Speaker 1: but football, you gotta have your coach there on game day.
Speaker 1: It feels like these most necessary. Yeah, yes, Okay. Now,
Speaker 1: over the past two years, we've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: coaches out, mostly due to COVID, but we've seen actual
Speaker 1: games in the NFL. Let's say the coach is not
Speaker 1: calling the plays. What is the head coaching head coach
Speaker 1: doing if he's not calling the plays during an NFL game.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's doing things, but I'm a guessing they
Speaker 1: could miss him for a day. Well, I think you're
Speaker 1: sort of bringing in information from your different coaches there,
Speaker 1: and I think if somebody says something like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: going to do this or this is the approach. You know,
Speaker 1: Belichick famously changes his game plan during a game. He
Speaker 1: changes quarter to quarter, half to half. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many coaches do that. I know Belichick probably gets
Speaker 1: too much credit there. You know, he takes away your
Speaker 1: biggest weapon. Yep, He's the only coach who's ever thought
Speaker 1: of this. Don't they ever say to somebody like, hey,
Speaker 1: you took away their best weapon. It's always you know
Speaker 1: Melichick does he takes away your best weapon. Do you
Speaker 1: think any other coaches go, uh, we'd do the same
Speaker 1: damn thing. Yes, Tony Ites like you would think maybe
Speaker 1: we should double team that guy in basketball he seems
Speaker 1: to be scoring well, No, I rail against that. There
Speaker 1: are times when I go, they're gonna let this guy
Speaker 1: take the game winning shot, and then he makes the
Speaker 1: game winning shot, and then afterwards people go, oh my god,
Speaker 1: how'd you let him take the game winning shot? Yeah, polling,
Speaker 1: but a football coach doesn't really handle the substitutions. The
Speaker 1: substitutions are based off prescheduled plays and packages. So he's
Speaker 1: not like, man, should I put in Johnson Smith is
Speaker 1: really cold? Basketball coaches have to make decisions about players
Speaker 1: going in and out. Those are made up names on
Speaker 1: that thank you I put in Johnson Smith is called Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a dramatic license. Yeah, but Steve kermised a couple
Speaker 1: of games. I didn't hear anybody say anything the fair
Speaker 1: points Steve Kerr didn't coach, which is the whole jumping
Speaker 1: off point against topics like Steve Kerr overrated or underrated,
Speaker 1: And people think baseball managers are just there to do
Speaker 1: a little bingo bay ye stick. Well, no, they do
Speaker 1: have to overmanage, like day, you know, managers overmanage. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure how many coaches over coach in today's game
Speaker 1: whereas you know, a baseball manager is gonna go m
Speaker 1: gonna have to make make a call to the bullpen,
Speaker 1: and then somebody comes in and faces one battern. You
Speaker 1: go up, yep, I'm gonna have to go to the
Speaker 1: bullpen again. Let me go argue this one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: thrown out for the boys. Yea ye, yes, yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't know that. The and plus was it Joe Girardi?
Speaker 1: Who has the book? Doesn't he have like a big binder?
Speaker 1: I think it was Joe Girardi. He would like have
Speaker 1: a big binder and it had it like every scenario
Speaker 1: you could possibly go to, and he would let's go
Speaker 1: to the binder and see what we're supposed to do
Speaker 1: here where there's you know, two men on two out
Speaker 1: in the seventh and we got a lefty face and
Speaker 1: a righty if Johnson gives it up, bringan smith right, yes, Todd,
Speaker 1: But what's the hockey coach doing? What's the lines are established?
Speaker 1: After this number of minutes? The line two comes out,
Speaker 1: this guy has come down, and the line three comes down?
Speaker 1: What are you doing during it? Go get the puck.
Speaker 1: That's the puck, We'll get it. Wait on the net.
Speaker 1: Get in the net. You missed it. Get in the net,
Speaker 1: thank you, chet, get the check him, check, hit him,
Speaker 1: hut him the boards. Yes, mom, it's a fair point.
Speaker 1: I would assume in hockey. I don't know what like
Speaker 1: hockey people do, that the Lions changes are somewhat scheduled
Speaker 1: by time, and that you're like a line two, take
Speaker 1: a break. You guys have done enough work. They're gonna
Speaker 1: go line three, and they're all like whole surprise that
Speaker 1: they're got to make the decision to pull the goalie.
Speaker 1: Do they pull the goal? You gotta pull the goaling,
Speaker 1: pull the goaling. No, they're not gonna pull the goal. Yes,
Speaker 1: there are hockey fans right now listening to this whose
Speaker 1: minds are exploding. They are like, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: guys know nothing. You guys know nothing about this sport.
Speaker 1: Finally talking about hockey, and this is what you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: Hit in the net, direct, direct your criticism to Fritzie.
Speaker 1: Don't get the puck, get the check him check. I
Speaker 1: can went over the blue line there, I'm sinking icing
Speaker 1: what is keep getting it all the way down the
Speaker 1: other nic. Let's take a break. We came out of
Speaker 1: the gate on fire. We crushed that segment. Take a break,
Speaker 1: phone call Settle on a poll question, Florio a little
Speaker 1: bit later on Reggie Miller, a little bit later on
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Speaker 1: settle on our poll question, Nick and Cincinnati tweets Marvin
Speaker 1: would be good at shorthanded goals. Oh that was Nick
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati who said that. Just stay come on, Nick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. And by the way, we were questioning all sports,
Speaker 1: not just honey. We didn't even put hockey on the
Speaker 1: poll question there people, why don't we edit it? Well,
Speaker 1: then the hockey fans will think we're picking on them.
Speaker 1: Get it in the net. You'd be a great coach
Speaker 1: in a hockey Fritzie. Gotta get the puck, get it.
Speaker 1: What are you doing what? You can't just skate around
Speaker 1: in circles? Rib a niche in here. Gotta get the
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Speaker 1: I was watching hockey the other night with my daughter
Speaker 1: and is the first time we were watching. She was
Speaker 1: asking me hockey questions. And I'm obviously not a hockey expert.
Speaker 1: I know the basics and most of the rules. But
Speaker 1: I was explaining line changes to her and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the first line are usually the better players
Speaker 1: and then it goes down from there generally, And uh,
Speaker 1: I go She goes, why do they assume any line changes? Like, well,
Speaker 1: guys get tired, She goes, why don't they just put
Speaker 1: the best players on for the entire period, then they'll
Speaker 1: be tired equally. And I was like, I didn't even
Speaker 1: answer for that, Like I just assumed hockey players would
Speaker 1: drop after a few minutes. Yeah, they I don't even
Speaker 1: know how long those uh the shifts, Yeah are I
Speaker 1: think depending? I think it's under three minutes generally. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll get us breaking down hockey here. So for people
Speaker 1: who are always on like social media, being like, why
Speaker 1: don't you guys ever talk hockey? This is why, this
Speaker 1: is why we don't talk. Get get in the gold
Speaker 1: in the net, to get it in the net. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys gotta get to Jemmy Malkin. Why aren't you
Speaker 1: talking to blowing it? You guys are flowing in. According
Speaker 1: to some random website, the average hockey shift is forty
Speaker 1: eight point six seconds. Oh okay, wow, Uh some phone
Speaker 1: calls here, Andrew, and Washington is back high. Andrew, what's
Speaker 1: on your mind every morning? Dan? And Danetts hope you
Speaker 1: had a great weekend. Um, real quick. I do have
Speaker 1: a stat of the day, surprise, surprise, But Dan, I
Speaker 1: still had a question for you. We are one step
Speaker 1: closer to the NBA Finals, and I was wondering if
Speaker 1: you put a pie of the face on an NBA
Speaker 1: Finals bet between the Heat and the Golden State Wars
Speaker 1: if they make it there. If the Heat win, you
Speaker 1: take a pie of the face. The Golden State Warriors
Speaker 1: win the championship, I take a pie of thing. No.
Speaker 1: I picked both Golden State in Miami to play for
Speaker 1: the NBA Championship. Well, but you picked Golden State to win,
Speaker 1: and I picked the Heat to Well, I feel like
Speaker 1: a winner if both of them get there. Well, you're
Speaker 1: always you're you're winning every day. I don't Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to take a pie to the face just
Speaker 1: because I picked both these teams to go and Miami
Speaker 1: would happen to win. But give me your stat of
Speaker 1: the day there, Andrew, all right? Die rookie benom picture
Speaker 1: Hunter Green for the Cincinnati Reds threw thirty nine pitches
Speaker 1: over one hundred miles per hour and a single start.
Speaker 1: This is the most by a pitcher in a single
Speaker 1: game since two thousand and eight, and it happened earlier
Speaker 1: this year in what was only Green's second career. Start
Speaker 1: to die, Now it's commonplace. You're throwing you over one
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour. I think there's a college pitcher.
Speaker 1: He might be a Tennessee and he threw one hundred
Speaker 1: and five one oh five point like it's like an
Speaker 1: FM station, one oh five point five the flamethrower. Do
Speaker 1: you remember, was it Terry Mulholland when he threw a
Speaker 1: pitch he broke his arm while delivering the pitch. I
Speaker 1: think I think it's Terry or Dave Drevecki. Yeah, Dave Drevecki,
Speaker 1: the Giants, I think did Yeah, so left hander and
Speaker 1: he wasn't a hard thrower. I just think at some
Speaker 1: point somebody is going to break their arm throwing a pitch.
Speaker 1: And if you I remember when, I think I was
Speaker 1: doing Sports Center at the time, and you could hear
Speaker 1: the bone break when Dave Drevecki threw that pitch. Yeah. Point,
Speaker 1: I've been reading about this Tennessee pitcher, and everyone's enthralled
Speaker 1: that he throws that much. Don't we see the inevitable
Speaker 1: ending for guys who throw over one hundred multiple pitches
Speaker 1: in an inning, Yeah, Tommy John. Yeah. And I remember
Speaker 1: long ago we had Robed Dibble on the show and
Speaker 1: he told a story about Greg Maddox. He says, Greg
Speaker 1: Maddox used to throw over ninety five when he was
Speaker 1: like a rookie in the first couple of years, and
Speaker 1: he said, how about I control it and make it
Speaker 1: ninety two and then eighty seven and vary the speeds
Speaker 1: and I'll have a longer career and more variety of pitches.
Speaker 1: What Maddox figured out, and very few pitchers have followed
Speaker 1: this blueprint is I'm gonna have you get you out.
Speaker 1: I'll let you put the ball in play. And Maddox
Speaker 1: was a great fielder, one gold gloves, many gold gloves,
Speaker 1: I think as a pitcher, because he was ready for
Speaker 1: you to hit the ball. And when he was withsh Chicago,
Speaker 1: he was trying to strike everybody out. And that's really
Speaker 1: like Maddox probably wouldn't have that same philosophy now because
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to hit a home run, not put the
Speaker 1: ball in play. But you see these pitchers and it's
Speaker 1: it's just hey, come on up, throw as hard as
Speaker 1: you can for as long as you can, and then
Speaker 1: that's it. You'll need Tommy John. I mean, Tommy John
Speaker 1: just feels like that's that's the natural progression you have
Speaker 1: as a picture, Like if you had Tommy, you had
Speaker 1: t J. Not yet, all right, let me know when
Speaker 1: you get it, yeah, Paul. So the picture for Tennessee
Speaker 1: is named Ben Joyce. And the other day he got
Speaker 1: a lot of pub because he had pitches of one
Speaker 1: h two, one h three, and one oh four in
Speaker 1: the same at bat well, and then he had an
Speaker 1: off speed pitch, his version off pitch. It was ninety
Speaker 1: one miles an hour. Yeah, Seton, I was just completely
Speaker 1: off topic, but looking at the average length of a
Speaker 1: hockey shift, yeah, uh forty seven seconds, thank you, Seton.
Speaker 1: Yeah sounds familiar. Oh did you already say that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Front row headed at forty eight seconds. I think, Oh, okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: yeah I missed that. There was a good show going on. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I just thought that was a crazy number,
Speaker 1: but I missed it. Yeah, yes, ton, I thought it'd
Speaker 1: be a lot longer than that. Thank you to him.
Speaker 1: That's what's so u forty seven seconds. It is a
Speaker 1: pretty good shift, dextra. Yeah, not on her end of
Speaker 1: the Yeah. You asked people on her end of the ice,
Speaker 1: and they won't say that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Fritzie's wife might go her birthday today, shout out, well,
Speaker 1: that's a five minute major, not a forty seven second
Speaker 1: shif she might not know, she might No, no offense
Speaker 1: made eleven's out of levenade right there. Hockey. Yeah, nobody
Speaker 1: talks hockey better than anyone can. Malcoln's great. Yeah, great, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brian and Wisconsin joins us. Hi, Brian, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? He first time? Long time. Who you think
Speaker 1: the Lakers are gonna trade this offseason? I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're trading anybody. I said this from the beginning.
Speaker 1: When the season ended, I was told by somebody around
Speaker 1: the Lakers they're gonna try to make Russell Westbrook work,
Speaker 1: And I thought, oh, and any coach who comes in
Speaker 1: has to know that that is a priority. You gotta
Speaker 1: make Westbrook work within the system with the Lakers with
Speaker 1: who you have, because I don't know what other options
Speaker 1: they have, But I don't. If you're gonna trade somebody,
Speaker 1: you're gonna trade Anthony Davis, You're gonna trade Lebron, who's
Speaker 1: going to invest? What are you getting in return? I
Speaker 1: mean they're really in salary cap and draft pick hell here,
Speaker 1: not much you can do no matter who that coach is.
Speaker 1: And it does feel like, doesn't Quinn Snyder of the
Speaker 1: Jazz look like the coach who should be the coach
Speaker 1: of the Lakers. Hey, they did a movie on the Lakers,
Speaker 1: and you go, well, who's gonna play the coach? Quinn Snyder?
Speaker 1: We'll have Quinn Snyder play And I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's going to stay in Utah. If he wants to
Speaker 1: stay in Utah, what changes will happen in Utah? Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert going to be with the new team, what are
Speaker 1: they going to do with Donovan Mitchell? Just feels like
Speaker 1: their window of opportunity is closed as well. Phoenix Suns
Speaker 1: DeAndre eight and what happens with him. Chris Paul gets
Speaker 1: a year older here, and I look, I get into
Speaker 1: arguments with former players and they're like, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't have Chris Paul high enough on your list And
Speaker 1: I said, I just think there's a ceiling with Chris Paul.
Speaker 1: I think he's a wonderful player, but that's Are there
Speaker 1: other point guards I'd rather have? There are? Chris Paul
Speaker 1: is very good. Hall of Famer, first ballot Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: But there's a ceiling. That's it. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: glass ceiling. And he hasn't broken through that. And as
Speaker 1: much as I give him credit for being the most
Speaker 1: valuable player on the Phoenix Suns, I also have to
Speaker 1: criticize him as well, you're the most valuable player, you
Speaker 1: need to step up and he didn't step up. And
Speaker 1: what is that? Now? Five times in his career he's
Speaker 1: been the point guard on a team that went up
Speaker 1: two games to none, which means you had lose four
Speaker 1: the next five. Yeah. One thing about the topic, Chris
Speaker 1: Paul feels like the last point guard where passing his
Speaker 1: first and shooting a second. I've got the assist leaders
Speaker 1: here in the NBA. Chris Paul was clearly number one.
Speaker 1: Then you got Harden, Trey Young, Luca, Darius Garland. These
Speaker 1: are shoot first guys. Darris Garlands the shoot first guy.
Speaker 1: He's got a lout of assists Jokis, he's a center.
Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry is probably the second most point guardish guy
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Yeah, there's very few pass first guys,
Speaker 1: but it is Luca point guard. This is why we
Speaker 1: get into these designations, and it's dangerous because Scottie Pippen
Speaker 1: was a point forward for the Bulls. Draymond Green is
Speaker 1: a point forward for the Golden State Warriors. But when
Speaker 1: you talk about great point guards of all time, is
Speaker 1: Luca now a better point guard than Chris Paul? Of
Speaker 1: course he is. I mean, if you're gonna say, wait,
Speaker 1: what is the designation just because they put you out
Speaker 1: there as a guard? I mean Lebron Lebron's been a
Speaker 1: point forward, point off guard his entire career. Does anybody
Speaker 1: say anything about where Lebron is amongst point guards of
Speaker 1: all time? Is Lebron the greatest point guard of all time?
Speaker 1: I'm just hot, But but you know, we don't have
Speaker 1: that designation. Way, He's six to nine, He's not a
Speaker 1: point guard, okay, Luca, Yeah, but he's really a forward. Okay.
Speaker 1: He handles the ball more than anybody on the team,
Speaker 1: leads the team, and assist the same with Lebron. So
Speaker 1: if you reclassify point guards here. You know Magic was
Speaker 1: you know, the Unicorn. But if if Magic was a forward,
Speaker 1: let's say he was listed as a forward, but he
Speaker 1: still played the way he did, would we say he's
Speaker 1: a point guard? Now, Magic was a true point guard.
Speaker 1: But you know Lebron came in and he was a
Speaker 1: pass first guy, but he wasn't labeled a point guard
Speaker 1: because Cleveland had Eric Snow at the time. Well, Lebron
Speaker 1: was the point guard there. But I don't think if
Speaker 1: you see look at look at greatest point guards of
Speaker 1: all time, Paulie, just see what random list comes up
Speaker 1: and see if Lebron James's name is on there. Because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess it's not. I've got two in front
Speaker 1: of me and he's nowhere near it. He's not. He's
Speaker 1: not considered a Why Why That's why it's flawed when
Speaker 1: we start labeling these players. They have they have a
Speaker 1: stat called player touches, which basically means how much how
Speaker 1: long a guy a player in the NBA touches the
Speaker 1: ball at anyone possession. Luca don Chick led the league
Speaker 1: with it's like nine point three seconds per possession. The
Speaker 1: ball is in his hands, that's the most in the league.
Speaker 1: Oscar was the first oversized point guard. Oscar was six five,
Speaker 1: probably two hundred and thirty pounds, and he had great athleticism,
Speaker 1: but he was bigger than everybody out there. And you know,
Speaker 1: so he was the first of his kind because before that,
Speaker 1: you had your point guard was you know, the preeminent
Speaker 1: point guard was Bob Kuzy. Well, Bob Kuzy was what
Speaker 1: six foot one eight. Oscar came in and that just
Speaker 1: changed the whole dynamic at that position. It took a
Speaker 1: while for players to at that size be able to
Speaker 1: do what Oscar did. You know, Jerry West was six
Speaker 1: four six five, but he wasn't even listed as the
Speaker 1: point guard. I think he had. Gail Goodrich was the
Speaker 1: point guard and he was known as a shooter. But
Speaker 1: the whole who's a point guard and who's not a
Speaker 1: point guard? I'm waiting to see a list where somebody
Speaker 1: says Magic's the greatest point guard of all time. Lebron
Speaker 1: is the second greatest point guard of all time. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if if does Luca have to petition
Speaker 1: the NBA to say I'd like to be listed as
Speaker 1: a point guard, Like what else does he need to
Speaker 1: do how he plays outside shots, assists like he dribbles
Speaker 1: as much as Trey Young does. And Trey Young's a
Speaker 1: point guard. That's why when you know you have these
Speaker 1: if Luca is six four, six three, then we go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a point guard. It's well, you can't be a
Speaker 1: point guard if you're over six five. Well, it's flawed.
Speaker 1: It's like the All NBA team, you shouldn't have a center,
Speaker 1: two forwards, and two guards because that's not what the
Speaker 1: game is. What is a center now? A center now
Speaker 1: is not what a center used to be. And even
Speaker 1: these players who are six five, six six six seven
Speaker 1: sixty eight handling the ball at all times they guards.
Speaker 1: Is Lebron a forward? Lebron's usually listed on the All
Speaker 1: NBA team as a forward. I think he's not a forward, yeah, Polly.
Speaker 1: Basketball Reference was tracks players and also tracks what their
Speaker 1: designation is. When Luca was a rookie, he was designated
Speaker 1: as a shooting guard in the official books for the NBA.
Speaker 1: The past three years, according to Basketball Reference, he's been
Speaker 1: listed as a point guard point guard. On the Dallas
Speaker 1: Mavericks website, he's listed as guard, forward, dashguard, forward, hyphen guard,
Speaker 1: So he might be listed technically as a point guard
Speaker 1: and it just hasn't picked up yet. Why do you
Speaker 1: have to list him as anything? I mean, that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Lebron doesn't have a position. Yeah, I'm reading a thing
Speaker 1: here that says Lebron James has officially been classified as
Speaker 1: a point guard for two seasons in his career, in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen twenty twenty and then twenty twenty twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, who said, okay, you're finally a point guard.
Speaker 1: How did they come up with that designation that he
Speaker 1: has a certain number of assists or that he's handling
Speaker 1: the ball as certain amount And is it like one
Speaker 1: of those things where you know, the tight end end
Speaker 1: wants to be classified as a wide receiver or you know,
Speaker 1: whichever the Maybe I have that backwards where the wide
Speaker 1: receiver wants to be a tight end. Whoever makes more
Speaker 1: money wants to be the wide receiver just because it's
Speaker 1: like a money thing. I don't know that the money
Speaker 1: has to do in the NBA, but maybe there's a
Speaker 1: more official reason for designating them unless it's making the
Speaker 1: All NBA team and it's easier to do that as
Speaker 1: a forward than a guard. Yes, I see it's right.
Speaker 1: Go back to nineteen twenty nineteen, Lebron James at training
Speaker 1: camp was designated as a point guard. That season, he
Speaker 1: led the league at ten point two assists, and that's
Speaker 1: his career high as well. So I wonder if he
Speaker 1: went into the locker room during training camp it said
Speaker 1: changed by because only he could change his designation. The
Speaker 1: team can't do it without like player permission. I wonder
Speaker 1: if you went into guys have an announcement to make no. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if Joe ll en bead says I want to
Speaker 1: be listed as a shooting guard, can you do it?
Speaker 1: I think you can. Lebron did, and then he decided
Speaker 1: to lead the league and assists. He's been a point
Speaker 1: guard his entire career. It's silly. It's like Steph Curry
Speaker 1: is not a point guard. He's a points guard. He scores.
Speaker 1: Draymond is a better point guard. He's a point forward,
Speaker 1: a better passer. Like the numbers show that, don't they all? Right,
Speaker 1: let me take a break. That's the little things that
Speaker 1: bother me. Yes, Marv, And next same we're going to
Speaker 1: see if Paul Coffee can be more than Jesse defense me.
Speaker 1: We're hockey guys now, Thank you, Paul Coffee Reference could
Speaker 1: have done a little better than that. That's who I know. Sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mark Messier, we have some suggestions, Mike and Orlando. We
Speaker 1: have a new T shirt. Forty seven seconds is a
Speaker 1: good shift. Yeah, thank you Mike, but take a break.
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Speaker 1: I was watching a replay of the Jordan Bulls documentary
Speaker 1: and the clip that was on was when Jordan retired
Speaker 1: from the Bulls the first time, and he was at
Speaker 1: the White Sox game. You were hosting Sports Center that night,
Speaker 1: and I think it was Had O'Brien was at the
Speaker 1: baseball game, the White Sox World Series playoff game. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was a World Series of thing as
Speaker 1: a playoff game, and the news broke as Jordan was
Speaker 1: there to throw out the first pitch. Jordan's up in
Speaker 1: the skybox with Ryan'sdorf from those guys from the Sox.
Speaker 1: Do you remember when you guys got it in the
Speaker 1: Sports Center newsroom that night? I don't remember, but I
Speaker 1: did call a Shoe executive and I said, is this
Speaker 1: is this real? Somebody at night? Yes, it is this
Speaker 1: reel and they said yes, and they said, all right,
Speaker 1: we can go with it because we weren't quite sure
Speaker 1: and there was there was just a lot of talk
Speaker 1: that was going on, and I had gotten worried about
Speaker 1: Jordan taking batting practice. And this is from the same
Speaker 1: Nike executive. He said, uh, keep an eye on Michael
Speaker 1: taking batting practice. Now he was taking it in the
Speaker 1: cage underneath the stadium, I believe, And I just thought
Speaker 1: it's so random. I said, well, what do you mean
Speaker 1: keeping on Michael taking batting practice? And he said, just
Speaker 1: keep an eye on him. And I just was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: is Michael gonna, you know, be part of home run derby?
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be out there prior to the game
Speaker 1: with the White Sox, you know, taking BP? And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, keep an eye on Michael in
Speaker 1: the batting cage. Yep, absolutely right, Chris and Vermont. Hi, Chris,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Five? Three? Thank you very little.
Speaker 1: I gotta stat of the day. Yankees this year it
Speaker 1: started off the sixteen and six, which would make the
Speaker 1: seventh time that they started a seed in sixteen and six.
Speaker 1: But prior to six years they started sixteen and six,
Speaker 1: they went to the World Series. Of those six years
Speaker 1: they won the World Series five times. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you, Chris. The Yankees, right now are twenty six
Speaker 1: and nine. The last time they had a better record
Speaker 1: through their first thirty five games was nineteen thirty nine
Speaker 1: when they were twenty eight and seven. Stat of the day,
Speaker 1: saut of the day, that past out of the day.
Speaker 1: Stat of the day? Here comes that? What staut of
Speaker 1: the day? Nick? In California? Hi? Nick? What's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Hey? Dan A five nine solid two ten.
Speaker 1: I know you haven't touched on it yet regards to
Speaker 1: what Jerry Jones said, but I had a question for you.
Speaker 1: If the Dallas Mavericks win the finals, Howard Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: still that Mark Cuban got his second championship in about
Speaker 1: eleven years and Jerry Jones still having gotten his in thirties?
Speaker 1: What was the comment or comments about the Jerry? Was
Speaker 1: it me saying that we're quoting Jerry that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: could be worth ten billion dollars? Yeah? Came out and
Speaker 1: said that he could sound for ten billions. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he might be able to. But I'm sure that that
Speaker 1: does leave him a little frosty. If Mark Cuban gets
Speaker 1: his team even back into the NBA finals there, yeah, point,
Speaker 1: why are the Cowboys worth more than any other team
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Or is that just hyperbole? Is there
Speaker 1: fan base that much bigger than others? Yeah? Okay, because
Speaker 1: they're not successful, no, no, but but they're still financially
Speaker 1: that fan base. Yeah, that fan base is bigger than
Speaker 1: anybody else. And that's why you get former players who
Speaker 1: get an opportunity to be an analyst over just about
Speaker 1: any other team. You know, Tony Romo was a good quarterback.
Speaker 1: Nobody knew if he would be any good at this.
Speaker 1: Jason Witton got a chance on Monday Night Football. Why
Speaker 1: he was a cowboy. Jason Witton plays for the Bengals.
Speaker 1: He didn't get a chance to do that. But if
Speaker 1: you're a cowboy, you know, Troy Aikman got an opportunity,
Speaker 1: and Troy's turned out to be very good, But it
Speaker 1: feels like you're going to get a better chance if
Speaker 1: you're a doubt. With Michael Irvin Emmett, they tried to
Speaker 1: make him do an analyst and he wasn't good at it.
Speaker 1: But you get that opportunity because people know who you are.
Speaker 1: You're with the Cowboys, and people know you either they
Speaker 1: like you or you know, they despised you because of
Speaker 1: how good you were. But yeah, Jerry, at some point,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to start looking around, going maybe
Speaker 1: the problems me. Do you think Jerry ever says that?
Speaker 1: Do you think he ever says to his son, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you think the problem could be me? Nah? Can't
Speaker 1: be me? Just a coincidence that we haven't won. What
Speaker 1: are we up? Thirty years now? Something like that. They
Speaker 1: had a great run, though. I still look back, and
Speaker 1: when Jimmy Johnson left, it felt like Jimmy held Jerry accountable.
Speaker 1: And I think Jimmy got more credit than Jerry probably
Speaker 1: thought he deserved. Looking back, Oh, I think he deserved
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