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Speaker 1: Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast.

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Speaker 2: You'll meet for all things.

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Speaker 3: And exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers.

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Speaker 1: Stop seeing what's up you guys. Welcome back into iHeartRadio's

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Speaker 1: official wrestling podcast, the Battleground Podcast. I am joined by

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Speaker 1: my tag team partner Eli and Man. There is so

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Speaker 1: many things going on during WrestleMania week, but the thing

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people are going to not WrestleMania.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of people there, But the

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Speaker 1: thing that we're going to that we're excited about is

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Speaker 1: Wrestle Kan where you get to get up close in

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Speaker 1: person with some of your favorite wrestlers and divas and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. And joining us today, somebody who is

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Speaker 1: gonna be at Wrestle Kan who you're gonna meet, Maybe

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Speaker 1: she'll hit you with a Kendos stick. Give it up

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Speaker 1: for Jasmine Saint Claire joining this for you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. And yes, maybe if someone's lefty,

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Speaker 3: l beat them with a kindowstick. Possibly.

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Speaker 4: I bet you that comes with a higher price tag too.

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Speaker 4: I think you got to pay extra for that, right,

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Speaker 4: I think so?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, but there are times when we've worked

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Speaker 3: with people who wanted me to hit them harder, and

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Speaker 3: then I say to myself, wait, what do you do

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Speaker 3: in your spare time?

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Speaker 1: Right right right, You're like, I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: want to do that, and it's not worth the money

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Speaker 1: to hit you that because I'm not good into that.

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Speaker 1: But let's let's kind of dive into We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: all things wrestling, all things wrestle con and you know

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Speaker 1: one thing, you had a very well known and acclaimed

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Speaker 1: profession before you got into wrestling. What inspired you to

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Speaker 1: make the jump to the world of professional wrestling.

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Speaker 3: Well, I grew up watching wrestling on TV, so I

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Speaker 3: grew up watching like Miss Elizabeth Cherry Martel. Later on,

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed watching women's work, Nancy Sullivan. She's one of

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Speaker 3: my favorites. Then, you know, it was an opportunity where

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Speaker 3: Rob Black was doing something with E CW with Paul Hayman, Like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they had planned, but they brought

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Speaker 3: me in for a pay per view, and I just

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Speaker 3: wanted to go back. You know, there was no place

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Speaker 3: for me after dealing with you know, low rent people

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Speaker 3: and you know those adult film those movies. Am I

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Speaker 3: allowed to say adult films?

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Speaker 1: I just people haven't figured out what we're talking about now,

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Speaker 1: then they obviously don't know.

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Speaker 3: I had better things to do with my time, and

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Speaker 3: I really loved training because I was trained to wrestle originally,

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Speaker 3: but because of my size, I was always used as

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Speaker 3: it was just a great jump, and I quit working

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Speaker 3: for ROB completely and I just went over to e

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Speaker 3: to train with, like Stephen Regal and those guys.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll plug this real quick. I plug it on

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Speaker 4: my every other show. So I'm from Jackson, Tennessee. So

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Speaker 4: Memphis wrestling is like a mecca for me. When you

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Speaker 4: say Jay Lawler, I've watched more.

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Speaker 2: Matches of his than I can remember. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: that's a I just want to chime in on that.

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Speaker 4: So, speaking of ECW, you know, they were an independent

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Speaker 4: wrestling company, but they obviously changed the world.

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Speaker 2: We're still talking about them today.

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Speaker 4: Not a lot of people get to, you know, not

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Speaker 2: What was the atmosphere like during.

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Speaker 4: Your time with ECW, not only inside the ring with

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. So I feel as though behind

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Speaker 3: the scenes, first of all, let's go there. It was

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Speaker 3: very supportive. It reminds me very much of what JCW

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Speaker 3: just saying that because I worked there, but that's really

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Speaker 3: one thing I noticed in ECW, and everyone was just

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Speaker 3: ring times fifty. Sandman is a brawler that will, you know,

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Speaker 3: So it's great. It was a great thing. Could it

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Speaker 3: ever be recreated. I don't know, but I feel as

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Speaker 3: though it's something. It was sex and violence and that's

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And you know, kind of staying there with the whole

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Speaker 1: and you talked about how you started training as wrestling,

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Speaker 1: and that was the thing. What was the toughest part

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Speaker 3: The unexpected? You know, you don't know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: If you're prepared to protect yourself. I have this rule

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Speaker 3: you know what, you know what's going on in the ring,

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Speaker 3: you know where your spots are. You got to protect yourself.

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Speaker 3: It was crazy. I was trained by Mando Guerrero and

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Speaker 3: Sue Sexton who worked for Glow at one point. Yeah, people,

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Speaker 3: basis supplex me both and those guys. It was, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was very different, Like you know, you're just not

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Speaker 2: Best right right.

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Speaker 4: It's always we always ask that question because some people

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Speaker 4: but they're like that first bump knocked the win out

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Speaker 3: Like, I was always athletic growing up, so nothing came

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Speaker 3: But I just wasn't sure, like if I was being

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Speaker 3: here twenty six years later, So whatever the formula was,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. You know.

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Speaker 4: Recently, former w w ant Biggie uh was asked about

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Speaker 4: He was quoted saying he'd rather get hit with a

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Speaker 2: Why do you think the kindo stick.

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Speaker 4: Has kind of become almost like the symbol for hard

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Speaker 2: I think really because of BCW.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because of Sandman obviously. Yeah, yeah, so unusual. I've

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Speaker 3: Upon my last return to XPW, I use it on

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Speaker 3: some shows, but that's really if you you could really

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Speaker 3: hurt someone with that, if you don't loosen it the

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Speaker 3: right way, you don't like them, you know. I guess

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Speaker 3: things happen. I think it's because Sandman brought it up

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Speaker 3: and that's why it's associated with hardcore wrestling, and no

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Speaker 4: I think people don't realize that stuff's gimmicked and they

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Speaker 4: kind of think, oh, it's a kindowstick a little it's

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Speaker 2: You can do some damage with that thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you can't exactly go walking around the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's while we Uh I went

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Speaker 2: And they let him.

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Speaker 1: They one of the guys handed it to him and

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Speaker 1: that's awesome, And I had to explain to him. I

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Speaker 1: But you know something that we've noticed here and I've.

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Speaker 4: Do you think there's room in the modern landscape for

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Speaker 4: the like the Josie promotions are overseas it's really sport

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Speaker 4: based and it's athletic base, and it's going to be

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Speaker 3: There's room for it. It's possible. I mean, I actually know.

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Speaker 3: I think if there was room for it, it would have

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Speaker 3: been done already. You know, I don't know what the

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Speaker 3: So we're not saying that the American market is misogynistic

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Speaker 3: or backwards. It's just the way it is, right, and

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Speaker 3: it's you know, you have great women wrestlers that are

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Speaker 3: you know, Lisa, Marie Varnlucim Marie. Then you have MEDUSA

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Speaker 3: people like that. But nowadays it's just it's too much.

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Speaker 3: And if you want to watch it like all women's

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Speaker 3: then you know, then formula only or something.

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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about the big events, Wrestle Khan taking

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Speaker 4: place April seventeenth, the twentieth at the Westgate, Las Vegas

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Speaker 4: Resort and Casino. Uh T gets available at Russell Thinks,

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Speaker 2: This is where I went, I think.

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Speaker 4: So yes, So for those who don't know, maybe give

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Speaker 4: little history and then you know, and then specifically how

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Speaker 4: you got involved with the Russell Kan Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's been around for a while. They usually have

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Speaker 3: it every weekend when there's WrestleMania, but I think this

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Speaker 3: year they expanded. They had it in our last year,

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Speaker 3: so they had it in Indiana. They're doing one around

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Speaker 3: the time of Summer Slam in New Jersey, but the

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Speaker 4: We'll spare you going through our back catalog, which you

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Speaker 2: No, let me be honest, it is Eli's top one.

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Speaker 3: I get your photos. I know you guys have belts,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: It's just such a fun event.

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Speaker 3: I want to And that's like you said, it's an experience.

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Speaker 3: It's a whole experience. So that don't walk off when

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Speaker 2: I'll do my best uff like please missed me right now?

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Speaker 4: So, speaking of uh, you know, signings and stuff, have

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Speaker 3: See, there was never really a first edition. That guy

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Speaker 3: want to read about your life. I'd much rather live

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Speaker 3: It just seems like so time consuming. I had a

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Speaker 2: A commic Oh yes, of course.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I just we're actually emailing this morning, so

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Speaker 2: That piggy back off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well the name of the show is

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to show a lot. It was simplistic.

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Speaker 3: Everything was in the story.

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Speaker 2: But there's a limit for your audience. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm excited. Though, So if I do the book,

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Speaker 4: Well, by the time you're ready, I mean, you'll have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't even read that trash out there. You know.

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Speaker 3: I hope his dick falls off or something.

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Speaker 1: You know, I know that there's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: going on for you. You've still got some things to

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Speaker 1: plan for Restlaicant and everything. But before we let you go,

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Speaker 1: we kind of want to know, with your time being

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Speaker 1: a funny Paul Hayman story that you could share with us?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Sure, there are a couple. I think the best

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Speaker 3: one was five minutes before or ten minutes before going

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Speaker 3: after the ring, He's describing this pile driver off of

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Speaker 3: the top broa and like right after he's like, so,

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Speaker 3: do you feel comfortable doing that? I'm like, yeah, okay, sure,

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Speaker 3: Uh it's just a very funny way to approach someone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that.

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Speaker 3: Then he was he had me going on this whole

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Speaker 3: thing with Screen Actors Guild. And then it's just he

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Speaker 3: worded the lettering differently. Well, no, it's not sad, it's

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Speaker 3: a fag. I'm like, huh, so you had me going

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Speaker 3: on this whole thing once. But I mean for the

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Speaker 3: most part I kept it very professional with him, and

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Speaker 3: he was always really nice. But that was a I

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Speaker 3: think that story sticks out in my brain for a while.

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Speaker 3: So many things could have fun wrong that night was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, well, Jasmine, we don't want to take up

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Speaker 1: too much your time. I know you still got more

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Speaker 1: you let you go, anything you want to say to

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