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Speaker 2: Do you want to us?

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Speaker 3: Is doing?

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Speaker 1: Will be long too?

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Speaker 4: It's time to beg.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, Monday, Monday. Can't trust that day. Get

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Speaker 2: fired up. Hey, it's morning combat. It's back in your

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Speaker 2: absolute facehole and it's Monday, January twentieth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: We will be reacting to all things you have C

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Speaker 2: three to eleven come origin now over the weekend, looking

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Speaker 2: ahead to UFC three thirteen and some big teases from

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Speaker 2: the Big Turkey. But until then, welcome on in on

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Speaker 2: this Monday morning. Brian Campbell, the beij Bastardo at your services,

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Speaker 2: one half of the hosting duo and from the capital

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Speaker 2: of Ustados de Unitos. Hey, that's Luke Thomas right there.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly the way you say it, yes.

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Speaker 2: And the third member of our team, Reginald J. Campbell.

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Speaker 1: All right, get the hip hop horn for the reg.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: There?

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Speaker 2: He is, Luke. What a time to be a fight fan.

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Speaker 2: It was fun this weekend. I'm fired up, dude. I

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Speaker 2: even died all the grays out of my hair this

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Speaker 2: morning in anticipation of the show.

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Speaker 1: Trying to save that marriage. Huh.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what full life, dude, Okay, it's full life.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you my only real complaint about UFC

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Speaker 2: Does it have anything to do with the Nelk Boys,

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Speaker 2: the Paul brothers and Connor McGregor getting in a minibus

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, uh no, I'll just leave it

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Speaker 1: My only real complaint A couple of decisions, well, a

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Speaker 1: I just wish the main event would have been longer.

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Speaker 1: That's it. It was just too short. And I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Twenty four hours notice top pound for

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Damn Warl, why don't you talk to you?

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Speaker 2: You are Meenian Brethren, who was like, yo, I got

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Speaker 2: a secret that you guys don't know about, a move

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Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently that was pulling his back. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: the secret movie. The secret move was out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go. And what do you think about

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Speaker 2: Dana being like, no, no, no, you're not getting another

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Speaker 1: I actually think it's if you know what, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about it. I'm sure. I'm just gonna tell you straight up.

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Speaker 1: Dana's right, Dana. I don't say this very often. Dana's right,

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Speaker 1: and I fully support him doing that, and I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you why on the show today.

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Speaker 2: Well, there we go with that coming attractions right there.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you can like this show, subscribe to what

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Speaker 2: Plenty of good content, by the way, going on in

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Speaker 2: that Broski Showbiz the adult right one of the.

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Speaker 1: I do not know him. I know you're close with him,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I had him on the Brian Campbell Experience over

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Speaker 2: the weekend in a sort of state of Boxing twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five chat. Lot of charisma coming out of the

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Speaker 2: two of us, so check that out. I'm sure, Luke,

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Speaker 2: there's some goodies over there on Luke Thomas Live.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I mean I just posted a breakdown of

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Speaker 1: Yuri versus Jamal, so watch it before the UFC takes

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Speaker 2: There you go, There you go, luc Let's welcome in

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Speaker 2: the fourth member of our team. They call him Bong Island, Luke.

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Speaker 2: He's from his dad's ball sak via Australia.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that's a little mine.

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Speaker 5: Reggie's third.

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Speaker 1: Give us an update, long a Bong Island, Luke, How

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, take it out on the youth, right BC.

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Speaker 1: Did you go see any terrible bands yesterday?

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Speaker 2: because we got hit here finally in the CT Luke,

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Luke.

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Speaker 2: pulse check, a life check, because you know you and

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Speaker 2: Ariel Hawani apparently had the best weekends of anyone we

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Speaker 2: did well. His Bills advanced your Skins advances ah Met

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Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen this much passion since Mel Gibson put

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Speaker 2: reach the show at our email of Morning Combat Combat

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Speaker 2: excuse me at gmail dot com. Luke. Final bit of

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Speaker 2: in our Quervo UFC three eleven Morning Combat pregame preview

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Speaker 2: Rebirth on Friday. Thank you to the Donks for watching

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Speaker 2: and Luke, I mean it's a little bit of inbreeding,

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. All right, Luke, if you're ready,

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Speaker 2: I'm ready. Let's get into the weekend that was over

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Speaker 2: Topic number one UFC three eleven, the best fighter in

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Speaker 2: What does all of that say about how truly special

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Speaker 2: the thirty three year old Mahachev is right now as

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Speaker 2: the pound for pound king of this sport.

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Speaker 1: I said it, Uh excuse me on Saturday night, I'll

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Speaker 1: repeat part of that here BC, which is I know

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Speaker 1: there was this debate about who was really the pound

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Speaker 1: Mma or excuse me, is it to Islam Makhachev? And

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Speaker 1: exaggeration to say he looked bad. However, just considered the circumstance.

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Speaker 1: You can clearly detect how much of a difference there is.

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Speaker 1: He has been deserving to be the number one pound

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Speaker 2: I mean. Look, I love the social media post from

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Speaker 2: basically trying to squash this pound for pound debate that

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Speaker 2: we've spoke about ad nauseum. So why don't we go

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Speaker 2: why don't we hear it from the horse's mouth, as

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Speaker 2: Luke likes to say, Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you not think that's a real saying?

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Speaker 2: It is? Luke? But you know you got to pick

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Speaker 2: your people and your time in your moments. All right,

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Speaker 2: all right? I mean would you say that about John Elway? Right?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I guess I gotta be clear. I don't

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Speaker 2: We could share it off camera, Luke, you know part

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Speaker 3: I told you, I said it publicly, he said, Brother,

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Speaker 3: So came out and did what you're supposed to do

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Speaker 1: And actually, like I said, I've seen a lot of

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Speaker 3: He's already the pound for pound number one run yours. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'll give it to him. Happy as everybody happy. Now,

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Speaker 2: All right, Luke, uh, you know that man took the

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Speaker 2: l we at least for this week. Islam's his pound

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Speaker 2: Let's hear him.

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Speaker 1: With this wednesnight.

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Speaker 6: Islam fifteen straight wins, second longest in history behind Anderson Silva,

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Speaker 6: and now the most lightweight title defenses. Do you feel

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it. I mean, he's the pound

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Speaker 2: So Luke, we said, coming in, like, what would he

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with that. I think that part is

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Speaker 1: just say, experience in a bare minimum competitor in hanatsu

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Speaker 1: Waikano tells you about the talent level, but you can't.

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Speaker 1: you actually did. Did he demonstrate how much better he

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Speaker 1: This one, I don't know what to make of this one.

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Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, Like, there's the the early

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes the UFC will do that. Remember when Steve

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Speaker 2: pay brooke the title defense record at heavyweight, it was

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Speaker 2: if it's unfair for me to bring that up, Luke,

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Speaker 2: But then when you find out what we did in

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Speaker 2: That's what I want to know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're joking, which I'm glad you are,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, have you ever been in a wrestling room.

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Speaker 1: That's about one of the more common warm ups you'll

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Speaker 1: It's a very common thing. Anyway, I'll say this BC,

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Speaker 2: So are you trying to say without saying, that he

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Speaker 1: Islam might still be here. I don't know about that part.

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Speaker 1: This happened to him. I honestly believe. I think it's

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Speaker 2: It's a very favorable pro Armenia take. Although I'm not

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Speaker 2: You're not concerned at all about everything else. I mean,

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Speaker 1: He needs to do work to reinflate it. I'm not

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Speaker 1: Him getting pushed to the back of the line, whether

434
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Speaker 1: by hook or by crook, enables him to actually rectify

435
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 1: this process. I honestly believe it depends how he plays it. BC.

436
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 1: If he plays it bad and you know who knows

437
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,119
Speaker 1: how he takes it, that's a different story. But if

438
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 1: he takes it the right way, I'm telling you this

439
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 1: is better for him long term.

440
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Speaker 3: All right?

441
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,360
Speaker 2: Do you believe in any of the Twitter collusion that's

442
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 2: out there that because Moikano and Arman have the same

443
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 2: trainer in Polumpa from what is that American top team,

444
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 2: that maybe they knew, maybe maybe Team Moikano knew that

445
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 2: Sarukin was going to pull out, so he made sure

446
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: to make championship. Wait, does it make in your eyes?

447
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: We'd be speculating, but I wouldn't be surprised.

448
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess it helped keep the main

449
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 2: event together, So I'm not going to focus on that.

450
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 2: Here's what I want to focus on. The fight that

451
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 2: I told you a week ago when we looked ahead

452
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, was the number one fight I

453
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 2: want to see, even though it's not perfect right in

454
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 2: terms of where they're at in their divisions, but it's

455
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Speaker 2: Islam Mahachev the Pomp for Pound King against Ilia Taporia,

456
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 2: the number two best fighter in the world in my rankings,

457
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Speaker 2: the number one fighter at the very tip of your

458
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 2: bon air at the moment, Luke, to be fair with you,

459
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 2: and I'm not talking about the Caribbean island, per se.

460
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 2: I gotta get a reaction about this tweet that came

461
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,359
Speaker 2: out from Tuporia immediately after the fight ended, in which

462
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 2: he said, Islam, if I want to, I can finish you.

463
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: If I want to, I can knock you out. I'll

464
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 2: make it look easy. See you soon, yoel Ormero. I

465
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Speaker 2: added the last part, Luke, dude, I get it, you'd

466
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: probably for Islam Shavkat. But tell me this isn't one

467
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: of the biggest fights UFC can make. Tell me this

468
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: isn't potentially the literal best matchup, meaning the two best

469
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 2: fighters in the world in my Pomp for pond top

470
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: ten years might differ going up against each other. It's

471
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: the ultimate. Hey, Ilia looks great, but let's find out

472
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 2: if he's actually all time great? Right now? Why would

473
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 2: you not buckle up for this? Why would the UFC

474
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 2: not throw themselves at this matchup?

475
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Speaker 1: I have to say I think that I'm gonna put aside. However,

476
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: I personally feel about the bout and just look at

477
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: the tea leaves here or reach try to read them.

478
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I'll say this at a bear.

479
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: This is my bare minimum. My bare minimum on this

480
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: PC is. I think the likelihood of that Taporia fight

481
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: went up significantly after Saturday, because if you're the UFC,

482
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: think about it. Okay, it's lightweight, You're really never going

483
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: to be out of contenders. It's not like Flyway or

484
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: it's like you're just like literally signing guys from other

485
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: organsations like title shot right away, light Way. It's not

486
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: like that. However, look at what happened. They had a

487
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: number one contender, a deserving number one contender, but he

488
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: got injured, and you know, again there's a question like

489
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: whether this was really the right moment for him. I

490
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: don't think that it was. But he fizzles out at

491
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: the finish line. Then they're like, all right, let's get

492
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: the number ten ranked guy to give it a shot,

493
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: and he gets wiped out basically inside of four minutes.

494
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,239
Speaker 1: You got a question to ask yourself, what is an

495
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: effective use of your time promotionally? What is an effective

496
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: use of Islam's time as a title holder and number

497
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Speaker 1: one pound for pound guy, Like, who should this guy

498
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: be fighting with the remaining time that he has left.

499
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: It's not any other fighter on the roster. It's the

500
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Speaker 1: number one guy. How about the number two guy? I mean, like,

501
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: it just makes it so much more likely because A,

502
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 1: this guy is selling it into Poria. B. You probably

503
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: even UBC would agree. I would pick Islam to win,

504
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: but on the feet, I do think to Poria could

505
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: absolutely knock him out. And for all these other reasons,

506
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 1: like would Lightway kind of be in a mess at

507
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: one seventy the door seems closed for now or whatever. Dude,

508
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: I think the Tuporia fight is a lot more likely

509
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: than it once was.

510
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I would love it. I'd go crazy. You already

511
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: know all the reasons why, and Ilia was I'm sorry.

512
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 2: Islam was asked about it at the postfight press conference,

513
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: and he kind of reiterated what he said in the cage.

514
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: I loved what he said in the cage by the

515
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 2: way he held up the belt and said, hey, look,

516
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: anyone can come fight for this. Get in line, get

517
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: across from me. In the cage, he said the same

518
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 2: thing about the prospect of Ilia. He basically said, if

519
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 2: the UFC wants it, let's do it. But Ali Abdelazi's

520
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: manager to the Stars, did tweet out on Sunday the

521
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Speaker 2: UFC has a completely different plan for Islam, which does

522
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 2: not include olivera Arman or Ilia. But it's an unpredictable

523
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 2: sport and you don't know what can happen. Luke, if

524
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Speaker 2: that's coming from the manager, that leads you to believe

525
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: there's higher end discussions about Islam potentially moving up. So

526
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Speaker 2: I want to get your take, but I first want

527
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: to play this sound from the post fight pressor of Islam.

528
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 2: I'm telling us that he might not be just in

529
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: this for the idea of becoming a two division champion.

530
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: He might want to be three divisions.

531
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: Also, guys, give me deciense, that's it.

532
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: I will fight with the the perceived.

533
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: They give me the sense. I will fight with Simmos.

534
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: I swear. If then now White send me contract, I

535
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: will fight with.

536
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 6: Thank you well to take that a step further, as

537
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 6: Lama Ali told me, you could fight at two oh

538
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 6: five and beat Alex Prayer.

539
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 4: Not too much, it's too much.

540
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: What were your feelings towards more. I need to know.

541
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: I need the DC diet program to be two. You

542
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: just have to take a shot at DC. You're very

543
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: mean to DC. DC also bring to a locker room

544
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: for me, means I'm they kiddus.

545
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: Now he did.

546
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: He brought those Russians. Those Russians beat up on DC

547
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: for being fat every chance they get every day, being hilarious.

548
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: He actually brought pastries as a as a gift to

549
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: Islam after the fight. Yes, all right, Luke, So it

550
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: looks to be like bigger plans. We think that would

551
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: mean if Shavkatt Rockmanoff defeats Balahmahammad for the welterweight title

552
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 2: in the first quarter or second quarter of this year,

553
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 2: it would mean that. But when you hear him introduce,

554
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about Poeton, that's just Ali

555
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: run in his mouth. But when you hear him introduce, hey,

556
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 2: I'll go to middleweight right now and fight DDP. Do

557
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: we not want the best fighter in the world to

558
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: act exactly like this? Dude? How do we not celebrate

559
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: Islam more? This is insane? Is this realistic? In your eyes?

560
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: What is Islam's fighting future or maybe what should it

561
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: be in the matchmaking offices of Luke Thomas.

562
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Speaker 1: They won't do middleweight because not only could he lose there,

563
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: he could get injured going up against somebody that large,

564
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: both like in terms of like if he gets concussed

565
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: or just you know the nature of having a larger person.

566
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 1: It's just that's where injuries happen a lot.

567
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 2: Danna said Saturday that Jemiah is next after Strickling.

568
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: Forget exactly, it's just it's just them talking. But it

569
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: clearly lets you know that they have interest in changing

570
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: weight classes. It clearly lets you know that that's what

571
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: they've got their sights set on. Just as we've discussed before,

572
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: he's really kind of up against it.

573
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: Now.

574
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is if Shafcott wins, I think

575
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: that that, honestly, they would look the other way and

576
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: still go up against him. It's the Blaw one that's

577
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: a little bit more delicate. But let's just keep our

578
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: eyes open, man. I think if Shafcott wins, I doubt

579
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: the UFC gives ballall like an instant rematch that seems unlikely.

580
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: And and then I've said it is at the perfect

581
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: time to put those two together. No, but again, if

582
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: you're just trying to manage Islam's future, what does it

583
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: look like? He doesn't have much time left, maybe a

584
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: two years or so. You got to you gotta be

585
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: strategic about what fights you giving him. I think you're right, BC.

586
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: I think some kind of either Ilia up or him

587
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: up is very inevitable in twenty twenty five.

588
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at thirty three, at the ability he's at

589
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: right now. Just what you said, you got to maximize that,

590
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: You got to make a swing for history. It doesn't

591
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: seem to be the same thing as Abibe, who made

592
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 2: a promise to his parents and sort of just said, yeah,

593
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm done right now. They got a chance here for

594
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 2: this guy to seriously end up as a as an

595
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: upper room all time. Great, Luke, is there anyone else

596
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: in the lightweight division at the moment save for armand

597
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 2: should Islam hang around that you believe could get a

598
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: shot at Islam that would deserve it. I mean, Max

599
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: Holloway is lingering. You know, Chandler keeps showing up everywhere

600
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: saying he wants to fight, but he's not in that position.

601
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: I'd like BSD to to win some fights, but he's

602
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: coming off a tough stretch for sure. What is the

603
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: future for Islam at lightweight if there is one?

604
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: So let's just run through the best guesses. Arman is

605
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: maybe what two vish maybe maybe one fight away, but

606
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: let's say two. Let's say let's say two. Just this

607
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: just to even you know, think about it. He's in

608
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: your back pocket. I think it's a good way to

609
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: put that. Perhaps then you've got Max. You could go

610
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: Max right away. You could do it. You could do

611
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: it right away. You could say it's for the BMF belt,

612
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: and yeah, I know he lost to forty five, but

613
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: look at his last fifty five fight against Justin Gaigee.

614
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: You just go right away with that. That's an option.

615
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna pull that trigger, but

616
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: that's an option as well. The other one, of course,

617
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: is the winner between Gaichie and Hooker at UFC three thirteen. Now,

618
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: obviously they got the same manager. If it ends up

619
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: being Justin, that could facilitate it. Hooker's not gonna turn

620
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: down an opportunity to get a rematch against Islam. But

621
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: if Hooker wins, do you really have a need to

622
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: see that one again? He got run over by Islam

623
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: the first time they fought, there is there a big

624
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: reason to believe this time would be different. I don't

625
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: think that there is. So maybe they do it with

626
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: the Geyche fight because he's a banger, but like also,

627
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna get overrun on the ground. I think we

628
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: all know that probably too, So to me, Ilia coming

629
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: up is a good option. Max right away is a

630
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: good option Arman, and maybe oneish twish fights away is

631
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: a good option. We're gonna have to see. Well.

632
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: Shout out to Islam though he's doing the work. He's

633
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: one of the best, Luke, one of the best we've

634
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: ever seen, and he's only climbing right now. I mean,

635
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: Usman looked like he was on that same path too,

636
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: and then he hit some defeats and Age caught up.

637
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: Let's see if Islam can continue this.

638
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: Let's just want to say, it's two fights in a row.

639
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: He finished with that short arm Dars. That's two fights.

640
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: And he got this same choke on Poirier a black belt,

641
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: same choke on Moicano black belt. If I think I

642
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: saw a stat he's submitted in his uf secret or

643
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: Charles lavera black belt. He submitted five UFC black belts

644
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: straight up submitted. And again part of that with like

645
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 1: Charles is he got rocked first and then he got hit.

646
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: But this one really wasn't that. This was Moikano scrambling

647
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: to his knees and he hit him with the short arm. Dars, dude,

648
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: Islam is awesome. Islam is awesome. And I know this

649
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: wasn't the mostly electric main event of all time, but

650
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: I really hope you got about a year or two

651
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: left of this guy. You should appreciate it while he's

652
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: here well.

653
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: And in terms of his prime, who knows how long

654
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: he would fight, But these guys probably gonna get out

655
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: earlier than later, you know what I'm saying.

656
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you're gonna see a lot of

657
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: post prime is long. Maybe some, but not a lot.

658
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to topic number two, where it's

659
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: maya culple time for BC and LT because in that

660
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: Cole Maine event, Good Lord, a fantastic five round technical

661
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: thriller in which the champion underdog representing Giorgia Morob devaje

662
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: Vili showed us once again why if you ain't fit

663
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: to handle the heat in his kitchen, you're gonna end

664
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: up losing he takes a five round unanimous decision from

665
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Umar and Normaga medof rallying back to win three straight

666
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: rounds to close out the fight on two of three scorecards. So, Luke,

667
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: in addition to you and I needing to apologize to

668
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: Morob who it didn't even matter if Umar was in

669
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: his head. That was a hell of a performance watching

670
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: him do it as a sizeable underdog, watching him gas

671
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: out in undefeated Nirmaga metoff and rally. Like I mentioned,

672
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: would you say his cardio might literally be the greatest

673
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: singular weapon in UFC title history.

674
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, Francis is punching power is

675
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty significant weapon in UFC history. I'll say this,

676
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: I'll meet you halfway yeah, something like that.

677
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: Well judo, judo, but into the into the yeah you got.

678
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, he has, and I've watched EMMA

679
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: a long time, he has. Let me say it very clearly,

680
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: mirab Dawallash Wheely has the best cardio in mm A history,

681
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: bar none. Barnunn and I know what you might be saying, Well,

682
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: what about some other guys that have great cardio? Let's

683
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: talk about him. Kamar Usman fantastic cardio, but he doesn't

684
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: have the ability to work in the fifth round and

685
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: and and escalating in the same kind of way. With

686
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: the numbers that Morab puts up. There's actually a pretty

687
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: significant distance between them in overall activity, So that's not there.

688
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: Diaz brothers, yes, but they would get overwhelmed in the wrestling,

689
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: and they also would have a decline and output over

690
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: the course of their fights in certain in certain like

691
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: tough batchups. Obviously, the guys I'm talking about, the daz Brothers,

692
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: the Kamars, these guys have phenomenal cardio. We're nitpicking here,

693
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: but we're nitpicking against this single greatest motor I've ever

694
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: seen in the sport. Picked somebody else BC. How about

695
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: you could say Kane Velaski's but he kind of gassed

696
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: at altitude Tony GSP Tony Ferguson. Tony Ferguson went five

697
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: rounds with Hot File dos Angros in Mexico City at

698
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: seventy five hundred feet elevation. No problem, Like, that's incredible cardio.

699
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: And still none of those guys can turn in the

700
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: output that a guy like Morob has. I mean, b see,

701
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I didn't think we were off on

702
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: one central kind of point, which is that skill for skill,

703
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Morob is not as good as Umar striking for striking,

704
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: and I will say that Morob's takedown defence is awesome.

705
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: It's super way better than I realize it's really it's elite.

706
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: His takedown defense is elite. But he's not as skillful

707
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: overall as Umar, but he wasn't too far behind and BC.

708
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: There is no friction between between him saying in his

709
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: mind I want to go for a takedown and then

710
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: going for it and having to pay no cost for

711
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: it in terms of his gas tank. Like a lot

712
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: of guys go for takedowns and then they failed and

713
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: they get tired, and then they ration in their offense.

714
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: He never has to ration offense. He never has to

715
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: worry about recuperating afterwards, even after long pronounced bouts of activity.

716
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: It never, ever, ever seems to slow him down. In BC,

717
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like that. I've never seen a

718
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: fighter who's got a gas tank like that. I've never

719
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: seen a fighter who can call upon his resources at

720
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: a moment's notice for whatever it calls. And then even

721
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: if you can't get the takedown on you. He's not

722
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: even trying to get the takedown to you. I'm just

723
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: going to fucking drown you in the labor. He's so special.

724
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: We were wrong, but I have to say it's only

725
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: because he has one of the most unique special talents

726
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: I've ever seen.

727
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: I mean, it is one thing to do that. Wow wow,

728
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: let that horn slip out there. Yeah, it's one thing

729
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: to do that to be and C level guys. You're

730
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: doing that to a guy I think is AA plus level,

731
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: and that's Umar. We can get to Umar's performance in

732
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: a second, but this was a technical masterpiece at an

733
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: insane pace. This was the two best bandam weights in

734
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 2: the world. I mean, the performance from Umar, even with

735
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: the broken hand that we'll get to, I feel like

736
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: would have beat any other bandam weight in the world

737
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: on this night. Yet Morob has another gear to dig into.

738
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: So Luke, if we called somebody like Kabib one dimensional

739
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: and all you can do is wrestle, you'd be wrong

740
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: because you can do so many other things and his

741
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: intangibles are through the roof. Is there any criticism of

742
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: Morob from the standpoint that, like his game is so

743
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: dependent upon that cardio to beat guys. I mean, I've

744
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 2: seen people try dismissing his skills on Twitter, acting like

745
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: he's you know, Homer Simpson the box or all he

746
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: can do is take damage, and in his case, all

747
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: he can do is keep pushed in the base. But

748
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 2: like an elite, undefeated fighter from the greatest royal family

749
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 2: of late in MMA history, just gave him his best shot,

750
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: looked amazing from two rounds and visibly gassed out down

751
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 2: the stretch, Like does this I guess what I'm trying

752
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: to ask ultimately is does Morob deserve more pound for

753
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: pound acclaim or is it just that he's got this

754
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: one skill that people haven't figured out how to do.

755
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: Like if you don't stop him, he's going to outlast you.

756
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: That's what we're finding out in this experience of Morob

757
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: at the elite level of bantamweight.

758
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to meaningfully hurt him. Actually, you actually

759
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: have to hurt him, otherwise it is difficult to get

760
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: anything really going. I saw people by the way saying

761
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: like Umar didn't look good or Umar got easily beaten,

762
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, what fucking fight are you watching?

763
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: I know one of those route and scores was forty

764
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: nine to forty six. I recognize that some of the

765
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: rounds were close enough where that could go. I still

766
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: think Lumar won two of those rounds. I thought he

767
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: won the first two rounds pretty cleanly, and then he

768
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: kind of really faded in the fourth and the fifth.

769
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: Third round. I was obviously give to Morob as well,

770
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: but it was, you know, relatively close. So I just

771
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 1: I just want to stay for the record. This notion

772
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 1: that like Umar didn't look good is silly. But we're

773
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: asking about like Morob and like, how do we how

774
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: do we is your question? BC? Like how do we

775
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: think of his power?

776
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 2: How do we is he really a pound for pound

777
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: skilled fighter? Or like how much of his success is

778
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: built upon the guest tank In your mind, it's kind

779
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: of idiotic to say, because the guy rustles awesome and

780
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: his striking is good enough, But like, is he one

781
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 2: of in totality one of the most skill fighters in

782
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: this game? In your opinion?

783
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: He is very skillful. He is just narrowly skillful, right, Uh.

784
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: He is very skillful with takedown de fence. He's very

785
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: skillful with takedowns, and there's some striking he's pretty good about.

786
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: And I think he's he's making better reads in the

787
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: striking department, like not running into as much stuff as

788
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: he wants did, and so I think there's been some

789
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: real improvements. But it's narrow, right. He doesn't have a

790
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: phenomenal kicking game. He's got almost no submission game. Even

791
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: the wrestling is much more designed for the takedown than

792
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: the subsequent control that comes after it, although he has

793
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 1: some of that as well. But you get the idea.

794
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: Within a narrow range, he's very skillful, but it is

795
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: obviously impacted. Like, dude, did he beat Umar because he's

796
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: more skillful than Umar?

797
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: Like?

798
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: Answer that question. No, of course he did not. He

799
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: is very skillful, And again I cannot oversae this. I

800
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: thought Morob's takedown defense was outrageously good. But he beat

801
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: him with a very respectable, narrow but respectable range of skills,

802
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: powered by a motor that is second to none, second

803
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: to none in the bansamweight division, second to none in

804
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: the UFC, currently second to none to any motor in

805
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: any weight class that has ever come before him. This

806
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: is the best one. Yeah, dude, you're gonna win fights

807
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: that way. You're asking about pound for pound, Here's what

808
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: he's up against. You look at the names he's beating. Shudos, Yon,

809
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: he got fifty take that attempts almost on Yon, O'Malley, Aldo,

810
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: and now, of course who's this weekend it was umar

811
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: neber goamdo right, So you have all these names. That

812
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: is so real, that is so important. I would say.

813
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: The one knock on him is though that he's a

814
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: decision machine, right, and there's not. It's he's beating like

815
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: insanely tough guys to beat, but he's definitely not beating

816
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: them up, and he's definitely not putting them away. He's

817
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: just he's just winning rounds in a very a pace, not.

818
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: Working on them. I mean, I guess it's the same

819
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: thing as saying, oh, Perera's always got his power, but

820
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 2: he breaks dudes down until they're vulnerable and he gets

821
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: them the frick out of there. Sometimes it happens in

822
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 2: the first round. Morob kind of does the same thing

823
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: in a different way, I mean, but he doesn't get

824
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: him out of there. But still, in the last two years,

825
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: you named it in succession since twenty twenty two, Jose Aldo, Peyota,

826
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: Jan Henry Sajudo, Sean O'Malley and unbeaten Umar and Namaga

827
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: madeoff in which he rallied to win the last three

828
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: rounds in like an instant classic. Right, So, Luke, somebody

829
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: tweeted this at me, and it's it's the right question.

830
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: Is this a legendary run?

831
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 4: Like?

832
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: Is this an all time great run atop of division?

833
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: Right now? These five straight wins over the last two

834
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 2: and a half years. Because we're talking so much about

835
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: what Islam's doing, what this guy's doing, what Tuporia is doing,

836
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: Let's talk about what Morob's doing.

837
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: Dude.

838
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: This is it's inspirational. We doubted the shit out of

839
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: him because he got so caught up in the drama

840
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: outside the cage, but when it was business time, he

841
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: was cool, calm, collect and he delivered.

842
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: There's no question. Uh, there's no question. I didn't. I

843
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: didn't think he had it in him. I really didn't.

844
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: I didn't think he had this kind of performance. And

845
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: again I thought he was down to and I suspect

846
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: he thought he might have lost the first two as well,

847
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: and you had to win the you know, the last three.

848
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: That's a tough, tough, tough thing to do. And he

849
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: did it, and he did it after beating O'Malley, and

850
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: he did after beating you know, gone down the list,

851
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: like dude, it is a historic run. It is a

852
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: historic run. It will be marred to a degree by

853
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: there not being any finishes really really, I mean, I

854
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: know there's Marla maris one, but you know, among like

855
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: the big names, he will be hindered by that to

856
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: a degree. BC, and I think we have to kind

857
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: of acknowledge that. However, when when the question came down,

858
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: did he beat that they were any of those flukes? No, nope,

859
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: the right guy won on Saturday. No quote, there's there.

860
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: You cannot find three rounds for umar, You simply cannot.

861
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: So the right guy won. The right guy won in

862
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: all of them. And the level of difficulty that was

863
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: required to do that, especially with a narrow I mean,

864
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: that's that's the interesting part about this BC. Again, inside

865
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: that narrow skill set, it's very skillful, but it is narrow,

866
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: and he's still beating the Yawns and the O'Malley's and

867
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: the division. It's insane what he's doing, I mean, making

868
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: so much of that skill set.

869
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: And I want to say he did have that cut

870
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: on his leg that nearly pulled them out of it.

871
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 2: He admitted at the post by pressure that he that

872
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: he quote broke his back. It's some kind of back

873
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: ailment that you know slowed him down. Yet he made

874
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: no excuses. Whether you want to call him a company

875
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: man or whether you just want to call him a

876
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: hard worker whose aim is to go out there and deliver.

877
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: He did that. So let's turn the conversation out of

878
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: Umar and Maga met off in his first giant fight

879
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 2: after beating Corey Stanhagan to get in position for this Luke.

880
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: Here's the picture that Ali Abdelaziz put out afterwards of

881
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: the broken left hand of Umar that supposedly happened at

882
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 2: the end.

883
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: Of round one.

884
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: I still thought Umar won round two, as did all

885
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: three judges. Right that one judge who had at forty

886
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: nine forty six gave morob the opening round, which I

887
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 2: don't agree with. But point blank question has to be said,

888
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 2: or has to be asked, how much did that injury

889
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: affect the outcome of this fight.

890
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: I think it played a role, and I also think

891
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: Umar went into that fight with an injury as well,

892
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: like neither guy went in one hundred percent. But this

893
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: is what I mean. It's like, I mean, listen, if

894
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: your hand is that broken where you can't make a

895
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: fist on it or you can't even grab, that is

896
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: a significant impediment. There could simply be no denial. But

897
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: like the reality is, how did he break his hand?

898
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm gonna guess BC it's from

899
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: him throwing these wild shots and then hitting the top

900
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: of the head of Mirob because Morob was ducking down

901
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: a lot like that, And then you know, dude, that's

902
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: It's not it's very easy for me to sit on

903
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: like this chair and say this, but dude, that's that's MMA.

904
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: That's high level mma, Like bad shit happens in the

905
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: middle of a fight. You've It's got super simple for

906
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: me to just say this, But I've watched enough elite

907
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: guys have really serious impediments and or injuries to victory

908
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: and when you think they absolutely could not do it,

909
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: they do it. So I just my response to that

910
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 1: one is it sucks. I do think that down the line.

911
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: I my takeaway from Saturday was, yeah, Umar is gonna

912
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: be champed. Not not right away, but he is gonna

913
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: be champed. He is better than all the rest of

914
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: those guys, no question, can't can't get it against Morob

915
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 1: right now because Morob's special. But I do think he'll

916
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: be that way. But you're just gonna have to wait

917
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: your turn to prove it again when the time comes.

918
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: I yeah, it was humbling. Look, there was a point

919
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: at the end of round two where I thought he

920
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: was gonna knock Morob out. I thought it was coming

921
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: in a round. So if you're gonna if I felt

922
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: that and then I see the effects of the injury,

923
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: I've got to admit the injury played a role. But

924
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: to your point, they both were coming in. Many champions are,

925
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: but certain champions can adjust dig deeper. So I think

926
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: it needs to be asked because I'm not gonna rip Umar.

927
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: I thought he felt very well and like I said,

928
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: would have beaten almost probably an every other VANDAM weight

929
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: on this night. But there was real disappointment in Coachabib's face,

930
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: his older cousin, and I have to admit, even though

931
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 2: Morab is a superhuman freak and this is what he

932
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: does to people, I was shocked that Umar visibly was

933
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: gassing out in round four visibly. So Luke, when you

934
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: look back, I want you know I don't want to

935
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: be like, is this more about Morob doing great or

936
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: Umar not doing what we expected of him? There were factors,

937
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: but the odds makers had it a certain way. We

938
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: were over that it was gonna be Umar, and it

939
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: seemed like I'm not gonna say he fell apart or

940
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: but like there was some element of not raising himself

941
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 2: to another level where we thought he could. Now I'm

942
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: not gonna look over the fact that with with one

943
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: minute to go in round five, I had Umar winning

944
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: that last round and on his way to win. So

945
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: I really took that right hand from Morob and then

946
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: the takedown which broke GSP's UFC record, which is just

947
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: insane right that he came in here needing six takedowns

948
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: to do it against Umar, who showed insane takedown defense

949
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: in the first two rounds, and he did it, and

950
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: the record breaking one ultimately clinched the fight. Here's a pick,

951
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 2: by the way, after that right hand landed where Morob

952
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: just pointed at Umar and laughed at him. What an

953
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: insane picture right there. It was closer than maybe Morob

954
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: was acting, but still, Luke, did you feel like Umar

955
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: could have done more? And Habib was trying to will

956
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: him into it.

957
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: A little little. Again, it's hard to know how affected

958
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: he was with the injury, and it obviously looks bad.

959
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: But whether you're adrenaline going, you know, some of that

960
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: is you're able to overcome it. So that part's a

961
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: little hard to say, but I do. I did get

962
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: the sense BC that he came out in the fifth

963
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: round with a renewed purpose and still got overwhelmed a

964
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: little bit in the end. Part of that is luck.

965
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: Part of that is, you know, the way they cookie

966
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: crumbles sometimes, But there was a sense that, like, dude,

967
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: I mean, just just understand something. He'd been in five

968
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: round fights. But if in your first real five round

969
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: title fight, you show cardio problems in the fourth and

970
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: the fifth, Now understand when I say cardio problems, I'm

971
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: talking about the you know, relative to the guy he's facing,

972
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: not not like he's got bad cardio, but you're starting

973
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: to get a pace put on you and you're visibly

974
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: huffing and puffing in the fourth and fifth rounds. I mean,

975
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: it's again, it's an unforgiving standard. B. See, it's very

976
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: easy for dorks like us to say this, but like

977
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: this is the standard this is what they signed up for.

978
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: This is the battle in front of you. If you're

979
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: fading in the fourth and the fifth and you're basically

980
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: your use your first UFC title fight, even under arrest

981
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: that he was put under, that's a U issue, man,

982
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: like that's a U issue. That's that is that is

983
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: your fault. And so this is why I think just

984
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: twenty nine he's gonna get better from this too. And

985
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna come back and really get that

986
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: extra bump because you can see BC he's not that

987
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: far from it. But there are some things about preparation, health, mindset,

988
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: closing the gap on some of these smaller technical details,

989
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna put him over the hump.

990
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: But to me, he showed himself not green. I would

991
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: not say he's green, but he looked somewhat unprepared for

992
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 1: the championship moment.

993
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: Physically, he was in he's one of the best most

994
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: fit fighters who are in the game. You could watch

995
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: in his body, but he didn't have it in the

996
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: big moment there. And by the way that picture when

997
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: he pointed, I believe that was actually when he kind

998
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: of pushed him down into like a push takedown and

999
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: he clowned him. And Marob was talking to the announcers

1000
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: last night, you know, the whole fight, it looked like

1001
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: he was like close to losing it, Luke, but he

1002
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: put it together, He got it down the stretch when

1003
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: the moment mattered. We often joke and say, you know,

1004
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 2: how does Kevin Lee fit into this situation? Luke? How

1005
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: does Ilia Tarporia fit? And all I know they're both Georgian.

1006
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: Let's see a tweet from your boy who says, Morob,

1007
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: my brother, what a fighter you are. You make us

1008
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: feel so proud. This is what happens when Dagistani wrestling

1009
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: meets Georgian wrestling. So Luke. Later this week of course,

1010
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: this weekend in Dubai, PFL is gonna have the usman

1011
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 2: De Maga met off against Paul Hughes fight. And there's

1012
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: been a big narrative with Kabib involved of Irish MMMA

1013
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: versus Daugustan MMA, but people don't really think that's a

1014
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 2: big debate right now, did Ilia just start a Daugistan

1015
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 2: versus Georgia MMA debate? And are you are you picking

1016
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: sides or or in this?

1017
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 6: Uh?

1018
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: I know that they are big rivals in judo. I

1019
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: don't know if they're big rivals in wrestling. I mean,

1020
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: either there are they are. The Georgians are good wrestlers,

1021
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: and of course there's obviously a former Soviet relationship, but

1022
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: I didn't know that there was a big Georgian Again,

1023
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm not a Georgia and Russian wrestling expert, but I

1024
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: all I can say is, I know that they're reasonably competitive,

1025
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: but the Russians are certainly a better overall team. But

1026
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: I know in judo it's much much closer. I know

1027
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: that the Georgians are a powerhouse there.

1028
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: Well, it's a big win for Georgia. Just the same

1029
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: I was talking over DMS Luke, you know duty from

1030
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: She Loves the Gloves Christina.

1031
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know her real name, but yeah, she.

1032
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 2: Was explained to me that there were, you know, fifty

1033
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 2: days of protests in Georgia against Russian back government. The

1034
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: situations and obviously I'm not up on international politics, you

1035
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 2: know that side of me.

1036
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: But you're not even up on domestic politics.

1037
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 2: I M up really on local politics for those parts. Look, okay,

1038
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: but I'll tell you this Morob deserves all of our flowers.

1039
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 2: He delivered a big moment for his country, a big

1040
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: moment in a fight when we counted them out. It

1041
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: seems crazy now in hindsight that he was that much

1042
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: of an underdog, but we fell for it and he

1043
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: broke through. But Luke, there was one guy all along,

1044
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: literally from the beginning, who told us we're crazy, and

1045
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: that's Bong Island. Luke no cida. I thought you were

1046
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: just doing this out of love for your island. But

1047
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: like you are justified and vindicated here as many others

1048
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 2: who took plus money on Morob. Why did you know?

1049
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: How did you know that this was gonna happen?

1050
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: I just feel like you couldn't bet against him.

1051
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 5: I know Umar was a good challenger, but like from

1052
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 5: what we've seen with Morob, no one can hang with him.

1053
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: His cardio is just the biggest weapon. Luke just said

1054
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: it right there, like I don't know.

1055
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 5: I really it was a bias pick, if I'm being honest,

1056
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 5: I just wanted to wrap Long Island. I love Morob,

1057
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 5: he cast as a dog last time, had to take

1058
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 5: him again, but he totally exceeded my expectations.

1059
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: Hey, way to go Long is Look, I hope your

1060
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: people made money on the main card. Minute final bit

1061
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 2: on Morob, Luke, here's a video that Oscar Willis took

1062
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 2: cage side Morob got pulled off the cage while trying

1063
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: to celebrate. What do you think about this? I know

1064
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: the Commission hates this, but like, it's their moment.

1065
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: Let them, let them cook, right, No, you gotta get

1066
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: them off. These guys are danger to themselves when they

1067
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Speaker 1: do shit like this. And then I think the Commission

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1070
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Speaker 4: I like.

1071
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Speaker 1: I like how you're like, oh, it's a cage. Oh,

1072
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Speaker 1: I guess the law doesn't apply then, all right, law.

1073
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Speaker 2: It's not like he's trying to do an own hard thing, Luke,

1074
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Speaker 2: He's just climbing a cage to celebrate a big moment

1075
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Speaker 1: Again, dude, I know, listen, there's plenty of criticisms to

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Speaker 2: All right, Luca, you always have to be the dad

1080
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Speaker 2: in these moments. You know, what are you gonna give

1081
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Speaker 1: I just feel like protest the ship where you can get,

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1085
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1094
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Speaker 2: But you know it was a food group in my house.

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Speaker 2: loves it. There we go it.

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Speaker 1: We do it for two.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's keep it going on topic number three. It's

1154
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: UFC three eleven. Of course, we're gonna get to the

1155
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: undercart and what was what it was? It was eerie

1156
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: Prohatsko of course, and a light heavyweight duel of former

1157
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: two five champions taking on Jamal Hill and Luke Thomas.

1158
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 2: You said a lot of negative things about old.

1159
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: Years coming in, ye stand by every single one of them.

1160
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: Well we'll get to that. But he did, as he

1161
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 2: said in the postfight interview, attempt to make a lot

1162
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: of changes. So by improving to five and zher with

1163
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: this third round stoppage in the UFC, with five finishes

1164
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: against every opponent non named Alex Pereira, would you say

1165
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: it's fair to call Prohtska the second best light heavyweight

1166
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: in the world. And could this strategy idealism change? Meaning

1167
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: you didn't see a lot of high guard, but you

1168
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: did see a commitment to head, movement to looking to

1169
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: set up encounter Hill. Well, this newfound commitment lead to

1170
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: a maybe a new development. Should he get what he

1171
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 2: called for a possible trilogy against Poeton?

1172
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Speaker 1: I think it could. I mean, here's what I'm gonna say.

1173
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: Jed Mishu after he won was tweeting me like I

1174
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: told you, and I'm like, no, no, no, no. I

1175
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: told you. The issue with him was not that he

1176
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: needed to go to one eighty five. What a complete

1177
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: waste of time in abusing your body. That's not your problem.

1178
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: Your problem is not that you don't have adequate size

1179
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: for two of five Jesus Christ, dude, First of all,

1180
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: did you not notice not just I mean they were

1181
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 1: roughly the same size, but a Prahachka much more muscular BC.

1182
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: How about the speed difference? It looked to me like

1183
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill was moving in slow motion out there, compared

1184
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: like this notion he had to go to one andy

1185
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: five absurd, totally absurd.

1186
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's move past that because he's not going Luke.

1187
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: But let's let's inventory what people said. Because he was like, oh,

1188
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: you're going because Jed's accusation was I was like, my

1189
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: prescription was gonna make him worse. All it did was

1190
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: actually make him better. Him talking about like, oh, the

1191
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: guy is casting spells and have to sit in these

1192
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: dark rooms. No, what you need to do is work

1193
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: on your game. Because he's obviously very athletic, he's very explosive, strong,

1194
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: good mind, durable, and he does have some skills, but

1195
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't necessarily putting them together in all the right ways. Well,

1196
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: this one, to me was not that. First of all,

1197
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: you said he didn't have high hands. He did to

1198
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: bait Jamal Hill, and it worked every single time he did.

1199
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Speaker 1: But that's not the big insight. The big insight was

1200
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: he would go first, pull, and then go third, so

1201
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: he was hitting first and third. He was setting up

1202
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: angles to let Hill go past him and then counter him.

1203
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: He was using head movement and then rolling underneath to

1204
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: escape at certain angles. He was fainting and then throwing offense.

1205
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: He was turning defense into offense. He was doing all

1206
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: the things that somebody who takes offense seriously and takes

1207
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: defense seriously would do. That made a huge difference in

1208
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: what you saw. And again I'll give Hill some credit.

1209
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: I thought Hill going to the body midway through that

1210
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: fight made a difference for him and him grabbing the

1211
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: head of Brachko, which obviously makes sense because he's doing

1212
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: all of this right, you're grabbing the head and then

1213
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: going to the body. I thought Hill did a pretty

1214
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: good job with that. I'll give Hill some credit, But

1215
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: in the end, dude, they had a phenomenal game plan

1216
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: which was executed with thoughtful offense, athletic defense, and then

1217
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: the marriage of the two. That's not what he was

1218
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: doing before. I will say there is one thing that

1219
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: stood out to me about this fight which I didn't

1220
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: appreciate in real time, and then I saw afterwards. I

1221
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: was saying to myself, Okay, how different did he look

1222
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: in this fight? So I went back and I watched

1223
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: the Poeton both Poton fights. I went back and I

1224
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: watched then Unclia fight, which was obviously from UFC. Three

1225
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: hundred and April, and I'll say this be See those

1226
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: guys went right after Prohochka's legs over and over and

1227
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: over again, and he'll never did so. Like, don't get

1228
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: me wrong, please don't misunderstand me. The real takeaway are

1229
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: the improvements of what Prohachka did. But what I want

1230
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: to add on top of that is he'll never harassed

1231
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: his legs, never hurt his balance, never you know, never

1232
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: attacked in that way, which if you watch those other

1233
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: fights where they did it ended up kind of hurrying

1234
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: up pro Hochka's offense. Well, because he could slow down

1235
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: this time BC, he could make better decisions. Look at

1236
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: the results, Yeah, look at the results. That is not

1237
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: his most like amazing win in terms of like you know,

1238
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: acrobatic work or whatever. But that's to me my favorite

1239
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: win he's got because he thought through it, used his athleticism.

1240
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: Look at the results.

1241
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 2: And obviously what he did to that cancer pation in

1242
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: terms of bringing her to the fight, donating to her,

1243
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: allowing her to get shine was certainly you know, good

1244
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: stuff there. But in terms of the fight, as you mentioned,

1245
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: he balanced being smarter without sacrificing the endearing absurd, ridiculous,

1246
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: reckless danger that he brings to the cage. So I

1247
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: think Jed was actually right, Luke and calling you out

1248
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: on the idea of let this guy be weird, let

1249
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: him roll out and do what he does. But when

1250
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: he's acting in this way, I wonder if he could

1251
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: get a trilogy fight.

1252
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 6: Now.

1253
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: Obviously it depends on how long Poeton is going to

1254
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 2: stay in this division. He's got that fight against Ankle

1255
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 2: Ivan March. We'll get to that in a second. We

1256
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: know he wants to become a three division champion and

1257
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: eventually go to heavyweight. I wonder if Yeeri might maybe

1258
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: he needs another win here, Luke, But he's showing that

1259
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: he is the second best light heavyweight. I mean, you

1260
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: can argue that on skill that a tank alive, but

1261
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: on success it has been Prohtska saved for those two

1262
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 2: knockout losses. So that was nice to hear. They did

1263
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: ie poke each other, and here is Prohatska after the

1264
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: fight talking about the eye poke and basically saying it

1265
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: didn't matter.

1266
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 3: I just want to ask you about your eye and

1267
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: the eye poke.

1268
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 2: How bad was that and were you concerned at all

1269
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: when the doctor was talking to you that he was

1270
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 2: thinking of stopping it.

1271
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,920
Speaker 1: I still feel that right now.

1272
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 6: So no, there's no way to stub the fight because

1273
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 6: ie poke, I've got.

1274
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 1: One more eyes.

1275
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 2: So no, I mean he's got that barbaric way of thinking,

1276
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: I've got another eye. Who cares? I mean it worked

1277
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: for viz ping Luke, and on the flip side with Hill,

1278
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 2: I want to give him respect. I saw him break

1279
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: down and cry afterwards walking out of the tunnel, and

1280
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: it shows you how much he put into this fight.

1281
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 2: I saw him, you know, embrace YEARI afterwards. You don't

1282
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: see him making all these excuses like he did after

1283
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 2: the Poeton fight. I saw him meet that YEARI lookalike

1284
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: fan outside and have a funny moment. I loved that

1285
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: these two guys who we thought were gonna come in

1286
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: and fight extremely reckless, fought a tense, exciting action fight

1287
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: at close range that was a duel. There was some

1288
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: level of savvy and adjustments, and Hill, as always Luke,

1289
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 2: even though he came up empty in this in this fight,

1290
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: brought it to the highest level, brought his balls with him,

1291
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: fights it big in the moment, knocked Eerie down, like

1292
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sorry he got knocked down but landed

1293
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: some big shots won that second round. But Luke, if

1294
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: I do have one criticism, and I didn't say this

1295
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 2: when he rushed back from injury at three hundred and

1296
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: fought Poeton, but I will say it now. Is he

1297
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: just not fully committed. You know, he's got a little

1298
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: bit of a dad bod to the cardio. Like I

1299
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: feel like if he got himself at his age right

1300
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 2: now into world class shape, there could be another run

1301
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 2: potentially at the top for him. I nitpicking too much

1302
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: because I just feel like he brings so much to

1303
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: the table that I like quick hands and understanding of

1304
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: how to box. He goes forward in the moment, he's

1305
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: not afraid to take big shots and fight through. But

1306
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: I feel like I see him when he takes the

1307
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 2: shirt off, and I'm like, I don't know, man, you.

1308
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: Know, I don't know. I don't know how I feel

1309
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: about that. I mean, did you long Island, Luke, did

1310
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 1: you detect a cardio issue? And again, even when guys

1311
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: are slinging the dogs and hitting each other, you know

1312
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna breathe hard, obviously, did you detect

1313
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: a cardio issue with Jamal Hill because I didn't, but

1314
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 1: maybe you did. No, it was a speed issue, like

1315
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: you said, he looks slow. To me, dude, that's it. Yeah,

1316
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: here he was such a better athlete. I was blown

1317
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: away by the.

1318
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: Different But I feel like if he improves his shape,

1319
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 2: he'll be quicker and he'll be he'll have more activity.

1320
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: Can I say though, Can I say though that, Like, again,

1321
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Jamal Hill had to leg kick Pearl Hotchka.

1322
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: That's not my point. But it is weird to me that,

1323
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: like we have this conversation about like what Hill's good at,

1324
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: and Hill is good at his core skill sets, and

1325
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: then what I would say is the things he doesn't

1326
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: like doing, like jiu jitsu. He's good defensively. He doesn't

1327
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: like to wrestle, but he's good defensively, right, but he

1328
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: doesn't really use it. And to me it was like,

1329
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: there's a conversation about Hill. You're like, well, maybe he

1330
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: needs to lose a little bit of weight. I'm not

1331
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: saying that's wrong. I don't. I don't know. I think

1332
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: it's an interesting thing to wonder about and maybe we'll see.

1333
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: I also think his skill development needs a little work.

1334
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: If I can be honest with you. I think his

1335
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: footwork sometimes is a little all over the place. And

1336
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: here was a case where you know, again you want

1337
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: to stick to your core strengths. And I will say

1338
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: him going to the body and then grabbing the head

1339
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: in particular to control him. And then he was you know,

1340
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: he was doing good dirty boxing. He lands some uppercuts

1341
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: in there like that was great. Like he made some

1342
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: adjustments on the fly, there were slick. I liked him,

1343
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: but there's not enough.

1344
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 2: Like there was gotta be a thread of a takedown.

1345
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: It's gotta be something in there.

1346
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: Something, Yeah, something gets right, just one more little piece

1347
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: of seasoning on top and there's a little something extra.

1348
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: But to me, it made it a little bit too

1349
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: not easy offense. But if the range of things you

1350
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: have to worry about is basically boxing, there's a lot

1351
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: a guy, a creative guy like Prahatchka can do with that.

1352
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: I just didn't think he did enough with the well roundedness.

1353
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: Quickly on Perhatsko Long Island lod Can you show the

1354
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: video of him backstage staring down Poloton during the post

1355
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 2: fight interview and look this moved me.

1356
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on this, you know what

1357
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a little bit more on the Yeerie train. Now.

1358
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: I always thought he was a good guy who had

1359
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: great some great ability, but was just gonna be an

1360
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: underperformer because he was not gonna take defense seriously. But

1361
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: if he's gonna take defense seriously and he can actually

1362
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: continue to get better, then yeah, he's got to earn it. Okay,

1363
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: wet'll see what happens between Anclive and then whatever. But

1364
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: like before, the notion of him fighting Poeton, to me

1365
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: seemed like forget about it. And I still don't think

1366
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: it's like has to be done. But if he's gonna

1367
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: change the way he fights like a Gaechee Wood where

1368
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: you're still a madman, but you're a controlled and technical madman.

1369
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: Look how much further he went. It's the only thing

1370
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: I want for Urich. Just do that.

1371
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: If this interview is any indication with Megan, o'levy afterwards

1372
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: had a lot of fun or planned on it after

1373
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: the victory, Luke, have you seen this shit has come early?

1374
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: Let's hear about Yuri's post fight plans. O heay, before

1375
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: I let you go, I gotta know, how do you

1376
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: celebrate a win?

1377
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: What does having fun look like for you? You know,

1378
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: I took a two.

1379
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 6: Crazy guy from my village to here to see these

1380
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 6: these events, and yeah, I hear it.

1381
01:05:55,720 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: And today I will bring them to my hotel well and.

1382
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 3: They will see something.

1383
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: Well, listen, let's.

1384
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: Leave it at that. Luke, I don't know. I don't

1385
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: know if he served in the Marines in the Czech Republic,

1386
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 2: but uh, they're about to run a train in that hotel.

1387
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, buddy, they're about to have some. They're about to

1388
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: have U. You better get the condoms in the mayonnaise.

1389
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: It's about to be ugly in there.

1390
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, endear him more to you after being really his

1391
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 2: biggest hater for months.

1392
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: Not his biggest hater, hater of the fans who just

1393
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: want him to be an underachiever. The fans who want

1394
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: him to be an under achiever should be embarrassed of

1395
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: themselves that they would sell him short this way. No

1396
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: chance he gets back to a title fight in the

1397
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: fuck assway he was before. But if he wants to

1398
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 1: fight like a real guy like he did this time,

1399
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: well then that's a different conversation. But yeah, dude, I

1400
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: think listen, he seems like a I mean who knows,

1401
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: but he seems like a really nice guy. He's got

1402
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: real gifts. If you've got real gifts, let's see them maximized.

1403
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 1: I felt this was a step in the right direction,

1404
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: and I honestly hope he does get to maximize his

1405
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: potential whatever that ends to.

1406
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: Clear you're one hundred percent believing he's talking about buying

1407
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 2: a bunch of horse for his two village friends right

1408
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: just to be here.

1409
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, there's no question

1410
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: in my mind he was gonna get he was gonna

1411
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: pay for some tang. There was just that that was

1412
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: what was gonna happen, all right, Like I said, Like

1413
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: I said, I never knew how many people had dudes

1414
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: paid for sex until I was in my twenties in

1415
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps. And then I realized when I got

1416
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: out of the Marine Corps it wasn't just them either.

1417
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 1: It some of you guys watching are truly the most

1418
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 1: despicable people on Earth. God bless you.

1419
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: Luke Benway Prospect Peton Talbot came in with a lot

1420
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 2: of hype at age twenty six and a lot of

1421
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: love of going to abandon factory sites and hanging out.

1422
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 2: I didn't understand all that, but Chuckman Andhall had a

1423
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 2: nice story about it. And then he got humbled by

1424
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: huge underdog Brazilian veteran Hyoni Barcellos, a minus twelve hundred favorite,

1425
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 2: and it goes down as the fourth biggest upset in

1426
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: UFC history odds wise, as Barcelos, who said before the

1427
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: fight he was off, came down and took Talbot down

1428
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 2: at will, was willing to go strike for strike with

1429
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: him on the feet, got the better of every scenario.

1430
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: He also got two thirty twenty sevens and one thirty

1431
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: twenty six Luke Talbot did not get knocked out. He

1432
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,839
Speaker 2: did not guess out, but he got handled with relative

1433
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 2: ease against somebody who's tough. But we got to call

1434
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 2: him what he is, a journeyman. How devastating is this

1435
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: for the bright prospect.

1436
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: It was a bad loss, but I don't think it's

1437
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world. I mean, there's no

1438
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: question he was technically overwhelmed. He was not physically overwhelmed.

1439
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,799
Speaker 1: He was he met a guy better at this sport

1440
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: and the ways in which he applied it than him,

1441
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: like just much better. The guy was much better. That

1442
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 1: is surprising. To a degree, but not anymore. Now you've

1443
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: seen it, and now you realize, Wow, he's got a

1444
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: lot of work to do. But he's twenty six years old.

1445
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: I did not necessarily see anything there that told me

1446
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: it was fatal for him becoming something. But it does

1447
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: tell me they need to dial back the hype big time.

1448
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: You can see, Man, here's the reality if you're a prospect.

1449
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: And sometimes these guys bring it upon themselves. You know,

1450
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: they ask for more of it, and sometimes they don't.

1451
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: And I don't think you should hold it against them

1452
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: when they do, because these guys are typically really young

1453
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 1: and they don't know shit about the world yet. But

1454
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,959
Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure to anoint the next prospect

1455
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: to something. There's a lot of pressure, and they're almost

1456
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: never ready. We push, push, push, push, push these guys

1457
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: to be something. Oh my god, look at Rol Russell

1458
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 1: Junior coming out of high school. Look he's gonna be

1459
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: champion in three years. Dude, he's not even close. And

1460
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever gonna be champion. But you know,

1461
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,640
Speaker 1: like it's any I go. I know he invited it,

1462
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: but there's also just pressure around him. Talbot, you know,

1463
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: the just pressure around him. You can pick so many

1464
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 1: guys that are coming through where we just ask them

1465
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 1: to be ready already, because wouldn't that be an amazing,

1466
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: marvelous story. But it's not his story. His story is

1467
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a little bit more time to get

1468
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: wherever he's going to to go. So it was bad.

1469
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: It was, to your point, thorough, very thorough, comprehensively controlled,

1470
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,600
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But he's got a lot of

1471
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: time to get better. See if he does.

1472
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were just waiting for him the whole fight

1473
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 2: to figure it out, find an answer. I thought in

1474
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 2: the third round when they were trading huge bombs that

1475
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 2: he might, you know, he might have lured Hyone into

1476
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 2: a brawl that he didn't need to be in. And

1477
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 2: then it was Barcelos getting the better of it. So

1478
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: shout out to the thirty seven year old. That's a

1479
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 2: big win. That's actually two in a row for Barcelos,

1480
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 2: who had who had lost like four or five during

1481
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 2: his stretch, including fights against Umar and other top names

1482
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: right there, so that's a big development. But Luke so

1483
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,879
Speaker 2: was right near de Ritter, the Dutch Knight on Saturday,

1484
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: telling me before the fight on my channel that he

1485
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: was going to go in there, not show any respect

1486
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 2: like he had shown Meershart in his UFC debut two

1487
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 2: months ago, and attack and go for the finish. He

1488
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: did just that with a first round submission, doing it

1489
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 2: with ease against Kevin Holland. So, Luke, you know as

1490
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 2: well as I do, that this man is not perfect,

1491
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 2: especially in the striking. But he looked awesome on Saturday.

1492
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 2: Is he starting to become one of those dark horse

1493
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: but legitimate threats to the UFC title despite being a

1494
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 2: little up there in age, but you know he's battle testers,

1495
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: you know, he's got experience. He looked great on Saturday.

1496
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 1: De Ritter. Yeah, I didn't think de Ritter looked bad.

1497
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: I thought Kevin Holland looked bad. All right, break it

1498
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: down for me, hold on Long Island, Luke, how did

1499
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: you feel about that? Who what was the big takeaway

1500
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: that Dearrittor looked awesome or that Holland looked bad? I

1501
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: think it was a little bit of both.

1502
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 5: I don't think de Ritter's like a title contender or anything,

1503
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 5: but like they're putting him against guy Kevin Holland's not

1504
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 5: even ranked, you know, like they got to put him

1505
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 5: in top fifteen matchups.

1506
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: Let's see how he does well. They gave Gerald miershard

1507
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: and that was tooth and nail.

1508
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 5: For a little while, right, And he looked like shit

1509
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 5: in that fight in mid And I thought Kevin Holland

1510
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 5: was actually a live dog in this fight.

1511
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: I did bet on him. Yeah, let me just say this.

1512
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: I think Kevin Holland had we said this before the fight.

1513
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: I thought Kevin Holland had more skills. Now de Rittor

1514
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 1: being bigger, like he was a lot bigger like. I

1515
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: was like, wow, this actually made a big difference. So

1516
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: in the end, Derittor being skilled and bigger is gonna

1517
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: make it a tough fight for Holland. But dude, I

1518
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: did not like this from Kevin Holland at all. I

1519
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: think Kevin Holland actually has a great degree of skill.

1520
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: I think he does have good jiu jitsu. I know

1521
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: he can crack. I know he's got good stand up.

1522
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: And if this is what he wants for his life,

1523
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, to just take fights whenever he win some,

1524
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: you lose some, maybe you lose more than you win,

1525
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: But who cares at this point because that's just what

1526
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna do then, you know, listen, I can't talk

1527
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: him out of it. I can't, but it's very, very

1528
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 1: hard for me to look at how good he is

1529
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 1: when he really is applying himself, and then look at

1530
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: this and think A. There's not a difference, and then

1531
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 1: B that like this is how it has to be.

1532
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: I don't think this is how it has to be.

1533
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: Number One, I think he should go to one seventy.

1534
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't I get again, if he doesn't want to

1535
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: live in a way where he can keep his weight down,

1536
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: that's up to him. But this is just my opinion.

1537
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: He should go to one seventy, and secondly, he should try.

1538
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: It looked to me like he was barely even trying

1539
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: underneath the ritter. I think he got a sense pretty

1540
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: quickly the rider was bigger and technical, and I don't

1541
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: know that he put up much of a fight. I'm

1542
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 1: not saying it through it, but I'm just saying I

1543
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: don't know that he like he wasn't like he just

1544
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: didn't seem to be having a lot of urgency in

1545
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: ways that I thought he might. And I don't know, man,

1546
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: this was a really uninspiring performance. You win some you

1547
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: lose some Dorritor's good. To your point, the last thing

1548
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: on is Deriddor's good. BC. I'm not denying he's not good.

1549
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: He was double champed like he's good. He's good, and

1550
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: I think he's a fun addition to the division. I

1551
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: just didn't learn anything about where he's going to go

1552
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: from this fight personally.

1553
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: See, I thought he corrected what was wrong in that

1554
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 2: first fight where he said he came out was too

1555
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: caught up and making the UFC debut, wanted to put

1556
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 2: on a show. He was focused too much on Meershark's

1557
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 2: ground game and he ended up getting lit up on

1558
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: the feet. He said, It's not gonna happen this time

1559
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 2: because I'm going to attack. And while all those criticisms

1560
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: of Holland are true for him at age thirty two,

1561
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 2: and let's not forget Hollind's now lost two in or

1562
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 2: row by stoppage four of his last five and six

1563
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: of his last nine while bouncing around between two divisions.

1564
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: So all that is right, but Holland can bang. If

1565
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 2: der Rittter was going to show those same holes that

1566
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: he showed against GM three, I think he would have

1567
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 2: got exposed instead. He came in there and handled his

1568
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: business and handled it easy. So, Luke, when I say

1569
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 2: he's not perfect, it's basically saying that if you can

1570
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 2: stuff his takedowns at will, you can beat him up

1571
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: on the feet if you're a better striker, And a

1572
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 2: lot of fighters in this division are better strikers than him.

1573
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 2: But that jiu jitsu is so good that I do

1574
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: get the feeling that he is one of those wild

1575
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: card fighters that on any given night he could be

1576
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 2: a problem. How far does that equation go? In your eyes?

1577
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: Can he beat top fifteen and top ten guys with

1578
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 2: the jiu jitsu? But is he gonna hit the wall

1579
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 2: at at what? Top five? Where does he sort of

1580
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 2: top out in his client because he wants to be active,

1581
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: he wants to fight often, and he wants to start

1582
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: collecting some necks out there?

1583
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, does he beat a guy like Anthony Hernandez.

1584
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 2: Might be a nice way to find out, Luke, I don't.

1585
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 1: Think he does. I think Hernandez smokes him, and I

1586
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: think that's probably about where he tops out. Anywhere Hernandez is,

1587
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: he's behind.

1588
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: Him, so top, I think you'd be surprised.

1589
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 5: All right, he already has a win over Fluffy if

1590
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 5: you remember back, but how long ago, twenty twenty.

1591
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: Fluffy's definitely I think Fluffy's better now. Yeah, I think

1592
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: Fluffy's better now. But to your point, we could, Okay,

1593
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: fair enough, you could. You could. You could see where

1594
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 1: they're at and then go from there. I think Fluffy's

1595
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: better now. Yeah, I'll stick to that.

1596
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: All right, quick question here, Luke, she would be excited

1597
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 2: about what Johnson all Meeta did getting a first round

1598
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 2: TK over Sergei Spevak, or is the reality that the

1599
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 2: heavyweight division sucks the horn below that top elite circle

1600
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: and this.

1601
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: Just was what it was? Yeah, a little bit. I

1602
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: think it's more the latter. The only thing I'll say

1603
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 1: that I thought was interesting was Spivak was doing really well.

1604
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: So I told you just Bivac could wrestle a little bit.

1605
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 1: It wasn't like you couldn't wrestle. It was actually pretty good.

1606
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: But they end up, you know, there ends up being

1607
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 1: a reversal and then he gets on top or sorry,

1608
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: there was a reversal. Then they stand up, and then

1609
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: when they stand up, you know, I'll maina hit him

1610
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: with the one hit or quitter. I thought that was

1611
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 1: actually pretty impressive. He drilled them with a nice punch.

1612
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: I didn't even know al Mada had that in him,

1613
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 1: So to me, it was, you know, heavyweights, heavyweight, but

1614
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: it was. It's a pretty nice win in the end,

1615
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: all things kind of being what they works if they're

1616
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: some of the early trouble.

1617
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 2: I know why the UFC broadcast does what they do.

1618
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 2: In general, they play down losses. They won't talk about

1619
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 2: a guy's losing streak, right, but dude, they they sometimes

1620
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 2: glaze so aggressively in the minutes leading up to a fight.

1621
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: They had you believing that Sergey Spivak was on the

1622
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 2: verge of like knocking out and Gan. You know what

1623
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, I don't like when they do that.

1624
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: You can be a little more realistic.

1625
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think that's fair. But at the same time,

1626
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 1: you know, talking about heavyweight in twenty twenty five, you're

1627
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: gonna have to grade on a curve, you know what

1628
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1629
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: All right, Well, speaking of curves, well it's a bad transition.

1630
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: And speaking of twerks, hey, Luke, say what you will

1631
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 2: about Fiona Aileen Perez. She's a wild card, but she's

1632
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: got five consecutive wins granted in a bad division at

1633
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 2: bantamweight and went out there against Carol Hosa and didn't

1634
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 2: look spectacular but looked decent, handled their business, got the win,

1635
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 2: gave us a little bit of a twerk. So Luke asked,

1636
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: ridiculousness in terms of her behavior or not? Do you

1637
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: believe that Fiona is charismatic enough in a dead division

1638
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: that she's actually a legitimate title contender right now and

1639
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 2: might be at two point zero at one thirty?

1640
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, is she bet two point zero?

1641
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 2: I mean she's look like I know that when I

1642
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: talk about everyone's gonna laugh and we're talking about the

1643
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: ridiculousness and OBC, you're gross and you're that. She's fun

1644
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 2: to watch. She's a wild card. She talks big game.

1645
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 2: In fact, let's hear her drop bombs on people in

1646
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 2: her division. Then I want to see you react. Here's

1647
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 2: Eileen Perez.

1648
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:37,759
Speaker 1: So now I want to fight for the title.

1649
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 7: I said this again, just put me in for interim

1650
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 7: title the current title holder. I means she is shitting

1651
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 7: her pants. She does not want to take on Kayler Harrison.

1652
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: So let me take that.

1653
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 7: Listen, I'm coming off of five straight wins. All of

1654
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 7: them dominant wins. Uh Gary finish in Paris, three dominant

1655
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 7: wins before. There's no reason why they wouldn't give me

1656
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 7: a chance and actually put me on a fight against

1657
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 7: the internet interim.

1658
01:17:58,800 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: I got.

1659
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 8: Jesus, what the hell do I know?

1660
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm a fan like anybody else. I know what the

1661
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 1: fans know. The fans know stuff.

1662
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 7: I'm a regular girl that just like checks out stuff,

1663
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 7: what's going on.

1664
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen. What happens is.

1665
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 7: I am ready to fight, regardless what it is. I

1666
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 7: will fight in this uh, in this organization, whoever Dana

1667
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 7: wants me to fight. If Dana wants me to fight

1668
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 7: Kayla Harrison, I'll fight Kayla Harrison if he wants It's

1669
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 7: is Juliana did Norma.

1670
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.

1671
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 7: What I know is one thing the actions speak for

1672
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 7: themselves is not what they're saying, is what they're doing

1673
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 7: or not doing.

1674
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: I can tell one thing.

1675
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 7: I will fight anybody because right now I feel that

1676
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 7: there's at it smells like shit everywhere.

1677
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 2: Man, so Luke in addition to the division smell like shit.

1678
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 2: She's claiming Paine's afraid to fight Kayla and doesn't want to.

1679
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,600
Speaker 2: She's willing to fight Kayla for the interim. This is

1680
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,560
Speaker 2: certainly good one woman pr to get yourself in the discussion.

1681
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: But is it I see the derision in your face?

1682
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 2: Is it laughable that she's in a title picture of

1683
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five because five wins in a row is

1684
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 2: not nothing?

1685
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: Come on, five wins in a row is not nothing.

1686
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: But I don't have any great like, does she look

1687
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:08,759
Speaker 1: like a championship caliber fighter?

1688
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 5: To you?

1689
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 2: It would be awesome, It would be so awesome.

1690
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: I think I just think it's a complete indictment of

1691
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: this division. You know, listen, UFC winds are tough to

1692
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: come by, and she's gotten five of them in a row,

1693
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: like as you and a kid. That's that's that's not nothing.

1694
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 1: And she's at least trying like it's like Jamal Hill,

1695
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: like she's trying to breathe life into that division. I

1696
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: do respect that, And actually I Hill made that fight more. Yes,

1697
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 1: people love YEI don't get me wrong. He was the

1698
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 1: favorite by a million miles, but Hill being Hill made

1699
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: that fight more exciting. Hill being Hill made that fight

1700
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: much more anticipated. And I think Petz is kind of

1701
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: trending towards that. It's just, you know, on some level,

1702
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: like I expect fighters of a certain caliber to be

1703
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: in championship conversations and that's just not where we're at

1704
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five.

1705
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 2: Even though they led Hollyhulm out of her contract two

1706
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 2: fights early and she's talking about maybe doing boxing a

1707
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 2: few other things, isn't that the right litmus test to

1708
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 2: see if she really is for real?

1709
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: It would have been, it would have been, Yes, that

1710
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: would have been a great one you could have done.

1711
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: But you know, cats out of the bag on that one.

1712
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 2: But it is I have to admit, though, it is

1713
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 2: hard to take her seriously. In fact, here's did she work?

1714
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: She never tworks? That would be so out of character

1715
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: if she worked.

1716
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 2: DC and Morob talking like men do about her tworking.

1717
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: So I follow you on Instagram.

1718
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: I think you're like insanely I think you're like insanely funny.

1719
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: I like when you were slapping that girl's ass, he said,

1720
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 1: he said, can I touch this?

1721
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 6: That's me, I.

1722
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:59,519
Speaker 1: Can I touch this? That was so funny, dude, I.

1723
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 2: Want to touch the heinee.

1724
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah not for me.

1725
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: Okay, finally, Luke on this undercard, I just want to

1726
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: mention Grant Dawson. He's twelve one and one in the

1727
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 2: UFC and Dana White Contender Series fights. But yet, ever

1728
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 2: since that King Green knockout in the first round early,

1729
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,799
Speaker 2: no one seems to take him seriously as a contender.

1730
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 2: He got another win on Saturday. Are we doing him

1731
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 2: right at lightweight or even with that gaudy record? He

1732
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 2: is what he is in your eyes.

1733
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: I do think Grant Dawson is talented and he's got

1734
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: a smothering game plan. That Green loss was real bad, right,

1735
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 1: it was real bad. That set him back real bad.

1736
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: I do think though, like the only way to make

1737
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: use of him is he has to fight other top

1738
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: guys at this point, because I think he can basically

1739
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: beat anybody else, you know, I just don't. He messed

1740
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: things up for himself promotionally by like whiffing on that.

1741
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if they're gonna keep him,

1742
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: that's my point. If you're going to keep the guy around,

1743
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 1: put him into the fights that make the most sense

1744
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: for him in the division. Like if he wins, he winds,

1745
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: he loses, he loses, but you gotta move him up.

1746
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: Fod Chap At this point it's time he called out

1747
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: Darry Yush. It's not an awful fight.

1748
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fine fight.

1749
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. All right, let's go to topic

1750
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 2: number four. UFC three point thirteen goes down March eighth,

1751
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 2: t Mobile Arena, Las Vegas, and no, it will not

1752
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: be bo a ton of heavyweight against Bulkoff. We did

1753
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: find out during Saturday's pay per view after the UFC

1754
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: Social team posted and then deleted, and then we saw

1755
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 2: John Anak announce it. The doubleheader atop the bill will

1756
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 2: finally be Alex pere versus Maga mat Andkeliath for the

1757
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 2: light heavyweight title and in the comin event, as Luke

1758
01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, a lightweight banger for key title contention as

1759
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: Justin Gatchee and Dan Hooker meet. So, Luke, what letter

1760
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 2: grade would you give these two fights atop the marquee

1761
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: for a card in March in Vegas every year that

1762
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 2: tends to be one of the majors typically. Are you

1763
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,600
Speaker 2: moved by these two cards? Do you grade it at?

1764
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 1: Okay? So letter gradeer number grade A minus, A minus,

1765
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: maybe B plus somewhat something like that. I would have

1766
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 1: given it a yeah, eight out of ten for me

1767
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: is how I would have given it, which I guess

1768
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 1: is a buh. But I love these fights. And I

1769
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: love these fights not because they're necessarily the best pairings,

1770
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: although they're great pairings, But in the case of the

1771
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: main event, I love it because Poton gets what we

1772
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: think is probably probably the best challenge he can at

1773
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: two oh five. And you know, listen on Calive has

1774
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 1: made a lot of like Dodo Bird decisions at times,

1775
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 1: but when he's on, he's tough and he has the

1776
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: skills to beat Poton. That's not me saying he will,

1777
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: but I, you know, I legitimately think that he can.

1778
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: I legitimately think that that's a very realistic possibility for him.

1779
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 3: To do that.

1780
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: So there's that. And again it's been long in the making,

1781
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: and after having to fight you clear ountreebviously gave him

1782
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: a tough fight. But like it's number eight, like this

1783
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: is the number one guy, Like anytime that kind of

1784
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: thing happens, it's always important. And then secondly, in the

1785
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: comaine it will be I will be very honest with you,

1786
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: there's absolutely not a thing wrong with this fight. In fact,

1787
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: it's great. I have nothing bad to say about it,

1788
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: except these guys have been around so long, and Gaichee

1789
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: is coming off of the worst knockout loss of his life.

1790
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: I am legitimately terrified for them. I mean that I'm

1791
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: actually not even doing I'm not even doing a fucking bit.

1792
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: I am worried about the kind of damage both of

1793
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: them will probably take in this one. And I know

1794
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 1: this is what they do for a living. The Commission

1795
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 1: will check them ahead of time, is all. The protocol

1796
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 1: is going to be there. I understand that, but this

1797
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: is one of those kinds of fights where, yeah, I

1798
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: could end early, but if it doesn't, these two are

1799
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 1: going to tear each other to pieces. And I have

1800
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: to tell you that gives me, Honestly, if I'm being

1801
01:24:57,479 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: truly honest with myself, it actually makes me a little

1802
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 1: bit fearful for them.

1803
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. I mean early odds here have

1804
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,759
Speaker 2: the veteran former interim champion Gage Ye at minus one fifty,

1805
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 2: hooker plus one twenty five. You know exactly what you're

1806
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: gonna get, as you said, but I got an interesting

1807
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 2: question for you. If we can throw to the odds here,

1808
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: I think our friend Aaron bron said, are over there

1809
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 2: of sports Net showing that the odds have moved from

1810
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 2: minus two hundred and alive to minus one fifty five. So,

1811
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, the question is, even though this is a

1812
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 2: really hard style matchup on paper for Pereira, we understand

1813
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 2: that we've been waiting for it, doesn't it feel weird

1814
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 2: considering the run he's on to see Poton as a

1815
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 2: betting underdog in this matchup?

1816
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: It does. I'm trying to see what our friends at

1817
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 1: DraftKings have. They don't have odds up yet.

1818
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 4: Do they.

1819
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any.

1820
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:44,599
Speaker 1: I looked at it. I don't think they have them

1821
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: up yet, so I'd be curious to see what they

1822
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: when they eventually get him up. What are friends of

1823
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: Draft Kings have? But du Potons is under duress here.

1824
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: This is somebody who, in theory in uncliav can wrestle him.

1825
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: Is somebody who can can certainly control him on the ground. Really,

1826
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:04,560
Speaker 1: no question about that. And Poton has again it's not

1827
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: that he's had easy fights, but he literally had a

1828
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: guy in his last fight being like, I promise not

1829
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: to take you down. Yeah, dude, un Calio's not gonna

1830
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: do that. He's not gonna do that.

1831
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm fired up for this long. I look, you're chirping in.

1832
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,559
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Sorry?

1833
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,959
Speaker 5: DraftKings does have odds up. It's plus one hundred Poeton

1834
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 5: minus one twenty unclio.

1835
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little closer, a little closer, still the underdog.

1836
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: But that's that, dude. I gotta be honest, like I don't.

1837
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: The people can bet how they want and they can

1838
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,560
Speaker 1: see how. I sort of get that. I sort of

1839
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: get the notion that dude Poton's got. Here's the thing.

1840
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: Does Aunt Calive have a lot to prove here?

1841
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 3: BC?

1842
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: Yes he does, no, no question absolutely, But in a way,

1843
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: in a way, doesn't Poton also have a little bit

1844
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: to prove here? In terms of you got to fight

1845
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: a number one ranked guy in this division who can

1846
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: maybe wrestle you, who maybe should have been champed himself

1847
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: quite some time ago, and you've been fighting these guys

1848
01:26:58,200 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: who are just gonna slug it out with you. He's

1849
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: not necessarily going to be that guy. Yeah, there's something

1850
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: a little bit to prove with that, and I think

1851
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 1: that's what makes the fight interesting and intriguing.

1852
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a way, Luke fights Friday Naoi against a

1853
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:12,840
Speaker 2: late replacement but we'll get to that later.

1854
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: The Korean donk right, yeah, the guy that you're doing

1855
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 1: on words, but I'm saying I.

1856
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Was, But is the guy call it? His nickname is

1857
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 2: paki Weather. I'm not. I'm not kidding.

1858
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: Wait like Pakial but packy Weather.

1859
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, like like Floyd and Manny's names together.

1860
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right right, mixing Takia.

1861
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's go. I love this doubleheader at three thirteen.

1862
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm excited for it. Let's go to the final topic.

1863
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 2: And this is actually a big one here. If you've

1864
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 2: been following boxing Twitter over the past week, and it's

1865
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 2: Turkey Ala Sheik teasing a twenty twenty five buffet of

1866
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: blockbuster boxing matchups. So, Luke, I'm gonna read just what

1867
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 2: has been teased by Turkey and the outlets he represents,

1868
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 2: which is Ring Magazine. What have you uh just in

1869
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: the last week here? And then I want to ask

1870
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 2: you a question. Can Vannello Crawford being planned for September

1871
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 2: with the option of both having in our ombouts First,

1872
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 2: Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia are being set up to

1873
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 2: compete on the same card in separate matchups in Times

1874
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 2: Square in May, with Haini taking on former one to

1875
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 2: forty champion Jose Ramirez and Ryan Garcia taking on current

1876
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 2: our former one forty title holder pit Bull Cruise, with

1877
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 2: the idea that they would rematch in the fall Hani

1878
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 2: Garcia two if they both win the Colemane to Hany

1879
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 2: Garcia two in the fall. Turkey wants to match Duran

1880
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 2: Boots Ennis after Boots fight Stanionis in a welterweight title

1881
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 2: unification April twelfth in Atlantic City. Turkey wants to match

1882
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 2: Boots against Tao Femo Lopez this fall, with the idea

1883
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 2: that the winner of Haney Garcia two and the winner

1884
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 2: of Boots versus Tao would face off against one another

1885
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 2: in early twenty six. Then you have Turkey tweeting about

1886
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:01,759
Speaker 2: how he wants to make Anthony Joshua versus Deontay Wilder next.

1887
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: Each which I don't want to see, even.

1888
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 2: Though it seems like AJ wants Martin Bokoli instead, but

1889
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,719
Speaker 2: we'll see how that works out. And then Turkey already

1890
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: announced a catchway bout in April and London Chris Ubank

1891
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 2: Junior Connor Ben finally meeting their fathers fought twice. We

1892
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: all know about that, So Luke here's my question to you,

1893
01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 2: and this is this is not nothing here, This is

1894
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 2: really big. If all of these rumored fights come off

1895
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 2: this calendar year and Turkey succeeds in changing the culture

1896
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 2: and the habits of elite boxers by keeping them active,

1897
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 2: by routinely matching them tough, by getting them to change

1898
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 2: their mindset about what an unbeaten record represents. What will

1899
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 2: we say about Turkey Alaschk, Saudi Arabia and the sport

1900
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 2: of boxing at the end of twenty twenty five.

1901
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 1: Well, we are not even at the beginning of this process.

1902
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 1: We are not even at a place where any of

1903
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: these fights have been signed or delivered or happened. We

1904
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: are not at a place where we have shifted mindset

1905
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: culture in terms of how guys take purses and what

1906
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of fights they take and under what kinds of conditions.

1907
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: Like you know, it's I'm not gonna say it's easy

1908
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 1: to do what Turkey does. That's that's not my point.

1909
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,560
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, without his dramatic wealth to incentivize

1910
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 1: a culture change, there isn't like, there's no catalyst to

1911
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,120
Speaker 1: make this happen. And then also, I wonder if once

1912
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,679
Speaker 1: that money leaves, if that catalyst to make that happen

1913
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,479
Speaker 1: is no longer in play, don't they just resort to

1914
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 1: their previous practices like it's a lasting culture change of

1915
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: the kind you're describing. That is not a simple or

1916
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: automatic thing to do, even with big money and a

1917
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: good attempt at making fights. However, let's see, I'm not

1918
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: declaring to you what way it's gonna go or not.

1919
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,640
Speaker 1: I think in answer to how the sport is going

1920
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 1: to view Turkey and the Saudi's, you can kind of

1921
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: already answer that without even really knowing what's gonna happen

1922
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: this year. If they deliver on Canelo Crawford, and if

1923
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 1: they deliver on Haini, Garcia too, or the other bouts,

1924
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 1: and then of course Boots taking on te all that stuff,

1925
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 1: if they deliver on all of it, you're only gonna

1926
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 1: to get more of what you already have. Namely, there's

1927
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people, why not a lot of people.

1928
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:07,559
Speaker 1: There are some people like me who think, I don't

1929
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 1: know how good this influence is. And it's a little

1930
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 1: weird to do business so closely with a despotic monarchy,

1931
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 1: But okay, that's where we are, and let's see what happens.

1932
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 1: Most boxing fans, from what I can tell, really love

1933
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: what Turkey is doing, and it's not difficult to figure

1934
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: out why. If you had to ask the question, forget

1935
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: everything else sports watching. You don't like the shows, that

1936
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 1: they're too long, whatever your complaint is about Turkey and

1937
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: the studies being involved. If I just had to ask

1938
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 1: net net, are you getting more and better fights vs.

1939
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 4: A V.

1940
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: What Turkey is doing than you would under the normal alternative,

1941
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: the answer is unequivocally yes. The answer is yes, you.

1942
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 2: Have to recontink the culture. Yeah, we'll do it.

1943
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: I the future is hard to know. Let me just

1944
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 1: tell you my personal opinion, and if you have a

1945
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: different opinion, actually would really like to hear it, because

1946
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 1: I think the audience should hear both. I think lasting

1947
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 1: culture changes are very difficult to make, and without a

1948
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: consistent kind of abnormal monetary presence supercharging that culture change,

1949
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: it's going to be very difficult, if not impossible, to maintain.

1950
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: Why do you feel differently, Well, I don't know.

1951
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know what the fallout is going to

1952
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:29,759
Speaker 2: be after this year in a lot of the areas,

1953
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 2: from sportswashing to what will this mean about boxing in

1954
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 2: North America? Although we do see Turkey saying he wants

1955
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 2: to bring a Ring magazine series to the States, we

1956
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 2: hear that Canelo Crawford would be in Vegas and it

1957
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't involve a rehydration, you know thing. So there's some

1958
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,800
Speaker 2: things I'm really starting to like, go okay, if you're

1959
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 2: not going to f with that, if we're going to

1960
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:51,920
Speaker 2: get closer to one title that's recognized with the Ring

1961
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 2: Magazine belt, which a lot of people think is coming.

1962
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 2: These are solving a lot of the problems that have

1963
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,639
Speaker 2: gotten in the way of consistent entertainment in this sport.

1964
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 2: We're so nervous at what the cost will be. But

1965
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 2: at the same time, if all of these fights come

1966
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 2: off and these fighters, these young fighters who we just

1967
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 2: wish would all fight each other, we wish the Five

1968
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 2: Princes would all fight each other as many times as

1969
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 2: the Four Kings did in the eighties. Turkey's actually building

1970
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:21,080
Speaker 2: a scenario in which that feels like inevitable right now,

1971
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 2: and I wonder what it's gonna be. I wonder what

1972
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 2: happens with somebody with a big O takesonel. Are they

1973
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 2: gonna just get up off the canvas and match tough again.

1974
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 2: I mean it's interesting. Let's show a couple of Turkey

1975
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:34,639
Speaker 2: tweets here explaining a little bit deeper on what he's

1976
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 2: trying to do. Here's him saying it is easy fight

1977
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 2: in May, meaning Hani and Garcia on separate fights, then

1978
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 2: the big rematch, and in the same card we try

1979
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 2: Tao against Boots, winner against winner, loser against loser. By

1980
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 2: the way in February. Need to discuss with our partners

1981
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 2: top rank in match Room, Golden Boy and PBC. So

1982
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 2: rather than creating a league, he's partnering with anybody, everybody.

1983
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:56,840
Speaker 2: And look, this is a specific tweet I want to

1984
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 2: get you to react to. They talk a lot about

1985
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 2: the fights, but what happens in the end is that

1986
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 2: the final answer is with us, prepare soon for announcing

1987
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 2: the biggest schedule of the year for the year in

1988
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 2: boxing history. While the latter part of that is certainly enticing.

1989
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 2: I didn't overlook what he said, talk what you want

1990
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 2: about the fights, meaning the fighters on social media, but

1991
01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 2: the answer was with us. I think it's his way

1992
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 2: of basically saying out to the fighters like, if you're

1993
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 2: in you're playing by my rules. And we are matching tough.

1994
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 2: That's what we do. You can talk what you want.

1995
01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to fight this guy, whatever the answer

1996
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,839
Speaker 2: is with us, Dude. He's building a level of control

1997
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 2: through the money that we've never seen anyone be able

1998
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 2: to do before. Let's see the tweet now about undefeated fighters.

1999
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 2: We must now have it be normal to lose some

2000
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 2: fights in boxing all the fighters want similar to the

2001
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 2: career or of Mayweather's zero losses, this can happen one

2002
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 2: time every fifty sixty seventy years. We need like the

2003
01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 2: UFC model now where the champions are losing and winning.

2004
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,600
Speaker 2: Ali lost five times and he's still a legend. That

2005
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 2: was Turkey talking with Carl Frotch, Luke, these are big statements.

2006
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,640
Speaker 2: We haven't seen anyone in control in boxing with this

2007
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:06,599
Speaker 2: much power in a long time, and we certainly haven't

2008
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 2: seen this express way of doing it of like let's

2009
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 2: go video game fun, fantasy matchmaking, and after you've beat

2010
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 2: this guy, you're fighting that next guy, and if you

2011
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 2: lose to this guy, you're fighting the loser of that one.

2012
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 2: This is a dream, This is a dream for long

2013
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 2: boxing fans. Luke, I don't know what comes with this dream.

2014
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:27,920
Speaker 2: But to act like I'm not jumping out of my

2015
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 2: skin with excitement would be would be a lie.

2016
01:35:31,120 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 1: I will say this. I don't again, I don't know

2017
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:35,680
Speaker 1: what to make of it. I think everyone should be

2018
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 1: very careful about getting into bed with a religious monarchy

2019
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 1: and dictatorial monarchy. I don't think that's a small thing.

2020
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 1: It's actually a pretty big thing. But at the same time,

2021
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 1: Turkey is right about one thing for sure, and it

2022
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 1: comes from MMA, and people in boxing have always known this,

2023
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 1: but this is not what they practiced in the Floyd

2024
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,560
Speaker 1: Ara in particular, really kind of made it hard. He

2025
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 1: is right when he says it's better if you have

2026
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,600
Speaker 1: some losses, but you take tougher fights. It's better for

2027
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 1: the guy, like it's better that when you take a loss,

2028
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't count as much. The fans just want the

2029
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 1: better fights, and it enables better fights to get made.

2030
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: And dude, he saw that, and all of us saw it.

2031
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:17,640
Speaker 1: Because of what MMA has done and UFC's success, we

2032
01:36:17,680 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: should be very clear about that. UFC matches their guys

2033
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 1: very tough, very very tough. But what it ended up

2034
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 1: doing was making a loss, not as not always, but

2035
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: in most cases not as bad as it ordinarily would

2036
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 1: have been. They're much more common and the fans just

2037
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:33,240
Speaker 1: really want to see people go up against, you know,

2038
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: the toughest challenges possible. It's a lesson that Mma has.

2039
01:36:36,240 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 1: That boxing knew anyway, but that Mma really made irrefutable.

2040
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: It made it irrefutable that, you know, all you have

2041
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:45,639
Speaker 1: to preserve your record. Yeah, if you're really really, really

2042
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 1: really good, you can do that. But for everybody else,

2043
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 1: take the tough fights. You're gonna win somebe you're gonna lose.

2044
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 1: The we're gonna love you more in the end.

2045
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 2: Dude, this is this is crazy. Let's hear from Turkey.

2046
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, from Tayo Fema Lopez, who.

2047
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 1: Uses lots of things, doesn't he Yeah, but.

2048
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 2: Just listen particularly to like why the fighters love working

2049
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 2: with Turkey. I know you could just say, well it's

2050
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,560
Speaker 2: the money. Well, look, fighters fight, they want to be

2051
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 2: active and take big chances. They want to be paid

2052
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 2: for it. They're getting the opportunity. Here's tale.

2053
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, Turkey mentioned you in a tweet that yeah, he

2054
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 9: hopes that you're gonna face Boots.

2055
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 6: Yes, and then the winner faces maybe the winner of

2056
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 6: Ryan and Devin.

2057
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 2: That's what it's looking like, yeah, we're looking forward to it.

2058
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's all about the best fighting the best.

2059
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 2: And you know, listen, I think, yeah, man, we're here

2060
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 2: to be shown like la.

2061
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: What do you mean when that Boots fight?

2062
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 2: Like, how close are we to it? The only thing

2063
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 2: now is just us winning our next fights.

2064
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 1: That's it. That's as close as it's gonna get. And

2065
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 1: so then so you're having to fight before Yeah the

2066
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 1: Boots fight, Yes, yes, yes, And then we go to

2067
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 1: forty seven, yeah you can you do you know who

2068
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 1: it's gonna be?

2069
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 6: Is they like single down to someone? While we were

2070
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 6: talking right now Richards and Hitchins.

2071
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna unify, no way.

2072
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 2: Yeah that's a good fight, bro.

2073
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah so too well, time fights lined up?

2074
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 2: And then you know, when do you think that fight's

2075
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 2: gonna happen with the Richard tayl oh Man?

2076
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 1: Stay tuned. That's not like I saying, what do you think?

2077
01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 1: Like with may very soon? Very soon?

2078
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 2: That's some beauty about it.

2079
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:14,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna get everything done.

2080
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 5: So the whole goal is just getting everything done right

2081
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 5: now and finalize and and you know that my team,

2082
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 5: my legal team is doing a great job.

2083
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 2: So that's it, really. I mean, look, can imagine if

2084
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 2: this calendar year, Tao fights Richardson Hitchens to unify one forty,

2085
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 2: then fights Boots, and if he wins, he sets up

2086
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 2: to fight the winner of Garcia Haney too. Garcia Ryan

2087
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 2: Garcia could fight Pitpull Cruise, and then Devin Haney and

2088
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 2: then the winner of Boots versus Tao. I could name

2089
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 2: all the other young fighters and give you similar breakdowns.

2090
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 2: If that happens, or eighty percent of it happens, we're

2091
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 2: gonna have the nineteen eighties all over again, and it's

2092
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 2: gonna in it and it might be a great thing. Luke,

2093
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 2: there's a price that comes with this. But it's setting

2094
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 2: up right now. And as much as I don't like

2095
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 2: necessarily that you're announcing ahead of time, like well, this

2096
01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 2: guy's gonna beat this guy and then he's gonna fight

2097
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 2: this guy, it also does give you, like a storyline

2098
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 2: and some connective tissue. You know what it leads to,

2099
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 2: what it builds to, I don't know, dude. It's getting

2100
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: pretty exciting. It's getting pretty exciting. Okay, fighters, Let's let's

2101
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 2: see what they can come up with. They talk, They

2102
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:20,240
Speaker 2: talk in a good game.

2103
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: Uh, and they've they've delivered big I admit, let's let's

2104
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 1: see what happens.

2105
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 2: Final bit here. TMZ caught up with Canelo UH to

2106
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 2: talk about Bud Crawford, which seems to be fairly confident

2107
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 2: in across the boxing world that we're headed this way

2108
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 2: for September, no catchway or no rehydration clause. Here's Canelo,

2109
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 2: who started to dunk on butt a little bit.

2110
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,360
Speaker 1: Are you tired of people asking you about Terrence yet?

2111
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 4: No? Look, there's like I always say, yeah, you expect

2112
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 4: there's Scaffer. He's a.

2113
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Very talent. He just win one big fight.

2114
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 4: If you see his record, he just beat one good fighter,

2115
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 4: Aerospence is But other than that, I don't I don't

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01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 4: think he's beating an other great fighter like a Spence.

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01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 4: He did a really good job with the Spence. He

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01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 4: did like almost look very easy because but I knew

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Speaker 4: there's gun for he's a great fighter.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you never know.

2121
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 4: In busy we'll see.

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01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 2: I was a little surprised to see that, Luke, But

2123
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 2: this being a reality, Holy crap, we're getting everything we want.

2124
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 1: Well after they fight September, we'll have to Wow. Wow,

2125
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 1: you can Mark me down Team Crawford.

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01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:44,640
Speaker 2: I see a lot of I see it changing a

2127
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 2: lot of people. When this first was was talked about

2128
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 2: after the Spence fight with Team Crawford all the way.

2129
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 2: Now I'm seeing a lot of people that know are saying,

2130
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 2: I love the idea, but Canal is going to hurt

2131
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 2: this guy. Is gonna cut off the ring and hurt

2132
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,560
Speaker 2: this guy. We'll see, we'll see that's one of the

2133
01:40:57,680 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 2: I mean, but he'll be thirty eight but still great.

2134
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 2: All right, that's your top five topics for the week

2135
01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 2: here on Monday. Let's get in now to hear from

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01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 2: the fans every Sunday night on our social media accounts

2137
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 2: on Instagram and x at Morning Combat, we put the

2138
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 2: call out to you to send in your questions. This

2139
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 2: is DMS from dogs Well that was gross from Chaw

2140
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 2: Underscore Vita. Would you guys be excited for Yuri Prohatska

2141
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 2: versus Israel Atasanya at two oh five? And if so,

2142
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 2: who do you think would win?

2143
01:41:32,280 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 3: Oh?

2144
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 1: I actually think it's a tough fight for Izzy at

2145
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 1: two o five. Damn right, Yeah, I'd probably pick Yerie

2146
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 1: at that one. I think he obviously, I think Izzy

2147
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 1: would still land on him, but I him willing to

2148
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 1: take a punch from a natural middleweight and walk through

2149
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 1: it to then land big on Izzy, I think would work.

2150
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if Izzy could reinvent some life at

2151
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 2: two o five or if it's just going to be

2152
01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 2: diminishing returns against bigger strikers, you know what I mean.

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01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 1: It's tough to say. I mean, he's been bulking up

2154
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: all this time, but yeah, it's a good question.

2155
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 2: I don't know how any did you get moved seeing

2156
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 2: him and Robert Whitaker grow up and talk about DDP

2157
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 2: together and that live stream they did.

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01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure you were into it. Yeah, I watched the

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01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: I watched their UFC three eleven breakdown too.

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01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved it. I love seeing that all right.

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01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 2: Question two from Mike herenschin nineteen ninety five, where does

2162
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 2: RDR go from here? Meaning Renier de Ritter. They clearly

2163
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 2: gave him two quasi tests to start without giving him

2164
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:30,720
Speaker 2: an outright gateway to being ranked. Could you see the

2165
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 2: next fight being a top ten guy? And Luke let

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01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,600
Speaker 2: me add on to that, who is the opponent that

2167
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 2: you think is next for RDR to challenge himself against?

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01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 1: Definitely not Bo Nickel because Bo won't go to the

2169
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 1: ground with him. So let's let's let's do what you

2170
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Where is Hernandez ranked.

2171
01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 2: Twelve, Let's do that one, not Shower Bullet at fourteen,

2172
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 2: not Michelle today at fifteen.

2173
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 1: Let's do Let's do Hernandez.

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01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 2: What about follow Costa at eleven? What about that?

2175
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: You could do that one too. I like the idea

2176
01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 1: of a rematch. I like the idea of what Hernandez

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01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: brings at this point. I think it's a great test

2178
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 1: to see where both of them are at.

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01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 2: I got it Victori at five because he's ranked higher

2180
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 2: than he should be five.

2181
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:09,600
Speaker 1: If you're gonna get the guy a guy in the

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01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: top five.

2183
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 2: Let's find out Victori's interesting style matchup for him.

2184
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:15,720
Speaker 1: Let's find out I think Vittori lumps him up.

2185
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:18,439
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I gotta see that happen. Let's go

2186
01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:21,600
Speaker 2: to flannels and JITs. You probably wash those. With the

2187
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:25,759
Speaker 2: NCAAA deciding to make women's wrestling and official D one sport.

2188
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 2: How much will this impact women's MMA in the next

2189
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 2: few years. Look, this is a great question.

2190
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 1: It is a good question, and it did it for

2191
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 1: I think all three levels Division one, two, and three,

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01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 1: I believe, but I have to double check, but I

2193
01:43:37,160 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 1: think it's big b see. I mean, you know, women's

2194
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 1: MMA is still behind the men's game, both in terms

2195
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 1: of how many people compete, how many divisions, how much

2196
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 1: money is there, but it's still ahead of a lot

2197
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 1: of other opportunities that these women would otherwise not get.

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01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 1: It's still another outlet.

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01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 1: Of course, NIL will play a role as they kind

2201
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 1: of formalize the architecture, so to speak, of women's wrestling

2202
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 1: in collegiate athletics. But I think it actually makes it

2203
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 1: more likely to either go into jiu jitsu or MMA,

2204
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,600
Speaker 1: but that they continue a combat sports career after that.

2205
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: I think it's remember MMA jims will sometimes go to

2206
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 1: Division one qualifiers or national championships to even recruit. So

2207
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 1: like a lot going on here with what could happen?

2208
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this development. This is a good stuff

2209
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 2: out of here. This will inevitably increase the flow of

2210
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 2: good athletes coming to women's MMA. And the time is

2211
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 2: right because you know, you could say Women's MMA is

2212
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 2: hitting a a A.

2213
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 1: It sucks right now. It sucks right now.

2214
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 2: Number four is from Steven Armitage eighty nine two part

2215
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 2: question for me. First, how big was LTS Bonair during

2216
01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:46,839
Speaker 2: the Commander's Lions game? And second, does a win against

2217
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:49,799
Speaker 2: Hooker put Gaichie back in the title picture?

2218
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: It does, doesn't it? I think it does.

2219
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 2: It probably does because Islam has not fought Gaichie.

2220
01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 1: That's correct, right right, he hasn't. And again they have

2221
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 1: the same manager and stuff, so who knows. But the

2222
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,720
Speaker 1: answer is yes, Uh dude, I I will tell you

2223
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: about this Commander season. Man, Like I had some hope

2224
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 1: for them, but dude, they just keep doing things that

2225
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 1: I keep waiting for the season to be over, and

2226
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 1: it just never. It's not. It just keeps going. It

2227
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 1: just keeps going. He has to be absolutely livid the

2228
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 1: the the minute that he leaves everything like Cinderella, you know,

2229
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:30,679
Speaker 1: the pumpkin goes away and everything just becomes so nice

2230
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:32,680
Speaker 1: and like the fan base comes. Dude. It's not just

2231
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 1: like the team is performing well, like people want to

2232
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: go to Commander's games again. People are happy. He did

2233
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: so much damage over the course of his twenty years.

2234
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 1: So I'll just say this, I did I think they

2235
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:46,360
Speaker 1: were gonna be the Lions.

2236
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 2: Fuck?

2237
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:48,479
Speaker 1: No, I think they're gonna be the Lions. They hung

2238
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:51,720
Speaker 1: forty five on him, So I don't know what's possible BC,

2239
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 1: but I'm I'll join the ride, and I'm I'm so

2240
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: happy about it.

2241
01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:57,720
Speaker 2: Is it next week the NFC Championship.

2242
01:45:57,800 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, against the against the Eagles. Eagles?

2243
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 2: Can they beat him?

2244
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 1: They already beat him once. Granted they beat him when

2245
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was out, but he got hurt in this game.

2246
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be there next week either.

2247
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: And uh, I think I think when Jalen Jayden Daniels

2248
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: is on, he can he can outplay any offense in

2249
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,320
Speaker 1: that league. I believe that or any defense. Excuse me,

2250
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 1: with the.

2251
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 2: Joy that you could undergo and the Commanders winning the

2252
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 2: Super Bowl this year, is the level of joy higher

2253
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 2: than the level of heartbreak would be if they lost

2254
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 2: to the Bills in the Super Bowl.

2255
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be completely honest with you. I don't

2256
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: have any They have vastly exceeded my expectations already. This

2257
01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 1: is all just bonus time. I honestly didn't think since

2258
01:46:43,880 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 1: the nineties anyway, that I was ever gonna see the

2259
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 1: then the Commanders win a Super Bowl. It wasn't even

2260
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:54,479
Speaker 1: it's not even fathomable to me because it hasn't been

2261
01:46:54,640 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 1: for all of my adult life. So we'll just see.

2262
01:46:57,800 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 1: But like to me, to me, I'm just telling you,

2263
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:01,400
Speaker 1: they could lose. I don't obviously, I don't want them

2264
01:47:01,439 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 1: to lose, but they could lose. And I am so

2265
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:06,080
Speaker 1: happy with how everything has gone for this rookie season

2266
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 1: and this new team.

2267
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 2: So the last time they won was the ninety one

2268
01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 2: regular season with Mark Rippins acne?

2269
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 1: Is that correct? I mean, I don't know if it

2270
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 1: was with his acne, but you know it was Mark Rippon.

2271
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 2: He had a career year that year. Luke he made

2272
01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 2: Who was the receiver that that took advantage of that most?

2273
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 6: He was old?

2274
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 2: But the other guy eighty two, you know what I'm talking.

2275
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: About, I'm not sure. I mean Riggins was the running

2276
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 1: back basically, not in ninety one one one, But I'm

2277
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:35,520
Speaker 1: like the famous.

2278
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 2: Like ed Byner and old Gerald Riggs and yes, yeah

2279
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:45,679
Speaker 2: for Gary Clark, Gary Clark, thank yes, guitarist Gary Clark Junior. Yeah.

2280
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Okay.

2281
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,200
Speaker 2: Final question comes to us from the main card minute.

2282
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 2: Why do we give him a favorite flavor? Dummy?

2283
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 1: Like this is something we like? What is it? Water

2284
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:01,519
Speaker 1: sour watermelon. Like, this is like asking what your favorite

2285
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 1: flavor of Mad Dog twenty twenty is. It doesn't matter

2286
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 1: you're drinking Mad Dog twenty twenty.

2287
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that's your answer, all right, each I call what

2288
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 2: sour watermelon? That sounds like that seems like a fantastic flavor.

2289
01:48:13,320 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's the most artificial sour watermelon flavor imaginable time.

2290
01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2291
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:20,200
Speaker 1: But the vape flavors you choose are always like yeah,

2292
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,559
Speaker 1: this is also a ridiculous thing that I do. I mean,

2293
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 1: but they're not like, you know, favorite, like I don't know.

2294
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 1: It's a weird question to ask.

2295
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:30,360
Speaker 2: Why can't you get a vape sponsorship? Why why can

2296
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:30,600
Speaker 2: you not?

2297
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 1: I probably could if I tried, right, well, it.

2298
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 2: Would increase the likelihood of your early death.

2299
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 1: That's okay, all right.

2300
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 2: I got one more segment for you, and it's where Oh,

2301
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 2: by the way, thank you for your DM questions. Morning

2302
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 2: Coombat at gmail dot com. We do fan subs and

2303
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 2: dead wrong on Friday. I know Daz will willhollow us there,

2304
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 2: so if you want to get involved, email the show

2305
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 2: right there, but do not send Mikey a piece of

2306
01:48:55,000 --> 01:49:00,839
Speaker 2: your genitalia. Thank you all, right final segment, Boy scoured

2307
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 2: the globe right for the his and lows, the good,

2308
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 2: the bad, the ugly, the in between, the worlds of

2309
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 2: combat sports and beyond. We call this have you seen Ullah?

2310
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 2: Look for all this talk about what's gonna happen in

2311
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:25,200
Speaker 2: boxing in twenty twenty five, why are we never talking

2312
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 2: about our boy? A bigger bang Hillel Jong has a

2313
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 2: new catchphrase. Baby, It's not Chinese power, it's this one.

2314
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 7: Do you have anything to say to Agit Cab I'm

2315
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 7: bigger band Iano?

2316
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 6: No?

2317
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 1: Didny a ha ha?

2318
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 2: He's gonna fight Ajit Kabayell on February twenty second on

2319
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 2: that loaded card. So they caught up with Kabba Yell

2320
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 2: and got his reaction.

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01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: He said he's gonna bang you. No?

2322
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 6: Did he?

2323
01:49:54,280 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 1: Yes?

2324
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 4: I heard her.

2325
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 1: You say you will bang me, but my name is

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01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,200
Speaker 1: ag Kabail. I say this, My name is ag Kaba

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01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:01,439
Speaker 1: he names I will bring him?

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01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 4: No?

2329
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 2: Did he? Bro?

2330
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 1: Come on, combat sports is the dumbest set of sports

2331
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 1: on earth.

2332
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 2: Yes, wonderful? All right? Uh, we had some jokes here.

2333
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:17,800
Speaker 2: Serious our boy. Allen Dawson was at the three to

2334
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 2: eleven post fight pressure in corner Dana White about the

2335
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,320
Speaker 2: New York Times report on the upcoming boxing league.

2336
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:27,080
Speaker 8: Last year, you told us earlier this year you'd have

2337
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 8: an announcement to make about entering boxing. Are you close

2338
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 8: to making that announcement? Uh no, No.

2339
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 3: There's stories being written out there, but no.

2340
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:41,480
Speaker 8: In the New York Times with the boxing league with Turkyik.

2341
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that article.

2342
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 1: What did you make of it?

2343
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 3: I think that the article is incredibly premature and if

2344
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 3: there was, if there was a deal done, it would

2345
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 3: have been announced. You would have had quotes for me.

2346
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,719
Speaker 3: No quotes from me or UFC or anything.

2347
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 8: So once the Apex has had its expansion, could we

2348
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 8: see folks saying at the Apex?

2349
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 3: I think you can see a lot of things at

2350
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,600
Speaker 3: the Apex after the expansion. The Apex is gonna be

2351
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 3: bad ass when it's done. It's like a twenty six

2352
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 3: to thirty million dollar expansion, so it's gonna be very nice.

2353
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:14,760
Speaker 2: Look what do you make of this update and the

2354
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 2: New York Times report? It said an announcement was weeks away.

2355
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 2: Data makes it seem like it's not close.

2356
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I

2357
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what to make of that. I

2358
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 1: maybe he's like tamping down enthusiasm because they want to

2359
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:26,759
Speaker 1: have a big reveal.

2360
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 2: Could be Yeah, we'll find out. All right, Hey, Luke,

2361
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 2: we never talked about top hockey on this show.

2362
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 1: All right, Maybe this is what Alex olveskin bitch.

2363
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:37,360
Speaker 2: He's standing in front of the net with about eight

2364
01:51:37,439 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 2: inches of his shaft in his hand.

2365
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 1: Hey, if you got eight inches, just grab it wherever

2366
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 1: you're at. Man, let everybody know.

2367
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:50,280
Speaker 2: Thank you, man Dingo. All right, let's go over to

2368
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 2: UFC three eleven odds and ends. Luke. This was an

2369
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 2: interview before UFC three eleven when Kevin Holland was on

2370
01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 2: the Jackson Jackson podcast.

2371
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 1: You know, we're I think it's pronounced Jackson.

2372
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he almost fought Rampage. But here's him talking about

2373
01:52:04,439 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 2: his training regimen for the RDR fight.

2374
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:08,639
Speaker 1: Be doing an in and out of camp. That's allowing

2375
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,799
Speaker 1: you to stay so healthy. I smoke weed, fucked bad bitches,

2376
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:15,960
Speaker 1: and ultimately just enjoy my life. Sounds about right.

2377
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 2: It showed in the fight.

2378
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, hold on, why was he trying I heard about this.

2379
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:21,559
Speaker 1: Why was he trying to fight Rampage?

2380
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 2: You know it didn't I watched half the video. It

2381
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,200
Speaker 2: didn't really interest me long out. Look, you got any

2382
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:28,240
Speaker 2: more insight on this? Why did they almost fight on

2383
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:28,599
Speaker 2: the Pope?

2384
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I will say my live chat

2385
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 5: was blowing up. Everyone was like, go watch that podcast.

2386
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,080
Speaker 5: So it is on my list, but I haven't seen

2387
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 5: it yet.

2388
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much. Let's keep it going

2389
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 2: with three eleven odds and ends. Here's a tutorial Morob

2390
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 2: put out before the fight out how to properly do

2391
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 2: a triangle joke.

2392
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 5: Today.

2393
01:52:45,360 --> 01:52:49,519
Speaker 6: I'm gonna show you triangle choke. I'm here please, So

2394
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:53,560
Speaker 6: hands down, Les come, dis ray face.

2395
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:58,439
Speaker 2: Dumb legs luck and then now choke is on. Oh

2396
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 2: that's guys, the world champion. He's a hero and he

2397
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,640
Speaker 2: puts out videos like this. You can't write mma, this

2398
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:11,440
Speaker 2: is incredible.

2399
01:53:11,560 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 1: The best part was I knew who that creator was

2400
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:18,320
Speaker 1: Prean City. She's she's Colombian. Yeah, oh wow.

2401
01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 2: All right, one more we talk about how much Islam

2402
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 2: and Company ripped DC being fat. They did it another

2403
01:53:24,439 --> 01:53:25,360
Speaker 2: time this week too.

2404
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 1: It's like it's impossible you go to Las Vegas. Why

2405
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 1: Las Vegas? It's very far fifty minions by fly from

2406
01:53:32,280 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 1: your host. Yeah, but if I go to the fly.

2407
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 1: I never know if maybe they threw me out. They threw.

2408
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 2: This is the crazy and you can't help people.

2409
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 1: Bro, Why did you kick him out like this? Crazy?

2410
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 2: Why do you do this to my guy?

2411
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 3: I don't know what is this?

2412
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:55,720
Speaker 1: Number one bullshit disrespect?

2413
01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 2: But I understand if you if this geek you out

2414
01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:04,240
Speaker 2: from this emergen X because you're so big, maybe.

2415
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:09,599
Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't be disrespectful, disrespectful. I get help

2416
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 1: because you need stric to pull the bar a little

2417
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 1: bit big. Now you can move too much, but all

2418
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: you gotta do is pull the lever.

2419
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:16,760
Speaker 4: That's it.

2420
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:18,200
Speaker 1: But people have to go.

2421
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 2: From this set.

2422
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, but once I once I pull, you go first.

2423
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:27,120
Speaker 2: I got dude. We got to show Islam the picture

2424
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:29,040
Speaker 2: of him in that WW referee shirt in the next

2425
01:54:29,080 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 2: interview and get his take on it.

2426
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear Islam roast him.

2427
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:37,120
Speaker 2: All right, Luke. You know people that are shorter than

2428
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 2: people realize their celebrities. You know they have this trick

2429
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 2: where they take pictures and they stand on their toes. Yeah,

2430
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 2: he does that. Let's watch this. So here's some pics

2431
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 2: of him taking pictures with Finns. But you know there

2432
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 2: was one picture where he didn't stand on his toes.

2433
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 2: Did you see it?

2434
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 1: Was it next to Danny DeVito or something close?

2435
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 2: Luke, here's here's some footage yup, see on toes.

2436
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 1: Take a picture with faer athletes.

2437
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,839
Speaker 2: Don't let them know you, Oh boy, that flat footed?

2438
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 1: Okay, you got me. I didn't know that was covered.

2439
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's funny, that's funny. That's all right, Luke.

2440
01:55:16,640 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 2: Do you ever imagine when you look at your teachers

2441
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 2: when you're in school, You ever imagine what it sounds

2442
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 2: like when they fart?

2443
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:26,440
Speaker 4: M hm.

2444
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 5: Hm.

2445
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 2: The last one was so good. All right, here's your

2446
01:55:45,800 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 2: pro wrestling Pro Wrestling Death of the Week lude, Bill's Mafia. Baby,

2447
01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:06,520
Speaker 2: They're everywhere, Luke, that.

2448
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,560
Speaker 1: Was Bill's Mafia. I would have cheered it. Actually feel

2449
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,440
Speaker 1: bad for that guy, Bill Mafia. I don't feel bad

2450
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 1: for like they just get frostbite and paralyze yourself, you

2451
01:56:12,800 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 1: fucking oaks.

2452
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:15,920
Speaker 2: Luke. Have you ever been to that spot in the

2453
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 2: southwest of America where you can be in the you

2454
01:56:18,160 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 2: can touch all four states at once. They also, yeah, yeah,

2455
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 2: let's watch this.

2456
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 1: This has never been done before.

2457
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:27,960
Speaker 5: We got Utah here, we got New Mexico there, Colorado here,

2458
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 5: Arizona here.

2459
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the first man to do this in

2460
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: all four states at once. How high were you when

2461
01:56:41,000 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 1: you put this together?

2462
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:47,080
Speaker 2: Well, look, get out of inauguration day today we have

2463
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 2: a classic John F. Kennedy speech that people don't play

2464
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 2: that much. They should.

2465
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 1: He has Americans, and as a people of kind hearts,

2466
01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 1: we'll focus all efforts to thwarting the division that comes

2467
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 1: from Candace. Who's candy.

2468
01:57:03,560 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 2: Candystick feeding your mouth?

2469
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so we got the answer. You were very high

2470
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 1: when you put this together.

2471
01:57:19,120 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going. Look, this is wild.

2472
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:26,600
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, don't know, no, don't know.

2473
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 2: Don't stay down reading badly, you're leading bad No, no,

2474
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 2: sit on us, stay out, just stay here, brother. But

2475
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:41,720
Speaker 2: there's help on the way.

2476
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: There's help.

2477
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:44,960
Speaker 2: There's help on the way.

2478
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:45,200
Speaker 4: Brother.

2479
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:51,839
Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay. He again, man, Oh my god.

2480
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 2: No, he's on your head of hand. No, no, no,

2481
01:57:58,280 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 2: he's on his way out of here.

2482
01:57:59,680 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 1: Hell.

2483
01:58:01,000 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 2: Hell, dude, that's a hell of a plot twist right there.

2484
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 7: Right.

2485
01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 2: I want what he was on, yeah, PC, I think.

2486
01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:23,320
Speaker 1: I want I want what he was on. When he

2487
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: lost his shoe. I was like, that's how those shoes

2488
01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:27,280
Speaker 1: end up on the side of the Florida Highway, you

2489
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean?

2490
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 2: I thought he was getting a run over.

2491
01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:30,400
Speaker 1: That was you were the last time we were in

2492
01:58:30,440 --> 01:58:32,160
Speaker 1: Florida together and we saw a drug deal just on

2493
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 1: the side of the highway there in Miami.

2494
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 2: That was great, Luke. Let's do a new segment. It's

2495
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:40,560
Speaker 2: called Aska Marine. So first of all, I want to

2496
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:41,720
Speaker 2: say thank you for your service.

2497
01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:43,760
Speaker 1: You ever tried whippets?

2498
01:58:44,720 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 4: No?

2499
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:46,440
Speaker 2: You interested?

2500
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 1: All right?

2501
01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 2: Now, hey, you want to run a train on Osbourne? Yeah?

2502
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:54,560
Speaker 1: Actually he would have said, yes, that was a lance corporal.

2503
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 1: That's an O three, that's a that's a non rate basically.

2504
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Luke. Reggie Jackson, as I'm mentioned on

2505
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 2: my live chat last week, is he's in some hot

2506
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 2: water in this house.

2507
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 1: Luke.

2508
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:05,680
Speaker 2: They want him gone. All right, he's been he's been

2509
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 2: keeping everybody up all night. But here's who he should

2510
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 2: aspire to be.

2511
01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 1: Yo, look at this motherfucker. Look at that.

2512
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 2: Damn that is awesome right there. All right, let's go

2513
01:59:20,440 --> 01:59:21,000
Speaker 2: to the disco.

2514
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:33,880
Speaker 1: I want all the I want all the drugs that

2515
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:35,920
Speaker 1: this guy is on Luke.

2516
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:38,000
Speaker 2: Some fans sent this to me and said, Luke would

2517
01:59:38,040 --> 01:59:40,280
Speaker 2: know where this is. Have you heard of Fenix City,

2518
01:59:40,360 --> 01:59:43,920
Speaker 2: Alabama or Phoenix City. It's on the Georgia Alabama border.

2519
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't think so, all right, they said you.

2520
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:48,920
Speaker 2: Would know where this area is. Check out this road

2521
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:50,240
Speaker 2: rage incident on the bridge here.

2522
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where that is. I don't. I don't

2523
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 1: have any knowledge of the Alabama Georgia border very much.

2524
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:10,640
Speaker 1: But that looks about right.

2525
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, let's go to your hat of the week.

2526
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:18,560
Speaker 1: Roses are red, violets are blue, I eat koochie and

2527
02:00:18,720 --> 02:00:19,760
Speaker 1: booty whole two.

2528
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,360
Speaker 2: Uh, Luke, you know what, the kids today won't understand

2529
02:00:25,640 --> 02:00:28,600
Speaker 2: the fun of prank calling pre caller ID you remember

2530
02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:32,360
Speaker 2: those back? Yes, but there are still Bart Simpson type

2531
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 2: ways that you can pull it off. Let's watch.

2532
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:35,720
Speaker 1: I was just wondering if you can call for my

2533
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:40,880
Speaker 1: brother to meet me up here real quick. His last

2534
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:46,000
Speaker 1: name is Owners. First name is Gabe. Attention customers that

2535
02:00:46,200 --> 02:00:50,240
Speaker 1: meet your party, Gabe Owners Owners.

2536
02:00:57,400 --> 02:00:58,040
Speaker 3: I just choked on.

2537
02:01:01,160 --> 02:01:01,959
Speaker 1: Gay boners.

2538
02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:04,360
Speaker 2: Sorry, Luke, you know you try, you never know where

2539
02:01:04,360 --> 02:01:07,480
Speaker 2: it's gonna go. But hey, TikTok withdrawal was serious over

2540
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:11,040
Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours, right right, Luke, I guess,

2541
02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:14,440
Speaker 2: but then Trump saved the day. Let's hear this, gentleman, I.

2542
02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:17,480
Speaker 9: Don't give a fuck if TikTok's getting banned, millions of

2543
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:20,959
Speaker 9: Americans are sliding into some type of keetos. They don't understand.

2544
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:25,760
Speaker 9: I'm a professional quitter. I've called turkey heroin, oxy cotton, methadone.

2545
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:32,879
Speaker 9: This is just another day at the office for me. Mehterritic.

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Speaker 1: Don't be a pustle.

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Speaker 2: Look, that's that could end up being you if your

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Speaker 2: life goes in the wrong direction anything.

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Speaker 1: Why does he have two egg rolls on the ground.

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Speaker 1: That's the part I didn't get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he dropped a knee house, so I think that

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Speaker 2: was him eating Chinese food. And I didn't understand it either.

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Speaker 2: It's in his hands. Yeah, we got one more for you, Luke.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be careful moving couches.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's about to get it.

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Speaker 2: Bop uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hit him with the bop gun bop. Oh. And

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Speaker 1: I dubbed the Unforgiven Bitch.

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Speaker 2: That was an eclectic mix of my ish. I hope

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Speaker 2: you saw it.

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Speaker 1: That's a solid C minus. That was not your best

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Speaker 1: bet all right in the in the in the eighth throw.

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Speaker 2: It all looked great, though, I have to tell you

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Speaker 2: it was like whatever. A reminder today's episode of Morning

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Speaker 2: handsome I have been your host, Brian Campbell. Yeah all right,

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Speaker 2: Uh Luke Thomas, what do you have to say for

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Speaker 2: the people after two hours?

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Speaker 1: We love you, thank you for joining us. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back on. We'll get you ready for PFL, which has

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Speaker 1: a couple of good fights, maybe three good fights this weekend,

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Speaker 1: one really good fight this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Away fight Friday morning on ESPN. And don't oh, Darren

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Speaker 2: Hill knocked out Anthony Taylor last week, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think you cared. And isn't there another big fight this weekend?

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Speaker 1: BKFC? I think is this weekend?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Knucklemania this weekend, that's right, Yes, yes, so BKFD.

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Speaker 1: Is this weekend, and yeah it should be interesting.

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Speaker 2: All right. We'll get to all that ish on Friday,

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Speaker 2: Long Island. Luke of the main card minute anything else

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 1: No, no, nothing, really great show. That's it, all right,

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Speaker 1: Well somebody's that's.

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Speaker 2: About it, all right, take care of yourselves, guys, enjoy

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Speaker 2: the week and check out what we got going on

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Speaker 2: in our solo channels. But until then, we are out

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Speaker 2: of here.