WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Defensive Improvements?

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<v Speaker 1>The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys let go. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar

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<v Speaker 1>Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, October twenty of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, Season seventeen, episode number forty five. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the latest edition of The Break. I got Isaiah Stanback,

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<v Speaker 1>I got Jesse Holly, I got Amber Garcia with me.

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<v Speaker 1>It is day two of our mix up here, and

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<v Speaker 1>these guys, I think they learned a lot yesterday about

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<v Speaker 1>what it takes to make a really quality football podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>They I mean, I got a lot of tweets saying

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<v Speaker 1>how much better you guys have gotten in one show.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, by think by next week, we're gonna send

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<v Speaker 1>you back to your shows. And I expect some everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>I really do. That's called leadership. I'm just coaching you up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just cluching you up. All right, we got we

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot to talk about today. We're gonna continue

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<v Speaker 1>our big picture look at this team. Yesterday we talked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about the offense. Today we're gonna focus in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more on the defense, and we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>some some topics too on the overall team um as

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<v Speaker 1>well today. But today we gotta first start with some

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<v Speaker 1>news that came out yesterday, not the greatest news. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I want to bring it up because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one that, like a lot of times when it

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<v Speaker 1>starts getting into who got arrested in this kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, if it, if it affects the team and

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening on the field, then we'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>If not, I really don't care to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason why I want to talk about demonte

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<v Speaker 1>CAZy being arrested for a DWI, it's more from the

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint of you, two guys as former as fleets, both

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<v Speaker 1>played here at the Cowboys. My question for you, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think the general public, speaking for myself and probably

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of fans out there, you probably are like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know that to some degree, in the position

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<v Speaker 1>that you're in, you're probably a target to some degree,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna be looked at it with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of great things in your life comes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of responsibility. So you accept that as being

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<v Speaker 1>a professional athlete, you got a responsibility to live up

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<v Speaker 1>to that. Do you guys talk about or did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys talk about that kind of stuff in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>especially heading into a bye week, did you talk about, like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>let's stay out of trouble. Let's make sure we're not

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<v Speaker 1>putting ourselves in situations where we can end up being

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<v Speaker 1>a headline for the wrong reason. Yeah, I think. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a real brief conversation. I don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>locker rooms that you've been in Jesse, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a real brief conversation. It was more so, hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>protect the team, be smart, and that was it. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was pretty much extended a conversation. That's all that

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be said because you knew that you needed

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of your business. Go enjoy the off

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<v Speaker 1>week or you know, really just a couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>off really during or bye week. It's not a full

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<v Speaker 1>week off, but I go enjoy your a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days off, you know, have fun, but be smart, right,

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<v Speaker 1>stay off your legs, don't don't kill your legs, and

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<v Speaker 1>don't make bad decisions. And that's really it. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and let's pow wow. Hey, now, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you about to do? What am I about to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Just protect the team? Be smart. I brought show and

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<v Speaker 1>Tell today. Okay for this very reason. You didn't. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't plan this or we did anything like this. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can guarantee you the very last thing out of

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy's mouth at the end of the team meeting

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<v Speaker 1>whenever they broke was hey, guys, enjoy yourselves, take care

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<v Speaker 1>of one another, stay out of trouble. I know for

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<v Speaker 1>a fact. I know for a fact, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a zero I have a below zero tolerance for DUIs

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<v Speaker 1>or dwis or whatever you want to call them. And

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<v Speaker 1>here's why this Cowboys football team, we are not. People

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter drive me insane with the oh, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's just a d WI. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did we forget We're not too far removed from a

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<v Speaker 1>good friend of mine, Josh Britt, in a duy situation

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<v Speaker 1>where someone was killed. And it's always just a DWI

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<v Speaker 1>until it's not. And the reason why I have a

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<v Speaker 1>blow zero tolerance for dwise, we live in the era

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<v Speaker 1>now where there's left, there's uber right that those are

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<v Speaker 1>easy fixes. You know Brian Wansley, You know Brian Wansley,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I know Brian Wansman. Amazing human being. His

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<v Speaker 1>phone is always on at any point in time of

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<v Speaker 1>the day to call him if you need something. Every

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<v Speaker 1>NFL team in the country has a ride service. Every

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<v Speaker 1>NFL team has it. You call them, they come and

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<v Speaker 1>pick you up. Because it used to be the thing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>well I didn't want to leave him one hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dolls a car somewhere. I get it, I understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>They have it to where now they bring another driver

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<v Speaker 1>to bring your car home. Here is my my NFL

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<v Speaker 1>players cards, right, there's three of them. Okay, on the

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<v Speaker 1>back of everyone. This is my NFL player card. This

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<v Speaker 1>is my NFL player card. This is my NFL player card.

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<v Speaker 1>On the back of each one of these cards. What

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<v Speaker 1>does that say though it's crossed out, it says DUI

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<v Speaker 1>crossed out On every single one of these players cards.

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<v Speaker 1>It says d UI crossed out. There's a number that

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<v Speaker 1>you can call on these cards that'll have someone come

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<v Speaker 1>pick you up for free. No questions, ask, no no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no distance, no matter what that will come and

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<v Speaker 1>pick you up and bring you home. The NFL Players

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<v Speaker 1>Association has it, Every NFL team has it. Every person

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<v Speaker 1>on the every NFL team has a Brian Wansley. Pick

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<v Speaker 1>up the damn phone, pick up the phone and make

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<v Speaker 1>the phone call. But too far, too often we have

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<v Speaker 1>these superhuman thoughts in our feelings that you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I can make it, and you know what, nine times

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<v Speaker 1>out of ten sometimes you make it home. But what

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<v Speaker 1>happens that one time you don't make it? And now

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<v Speaker 1>someone's life, not only yours, but someone else's life can

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<v Speaker 1>be impacted. And that's where I have a below zero

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<v Speaker 1>tolerance for dwis because you have every not only do

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<v Speaker 1>you make a god awful amount of money you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do an old school yellow cab, but you have every

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity in the world to get home safely. When it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to this type of situation, I'm sorry. I have

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<v Speaker 1>zero tolerance for any body in general, but especially professional

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<v Speaker 1>athletes who get d wis. It is a necessary, it

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<v Speaker 1>is completely avoidable. In anyone who just says, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a d WI, it ain't that big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Shut up, shut up, because until you have been impacted

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<v Speaker 1>by someone in your family or you being impacted by

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<v Speaker 1>a drunk driver. Shut up. And for professional athletes, it

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<v Speaker 1>is far too easy to get home safely or plan

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<v Speaker 1>ahead or plan ahead, and for you not to do

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<v Speaker 1>so is reckless. It is careless, it is selfish, It

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<v Speaker 1>is unacceptable. And I have zero, below zero tolerance for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who gets you d d Wis and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to go search for these because I wanted people to

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<v Speaker 1>understand how easy it is make a phone call. You

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gotta leave your car nothing, ye, And I am,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I appreciate that and that that that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good word right there. But I think in addition

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<v Speaker 1>to that, I think the message here is whether you're

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<v Speaker 1>a professional athlete or not, this is a serious thing,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely like, this is a serious thing that not only,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, not only can impact your life, it

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<v Speaker 1>can impact your family's life and other people that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know. And so I think the message that

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<v Speaker 1>has to come from this is everyone should look at

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<v Speaker 1>this as a cautionary tale. If you didn't, if you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get the message back when that happened with Josh Brent,

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<v Speaker 1>then then you should, you know, you should just be

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention like this is something that affects a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people. So the message here is, don't take the chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't take the chance. Just go ahead if you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you've had a drink or two, Like I know

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<v Speaker 1>for me and my wife, but we've gotten a point

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<v Speaker 1>now we're like, if we're gonna have a drink or two,

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<v Speaker 1>we're ubering. We're just ubering. It's not even a question.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just ubering. And it's not even it's not even

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<v Speaker 1>a thought, it's not even a second thought. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>what we do. Because and I will I will say this,

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<v Speaker 1>that's also about perspective and wisdom that you get sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>from age. The older we've gotten, the more we realize,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a this isn't worth the chance because

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, you could probably have two drinks and

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<v Speaker 1>still be fine. For me, I'm just like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take the chance the chance, right, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>the message here for everybody is don't do that. If

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<v Speaker 1>you if you're gonna have drinks, just playing ahead, as

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah says, and just and be prepared for that so

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<v Speaker 1>you can do the right thing. And just getting a

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<v Speaker 1>ride home, all right. So here's what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna move on. We're gonna talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about this Cowboys team. Got some big picture questions, questions

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna hit here. I want to start first with

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive side of the ball, and particularly I want

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<v Speaker 1>to start with Michael Parsons, who coming into the year.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all after weeks one, two three, we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, man, this dude is freaking amazing. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think over the last few weeks, not that he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been still playing at a high level, but some of

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<v Speaker 1>that talk has kind of come back. My question becomes

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<v Speaker 1>to you, guys, is where do you think he has

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<v Speaker 1>a greater impact at linebacker or defensive end? Linebacker, linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>all day long? The reason being, yes, people like to

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<v Speaker 1>see the flash, people like to see the first round

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<v Speaker 1>or get shown off right because he's a nice little

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<v Speaker 1>little little, nice little ornament that's all nice and brand

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<v Speaker 1>new and shiny. But the reality is when he's at

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<v Speaker 1>even though he's effective, he's effective anywhere you can put

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<v Speaker 1>the man at cornerback, he's gonna be effective. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>he's effective at the defensive in position. What happened to

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<v Speaker 1>a snap count? All right? He went with thirty eight snaps.

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<v Speaker 1>I think thirty five thirty eight snaps. I think for

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<v Speaker 1>those two games he was playing primarily defensive end, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>But what happened when he goes a linebacker sixty five snaps? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're taking somebody's ability. Yeah, they can impact the

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<v Speaker 1>game maybe two maybe three out of those thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>snaps right when he's playing defensive end, But you're also

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<v Speaker 1>subjecting him to getting chipped. What happened in the last

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<v Speaker 1>time he played DN, he got his ribs hit. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't been at that defense end position too much

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<v Speaker 1>since then, Right, So you're you're you're putting him up.

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<v Speaker 1>You're putting him in a position where they know where

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<v Speaker 1>he's at, we can get to you. Right, you're playing Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>You're going against one of our heaviest, more's, most biggest

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<v Speaker 1>athletic guys on the team. And oh, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I can send a running back out to take a

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<v Speaker 1>shot on your ribs on the way out. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>you're that's one thing that you do when you put

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<v Speaker 1>him at defensive end, when you put him at linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>not only do you increase his snap counts by him

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<v Speaker 1>being on the field more, he can affect the game more.

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<v Speaker 1>He can also rush, he can drive back in coverage,

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<v Speaker 1>he could play guys man man of running backs out

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<v Speaker 1>of the backfield. So he can do a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple facet from the middle of the field that he

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<v Speaker 1>can't do from the dfenc end position. And just even

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<v Speaker 1>if you just looked at it, just basically off a

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<v Speaker 1>snap counts, you want you're one of your most dominant

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<v Speaker 1>guys to be on the field as much as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I one hundred percent agree with everything that he has said.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that I would add, aside from him

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<v Speaker 1>playing defensive end, I think that absolutely limits him and

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<v Speaker 1>what he can do on the field. Like everything he

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<v Speaker 1>just said, but also looking at position wise, that's an

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<v Speaker 1>area where last year when I would watch film and

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<v Speaker 1>you know Dayalen is no longer here and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was an area that the Cowboys were struggling

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<v Speaker 1>at linebacker. And I know Layton Vanderah he has skills

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, but sometimes he misses and so he needs

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<v Speaker 1>to help. So the Cowboys do need a player with

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<v Speaker 1>his set of skills to be right there at linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>and do everything that he had. It just it's so

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<v Speaker 1>impressive to me honestly. And he's very freshing to see

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<v Speaker 1>a player like that come in right off the bat

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<v Speaker 1>and show even when training camp, I mean rookie minicamp

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<v Speaker 1>and all that was starting, I was still here and

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<v Speaker 1>watching all that, everything that he was showing. It's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>where can I have a player position that he can

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<v Speaker 1>do the best that he can and use every single

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<v Speaker 1>talent that he has. So for sure, linebacker, defensive end,

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<v Speaker 1>like he said, you can mix it in and he

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<v Speaker 1>can still rush and be effective, but he doesn't need

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<v Speaker 1>to be stuck at a single position. Yeah, a linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>he becomes any racer for this football team. He's able

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<v Speaker 1>to do so many different things in the In the

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<v Speaker 1>way that this league is evolving, you have running backs

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<v Speaker 1>to a more versatile now. Right For every Derrick Henry

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to worry about in the league, you

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<v Speaker 1>have more of the Dalvin Cook type or the Gibson

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<v Speaker 1>types or the Kamara types that that this league has

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<v Speaker 1>evolved too. And Micah, he gives you the ability, like

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah was saying, to play coverage. He gives you the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to uh play in between um uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>behind the behind the tackles and guards at the linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>spot play tight end. So the versatility uh that he

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<v Speaker 1>has at linebacker, you don't have that at at defensive end.

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<v Speaker 1>And this Cowboys team. And when you go back and

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<v Speaker 1>you watch the film earlier in the year when he

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<v Speaker 1>had most of his success, he was playing backup offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>He was playing against backup offensive lineman. So when he

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<v Speaker 1>was rushing, he was playing against the number two guys,

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<v Speaker 1>which when against the Chargers, they put him against the

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<v Speaker 1>number one and they said was like, yeah, hey them go.

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<v Speaker 1>Because at the end of the day, your more experienced

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<v Speaker 1>offensive tackles have seen all of the moves he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>developed and he had so all he has a speed

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<v Speaker 1>power And if for experience offen tackles says speeding power, please,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Come on, I'll take that all day. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to deal with speed, power, spin, shift,

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<v Speaker 1>hands and all that out of stuff. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>a linebacker his versatility just shines more and it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you just a plethora of thing that you can do

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<v Speaker 1>with him there, and he becomes ultimately your racer in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the football field. All right, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little about free agent signings. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about Demonte Casey, Jyron, curse Keyan O'Neill,

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<v Speaker 1>who's been the best free agent signing on the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball for the Cowboys so far this season.

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking some Cowboys football here with you, guys, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the free agent signings. There were three specific

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<v Speaker 1>defensive free agent signings that I wanted to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, you guys can throw in another

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<v Speaker 1>name if you think there's another name that should fit

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<v Speaker 1>on this list. But what I wanted to find out

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<v Speaker 1>is who do you think was the best free agent

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<v Speaker 1>signing on the defensive side of the ball? Kzy Um

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<v Speaker 1>Curse or Neil dan Quinn wasn't on the list. But

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<v Speaker 1>none of those guys are here. Dan Quinn's not here

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<v Speaker 1>right good like he is and by the way, he

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<v Speaker 1>makes them look probably better than they would look otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>You got those three guys combined for a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Like think about that. Like we have been clamoring and

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<v Speaker 1>begging and pleading for better safety play for the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>since Ken Hamlin. Ye back when I was here. We

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<v Speaker 1>were here two thousand and seven and eight shot um

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<v Speaker 1>and dan Quinn comes in and he finds three guys,

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<v Speaker 1>brings him in, fits him into the scheme that he wants,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're thriving. And when you look at it, you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we did all of this for a million dollars. Like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that is the equivalent of value when you could get

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<v Speaker 1>players to play at this productive level at that less

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<v Speaker 1>of a price. That is bargain shopping at its best.

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<v Speaker 1>That is thrift shopping. You going to the thrift store

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<v Speaker 1>and you found something of value that no one else

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<v Speaker 1>thought would be of value. And so yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>for me to add the name to the list to

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<v Speaker 1>it's dan Quinn, It's dan Quinn because we have been

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<v Speaker 1>looking for something of this type of caliber and not

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<v Speaker 1>only did we found one, we found three guys that

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<v Speaker 1>now we're looking at saying, you know, well, how do

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<v Speaker 1>we play them all? Look at this rotation we got.

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<v Speaker 1>We got these guys all playing at a at a

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they're all playing at Pro Bowl level,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't worry as much about the back end

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<v Speaker 1>of this football team as we had in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, the culprit behind that is dan Quinn

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<v Speaker 1>coming in, seeing the vision, seeing those guys believing to

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<v Speaker 1>get trusting it, bringing them in, giving them instruction and

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<v Speaker 1>it worked, it flourishing and burd isaiah'na, I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>y'all get give me a players. But I'm that's the

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<v Speaker 1>right answer to the right It probably the easiest answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think I'll give me a play. No, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going with curse. I'm going with curse Um. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only because he's been on the field the most really

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<v Speaker 1>between him and Casey, but I feel like he's had

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest impact. I feel like the position that he

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<v Speaker 1>plays in the responsibility that he has to cover some

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest, most athletic guys on the field, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's pretty much taking them out. We haven't had any

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends go ham on us this year at all. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>That's primarily because of him. The reason why this big

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<v Speaker 1>nickel personnel has come about because of him, Um, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the versatility that he gives us to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to not only cover in the box, but also

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<v Speaker 1>be able to cover from the top down has been

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<v Speaker 1>huge it's been huge. He's a large human being, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't make him like that. He's only handful of

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<v Speaker 1>dudes that are made that size. Right. You started hearing

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<v Speaker 1>they've owner Sean Taylor, you know, just recently you got

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Chancellor and you got you know, Curse. Yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are six four two twenty plus. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not that many of them. So the athleticism that

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<v Speaker 1>he provides with the freaking physical attributes he has is amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just provides a lot of options for dan

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn and his whole defense. Well, I mean, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy that has the most debts right now out of

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<v Speaker 1>the players. But and I know you want a player,

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<v Speaker 1>but I haven't been. I mean I've been watching the games,

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<v Speaker 1>but not in like full on details how I usually do.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's hard to answer. But going back to sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going back to dan Quinn. The thing that's impressive

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<v Speaker 1>to me is that these guys, this free agent guy,

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't anyone that was that. I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, wow, yes, the Cowboys got this guy to

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<v Speaker 1>play safety. It wasn't anything like that. It was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys have some experience. All right, well, bring him in,

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<v Speaker 1>can't hurt, but man, we still need to address that position.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's wait until the draft. Than it wasn't so it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't like something that we were for sure comfortable with.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, that's the impressive part having and we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it even last year, having so many new players,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a while to get them playing well together,

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<v Speaker 1>the chemistry put in the defense. We know very well

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<v Speaker 1>how they struggled last year and they're so much confusion

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<v Speaker 1>and everything, and even though these were veteran guys, it

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<v Speaker 1>was still something that you know, the fact that they're

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<v Speaker 1>playing that the way the way they are playing and

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<v Speaker 1>not just in that area of the field, but also

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<v Speaker 1>also a cornerback. And then you talked about the defensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>which yes, they can be doing more, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>as a whole everything that dan Quinn has been able

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<v Speaker 1>to do with everyone and the fact that we're not

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<v Speaker 1>like saying, man, the safety position is absolutely killing us

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It's it's just very impressive and there's no

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<v Speaker 1>one really stands out to me, so they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of right there, but the fact that it's working,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's what's great, right now, All right, well, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the next question. How can Dallas best improve its interior

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<v Speaker 1>run defense? And I'll give you two options. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>feel free to throw in something else if you think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a better answer here. But I said at the

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<v Speaker 1>return of gallimourn Hill that could be one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>could help. The other one was better played by the linebackers,

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<v Speaker 1>because I do think in this last game, specifically, especially

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<v Speaker 1>early in the game, I saw a number of times

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<v Speaker 1>where the holes that were created the linebackers just it

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<v Speaker 1>was what we saw all last year from the linebackers. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you take a false step and then you're out of position,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get off a block hole, and there you go,

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then the run turns into something where

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<v Speaker 1>the running back is now on your safety before you

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<v Speaker 1>know it. So I do think that there's probably a

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<v Speaker 1>little chance that the linebackers could play better here and

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<v Speaker 1>help your run defense. What do you guys think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to improve the interior run defense. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>guys just have to play better. I mean, really, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not I don't think it's necessarily a scheme thing. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what linebacker you got, you can put trigging

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<v Speaker 1>bray Ray back there and anybody else. Bart's got anybody

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<v Speaker 1>else you want to put it in the middle. If

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive linemen get up to the second level, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a wrap. Yeah. They're just bigger, larger, stronger humans. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's just what it is. It's kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Brother company just grabbing you, throwing you somewhere. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't do anything about it, no matter how much you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid. But the interior defensive linemen just have to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to play better. And obviously what do you do there? Though?

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<v Speaker 1>Because right now defensive tackle, we knew going into the

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 1>seasoned defensive tackles an area that they probably could use

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 1>some improvement. Um, I think they've had some play, Carlos Watkins,

0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:13.880
<v Speaker 1>I think is played pretty well. Yea, all things considered,

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Bohan's a young guy, he's a big guy.

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:18.480
<v Speaker 1>But what do you think, just from a standpoint of

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 1>the defensive tackles and their play, where can they be

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 1>better there? I mean leverage? Right? Um? Leverage playing you know,

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.280
<v Speaker 1>playing half a man, trying not to get let these

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.920
<v Speaker 1>guys reach you. Um, that's I guess, you know, playing

0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:30.920
<v Speaker 1>playing your gaps. But we don't know the schemes that

0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>they're playing, right, so I'm up speaking just in general terms. Um,

0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what their assignments are, but just trying

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:37.359
<v Speaker 1>to be more stout right and just trying not to

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>get moved off the ball. There's a lot of different

0:23:38.800 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 1>techniques those guys can can utilize to not get moved

0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 1>back to the second level. But at the end of

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the day, we're missing our big boys. That's that's the

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>real We're missing our big boys upfront. Our heavy hitters

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>are not there right now. We have explosive guys, we

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.520
<v Speaker 1>have guys that can get some penetration, but when they

0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:56.120
<v Speaker 1>actually want to come off to these other teams want

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>to come off the ball and set their mind on

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.399
<v Speaker 1>running at us as a struggle. When you play teams

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 1>like like like New England, you know it's gonna be

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a struggle. When we play teams like like Minnesota, you know,

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>as you look forward to the schedule, then you got

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos and Falcons. There's some teams that we're not

0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>going to worry about that being a predominant part of

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 1>their game. But when you have teams that are built

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.479
<v Speaker 1>like the Patriots, Yeah, until you get your your your

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 1>your your meat upfront, it's gonna be a struggle. Well, Jesse,

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll ask you this question. Can you fix that problem?

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Because even the guys you're asking that you're going to

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:25.639
<v Speaker 1>be expecting to return, they're not your big traditional one techniques,

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Like you don't have one of those. Are you going

0:24:27.480 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>to improve this without having to go outside the organization?

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 1>By the way doing that like who knows what's on

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:35.159
<v Speaker 1>the street at this point, But can you really improve

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that because you're not gonna get much bigger. Yeah, and

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>that's the that's the difficult part. And you know, to

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.680
<v Speaker 1>use a term that that my guy, big Nate Newton

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:47.600
<v Speaker 1>always uses is big greasies. And you want you want

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 1>to get big greasies in that middle, not necessarily to

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 1>be game changing playmakers, just to eat up blocks. I

0:24:56.280 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>just need you to commit two guys to me every

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 1>single time, or have to have that second guy stay

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 1>on me a little bit longer before he passes me

0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 1>off to go to the second level to get to

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the linebacker. Because when you talk about football being a

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>game of inches, it is literally a game of inches.

0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>A linebacker, you take one false step the wrong way,

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>that guard's up on you and now he has an

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>angle or if you're not getting him off from just

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:24.800
<v Speaker 1>like we say you're not, you're not getting off of them,

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 1>like yeah, he is. He is paid to grab you

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 1>and moll you and like a pit pit yeah and

0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah and it and the same thing when it comes

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 1>to the big guys up front is if I have

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to make that guard stay on me just a tad

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>bit longer. Now my linebacker has read his keys and

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 1>is attacking. And if I'm attacking and you're still engaged,

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I win. And and some I mean, some of the

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 1>greatest linebackers of our time had what great defensive big

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>big And that's that's the only thing. And and and

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 1>what you can hope for is when you get a

0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 1>guy's like Neville Gallimore company back, is that your rotation

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:09.400
<v Speaker 1>becomes better. Guys become fresher, stay fresher longer throughout the game,

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and you have more wins than you do losses up front.

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 1>But there's nothing you can do at this point in time.

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Never got them more. Ain't getting twenty more pounds in

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the season, right Carter's Walkers ain't getting

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>fifteen twenty more pounds in the middle of the season.

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:29.000
<v Speaker 1>Some people maintaining you maintain. Yeah, you're trying to hold

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.359
<v Speaker 1>on or whatever weight that you have right now to

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 1>maintain throughout the throughout this year. So it's it's given

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>what you got and hope for the It's really hope

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 1>for the best. It's given what you got and hope

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>for the best. And hopefully you don't run into many

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.000
<v Speaker 1>teams like New England like that, and and the and

0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the and the reality of it is you aren't. That's

0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:51.959
<v Speaker 1>the reality of it. You are. Are they that much

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>different from a personnel stand point or was it more scheme? Yes,

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>personnel standpoint, it's both. I think he's having to skin

0:26:57.600 --> 0:26:59.359
<v Speaker 1>the scheme for sure. I mean that's every coach, right.

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.160
<v Speaker 1>But when you look at somehow how these teams are built.

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's look at our schedule coming up here. We got

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the Vikings. They're going to run and crap out the ball. Yeah,

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 1>so we better are they, because that's that's one thing

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I heard about New England. I'm not sure, but supposedly

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>their offensive line was bigger. Yes, And so are you

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna face that similar type of big offensive line against

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota against other teams down and so I'm talking about it.

0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:21.479
<v Speaker 1>It's it's all about it. So to your point, right,

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it's a scheme as well. Bro scheme not only just

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>translates just from what the coach is saying to facilitate

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:28.600
<v Speaker 1>on the field. It goes back to the weight room, right,

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.680
<v Speaker 1>How how is your team built? Right? When I when

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>I was when I was here in Dallas, we lifted right,

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 1>but we lifted for explosion. When I went to New England,

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, we lifted like it was offseason, like big

0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:42.199
<v Speaker 1>boy heavyweight, throughout the whole season. Why because that's how

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that's the type of team we wanted to have. We

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 1>wanted to wear you down. When I went to Seattle,

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>guess what it was all about, moving lightweight and moving

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 1>it fast, right, just being fast, being fast. So that

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.359
<v Speaker 1>the scheme right, and how they want their team to

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the identity of their team, That's how everything's gonna translate.

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.439
<v Speaker 1>That's how your dietitian's gonna make your food, That's how

0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>your weight room's gonna do. All it goes. It goes

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>all the way back to that in terms of how

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>they want to approach this thing. So there's gonna be

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>games where you face teams that are built to have

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>the advantage against you, and you got to find ways

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to make plays. Um, you know. But as we look forward,

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>we're not going to worry about that. How we are

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.199
<v Speaker 1>in terms of speed and being an explosive, that's going

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>to work to our advantage. But the majority of our

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>opponents we have remaining on our schedule, Yeah, they must

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:25.719
<v Speaker 1>be on that fast thinking out program because I am

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>most of these guys, like, I never really see them

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>putting on weight, like usually they start, yeah, muscle wise,

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 1>they'll start building muscle, but then trimming down. Like even

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>with Tristan Hill, you know, he came in, you could

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>see him a little weight and then he starts trimming down.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>So that's something I never even thought about. But I

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>have noticed physically, you know, physical wise, Yeah, I think

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>this year especially, we talked about this on the break.

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>This year especially, you saw a lot of guys coming

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>back a lot leaner than they've been before. And I

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that was what Harold Nash was trying

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to do with this team or those guys just specifically

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>we're working with our own trainers to do it, but

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>you definitely saw a difference in guys like Zeke and

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Dak like they came back much leaner than they've been

0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>in the past. It wasn't the big bulky, it was

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the league fast, very explosive, is what it looked like

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>they were trying to achieve. And what most coaches will

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 1>tell you as you begin to age in this league,

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>you want to get light, right, you want to shed

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>some of those pounds because it's a lot of harder

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to do that than trust me. I know, I trust

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 1>me where we fight, we fight the battle every day. Um.

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>But but also your body doesn't recovers faster. Yeah, you

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 1>know you want to have that. You don't want to

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 1>have to carry those extra pounds. And again, look at

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the way this league is going, Um, you're you're gonna

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>need more explosion. You're gonna need more versatility, more athleticism.

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not the nineties Cowboys where Nates three hundred

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and forty pounds because he's going up against another guy

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>who's three hundred twenty pounds and it's just just mauling

0:29:56.320 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>big group type things. It is speed, more speed, and

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>more speed. Like when you look at the combine numbers

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>we used to we used to be like he ran

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>a four three, Yeah, what what what now It's like, dudes, Now,

0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh yeah, Michael Partson ran a four

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>three at two hundred and forty some pounds, fifty some

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>pounds like I'm in at three hundred pounds of running

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 1>five four seven four eight, You're like, wait what that

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 1>was unheard of fifteen years ago. Now it's almost a norm.

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 1>And so the only way that you can you can

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>keep up with that kind of speed. Have you run

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>a four four? Just go, just go. It's in the

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>corner like like I remember throwing up and it was

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>like that was like the number. Oh you gotta run

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>a full four like that was the pinnacle of speed.

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Now it was like you run a full four as

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>a receiver, it's like okay, like that ain't nothing special,

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, that that dude average who's forty pounds heavery

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>than you, Yeah he runs he runs a four to

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>five nine Like you know, a four four nine. You'd

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>be like, dang, I'm two fifteen, you know, two eighty five.

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>But doesn't even get tricky once you start mixing that. Okay,

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm intally of being faster and lighter with inexperience and

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>younger guys, you know, when they come in. I feel

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that it's it's a tough balance there because they don't

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>have the experience, not necessarily the full on technique that

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>they need that maybe having that extra weight kind of balance,

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I think there's also a

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>difference between weight and strength. Like I don't want to

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>confuse weight and strength, because I do think what happens

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and you see it all the time with guys going

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>from their first year to the second year, Like you

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>can see the difference, and they grow into their bodies

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and you could, yeah, you could tell that it's starting

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to get to that point where they're stronger. They might

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 1>be lean, but they're very, very strong. And I think

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the difference here is not necessarily weight,

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>but but strength. No, I mean, that's that's a huge

0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought that up. I can give you

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 1>guys an example when I've finishing up my career. I

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>went to Jacksonville as a tight end and it was

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Mercedes Lewis and myself. No one asked me why how

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I got to tight end, but I was that's kind

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of like the Hernandez era, right when it's like, you know,

0:31:56.800 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>the two hundred forty two forty five pound tight end

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>that could run and create mismatches against guys like Curse.

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>So that was Mercedes. Lewis was the underlying guy. I

0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>was kind of the wing back. He's one of the

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>league's best blocking tight end even probably to this day.

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Still he's amazing. You're still team He's ridiculous, right, But

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 1>he knew leverage, he knew how to use his length

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and all those all his limbs to create movement. I

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 1>was strong. I was stronger than he was in the

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>weight room, right, And he would get frustrated with me

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>because when I got on the field, I couldn't block

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>these big dudes. While I was two hundred forty pounds,

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>these are three hundred pounds, right. So I was strong, right,

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't have enough none, enough junk in the

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>truth right, So to that point, you could be a

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>strong man, you're stronger. I've seen you go ahead though

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't because I'm strong and weight room strong. But

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>these boys are these are grown human beings, grown man

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>strength right and there, and so to your point, right,

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>it can be a disadvantage. But when your whole entire

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>program is built off of it, and then you have

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>these offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators, you know, special team's corners

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>come in and put you in position to be successful

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>based upon your skill sets. Now, all of a sudden,

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that becomes an advantage. Now if they ask these guys

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to come in and play something and be something that

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>they're not. Right. Two hundred and forty pound guy trying

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>to go up there against two hundred and eighty five pounds,

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 1>that's not that's just not. That's not gonna work. It's

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>not gonna work. So we start talking about why it

0:33:10.480 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 1>was New England so successful on the ground, Well, they're

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>big upfront, and then oh, by the way, then they

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<v Speaker 1>have they have four tight ends that are active every game.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there they put three of them out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's two of the best tight ends that happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the league as of last year. And that's

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>they're getting paid forty million, fifty million dollars for it. Yeah,

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>that's why they were able to move us off the

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<v Speaker 1>ball because they had two hundred and sixty pounds coming

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<v Speaker 1>up and moving two hundred and thirty two hundred and

0:33:29.840 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>forty pounds off the line. So that's I mean, that's

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>that's how this league works. It's all about mismatches. I

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it yesterday. Every team's not built the same, every

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>team's not built the same. That's why we needed to

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<v Speaker 1>get up on New England because they can't catch up

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<v Speaker 1>right once they're up right. The reason why we didn't

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>want the game to be closest because if it is close,

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>and guess what New England could play New England ball

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>right now? They can just run you down down the

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<v Speaker 1>fieldgate chunky, Okay, who's gonna be chunky? Heavy player here?

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>And then we got the strong, which job one. So

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you create that balance, you hit that will to play right,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go sometime. Can you give us some chucky? All right,

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.239
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take our final break. We're gonna come back

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<v Speaker 1>ask him, what's the biggest problem that you think would

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>most concerned. You're going down on the stretch and here

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>are the options I'm gonna give coaching decisions kicker run

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.399
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<v Speaker 1>Here's my question for you guys, and I'm hopeful that

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<v Speaker 1>this question is going to bring a very thoughtful answer

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:39.400
<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of things here that I think

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<v Speaker 1>people are talking about as potential gotchas as you go

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<v Speaker 1>down the stretch. The question is what is the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>problem that concerns you? In this second segment of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>we heart coach talking about it. They broke it into

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>three segments. You got six, six and then five games.

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>In this second segment, would it be coaching decisions, would

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.400
<v Speaker 1>it be the kicker, Would it be run defense? Or

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>would it be red zone offense? Can I throw another

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>one in there? Sure? Absolutely, I think I might. I

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I said this are on a talking Cowboys,

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 1>But my concern is that when our guys come back,

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:18.399
<v Speaker 1>our guys gallup more Law, the injured guys, right, d Law,

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>gallop right, all these got our guys, right, the guys

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that we expect to go out there and make big

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 1>plays for us. Do our current guys that are out

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.239
<v Speaker 1>there doing well for us, do they do they back down?

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Do they go into the corner? Because we've all seen

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>those guys right when you're when you're considered to be

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 1>when you're number two when they call you up the

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:34.879
<v Speaker 1>number one and number one's out for a while. Okay,

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.400
<v Speaker 1>here we go, let's rock, right, let's go. I'm me again, right,

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do it from college, or to do from

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:40.879
<v Speaker 1>earlier in my career. Let's ball, right, and the cats

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>out there trying me, and then they become ballers again, right,

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and everybody's like, you know, to your point, Oh my god,

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that these guys get playing. I know

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>these guys can ball, they just have been subjected to

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>being a second tier guy. What happens when they're when

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the dogs come back, when the number ones come back

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:58.479
<v Speaker 1>and they get their thrown back. I've seen it two ways.

0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I've seen it where guys that remain competitive and they

0:38:01.080 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>pushed their starters and they make them create a rotation

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:05.840
<v Speaker 1>like we're talking about. Or I've seen guys kind of

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>back down to kind of what you expected him to

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>be in the first place, which is kind of just ah,

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:13.239
<v Speaker 1>he he's inconsistent, right, What players would concern you most

0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>because immediately when I started thinking about that, I'm like

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:18.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these guys, they've already been in rotations

0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>even before those guys out, So it doesn't necessarily I

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think it would have. Like think about a Cedric Wilson.

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 1>This shouldn't affect him much because he's been used to

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 1>playing in a position where he's rotating osa defensive tackle.

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 1>They put, they rotate, Like, what are the positions or

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 1>players that you would be more for. I'm thinking about

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>cornerback Kelvin Joseph hasn't touched the field. Yeah right, I'm

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 1>thinking about I'm thinking about cornerback position. I'm thinking about

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Enough Brown and Jay Lou What are they gonna do? Right?

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 1>A Brown got himself a pick so far, but you know,

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:45.479
<v Speaker 1>is he gonna is he gonna be a starter still,

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Joseph's not ready though, I'm just I'm just saying. I'm

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>just saying. I mean, I haven't talked to you about that. Yeah, yeah,

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>it is Joseph Ray. I don't think I don't. I

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:54.399
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's ready either, But I mean, we don't

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.560
<v Speaker 1>make those decisions up there either. You know, they took

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>they took him pretty high, so he gonna play. He

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna so it does matter is he is he gonna

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>replace those those five million dollar guys. They're both getting

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>pay five Millie. You know so, I mean that's a

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>question that you that you have to ask. You know,

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>what happens there? What happens that the D line position happens?

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 1>D line has a heck of a rotation going right now,

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, you bring Hell back, you bring

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Gallimore back, you bring d Law back. Those are three

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>bona fide starters. What happens to that rotation? Now? Yeah,

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>I think we're different. I think we're different. Where in

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:28.600
<v Speaker 1>past times it would have been oh yeah, he comes back,

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>he has to play, or we drafted him high, he

0:39:31.920 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>has to play. I think we're different. I think this

0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>coaching staff, specifically on defense, I think we're different. I

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.839
<v Speaker 1>think it's you know what, Son, Yes, we drafted you high,

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>but right now we roll them and maybe we'll get you,

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll fit you in there, you know, but you

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 1>haven't done anything that says you deserve that position. And

0:39:54.040 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 1>I get your draft at us and maybe, well we'll

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 1>attack this full goal next year and OTAs and mini

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 1>camps and so on. The so fourth, I think in

0:40:01.440 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>years past we would have been subjected to up. We

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>drafted him eye, we gotta play him, no matter what.

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I personally just feel like it's different. And I think

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:14.840
<v Speaker 1>that so you think, do you think the culture in

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the in the front office has changed as well. I

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>think that the guys who are putting these players on

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:24.839
<v Speaker 1>the field, the coaches and such, have earned enough say

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:27.440
<v Speaker 1>so with the way that things have gone this year,

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.760
<v Speaker 1>for whether it be one of the Joneses or someone

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 1>that he'll go just trust me on this one, like

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>like let let like I know that we drafted him

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>in the second round and I get it, and he'll

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>he'll be fine, and we'll get him right and we'll

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.719
<v Speaker 1>get him to a position where he's playing at a

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 1>very high level. This is not feed but we're not

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:46.640
<v Speaker 1>right now. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying. And

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>and we'll we'll we'll work our way back in there,

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 1>and we're working in there. We'll find spots for him

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to get him some confidence, to get him some playing time.

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like this is just a different set

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>of circumstances and a different set of dudes who are

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>who are called the shots, and you know, I hope

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>they have that power and on the and on the

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>same the same respect, I think I think dan Quinn

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>has done a great job with and can have and

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you know this, I said, there are certain coaches who

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>can come to you and have that man to man

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:24.720
<v Speaker 1>conversation and you respect those guys like I've always respected coaches.

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Just told me straight off, like don't don't we're too

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>old fall that well, you know, just keep chipping away.

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think Dan Quinn is that kind of

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:35.879
<v Speaker 1>a guy. He's a Jersey dude. I'm a Jersey dude

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like we are. We are straight up dudes. And I

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>think he has the conversation when you come in and say, listen, son,

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. Okay, you're a part of this football team,

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 1>but right now we're going this and here's why we

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:49.879
<v Speaker 1>still want you to be engaged, you know. And once

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you have that real conversation man to man, I think

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>many men accept that better and you'll get the same productivity.

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 1>And Quinn will tell you like, hey, this doesn't mean

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>stop competing, This doesn't mean we can't we can't use you,

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>we don't need you, probably saying your expectations. Right, Hey,

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 1>go out there every single day, every single practice and

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:13.399
<v Speaker 1>worked like you want to be the starter, or worked

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>like you were before this guy, you know, came back

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 1>from injury, and I think when you do that, you

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.359
<v Speaker 1>get guys to respect you more, and you get guys

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 1>to go out there and give you a great How

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>do you go about practice though, during the week when

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>a guy like that comes back, for example, a veteran

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 1>guy gets back ken, do you give them half the reps?

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about it from the standpoint of Donovan Wilson,

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Like he's trying to come back in and Jayron Curse

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 1>has been playing his button. So what happens in that situation?

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 1>What happens for Donovan? What happens for jay Ron? Like

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 1>that's the question, right, Yeah, I don't know. I mean,

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I've never really been in those conversations, but I don't

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and we only get to see a portion of practice,

0:42:55.680 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 1>so I don't really know how they go about distributing

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>in a scenario like is where these guys on the

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>field are playing well and now you got these other

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>veteran guys that you have been expecting them to be

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the starters come back in. I don't know how most

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 1>teams is not this competitive, So it's this difficult when

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>it's this competitive. When it's this competitive is very differently deep,

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Like this is a deep team. Relative to other teams

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>in there. And it's a good problem, it's a great

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.320
<v Speaker 1>problem to have. And again, you you divvy those reps

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 1>up and practice, you're saying, you know, you can say, hey,

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>all right, listen, jay Ron, when we go team seven

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 1>on seven, you're in uh uh de Wilson, when we

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>go you know this team period, you're in. And then

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<v Speaker 1>now you just kind of gauge it throughout the week

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<v Speaker 1>about giving both of these guys reps and and this

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<v Speaker 1>is what they pay the coaches the big bucks for this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is a good problem to have, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is your problem to figure out, and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>always going to be an easy situation. And then it

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to at the end of the day, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel most comfortable with? Because when you're when

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go to a game and coach, the

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<v Speaker 1>last thing you want to go into a game doing

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<v Speaker 1>is having uncertainty, because if you have uncertainty, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way you're calling a definitive football game. So most coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>once they get to that threshold of Thursday is Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>most definitely Saturday, here's what we're doing. I'm going here

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<v Speaker 1>until something changes, and then next week we'll try it again,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when I get to that Friday, that Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>is Friday, most definitely Saturday. We're going here because my

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<v Speaker 1>team and I need to know as a coach how

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to call this football game when we go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and injuries happen and things happen, and to

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah's point, matchups, they may come a time when you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Donovan is a much better fit for

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<v Speaker 1>this matchup or this scheme that we're going this week

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<v Speaker 1>than jay Ron. Jay Ron is a much better fit

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<v Speaker 1>because we're playing a taller tight end, or they may

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<v Speaker 1>have whatever it may be. So to have those options

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<v Speaker 1>is a great thing. But that's why they played the

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<v Speaker 1>coach the big bucks. Yeah, I can tell you I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at these these snap as we're talking about matchups.

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<v Speaker 1>J Ron week one sixty two percent of the snaps

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<v Speaker 1>Week two ninety seven percent, per week four ninety seven percent,

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<v Speaker 1>and then one hundred percent for five and six. Yep. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably by the way he's making the most of

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<v Speaker 1>those reps. He is balling out. And to answer your

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<v Speaker 1>question that you previously stated, it's a red zone, it's

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<v Speaker 1>red zone because that has not only been one. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to score in this league, and I've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>almost unless there's an injury to Dak Prescott that prolongs

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<v Speaker 1>him from coming back on the football field. I pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much summed up this regular season, We're gonna win a division.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing in this division said that we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to sweep this division. It maybe lose one game, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna win a division. I start looking at playoffs. You

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<v Speaker 1>play Arizona, Arizona, you better score touchdowns. You play Green Bay,

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>You're better score touchdowns. You play Tampa, you're better score touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you play anybody in the NFC. Ye the

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<v Speaker 1>best school touchdowns in the playoffs. And one of the

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<v Speaker 1>problem that the Cowboys has had years and years and

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<v Speaker 1>years and years has been red zone offense. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's always going to be a concern for me.

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<v Speaker 1>They were doing better earlier this year with the red

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<v Speaker 1>zone situation. They kind of fell back a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>with that. And say what you want about the calls

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<v Speaker 1>in the red zone, whatever, you know, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be so important. We cannot we cannot kick

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<v Speaker 1>field goals when you're talking about playing the really good

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>football teams you'll get away within the regular season, get away.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll get away when to get the Giants in Washington

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<v Speaker 1>and Philadelphia and you know teams like that. You ain't

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<v Speaker 1>getting away with that. Against Tampa back, you ain't getting

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<v Speaker 1>away with that. Against the Ramp, you ain't getting away again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, even even sometimes against you know, a team

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<v Speaker 1>like New Orleans. You never know what. You never know

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 1>what jamis you might get. You might get bove touchdowns, right, Minnesota,

0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:48.760
<v Speaker 1>you never know, right, you might get eating w Jamis.

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:52.560
<v Speaker 1>You might get twelve, you might get twelve new Kirk Cousins. Right,

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you might not get nighttime Kirk Cousins. You might get

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<v Speaker 1>twelve new Kirk Cousins. So always getting in the red

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<v Speaker 1>zone and being able to come away with touchdowns rather

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<v Speaker 1>than field goals. All right, folks, that's a rap, real quick.

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Tell us where when we can hear you guys? Aah

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 1>working fans here? Oh yeah, yeah yeah talking cowboys. Man,

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>You guys know what it is. Okay, nine o'clock every day,

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Monday through Friday. We're the first show because we're the

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 1>best show. We know you guys, when you guys wake up,

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>get your cup of joe. You want to come out

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 1>here and get the real come out here and make

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 1>a deal. Hang out with you boys and talking to cowboys.

0:47:19.120 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>You understand I'm saying, listen, man, Jesse, all that was

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and all that kind of stuff. Y'all know what. Y'all

0:47:30.920 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>know what it is. I don't got job turkey he

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 1>talking over that. Come through hanging with the boys. If

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:37.120
<v Speaker 1>you want to come with you, if you want to

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>come hang out with your drunk goncal and talk good sports.

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Who's the drunk get drunk drunk. I'm the crazy cousin

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and then and then curtain Shannon. They just like related.

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>They like crazy. So yeah, yeah, we give a little

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 1>bit of everything, man, So come check us out man,

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:59.759
<v Speaker 1>eleven thirty Monday through Friday. You know what it is

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 1>with the boys. And I got my Danny shirt on.

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>See yeah tonight. We ain't afraid to promote it and

0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:06.319
<v Speaker 1>help out other people. That just how we get down

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 1>week because we take it. We take on everything. We

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>just do what you do, y'all talk about Wow, I'm

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 1>just wondering why I see y'all. Okay, watch my boy

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Daniel on Survivor tonight. Shout out Team Danny on Survivor

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>of course you can check us out. Me and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>along with Nick and Dave on the Break every day

0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 1>at ten thirty am. We'll be back next week in

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 1>our normal, normal settings. But man, it was good to

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<v Speaker 1>have y'all. I had a good time having y'all on,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully we can do this a little bit more, well,

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<v Speaker 1>just every every body week for sure until then. For

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<v Speaker 1>until next week. Friday is stand back. Jesse, Holly amber Garcia.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Derek Hilton. This has been The Break live on

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