1 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: What's that at my bed? It's Ricky. Hey Juky, I'm 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: hell I ghosted I gos Nanda's please, Hey boo, it's 4 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: me Roz and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the 5 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: podcast where I talk to people that I like about 6 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: the paranormal. Oh my god, Ricky Lindholme is on the show. 7 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: You know her from garfunkeln Oates another period. I mean, 8 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: she's just all over the place. I was watching that 9 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: SNL fiftieth anniversary special and I'm like, oh, there's Ricky Lenome. 10 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: She's just she's like right next I forget who the 11 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: famous person was she said next day, but she was 12 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: just sitting there and I was like, oh my god, 13 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: it's freaking lit home. She's She's all over the place. 14 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: She's somebody that I've met working at Largo, which is 15 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: truly just heaven on earth, just the best comedy place 16 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: in town in Los Angeles, which if you're ever in 17 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: La just go just go to Largo because you never 18 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: know who's gonna pop up on stage. I'm gonna be 19 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: popping up on stages near you, as you know, I'm already. 20 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm on tour right now and I'm going to gay 21 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: bars and I'm truly like at the time of this release, 22 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: i am out there. I'm in Buffalo, New York tonight. 23 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going on I'm all over the place. 24 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: Just go to Roshernandez tour dot com and you will 25 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: find those dates. I have something relevant to this very 26 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: podcast to bring up. Okay, did you listen to the 27 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: episode with Georgia hard stuff? Though George's kind of like 28 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: like share like, she doesn't even need a last name. 29 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: I can just say Georgia. You know, I'm talking about Georgia. 30 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: Georgia hert starts episode a couple of weeks back. A 31 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: couple months back, we talked about a woman who there 32 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: was an article written about her because she got a 33 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: soulmate drawing on Etsy and the person who did the 34 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: drawing nailed it and she ended up with that man. Well, 35 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: her name is Nicole, and she reached out to me. 36 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Nicole, and she has sent me the link 37 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: to the person who draws it. Now, I don't like 38 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: endorsing specific services and stuff like that unless I have 39 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: tried it myself, and so I'm not gonna say who 40 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing this through, but I'm just gonna do it 41 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna see what happens. So that's a 42 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: very exciting thing. I also I had a couple of 43 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: people reach out to me to be like, yeah, I 44 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: got one of those downe it didn't happen and it 45 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: don't work for me, which I imagine now, who knows, maybe 46 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: this artist just or this you know, psychic slash artist 47 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: just had a real good, real good day that day. 48 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: But Nicole sent me the one that was actually done 49 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: of her future man husband and it looks exactly like him. 50 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: Uh that's hot, especially because like he's he looks so 51 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: hot in the picture like I would if she drew 52 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: me a That's the thing. I'm terrified she's gonna draw 53 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: a picture of some dude and I'm gonna be like, please, no, 54 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: not to be vain, but actually I get a little 55 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: bit vain on this episode because we do talk about 56 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: somebody with a really nice leg. You'll see what I'm 57 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: talking about when I talk to regular at home and 58 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: just a moment, we just like we had such a 59 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: great little Kiki, the two of us, and turns out 60 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: she has some very fascinating things to say about her grandfather. 61 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: Just wait for it. Here we go. It's my conversation 62 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: with Ricky Lindholme and with the show. Oh my god, 63 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: Ricky lind Holme is here. 64 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: Hi, Hi, how are you nice to see you? 65 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: You two. 66 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: I'm so excited to be here. 67 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so excited to talk to you 68 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: about ghosts and psychic some weird stuff. Have you ever 69 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: experienced anything that you would consider paranormal. 70 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: I've had little moments, like psychic moments almost it's not 71 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: really psychic, but little bits, but I can't tell if 72 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: they're paranormal. 73 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Oh well, listen, I got a gavel. Yeah, I've decided 74 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: I'm the authority, and I do this because there's, like 75 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: you always hear these places in these things the most 76 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: haunted or like, I don't know, just in that world 77 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:28,119 Speaker 1: of ghosts, there's always so many like declarations of how 78 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: haunted something is or do just these statements that I'm like, 79 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: you know what, who decides that. I want to be 80 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: able to decide what's the most haunted, what is haunted? 81 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: What is a real paranormal experience? I'll do it right. 82 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: Well, mine are all about like scary men and having 83 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: intuition about them, so they're not real, not really paranormal. 84 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 2: But I do have this like I'll get these like 85 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: overwhelming feelings about things, and then I've been right a lot, 86 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: so I'm like, this is crazy. 87 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: No, that is for sure something I'm considering that something. 88 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: I got chased once in Beverly Hills. I was going 89 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: to I was on Cannon in Beverly Hills, but I 90 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: was supposed to be on Camden and I didn't realize it, 91 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: and it's sort of a ghost town at night, and this, 92 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: you know, some car just is like I just saw 93 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: some car. It was like a rain drove, like a 94 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: nice car in Beverly Hills. And something inside me was 95 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: like nope. They didn't do anything. They were like slowing 96 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: down a little bit, but I was like nope. And 97 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: I remember like reading about self defense and they say 98 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: to do something weird to throw people off. So I 99 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: ran into the middle of the street and just ran 100 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 2: down the yellow line and I just took off running 101 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: like without I just felt it, and I took a 102 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: runt and I turned around and they were both the 103 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: car was stopped and they were both out of their car. 104 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 1: Chasing me stop but. 105 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just was like, oh, I could feel 106 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: it was just some nice car and I was like nope, 107 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: and I ran down the middle of the road and 108 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: I hid behind this planter there was that Nick's Martini bar. 109 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: I was hidden behind this planter because the bar looked 110 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 2: but it wasn't open. So I was just sitting there 111 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: watching them in the window, looking to see like if 112 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: they had come over, like I probably would not be 113 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: here now. It was very scary and they were looking 114 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: and then they just drove away. But it was that 115 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: moment of like not going, oh, is that weird? I 116 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: just went weird running yes, street didn't take a second, 117 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: and like the worst thing that would have happened was 118 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: I was a crazy person running down the street and. 119 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: Oh well, which I always have to remind myself in 120 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: La like, no matter what, people that live here have 121 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: always seen something way more bizarre than whatever I'm doing. Yes, 122 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: so even if I do do, if I have some 123 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: funky outfit on or I don't know what like it 124 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: in a place like. 125 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: This, nobody cares. Yeah, nobody cares. And then I had 126 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 2: one other one in Las Vegas. Is this boring? 127 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Is this not boring. No, I think you're good. I 128 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: think it is Wait a second, Okay, you're the gabbo. 129 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: This is paranormal. I think intuition is major in this 130 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: conversation of the paranormal. I think that it's like because 131 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: it's one of these things that you it's not like 132 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: a concrete thing, but it's a vibe, it's a feeling. 133 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: And I think that those things, especially when they come 134 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: to fruition. 135 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: And when they're so loud and so immediate, it's like 136 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: it feels like a ghost, it feels like a psychic 137 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: it feels Yeah. 138 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 139 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: But the other time, I was in Las Vegas with 140 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 2: my friend Kate and we had rooms on different floors. 141 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: We got in an elevator. This man got in and 142 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: I was like, nope, nope, and I just felt like 143 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: he was going to do something to Kate, and so 144 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: I was. I started to maneuver to the front, and 145 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: I didn't even alert Kate that I was pulling her 146 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: off the elevator, but I got to the front, like 147 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: I sort of rudely smashed my way to the front. 148 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 2: We got up and I at the last second, right 149 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: before the elevator closed, I go come. 150 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: Here and I pulled her off the elevator. She was like, 151 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: what was that. I didn't like this man. 152 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: It was an elevator full of people, and I was like, 153 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: didn't like the man. I felt like he was going 154 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: to follow you to your room or to your floor, 155 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: because I was like, I saw him, watch you press 156 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: the button and she was like, okay. I was like, 157 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: just hang out here. 158 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: For you know. 159 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: So she hung out my room for like ten minutes. 160 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: She's like, I'm pretty sure it's safe. Now. 161 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: She goes up. 162 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: He's waiting there, and she runs and she ran into 163 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: her room. The guy was still waiting there for her. 164 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: I was right, Oh my god, Las Vegas. You never 165 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: know what you're going to find in an elevator in 166 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Like seriously, like the sound bites that I 167 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: have had with people where they're just telling their story. 168 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: You're like in the elevator and they're like and then 169 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: I just pooped on him. It was so weird and 170 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: then they like get off. You're like, well, what's that? 171 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: You're like, wait, what did I? 172 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 173 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: I wish I could like remember those because they're always 174 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: so funny when you hear like the weirdest Yeah, part 175 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: of a conversation, you're like, what was that? 176 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: So? What I love about your intuition is that it's 177 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: for protection and it's like it actually serves you, you know. 178 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: It's like sometimes you just get a vibehere you're like 179 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: I think I should do this or that or what. Like, 180 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just for some reason, I'm getting 181 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: this feeling that I don't know whatever, and it's like, 182 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what that was. That was weird. But 183 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: for you, it's like these are actually warning signs right 184 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: that you're picking up. 185 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: But I don't know if I'm always right. I remember 186 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: I got into an uber in Boston and that gut 187 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: feeling went nope, and I just was like, oh I 188 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: left something inside. I got out, ran inside, canceled the uber. 189 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: I could have been wrong. He could have been like, 190 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: who is this crazy woman? 191 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Like do you know what? 192 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: I mean? 193 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: You know what? At least you didn't have to learn 194 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: the hard way. You know, better safe than sorry? Are 195 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: you like that with I don't know? Just like you 196 00:10:54,280 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: can tell if someone is attracted to you or like 197 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: like for me, I have a hard time with that one, 198 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: Like I can't tell, like someone will be like you 199 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: know that that guy was just hitting on you, And 200 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, ow what, I can't tell that stuff at all. 201 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: And people often think I'm attracted to them when I'm 202 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: not because I'm friendly, so I'm just a smiley person 203 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: and so people mistake that sometimes too. 204 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: Now what about being a public figure, like could you 205 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: pick up when it's like, oh, this person those who 206 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: I am? 207 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: I feel like it's weird. The intuitions I do have 208 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: are so strong. It's like a psychic moment that stuff. 209 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: I'm so I always assume nobody does, Like I just 210 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: assume nobody knows who I am, and then they'll have 211 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: to say something. I just never do you ever assume 212 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: anyone knows who you are? 213 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Not really, I feel like, yeah, I feel like I'm 214 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: usually like, hi, my name is you know what I 215 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: always say to people like, I'll do this to you. 216 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: Next time I see you, I'll go hi, it's me ros, 217 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: just because I think it's the worst thing ever is 218 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: when some starts talking to you and you're like, I 219 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: don't know what their name. Most I don't know you. 220 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how I know you. 221 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: It's so polite to do the reminder. I do the 222 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 2: reminder too. Yeah, although I ran into this woman recently 223 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm RICKI. She's like, why do 224 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: you think I don't know who you are? And I 225 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I don't. I just am trying to 226 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: be She's like, I know who you are. Yeah. 227 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: See, I would way rather have that response than like, hey, 228 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: so it's me so anyway, Like that's nobody wants that. No, 229 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: So what about like a formal ghost. Have you ever 230 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: picked up vibes where you go to a place and 231 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: you're like, Ooh, I think there's a ghost in here. 232 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: I sort of feel a way about my house a 233 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: little bit. Ooh my current house I'm in just a 234 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: little because it's got a weird it's got. 235 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: A weird history. What's the history? 236 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: It's like almost everyone that lived here is in the 237 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: medical world somehow. And one of the original owners was 238 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: George Hodell. 239 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 1: Wait, you don't live in do you live in the 240 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: Jaws House? No? 241 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: No, No, it's just it's just he George Hodell lived 242 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: in a bunch of places, so this is just one 243 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: of the one of the many. You know, he's a 244 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: wealthy physician, and for anyone who doesn't know, it's it's 245 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: the guy who's suspected of killing the Black Dahlia. Yeah, 246 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: and he lived here, and he's suspected of killing you know, 247 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: hundreds of people or something. He's like, supposedly this right, 248 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: And for example, this closet that I'm in, I can't 249 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: close the door because it locks from the inside. 250 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: And you can't tell why does it lock from the inside. 251 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 252 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: But the first time I closed it, I got stuck 253 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: in here and had to call someone to get me out, 254 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: and so I don't actually close it. 255 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: All the way. 256 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: So there's weird creepy things about the house. 257 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: Fascinating. Okay, wait, so this George Hodell got I read 258 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: that book? Did you ever read that book? It's called 259 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: The Black Dahlia Avenger. 260 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 2: The one of his son wrote, yes, yes, loved it. 261 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so basically this man's son, Wait, what is 262 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: what is the son? He's like, he's a homicide detective. Okay, 263 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: homicide detective. And he writes a book about how he 264 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: believed it's like his theory that the Black Dahlia the 265 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: most famous unsolved murder, uh super twisted that it was 266 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: committed by his father in the basement of this house. Yes, 267 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: and this house. This house has actually been on the 268 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: TV show Ghost Adventures. They did they did like a 269 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: ghost hunt in there, and uh yeah, it's like this 270 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: unsolved case. I don't know if I buy the store, 271 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: It's like I do. He found a picture of some 272 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: lady and he's like, it's her. I'm like, maybe if 273 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: you squint, I don't know it's I think it's possible 274 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: for sure, but I just don't think it's her in 275 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: the picture that he found. 276 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: Oh, not necessarily, but I do think that he's right 277 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: that his dad is the killer. 278 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was just so much, you know. 279 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: Because he moved to like Korea or something like. He 280 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: was about to get caught and he was suspect in 281 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: all these murders. So he left town and he would 282 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: come back to California once a year, they think, to 283 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: kill someone and then went back. 284 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: I mean, get a better hobby. I know. Creepy dude. 285 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: So okay, so that man lived in your home. 286 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: So it feels a little creepy here because of that, 287 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't feel any ghost present. Do 288 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: you have Do you feel like you have ghosts in 289 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: your house? 290 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I have a strict rule against ghosts in 291 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: the house and just to be saved. I I am 292 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: constantly just double checking that there's no ghosts in my home. 293 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't bring my work home. I just want to 294 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: make sure that it is clear what the ghosts you 295 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: are now welcomed here. I don't even care if you're 296 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: a nice ghost, you cannot come because it's my sanctuary, 297 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: right So where I sleep alone, I want to be alone, absolutely. 298 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: I you know, like people will say, oh, you put 299 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: salt down, you know, on the ground, and then that 300 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: sort of like does a barrier. Well, like you know, 301 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: I have to sweep or you know, vacuum or whatever. 302 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not putting salt in the floor, so 303 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that all the time. Well, I sort 304 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: of do what I do is I have like a 305 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: salt shaker or like that you grind like with like 306 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Himalayan salt crystals, the one in my kitchen. When I remember, 307 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: I just do like a little sweep around with it 308 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: of the front door, just just underneath there. 309 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: Wow, do you have a rumba? 310 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: No I don't, but you just sweep it up yourself. Yeah, 311 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: I think that. I think me walking through it just 312 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: sort of pushes it away at times, but and then 313 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, I think we're due for a little bit 314 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: as soon as I put a little pepper, a little paprika, 315 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: a little you know, just to make it nice and savory. 316 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: Are you scared of ghosts or you just like you 317 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: just want to be alone? 318 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: I mean I only like half believe in ghosts. I 319 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: mean I I absolutely believe that they're real. I am 320 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: very skeptical of ghosts. But at the same time, I 321 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: don't want to find out. I'm like super not interested 322 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: in like I like to hear about it. I do 323 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: not want them in my home. I have an alleged 324 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: haunted doll that is in my home and I keep 325 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: it in the hallway outside of my bedroom, and nothing 326 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: has happened. 327 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: Is it like protection? Is it like boarding away other things? 328 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: Maybe the haunted doll? 329 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not sure, but I definitely have 330 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: it in a box that is filled with literally every 331 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: single culture's version of keeping away demons. It's like all 332 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: stuffed in one box together, so it's like being smushed 333 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: in there with like different kinds of crystals. 334 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: Subes and whatever. 335 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: Absolutely I've never. 336 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: Done any of that. I probably should, Yeah, I mean, 337 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: because you know, sometimes in life, like things are like 338 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: really flowing and everything's amazing, and sometimes you're like, nobody 339 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: likes me, everything's going wrong. Like that's when I need. 340 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: It's clear I need, I need an evil doll to 341 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 2: protect me. Yeah. 342 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: I think it's good to just like reset whatever that means, 343 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: or you know, whatever works for everyone. Like I think 344 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: ultimately good overcomes bad, and so if good looks like 345 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: Jesus to you, or you know, saving yourself or whatever 346 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: it means to you, I think it's really the belief 347 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: in the good that is the main thing. That's what 348 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, but I don't nobody knows anything. 349 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to refute that. That sounds pretty great, 350 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: it sounds yeah. 351 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: I like to keep my mind open, like whatever. 352 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: I know. It's pretty arrogant when people think that they know. 353 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: It's like, well, yeah, are you like you're positive? You 354 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: know exactly? You know what God looks like, what happens 355 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: after we die, what he likes and doesn't like, what 356 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: it's like. You're not even like open to other things 357 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: being true. It's it's the certainty is very interesting to me. 358 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, how do you how do you know like, yes, 359 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: it could be better than you think it could be, 360 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: like way better than you think it could be. 361 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: It probably is, who knows, Maybe it's worse, maybe there's nothing. 362 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: Who knows. But uh yeah. Going back to like the 363 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: gavel and everything like that is what a lot of 364 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: ghost content is is like an expert, like a person 365 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: that truly has these beliefs of different things, which is wonderful, 366 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: but that's not what this show is. This show is 367 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: like whatever, I'm open to anybody's beliefs. 368 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I had strong intuitions about more things 369 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: than just dangerous men. 370 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: What about in like your live performing life, do you 371 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: have vibes like do you go okay, this this room 372 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: is weird? Or like I don't know, do you does? 373 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 374 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 375 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: The good thing about comedy, good and bad, is like 376 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 2: you know when it's going well and when it's. 377 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: Not, like I'll they tell you instantly yeah. 378 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 2: They're laughing or you're bumming and yeah, so I guess yes, 379 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: But I don't know if anything to the level of 380 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: like I'm getting you off the elevator because that man's 381 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: going to go to your room, Like I don't have 382 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. 383 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: Oh God, I hate that. What about you have a 384 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: grandpa story? Yeah? 385 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: So I was listening to your podcast. I listened to 386 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: the episode with rosebud Baker and you were talking about 387 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: that's incredible. 388 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: Oh the TV show. Yeah, TV show. 389 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, because because I was like, because I was thinking, 390 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't really have any ghost things, 391 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: and I was listening and then you're talking about the 392 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: show my grandfather was on. 393 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: That's incredible. 394 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 2: What as a guest, Yeah, because he my grandfather is 395 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: an undertaker in the small town called Countersport, Pennsylvania, and 396 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: in the town was one of the first instances of 397 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 2: what they believe was spontaneous human combustion. What. Yeah, so 398 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: this guy spontaneously combested, supposedly, and my grandfather, because he's 399 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: like the only undertaker in town. 400 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: Like cleaned him up. 401 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: Like he went and like the only thing was left 402 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 2: was like a pile of ashes and like a leg 403 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: with a slipper on it, and he collected it. Yeah. 404 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: Okay, not to be like this, but that's incredible. 405 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: It's really weird when you read about the case, like, 406 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: it's probably. 407 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: Not right now, what do I google? So? 408 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So the guy's name is John Irving Bentley. 409 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: John Irving bent Lee. 410 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 2: Has a Wikipedia. I was looking at Wikipedia. Yeah, oh 411 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: my god, my grandfather is not in it. My grandfather's 412 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 2: Richard Lincolm. He's not in it. But he was on 413 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: That's incredible. And he was in some other book just 414 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: like talking about what he saw and. 415 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: He believed that that was the cause. Now wait, I 416 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: get confused. Undertake what is. 417 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: So he was the funeral director. 418 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: He's it was small. 419 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 2: It was a small town, like really small town in 420 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 2: this was in like the sixties, and so he ended 421 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: up sort of being sometimes the mortician sort of like 422 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: it's especially the ambulance driver. Yeah, but he was. He 423 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: was the only game in town for funerals stuff. 424 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: So do you think that he had to like, uh, 425 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: like put lipstick on ladies and like make them look 426 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: all pretty and do their makeup. 427 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 2: All that, all the embalming everything. My dad grew up 428 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: in that house and it was like the embalming room. 429 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: Was right in the house. 430 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 2: In the house. Yeah, small town. The front room was 431 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: like when there was funerals that my dad had like 432 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: go around the back. And my dad to this day 433 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: hates flowers because whenever there were flowers at the house, 434 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: it means someone in the town died, and so he's 435 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: just like he hates he hates them. And yeah, the 436 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: service was in the house, the embalming everything, the coffins, 437 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: like just in the house. 438 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: Now, did your dad ever like believe in that kind 439 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: of stuf, like ghosts or anything. 440 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: Well, he had one instant. This was when he was 441 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: like seven years old. He went to see the movie 442 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: Dracula with his sister and it was the same time 443 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: where there was like a coffin. There was too many coffins, 444 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: and so he had to go to sleep that night 445 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: in his room with a coffin at the end of 446 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: his bed. And he said, like he really thought Dracula 447 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: was in there, but I think that's the closest he got. 448 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: Too many coffins. There's an overflow, and you have to 449 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: put it in your child's bedroom. 450 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, the day that they see Dracula. Yeah, so 451 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: he said, he's to this day has never been so 452 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: scared in his life. He just was up all night worried. 453 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: I feel like to survive that lifestyle, you would have 454 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: to like shut that part of your brain off of 455 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: like that there's ghosts or any of that. You're literally 456 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: having dead bodies coming in and out of your house 457 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: NonStop all the time. 458 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, none of the kids ever saw a dead body, 459 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 2: but my cousin did. He was like three years old 460 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: and he's like, who's that boy sleeping in there? And 461 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: they're like, oh, and it was. It was a full 462 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: grown man. But he's just like, who's that boy who's asleep? 463 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: And they were like, uh, he's passed. 464 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: Away, taken a long nap. Yeah. Wait a second. Okay, 465 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: So I googled this story, this website endeavornews dot com. Okay, 466 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: so wait a second. Here it says fifty years later, 467 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: Bentley death still a mystery. Gerald Young, an independent documentary producer, 468 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: is studying the December fifth, nineteen sixty sixth death of 469 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: doctor John Irving Bentley during a home fire on North 470 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: Main Street. Wait a second, Okay, so some people are 471 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: skeptical and believe that the fire was the result of 472 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: careless smoking. Oh my god, there's literally a photo here 473 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: is that you gross of a leg But it's like 474 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: black and white, so I can't like, it's not like 475 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: a crystal clear HD whatever, but you basically just see, well, 476 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: there's a toilet, a walker, and definitely something a bunch 477 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: of stuff is burnt. And then there's burned a hole. 478 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: In the floor and yeah, the leg was in the basement. 479 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 2: It like burned a hole in the floor, but didn't 480 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 2: burn anything else around it, including the walker, So it's weird. 481 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: And then there's a leg. 482 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, then there's the leg. It's just unlikely, Like it's 483 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: just it's very strange. 484 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: How did whatever? 485 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: And he was ninety two, so he wasn't like didn't 486 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: have like a meth lab or something. You know, he's 487 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: a ninety two year old doctor. 488 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: What the hell it says that? I think this was 489 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: also on Unsolved Mysteries, was it? Wow? Oh my, And 490 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: they interviewed your grandpa for for that. 491 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: That's incredible. And then some book called a Blaze, A Blaze, 492 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 2: A blaze, there's a whole book about spontaneous human combustion 493 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: and he's in that too. 494 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: Wait a second, this is like not something that we've 495 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: ever really talked about on this podcast. But I love 496 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: this because, of course with the paranormal, it's like things 497 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: that are so weird that science can't really explain them. 498 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: And there's certain things like these cases of spontaneous combustion 499 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: or like, oh, it's raining frogs in this town or 500 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: what like there's certain things where there will be the 501 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: people that are like I went to college, and I'll 502 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: tell you how much happened they of this thing that happens. 503 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: Old. 504 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: Listen, I didn't go to college, so I'm here to 505 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: be like great that means that people can just blow 506 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: up out of nowhere totally. 507 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: It's just too weird, Like there's no like if there 508 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 2: was a fire, why didn't anything else catch on fire? 509 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: Like why just the true he was like nothing like that. 510 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: You know. The rubber tips on his walker were fine, 511 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: like that would have melted that, The towels were fine, 512 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: everything was fine. It was just like hole in the 513 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 2: linoleum floor that his body like went to the basement. 514 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 2: It was like an explosion of some sort. 515 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: And then just the leg. I'm not gonna I'm not 516 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: gonna lie, And I don't know if this is a 517 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: messed up thing. He has really nice legs, does he 518 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: It's nice, Like it's a nice. 519 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: You take your trainer and you're like, I want to 520 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: look like this, like ignore the rest of his photo. 521 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so funny. 522 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: Like it looks from this photo like a nice leg. 523 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: It like, I don't know, it's a cut fit. 524 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: Keeping fit in ninety two. He's I guess doing his 525 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: squats or something. That's so funny. 526 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Okay. I was just recently watching 527 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: this murder documentary and they were showing this woman like 528 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: they should first of all lately when I've been because 529 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: I sometimes put those things on when I'm doing arts 530 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: and crafts, like because I need something I can like 531 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: listen to that I don't need to like look too 532 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:02,440 Speaker 1: much at. And they were showing one where like they 533 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: showed the crime scene like and actually, I was gonna say, 534 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: the past few I've watched they like show the crime scenes, 535 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: which I don't like I want to see those, I 536 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: don't either, but this one in particular, they did the 537 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,239 Speaker 1: thing where they like the lady was like naked and 538 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: they like blurred out like all of her naughty bits 539 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: and like her like eyes so that you like, can't 540 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: you know they're keeping her identity but like the rest 541 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: of her body, and it was not flattering, and I 542 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 1: would have been so pissed off, like that's how you 543 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: she will haunt your ass whoever the person is, like, 544 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: that's why are. 545 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: You putting me on TV we Meet Alone. 546 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you should not be putting people's pictures of that. 547 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to be like this, but at 548 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: least make it a cute picture if it's gonna be 549 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: a crime scene. And I have to say for doctor Irving, 550 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: is that his name, doctor Bentley? 551 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: Doctor Bentley? 552 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not a bad this is not a 553 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: bad ankle down. 554 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: So well, at least he has that, so he's probably 555 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: not haunting anyone. 556 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: He's fine. 557 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: You got a good photo. Yeah, and he went so fast. 558 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: But see, now that's how you can create a ghost 559 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: because they don't even know that they're a ghost. If 560 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: you just burnt, if you just all of a sudden 561 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: are here and then you explode, you're like, wait, am 562 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: I alive? What's going on? 563 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: And then he's like, what happened to my leg? 564 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? Exactly, and now you're a ghost everywhere. What do 565 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: you think of like bigfoot type stuff? 566 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: I never do. It never crosses my mind ever, Like 567 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: I never have thought about bigfoot for one second in 568 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: my life. What do you think about that kind of stuff? 569 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. It does cross my mind NonStop 570 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: because of this podcast. I don't think it would otherwise, 571 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: but it does come up for me and I think 572 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: about it. I love the idea of going out into 573 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: the woods to go look for something like that, but 574 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: I just I really don't like that environment. Yeah, it's 575 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: really scary to me. Also, I just rewatched The Blair 576 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: Witch and I just really can't imagine going out there. 577 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 1: But I say, yeah, sure, why not? 578 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just yeah, it's like asking me, like, what 579 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: my favorite kind of silt is in Lake Michigan. I'm like, 580 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't care. I'd never I'll never 581 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: think about that, Yeah, exactly. 582 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: What about just like psychics in general, Like, have you 583 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: been to a psychic? 584 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 2: I have. I've been to two, because I did, like 585 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 2: I went to one. It was I had a time 586 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: in my life I was like my first like big breakup, 587 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: and you know when you're like looking for answers outside yourself. 588 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: Somehow I started going to all these people and just 589 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: to see if it would help. And yeah, I got 590 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 2: my star chart done and that was interesting but not 591 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: particularly helpful. And then I went to one woman who 592 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: was like a spiritual like body healer or something, and 593 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: she kept telling me I had an eating disorder and 594 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 2: I was like, no, I don't. I'm telling you I 595 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: can't eat because I'm going through a breakup, like I 596 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: need to. And she was like no, She's like we 597 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: need to talk about this, and I was like I 598 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 2: don't though I'm depressed. So I left her and I 599 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: went to the doctor and got a weed card, so 600 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: I weed and then I was eating again and that 601 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: was fine. So I was doing all these things and 602 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: they weren't really going well. But this friend said to 603 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: go see this like uber psychic. So I'm like, okay, 604 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 2: I'll do that. 605 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: And wait, what does that mean? 606 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: Like you know the like no, like the celebrity psychics, 607 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: like the no no, like like the fancy fancy oh 608 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: you know, well renowned. 609 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: She's the psychic of the star. 610 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 2: It's like metal streep psychic or something. 611 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 612 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: I don't really right, I went and you know, I 613 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: recorded it and staid it was fascinating, and she told 614 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 2: me all these very specific things. She was like, your 615 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: soulmate's name starts with a jay, You're going to live 616 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: in New York for five months this year. Your TV 617 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: I was going to go five seasons, like all these things, 618 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: and so I was like, I need a second opinion. 619 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: So I went to another psychic. 620 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: Did you tell the second psychic any of the stuff 621 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: you learned? No? So I just went to the other psychic. 622 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: They said the exact same stuff, the Jay soulmate spend 623 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: all this time in New York, blah blah. Turns out 624 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: none of it true. They were both wrong. I was 625 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: like waiting to get this job in New York. I 626 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: was waiting for this J man. 627 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: Nothing. Maybe they confused you for somebody else they must have. 628 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: Maybe they got confused with one of their other celebrity clients. 629 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: I wonder who that is. 630 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: Well, I did look it up in Jay is like 631 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: one of the most popular start letters for men's names, 632 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,239 Speaker 2: so sometimes they picked either like j D or M. 633 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: So well, yeah, that's a great guess. 634 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like John Jack Jake. 635 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: Yes that makes sense. Yeah. God, that is so annoying 636 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 1: what they tell you things that are so specific and 637 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: then none of it comes true and then it wasn't true. 638 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: I betcha that woman is so wealthy, like a psychic 639 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: to the stars. 640 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine. I don't even remember how much 641 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: I paid her, but it was a lot. 642 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 1: It's probably like her fifth one of the day. Just 643 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: tell she probably told every single person their TV show 644 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: is going to go five season. 645 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah it didn't. 646 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a great one. You know. 647 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: Do you go to a lot of psychics not stop. 648 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: Never, never stop? Really yeah, I'm always just poking my 649 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: head in just you know, for research. I don't feel 650 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: like I've ever had any psychic ever, give me, like, 651 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: holy shit, I can't believe. I mean, I've had a 652 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 1: couple of things that I guess were like prediction type 653 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: stuff like that where I can look back and go, Okay, 654 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: that was pretty good. What I really want is a medium, Yeah, 655 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: to start talking to, like somebody dad. 656 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 2: Then I know Tyler Henry, Yes, I yeah. 657 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: That has never happened to me. 658 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: He's had some weird predictions that have come true that 659 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 2: are so bizarre. 660 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god. He's had a few. There was one 661 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: not though, Oh he said somebody's house was going to 662 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: burn down, Ricky Lake. The other Ricky he said that 663 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: Ricky Lake's house was going to burn down and then 664 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: it did, which stuff like that. It's like so wild 665 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: to say something like that to someone. 666 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 2: Because it's so unlikely. It's not like it's not like 667 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: you're going to get another acting job, Ricky, Like right 668 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 2: your house is going to burn down. That's crazy. 669 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: It goes back to you with being like is this like, 670 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: am I going to be a weirdo because I'm feeling 671 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: this feeling and like turns out you're right or whatever. 672 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: But it's like I'm sure he deals with that all 673 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: the time where it's like I really don't want to 674 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: say this to you. He said to Alan Thick like 675 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: you need to get your heart checked out, and then 676 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: he passed away because of heart stuff. 677 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: That is that one is crazy? That one's yeah, Tyler 678 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 2: Henrys like it dialed into something. 679 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but he's dialed into something. I 680 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: just recently had a psychic that was like so sure 681 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: of somebody that was trying to communicate with me, and 682 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't know who that is. 683 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: But then I started thinking, could it be somebody that 684 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: has admired me from Afar and they've passed and they 685 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: would want to like say hi to me from the 686 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: other side, Like I don't know it, maybe that's a possibility. 687 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: Maybe, or what if it's like a great great grandmother 688 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 2: or something like just being like good job, or whatever. 689 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, but this they were like a young 690 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: gay guy and he's like being like, you go girl, 691 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: and I'm like, who I don't like? But they were 692 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: describing him physically, and I'm like, I can't think of 693 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: any younger gay guys with that physical description. But like, 694 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it's like somebody that listened to 695 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: the podcast or like I don't know something. 696 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, or that person has no idea what they're talking about. 697 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: Who knows one of them could be that too? 698 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you think you'd be a good fake psychic 699 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: or fake medium? Could you enough that you? 700 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? Part of the reason I go to so many 701 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: psychics is so when all goes to shit for me, 702 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: I could start charging people and I can start telling 703 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: them messages from their grandparents. 704 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: Have you ever done a reading on the podcast? 705 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: Have I given someone one? 706 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 2: Yeah? 707 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely want me to do it right now? Yeah, okay, okay, 708 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: I'm there is somebody coming through for you. He's an 709 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: older man. He keeps telling me like I'm seeing like 710 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: Embalmings stuff. 711 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, gosh, I don't know anyone that would apply to. 712 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: It's like the weirdest thing because he's like he's like 713 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: talking about like coffins and. 714 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: No not nothing's ringing a bell. No, I don't know. 715 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Listen, I don't I'm just telling you 716 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: what I wrong. 717 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 2: Person. It's for the Jasonmate person. 718 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: Okay, maybe maybe that was Yeah, it was for that 719 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 1: person somebody else. Hey, can I show you a haunted doll? 720 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? I love that. 721 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living? Okay, So Ricky, 722 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: I go to eBay, I type in the words haunted doll, 723 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: and you never know what's gonna come up. They all 724 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: come with their own biographies. These are all real eBay listings. 725 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: You can see a photo of it on our Instagram 726 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 1: at ghosted by Ras. I would like for you today 727 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: to meet for one hundred dollars Sammy. 728 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 2: Ugh, yuck, yuck. 729 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: So Sammy is a clown doll? Oh my god. It 730 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: would appear that he weighs very large hands. Yeah, very 731 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: large hands. 732 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 2: Uh, sort of droopy dog eyes. 733 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: Definitely droopy dog eyes. I think dreadlocks. I don't know 734 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: what's going on with the hair situation, but I appreciate 735 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: the matching hat with the matching rest of the outfit. 736 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if that doll's hunted, but I know 737 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 2: I don't want it in my house. 738 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: Well just wait because maybe if after I read this 739 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: to you, you'll be like, oh, actually I am competitive. 740 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: Maybe not, I don't know. It just says here the 741 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 1: person that sold it is selling it for one hundred dollars, 742 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: has written, please note it may take a few months 743 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: with you to see any activity with this doll when 744 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: it moves from one location another, So please give it 745 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: time because very rarely you will see activity immediately. So 746 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: they just wanted to put that disclaimer in there, so 747 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 1: don't expect things to happen right away. But it says, 748 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: meet Sammy, whose nickname is also chuckles. You can hear 749 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: him chuckling at times. It says, let's be honest, everyone 750 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: needs a little chaos in their lives. No, they don't. 751 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: No, I don't need more. 752 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't want that. It says, I am selling the 753 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: perfect conduit for just that. I am reluctantly parting ways 754 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: with Sammy, a vintage clown doll with unique qualities. Why 755 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 1: am I selling him? Good question. Let's just say Sammy 756 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: comes with baggage, spiritual baggage, specifically the lingering presence of 757 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: an evil man. Named Sammy that practiced Satanism and is 758 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: believed to be a serial killer, although never caught. So 759 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: that's who comes with this doll, apparently guaranteed to haunt 760 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: your nightmares. Okay, he does self repositioning. He has a 761 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 1: habit of ending up in unexpected places. You put him 762 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: on a shelf, you might find him staring at you 763 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: from the foot of your bed. He's a real mover. 764 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: He whispers. You can hear faint whispers. 765 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 2: I don't want any of that. 766 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: It says mild poulter geist activity, mild, mild polterguy's activity. 767 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: I don't like. 768 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: How is any poltergeists activity mildo? 769 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: Well, because you know, yeah, you when you picture of 770 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: bolter guys, it's very aggressive chucking things. This just sort 771 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: of it says objects, yeah, yeah, just like ah, It 772 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: says objects in your chuckles may occasionally shift, fall, or 773 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: mysteriously wind up hidden in various strange places. Missing socks 774 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: showing up in the freezer. That is weird. That's weird. Now, 775 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 1: how is that clown doll climbing up a freezer, opening 776 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: the door and putting your socks in there? You're starting 777 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: to lose me on this. His painted eyes, follow you 778 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: cold spots. He does it all really, and I, you know, 779 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: I appreciate the well rounded nature, like you know where 780 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 1: it's like on a resume special skills, I feel them. 781 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: He's got a very big special skills. 782 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 2: Like when you're first started act in your special skills, 783 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 2: do you have nothing else in your resumes? You have 784 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 2: like forty five special skills that you can barely. 785 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: Do exactly horseback riding, juggling. So it says who is 786 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: this doll for? I really appreciate the person selling this 787 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: that they really did their own survey here. Who is 788 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: this doll for? The aspiring paranormal investigator? Skip the ouiji board, 789 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: get up close and personal with the afterlife. It also 790 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: says who is this doll? Not for? Oh, people with 791 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: heart conditions. Seriously, you might want to set this one out. Children. 792 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: This is definitely not a toy. Skeptics, you won't be 793 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: one for long. Anyone who doesn't want to hear about 794 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: Sammy's horrible sense of humor? Okay, this person's having too 795 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: much fun with us. It says, I am not responsible 796 00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: for any hauntings, possessions, or general weirdness that might her 797 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: after purchasing Sammy, there are no refunds. Seriously, please handle 798 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: him with caution and respect. 799 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 2: Yes, so, I mean I guess that's the way to 800 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 2: get rid of some trash for. 801 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: One hundred dollars. Not a bad way to make a 802 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 1: hundred bucks. 803 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, get chat GPT to write up that description. 804 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:25,280 Speaker 1: I am telling you. You will know that my career 805 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 1: in show business has ended when I start selling dolls 806 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: I buy at Goodwills, and I start writing biographies for them, 807 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: and I start saying I'm giving ratings. Now, that's what 808 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: you know. I have given up and the entertainment business 809 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: has given up on me officially. 810 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 2: But you would do better names than Sammy, I think 811 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 2: or Chuckles. 812 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: I like Chuckles. I think that's cute Sammy. 813 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 2: But yeah Sammy. 814 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: So Sammy is the suspected murderer that is attached to 815 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: Chuckles the clown doll. 816 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 2: Oh so there do Okay, they're a package deal. 817 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, got it? So basically, uh chuckle like, there isn't 818 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: a ghost clown or anything like that. There's just a 819 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: clown doll and then a serial killer that has a 820 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: twisted sense of humor that hides socks that comes with 821 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 1: anywhere Chuckles the doll goes. 822 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 2: Wow, that would be a pretty horrible afterlife is getting 823 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,720 Speaker 2: stuck inside chuckles. 824 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I don't know. That's what I always say. 825 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: I think it goes. You can either choose heaven, hell, 826 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 1: or haunted eBay, doll, those are your three options when 827 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: you die. Apparently. 828 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 2: Wow, Hey, Ricky, Yeah, can I. 829 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: Play you some ghost voices? I love that. It's time 830 00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: for EVP or ev please, Okay, So electronic voice phenomena 831 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: EVPs anytime a ghost is captured speaking. I find recordings 832 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: on YouTube of real EVPs, and I'm going to play 833 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: two of them for you, and i want you to 834 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: tell me what you think they say, Okay, and then 835 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you some options abc D. One of the 836 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 1: options being what the person that posted at things it's saying? Okay, okay. 837 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: This one was posted on YouTube by Jessica r Woe 838 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 1: sick and it just says it's at a haunted hotel. 839 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying? Don't do it? 840 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 2: Oh? 841 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:59,240 Speaker 1: Totally wait, don't do Yeah. I think that's a pretty 842 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: good guess what do. 843 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 2: You think it is? Well, right right, I think it's 844 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 2: don't do it. 845 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: Well, here's some options. Just plant some seeds in your head. 846 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: Maybe it could be one of these. They think it 847 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: was a please don't talk to him, B don't do it, 848 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: C doctor, or D don't don't they're doing like the 849 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: Netflix or or either one. Okay, well, I mean it's B. Yeah, 850 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: it's definitely that. You're right, it's don't do it do Yeah. 851 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know what they're talking about. Uh, but 852 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: that is a creepy whisper of a ghost. This was 853 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: also posted on YouTube by Brandon Elvis, and it is 854 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 1: at a place called the Murphy's Historic Hotel in Murphy's, California, 855 00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 1: which is up north. What is this one saying? Twenty 856 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's harder? 857 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 2: Keep played again? 858 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, boo, it's like twenty. 859 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 2: Here, like twenty two to two or like wait wait waiter, yeah, 860 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 2: you're twenty two to two. For some reason, I don't 861 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 2: think that's it, because why would she say that. 862 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 1: She sounds like an old timy lady. Like, I know, 863 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 1: it's weird, how like people's affectations a stuff have changed, 864 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, But I feel like she's like I feel 865 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: like she's from whatever era like Minie Mouse is based on, 866 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: like that type of Russell. 867 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 2: She's like what do you know sir yea twenty two two, 868 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 2: twenty two two, twenty two two. She's like a little girl. 869 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 2: She's like a little kid actor in the fifties mother. 870 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 2: Oh you know what she sounds like. She sounds like 871 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 2: in at the end of It's a Wonderful Life. Every 872 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 2: time I bail rings. 873 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god, which is like teachers, it's that, 874 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 1: it is that, Oh my god? Well do they think 875 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: it was A what do you think you're doing? B? 876 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: Why don't you think I'm cute? Oh? I've said that. CE, 877 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: what do I have to do? Or D? I want 878 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: to see Puss in Boots? Don't want to see that 879 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: movie Puss in Boots. Gosh, I'm torn between A and C. 880 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: Either what do you think You're doing? 881 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 2: Or C? 882 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: What do I have to do? It sounds like two two, 883 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 1: So what do I have to do? Maybe? Maybe CE 884 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: they believe it's a what do you think you're doing? Okay, 885 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: now that we know that, let's listen. Yeah, where's that doing? 886 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: Because it's not like what do you think you're I 887 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: could hear maybe what do you think you you do? 888 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: You do? I don't know. I listen. I it's in California. 889 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: It's not too far. I'm gonna I'm gonna head on 890 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: up there and try to talk to this woman investigating 891 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,919 Speaker 1: and go listen. We just need to know what did 892 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 1: you say that time on YouTube? What do you do? 893 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: What do you do? What the teachers is? What are 894 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 1: you doing every time of And that's why you have 895 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: this gorgeous voiceover recording booth, because you can do amazing voice. 896 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 1: You can do that daughter from I don't know, what's 897 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: a wonderful life. I don't know what that character's name is. 898 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I do know because I watched it 899 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: this last Christmas. 900 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 2: Always like Tommy Jane, there. 901 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: Always generic Susie. Ricky is a great name. Thank you, 902 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 1: and I got to have you on the show and 903 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm honored. And that's pretty much it. 904 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 2: It was so fun. Thank you for having Ross is 905 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 2: a great. 906 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:16,240 Speaker 1: Name, Thank you and our name the two of us. Ricky. 907 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 1: What's going on? Where are you at? What are you 908 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 1: doing well? 909 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 2: I have a new album out it's called No Worries 910 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 2: If Not. It's my first full length solo album, and 911 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 2: I've been performing on the road doing a fertility musical 912 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 2: that's a comedy. It's called Dead Inside and I'm. 913 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: Touring it, so where are you going? 914 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 2: I'm setting it up right now, but I'm going to 915 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 2: New York, New York and Texas next and doing it 916 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and then after that, I'm not totally sure. 917 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: Phenomenal. Well, congratulations, thank you? What do you think? Good dude, 918 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 1: what do you do? Thank you, Ricky? That was fun. Hey, 919 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: make sure you're listening to this podcast on the Heart 920 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. Make 921 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,839 Speaker 1: sure you give us a nice little rating. I love 922 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 1: you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't 923 00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me, kay By. 924 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,959 Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production. Want to share 925 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: your paranormal experience on the podcast. I read stories out 926 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 1: loud and sometimes I'll even call you, So email me 927 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. 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