WEBVTT - Episode 264 "Amy Luciani"

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<v Speaker 1>Word with me here.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, b T.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just so low shot of O C T. No

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<v Speaker 3>real color what we see whole game? Ready, Butler bo something? Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't stand on their own, Susie. I already know

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<v Speaker 3>you can't bother with me because up with the squad

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<v Speaker 3>on me. They get a little they called me love

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<v Speaker 3>he love but Alert.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to the Butler Alert Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Is O C T with us? This boy, you know

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<v Speaker 1>big T.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a special guest.

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<v Speaker 1>In the build.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you want to introduce yourself since you already doing radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you already know I'm here.

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<v Speaker 5>It's Amy Luciani, y'all, the bad Lady Detroit Stand Up, Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 5>stand doub Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking about.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, make sure y'all like subscribe to all that.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all finna get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm ready hosting the show with us.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hosting the show. I feel really special? Am I important?

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<v Speaker 5>That?

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<v Speaker 1>Why you here? You know i'd be too humble.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be coming places sometime and be like, y'all want

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<v Speaker 5>me here?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys, you're shining and you're looking good. Thank you a

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<v Speaker 4>million buck?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 5>All right, here we got I love Majory at home.

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<v Speaker 5>You got the earring zone. Don't get it twisted.

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<v Speaker 1>I got one in, I left, I lost the other one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I got a secret looks Tory Lanez sen years.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your thoughts about that? Do y'all think it's fair?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna say this. I'm not a girl who fears

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<v Speaker 5>cancelation of the culture. I feel like it was excessive.

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<v Speaker 5>I felt like ten it was so many loops in

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<v Speaker 5>this story for me that I literally couldn't pick aside

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<v Speaker 5>and go with him or her.

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<v Speaker 8>But I know, yeah, No, I think it was excessive.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was a little bit of assessive as well.

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<v Speaker 7>The reason why I say that because honestly, I thought

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<v Speaker 7>Tory Lanez was gonna get off.

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<v Speaker 8>You did.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly thought he was.

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<v Speaker 7>Gonna get off because and oh, cet, I know you're

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<v Speaker 7>looking at me crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I'm going to say this, Because when.

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<v Speaker 7>They were it was so much stuff going on, like

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<v Speaker 7>back and like it was just such a great crowd,

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<v Speaker 7>Like it's like all the information, you don't really know

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<v Speaker 7>what's going on based on what they was telling us.

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<v Speaker 7>And I've seen where they said that they couldn't find

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<v Speaker 7>his handprints on the.

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<v Speaker 8>Gun that blew me away.

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<v Speaker 1>So and you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not a lawyer, but I'm thinking, like everybody else, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>if you can't if this guy supposedly shot her the

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<v Speaker 7>prince his.

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<v Speaker 8>Gun, that would be on the gun if you did it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it was more so the cockiness and yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>spreading it.

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<v Speaker 8>It was an example being set. I love with this.

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<v Speaker 6>Because then they alleged was alleged that he was leaking

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<v Speaker 6>the information to academics.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, allegedly because Meghan posted that, Yo, how are you

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<v Speaker 7>getting this information? We ain't even went the we ain't

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<v Speaker 7>even inside the court room. Yeah, you know you posting

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<v Speaker 7>this stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was an area there was because it was

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<v Speaker 5>such a big conversation. I felt like on his end,

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<v Speaker 5>he was kind of coming out already like I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Win this, and and I was thinking the same thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like the way he was acting, because you know,

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<v Speaker 7>allegedly he punched august Alsina, he didn't.

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<v Speaker 8>He didn't relax when it was time to.

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<v Speaker 7>Roll aloud and he and he broke his you know,

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<v Speaker 7>he had to stay away from her.

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<v Speaker 8>So he was playing voicemails. I don't know if you knew.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like voicemails being played on one of his mixtapes.

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<v Speaker 8>They made him remove it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, bro, you need to be quiet right now

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<v Speaker 4>and remorseful.

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<v Speaker 7>Essentially, what you're in court for is to prove that

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<v Speaker 7>you are a human being that's you know, privileged to

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<v Speaker 7>be out here in the world. But when you're doing

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<v Speaker 7>all these things outside of court, when you come in,

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<v Speaker 7>you just looked at as a minute, So it doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>matter how good of a lawyer that you have.

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<v Speaker 1>They looking at you. It's like, okay, you're you.

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<v Speaker 7>You want to convince the jury that you're innocent and

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<v Speaker 7>you're not capable of.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing something like that.

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<v Speaker 7>But when we looking on the internet, it's suing that

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<v Speaker 7>you know, allegedly you punched August House Scene in the

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<v Speaker 7>face and you have said that you.

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't, and that kind of came That's what really affected him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he denied it fully, and then the clip came out

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<v Speaker 5>and it was like toy, what.

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<v Speaker 6>The yeah, and then he said that he would be

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<v Speaker 6>proven innocent.

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<v Speaker 4>That was one of his last tweets or something.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I stopped really giving my opinion on social

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<v Speaker 5>media because I was following following it like everybody else.

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<v Speaker 8>But when she said that they.

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<v Speaker 5>Were never sexual and that I promise you, that's when

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<v Speaker 5>I really was like, I went and took a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of tweets and I was like, let me just sit

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<v Speaker 5>back and just shut.

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<v Speaker 4>Up because you were staying with her.

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<v Speaker 5>At first, I was like, she's sleep with him, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe this was a reaction of a man being jealous

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever and being rejected. But when the courts proved

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<v Speaker 5>that they had been, you know, together, I was like, Amy,

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<v Speaker 5>shut up, don't even talk about this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was such a weird trial.

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<v Speaker 8>This is crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think, you know, I think it's sat on

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<v Speaker 7>both parts man, because you know, Megan, this is something

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<v Speaker 7>she's gonna have to deal with the rest of her

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<v Speaker 7>life and her career. And we got to see another

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<v Speaker 7>black man, unfortunately, go to prison.

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<v Speaker 4>Career.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he still has a chance. He's getting I just

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<v Speaker 5>saw he's getting out. I think at forty seven, if

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<v Speaker 5>he does the full time, he gonna do the full time.

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<v Speaker 8>No celebrity ever does the even a few years away

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<v Speaker 8>from your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>When it's like, oh, one.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing, we do know for sure, he going he going

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<v Speaker 4>back to Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh deported.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh he is going back and as you're done here,

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<v Speaker 6>you're going back to Canada, buddy, they're not even about

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<v Speaker 6>to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't wish prison on no old body.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, no, especially team.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it.

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<v Speaker 7>I watched too many crazy prison stuff did you see

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<v Speaker 7>in movies? And I was like, that's not the place

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<v Speaker 7>that I think anybody should should be living here.

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<v Speaker 5>And then when you're coming from such a successful life

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<v Speaker 5>and on a fight all the money, imagine, it's different

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<v Speaker 5>being a mall time millionaire going.

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<v Speaker 6>To prison, and it's different being black going to prison

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<v Speaker 6>because I'm pretty sure his experience isn't the same as

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<v Speaker 6>Chris Lee's.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh no, but you know he's gonna he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 7>what I was reading about it. He's going to be

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<v Speaker 7>in higher power, which is protective custody, So he's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be on lockdown majority of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Tori. Yeah, Oh I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, when you're a celebrity, you know, is that good

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<v Speaker 7>or bad?

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<v Speaker 5>All them years on lockdown and I don't know. They

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<v Speaker 5>put me out there with the wolves. I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 5>to be in my little corner cubicle on.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, because imagine you've been locked down for like ninety

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<v Speaker 7>percent of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 6>Another sad case man, Raven Simone was encouraged to get

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<v Speaker 6>surgery by her father.

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<v Speaker 9>Had two breast productions in lipol before I turned eighteen.

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<v Speaker 9>My dad suggested strongly that I should get my breast reduced.

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<v Speaker 4>He was like, so you don't feel bad?

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<v Speaker 9>Is there anything you want? I was like what I

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<v Speaker 9>was like, Yeah, if I get lightpol people stop calling

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<v Speaker 9>me fat.

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<v Speaker 8>That's sick.

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<v Speaker 4>That is sick.

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<v Speaker 7>That six that's so sad man. It's like people don't

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<v Speaker 7>even allow people to be people. People who cares about

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<v Speaker 7>somebody being fat or skinned or big or tall.

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<v Speaker 8>And your dad is pushing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is her father telling her some stuff like that

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<v Speaker 1>before eighteen?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like because she was She had a hit TV

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<v Speaker 6>show That's all Raven.

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<v Speaker 4>This is that's so Raven days.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, yeah, she.

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<v Speaker 7>But nobody, nobody on that show ever thought she was fat,

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<v Speaker 7>like I watched her, But she said.

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<v Speaker 4>She was being told that so Hollywood, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, she looked like my cousin I was growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>That was normal for us.

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<v Speaker 4>Looking at her, It's just like Jennifer Husband.

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<v Speaker 6>She said she didn't know, she was fat until she

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<v Speaker 6>left Chicago, till she left.

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<v Speaker 1>Her comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we we don't see it as that, but

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<v Speaker 6>you know, when Raven was hot. She first off, she's

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<v Speaker 6>a child star. But when she really you know, came

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<v Speaker 6>and peaked, that's so Raven. You's got to think about it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, he had all the skinny girls at that time.

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<v Speaker 8>They were trying to under one hundred pounds.

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<v Speaker 4>Guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like everybody in Hollywood, skinny.

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<v Speaker 5>Especially but especially trying to be are killing themselves to

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<v Speaker 5>become skinny like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Beyonce was skinny back then, you know, going on dice

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<v Speaker 6>to look a certain way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, that was that time. Now they're trying to look thicker.

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<v Speaker 1>Time has changed.

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<v Speaker 8>Time has changed.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the big girl supermodels now.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's why you shouldn't be helped telling kids to

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<v Speaker 5>change their body so early, because look how times have

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<v Speaker 5>changed where you at one point, obviously the BBO was

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<v Speaker 5>like the big thing in our community. Now if you

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<v Speaker 5>look all those celebrities that people went and followed, they're

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<v Speaker 5>going back to being slim, They're going back to being fit,

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<v Speaker 5>and now people are starving themselves to go back to it.

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<v Speaker 7>Like when I was growing up, I didn't even know

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<v Speaker 7>nothing about what surgery was.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought surgery was like if you broke your leg,

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<v Speaker 1>me too, you know what I'm saying, me too.

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<v Speaker 7>That was like these kids nowadays, and you know, middle

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<v Speaker 7>school in high school, they know what like bbl yea.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never know what any of those things were.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's social media.

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<v Speaker 5>We're in a time where we are just overdoing a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm around so many girls, they just change so quick

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<v Speaker 5>in front of me, and it's it's social media.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, there's a lot of girls changing on

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<v Speaker 6>Lizzo right now because six more girls have come out

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<v Speaker 6>and uh said that she created a hostile work environment

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<v Speaker 6>and some of the new complaints saying that she's failed

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<v Speaker 6>to pay them all. These employees worked on her watch

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<v Speaker 6>Out for the Big Girls Amazon series and her tour.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they looking a game from this situation? Because

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<v Speaker 1>some money, some money. So Lizzo just paid these people.

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<v Speaker 1>So they go away once.

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<v Speaker 5>She starts doing that, and it's like, Okay, she's just

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<v Speaker 5>gonna pay out.

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<v Speaker 1>If she's stills salegations are wild.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think if she starts setting with people, they're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna think it's true.

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<v Speaker 5>It is, yeah, but if you don't pay them is

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<v Speaker 5>giving It's like she's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna get dragged out.

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<v Speaker 7>Like you don't what always wonder This is what always

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<v Speaker 7>wondered every time we look up and we see like,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, celebrities, they're they're getting suit or allegations.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is always like it's twenty more people just come

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<v Speaker 1>out of.

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<v Speaker 5>The everybody's vocal suddenly everybody's That's the part that makes

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<v Speaker 5>it always sketchy for me because I'm like, dude, where

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<v Speaker 5>were you if this happened to you a year ago?

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<v Speaker 8>Why are you speaking of now?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, finally somebody use their voice while I'm feeling, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>brave enough to do it all twenty of y'all.

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<v Speaker 7>And I mean, if she did do that, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I hope they get I hope they get paid, and

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<v Speaker 7>I hope they get taken care of it. If they

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<v Speaker 7>really were in a hostile environment and you know, they

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<v Speaker 7>were forced to do things that they didn't want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just one time.

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<v Speaker 5>For me to feel like what these girls are seeing,

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<v Speaker 5>where was some sexual weirdness going on? I'm dismissing myself

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<v Speaker 5>and you don't got a worry about me?

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<v Speaker 1>Coming back.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm suing you because you got your one time to

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<v Speaker 5>put me in that position.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were a legend.

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<v Speaker 8>They just kept dealing with it.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's the part is like when is y'all where's

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<v Speaker 5>y'all accountability? If you kept coming with your crazy tell self,

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<v Speaker 5>you kept showing up, and it was just it got

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<v Speaker 5>to the point it was unbearable.

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<v Speaker 8>You didn't have to come back after the first time.

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<v Speaker 7>If your boss did anything and told you to do

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<v Speaker 7>something that you were not comfortable doing, you have every

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<v Speaker 7>opportunity to.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave, every opportunity I had to.

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<v Speaker 7>I had to touch a dick and I like and

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<v Speaker 7>then they probably touched that dick and was like, I

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<v Speaker 7>probably get I could probably suit this bitch for having

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<v Speaker 7>to touch.

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<v Speaker 5>This dick because I'm just trying to see why did

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<v Speaker 5>Why would Lizzeo have had to be so hands on

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<v Speaker 5>to be like, come here, you're gonna touch this?

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<v Speaker 8>Like what's it?

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<v Speaker 4>Your team trying to hang out with her, like trying

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<v Speaker 4>to be cool.

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<v Speaker 6>And the thing is they don't know the difference, like

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not your friend, your boss, but.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of a lot of a lot of these

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<v Speaker 7>like these workers they be trying to get with these

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<v Speaker 7>celebrities and be hanging around.

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<v Speaker 1>They like, damn, this nigga smoke crack. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that he tried to give me to smoke some cracks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you gotta work. And then don't go with

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<v Speaker 1>your boss.

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<v Speaker 7>Don't hang out and have cocktails with your body fragnizing.

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<v Speaker 8>That's that's the real problem.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back with more of the Baller Alert Show.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to a special edition of the Baller Alert Show.

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<v Speaker 8>What's Up?

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<v Speaker 5>Y'all's Amy Luciani and you are now tuned into.

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<v Speaker 1>The Baller Alert Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Back with more of the Butler Alert Show. Amy Luciani

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<v Speaker 4>hanging out with us.

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<v Speaker 1>What Up? Alert? And we've been doing some talking going on.

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<v Speaker 5>We've been I'm on my mind. I'm just thinking all

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<v Speaker 5>this mass is going on in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but now it's all about you, man.

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<v Speaker 6>We want to know a little bit more about Amy

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<v Speaker 6>l Yes, are you half Italian?

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<v Speaker 5>Or where's I am? Fully black baby? Okay with an

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<v Speaker 5>Italian stage name? Okay, but it's it's the story behind

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<v Speaker 5>it all right, Well, let us know where that came from.

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<v Speaker 1>First?

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<v Speaker 4>Where are you from Detroit?

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<v Speaker 5>You said, Yep, I've been in Atlanta for some years,

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<v Speaker 5>just pursuing the music, really just working my business, working

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<v Speaker 5>my brand. My government name is Ambarrolls, reallytic, yeah, hyphen a.

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<v Speaker 5>That's my first name, the real Ambarrolls. So I always

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<v Speaker 5>tell people, like so many people are confused when they

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<v Speaker 5>watch my Instagram or different platforms I'm on and my

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<v Speaker 5>original og fans that's been here from the beginning, They'll

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<v Speaker 5>be like, oh, I love that Ambrose or Ambrose, you

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<v Speaker 5>look so pretty at that and people like this, I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>why do you call her Ambrose?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm so confused. I'm like, see, y'all don't even know.

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<v Speaker 8>You don't even know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's no middle name, just ambar Rolls.

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<v Speaker 8>My grandmother's name is Rose Marie.

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<v Speaker 5>When Ambrose was like really popping and really like doing

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<v Speaker 5>her thing, this around Kanye time, I was doing a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of musical shows and open mic. This is like

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<v Speaker 5>the first stage of being a rapper. Like I'm in Detroit,

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah no, I was in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>I moved here right out of high school.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So I was just doing a lot of performances.

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<v Speaker 5>And of course it's my government name, so it's Ambrose

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<v Speaker 5>on all the flyers, and it would be so many

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<v Speaker 5>awkward positions where I would be in, like where people

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<v Speaker 5>might show up at different events and be like I

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<v Speaker 5>saw the name of Ambar rolls on here, like you're black,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so confused. Who were you? And I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 5>my name? What's this other girl named Ambrose? And I

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<v Speaker 5>start getting hip to her and I'm like what the hell?

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<v Speaker 5>And from there, I was sitting there and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so tired of asking, i mean, being being asked

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<v Speaker 5>a question like why are you going with the name Ambrose?

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<v Speaker 8>Why'd you copy this girl from?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 8>And I just got tired of pulling out the id,

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<v Speaker 8>like now, what were you saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Baby? So that's what made you say?

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<v Speaker 5>That's not her real name, No, shade, that's not her

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<v Speaker 5>real name. So I'm like, I'm copying the name.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not even her name.

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<v Speaker 5>This is my government name. So one day I just

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<v Speaker 5>came up with the artist's name. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, let's switch it up, let's do a little

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<v Speaker 5>quick reinvention.

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<v Speaker 4>How'd you come with Amy?

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 5>I was always giving guys the name Amy in the club,

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<v Speaker 5>just like if I don't want to talk to him,

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<v Speaker 5>I was always Amy, So that was your alter ego. Always,

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<v Speaker 5>so many guys like you remember me Amy? I know

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<v Speaker 5>that was something I was ignoring. If a dude used

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<v Speaker 5>to say Amy to me, I knew I wasn't interest.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd be like you called me? What that was the that.

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<v Speaker 5>Was the yeah, or dude saying like hey Amy and

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<v Speaker 5>so and so like oh, I definitely not really want

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<v Speaker 5>to get him my number. So Amy was always a

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<v Speaker 5>funny thing with me and my friends like Amy. They

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<v Speaker 5>bring me to somebody like, yeah, you told me you're

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<v Speaker 5>you're Amy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, friend, I'm Amy. That's my name.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we all do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't you do.

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<v Speaker 4>Different names though.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing that women do.

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<v Speaker 8>It's a thing we do when we don't want to

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<v Speaker 8>be friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Know where you're going? Who are you gonna be? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I beat this, I'm all right. I never knew that.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh it's the thing. C B T.

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<v Speaker 1>You look good.

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<v Speaker 5>You know you probably wasn't getting that. We was giving

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<v Speaker 5>that to guys in the club for sure, So what's

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<v Speaker 5>the aim. I'd be like, oh, hey, sometimes I forget myself.

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<v Speaker 5>So when I was thinking of yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody ain't seen that Living single episode where Max gave

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<v Speaker 6>her name as Chakuan, and the dude was like, Shaquan.

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<v Speaker 4>You gonna ignore me all night.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm lame.

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<v Speaker 8>I haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 5>Either, Okay, I gotta watch I haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't don't take all black car now take it because

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<v Speaker 8>I still haven't. I'm not going there. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 8>a movie that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that was U.

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<v Speaker 5>That's living that's a show. Yeah, but it's a movie

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't seen. If I told y'all, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>tell us, y'all would take her.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I haven't seen Best Men. Oh are boys in

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<v Speaker 5>the Hood yet?

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't seen boys in the hood.

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<v Speaker 4>She's giving amy.

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<v Speaker 1>She's definitely given amy.

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<v Speaker 5>And if I react like that, I haven't seen boys

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<v Speaker 5>in the Hood yet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a classic.

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<v Speaker 5>I tried to y'all, try to literally try to sit

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<v Speaker 5>and watch it. Something always happened. I never can watch

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<v Speaker 5>the like.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you'll see a lot of the stars in

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<v Speaker 1>there that are that are like.

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<v Speaker 6>Starch Chestnut and all the start. You know, she don't

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<v Speaker 6>seen Best Men.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I haven't seen best You could play that

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<v Speaker 1>game before.

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<v Speaker 8>Fox, Yeah I have seen that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna take gonna take back in the day.

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<v Speaker 4>You wasn't watching movies.

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<v Speaker 5>Girl, I've been doing the music since a kid, literally

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<v Speaker 5>on TV doing this. My mom did not play. We

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<v Speaker 5>was me and my sisters were in a singing group.

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<v Speaker 8>We were on a tour.

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<v Speaker 5>We used to be the open act for five Wow

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<v Speaker 5>Maine dupri B two k Entrance was four little middle

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<v Speaker 5>schoolers wrapping Detroit, all four of us. So I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>get to really see a lot of the stuff. But

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I sit down sometime and when friends tell me, like, girl,

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<v Speaker 5>ain't no way you haven't heard this or watch this,

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<v Speaker 5>I'll sit down and catch up.

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<v Speaker 8>But I'm typically late to a lot of Yeah, mama

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<v Speaker 8>was Joe or something. She was definitely yes, And that's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom name is last name was Jackson and first

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<v Speaker 5>name started with a J. So people my friends used

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<v Speaker 5>to be like, your mom is scary, she's Joe Jackson.

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<v Speaker 8>Like, are y'all still up there rehearsing? Yes, we still

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<v Speaker 8>are Wow.

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<v Speaker 7>But really that's good because listening to your story, it

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<v Speaker 7>kind of reminds me of like Coco Jones story, right,

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<v Speaker 7>Like how she was talking about how long she was

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<v Speaker 7>doing music and stuff like that. And it really just

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<v Speaker 7>shows you how long it actually takes to actually really

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<v Speaker 7>do this business.

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<v Speaker 5>It is not something that happens overnight. I just posted

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<v Speaker 5>a clip of my sisters and I on the Jenny

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<v Speaker 5>Jones Show.

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<v Speaker 8>I was twelve. I was twelve performing and.

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<v Speaker 5>So when someone sent in they said, ayy is this

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<v Speaker 5>you on this show? And I'm like, I was sewing beers.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh my god, yes that was me

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<v Speaker 5>and your sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are they at? Do they still do music?

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<v Speaker 5>So I will always tell people it doesn't happen overnight,

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<v Speaker 5>Like the success, don't even put a date on it.

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<v Speaker 5>If you really love what you're doing, is just gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you sitting there like I'm giving myself the

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<v Speaker 5>next summer to become a baby, you and ron business already,

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<v Speaker 5>you already starting wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>So did your mom push you to go to Atlanta

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<v Speaker 4>to still do music?

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<v Speaker 1>She did.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom still manages me to this day. I'm still

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<v Speaker 5>my mama jer for all my sisters. One is a

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<v Speaker 5>tattoo artist, one is a set in design creative person.

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<v Speaker 5>So my mom definitely I told her right out of

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<v Speaker 5>high school, like, yeah, I'm leaving Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way I'm gonna be here, like trying to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Great, and she was like, oh, you should go, and

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<v Speaker 5>then she moved the same year here. Okay, so now

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<v Speaker 5>we are all Now all of us are here, all your sisters,

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<v Speaker 5>all of us.

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<v Speaker 4>That's support right there. A lot of people don't get that.

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<v Speaker 8>My mom day one support.

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<v Speaker 1>So finding your.

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<v Speaker 4>Footing in music, what was the what was that breakthrough moment?

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<v Speaker 5>I would say the breakthrough moment for me was really

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<v Speaker 5>when I stopped trying to go after a deal and

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<v Speaker 5>really like, have these goals of I'm gonna sign to

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<v Speaker 5>this person. I was putting too much on the calendar

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<v Speaker 5>of like dates and timelines and deadlines, And when I

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<v Speaker 5>stopped doing that and was like, no, you're just gonna

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<v Speaker 5>go out there.

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<v Speaker 8>You're gonna be a music artist.

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<v Speaker 5>You're gonna meet people on network and let it come

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<v Speaker 5>to you versus I think every independent artist or artist

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<v Speaker 5>at that has a moment where it's like you feel

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<v Speaker 5>this little desperation you've been doing it for a minute.

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<v Speaker 5>You kind of felt like, no, like I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 5>ahead and sign to them. I'm a When I stopped

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<v Speaker 5>looking at things like deadline dates, kind of I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like things change.

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<v Speaker 8>So now everything I do is like, this is what

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<v Speaker 8>I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna come to me.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like everything changed in my career.

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<v Speaker 5>When I stop, I say being thirsty for it, but

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<v Speaker 5>people say, heyman, you've never been thirsty.

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<v Speaker 8>But I felt that I wanted it too bad at

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<v Speaker 8>one point and I was like, dang.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like putting these dates and stuff. And I met

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<v Speaker 5>a person they were like, just do it. Stop trying

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<v Speaker 5>to put a date and cap a date on what's

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<v Speaker 5>going to happen. You love doing this, girl, Just wake

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<v Speaker 5>up and do it. And I feel like that's what

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<v Speaker 5>just changed everything for me.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what a lot of the Grace talk about as well,

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<v Speaker 7>about how people are, you know, they want to be

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<v Speaker 7>successful in this business so bad bad, and they forget

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<v Speaker 7>to like have fun, enjoy it. I think about the money,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think about those things because those things are

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<v Speaker 7>going to eventually come.

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<v Speaker 1>But I forgot who posted this on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 7>Somebody said, if you're not willing to be broke for

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<v Speaker 7>ten years, then don't get into the entertainment business. This

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<v Speaker 7>is true, and that was probably the realist quote that

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<v Speaker 7>I've ever seen about the the entertainment business.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, if you know as an artist, what we really

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<v Speaker 5>go through, like one hundred doors to get one. The

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<v Speaker 5>average person can't take one hundred doors. It just breaks

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<v Speaker 5>their hun My bad. Yeah, a lot of people cannot

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<v Speaker 5>take a hundred no's. It feels like, Okay, you have

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<v Speaker 5>a moment in your career, like maybe this ain't for me,

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<v Speaker 5>but the ones that make it and they really go

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<v Speaker 5>and have these long careers, I'll be sitting there like

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<v Speaker 5>I have nothing bad to say because to make it

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<v Speaker 5>that far, trust me, they sent a lot of meetings

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<v Speaker 5>where they were told not good enough, not pretty enough,

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<v Speaker 5>or he doesn't look good. And to make it, it's

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<v Speaker 5>like if you knew what we go through, to break

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit of a stride is not an easy

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<v Speaker 5>thing to do. So I just got so much respect

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<v Speaker 5>for a lot of artists. That's why I don't really

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<v Speaker 5>pick the size on this girl that Nikki's the Cardi's.

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<v Speaker 1>So that doesn't That doesn't upset you.

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<v Speaker 7>Know you don't feel like the industry is like colorists, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I do, but.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't let it upset me. Yeah, Like I'm so different.

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<v Speaker 5>The industry is very colorless, But I don't cry about

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<v Speaker 5>it because I live it every day. Every day I

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<v Speaker 5>wake up like this. I deal with it on so

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<v Speaker 5>many levels. But it's been happening so long that I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like to start crying and complaining and overshadowing the

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<v Speaker 5>music and what I'm here to do with the blogs

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<v Speaker 5>eating up And he's talking about colorism again, like I've

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<v Speaker 5>already talked about it.

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<v Speaker 8>People were like agreeing.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of big celebrities like right, and like, girl,

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<v Speaker 5>I've been through that. Keep your head up now. It's

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<v Speaker 5>like you just gotta live around it and in it.

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<v Speaker 5>But it is a real thing in.

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<v Speaker 7>The industry, so you really feel like the labels are

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<v Speaker 7>pushing light skin rappers or.

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<v Speaker 5>For sure the numbers, the numbers prove it's a historic thing.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not a new thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a historic thing that lighter looks brighter and looks

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<v Speaker 5>more appealing to the eye, and it looks more endorsable

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<v Speaker 5>and more. It's true, you're gonna get maybe you have

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<v Speaker 5>to get like one or two token black girls that

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<v Speaker 5>really wrap in the game.

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<v Speaker 8>Every so a couple of years, every couple of years, but.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so many more of us that are so talented,

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<v Speaker 5>and the conversation like why isn't so and so made

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<v Speaker 5>and so and so, she's so talent talented, I'd be

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<v Speaker 5>sitting there looking like I can assure you right now,

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<v Speaker 5>if she bleached herself just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>When a little blonde and did a little.

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<v Speaker 5>Lighter, you will see a stride start happening little by little.

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<v Speaker 1>It's factual.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, you share an experience of a color situation that

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<v Speaker 6>you've personally dealt.

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<v Speaker 5>With, Oh for sure, I'll share two actually, but one

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<v Speaker 5>quick one. The first one that I encountered. It was like,

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<v Speaker 5>WHOA a few years ago when I was doing like

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<v Speaker 5>I would do video girl work, meaning on a professional level,

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<v Speaker 5>if they needed a video model, I had a person.

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<v Speaker 8>It was kind of booking me and I would go.

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<v Speaker 5>And I remember one particular video I was invited out

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<v Speaker 5>and it was a bunch of girls there and this

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<v Speaker 5>is like one of the biggest rappers in the world

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<v Speaker 5>still to this day. And I remember being in the

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<v Speaker 5>back and it was me and it was about two

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<v Speaker 5>other One girl was my color, but one was probably

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<v Speaker 5>dark as this mic, but she was just gorgeous, drop

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<v Speaker 5>that dead gorgeous, right, And I remember kind of being

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<v Speaker 5>in the back and they had sub sandwiches for everybody,

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<v Speaker 5>and we have to be in this one area where

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<v Speaker 5>you can hear this. The artist when he walked on

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<v Speaker 5>the set, he said it. It was not he tried

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<v Speaker 5>to hide it. He didn't try to whisper it. He

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<v Speaker 5>came on, was like, where the other girls at? Where

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<v Speaker 5>the rest of the girls at the red Where the

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<v Speaker 5>red girls at? You already know what I told y'all

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<v Speaker 5>to bring. They were like, we have a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 5>We have only like five brown skinned girl. He straight

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<v Speaker 5>up was like, they're not doing get the girls. I

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<v Speaker 5>asked for her to come and not hear. The girl like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know she was an assistant, I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>who she was, but we can hear. We were right

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<v Speaker 5>there on the set, but we're kind of away, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sitting there eating the sandwich like.

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<v Speaker 1>He ain't even trying to whisper this.

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<v Speaker 5>And the girls were like, we're used to this, and

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<v Speaker 5>I said, it's sad, I've never encountered this. But the

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<v Speaker 5>girl dark like this was like I deal with it

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<v Speaker 5>every video I pop.

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<v Speaker 8>Up too, And I was like, you still do it.

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<v Speaker 8>He literally was like, this ain't what I asked for.

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<v Speaker 5>Where's the light skinned girls, like one or two of

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<v Speaker 5>them can stay, but all five of them no. I

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<v Speaker 5>had never heard that before, and I'm thinking I ain't

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<v Speaker 5>even that dark. But if I was, they dismissed us

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<v Speaker 5>off to say, I promise you.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>First of all, we sat for about two hours, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was sitting there like I should really get up

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<v Speaker 5>and leave myself. But just being transparent, I was broke

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<v Speaker 5>around that time. I had bills, we were getting paid

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<v Speaker 5>a decent check, and I'm like, I'm gonna see this

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<v Speaker 5>through because I need the money. But a little bit

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<v Speaker 5>of me sat there and was just like, this is

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<v Speaker 5>disgusting that we're here dealing with this and this person

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<v Speaker 5>is blacker than me.

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<v Speaker 1>This artist is darker than me.

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<v Speaker 8>Who said it two times darker than me? And I

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<v Speaker 8>just was like, dang, for sure, And.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm pretty sure you probably was a fan of them,

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<v Speaker 7>and then it probably kind of turned you off with

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<v Speaker 7>their music.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, I was definitely turned if I don't listen to

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<v Speaker 5>this artist to this day. And this artist has said

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<v Speaker 5>several things out loud about brown skinned women and liking

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<v Speaker 5>them read better. He's still doing it to this day.

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<v Speaker 5>But I stopped being a fan years ago. But to

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<v Speaker 5>see when I see like black women still like common

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<v Speaker 5>and supporting them. I just be still confused. But again,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a lane rider. I know how to shut my mouth,

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<v Speaker 5>but I know I don't support.

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<v Speaker 8>Them at all.

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<v Speaker 5>So another time I was had opportunity through an agency

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<v Speaker 5>I was with that they were looking for a model

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<v Speaker 5>to be like on a book cover. It was a

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<v Speaker 5>black author and they were the agency. You know, they

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<v Speaker 5>pulled me in a couple of girls, and they accidentally

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<v Speaker 5>put me in the wrong email chat where the person

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<v Speaker 5>who book it was his agency hit the agency or

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<v Speaker 5>the manager was like, he does not want a brown

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<v Speaker 5>skinned girl like he wants blazing.

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<v Speaker 8>He wants a black and agent, you know, a girl

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<v Speaker 8>that's mixed.

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<v Speaker 5>And everybody in the chat voted me to be on

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<v Speaker 5>the cover of the book.

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<v Speaker 8>I promise you.

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<v Speaker 5>They were like, we don't care what all these people

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<v Speaker 5>and it's chatter saying he does not want a brownskin

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<v Speaker 5>girl on here. And this was again a person who

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<v Speaker 5>was two times darker than me. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>how did I It was several girls going for the

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<v Speaker 5>book opportunity. However, that went and I was excited because

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<v Speaker 5>after weeks of them doing a negotiation, when they added

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<v Speaker 5>me to the email, they were like, Amy, they picked you,

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<v Speaker 5>like everybody on here wanted you.

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<v Speaker 8>And then a person came in.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure she meant to send it separately, but she

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<v Speaker 5>went into the email and was like, he does not

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<v Speaker 5>want a brown skin girl on the cover.

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<v Speaker 8>Like we made that clear.

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<v Speaker 5>And next thing, you know, next day I got to text, sorry, Amy,

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<v Speaker 5>you know we all picked you, but they want to

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<v Speaker 5>go a different ride.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, I was on the email. I saw

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<v Speaker 8>you weren't supposed to be on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, oh, that's weird, but okay, I just

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<v Speaker 8>got to learn to live around it for real food.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's the thing is very real.

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<v Speaker 6>And does that make you feel any type of way

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<v Speaker 6>towards lighter skin people.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 5>If anything, makes me feel sad for us as a community,

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<v Speaker 5>because this is been something we've been dealing with for

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<v Speaker 5>a long time. This isn't an overnight conversation. It's one

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 5>of them conversations that when people have it, us brown

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 5>skinned girls kind of look like crybabies, sort of save face.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of us don't talk about it, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>a conversation that if you probably put ten dark skinned

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<v Speaker 5>women in the room some of the stories will be

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<v Speaker 5>probably horrific of how they tried to pin us against

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<v Speaker 5>when it's like, my mentality is, you can be dark skinned,

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<v Speaker 5>light skin, white brown.

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<v Speaker 8>And be beautiful.

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<v Speaker 5>You can be light skin and not be that appealing

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<v Speaker 5>to the eyes. You can be dark skin and not

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<v Speaker 5>be appealing. But it's sad that it's our community that

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<v Speaker 5>does it. You don't hear white people saying it. You

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<v Speaker 5>don't hear even really Caribbean people. It's more of us,

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<v Speaker 5>that conversation of she's lighter, she looks better. It's not

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<v Speaker 5>even other ethnicity saying it. So to me, it's like,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I just try to be more inclusive

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<v Speaker 5>with my music. I do a lot of music big

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<v Speaker 5>and brown skinned women up. I have been on the

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<v Speaker 5>chopping block for that. I just recently ended up on

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<v Speaker 5>a blog for a comment that I responded to a

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 5>song I put out, and the girl said, it's funny

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 5>that you only put dark skinned women in the video.

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 5>You're being just how you're saying people are. But my

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 5>thought process was typically, y'all wonn't putting none of them

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 5>in the video. I made sure I put all of them,

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 5>and I purposely put some girls that weren't what you

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 5>would call a fine girl. Some of them was big,

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 5>some of them had what people would consider nappy hair.

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 5>I was like, I love it. I want you to

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<v Speaker 5>be in a video with your afro and on. And

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 5>people were like, where are the light skin girls? Where

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 5>are the white girls? You're really the prejudice one. And

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, listen, you can't win this war, but I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to make them feel beautiful for a time in

0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 5>a video. And I did it, and I felt good

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 5>looking at the video, like they deserve a shine and

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 5>be made to feel pretty, even if the world is

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:59.080
<v Speaker 5>saying they're not so child, I'm doing it for us.

0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm in the a black woman experience. I'm a dark

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 5>skinned girl with regular black woman hair under this wig,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm doing it for us. My experience isn'ten of

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<v Speaker 5>white women or of light skiin so my music does

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 5>typically be black girl puts you know, keep your head up,

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 5>nappy head, black girl, The hair is beautiful. I have

0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 5>to say it because I live the experience of people

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 5>don't say it to us enough, So.

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<v Speaker 8>Why would I not say it in my music?

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean?

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 5>I don't really understand how people will be confused with

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 5>me sometime when I'm like, you're black and beautiful, and

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 5>I say it all the time, and.

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 8>It's like, what about us.

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm not talking about y'all right now, I'm talking about

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 5>what I'm seeing, and y'all need to see the reflection

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 5>of how I look.

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 8>You know, you look beautiful. Oh you can't win that.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically right now. I think that's part of being a

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 4>change you.

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 6>Want to see, you know, and with you're doing that

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 6>in your music and stuff like that, and it's just

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 6>amazing to see how you persevere through all that and

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 6>becoming a success that you are today.

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 4>And that is very commend you to that.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 6>Thank you was one of your what was your successful moment?

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 4>Like the moment that you was like, Okay, I got

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 4>it now.

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 5>I would say my first successful moment would be my

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 5>first big writing session. A lot of people to know

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 5>I wrote for people, but you know in that that

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 5>part of the industry, you can't really be as vocal

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.040
<v Speaker 5>like hey, I wrote her song like my Name is on.

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 5>So I felt really good that I always wanted to

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 5>write for a big artists And when I got a

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 5>call to be in a writing session with four of

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 5>like some of the biggest songwriters in our area. Like

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 5>when I called, I kind of felt like I am

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 5>not supposed to be in this room.

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>It was.

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 5>It was crazy when I got there, and that was

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 5>my first time my career feeling like, oh my god,

0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 5>it's actually you are being heard. Sometimes it feels like

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 5>you aren't as an independent artist when you haven't made

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 5>it big or the number one record, you know, like

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 5>people say are charting and jen. So when I walked

0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 5>in the room and I sat there and people were like,

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.000
<v Speaker 5>heymy we heard some of your references, we heard some

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 5>of your songs, we heard so and so song. We

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 5>didn't know you wrote that or co wrote it. I

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 5>was like, wow, I didn't even know y'all even knew

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 5>me or were talking about me. So that really encouraged me.

0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 5>They were like, girl, we've been talking about you for

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 5>about two years actually, and I was like, dang, you

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 5>don't really know that some people know you and things.

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 8>My mentality changed.

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 6>I was like, get the stuff that your Did you

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:30.600
<v Speaker 6>have a manager or was it your mom?

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>It was.

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 5>I had a situation where Red Bull Publishing and was

0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 5>sitting down and was negotiating some work with them, and

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 5>two other songwriters shout out to London Jay two, he

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 5>writes to London, Yeah, definitely my homie and that's that's

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 5>like a mentor to me.

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 8>Spart.

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>About a lot of a lot of he is the one.

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 5>He is the one, like London, I do this to

0:32:58.880 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 5>him when I see him, like so shout out to him.

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 8>But yeah.

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 5>I end up in a writing session with him and

0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 5>a couple other people and when they were like, yeah,

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 5>we heard some stuff you wrote. What do you mean

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 5>you're shocked to be here? I was like, I just

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 5>because I haven't had this opportunity before. That changed everything

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 5>for me because I used to From there, I was like,

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 5>you got to stop working and being great to hear

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 5>somebody say we heard it, Amy, because I learned that day.

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:23.840
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes they don't even tell you they heard you, but

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 5>they're hearing you in fans and they were pulling up references,

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 5>like we got this reference in our email with all

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 5>these songwriters months ago and it was you.

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what y'all in LA They're like yes, Amy.

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 8>So from there, I'm like, girl, you are that girl period.

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 4>What can you share some of the artists that you

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 4>wrote for?

0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 5>I can tell you some writing sessions I've been in.

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 5>That's how you have to do that legally. I'm into something. Yeah,

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 5>I can tell you something.

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just you know, just a couple of writing sessions.

0:33:56.360 --> 0:34:01.840
<v Speaker 5>I have been in writing sessions for Cardi B And

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 5>that's I'll leave it at that. That was the huge

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 5>that was my most biggest opportunity. And I was the

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.280
<v Speaker 5>only girl in the room with all the male writers.

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So can you.

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 4>Give us an example of what a writing session is

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 4>like for people.

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 5>Who yes, yes, so a writing session you'll get obviously

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 5>you know your confidential email through whoever you're working with,

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 5>if you have a pub deal or a label deal,

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 5>and they will tell you, like which label is looking

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.320
<v Speaker 5>for songs, and they'll tell you what type of songs

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 5>they're looking for a meaning so and so has a

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.320
<v Speaker 5>ten song album and it's about to come out. The

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:40.720
<v Speaker 5>last two records they wanted to be maybe club boppy

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 5>fun or a deep record. It's like heartbro got dumbed.

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.360
<v Speaker 5>To let you know, and depend on what your writing

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 5>cadence is, you might get the email like, hey, so

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 5>a session coming in.

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 8>You want to be a part of it.

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 5>You don't know who you're walking in there, Like I've

0:34:56.960 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 5>walked in with London j before and been like, what's.

0:34:59.280 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Up, London.

0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 8>I don't know how excited I am.

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:01.960
<v Speaker 1>To be here with you.

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 5>But you don't know who you're coming into, and sometimes

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 5>you don't even know the artists that you're writing for.

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes you might have a publishing deal of a pub

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 5>deal and get in there and it's like, oh, yeah,

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 5>you writing for I don't want to name somebody who

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 5>writes for themselves, but whoever's been vocal about not writing

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.399
<v Speaker 5>for themselves. You might come in and be like, who's

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 5>working on this?

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>That never happens.

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 5>You might come in and be like, I'm real, like

0:35:30.480 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 5>how many songs does she need? Well, they really only

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 5>need one, and it's literally twenty people sometimes trying to

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 5>get theirs.

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:40.760
<v Speaker 1>To people writing on one song. For sure.

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Sean Garrett kind of shared that with us.

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 6>It's like a whole bunch of people and they're just

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 6>like fighting for that on the.

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 5>Album, and sometimes you're not fighting that. That's the sentence

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 5>a chance to be on an album, because sometimes you

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 5>could write the whole verse and when you hear it

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:57.080
<v Speaker 5>and how y'all negotiating work it, it ended up being

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:59.759
<v Speaker 5>you only got one sentence of what you said it

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 5>was dope out of it, and then this other songwriter

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 5>he got the second sentence.

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 8>You're like, damn.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 6>But then you know, the artists want to get their

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 6>their credit too, so they can just take something they

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:11.839
<v Speaker 6>hear and then say, well, I want to rework it like.

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.760
<v Speaker 5>This, and now you're getting them on the split sheet

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.319
<v Speaker 5>always gets real ugly and dirty. You can, and that's

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:22.800
<v Speaker 5>why songwriters are always trying to write.

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 7>I feel like at this point everybody has writers and

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 7>it because you know, some of the biggest I don't

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 7>understand why it's a big deal. Yeah, because when you

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 7>look at some of the biggest artists in the world

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 7>from you know, years ago, like you look at people

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 7>like Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson wasn't writing no song right.

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:45.320
<v Speaker 6>The objective of the music game is to sell records,

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 6>and whatever sells the best is what they want so

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 6>bad you're writing something that sounds like on what's on

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 6>the radio, you're more than likely gonna get that.

0:36:55.280 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 5>Job and you're going to be on like a two

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 5>year run because it's sounds in the end industry where

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 5>it's a moment where it's like everything y'all remember the

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 5>Roscoe Dash moment where everybody it was just a sign

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 5>of music.

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Snap music.

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 5>They're going to send in the power writers that are

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 5>quiet in the back, like, oh, this is what I do.

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 5>I write all the snap the finger type he is.

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 5>It's like a cadence for every type of songwriter. London

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 5>Jay works well with everybody, but he's really good with women,

0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 5>the female rappers. Able to write so much of that

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 5>and he's like the most.

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>That's what I heard.

0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:31.320
<v Speaker 7>I heard, That's what That's why I was like, lont.

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 6>What makes him a beast is because he's selling the records.

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>He's selling the record and if.

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 4>You are making the most money, they want you.

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 5>Every time and he don't miss so so so basically

0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 5>you can write the record and then it can be ten.

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 5>I've been in the session before and it was fourteen

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:51.840
<v Speaker 5>people there and I was just like, oh my god.

0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 5>And when I say they are hungry, they're not in

0:37:54.360 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 5>their plan with you. I had to learn I was

0:37:56.719 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 5>missing opportunities when I started because I'm I'm kind of

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm the humble girl, like I know my power.

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 8>I sit there sometime and be like, you don't even

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 8>know you're talking to sometime.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 5>But I was coming to them sessions so humble, and

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 5>I was saying how aggressive they are and I had

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 5>to learn quick.

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 8>I was like, oh, because I remember I.

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 5>Was in a session one time, my kid, you not

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 5>I opened a moment as a songwriter.

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 8>I went there.

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 5>It was like, lay that part down, that was good,

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 5>we like what you said. I go in there and somebody,

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 5>a guy came in and was like, yeah, they want

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 5>me to say my part, and I was like, what

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 5>come out?

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 8>I came out. They were like, yeah, we like that better,

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 8>so you cancel that part that she said.

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 5>Put his one sentence on there. It was aggressive. They

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 5>was in there like we want the most on this publishing.

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 5>We want to be the one to get the most

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 5>out of it. And you got to be in there

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 5>ready to fight.

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.600
<v Speaker 7>Not literally, yeah, because a lot of people behind the

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 7>scenes they not making money like these artists. You're not

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 7>going to do shows and stuff like that, so your

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 7>only stream of income is like, I gotta get on

0:38:57.400 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 7>this record to get this because it takes you know,

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 7>a while to get paid.

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Is awesome.

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 5>Not only that the producer getting fifty percent of it immediately,

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 5>automatic immediately well and that's what we producers get fifty.

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 6>You break down the split, so it's fifty percent for

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 6>the songwriter, fifty percent for the producer.

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Now imagine ten people writing on that record, like you

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>get ten percent, you get five, y'all.

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<v Speaker 8>That's the five.

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 5>And that's why it's like this big outrage, not even

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 5>just with TV.

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 8>It's a real thing.

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 5>It's not you got ten people on here writing and

0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 5>you getting fifty because you made to B and I'm

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 5>sitting there like you ain't really seeing no money.

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>So what is this beef over songwriters with these females?

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.680
<v Speaker 5>Like the beef is so caddy, and a lot of

0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 5>it is calculated by the labels because the beef sales.

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<v Speaker 8>So before you.

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 5>Drop, if your name was so and so and you

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.439
<v Speaker 5>drop the week before you drop, you're most likely gonna

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.840
<v Speaker 5>be told of beef with me, fall out with me,

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 5>do something weird where it's like, if everybody's talking about you,

0:39:56.520 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 5>that means let me just say if I do Yeah,

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 5>if I'm doing probably one point nine million impressions a week,

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 5>the people who are superstars, they're probably doing twenty million.

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:10.760
<v Speaker 5>If I start a beef with you, that's twenty million

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 5>people now watching to hear the beef, and then.

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>You slide in your record on them.

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 5>It's such a system that it makes they're watching you

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 5>because you're beefing, sliding the album, sliding the new merch,

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 5>slide in the tape to just drop. It's a system

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:26.399
<v Speaker 5>and girls have fallen so deep into it that now

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.320
<v Speaker 5>they're not relying on the lyrics no more like the music.

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 5>It's like I could do some fake beef and go

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 5>number one for real, for real. That's just how the

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 5>game is going, because we're in a time where people

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:39.440
<v Speaker 5>love to see the girls take their heads off, take

0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 5>each other's heads. Think of this, and I always tell people,

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 5>think of all the movies. Think of the movies people

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.280
<v Speaker 5>got Oscars for nobody's mad at them that somebody wrote

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 5>them a movie that got them an Oscar. Nobody's mad

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 5>Like this is hip hop where you got Angela? Bas said,

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 5>you got Hayley Bear, you got all these greats, right

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:01.879
<v Speaker 5>Iola Davis. People wrote these movies for them, They Wakanda

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 5>and they did all of It's sitting there in La

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 5>saying who wrote the best movie for Angela? Who know

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 5>you have never heard that? Them fighting over who wrote

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 5>the scripts for the movies. Why are we talking about

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 5>that in hip hop though? Why is that like the

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 5>big thing with the girls? Like girl, when you get

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 5>mad at somebody and you don't even write, it's.

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, that's that's all.

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.359
<v Speaker 7>That's all the beef that I ever see, Like all

0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.240
<v Speaker 7>the beef that I see on the internet with female

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 7>rappers is all about who writes what.

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 5>And let me say this, I have never had a

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 5>writer for my own music. I've never had I've never

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:39.120
<v Speaker 5>dealt with female that. I've never had one.

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Every female rapper stand on.

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 5>But let me say this though, if the hit come,

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 5>I take my Take me a damn rapper, take me

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 5>a damn writer.

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 8>People are so scared to be real these days. It's scary.

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:54.760
<v Speaker 4>Listen there of the game is a number one.

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Number one record, number one record?

0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:59.240
<v Speaker 5>I think business? Or do you care about the girls

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 5>being like Amy? If I got a number one but

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 5>I once I wrote it, London, J can come right now.

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>And write it. I would be right there rapping it.

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:06.760
<v Speaker 4>People.

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 6>People have to understand that and change with the times.

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 6>Like hip hop is far from you know, the street corners.

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 4>We're in the business office. This is a business.

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying, and we're just trying to

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 6>get the best deals, so I understand that.

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I had two labels.

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 5>Came about three months ago to one of my sessions

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:29.600
<v Speaker 5>at Anywhere at the studio I go to, and I

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.160
<v Speaker 5>went in there and I recorded the song. At first, off,

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 5>I don't even write my music. Oh, I don't write

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 5>at all. And when I came out the label one

0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 5>of the labels, two guys he's like, yeah, that so

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 5>and so was telling me that you're gonna write that

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.520
<v Speaker 5>you started writing two years ago, but we just had

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Speaker 5>to see it because you're a girl.

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:46.799
<v Speaker 8>And I was like, well, damn, what did that mean?

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 5>And they were like, well, we just watched it doesn't

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 5>really happen like that. And I was like, well, how

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 5>does it happen? Because I'm still fairly new to a

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 5>lot of the process with the major female artist, I

0:42:57.480 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 5>haven't been in there one on one to watch it,

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 5>so I'm had to learn from them. And they were like,

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 5>it's typically somebody in there telling them the cadence. No,

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 5>you need to say it like this. You've got to

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 5>raise your hand up a little more to make it

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 5>come out more aggressive. And they were like, we were

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 5>looking through the glass. We were looking for the notebook,

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 5>we were looking for your phone. What are you writing

0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 5>it on?

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 8>I was like, I'm not. I've been rapping since I

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 8>was ten.

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.800
<v Speaker 5>It's like it's kind of my brain at this point.

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:23.760
<v Speaker 5>But I will get me a songwriter.

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I respect it. Take all these.

0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 8>Thoughts out my head and give me that number one record.

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:29.280
<v Speaker 1>So you're like a jay z in a little Wayne,

0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>just going.

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 5>I have been told that, and they feel very pressure.

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 5>Pressure when I do.

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 7>That's dope because you know it's it's really hard. I

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.319
<v Speaker 7>feel like to just like just go in there and

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 7>be like, hey, I'm feeling this and just blurred out

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:45.839
<v Speaker 7>how you feeling and it actually comes out and you

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 7>know it and it's dope.

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 4>How does the payment work as a songwriter.

0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:50.920
<v Speaker 1>It's different.

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 5>So you can have a label if I when I

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.520
<v Speaker 5>say have a label, be signed to a label, or

0:43:56.600 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 5>you can have a publishing deal which is just more

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 5>about the song writing, or you can be like me,

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 5>an independent artist.

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:04.800
<v Speaker 8>Me I've never been signed.

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 5>So when I go into situations, for example, when I

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 5>was dealing with Red Bull, I'm more so focused on

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 5>the points which sometimes are more everlasting then the money,

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:17.000
<v Speaker 5>the little bit of money people are getting. So it's

0:44:17.000 --> 0:44:19.120
<v Speaker 5>basically how they break it down, like you can get

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 5>it for the rest remainder of the song, as long

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:24.359
<v Speaker 5>as you're getting points on the song. It's almost like

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 5>it's like a contract basically saying i might be one

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 5>of the six writers on here, but I'm getting some

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 5>points on this record. The points kind of add up.

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 5>If you keep doing different songs, which I haven't done yet,

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 5>how many points can you get? So it's situational. I've

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 5>had some people who are small time writers, but because

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:47.280
<v Speaker 5>they are have had more of a resume of getting hits,

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 5>some of them get points where they get more points

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:54.880
<v Speaker 5>than like a London jay or a mega songwriter. Because

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 5>it's like, look at my history. I'm not gonna come

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 5>here if y'all don't give me this point or give

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 5>me this percentage.

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 7>It's kind of like the writer strike, right, Like, isn't

0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 7>that what they're essentially fighting for?

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Like they're fighting for residuals.

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 5>And residual that's and the points are residual. God music,

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 5>That's that's it. That's the word I was looking for. Anyway,

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 5>points are residual to the same thing. As a person

0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 5>who wrote a TV show, I don't want to have

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:21.439
<v Speaker 5>a song on why it's on the radio getting money

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.879
<v Speaker 5>and then when it's not popular no more, I don't

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.240
<v Speaker 5>get no more money because it's still gonna play at least.

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>But that's how a year, that's how artists go broke.

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:34.680
<v Speaker 7>After the song is no longer popular, the label is

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 7>still getting paid.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>You ain't getting it's still getting paid.

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:39.920
<v Speaker 7>And it's like when people don't want to hear you

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 7>perform that song anymore, you know, it's kind of like yeah, or.

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 5>You can get smart and be like, no, I'm locking

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:48.040
<v Speaker 5>in long term because this song could a year from

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 5>now end up being on a commercial Chick fil A, GMC.

0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 8>We see it happen.

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 5>But a lot of the people who didn't know how

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 5>to negotiate points, or didn't have a deal or somebody

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 5>trust to represent them, they just coming in a situation like.

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 8>I'll take that.

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:06.239
<v Speaker 5>I'll take that forty thousand or twenty thousand. And it's

0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.319
<v Speaker 5>like if you had got the points on the.

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Red forever, how many points did you get from a

0:46:11.200 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 4>CARTI This.

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Is legal stuff, okay, legal stuff.

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 4>Okay, but it wasn't nice.

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:20.319
<v Speaker 5>Was it a no, And let me clarify the song

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:21.760
<v Speaker 5>session that I did for Cardi.

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 8>My verse didn't get put on that album.

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:26.280
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so I didn't get no points from the CARTI,

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:30.680
<v Speaker 5>but I was a writer on the whole project, but.

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.120
<v Speaker 4>My particular tire project.

0:46:33.200 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 1>No so and it don't go like that either.

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 5>So basically, when they came to Atlanta, they put that

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:42.000
<v Speaker 5>Atlanta writers. They had sessions for her in California as well.

0:46:42.400 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 5>They do this well, not just Cardi, all the artists,

0:46:44.360 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 5>you know. I don't want to just single her out,

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:50.000
<v Speaker 5>but in the Atlanta writing session, it was about eleven

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 5>of us there. I knew then, like I hope I

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 5>just get a sentence on this song. I didn't know

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 5>coming in it was gonna be that many people anyway,

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 5>But this is the game. So I didn't expect in

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:03.479
<v Speaker 5>that situation, seeing London and seeing all these big people,

0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.280
<v Speaker 5>me even really getting a point on the record. If anything,

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 5>I would have took the money at that point because

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 5>I wasn't. I'm just real, I wasn't the biggest person

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:16.279
<v Speaker 5>in writing for celebrities, but I was getting there from

0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 5>people talking about different situations that I had wrote for people.

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 1>But so as a work for hire basically.

0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 5>And I'm independent, so like London and other people, they

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 5>have situations. So when he coming in, I already know,

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.359
<v Speaker 5>like I don't have a person representing me where it's

0:47:31.360 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 5>like we're negotiating. Miss Luciani's getting this, She's gonna leave

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 5>with two points. Here I'm coming in by myself, So

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm sitting there like all of y'all here, He for

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:41.799
<v Speaker 5>sure getting point and I know he getting and she

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.320
<v Speaker 5>getting it, but me, hmm, you're.

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 4>Just getting up front money.

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:47.720
<v Speaker 5>Let me, yeah, let me network and take some money

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 5>out the deal, because it's not like I'm signed to

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:54.800
<v Speaker 5>dev Jim Hourly or it's a lumpsung just for being there.

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 5>Just for being there, you can get paid from your

0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 5>label to just come and be a part of the

0:48:00.640 --> 0:48:04.320
<v Speaker 5>the session. Typically that's not gonna happen, but some people

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 5>have just been like, I'm just here giving you'all ideas.

0:48:07.719 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna get no points, but I want some

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:11.520
<v Speaker 5>money off of this. And may be the ones that

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 5>you don't see the names on the thing either. A

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 5>lot of the big megastars have had like five people

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 5>that I know wrote a lot of them.

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 8>His If you look it'd be like two names on

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 8>the song. And that's not true. It'd be like five

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 8>of them. They wrote that song.

0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 5>But the big dogs, they had the big rock a

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:31.280
<v Speaker 5>Feller label or so, and so they're gonna shine and

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:33.720
<v Speaker 5>they're gonna be the ones to get all the credit

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:36.000
<v Speaker 5>that you be having smaller people like I was just

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 5>thankful to be in the room.

0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 8>I left with some money.

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 5>I didn't get a long term deal like y'all, but

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 5>I got a couple thousand.

0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:42.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm cool.

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's what made me say that when you was

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 7>talking about how like some people just go in there

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:47.879
<v Speaker 7>and get the money and get it.

0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 1>They don't get the credit on the song.

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes you don't even see the money for a year

0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 5>or two. So sometimes I be thinking, like, do you

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:56.360
<v Speaker 5>want to get a little forty upfront or twenty upfront

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 5>or do you want to wait and maybe the person

0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 5>lose they deal next year. It's a lot they might

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.439
<v Speaker 5>get dropped next year. You sitting there like I'm about

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 5>to get this big old check.

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Girl.

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<v Speaker 5>This person had her baby, got married, She don't even

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:09.919
<v Speaker 5>wrap no more. You should have got the money up front.

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Now say that the.

0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:13.480
<v Speaker 4>Back end doesn't even come. If something happens to the artists.

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 1>It sometimes don't.

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 5>The artists could have a situation with the label where

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:19.960
<v Speaker 5>they done dropped her and now they're acquiring all of

0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:20.440
<v Speaker 5>her stuff.

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:21.880
<v Speaker 8>Now you're sitting there like, are.

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 4>They shoving a record?

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:22.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 8>What I'm gonna do? I was there, I wrote it

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 8>a year ago.

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:25.160
<v Speaker 1>What am I?

0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 8>Where's my money? Well, she's not with us no more.

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.680
<v Speaker 5>We're doing this, we're trying to figure this and that

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:32.400
<v Speaker 5>and third out, we're not even gonna put this album

0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:35.160
<v Speaker 5>out now. He decided to go with something else. So

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:38.880
<v Speaker 5>much business and that's why people be really screaming and

0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 5>ripping hair out and be like, do a better system

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 5>for us? This is not this has been going on

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 5>for a long time.

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>But you're also on TV now.

0:49:47.080 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 6>But let's take it to Real Dreams before that, Yeah,

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:51.439
<v Speaker 6>you know, how'd you come up with that?

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:52.799
<v Speaker 4>And bag Lady and all that.

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:53.240
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So, World of Dreams is a label that I started.

0:49:56.480 --> 0:50:00.000
<v Speaker 5>I actually just started. It's not even a year older,

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.480
<v Speaker 5>be a year and probably about November so last year

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 5>I started it, and I had just been doing a

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 5>lot of research on just labels and music, and I

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 5>always get asked a question, am I gonna stay independent

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 5>or do I want to sign? And I always say

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 5>I will signed, but it has to be a position

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:18.040
<v Speaker 5>that makes sense. I've been rapping for a while, so

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:22.280
<v Speaker 5>I've acquired the money. So now I'm not even trying

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 5>to do it for the money. I'm trying to do

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 5>it for a machine that can be like boom. You

0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 5>see her open up here, boom. You've seen her on TV,

0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 5>you've seen this.

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Press, press the button.

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 5>The money, you can do it independently having fans with

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:38.040
<v Speaker 5>the money. So world a dream. Someone told me, they said, listen,

0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 5>you need to start your own label. You start educating

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:44.360
<v Speaker 5>yourself on the label, educating yourself on the points, educating

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 5>yourself on the small print on these deals, and you

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 5>might not actually ever want to sign. And when I

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 5>researched that for months and months, I was like, oh,

0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 5>hell nah, I've worked too hard to end up in

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.280
<v Speaker 5>this type of label where, yeah, I got a million

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 5>dollars up front that I could have made on my own,

0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 5>but I signed for this million.

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>And I know that y'all own everything.

0:51:10.760 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 5>You own Luciana, you own the name Luciani now like

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm your slave now. Basically, so I took my one

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 5>of my musical mentors advice I started a world of

0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:23.520
<v Speaker 5>dreams and the purpose of signing having your own label.

0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.240
<v Speaker 5>When you sign, I'm sorry, when you start your own label,

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:29.000
<v Speaker 5>a label normally has a team. We got producers, we

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 5>got songwriters, we got stylists, we got hair, we got glam.

0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 5>We giving you the umbrella for everything. You just get

0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:37.480
<v Speaker 5>to show and be pretty. We got a team working

0:51:37.480 --> 0:51:39.880
<v Speaker 5>for you. Or you can start your own label and

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 5>you can go and bring in a producer to the label,

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:49.760
<v Speaker 5>another producer, the mixing person, the mastering person, a photographer, videographer,

0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:53.800
<v Speaker 5>and have your own team where you can control it yourself.

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:56.640
<v Speaker 5>So when you go to a major label, they ain't

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 5>gonna play with you. How they would play with the

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:02.680
<v Speaker 5>Amy lab year who was just sitting there like, I

0:52:02.680 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 5>don't have a label, I'm not signed.

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:06.600
<v Speaker 1>It's just me. Oh, We're going to take you all

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:07.399
<v Speaker 1>the way up through there.

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:09.600
<v Speaker 5>But now that I have World of dreams, it's like,

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 5>oh yeah, so y'all can't play with these budgets and say,

0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 5>the reason why we got to take all this money

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:17.040
<v Speaker 5>from you and you got to pay us back all

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 5>of this money is because we had to get your producer.

0:52:20.080 --> 0:52:21.320
<v Speaker 5>We had to get you a songwriter, we had to

0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:23.239
<v Speaker 5>get your makeup, we had to get you a videographer.

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:25.919
<v Speaker 5>We had to get you somebody to make you a star.

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:28.280
<v Speaker 5>Now I'm in a position to say, no, you didn't.

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:29.920
<v Speaker 5>You didn't have to spend all that to do that

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 5>for me. So I need more money up front, not

0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:35.799
<v Speaker 5>on the back end, because I did y'all job.

0:52:36.160 --> 0:52:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I have a label.

0:52:36.760 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 5>It's called World of Dreams, and if you look under

0:52:38.560 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 5>my umbrella, I have everything that y'all thought y'all was

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.160
<v Speaker 5>about to fake spend a million dollars on and weren't

0:52:44.200 --> 0:52:46.480
<v Speaker 5>really spending a million on it. The respect is so

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 5>different now, and I'll be oh, I should have did

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:52.840
<v Speaker 5>this two years ago. That's a good thing about learning

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:54.920
<v Speaker 5>though that, And that's why you're on rush it.

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:58.040
<v Speaker 7>Exactly because it's people that's going to watch this interview,

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:01.520
<v Speaker 7>and these are people that it was in your shoes.

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 7>I mean, there's probably in your shoes how you was

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:04.600
<v Speaker 7>a couple of years ago.

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 5>And a lot of people don't tell you it because

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:08.879
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people in this game feel like, well,

0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 5>I had to sign and paste four years of my

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:13.640
<v Speaker 5>career with a bad deal I'm not gonna tell you

0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:15.399
<v Speaker 5>and stop. You just figured it out like I did.

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 5>That's crazy. You can stop somebody.

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:19.800
<v Speaker 4>You guys did bag Lady.

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 8>Yes, let us know about that.

0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:24.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, shout out to bigger ranking. I put out a

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:28.400
<v Speaker 5>single car bag Lady, and it was just a song

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:32.359
<v Speaker 5>for women to just feel ownership and just being a

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 5>business woman.

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of.

0:53:34.000 --> 0:53:36.400
<v Speaker 5>People say, like, bag Lady, you gotta have diamonds on

0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:39.080
<v Speaker 5>all of this. I was a bag lady when I

0:53:39.120 --> 0:53:41.400
<v Speaker 5>was literally a bag lady working at Walmart. Like the

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:45.719
<v Speaker 5>mentality was speaking it into it happening. So if you

0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:48.720
<v Speaker 5>wake up and it's every day, you know, I'm getting

0:53:48.719 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 5>my own bag, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that.

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:53.719
<v Speaker 5>I wrote the lyrics for More. It's like a more

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:58.440
<v Speaker 5>of a chant of speaking something into existence. So I

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:02.759
<v Speaker 5>wrote bag Lady talk about going from here to here

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 5>to their baby steps going up and then in the

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:07.960
<v Speaker 5>end you got your success. But because you worked for it,

0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:10.799
<v Speaker 5>you know you're the bag lady. Now people can't come

0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 5>and hold it over your head and say you did

0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:15.799
<v Speaker 5>this to get here. Now you need to come do

0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 5>it like no. It's independency and having patience. These are

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:23.320
<v Speaker 5>two things that people struggle with because to be independent

0:54:23.360 --> 0:54:27.319
<v Speaker 5>makes your journey longer. But if you stay independent and

0:54:27.360 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 5>take your time, you can't really just be putting positions

0:54:30.440 --> 0:54:32.799
<v Speaker 5>to be like, yeah, she had to do this to

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:33.160
<v Speaker 5>get on.

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:35.880
<v Speaker 6>Were you're putting yourself in bigger positions. Now you're on

0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 6>Love and hip Hop? Yes, how did you get that opportunity?

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 8>Opportunity?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back. Stay tuned with more of The

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Baller Alert Show. You're listening to a special edition of

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:54.919
<v Speaker 2>The baller Alert Show.

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:55.400
<v Speaker 1>What's Up?

0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:58.759
<v Speaker 5>Yall's Amy Luciani and you are now tuned into The

0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:01.839
<v Speaker 5>Baller Alert Show. Love and hip Hop actually has came.

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:03.879
<v Speaker 5>Shout out to Love and hip Hop two shout out

0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:06.279
<v Speaker 5>too and swhen that media shout out to MTV.

0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 1>A bunch of shoutouts and is.

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:18.920
<v Speaker 5>But Love and hip Hop actually has came for me

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 5>a few times over the last couple of years, and

0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:26.319
<v Speaker 5>each time it was just didn't even make sense to

0:55:26.360 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 5>me personally. A lot of the times, the situations and

0:55:29.480 --> 0:55:32.080
<v Speaker 5>the stories and the people that I was around it

0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:34.719
<v Speaker 5>they wanted to kind of highlight it just never made

0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:39.879
<v Speaker 5>sense for me. So this year they came talking right,

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:43.000
<v Speaker 5>and it makes sense this year. So who was the difference.

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:49.080
<v Speaker 5>The difference this year was me really Now I had

0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:52.719
<v Speaker 5>myself together, my life together, so they had to come

0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:56.719
<v Speaker 5>at me different, whereas before when I was really going

0:55:56.760 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 5>through trying to figure out just all this just artists

0:55:59.719 --> 0:56:04.200
<v Speaker 5>and a creative people, big, big, big institutes can see it.

0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:06.040
<v Speaker 5>And now they have more power to be like, Yeah,

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:07.560
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna put you on here and you're about to

0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:10.040
<v Speaker 5>be fighting with her, and we're gonna make you go

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:12.279
<v Speaker 5>do this and fake date this person.

0:56:11.960 --> 0:56:13.920
<v Speaker 1>And then somebody gonna throw some water in your face

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:14.799
<v Speaker 1>and I might.

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:16.800
<v Speaker 8>Have to catch charge again because you know what I'm.

0:56:16.640 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 5>Saying again again, A charge for before. Listen the ones

0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:28.680
<v Speaker 5>who know me my past lie which was first, that

0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:33.480
<v Speaker 5>is Amber, which is react first, apologize. Second, that's no

0:56:33.560 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 5>longer me.

0:56:34.800 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 4>But I in Detroit.

0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:39.480
<v Speaker 5>That was right here in Atlanta and Clayton County, to

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:40.279
<v Speaker 5>be exact.

0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:41.280
<v Speaker 4>That's outside.

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I And it's so funny. I just did a

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:48.680
<v Speaker 5>big charity event with my old bunkie from jail. She's

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 5>went on to do great things.

0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:51.520
<v Speaker 1>How long you was in jail?

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<v Speaker 5>I have I have had my fighting moments. Yeah, and

0:56:57.080 --> 0:56:58.279
<v Speaker 5>I have had some time.

0:56:58.360 --> 0:56:59.240
<v Speaker 4>Oh you're just fighting.

0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:03.879
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yeah, I was fighting and then yeah, but no

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 5>more of that. Okay that my I see, I've walked

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:09.319
<v Speaker 5>so many shoes. I was a bartender for years. I

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:12.000
<v Speaker 5>worked in the club, so I was in that lifestyle

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:15.319
<v Speaker 5>where it was like you drunk, but you're coming at me.

0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 5>I gotta let you down. I have been picked up

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:24.480
<v Speaker 5>from my job and locked up behind bartending in some mess.

0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 1>But that is all the.

0:57:26.400 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 4>Time coming inbar get drunk at me.

0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:34.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And so that's why I really was not doing

0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:36.360
<v Speaker 5>the show for a long time, because I knew, like,

0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:37.680
<v Speaker 5>she don't really like me.

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 8>That's my old boot, which is not her new boot.

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 8>I'm had to beat her up, and.

0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:45.440
<v Speaker 5>You know, like no, So it makes sense. Now the

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:48.200
<v Speaker 5>show is really good. It's highlighting a lot of the music,

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 5>the brand, my products, and I just feel like it's

0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:54.280
<v Speaker 5>the light that I wanted them to highlight.

0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Cell Now, yes, no, you're talking about your past.

0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:00.400
<v Speaker 7>It seemed like it was about to go back to

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 7>your past in the past episode where.

0:58:03.920 --> 0:58:08.000
<v Speaker 5>You had I was going there, y'all, and I felt

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:10.440
<v Speaker 5>so disappointed at the end of that because I'm like,

0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:12.160
<v Speaker 5>you felt the.

0:58:12.120 --> 0:58:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Test and it was a test that I have.

0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:17.560
<v Speaker 5>Passed, like seven years in a row, where for seven

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 5>years a girl couldn't even get me upset.

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 8>I would be like next and y'all was arguing over.

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:27.200
<v Speaker 4>A record?

0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, what happened?

0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 5>Writing over I mean arguing over writing, arguing over what

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:36.520
<v Speaker 5>we was just talking about? Long story short, and shout

0:58:36.520 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 5>out to Rennie because we have since came to a

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:41.640
<v Speaker 5>cordial level where I can't say friends, but now we

0:58:41.680 --> 0:58:43.520
<v Speaker 5>actually can sit in the scene together and be like.

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:44.800
<v Speaker 8>Let's see you.

0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:48.880
<v Speaker 5>We're looking at each other. But were able to be

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 5>on the scene, not get our bag before. It was

0:58:51.000 --> 0:58:53.080
<v Speaker 5>not that it was on site. It was on site

0:58:53.080 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 5>for real, for real, but just to speed through it

0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 5>because I don't even want to dwell on that too long.

0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 5>But again, I was in a session with a bunch

0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:04.120
<v Speaker 5>of men. I was the only girl. Again, no, I was,

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:07.440
<v Speaker 5>and I was with one other female writer. Shout out

0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:10.960
<v Speaker 5>to Pineapple City from California. She and I were the

0:59:11.000 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 5>girls that were there, but we were in a session

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:15.680
<v Speaker 5>with about eight nine people, and longstory short, she and

0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:19.160
<v Speaker 5>I wrote a song together and in that session we

0:59:19.160 --> 0:59:20.160
<v Speaker 5>were writing.

0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 1>For other artists.

0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 4>You and Pineapple City, are you me?

0:59:22.200 --> 0:59:26.760
<v Speaker 5>And Pineapple City. Pineapple City and I wrote a record,

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:30.200
<v Speaker 5>and a year later we didn't do anything with the

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 5>record because we were in there a writing session.

0:59:32.440 --> 0:59:33.600
<v Speaker 8>So we're all on the email.

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<v Speaker 5>We're just doing reference tracks, reference tracks, remember this word.

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<v Speaker 8>And a year later, you.

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<v Speaker 5>Know, once you do your reference track, the label that

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<v Speaker 5>you're there for, they got all your information, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>so a year later, if they don't decide to do

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<v Speaker 5>the song, it's the name of the game. But then

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<v Speaker 5>somebody said me a DM of an artist performing the song,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was like, yeah, Pineapple City wrote.

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, how does this work? Is Rennie Grouccie

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<v Speaker 8>rapping it?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>She and I.

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<v Speaker 5>I reached out to her, as I'm finding out now

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<v Speaker 5>after we almost came to blows. It was the people

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<v Speaker 5>she was working with, her label, Yes Song, presenting her

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<v Speaker 5>songs as if these are reference records. This Pineapple City

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<v Speaker 5>and this Amy Girl. This was just reference records. This

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<v Speaker 5>could have been for any artists, which was so far

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<v Speaker 5>from the truth. Luckily, we in a time where we

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<v Speaker 5>record everything. The whole session, me and her, we got videos.

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<v Speaker 5>We're texting, Okay, what you want to like? What are

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<v Speaker 5>you thinking about the song? Do you want it to

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<v Speaker 5>be a song we used. You got a deal, I'm independent,

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<v Speaker 5>we can run with this record.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm cool with the people over here. Red Bull like, how.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to do the song?

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<v Speaker 5>They were gonna give the song to another female artist

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<v Speaker 5>that they were possibly going to pitch the record to.

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<v Speaker 5>Nothing came about from that song, so we were just like,

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<v Speaker 5>how did it get in Rennie's hand? How did that go?

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<v Speaker 5>So I reached out to the person who was signed

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<v Speaker 5>to the person that she is signed. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if she's still with them, so don't let me

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<v Speaker 5>be wrong. Was or still is, and he was signed

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<v Speaker 5>to her. He was one of the beat makers in

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<v Speaker 5>a session with us, So of course we pulling layers

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<v Speaker 5>down and we figure out who it was. But her

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<v Speaker 5>and I our beef started was when I reached out

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<v Speaker 5>to her.

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<v Speaker 8>I was respectful. I'm like, hey, I'm Amy Luciani, Like I.

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<v Speaker 5>Wrote this record with this girl. I noticed this on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 5>You're performing it. I don't know if you know about this,

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<v Speaker 5>but this song is a year old. I send her

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<v Speaker 5>anything as an artist that you would have needed to

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<v Speaker 5>be like, oh hell no, let me call on somebody,

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<v Speaker 5>actual factual, factuals and she went off and blocked me.

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<v Speaker 5>So from there, baby, I'm from Detroit. It was up

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<v Speaker 5>after that or was she trying to say she wrote

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<v Speaker 5>it or she was saying basically, have to take that

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<v Speaker 5>up with whoever you was in the studio with that day.

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<v Speaker 5>And I felt disrespected behind it, because I felt like

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<v Speaker 5>if had it been the other way around, I'd have

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<v Speaker 5>been like, hey, I want to say it too much

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<v Speaker 5>to incriminate myself, just like she didn't. But I would

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<v Speaker 5>at least been on some Let me figure out what happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Did she take parts of the record, because like we

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<v Speaker 6>were just talking about how rappers want to take credit

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<v Speaker 6>for writing their own raps and stuff like that. Was

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<v Speaker 6>it the entire record she took or just pieces?

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<v Speaker 5>It was a two verse record in the first verse

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<v Speaker 5>was my entire verse?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, entirely, And you ain't getting no money, so you lucky.

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<v Speaker 8>I got nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>I was sitting there for a year, like I hope

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<v Speaker 5>something come about this because we were in there for

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<v Speaker 5>days doing this. But again, you might get a call

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<v Speaker 5>in three months hey that record, or it could be

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<v Speaker 5>two years, So you don't call and be a buggable

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<v Speaker 5>and be like, hey, what about that? Record, you just

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<v Speaker 5>sit back and let the thing do his thing. So

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<v Speaker 5>I felt disrespected from her message. Long story short, which

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<v Speaker 5>led to me taking to social media because I knew

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<v Speaker 5>this gonna get my answer, and it did. As soon

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<v Speaker 5>as my video went up, the song was taken down.

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<v Speaker 5>Although it was put back up at some point, it

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<v Speaker 5>was put right back up. At some point, it did

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<v Speaker 5>get to down. It was a couple I'm a major

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<v Speaker 5>artists on her deal that had reposted it. I looked

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<v Speaker 5>up they took it down. So I'm thinking, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>we're about to handle the business. Because I'm not a

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<v Speaker 5>drama person. I just want to handle the business. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>owe some money if your label gonna pick up the song.

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<v Speaker 5>But how y'all gonna pick up a song that me

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<v Speaker 5>and this girl wrote? How does that work? So I

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<v Speaker 5>was just vocal that you're like, y'all not gonna keep

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<v Speaker 5>playing with us girls like this. We know it'd be

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of y'all guys that do these writing sessions,

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<v Speaker 5>but we're here now and we're slowly in here writing.

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<v Speaker 5>Give us the credit because if it was a guy,

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<v Speaker 5>they would have been in there ready to fight instantly.

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<v Speaker 8>They wouldn't even play with them like that, the men.

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<v Speaker 4>So did you ever get your credit?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 8>I never got my credit still to.

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<v Speaker 1>This day and it's.

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<v Speaker 8>Still up to this day.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you never want to take it to court?

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<v Speaker 5>Or I honestly was gonna take it to court? Me

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<v Speaker 5>and the artist, me and Pineapple, we were in chat

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<v Speaker 5>with she signed and her people was I only bring

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<v Speaker 5>him a part of the mess. But we were all

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<v Speaker 5>talking like what are we gonna do legally?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 8>We're not gonna play it homegirl game.

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<v Speaker 5>This is legal, this is this is theft right here,

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<v Speaker 5>and we were going back and forth about it, and

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of people around me on my team and

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<v Speaker 5>friends in the industry were warning me and telling me, like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you always got to play as smart and

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<v Speaker 5>think on your emotions when you want to go big

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<v Speaker 5>on these people that she signed to.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like, do you know what she signed? Do you

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<v Speaker 8>know what she signed to?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I know what she s?

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<v Speaker 5>Like, do you want to go she s? Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 5>is the entity of QC. Yeah, which is an entity

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<v Speaker 5>of it and the big yeah yeah, a big umbrella.

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<v Speaker 5>So do you want to essentially fall out with people

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<v Speaker 5>with these people because they could just blackball you that

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<v Speaker 5>happens every day.

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<v Speaker 4>So are you scared of that is a question.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not scared of it. But I'm a money maker.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm wise enough to control my emotions and be like So.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why you guys are not You can be in

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<v Speaker 6>the scene, but you would feel better if you got paid.

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<v Speaker 5>For sure, we should be paid. Yeah, but we should

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred percent be paid. We should have been paid.

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<v Speaker 5>But this industry is, it's it's so many unfair situations

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<v Speaker 5>that I don't want to be the artist to keep

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<v Speaker 5>being vocal about because I been meaning people to stand

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<v Speaker 5>with need look yeah, and I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 5>that person.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not able to be that person.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't want to be that person.

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<v Speaker 5>I silently throw my little chips out and be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>us girls do be kind of done unfairly when they

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<v Speaker 5>come down to these writing sessions and writing boards and

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<v Speaker 5>references and stuff. But I don't want to keep saying

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<v Speaker 5>it because now that's overshadowing what I'm trying to do

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<v Speaker 5>and who I'm trying to be. And then you also

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<v Speaker 5>coming up. You gotta be careful with who you really

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<v Speaker 5>ready to go to war with. At certain points of

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<v Speaker 5>your career, it's not like I'm the biggest artists in

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<v Speaker 5>the world and to be sitting up there like I'm

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<v Speaker 5>taking y'all down or take yourself down.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now you're on the same playing field with her.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's how God work and that's why I wasn't

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<v Speaker 5>never tripping because I know how it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>So now it's funny.

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<v Speaker 5>Because it's like God to do that loop real quick

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<v Speaker 5>and you just be sitting back like I remember me.

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<v Speaker 4>When was her reaction when she first seen you on set.

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<v Speaker 8>What y'all saw on TV?

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<v Speaker 5>Didn't want to speak, didn't really look at me, didn't

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, it was what you saw clipped down because

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<v Speaker 5>it was a long conversation.

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<v Speaker 8>So it's what y'all saw clip down for sixty second.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like instant.

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<v Speaker 7>It's like, it's because what I when I saw the clip,

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, damn, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of this because it was like as soon as.

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<v Speaker 5>It was so much more and just how I am

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<v Speaker 5>with everybody. I just like I said, I know my power,

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<v Speaker 5>so I know how to talk to people in conflict

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<v Speaker 5>because it's either two things. We're gonna talk in conflict

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<v Speaker 5>or oh my old background, my old thinking.

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<v Speaker 8>It was okay, because where I'm from.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't go back to Detroit now was progressive?

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<v Speaker 5>Now conflict gonna be talkable or we're gonna fight, one

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<v Speaker 5>of us gonna get hurt out the situation.

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<v Speaker 6>And how do you find the balance of giving you know,

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<v Speaker 6>your new opportunity on Love and hip Hop what they want,

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<v Speaker 6>which is drama field, yeah, and trying to highlight your

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<v Speaker 6>businesses and your music at the same time.

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<v Speaker 8>How you said, what was the question?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I say?

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<v Speaker 4>How do you balance them both?

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<v Speaker 8>I'm still learning how to do it to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's your first time with love and hip hop?

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<v Speaker 5>First time, Okay, this is my first time. How I'm

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<v Speaker 5>balancing it out is I think it's just having a

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<v Speaker 5>strong mind.

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<v Speaker 8>I was a fan of the show.

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<v Speaker 5>I watched reality TV anyway, so I knew one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>percent what I was stepping into. But I just felt

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<v Speaker 5>like with my approach was different because shout out to

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of the girls that were on the show

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<v Speaker 5>before me, but my situation is different in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>I have kind of the opposite of what a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of girls needed when they started the reality show, started

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<v Speaker 5>loving hip hop or these other shows.

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<v Speaker 8>My career worked in opposite.

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<v Speaker 5>I had businesses that made millions of dollars, and I

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<v Speaker 5>bought the mansions. I drive all these cars off of me.

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<v Speaker 5>I just and have the musical success. A lot of

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<v Speaker 5>girls had the opposite starting off, they were super broke,

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<v Speaker 5>but they had the musical cloud.

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<v Speaker 8>So my stuff worked in reverse.

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<v Speaker 5>So where a lot of the girls came in the

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<v Speaker 5>show and were going through real life situations. Some were homeless,

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<v Speaker 5>some were really coming out to strip club, really moving

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<v Speaker 5>to Atlanta homeless, and the show threw them to the

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<v Speaker 5>woods out there, like, let's show us how homeless stripper is.

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<v Speaker 5>My situation is different because I'm company, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>it's different, like I'm good.

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<v Speaker 6>And real quickly for the audience, what were the businesses

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<v Speaker 6>that really set you up financially?

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<v Speaker 5>So my first business that took off was a hair business.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a hair company called Luciani Lux Hair, and

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<v Speaker 5>my hair just took off. I started off when the

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<v Speaker 5>buy it, selling vendors and building people's websites before e

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<v Speaker 5>commerce was like a conversation. Luckily, I had a neighbor

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<v Speaker 5>that was in it, and he taught me about it

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<v Speaker 5>and we started this big e commerce business with hair.

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<v Speaker 1>So we.

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<v Speaker 8>Just to speed through it.

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<v Speaker 5>We would either build you your full website, get your hair,

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<v Speaker 5>get your website, get your tags, get your ALC.

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<v Speaker 1>Get your EI. In we did everything.

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<v Speaker 5>You will wake up the next day for a small

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<v Speaker 5>fee of a couple thousand and wake up to a

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<v Speaker 5>fully running business. ADS just everything people are doing now,

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<v Speaker 5>one stop shop, one stop shop. I was blessed and

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<v Speaker 5>jumped on that wave when I first heard about it

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<v Speaker 5>years ago.

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<v Speaker 8>It just took the chance.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was like, I don't know what e commerce is,

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<v Speaker 5>but let me try it. I build a wholesale hair

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't build one of my partners. Build a wholesale

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<v Speaker 5>business where you never had a business before, where hairstylists

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<v Speaker 5>could come to my website. We know you need hair

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<v Speaker 5>all week long, your hairstylist. I set it up where

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<v Speaker 5>I was having it like you can buy a wholesale

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<v Speaker 5>for me. I got everything you need. You need tags,

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<v Speaker 5>you need bags, you need lashes, glue, everything wholesale. So

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<v Speaker 5>I just came into, honestly a lucky position before this commerce,

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<v Speaker 5>a blessed position. Before it was like versus the way

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<v Speaker 5>now everybody dropped shipping. I was doing it six years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>so that started it which led to my product that

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<v Speaker 5>I have now, which is called My Pretty Kitty. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a bikini product for your bikini area. It's a three

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<v Speaker 5>step kid like nare or something. Yeah, but it's all natural.

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<v Speaker 5>So mine is all turmeric based. I have a turmeric

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<v Speaker 5>bar of soap, I have a cream and a turmeric oil.

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<v Speaker 5>So my Pretty Kitty is what kind of did the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of everything how it's supposed to go?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 6>So, yeah, you got products to sell, man, you ain't

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<v Speaker 6>got time for the driving. Yeah, we know Renny is

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<v Speaker 6>not one of your favorites, anymore of your least favorite cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Members Autumn heifers. To be careful now that jump.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what, it's reality TV. Everybody got a personality.

1:10:57.080 --> 1:10:59.439
<v Speaker 5>I have come on the show on a scene where

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<v Speaker 5>I had a lot of stuff and I wasn't the

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<v Speaker 5>most pleasant because I got real life. Now, I got

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<v Speaker 5>this camera in my face and I really don't like you,

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<v Speaker 5>and I half like you. So uh, it's just reality TV.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't look at any of them, even on the renting.

1:11:12.160 --> 1:11:15.960
<v Speaker 5>We we just we're out the country together and like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my stomach growl. It's just business.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's just business, and it's a show, and I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like with all the adversities, the best part to

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<v Speaker 5>prove you're a business woman you want to be successful

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<v Speaker 5>is I try to think of the money and I

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<v Speaker 5>look at stuff like I'm not trying to chase the

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<v Speaker 5>bag away and you do too much, You be too

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<v Speaker 5>ghetto because you could push the ghettle envelope. You can

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<v Speaker 5>share the money off. You could do too much, you

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<v Speaker 5>can say too much. And although I'm on the show

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<v Speaker 5>that I know is more drama driven, I'm standing behind

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<v Speaker 5>my products on the show so we can do all

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<v Speaker 5>this cat and.

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<v Speaker 1>Audiot, we're gonna highight, were gonna highlight my products.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't come on set without it. I don't come

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<v Speaker 8>on set without it.

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<v Speaker 6>Andy does that on The Housewives, like give them what

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<v Speaker 6>they want. But at the same time, multi product these products.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying, because why would you be.

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<v Speaker 8>On this national TV show not with show products.

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<v Speaker 4>Squandering your opportunity.

1:12:08.200 --> 1:12:09.840
<v Speaker 5>But you won't believe how many of them on your

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<v Speaker 5>doing it, not showing and have products and services.

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<v Speaker 8>And just I'm on TV, so let.

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<v Speaker 1>Me just be the baddie. And I'm sitting up there

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<v Speaker 1>like baby, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 5>Trying to I'm trying to be the bad lady, not

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<v Speaker 5>the baddie. But it's TV, so some people get it confused.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm on here for a purpose, and although I'm loving

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<v Speaker 5>just the new opportunity, it's so different just being miked up,

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<v Speaker 5>having just I've never been in a place where I

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<v Speaker 5>walk into and it's a few girls that don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and we all in the ruin. I'm looking like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't be on those streets stuff. Today.

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<v Speaker 8>We're miked up.

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<v Speaker 5>We're really TV stars now our ten personalities.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm being taught.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm learning stuff too in this experience, because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>typically I wouldn't even be in a room with you,

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<v Speaker 5>but I have to now, and I gotta be nice,

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<v Speaker 5>and I gotta listen to you talk.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to flap you a little bit.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, Okay, Well, Ferrari has been tech to

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<v Speaker 7>me and he won't leave me alone.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me, uh, asks you.

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<v Speaker 7>Ferrari said, he thinks you and Mazie are back together.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh my god, I was sitting on that mail at night.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, whoa I was with that ex last night, y'all?

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<v Speaker 4>What happened?

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<v Speaker 8>Let me tell you how to tell the truth without

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<v Speaker 8>making them look so bad again.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>We were together six years and the last year of

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<v Speaker 5>the relationship, which was last year, when I broke up

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<v Speaker 5>with him, dumped them, left them like a bad habits.

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<v Speaker 5>I No, it just wasn't working out the way it

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<v Speaker 5>was going the first couple of years. I think that

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<v Speaker 5>when we kind of start coming into money and finances

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<v Speaker 5>and it's like, oh, we in his mansion, Oh look

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<v Speaker 5>at our cars, my mentality was, oh, we got to

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<v Speaker 5>keep these things that we acquired, like now we got

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<v Speaker 5>to work more. And just our backgrounds were different. He's

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<v Speaker 5>not the only child, but he has a little brother

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<v Speaker 5>that's like two years younger than him, so he was

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<v Speaker 5>raised an only child.

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<v Speaker 8>I got a full siblings.

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<v Speaker 5>I always was like, do more, do more, safe, be responsible.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think our backgrounds once we came into money,

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<v Speaker 5>money can he didn't change because money I didn't change.

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<v Speaker 5>But I saw it like, oh, shoot, we were supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to be like planning for this big wedding and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>saving up my half what we're supposed to do and

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<v Speaker 5>you're supposed to be working on this. And I think

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<v Speaker 5>that when we came into the money that his mentality

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<v Speaker 5>felt almost like we kind of made it, and I

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<v Speaker 5>was just like, we have not made it yet.

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<v Speaker 4>And your his is more.

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<v Speaker 6>We can relax a little bit, but he's got a

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<v Speaker 6>little comfortable and you were like, no, we're still on edge.

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<v Speaker 6>We have to I feel like it's worked to get in,

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<v Speaker 6>but work harder to stay.

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<v Speaker 5>In, right, And I can't I can't hurse on here, clearly,

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I can't say whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 8>I would have been cussing like a motherfus I know.

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<v Speaker 5>But he told me that when we became financially more

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<v Speaker 5>financially stable or successful, that I turned into a bitch. Basically,

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<v Speaker 5>he said, I turned into like I will wake up,

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<v Speaker 5>and this was true, like I have vision boards and

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<v Speaker 5>I would be waking like okay, so why are you

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<v Speaker 5>You were supposed to do this, like because now again

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<v Speaker 5>we have to keep these things we acquire. So in

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<v Speaker 5>his language, a bitch was like you a little more

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<v Speaker 5>like act like my mam, and now like we're gonna

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<v Speaker 5>keep this house, We're gonna keep these cars. But for me,

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<v Speaker 5>I felt like we have to sleep less.

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<v Speaker 1>Now look at this big ass house.

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<v Speaker 6>We just got, like the scariest It's like, yeah, are

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<v Speaker 6>you you're the oldest right of your fore siblings.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm the second, second oldest, three younger and one older.

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<v Speaker 6>But you still have a responsibility. You screw up with

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<v Speaker 6>a responsibility. Sure, you can't like just drop the ball,

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<v Speaker 6>because if you don't work, you ain't eating for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you guys have kids?

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<v Speaker 5>No, we don't have kids. I don't have any kids.

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<v Speaker 5>He has kids, Okay, so that was another thing. I

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<v Speaker 5>kind of felt like I don't have kids yet. My

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<v Speaker 5>goal was I wanted to buy my house. I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to get married. I know, I'm I'm backwards. A lot

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<v Speaker 5>of people say get married in the house. I knew

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to get the house. I want to live

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<v Speaker 5>with you. I wanted to then I want to get married.

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<v Speaker 5>Then I wanted to have a kid. So we had

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<v Speaker 5>so much in order, and I felt like when the

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<v Speaker 5>money came, it was like a shock for me and

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<v Speaker 5>it was a shock for him. We reacted two different ways.

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<v Speaker 5>He reacted in like we never had money before, like

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<v Speaker 5>let's just enjoy it and live it, like we look

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<v Speaker 5>look at today right now, let's go shopping. And I

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<v Speaker 5>was like I started acting broke her when I got paid.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, understand that because you don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>go back.

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<v Speaker 5>No, And so we were arguing a lot, and he

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<v Speaker 5>used to be like, you're not my mom. You act

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<v Speaker 5>like a little bit and I'm not trying to be

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<v Speaker 5>like you like mother. Hen holding onto the money and

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<v Speaker 5>how much did you spend on that trip hike?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was older. Those rich people do and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I am.

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<v Speaker 6>And people say, steam, you know you save your money,

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<v Speaker 6>Your money will save you.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you save your money, Your money will save you.

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<v Speaker 7>I tell people that all the time. I tell family members, man,

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<v Speaker 7>don't ask me for no money. Man, save your money,

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<v Speaker 7>because my money gonna have to save me eventually at

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<v Speaker 7>some point in life.

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<v Speaker 6>Just imagine how many people were scared when the pandemic

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<v Speaker 6>happened and still stay to build themselves back up.

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<v Speaker 5>And we our lives were the opposite when the pandemic

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<v Speaker 5>because we were the YouTube couple of the year for

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<v Speaker 5>the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 8>So with us, we.

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<v Speaker 5>Came into so much money during the pandemic that was

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<v Speaker 5>almost wasn't fair. It was like people in the pandemic

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<v Speaker 5>are not watching YouTube more. Yep, So our stuff went

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<v Speaker 5>up five times.

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<v Speaker 1>We was already killing it.

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<v Speaker 5>I was thinking like during the pandemics, like, oh my god, look,

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<v Speaker 5>we bought the mansion in the pandemic. We bought the

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<v Speaker 5>cars in the pandemic. And I was thinking, like, when

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<v Speaker 5>I started seeing the pandemic, I was affecting people.

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<v Speaker 1>I started trying to hold on and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>And I felt like with him, we just had two

1:17:44.960 --> 1:17:50.160
<v Speaker 5>different mindsets. He he lives like today, this is today.

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<v Speaker 5>We got this today. You want to go on another trip,

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm so the opposite. And I'm like, h we

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<v Speaker 5>could be broken a year.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's how y'all got it, though, That's how we

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<v Speaker 1>got it.

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<v Speaker 5>And a biggering got too much and then you I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure from a male perspective, when we start doing too

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<v Speaker 5>much bitching and stuff, it just go downhill.

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<v Speaker 8>But I'm not gonna stop.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, it's just go downhill because I feel like

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<v Speaker 7>in y'all situation, you guys are business partners and then

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<v Speaker 7>y'all have to be relationship and you know, googlely goggly

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<v Speaker 7>and stuff like that. And I think you know, as

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<v Speaker 7>a man, it's like once it was like once you

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<v Speaker 7>start doing the bitching.

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<v Speaker 5>But then from a woman perspective, you know what I'm saying, sis.

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<v Speaker 5>When we start looking like I'm supposed to be marrying

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<v Speaker 5>you and then we got to share the money.

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<v Speaker 6>You got to look for yourself, come on like and

1:18:37.640 --> 1:18:40.160
<v Speaker 6>it's not even to be a selfish or anything like that,

1:18:40.200 --> 1:18:42.960
<v Speaker 6>but you know you could be left in destitute.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, you have to look out for yourself because if

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<v Speaker 6>you've been broke before.

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<v Speaker 4>And you got some money, you do you do not

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<v Speaker 4>want to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>You do not want to go back.

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<v Speaker 8>You almost do anything to not go back.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how people call me help.

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<v Speaker 5>When I came into my financial blessings, I became the

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<v Speaker 5>cheapest person. I used to spend more money when I

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<v Speaker 5>was broke. I didn't even have it, but I used

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<v Speaker 5>to somehow. I always was That's how it goes. Somehow

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<v Speaker 5>I had it. I always had it there and I

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<v Speaker 5>was broke. Well my money now, my mom, she laugh

1:19:13.360 --> 1:19:16.040
<v Speaker 5>at me. I what I even talking about?

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<v Speaker 8>The number?

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<v Speaker 5>I was somewhere with somebody and I was I got

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<v Speaker 5>them to go so long on their number. And my

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<v Speaker 5>mom is over my business, so she obviously is overshopifyed.

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<v Speaker 5>She see what the products do. When we walked away,

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<v Speaker 5>she said, bitch, you bet at ever, come in here

1:19:30.800 --> 1:19:33.400
<v Speaker 5>with your jurery on and get nobody to go down

1:19:33.439 --> 1:19:34.280
<v Speaker 5>on they price like that.

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<v Speaker 8>I can't believe he did it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, this is what I that's a good

1:19:37.240 --> 1:19:37.840
<v Speaker 1>business woman.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know what, white people's been doing it for

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<v Speaker 6>you for a year, rich white people.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why they stay rich.

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<v Speaker 5>You're not in designer Like to this day, I don't

1:19:45.680 --> 1:19:48.320
<v Speaker 5>wear designer. The only thing I care about is I

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<v Speaker 5>just like jury for some reason. But I don't wear

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<v Speaker 5>a designer.

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<v Speaker 7>So what's been your dumbest purchase since you've gained money?

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<v Speaker 8>A bad person?

1:19:57.240 --> 1:20:00.679
<v Speaker 1>I bought before? How much was it? S? Six hundred?

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<v Speaker 5>And it was so stupid when I when I left

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<v Speaker 5>back when I left with it and just kept looking

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<v Speaker 5>at it. I started adding up all the studio hours

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<v Speaker 5>and how much it costs and how much. I said,

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<v Speaker 5>you could have got four music videos out of this.

1:20:12.200 --> 1:20:12.920
<v Speaker 5>You could have did this.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the.

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<v Speaker 8>Dumbest thing ever.

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<v Speaker 5>But I got hyped up again, used to be a

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<v Speaker 5>bro bitch, had a little dollar that day. I was like,

1:20:20.160 --> 1:20:22.280
<v Speaker 5>I've never done this. Why would I not have always

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<v Speaker 5>actually wanted that? As that broke me. That was my

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<v Speaker 5>one time doing it though, that's the difference with me

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<v Speaker 5>and a lot of people. I did that once.

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<v Speaker 1>I respect that.

1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:30.759
<v Speaker 4>But sometimes it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay to work hard and then reward yourself with some things.

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<v Speaker 6>What number do you think you would feel comfortable enough to,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, spurge on yourself a little bit.

1:20:39.840 --> 1:20:45.479
<v Speaker 5>Another splurge would happen when I make another million dollars. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Because if you if you make the million, which I

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<v Speaker 5>have made it with Pretty Kitty, I've done it more

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<v Speaker 5>than once. You take off half of that away because

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<v Speaker 5>you had to put it right back in your product.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you took the five hundred off the one million

1:20:57.680 --> 1:21:00.759
<v Speaker 5>that you made, that's gone, and then x five hundred.

1:21:00.840 --> 1:21:04.000
<v Speaker 5>You go about to spend fifty to seventy a month

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<v Speaker 5>on advertisements, which is gonna make you probably spend fifty.

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<v Speaker 5>You probably might make one hundred and fifty off of

1:21:08.960 --> 1:21:11.640
<v Speaker 5>the fifty you spent. But that million go down so

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<v Speaker 5>fast you ain't got time to be talking about one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred thousand dollars shopping spree.

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<v Speaker 1>How hard was it to get the first million?

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<v Speaker 5>It really wasn't hard for me, honestly, Again, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>being humble when I said, my mom has always been

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<v Speaker 5>an entrepreneur. My mom had a cheering hip hop business

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<v Speaker 5>my whole life. My mom has always had a business,

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<v Speaker 5>so I've always been a frugal person to know about

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<v Speaker 5>saving because of her. So I made the million and

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<v Speaker 5>it was like I kind of really for real real

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<v Speaker 5>made it in seven months when I made my product,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was like, oh, shoot, and then spend a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of it to do it again.

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<v Speaker 8>That's just how I go.

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<v Speaker 6>But to go back to your relationship and you guys,

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<v Speaker 6>essentially it was money that it was at.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys, what happened with the channel? What channel was it?

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<v Speaker 1>It was?

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<v Speaker 5>We had a not a family channel with a couple channels.

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<v Speaker 5>It's called the Amy and Mazzie Show on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you guys divide it or is just there?

1:22:06.160 --> 1:22:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Or no?

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<v Speaker 5>He kept the channel, and I was vocal about I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't feel like he was supposed to keep the channel.

1:22:13.560 --> 1:22:15.519
<v Speaker 5>A lot of people said he should have, but he

1:22:15.640 --> 1:22:19.160
<v Speaker 5>started the channel years ago before we ever met, but

1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:20.360
<v Speaker 5>he never posted on it.

1:22:20.720 --> 1:22:22.679
<v Speaker 8>So now you and me and we're together and.

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<v Speaker 5>We're been like this viral couple for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 5>so we take it to YouTube. I felt like, honey,

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<v Speaker 5>when we broke up and I dumped your black ass.

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<v Speaker 5>This is our channel, and I felt like I should

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<v Speaker 5>get the revenue still fifty to fifty like we've been

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<v Speaker 5>doing for years. But he felt like, no, this is

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<v Speaker 5>my channel that I had three years before I ever

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<v Speaker 5>met you, and we're not together. Go start your YouTube channel.

1:22:44.600 --> 1:22:48.320
<v Speaker 5>This is my channel, and he took all our videos off.

1:22:48.320 --> 1:22:50.479
<v Speaker 5>But I kind of felt like, you still getting the

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<v Speaker 5>revenue from the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 5>of subscribers that I helped build. But our breakup was

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<v Speaker 5>just so different. It was so weird because I kind

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<v Speaker 5>of felt like I kept the house.

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<v Speaker 8>I kept a lot of the stuff that was in

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<v Speaker 8>my name because I had the good credits.

1:23:08.120 --> 1:23:09.840
<v Speaker 5>And then I was like, you had a YouTube, You're

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<v Speaker 5>about to make a lot of money off of it.

1:23:11.439 --> 1:23:13.479
<v Speaker 5>I didn't want him to go down and just be

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<v Speaker 5>depleted without that's crazy, So I walked away from the YouTube.

1:23:17.200 --> 1:23:20.400
<v Speaker 5>My team was like, this is legal, you shouldn't do it,

1:23:20.479 --> 1:23:21.559
<v Speaker 5>but it's like, this is my ex.

1:23:22.400 --> 1:23:23.519
<v Speaker 8>I'm not trying to go to war.

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<v Speaker 5>And although in a nutshell you can say we broke

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<v Speaker 5>up for money, I think that when we really did

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<v Speaker 5>the breakup, I realized like looking at him and him

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<v Speaker 5>looking back at me.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm not changing.

1:23:36.040 --> 1:23:39.559
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna always be that girl that is frugal, that

1:23:39.680 --> 1:23:40.559
<v Speaker 5>watches the money.

1:23:40.880 --> 1:23:42.160
<v Speaker 8>I balance it well.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't ever get back together.

1:23:44.200 --> 1:23:48.719
<v Speaker 8>What we Yeah, somebody gonna have to change that part.

1:23:48.920 --> 1:23:50.800
<v Speaker 5>I had him blocked for a year, and on our

1:23:50.840 --> 1:23:55.720
<v Speaker 5>one year anniversary, I unblocked him. And when I unblocked him, no,

1:23:55.800 --> 1:23:57.960
<v Speaker 5>he caught in text and I was like thinking, what

1:23:58.400 --> 1:24:00.679
<v Speaker 5>how did that happen? Like, I just literally I'm blocked

1:24:00.680 --> 1:24:03.200
<v Speaker 5>you. You wouldn't know I ain't blocked you whatever. And he

1:24:03.360 --> 1:24:06.280
<v Speaker 5>was like, I literally every couple of days text you

1:24:06.360 --> 1:24:07.360
<v Speaker 5>and been doing it for a year.

1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

1:24:08.200 --> 1:24:10.479
<v Speaker 8>And I was like, I'm missing you too.

1:24:11.160 --> 1:24:15.960
<v Speaker 4>But you think, what kind of person do you think

1:24:15.960 --> 1:24:16.559
<v Speaker 4>you would need?

1:24:16.840 --> 1:24:20.439
<v Speaker 5>I want a person that's business minded. I like a.

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<v Speaker 8>Person when I wake up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>I like to talk about business in the morning, or

1:24:24.920 --> 1:24:28.839
<v Speaker 5>hypothetical business or a business idea. I just I'm turned

1:24:28.880 --> 1:24:31.479
<v Speaker 5>on by business. Even watching other people be great, I

1:24:31.520 --> 1:24:35.360
<v Speaker 5>love it. I just be like like, I just like business.

1:24:35.400 --> 1:24:39.840
<v Speaker 5>So I'm attracted to people who go get it, talk

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<v Speaker 5>about bullshit.

1:24:41.560 --> 1:24:45.120
<v Speaker 8>I like a guy who hold me accountable if I.

1:24:45.040 --> 1:24:47.479
<v Speaker 5>Say I'm dropping a mixtape on my birthday June third,

1:24:47.479 --> 1:24:51.000
<v Speaker 5>and on June second. I like a guy like, what's up, accountable.

1:24:51.040 --> 1:24:53.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't like a guy to let me lead because

1:24:53.040 --> 1:24:57.240
<v Speaker 5>I'm aggressive already. So so you want an alpha, gotta

1:24:57.280 --> 1:24:59.760
<v Speaker 5>have an alpha, but then you gotta let me be an alpha too.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why this kind of gets weird. Yeah, that is

1:25:03.760 --> 1:25:06.599
<v Speaker 5>one of my personal struggles because I am very alpha

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<v Speaker 5>like my mom and my ex fiance is an alpha

1:25:10.040 --> 1:25:10.439
<v Speaker 5>for sure.

1:25:10.760 --> 1:25:15.200
<v Speaker 8>But my thought is, you can't be an alpha. How

1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:15.960
<v Speaker 8>can I say it nicely?

1:25:16.080 --> 1:25:18.320
<v Speaker 6>You need more of a laid back alpha versus a

1:25:18.360 --> 1:25:20.800
<v Speaker 6>dominant one, and sometimes you just got to be a

1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:22.639
<v Speaker 6>season where you got to be less of the alpha

1:25:22.680 --> 1:25:22.920
<v Speaker 6>than me.

1:25:23.040 --> 1:25:25.680
<v Speaker 5>So if I have showed you, like with these business practices,

1:25:26.000 --> 1:25:29.240
<v Speaker 5>even down to his businesses helping him, he starts it,

1:25:29.280 --> 1:25:31.799
<v Speaker 5>but I'm behind it. I know the credit, I know business,

1:25:31.840 --> 1:25:33.720
<v Speaker 5>I know loans, I know all of that thanks to

1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:36.360
<v Speaker 5>my mom. If I'm the one helping doing it, now,

1:25:36.400 --> 1:25:37.760
<v Speaker 5>look at all the money you got now.

1:25:38.200 --> 1:25:38.720
<v Speaker 8>I feel like.

1:25:38.720 --> 1:25:41.840
<v Speaker 5>People should learn to for a short season. It don't

1:25:41.840 --> 1:25:44.200
<v Speaker 5>got to be forever. But in a relationship, I felt

1:25:44.200 --> 1:25:46.040
<v Speaker 5>like it was a season where he needed to be

1:25:46.120 --> 1:25:49.680
<v Speaker 5>like Lou, which is what he called me, she know

1:25:49.760 --> 1:25:50.160
<v Speaker 5>a business.

1:25:50.240 --> 1:25:50.840
<v Speaker 8>Let me step back.

1:25:50.880 --> 1:25:53.479
<v Speaker 5>See, I'm good with the YouTube and he's an artist.

1:25:53.560 --> 1:25:55.800
<v Speaker 5>He good with that, but my girl is good with

1:25:55.840 --> 1:25:58.320
<v Speaker 5>the business. If you too stuck on being an alpha

1:25:58.560 --> 1:26:00.320
<v Speaker 5>and you know you're not good at that, but because

1:26:00.360 --> 1:26:02.599
<v Speaker 5>you're in alpha, you gotta act like you're good and

1:26:02.640 --> 1:26:05.519
<v Speaker 5>be over me telling And that's what I felt like

1:26:06.120 --> 1:26:10.080
<v Speaker 5>started started happening because my success in my businesses. I

1:26:10.080 --> 1:26:12.040
<v Speaker 5>felt like with him, he started kind of looking like

1:26:12.680 --> 1:26:14.800
<v Speaker 5>you a little rich, used to be broke bitch when

1:26:14.800 --> 1:26:17.360
<v Speaker 5>I met you, and now you're acting like I know

1:26:17.439 --> 1:26:19.519
<v Speaker 5>it all, bitch. You were broke when I met you.

1:26:20.280 --> 1:26:23.120
<v Speaker 5>We have so much, it's so many lad with you.

1:26:23.640 --> 1:26:26.800
<v Speaker 5>That is how I felt. I felt like he thought

1:26:26.800 --> 1:26:29.479
<v Speaker 5>we had made it, and it started scaring me. We

1:26:29.520 --> 1:26:31.600
<v Speaker 5>had a wedding plan eight months before I broke up

1:26:31.600 --> 1:26:33.840
<v Speaker 5>with him, and I was like adding it up and

1:26:33.880 --> 1:26:36.519
<v Speaker 5>I was just like, maybe we rushing this, Like I

1:26:36.560 --> 1:26:38.120
<v Speaker 5>don't like how you are with money.

1:26:38.800 --> 1:26:40.679
<v Speaker 8>You don't like that you say.

1:26:40.479 --> 1:26:43.320
<v Speaker 5>That I talk and you felt like I'm the alpha

1:26:43.680 --> 1:26:47.040
<v Speaker 5>man over you when you're the man and I ain't changing.

1:26:47.240 --> 1:26:49.000
<v Speaker 5>But you're not gonna do better with your money, but

1:26:49.080 --> 1:26:52.360
<v Speaker 5>I gotta quiet down, So I broke up with him.

1:26:52.400 --> 1:26:55.200
<v Speaker 4>Did y'all ever want to do therapy or seek therapy

1:26:55.280 --> 1:26:56.160
<v Speaker 4>before that happened.

1:26:56.479 --> 1:26:59.120
<v Speaker 5>No, I'm different. I don't believe in that. I don't

1:26:59.120 --> 1:27:04.160
<v Speaker 5>believe that. If you find a person who is proved

1:27:04.160 --> 1:27:07.720
<v Speaker 5>to show like I keep everything everything in my name,

1:27:07.760 --> 1:27:10.320
<v Speaker 5>I hold me down, and now I'm with you and

1:27:10.320 --> 1:27:13.320
<v Speaker 5>suddenly I need a therapist to work and date you.

1:27:14.240 --> 1:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I just don't believe in that. I don't believe in that.

1:27:18.280 --> 1:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Is that wrong?

1:27:18.920 --> 1:27:25.200
<v Speaker 5>Like, no, I do if I became the problem. But

1:27:25.280 --> 1:27:27.160
<v Speaker 5>if the only thing you saying I need some therapy

1:27:27.640 --> 1:27:30.920
<v Speaker 5>is because I'm too alpha, I challenge you and say,

1:27:30.920 --> 1:27:31.639
<v Speaker 5>why do you think I got.

1:27:31.680 --> 1:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>To be so alpha?

1:27:32.760 --> 1:27:35.880
<v Speaker 5>You're not being responsible with our money, so you're turning

1:27:35.920 --> 1:27:38.720
<v Speaker 5>me up more because I'm kind of like hyper dry,

1:27:38.760 --> 1:27:40.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm like kind of nervous now.

1:27:40.120 --> 1:27:42.479
<v Speaker 6>But what if it's not just for you, but like

1:27:42.600 --> 1:27:44.760
<v Speaker 6>for him to understand you, a person that can a

1:27:44.800 --> 1:27:48.160
<v Speaker 6>third party that can like help you guys understand one another.

1:27:49.680 --> 1:27:51.919
<v Speaker 5>Before we get to that point, he has to understand

1:27:51.920 --> 1:27:54.000
<v Speaker 5>that it's just you need to save your money.

1:27:54.439 --> 1:27:56.840
<v Speaker 7>We can't skip over it. But that's that's why most

1:27:56.840 --> 1:27:58.360
<v Speaker 7>people divorces is over.

1:27:58.240 --> 1:27:59.479
<v Speaker 1>My money, and it ain't that.

1:27:59.520 --> 1:28:02.519
<v Speaker 8>It's also gold digging stuff because he good and I'm good.

1:28:02.520 --> 1:28:03.240
<v Speaker 8>I don't need you for.

1:28:03.280 --> 1:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Money, you don't need me.

1:28:04.840 --> 1:28:07.559
<v Speaker 5>It was over money because we're about to become one.

1:28:08.000 --> 1:28:09.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm about to be your wife. I'm gonna have my

1:28:09.920 --> 1:28:13.320
<v Speaker 5>first damn baby, Like I don't. I'm not comfortable. And

1:28:13.600 --> 1:28:16.400
<v Speaker 5>I felt like I was screaming it and it got

1:28:16.439 --> 1:28:18.439
<v Speaker 5>to the point where it was like you ain't hearing me.

1:28:18.880 --> 1:28:19.920
<v Speaker 1>So we got to break up.

1:28:20.120 --> 1:28:22.800
<v Speaker 4>But y'all, are you know, kind of ining at each

1:28:22.800 --> 1:28:23.840
<v Speaker 4>other's lives right now?

1:28:24.520 --> 1:28:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Right now?

1:28:25.800 --> 1:28:26.760
<v Speaker 8>I have forgiven him.

1:28:26.800 --> 1:28:28.600
<v Speaker 5>He has forgiven me because we did a lot of

1:28:28.600 --> 1:28:32.360
<v Speaker 5>social media mess that he did it first and then

1:28:32.400 --> 1:28:35.839
<v Speaker 5>I followed it and it wasn't right anyway. I followed

1:28:35.880 --> 1:28:38.559
<v Speaker 5>it with some ignorance matching his energy, and it was

1:28:38.640 --> 1:28:40.960
<v Speaker 5>just disappointing to the fans for both of us to

1:28:41.000 --> 1:28:41.240
<v Speaker 5>do it.

1:28:41.320 --> 1:28:44.600
<v Speaker 8>So where we are right now, believe it or not.

1:28:44.680 --> 1:28:48.240
<v Speaker 5>When I left my my ex fiance, I left him

1:28:48.240 --> 1:28:50.680
<v Speaker 5>to get back with him. It was supposed to be

1:28:50.680 --> 1:28:52.880
<v Speaker 5>like a shake up almost like okay, So I've been

1:28:52.880 --> 1:28:55.040
<v Speaker 5>saying this for about two years. Now, we've had money

1:28:55.040 --> 1:28:58.479
<v Speaker 5>for two years. You're not listening. Watch this. We're done,

1:28:58.640 --> 1:29:01.120
<v Speaker 5>and here's the ring. That was what it was supposed

1:29:01.160 --> 1:29:03.400
<v Speaker 5>to be. I didn't think it was gonna last fifteen months.

1:29:03.760 --> 1:29:06.560
<v Speaker 5>But now fifteen months went by and I'm blocked, and

1:29:06.640 --> 1:29:10.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, dang, it's been a year. I actually unblocked

1:29:10.080 --> 1:29:12.560
<v Speaker 5>him right around two days after.

1:29:13.800 --> 1:29:14.280
<v Speaker 8>Take off.

1:29:14.360 --> 1:29:18.320
<v Speaker 5>Unfortunately passed away cause it was like on my heart,

1:29:18.320 --> 1:29:20.519
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, dang, life is so short. He was such

1:29:20.520 --> 1:29:22.280
<v Speaker 5>a fan of him. It just reminded me so much

1:29:22.320 --> 1:29:22.639
<v Speaker 5>of him.

1:29:22.880 --> 1:29:23.320
<v Speaker 8>I'm telling you.

1:29:23.360 --> 1:29:26.080
<v Speaker 5>When I unblocked him, he was texting and he's like,

1:29:26.120 --> 1:29:28.080
<v Speaker 5>I've been texting you, like all those things that you

1:29:28.160 --> 1:29:30.720
<v Speaker 5>said I had to get together fifteen months later, but

1:29:31.479 --> 1:29:33.360
<v Speaker 5>sending me the business to.

1:29:33.439 --> 1:29:35.519
<v Speaker 8>This the bank account, and I'm just like.

1:29:35.960 --> 1:29:38.559
<v Speaker 1>This is all I ever wanted from you, So come.

1:29:38.439 --> 1:29:40.040
<v Speaker 8>Over here and get this cookie.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's giving you what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you see the change in him?

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<v Speaker 5>I see the changes, and I'm very happy, although we're

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<v Speaker 5>still taking this slow because now I was like, we're

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<v Speaker 5>living in two different places now.

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<v Speaker 8>We were together in one.

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<v Speaker 1>House for six years.

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<v Speaker 5>I see the changes and I'm so happy, but I

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<v Speaker 5>want him to keep doing his thing, and I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like naturally will come back. I'm kind of not kind

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<v Speaker 5>that I've learned to enjoy liking my place too much

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<v Speaker 5>by myself, and he's liking he is too. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>weird because now I'm like, I feel like my fiance

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<v Speaker 5>is like just my little boo who just pull up

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<v Speaker 5>and leave and pull up.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's good.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no, no, I don't think I missed fiance still.

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<v Speaker 5>I think when I called off the wedding and gave

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<v Speaker 5>the ring back that I think now I'm just like

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<v Speaker 5>his ex fiance.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, just say, you just said fiance is like my

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<v Speaker 4>little book.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, habit is a habit. He ain't get back yet, y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Y'all without therapy though.

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<v Speaker 8>Right without therapy.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm willing to do therapy with him because I know

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<v Speaker 5>I got some stuff I gotta do alone. I need

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<v Speaker 5>therapy for some alone issues, I know for sure, and

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<v Speaker 5>he knows for sure he does. But I don't want

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<v Speaker 5>to be the couple. It's like, let's go together, and hell.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it separately. So you're open to therapy for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>For yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm currently in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh how's that going?

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<v Speaker 8>It's going. Well, That's why I'll be able to be like, okay, girl,

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<v Speaker 8>are you done? Okay, God is good and walk off.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm there. And he was doing it for a minute.

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<v Speaker 5>And I don't want to get into his business too much,

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<v Speaker 5>but he was doing it for a minute. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if he's still doing it, but I know in

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<v Speaker 5>the beginning of the breakup, before I blocked him for real,

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<v Speaker 5>when he took stuff to social media, he was actively

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<v Speaker 5>in it, and like I was like, because I know

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<v Speaker 5>he needed it for certain things, and I did it

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<v Speaker 5>and I know I needed it, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>some of that kind of helped. And I think sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>you gotta leave a nigga. Sometimes you just gotta leave

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<v Speaker 5>him and be like, hey, just let him know that

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<v Speaker 5>you're serious, yeah, because they probably don't believe it. And

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<v Speaker 5>as in love as I am with him, still, he

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<v Speaker 5>knew how crazy I was over him, So I ain't

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<v Speaker 5>blame him for being my girl. I'm still making the

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<v Speaker 5>money and blowing the money. You still here six years,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying. Why would he think? Why

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<v Speaker 5>would he think I was gonna be forell. But when

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<v Speaker 5>I really left, that's great advice. But he got it together.

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<v Speaker 4>That's great advice for someone.

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<v Speaker 6>To, you know, to really do it because men go

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<v Speaker 6>call your bluff every time, every time.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's good that you guys are doing the work individually.

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<v Speaker 6>It's you know, and him actively doing his part shows

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<v Speaker 6>that he really wants to be with you, and you

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<v Speaker 6>guys want to be with one another.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know in the.

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<v Speaker 5>End, and he's he's got some really big things he's

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<v Speaker 5>been working on. Like I'm just happy it's the same

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<v Speaker 5>person that I met and fell in love with years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>But again, the money, the money will show you deeper

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<v Speaker 5>of a person's upbringing.

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<v Speaker 8>And you don't got to settle and be.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I must just be challenged for the rest of

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<v Speaker 5>my life for the name and the sake of love,

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<v Speaker 5>because it can't be loved and coexisting when two people

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<v Speaker 5>got two different boundaries, and people try to say stuff

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<v Speaker 5>like all you left me for money, ain't me you

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<v Speaker 5>came up money ain't everything. Money is everything. That's why

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<v Speaker 5>you take it has to work every day because without

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<v Speaker 5>it there is nothing. So money is everything, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 5>It shouldn't be everything. Where one person has to be

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<v Speaker 5>like dating someone and feeling uncomfortable, like I could see

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<v Speaker 5>us in the year not having nothing. That is not

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<v Speaker 5>that's not right.

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<v Speaker 6>We have a bunch, but nay, we could talk to

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<v Speaker 6>you all that you are so funny, you are a storyteller,

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<v Speaker 6>you have great information.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to start a podcast booth.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody say that, yeah, because.

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<v Speaker 6>You got a lot, you got a lot of a

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<v Speaker 6>life that you have gyms.

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<v Speaker 4>But we appreciate you for stopping by.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, I could like, I could literally sit here and

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<v Speaker 6>talk for a whole nother hour, but I know we

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<v Speaker 6>gotta go, uh before.

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<v Speaker 4>We get out of here, though we do have a

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<v Speaker 4>pep talk.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Y'all's Amy Luciani.

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<v Speaker 5>You already know the bag lady shout out to the

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<v Speaker 5>baller or learn for having me dropping some gems and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm learning some gems. I definitely didn't want to leave

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<v Speaker 5>the conversation with I'm letting you know you gotta bet

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<v Speaker 5>it on yourself. A lot of us are sitting here

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<v Speaker 5>putting time frames on our six says. Timeframes are our relationships,

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<v Speaker 5>timeframes on our businesses. If you really are doing what

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<v Speaker 5>you do from the heart and it's your skill and

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<v Speaker 5>it's your calling. It's gonna happen naturally, So Sis Rebrah,

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<v Speaker 5>work your move. Don't worry about how fast things are happening.

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<v Speaker 5>They happen right on time, and it's not on your time.

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<v Speaker 5>It's on the universe's time and everything around you. So grime,

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<v Speaker 5>stay in your bag, get that money, stay focused, stay

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<v Speaker 5>in grime mode.

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<v Speaker 8>It's gonna happen.

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