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Speaker 2: You know, b T.
Speaker 3: It's just so low shot of O C T. No
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Speaker 3: you can't stand on their own, Susie. I already know
Speaker 3: you can't bother with me because up with the squad
Speaker 3: on me. They get a little they called me love
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Speaker 4: We got a special guest.
Speaker 1: In the build.
Speaker 4: Then you want to introduce yourself since you already doing radio.
Speaker 1: Okay, you already know I'm here.
Speaker 5: It's Amy Luciani, y'all, the bad Lady Detroit Stand Up, Atlanta,
Speaker 5: stand doub Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Talking about.
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Speaker 4: Y'all finna get into it.
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 4: I'm ready hosting the show with us.
Speaker 1: I'm hosting the show. I feel really special? Am I important?
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 1: Why you here? You know i'd be too humble.
Speaker 5: I'll be coming places sometime and be like, y'all want
Speaker 5: me here?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you.
Speaker 4: Guys, you're shining and you're looking good. Thank you a
Speaker 4: million buck?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 5: All right, here we got I love Majory at home.
Speaker 5: You got the earring zone. Don't get it twisted.
Speaker 1: I got one in, I left, I lost the other one.
Speaker 1: I don't know how.
Speaker 5: Look, I got a secret looks Tory Lanez sen years.
Speaker 4: What's your thoughts about that? Do y'all think it's fair?
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this. I'm not a girl who fears
Speaker 5: cancelation of the culture. I feel like it was excessive.
Speaker 5: I felt like ten it was so many loops in
Speaker 5: this story for me that I literally couldn't pick aside
Speaker 5: and go with him or her.
Speaker 8: But I know, yeah, No, I think it was excessive.
Speaker 1: I think it was a little bit of assessive as well.
Speaker 7: The reason why I say that because honestly, I thought
Speaker 7: Tory Lanez was gonna get off.
Speaker 8: You did.
Speaker 1: I honestly thought he was.
Speaker 7: Gonna get off because and oh, cet, I know you're
Speaker 7: looking at me crazy.
Speaker 1: This is why I'm going to say this, Because when.
Speaker 7: They were it was so much stuff going on, like
Speaker 7: back and like it was just such a great crowd,
Speaker 7: Like it's like all the information, you don't really know
Speaker 7: what's going on based on what they was telling us.
Speaker 7: And I've seen where they said that they couldn't find
Speaker 7: his handprints on the.
Speaker 8: Gun that blew me away.
Speaker 1: So and you know, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I'm not a lawyer, but I'm thinking, like everybody else, like, okay,
Speaker 7: if you can't if this guy supposedly shot her the
Speaker 7: prince his.
Speaker 8: Gun, that would be on the gun if you did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think it was more so the cockiness and yeah,
Speaker 6: spreading it.
Speaker 8: It was an example being set. I love with this.
Speaker 6: Because then they alleged was alleged that he was leaking
Speaker 6: the information to academics.
Speaker 7: Yeah, allegedly because Meghan posted that, Yo, how are you
Speaker 7: getting this information? We ain't even went the we ain't
Speaker 7: even inside the court room. Yeah, you know you posting
Speaker 7: this stuff.
Speaker 5: So it was an area there was because it was
Speaker 5: such a big conversation. I felt like on his end,
Speaker 5: he was kind of coming out already like I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Win this, and and I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 7: I was like the way he was acting, because you know,
Speaker 7: allegedly he punched august Alsina, he didn't.
Speaker 8: He didn't relax when it was time to.
Speaker 7: Roll aloud and he and he broke his you know,
Speaker 7: he had to stay away from her.
Speaker 8: So he was playing voicemails. I don't know if you knew.
Speaker 5: It's like voicemails being played on one of his mixtapes.
Speaker 8: They made him remove it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, you need to be quiet right now
Speaker 4: and remorseful.
Speaker 7: Essentially, what you're in court for is to prove that
Speaker 7: you are a human being that's you know, privileged to
Speaker 7: be out here in the world. But when you're doing
Speaker 7: all these things outside of court, when you come in,
Speaker 7: you just looked at as a minute, So it doesn't
Speaker 7: matter how good of a lawyer that you have.
Speaker 1: They looking at you. It's like, okay, you're you.
Speaker 7: You want to convince the jury that you're innocent and
Speaker 7: you're not capable of.
Speaker 1: Doing something like that.
Speaker 7: But when we looking on the internet, it's suing that
Speaker 7: you know, allegedly you punched August House Scene in the
Speaker 7: face and you have said that you.
Speaker 5: Didn't, and that kind of came That's what really affected him. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he denied it fully, and then the clip came out
Speaker 5: and it was like toy, what.
Speaker 6: The yeah, and then he said that he would be
Speaker 6: proven innocent.
Speaker 4: That was one of his last tweets or something.
Speaker 5: I think I stopped really giving my opinion on social
Speaker 5: media because I was following following it like everybody else.
Speaker 8: But when she said that they.
Speaker 5: Were never sexual and that I promise you, that's when
Speaker 5: I really was like, I went and took a lot
Speaker 5: of tweets and I was like, let me just sit
Speaker 5: back and just shut.
Speaker 4: Up because you were staying with her.
Speaker 5: At first, I was like, she's sleep with him, Like, oh,
Speaker 5: maybe this was a reaction of a man being jealous
Speaker 5: or whatever and being rejected. But when the courts proved
Speaker 5: that they had been, you know, together, I was like, Amy,
Speaker 5: shut up, don't even talk about this.
Speaker 1: It was such a weird trial.
Speaker 8: This is crazy.
Speaker 7: But I think, you know, I think it's sat on
Speaker 7: both parts man, because you know, Megan, this is something
Speaker 7: she's gonna have to deal with the rest of her
Speaker 7: life and her career. And we got to see another
Speaker 7: black man, unfortunately, go to prison.
Speaker 4: Career.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he still has a chance. He's getting I just
Speaker 5: saw he's getting out. I think at forty seven, if
Speaker 5: he does the full time, he gonna do the full time.
Speaker 8: No celebrity ever does the even a few years away
Speaker 8: from your kids.
Speaker 1: When it's like, oh, one.
Speaker 4: Thing, we do know for sure, he going he going
Speaker 4: back to Canada.
Speaker 1: Oh deported.
Speaker 6: Oh he is going back and as you're done here,
Speaker 6: you're going back to Canada, buddy, they're not even about
Speaker 6: to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't wish prison on no old body.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, especially team.
Speaker 1: I watched it.
Speaker 7: I watched too many crazy prison stuff did you see
Speaker 7: in movies? And I was like, that's not the place
Speaker 7: that I think anybody should should be living here.
Speaker 5: And then when you're coming from such a successful life
Speaker 5: and on a fight all the money, imagine, it's different
Speaker 5: being a mall time millionaire going.
Speaker 6: To prison, and it's different being black going to prison
Speaker 6: because I'm pretty sure his experience isn't the same as
Speaker 6: Chris Lee's.
Speaker 7: Oh no, but you know he's gonna he's gonna be
Speaker 7: what I was reading about it. He's going to be
Speaker 7: in higher power, which is protective custody, So he's going
Speaker 7: to be on lockdown majority of the time.
Speaker 1: Tori. Yeah, Oh I didn't know that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, when you're a celebrity, you know, is that good
Speaker 7: or bad?
Speaker 5: All them years on lockdown and I don't know. They
Speaker 5: put me out there with the wolves. I'm not trying
Speaker 5: to be in my little corner cubicle on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because imagine you've been locked down for like ninety
Speaker 7: percent of the day.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 6: Another sad case man, Raven Simone was encouraged to get
Speaker 6: surgery by her father.
Speaker 9: Had two breast productions in lipol before I turned eighteen.
Speaker 9: My dad suggested strongly that I should get my breast reduced.
Speaker 4: He was like, so you don't feel bad?
Speaker 9: Is there anything you want? I was like what I
Speaker 9: was like, Yeah, if I get lightpol people stop calling
Speaker 9: me fat.
Speaker 8: That's sick.
Speaker 4: That is sick.
Speaker 7: That six that's so sad man. It's like people don't
Speaker 7: even allow people to be people. People who cares about
Speaker 7: somebody being fat or skinned or big or tall.
Speaker 8: And your dad is pushing it.
Speaker 1: Who is her father telling her some stuff like that
Speaker 1: before eighteen?
Speaker 6: Yeah, like because she was She had a hit TV
Speaker 6: show That's all Raven.
Speaker 4: This is that's so Raven days.
Speaker 8: You know, yeah, she.
Speaker 7: But nobody, nobody on that show ever thought she was fat,
Speaker 7: like I watched her, But she said.
Speaker 4: She was being told that so Hollywood, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she looked like my cousin I was growing up.
Speaker 1: That was normal for us.
Speaker 4: Looking at her, It's just like Jennifer Husband.
Speaker 6: She said she didn't know, she was fat until she
Speaker 6: left Chicago, till she left.
Speaker 1: Her comfort zone.
Speaker 6: You know, we we don't see it as that, but
Speaker 6: you know, when Raven was hot. She first off, she's
Speaker 6: a child star. But when she really you know, came
Speaker 6: and peaked, that's so Raven. You's got to think about it.
Speaker 6: You know, he had all the skinny girls at that time.
Speaker 8: They were trying to under one hundred pounds.
Speaker 4: Guy.
Speaker 1: But I feel like everybody in Hollywood, skinny.
Speaker 5: Especially but especially trying to be are killing themselves to
Speaker 5: become skinny like that.
Speaker 6: Beyonce was skinny back then, you know, going on dice
Speaker 6: to look a certain way.
Speaker 4: Yep, that was that time. Now they're trying to look thicker.
Speaker 1: Time has changed.
Speaker 8: Time has changed.
Speaker 1: You got the big girl supermodels now.
Speaker 5: But that's why you shouldn't be helped telling kids to
Speaker 5: change their body so early, because look how times have
Speaker 5: changed where you at one point, obviously the BBO was
Speaker 5: like the big thing in our community. Now if you
Speaker 5: look all those celebrities that people went and followed, they're
Speaker 5: going back to being slim, They're going back to being fit,
Speaker 5: and now people are starving themselves to go back to it.
Speaker 7: Like when I was growing up, I didn't even know
Speaker 7: nothing about what surgery was.
Speaker 1: I thought surgery was like if you broke your leg,
Speaker 1: me too, you know what I'm saying, me too.
Speaker 7: That was like these kids nowadays, and you know, middle
Speaker 7: school in high school, they know what like bbl yea.
Speaker 1: I would never know what any of those things were.
Speaker 1: You know, it's social media.
Speaker 5: We're in a time where we are just overdoing a lot.
Speaker 5: I'm around so many girls, they just change so quick
Speaker 5: in front of me, and it's it's social media.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, there's a lot of girls changing on
Speaker 6: Lizzo right now because six more girls have come out
Speaker 6: and uh said that she created a hostile work environment
Speaker 6: and some of the new complaints saying that she's failed
Speaker 6: to pay them all. These employees worked on her watch
Speaker 6: Out for the Big Girls Amazon series and her tour.
Speaker 1: What are they looking a game from this situation? Because
Speaker 1: some money, some money. So Lizzo just paid these people.
Speaker 1: So they go away once.
Speaker 5: She starts doing that, and it's like, Okay, she's just
Speaker 5: gonna pay out.
Speaker 1: If she's stills salegations are wild.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think if she starts setting with people, they're
Speaker 6: gonna think it's true.
Speaker 5: It is, yeah, but if you don't pay them is
Speaker 5: giving It's like she's just.
Speaker 1: Gonna get dragged out.
Speaker 7: Like you don't what always wonder This is what always
Speaker 7: wondered every time we look up and we see like,
Speaker 7: you know, celebrities, they're they're getting suit or allegations.
Speaker 1: Why is always like it's twenty more people just come
Speaker 1: out of.
Speaker 5: The everybody's vocal suddenly everybody's That's the part that makes
Speaker 5: it always sketchy for me because I'm like, dude, where
Speaker 5: were you if this happened to you a year ago?
Speaker 8: Why are you speaking of now?
Speaker 5: Well, finally somebody use their voice while I'm feeling, you know,
Speaker 5: brave enough to do it all twenty of y'all.
Speaker 7: And I mean, if she did do that, you know,
Speaker 7: I hope they get I hope they get paid, and
Speaker 7: I hope they get taken care of it. If they
Speaker 7: really were in a hostile environment and you know, they
Speaker 7: were forced to do things that they didn't want to do.
Speaker 1: It's just one time.
Speaker 5: For me to feel like what these girls are seeing,
Speaker 5: where was some sexual weirdness going on? I'm dismissing myself
Speaker 5: and you don't got a worry about me?
Speaker 1: Coming back.
Speaker 5: I'm suing you because you got your one time to
Speaker 5: put me in that position.
Speaker 1: But they were a legend.
Speaker 8: They just kept dealing with it.
Speaker 5: And that's the part is like when is y'all where's
Speaker 5: y'all accountability? If you kept coming with your crazy tell self,
Speaker 5: you kept showing up, and it was just it got
Speaker 5: to the point it was unbearable.
Speaker 8: You didn't have to come back after the first time.
Speaker 7: If your boss did anything and told you to do
Speaker 7: something that you were not comfortable doing, you have every
Speaker 7: opportunity to.
Speaker 1: Leave, every opportunity I had to.
Speaker 7: I had to touch a dick and I like and
Speaker 7: then they probably touched that dick and was like, I
Speaker 7: probably get I could probably suit this bitch for having
Speaker 7: to touch.
Speaker 5: This dick because I'm just trying to see why did
Speaker 5: Why would Lizzeo have had to be so hands on
Speaker 5: to be like, come here, you're gonna touch this?
Speaker 8: Like what's it?
Speaker 4: Your team trying to hang out with her, like trying
Speaker 4: to be cool.
Speaker 6: And the thing is they don't know the difference, like
Speaker 6: I'm not your friend, your boss, but.
Speaker 7: A lot of a lot of a lot of these
Speaker 7: like these workers they be trying to get with these
Speaker 7: celebrities and be hanging around.
Speaker 1: They like, damn, this nigga smoke crack. I didn't know
Speaker 1: that he tried to give me to smoke some cracks.
Speaker 1: That's why you gotta work. And then don't go with
Speaker 1: your boss.
Speaker 7: Don't hang out and have cocktails with your body fragnizing.
Speaker 8: That's that's the real problem.
Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more of the Baller Alert Show.
Speaker 2: You're listening to a special edition of the Baller Alert Show.
Speaker 8: What's Up?
Speaker 5: Y'all's Amy Luciani and you are now tuned into.
Speaker 1: The Baller Alert Show.
Speaker 4: Back with more of the Butler Alert Show. Amy Luciani
Speaker 4: hanging out with us.
Speaker 1: What Up? Alert? And we've been doing some talking going on.
Speaker 5: We've been I'm on my mind. I'm just thinking all
Speaker 5: this mass is going on in the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but now it's all about you, man.
Speaker 6: We want to know a little bit more about Amy
Speaker 6: l Yes, are you half Italian?
Speaker 5: Or where's I am? Fully black baby? Okay with an
Speaker 5: Italian stage name? Okay, but it's it's the story behind
Speaker 5: it all right, Well, let us know where that came from.
Speaker 1: First?
Speaker 4: Where are you from Detroit?
Speaker 5: You said, Yep, I've been in Atlanta for some years,
Speaker 5: just pursuing the music, really just working my business, working
Speaker 5: my brand. My government name is Ambarrolls, reallytic, yeah, hyphen a.
Speaker 5: That's my first name, the real Ambarrolls. So I always
Speaker 5: tell people, like so many people are confused when they
Speaker 5: watch my Instagram or different platforms I'm on and my
Speaker 5: original og fans that's been here from the beginning, They'll
Speaker 5: be like, oh, I love that Ambrose or Ambrose, you
Speaker 5: look so pretty at that and people like this, I mean,
Speaker 5: why do you call her Ambrose?
Speaker 8: I'm so confused. I'm like, see, y'all don't even know.
Speaker 8: You don't even know.
Speaker 5: It's no middle name, just ambar Rolls.
Speaker 8: My grandmother's name is Rose Marie.
Speaker 5: When Ambrose was like really popping and really like doing
Speaker 5: her thing, this around Kanye time, I was doing a
Speaker 5: lot of musical shows and open mic. This is like
Speaker 5: the first stage of being a rapper. Like I'm in Detroit,
Speaker 5: Yeah no, I was in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I moved here right out of high school.
Speaker 5: Okay, So I was just doing a lot of performances.
Speaker 5: And of course it's my government name, so it's Ambrose
Speaker 5: on all the flyers, and it would be so many
Speaker 5: awkward positions where I would be in, like where people
Speaker 5: might show up at different events and be like I
Speaker 5: saw the name of Ambar rolls on here, like you're black,
Speaker 5: I'm so confused. Who were you? And I'm like, that's
Speaker 5: my name? What's this other girl named Ambrose? And I
Speaker 5: start getting hip to her and I'm like what the hell?
Speaker 5: And from there, I was sitting there and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm so tired of asking, i mean, being being asked
Speaker 5: a question like why are you going with the name Ambrose?
Speaker 8: Why'd you copy this girl from?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 8: And I just got tired of pulling out the id,
Speaker 8: like now, what were you saying?
Speaker 1: Baby? So that's what made you say?
Speaker 5: That's not her real name, No, shade, that's not her
Speaker 5: real name. So I'm like, I'm copying the name.
Speaker 1: That's not even her name.
Speaker 5: This is my government name. So one day I just
Speaker 5: came up with the artist's name. I was just like,
Speaker 5: you know, let's switch it up, let's do a little
Speaker 5: quick reinvention.
Speaker 4: How'd you come with Amy?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 5: I was always giving guys the name Amy in the club,
Speaker 5: just like if I don't want to talk to him,
Speaker 5: I was always Amy, So that was your alter ego. Always,
Speaker 5: so many guys like you remember me Amy? I know
Speaker 5: that was something I was ignoring. If a dude used
Speaker 5: to say Amy to me, I knew I wasn't interest.
Speaker 1: You'd be like you called me? What that was the that.
Speaker 5: Was the yeah, or dude saying like hey Amy and
Speaker 5: so and so like oh, I definitely not really want
Speaker 5: to get him my number. So Amy was always a
Speaker 5: funny thing with me and my friends like Amy. They
Speaker 5: bring me to somebody like, yeah, you told me you're
Speaker 5: you're Amy?
Speaker 1: Yes, friend, I'm Amy. That's my name.
Speaker 4: I think we all do that.
Speaker 1: I haven't you do.
Speaker 4: Different names though.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing that women do.
Speaker 8: It's a thing we do when we don't want to
Speaker 8: be friends.
Speaker 1: Know where you're going? Who are you gonna be? Okay,
Speaker 1: I beat this, I'm all right. I never knew that.
Speaker 8: Oh it's the thing. C B T.
Speaker 1: You look good.
Speaker 5: You know you probably wasn't getting that. We was giving
Speaker 5: that to guys in the club for sure, So what's
Speaker 5: the aim. I'd be like, oh, hey, sometimes I forget myself.
Speaker 5: So when I was thinking of yeah.
Speaker 6: Everybody ain't seen that Living single episode where Max gave
Speaker 6: her name as Chakuan, and the dude was like, Shaquan.
Speaker 4: You gonna ignore me all night.
Speaker 1: I'm lame.
Speaker 8: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it.
Speaker 5: Either, Okay, I gotta watch I haven't seen it.
Speaker 8: Don't don't take all black car now take it because
Speaker 8: I still haven't. I'm not going there. I haven't seen
Speaker 8: a movie that.
Speaker 4: Oh that was U.
Speaker 5: That's living that's a show. Yeah, but it's a movie
Speaker 5: I haven't seen. If I told y'all, but I'm not
Speaker 5: tell us, y'all would take her.
Speaker 1: No, you're.
Speaker 5: No, I haven't seen Best Men. Oh are boys in
Speaker 5: the Hood yet?
Speaker 1: You ain't seen boys in the hood.
Speaker 4: She's giving amy.
Speaker 1: She's definitely given amy.
Speaker 5: And if I react like that, I haven't seen boys
Speaker 5: in the Hood yet.
Speaker 1: That's a classic.
Speaker 5: I tried to y'all, try to literally try to sit
Speaker 5: and watch it. Something always happened. I never can watch
Speaker 5: the like.
Speaker 1: And then you'll see a lot of the stars in
Speaker 1: there that are that are like.
Speaker 6: Starch Chestnut and all the start. You know, she don't
Speaker 6: seen Best Men.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I haven't seen best You could play that
Speaker 1: game before.
Speaker 8: Fox, Yeah I have seen that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take gonna take back in the day.
Speaker 4: You wasn't watching movies.
Speaker 5: Girl, I've been doing the music since a kid, literally
Speaker 5: on TV doing this. My mom did not play. We
Speaker 5: was me and my sisters were in a singing group.
Speaker 8: We were on a tour.
Speaker 5: We used to be the open act for five Wow
Speaker 5: Maine dupri B two k Entrance was four little middle
Speaker 5: schoolers wrapping Detroit, all four of us. So I didn't
Speaker 5: get to really see a lot of the stuff. But
Speaker 5: you know, I sit down sometime and when friends tell me, like, girl,
Speaker 5: ain't no way you haven't heard this or watch this,
Speaker 5: I'll sit down and catch up.
Speaker 8: But I'm typically late to a lot of Yeah, mama
Speaker 8: was Joe or something. She was definitely yes, And that's funny.
Speaker 5: My mom name is last name was Jackson and first
Speaker 5: name started with a J. So people my friends used
Speaker 5: to be like, your mom is scary, she's Joe Jackson.
Speaker 8: Like, are y'all still up there rehearsing? Yes, we still
Speaker 8: are Wow.
Speaker 7: But really that's good because listening to your story, it
Speaker 7: kind of reminds me of like Coco Jones story, right,
Speaker 7: Like how she was talking about how long she was
Speaker 7: doing music and stuff like that. And it really just
Speaker 7: shows you how long it actually takes to actually really
Speaker 7: do this business.
Speaker 5: It is not something that happens overnight. I just posted
Speaker 5: a clip of my sisters and I on the Jenny
Speaker 5: Jones Show.
Speaker 8: I was twelve. I was twelve performing and.
Speaker 5: So when someone sent in they said, ayy is this
Speaker 5: you on this show? And I'm like, I was sewing beers.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god, yes that was me
Speaker 5: and your sisters.
Speaker 1: Where are they at? Do they still do music?
Speaker 5: So I will always tell people it doesn't happen overnight,
Speaker 5: Like the success, don't even put a date on it.
Speaker 5: If you really love what you're doing, is just gonna happen.
Speaker 5: But if you sitting there like I'm giving myself the
Speaker 5: next summer to become a baby, you and ron business already,
Speaker 5: you already starting wrong.
Speaker 4: So did your mom push you to go to Atlanta
Speaker 4: to still do music?
Speaker 1: She did.
Speaker 5: My mom still manages me to this day. I'm still
Speaker 5: my mama jer for all my sisters. One is a
Speaker 5: tattoo artist, one is a set in design creative person.
Speaker 5: So my mom definitely I told her right out of
Speaker 5: high school, like, yeah, I'm leaving Detroit.
Speaker 1: There's no way I'm gonna be here, like trying to be.
Speaker 5: Great, and she was like, oh, you should go, and
Speaker 5: then she moved the same year here. Okay, so now
Speaker 5: we are all Now all of us are here, all your sisters,
Speaker 5: all of us.
Speaker 4: That's support right there. A lot of people don't get that.
Speaker 8: My mom day one support.
Speaker 1: So finding your.
Speaker 4: Footing in music, what was the what was that breakthrough moment?
Speaker 5: I would say the breakthrough moment for me was really
Speaker 5: when I stopped trying to go after a deal and
Speaker 5: really like, have these goals of I'm gonna sign to
Speaker 5: this person. I was putting too much on the calendar
Speaker 5: of like dates and timelines and deadlines, And when I
Speaker 5: stopped doing that and was like, no, you're just gonna
Speaker 5: go out there.
Speaker 8: You're gonna be a music artist.
Speaker 5: You're gonna meet people on network and let it come
Speaker 5: to you versus I think every independent artist or artist
Speaker 5: at that has a moment where it's like you feel
Speaker 5: this little desperation you've been doing it for a minute.
Speaker 5: You kind of felt like, no, like I'm gonna go
Speaker 5: ahead and sign to them. I'm a When I stopped
Speaker 5: looking at things like deadline dates, kind of I feel
Speaker 5: like things change.
Speaker 8: So now everything I do is like, this is what
Speaker 8: I want to do.
Speaker 1: It's gonna come to me.
Speaker 8: It's like everything changed in my career.
Speaker 5: When I stop, I say being thirsty for it, but
Speaker 5: people say, heyman, you've never been thirsty.
Speaker 8: But I felt that I wanted it too bad at
Speaker 8: one point and I was like, dang.
Speaker 5: I'm like putting these dates and stuff. And I met
Speaker 5: a person they were like, just do it. Stop trying
Speaker 5: to put a date and cap a date on what's
Speaker 5: going to happen. You love doing this, girl, Just wake
Speaker 5: up and do it. And I feel like that's what
Speaker 5: just changed everything for me.
Speaker 7: That's what a lot of the Grace talk about as well,
Speaker 7: about how people are, you know, they want to be
Speaker 7: successful in this business so bad bad, and they forget
Speaker 7: to like have fun, enjoy it. I think about the money,
Speaker 7: and I think about those things because those things are
Speaker 7: going to eventually come.
Speaker 1: But I forgot who posted this on Instagram.
Speaker 7: Somebody said, if you're not willing to be broke for
Speaker 7: ten years, then don't get into the entertainment business. This
Speaker 7: is true, and that was probably the realist quote that
Speaker 7: I've ever seen about the the entertainment business.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you know as an artist, what we really
Speaker 5: go through, like one hundred doors to get one. The
Speaker 5: average person can't take one hundred doors. It just breaks
Speaker 5: their hun My bad. Yeah, a lot of people cannot
Speaker 5: take a hundred no's. It feels like, Okay, you have
Speaker 5: a moment in your career, like maybe this ain't for me,
Speaker 5: but the ones that make it and they really go
Speaker 5: and have these long careers, I'll be sitting there like
Speaker 5: I have nothing bad to say because to make it
Speaker 5: that far, trust me, they sent a lot of meetings
Speaker 5: where they were told not good enough, not pretty enough,
Speaker 5: or he doesn't look good. And to make it, it's
Speaker 5: like if you knew what we go through, to break
Speaker 5: a little bit of a stride is not an easy
Speaker 5: thing to do. So I just got so much respect
Speaker 5: for a lot of artists. That's why I don't really
Speaker 5: pick the size on this girl that Nikki's the Cardi's.
Speaker 1: So that doesn't That doesn't upset you.
Speaker 7: Know you don't feel like the industry is like colorists, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I do, but.
Speaker 5: I don't let it upset me. Yeah, Like I'm so different.
Speaker 5: The industry is very colorless, But I don't cry about
Speaker 5: it because I live it every day. Every day I
Speaker 5: wake up like this. I deal with it on so
Speaker 5: many levels. But it's been happening so long that I
Speaker 5: feel like to start crying and complaining and overshadowing the
Speaker 5: music and what I'm here to do with the blogs
Speaker 5: eating up And he's talking about colorism again, like I've
Speaker 5: already talked about it.
Speaker 8: People were like agreeing.
Speaker 5: A lot of big celebrities like right, and like, girl,
Speaker 5: I've been through that. Keep your head up now. It's
Speaker 5: like you just gotta live around it and in it.
Speaker 5: But it is a real thing in.
Speaker 7: The industry, so you really feel like the labels are
Speaker 7: pushing light skin rappers or.
Speaker 5: For sure the numbers, the numbers prove it's a historic thing.
Speaker 8: It's not a new thing.
Speaker 5: It's a historic thing that lighter looks brighter and looks
Speaker 5: more appealing to the eye, and it looks more endorsable
Speaker 5: and more. It's true, you're gonna get maybe you have
Speaker 5: to get like one or two token black girls that
Speaker 5: really wrap in the game.
Speaker 8: Every so a couple of years, every couple of years, but.
Speaker 5: It's so many more of us that are so talented,
Speaker 5: and the conversation like why isn't so and so made
Speaker 5: and so and so, she's so talent talented, I'd be
Speaker 5: sitting there looking like I can assure you right now,
Speaker 5: if she bleached herself just a little bit.
Speaker 8: When a little blonde and did a little.
Speaker 5: Lighter, you will see a stride start happening little by little.
Speaker 1: It's factual.
Speaker 6: Yes, you share an experience of a color situation that
Speaker 6: you've personally dealt.
Speaker 5: With, Oh for sure, I'll share two actually, but one
Speaker 5: quick one. The first one that I encountered. It was like,
Speaker 5: WHOA a few years ago when I was doing like
Speaker 5: I would do video girl work, meaning on a professional level,
Speaker 5: if they needed a video model, I had a person.
Speaker 8: It was kind of booking me and I would go.
Speaker 5: And I remember one particular video I was invited out
Speaker 5: and it was a bunch of girls there and this
Speaker 5: is like one of the biggest rappers in the world
Speaker 5: still to this day. And I remember being in the
Speaker 5: back and it was me and it was about two
Speaker 5: other One girl was my color, but one was probably
Speaker 5: dark as this mic, but she was just gorgeous, drop
Speaker 5: that dead gorgeous, right, And I remember kind of being
Speaker 5: in the back and they had sub sandwiches for everybody,
Speaker 5: and we have to be in this one area where
Speaker 5: you can hear this. The artist when he walked on
Speaker 5: the set, he said it. It was not he tried
Speaker 5: to hide it. He didn't try to whisper it. He
Speaker 5: came on, was like, where the other girls at? Where
Speaker 5: the rest of the girls at the red Where the
Speaker 5: red girls at? You already know what I told y'all
Speaker 5: to bring. They were like, we have a lot of them.
Speaker 5: We have only like five brown skinned girl. He straight
Speaker 5: up was like, they're not doing get the girls. I
Speaker 5: asked for her to come and not hear. The girl like,
Speaker 5: I don't know she was an assistant, I don't know
Speaker 5: who she was, but we can hear. We were right
Speaker 5: there on the set, but we're kind of away, but
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there eating the sandwich like.
Speaker 1: He ain't even trying to whisper this.
Speaker 5: And the girls were like, we're used to this, and
Speaker 5: I said, it's sad, I've never encountered this. But the
Speaker 5: girl dark like this was like I deal with it
Speaker 5: every video I pop.
Speaker 8: Up too, And I was like, you still do it.
Speaker 8: He literally was like, this ain't what I asked for.
Speaker 5: Where's the light skinned girls, like one or two of
Speaker 5: them can stay, but all five of them no. I
Speaker 5: had never heard that before, and I'm thinking I ain't
Speaker 5: even that dark. But if I was, they dismissed us
Speaker 5: off to say, I promise you.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: First of all, we sat for about two hours, and
Speaker 5: I was sitting there like I should really get up
Speaker 5: and leave myself. But just being transparent, I was broke
Speaker 5: around that time. I had bills, we were getting paid
Speaker 5: a decent check, and I'm like, I'm gonna see this
Speaker 5: through because I need the money. But a little bit
Speaker 5: of me sat there and was just like, this is
Speaker 5: disgusting that we're here dealing with this and this person
Speaker 5: is blacker than me.
Speaker 1: This artist is darker than me.
Speaker 8: Who said it two times darker than me? And I
Speaker 8: just was like, dang, for sure, And.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure you probably was a fan of them,
Speaker 7: and then it probably kind of turned you off with
Speaker 7: their music.
Speaker 5: Look, I was definitely turned if I don't listen to
Speaker 5: this artist to this day. And this artist has said
Speaker 5: several things out loud about brown skinned women and liking
Speaker 5: them read better. He's still doing it to this day.
Speaker 5: But I stopped being a fan years ago. But to
Speaker 5: see when I see like black women still like common
Speaker 5: and supporting them. I just be still confused. But again,
Speaker 5: I'm a lane rider. I know how to shut my mouth,
Speaker 5: but I know I don't support.
Speaker 8: Them at all.
Speaker 5: So another time I was had opportunity through an agency
Speaker 5: I was with that they were looking for a model
Speaker 5: to be like on a book cover. It was a
Speaker 5: black author and they were the agency. You know, they
Speaker 5: pulled me in a couple of girls, and they accidentally
Speaker 5: put me in the wrong email chat where the person
Speaker 5: who book it was his agency hit the agency or
Speaker 5: the manager was like, he does not want a brown
Speaker 5: skinned girl like he wants blazing.
Speaker 8: He wants a black and agent, you know, a girl
Speaker 8: that's mixed.
Speaker 5: And everybody in the chat voted me to be on
Speaker 5: the cover of the book.
Speaker 8: I promise you.
Speaker 5: They were like, we don't care what all these people
Speaker 5: and it's chatter saying he does not want a brownskin
Speaker 5: girl on here. And this was again a person who
Speaker 5: was two times darker than me. So I was like,
Speaker 5: how did I It was several girls going for the
Speaker 5: book opportunity. However, that went and I was excited because
Speaker 5: after weeks of them doing a negotiation, when they added
Speaker 5: me to the email, they were like, Amy, they picked you,
Speaker 5: like everybody on here wanted you.
Speaker 8: And then a person came in.
Speaker 5: I'm sure she meant to send it separately, but she
Speaker 5: went into the email and was like, he does not
Speaker 5: want a brown skin girl on the cover.
Speaker 8: Like we made that clear.
Speaker 5: And next thing, you know, next day I got to text, sorry, Amy,
Speaker 5: you know we all picked you, but they want to
Speaker 5: go a different ride.
Speaker 8: I was like, I was on the email. I saw
Speaker 8: you weren't supposed to be on that one.
Speaker 1: Sorry.
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, that's weird, but okay, I just
Speaker 8: got to learn to live around it for real food.
Speaker 8: But it's the thing is very real.
Speaker 6: And does that make you feel any type of way
Speaker 6: towards lighter skin people.
Speaker 1: No, not at all.
Speaker 5: If anything, makes me feel sad for us as a community,
Speaker 5: because this is been something we've been dealing with for
Speaker 5: a long time. This isn't an overnight conversation. It's one
Speaker 5: of them conversations that when people have it, us brown
Speaker 5: skinned girls kind of look like crybabies, sort of save face.
Speaker 5: A lot of us don't talk about it, but it's
Speaker 5: a conversation that if you probably put ten dark skinned
Speaker 5: women in the room some of the stories will be
Speaker 5: probably horrific of how they tried to pin us against
Speaker 5: when it's like, my mentality is, you can be dark skinned,
Speaker 5: light skin, white brown.
Speaker 8: And be beautiful.
Speaker 5: You can be light skin and not be that appealing
Speaker 5: to the eyes. You can be dark skin and not
Speaker 5: be appealing. But it's sad that it's our community that
Speaker 5: does it. You don't hear white people saying it. You
Speaker 5: don't hear even really Caribbean people. It's more of us,
Speaker 5: that conversation of she's lighter, she looks better. It's not
Speaker 5: even other ethnicity saying it. So to me, it's like,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I just try to be more inclusive
Speaker 5: with my music. I do a lot of music big
Speaker 5: and brown skinned women up. I have been on the
Speaker 5: chopping block for that. I just recently ended up on
Speaker 5: a blog for a comment that I responded to a
Speaker 5: song I put out, and the girl said, it's funny
Speaker 5: that you only put dark skinned women in the video.
Speaker 5: You're being just how you're saying people are. But my
Speaker 5: thought process was typically, y'all wonn't putting none of them
Speaker 5: in the video. I made sure I put all of them,
Speaker 5: and I purposely put some girls that weren't what you
Speaker 5: would call a fine girl. Some of them was big,
Speaker 5: some of them had what people would consider nappy hair.
Speaker 5: I was like, I love it. I want you to
Speaker 5: be in a video with your afro and on. And
Speaker 5: people were like, where are the light skin girls? Where
Speaker 5: are the white girls? You're really the prejudice one. And
Speaker 5: I'm like, listen, you can't win this war, but I'm
Speaker 5: going to make them feel beautiful for a time in
Speaker 5: a video. And I did it, and I felt good
Speaker 5: looking at the video, like they deserve a shine and
Speaker 5: be made to feel pretty, even if the world is
Speaker 5: saying they're not so child, I'm doing it for us.
Speaker 5: I'm in the a black woman experience. I'm a dark
Speaker 5: skinned girl with regular black woman hair under this wig,
Speaker 5: and I'm doing it for us. My experience isn'ten of
Speaker 5: white women or of light skiin so my music does
Speaker 5: typically be black girl puts you know, keep your head up,
Speaker 5: nappy head, black girl, The hair is beautiful. I have
Speaker 5: to say it because I live the experience of people
Speaker 5: don't say it to us enough, So.
Speaker 8: Why would I not say it in my music?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 5: I don't really understand how people will be confused with
Speaker 5: me sometime when I'm like, you're black and beautiful, and
Speaker 5: I say it all the time, and.
Speaker 8: It's like, what about us.
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about y'all right now, I'm talking about
Speaker 5: what I'm seeing, and y'all need to see the reflection
Speaker 5: of how I look.
Speaker 8: You know, you look beautiful. Oh you can't win that.
Speaker 4: Basically right now. I think that's part of being a
Speaker 4: change you.
Speaker 6: Want to see, you know, and with you're doing that
Speaker 6: in your music and stuff like that, and it's just
Speaker 6: amazing to see how you persevere through all that and
Speaker 6: becoming a success that you are today.
Speaker 4: And that is very commend you to that.
Speaker 6: Thank you was one of your what was your successful moment?
Speaker 4: Like the moment that you was like, Okay, I got
Speaker 4: it now.
Speaker 5: I would say my first successful moment would be my
Speaker 5: first big writing session. A lot of people to know
Speaker 5: I wrote for people, but you know in that that
Speaker 5: part of the industry, you can't really be as vocal
Speaker 5: like hey, I wrote her song like my Name is on.
Speaker 5: So I felt really good that I always wanted to
Speaker 5: write for a big artists And when I got a
Speaker 5: call to be in a writing session with four of
Speaker 5: like some of the biggest songwriters in our area. Like
Speaker 5: when I called, I kind of felt like I am
Speaker 5: not supposed to be in this room.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: It was crazy when I got there, and that was
Speaker 5: my first time my career feeling like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: it's actually you are being heard. Sometimes it feels like
Speaker 5: you aren't as an independent artist when you haven't made
Speaker 5: it big or the number one record, you know, like
Speaker 5: people say are charting and jen. So when I walked
Speaker 5: in the room and I sat there and people were like,
Speaker 5: heymy we heard some of your references, we heard some
Speaker 5: of your songs, we heard so and so song. We
Speaker 5: didn't know you wrote that or co wrote it. I
Speaker 5: was like, wow, I didn't even know y'all even knew
Speaker 5: me or were talking about me. So that really encouraged me.
Speaker 5: They were like, girl, we've been talking about you for
Speaker 5: about two years actually, and I was like, dang, you
Speaker 5: don't really know that some people know you and things.
Speaker 8: My mentality changed.
Speaker 6: I was like, get the stuff that your Did you
Speaker 6: have a manager or was it your mom?
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 5: I had a situation where Red Bull Publishing and was
Speaker 5: sitting down and was negotiating some work with them, and
Speaker 5: two other songwriters shout out to London Jay two, he
Speaker 5: writes to London, Yeah, definitely my homie and that's that's
Speaker 5: like a mentor to me.
Speaker 8: Spart.
Speaker 1: About a lot of a lot of he is the one.
Speaker 5: He is the one, like London, I do this to
Speaker 5: him when I see him, like so shout out to him.
Speaker 8: But yeah.
Speaker 5: I end up in a writing session with him and
Speaker 5: a couple other people and when they were like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we heard some stuff you wrote. What do you mean
Speaker 5: you're shocked to be here? I was like, I just
Speaker 5: because I haven't had this opportunity before. That changed everything
Speaker 5: for me because I used to From there, I was like,
Speaker 5: you got to stop working and being great to hear
Speaker 5: somebody say we heard it, Amy, because I learned that day.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they don't even tell you they heard you, but
Speaker 5: they're hearing you in fans and they were pulling up references,
Speaker 5: like we got this reference in our email with all
Speaker 5: these songwriters months ago and it was you.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what y'all in LA They're like yes, Amy.
Speaker 8: So from there, I'm like, girl, you are that girl period.
Speaker 4: What can you share some of the artists that you
Speaker 4: wrote for?
Speaker 5: I can tell you some writing sessions I've been in.
Speaker 5: That's how you have to do that legally. I'm into something. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I can tell you something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just you know, just a couple of writing sessions.
Speaker 5: I have been in writing sessions for Cardi B And
Speaker 5: that's I'll leave it at that. That was the huge
Speaker 5: that was my most biggest opportunity. And I was the
Speaker 5: only girl in the room with all the male writers.
Speaker 1: So can you.
Speaker 4: Give us an example of what a writing session is
Speaker 4: like for people.
Speaker 5: Who yes, yes, so a writing session you'll get obviously
Speaker 5: you know your confidential email through whoever you're working with,
Speaker 5: if you have a pub deal or a label deal,
Speaker 5: and they will tell you, like which label is looking
Speaker 5: for songs, and they'll tell you what type of songs
Speaker 5: they're looking for a meaning so and so has a
Speaker 5: ten song album and it's about to come out. The
Speaker 5: last two records they wanted to be maybe club boppy
Speaker 5: fun or a deep record. It's like heartbro got dumbed.
Speaker 5: To let you know, and depend on what your writing
Speaker 5: cadence is, you might get the email like, hey, so
Speaker 5: a session coming in.
Speaker 8: You want to be a part of it.
Speaker 5: You don't know who you're walking in there, Like I've
Speaker 5: walked in with London j before and been like, what's.
Speaker 1: Up, London.
Speaker 8: I don't know how excited I am.
Speaker 1: To be here with you.
Speaker 5: But you don't know who you're coming into, and sometimes
Speaker 5: you don't even know the artists that you're writing for.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you might have a publishing deal of a pub
Speaker 5: deal and get in there and it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: you writing for I don't want to name somebody who
Speaker 5: writes for themselves, but whoever's been vocal about not writing
Speaker 5: for themselves. You might come in and be like, who's
Speaker 5: working on this?
Speaker 1: That never happens.
Speaker 5: You might come in and be like, I'm real, like
Speaker 5: how many songs does she need? Well, they really only
Speaker 5: need one, and it's literally twenty people sometimes trying to
Speaker 5: get theirs.
Speaker 1: To people writing on one song. For sure.
Speaker 4: Sean Garrett kind of shared that with us.
Speaker 6: It's like a whole bunch of people and they're just
Speaker 6: like fighting for that on the.
Speaker 5: Album, and sometimes you're not fighting that. That's the sentence
Speaker 5: a chance to be on an album, because sometimes you
Speaker 5: could write the whole verse and when you hear it
Speaker 5: and how y'all negotiating work it, it ended up being
Speaker 5: you only got one sentence of what you said it
Speaker 5: was dope out of it, and then this other songwriter
Speaker 5: he got the second sentence.
Speaker 8: You're like, damn.
Speaker 6: But then you know, the artists want to get their
Speaker 6: their credit too, so they can just take something they
Speaker 6: hear and then say, well, I want to rework it like.
Speaker 5: This, and now you're getting them on the split sheet
Speaker 5: always gets real ugly and dirty. You can, and that's
Speaker 5: why songwriters are always trying to write.
Speaker 7: I feel like at this point everybody has writers and
Speaker 7: it because you know, some of the biggest I don't
Speaker 7: understand why it's a big deal. Yeah, because when you
Speaker 7: look at some of the biggest artists in the world
Speaker 7: from you know, years ago, like you look at people
Speaker 7: like Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson wasn't writing no song right.
Speaker 6: The objective of the music game is to sell records,
Speaker 6: and whatever sells the best is what they want so
Speaker 6: bad you're writing something that sounds like on what's on
Speaker 6: the radio, you're more than likely gonna get that.
Speaker 5: Job and you're going to be on like a two
Speaker 5: year run because it's sounds in the end industry where
Speaker 5: it's a moment where it's like everything y'all remember the
Speaker 5: Roscoe Dash moment where everybody it was just a sign
Speaker 5: of music.
Speaker 1: Snap music.
Speaker 5: They're going to send in the power writers that are
Speaker 5: quiet in the back, like, oh, this is what I do.
Speaker 5: I write all the snap the finger type he is.
Speaker 5: It's like a cadence for every type of songwriter. London
Speaker 5: Jay works well with everybody, but he's really good with women,
Speaker 5: the female rappers. Able to write so much of that
Speaker 5: and he's like the most.
Speaker 1: That's what I heard.
Speaker 7: I heard, That's what That's why I was like, lont.
Speaker 6: What makes him a beast is because he's selling the records.
Speaker 1: He's selling the record and if.
Speaker 4: You are making the most money, they want you.
Speaker 5: Every time and he don't miss so so so basically
Speaker 5: you can write the record and then it can be ten.
Speaker 5: I've been in the session before and it was fourteen
Speaker 5: people there and I was just like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: And when I say they are hungry, they're not in
Speaker 5: their plan with you. I had to learn I was
Speaker 5: missing opportunities when I started because I'm I'm kind of
Speaker 5: I'm the humble girl, like I know my power.
Speaker 8: I sit there sometime and be like, you don't even
Speaker 8: know you're talking to sometime.
Speaker 5: But I was coming to them sessions so humble, and
Speaker 5: I was saying how aggressive they are and I had
Speaker 5: to learn quick.
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, because I remember I.
Speaker 5: Was in a session one time, my kid, you not
Speaker 5: I opened a moment as a songwriter.
Speaker 8: I went there.
Speaker 5: It was like, lay that part down, that was good,
Speaker 5: we like what you said. I go in there and somebody,
Speaker 5: a guy came in and was like, yeah, they want
Speaker 5: me to say my part, and I was like, what
Speaker 5: come out?
Speaker 8: I came out. They were like, yeah, we like that better,
Speaker 8: so you cancel that part that she said.
Speaker 5: Put his one sentence on there. It was aggressive. They
Speaker 5: was in there like we want the most on this publishing.
Speaker 5: We want to be the one to get the most
Speaker 5: out of it. And you got to be in there
Speaker 5: ready to fight.
Speaker 7: Not literally, yeah, because a lot of people behind the
Speaker 7: scenes they not making money like these artists. You're not
Speaker 7: going to do shows and stuff like that, so your
Speaker 7: only stream of income is like, I gotta get on
Speaker 7: this record to get this because it takes you know,
Speaker 7: a while to get paid.
Speaker 1: Is awesome.
Speaker 5: Not only that the producer getting fifty percent of it immediately,
Speaker 5: automatic immediately well and that's what we producers get fifty.
Speaker 6: You break down the split, so it's fifty percent for
Speaker 6: the songwriter, fifty percent for the producer.
Speaker 1: Now imagine ten people writing on that record, like you
Speaker 1: get ten percent, you get five, y'all.
Speaker 8: That's the five.
Speaker 5: And that's why it's like this big outrage, not even
Speaker 5: just with TV.
Speaker 8: It's a real thing.
Speaker 5: It's not you got ten people on here writing and
Speaker 5: you getting fifty because you made to B and I'm
Speaker 5: sitting there like you ain't really seeing no money.
Speaker 1: So what is this beef over songwriters with these females?
Speaker 5: Like the beef is so caddy, and a lot of
Speaker 5: it is calculated by the labels because the beef sales.
Speaker 8: So before you.
Speaker 5: Drop, if your name was so and so and you
Speaker 5: drop the week before you drop, you're most likely gonna
Speaker 5: be told of beef with me, fall out with me,
Speaker 5: do something weird where it's like, if everybody's talking about you,
Speaker 5: that means let me just say if I do Yeah,
Speaker 5: if I'm doing probably one point nine million impressions a week,
Speaker 5: the people who are superstars, they're probably doing twenty million.
Speaker 5: If I start a beef with you, that's twenty million
Speaker 5: people now watching to hear the beef, and then.
Speaker 1: You slide in your record on them.
Speaker 5: It's such a system that it makes they're watching you
Speaker 5: because you're beefing, sliding the album, sliding the new merch,
Speaker 5: slide in the tape to just drop. It's a system
Speaker 5: and girls have fallen so deep into it that now
Speaker 5: they're not relying on the lyrics no more like the music.
Speaker 5: It's like I could do some fake beef and go
Speaker 5: number one for real, for real. That's just how the
Speaker 5: game is going, because we're in a time where people
Speaker 5: love to see the girls take their heads off, take
Speaker 5: each other's heads. Think of this, and I always tell people,
Speaker 5: think of all the movies. Think of the movies people
Speaker 5: got Oscars for nobody's mad at them that somebody wrote
Speaker 5: them a movie that got them an Oscar. Nobody's mad
Speaker 5: Like this is hip hop where you got Angela? Bas said,
Speaker 5: you got Hayley Bear, you got all these greats, right
Speaker 5: Iola Davis. People wrote these movies for them, They Wakanda
Speaker 5: and they did all of It's sitting there in La
Speaker 5: saying who wrote the best movie for Angela? Who know
Speaker 5: you have never heard that? Them fighting over who wrote
Speaker 5: the scripts for the movies. Why are we talking about
Speaker 5: that in hip hop though? Why is that like the
Speaker 5: big thing with the girls? Like girl, when you get
Speaker 5: mad at somebody and you don't even write, it's.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's that's all.
Speaker 7: That's all the beef that I ever see, Like all
Speaker 7: the beef that I see on the internet with female
Speaker 7: rappers is all about who writes what.
Speaker 5: And let me say this, I have never had a
Speaker 5: writer for my own music. I've never had I've never
Speaker 5: dealt with female that. I've never had one.
Speaker 1: Every female rapper stand on.
Speaker 5: But let me say this though, if the hit come,
Speaker 5: I take my Take me a damn rapper, take me
Speaker 5: a damn writer.
Speaker 8: People are so scared to be real these days. It's scary.
Speaker 4: Listen there of the game is a number one.
Speaker 1: Number one record, number one record?
Speaker 5: I think business? Or do you care about the girls
Speaker 5: being like Amy? If I got a number one but
Speaker 5: I once I wrote it, London, J can come right now.
Speaker 1: And write it. I would be right there rapping it.
Speaker 4: People.
Speaker 6: People have to understand that and change with the times.
Speaker 6: Like hip hop is far from you know, the street corners.
Speaker 4: We're in the business office. This is a business.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, and we're just trying to
Speaker 6: get the best deals, so I understand that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I had two labels.
Speaker 5: Came about three months ago to one of my sessions
Speaker 5: at Anywhere at the studio I go to, and I
Speaker 5: went in there and I recorded the song. At first, off,
Speaker 5: I don't even write my music. Oh, I don't write
Speaker 5: at all. And when I came out the label one
Speaker 5: of the labels, two guys he's like, yeah, that so
Speaker 5: and so was telling me that you're gonna write that
Speaker 5: you started writing two years ago, but we just had
Speaker 5: to see it because you're a girl.
Speaker 8: And I was like, well, damn, what did that mean?
Speaker 5: And they were like, well, we just watched it doesn't
Speaker 5: really happen like that. And I was like, well, how
Speaker 5: does it happen? Because I'm still fairly new to a
Speaker 5: lot of the process with the major female artist, I
Speaker 5: haven't been in there one on one to watch it,
Speaker 5: so I'm had to learn from them. And they were like,
Speaker 5: it's typically somebody in there telling them the cadence. No,
Speaker 5: you need to say it like this. You've got to
Speaker 5: raise your hand up a little more to make it
Speaker 5: come out more aggressive. And they were like, we were
Speaker 5: looking through the glass. We were looking for the notebook,
Speaker 5: we were looking for your phone. What are you writing
Speaker 5: it on?
Speaker 8: I was like, I'm not. I've been rapping since I
Speaker 8: was ten.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 5: It's like it's kind of my brain at this point.
Speaker 5: But I will get me a songwriter.
Speaker 1: I respect it. Take all these.
Speaker 8: Thoughts out my head and give me that number one record.
Speaker 1: So you're like a jay z in a little Wayne,
Speaker 1: just going.
Speaker 5: I have been told that, and they feel very pressure.
Speaker 5: Pressure when I do.
Speaker 7: That's dope because you know it's it's really hard. I
Speaker 7: feel like to just like just go in there and
Speaker 7: be like, hey, I'm feeling this and just blurred out
Speaker 7: how you feeling and it actually comes out and you
Speaker 7: know it and it's dope.
Speaker 4: How does the payment work as a songwriter.
Speaker 1: It's different.
Speaker 5: So you can have a label if I when I
Speaker 5: say have a label, be signed to a label, or
Speaker 5: you can have a publishing deal which is just more
Speaker 5: about the song writing, or you can be like me,
Speaker 5: an independent artist.
Speaker 8: Me I've never been signed.
Speaker 5: So when I go into situations, for example, when I
Speaker 5: was dealing with Red Bull, I'm more so focused on
Speaker 5: the points which sometimes are more everlasting then the money,
Speaker 5: the little bit of money people are getting. So it's
Speaker 5: basically how they break it down, like you can get
Speaker 5: it for the rest remainder of the song, as long
Speaker 5: as you're getting points on the song. It's almost like
Speaker 5: it's like a contract basically saying i might be one
Speaker 5: of the six writers on here, but I'm getting some
Speaker 5: points on this record. The points kind of add up.
Speaker 5: If you keep doing different songs, which I haven't done yet,
Speaker 5: how many points can you get? So it's situational. I've
Speaker 5: had some people who are small time writers, but because
Speaker 5: they are have had more of a resume of getting hits,
Speaker 5: some of them get points where they get more points
Speaker 5: than like a London jay or a mega songwriter. Because
Speaker 5: it's like, look at my history. I'm not gonna come
Speaker 5: here if y'all don't give me this point or give
Speaker 5: me this percentage.
Speaker 7: It's kind of like the writer strike, right, Like, isn't
Speaker 7: that what they're essentially fighting for?
Speaker 1: Like they're fighting for residuals.
Speaker 5: And residual that's and the points are residual. God music,
Speaker 5: That's that's it. That's the word I was looking for. Anyway,
Speaker 5: points are residual to the same thing. As a person
Speaker 5: who wrote a TV show, I don't want to have
Speaker 5: a song on why it's on the radio getting money
Speaker 5: and then when it's not popular no more, I don't
Speaker 5: get no more money because it's still gonna play at least.
Speaker 1: But that's how a year, that's how artists go broke.
Speaker 7: After the song is no longer popular, the label is
Speaker 7: still getting paid.
Speaker 1: You ain't getting it's still getting paid.
Speaker 7: And it's like when people don't want to hear you
Speaker 7: perform that song anymore, you know, it's kind of like yeah, or.
Speaker 5: You can get smart and be like, no, I'm locking
Speaker 5: in long term because this song could a year from
Speaker 5: now end up being on a commercial Chick fil A, GMC.
Speaker 8: We see it happen.
Speaker 5: But a lot of the people who didn't know how
Speaker 5: to negotiate points, or didn't have a deal or somebody
Speaker 5: trust to represent them, they just coming in a situation like.
Speaker 8: I'll take that.
Speaker 5: I'll take that forty thousand or twenty thousand. And it's
Speaker 5: like if you had got the points on the.
Speaker 4: Red forever, how many points did you get from a
Speaker 4: CARTI This.
Speaker 1: Is legal stuff, okay, legal stuff.
Speaker 4: Okay, but it wasn't nice.
Speaker 5: Was it a no, And let me clarify the song
Speaker 5: session that I did for Cardi.
Speaker 8: My verse didn't get put on that album.
Speaker 5: Okay, so I didn't get no points from the CARTI,
Speaker 5: but I was a writer on the whole project, but.
Speaker 4: My particular tire project.
Speaker 1: No so and it don't go like that either.
Speaker 5: So basically, when they came to Atlanta, they put that
Speaker 5: Atlanta writers. They had sessions for her in California as well.
Speaker 5: They do this well, not just Cardi, all the artists,
Speaker 5: you know. I don't want to just single her out,
Speaker 5: but in the Atlanta writing session, it was about eleven
Speaker 5: of us there. I knew then, like I hope I
Speaker 5: just get a sentence on this song. I didn't know
Speaker 5: coming in it was gonna be that many people anyway,
Speaker 5: But this is the game. So I didn't expect in
Speaker 5: that situation, seeing London and seeing all these big people,
Speaker 5: me even really getting a point on the record. If anything,
Speaker 5: I would have took the money at that point because
Speaker 5: I wasn't. I'm just real, I wasn't the biggest person
Speaker 5: in writing for celebrities, but I was getting there from
Speaker 5: people talking about different situations that I had wrote for people.
Speaker 1: But so as a work for hire basically.
Speaker 5: And I'm independent, so like London and other people, they
Speaker 5: have situations. So when he coming in, I already know,
Speaker 5: like I don't have a person representing me where it's
Speaker 5: like we're negotiating. Miss Luciani's getting this, She's gonna leave
Speaker 5: with two points. Here I'm coming in by myself, So
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there like all of y'all here, He for
Speaker 5: sure getting point and I know he getting and she
Speaker 5: getting it, but me, hmm, you're.
Speaker 4: Just getting up front money.
Speaker 5: Let me, yeah, let me network and take some money
Speaker 5: out the deal, because it's not like I'm signed to
Speaker 5: dev Jim Hourly or it's a lumpsung just for being there.
Speaker 5: Just for being there, you can get paid from your
Speaker 5: label to just come and be a part of the
Speaker 5: the session. Typically that's not gonna happen, but some people
Speaker 5: have just been like, I'm just here giving you'all ideas.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna get no points, but I want some
Speaker 5: money off of this. And may be the ones that
Speaker 5: you don't see the names on the thing either. A
Speaker 5: lot of the big megastars have had like five people
Speaker 5: that I know wrote a lot of them.
Speaker 8: His If you look it'd be like two names on
Speaker 8: the song. And that's not true. It'd be like five
Speaker 8: of them. They wrote that song.
Speaker 5: But the big dogs, they had the big rock a
Speaker 5: Feller label or so, and so they're gonna shine and
Speaker 5: they're gonna be the ones to get all the credit
Speaker 5: that you be having smaller people like I was just
Speaker 5: thankful to be in the room.
Speaker 8: I left with some money.
Speaker 5: I didn't get a long term deal like y'all, but
Speaker 5: I got a couple thousand.
Speaker 1: I'm cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what made me say that when you was
Speaker 7: talking about how like some people just go in there
Speaker 7: and get the money and get it.
Speaker 1: They don't get the credit on the song.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you don't even see the money for a year
Speaker 5: or two. So sometimes I be thinking, like, do you
Speaker 5: want to get a little forty upfront or twenty upfront
Speaker 5: or do you want to wait and maybe the person
Speaker 5: lose they deal next year. It's a lot they might
Speaker 5: get dropped next year. You sitting there like I'm about
Speaker 5: to get this big old check.
Speaker 1: Girl.
Speaker 5: This person had her baby, got married, She don't even
Speaker 5: wrap no more. You should have got the money up front.
Speaker 1: Now say that the.
Speaker 4: Back end doesn't even come. If something happens to the artists.
Speaker 1: It sometimes don't.
Speaker 5: The artists could have a situation with the label where
Speaker 5: they done dropped her and now they're acquiring all of
Speaker 5: her stuff.
Speaker 8: Now you're sitting there like, are.
Speaker 4: They shoving a record?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: What I'm gonna do? I was there, I wrote it
Speaker 8: a year ago.
Speaker 1: What am I?
Speaker 8: Where's my money? Well, she's not with us no more.
Speaker 5: We're doing this, we're trying to figure this and that
Speaker 5: and third out, we're not even gonna put this album
Speaker 5: out now. He decided to go with something else. So
Speaker 5: much business and that's why people be really screaming and
Speaker 5: ripping hair out and be like, do a better system
Speaker 5: for us? This is not this has been going on
Speaker 5: for a long time.
Speaker 1: But you're also on TV now.
Speaker 6: But let's take it to Real Dreams before that, Yeah,
Speaker 6: you know, how'd you come up with that?
Speaker 4: And bag Lady and all that.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So, World of Dreams is a label that I started.
Speaker 5: I actually just started. It's not even a year older,
Speaker 5: be a year and probably about November so last year
Speaker 5: I started it, and I had just been doing a
Speaker 5: lot of research on just labels and music, and I
Speaker 5: always get asked a question, am I gonna stay independent
Speaker 5: or do I want to sign? And I always say
Speaker 5: I will signed, but it has to be a position
Speaker 5: that makes sense. I've been rapping for a while, so
Speaker 5: I've acquired the money. So now I'm not even trying
Speaker 5: to do it for the money. I'm trying to do
Speaker 5: it for a machine that can be like boom. You
Speaker 5: see her open up here, boom. You've seen her on TV,
Speaker 5: you've seen this.
Speaker 1: Press, press the button.
Speaker 5: The money, you can do it independently having fans with
Speaker 5: the money. So world a dream. Someone told me, they said, listen,
Speaker 5: you need to start your own label. You start educating
Speaker 5: yourself on the label, educating yourself on the points, educating
Speaker 5: yourself on the small print on these deals, and you
Speaker 5: might not actually ever want to sign. And when I
Speaker 5: researched that for months and months, I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: hell nah, I've worked too hard to end up in
Speaker 5: this type of label where, yeah, I got a million
Speaker 5: dollars up front that I could have made on my own,
Speaker 5: but I signed for this million.
Speaker 1: And I know that y'all own everything.
Speaker 5: You own Luciana, you own the name Luciani now like
Speaker 5: I'm your slave now. Basically, so I took my one
Speaker 5: of my musical mentors advice I started a world of
Speaker 5: dreams and the purpose of signing having your own label.
Speaker 5: When you sign, I'm sorry, when you start your own label,
Speaker 5: a label normally has a team. We got producers, we
Speaker 5: got songwriters, we got stylists, we got hair, we got glam.
Speaker 5: We giving you the umbrella for everything. You just get
Speaker 5: to show and be pretty. We got a team working
Speaker 5: for you. Or you can start your own label and
Speaker 5: you can go and bring in a producer to the label,
Speaker 5: another producer, the mixing person, the mastering person, a photographer, videographer,
Speaker 5: and have your own team where you can control it yourself.
Speaker 5: So when you go to a major label, they ain't
Speaker 5: gonna play with you. How they would play with the
Speaker 5: Amy lab year who was just sitting there like, I
Speaker 5: don't have a label, I'm not signed.
Speaker 1: It's just me. Oh, We're going to take you all
Speaker 1: the way up through there.
Speaker 5: But now that I have World of dreams, it's like,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, so y'all can't play with these budgets and say,
Speaker 5: the reason why we got to take all this money
Speaker 5: from you and you got to pay us back all
Speaker 5: of this money is because we had to get your producer.
Speaker 5: We had to get you a songwriter, we had to
Speaker 5: get your makeup, we had to get you a videographer.
Speaker 5: We had to get you somebody to make you a star.
Speaker 5: Now I'm in a position to say, no, you didn't.
Speaker 5: You didn't have to spend all that to do that
Speaker 5: for me. So I need more money up front, not
Speaker 5: on the back end, because I did y'all job.
Speaker 1: I have a label.
Speaker 5: It's called World of Dreams, and if you look under
Speaker 5: my umbrella, I have everything that y'all thought y'all was
Speaker 5: about to fake spend a million dollars on and weren't
Speaker 5: really spending a million on it. The respect is so
Speaker 5: different now, and I'll be oh, I should have did
Speaker 5: this two years ago. That's a good thing about learning
Speaker 5: though that, And that's why you're on rush it.
Speaker 7: Exactly because it's people that's going to watch this interview,
Speaker 7: and these are people that it was in your shoes.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's probably in your shoes how you was
Speaker 7: a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5: And a lot of people don't tell you it because
Speaker 5: a lot of people in this game feel like, well,
Speaker 5: I had to sign and paste four years of my
Speaker 5: career with a bad deal I'm not gonna tell you
Speaker 5: and stop. You just figured it out like I did.
Speaker 5: That's crazy. You can stop somebody.
Speaker 4: You guys did bag Lady.
Speaker 8: Yes, let us know about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out to bigger ranking. I put out a
Speaker 5: single car bag Lady, and it was just a song
Speaker 5: for women to just feel ownership and just being a
Speaker 5: business woman.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of.
Speaker 5: People say, like, bag Lady, you gotta have diamonds on
Speaker 5: all of this. I was a bag lady when I
Speaker 5: was literally a bag lady working at Walmart. Like the
Speaker 5: mentality was speaking it into it happening. So if you
Speaker 5: wake up and it's every day, you know, I'm getting
Speaker 5: my own bag, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 5: I wrote the lyrics for More. It's like a more
Speaker 5: of a chant of speaking something into existence. So I
Speaker 5: wrote bag Lady talk about going from here to here
Speaker 5: to their baby steps going up and then in the
Speaker 5: end you got your success. But because you worked for it,
Speaker 5: you know you're the bag lady. Now people can't come
Speaker 5: and hold it over your head and say you did
Speaker 5: this to get here. Now you need to come do
Speaker 5: it like no. It's independency and having patience. These are
Speaker 5: two things that people struggle with because to be independent
Speaker 5: makes your journey longer. But if you stay independent and
Speaker 5: take your time, you can't really just be putting positions
Speaker 5: to be like, yeah, she had to do this to
Speaker 5: get on.
Speaker 6: Were you're putting yourself in bigger positions. Now you're on
Speaker 6: Love and hip Hop? Yes, how did you get that opportunity?
Speaker 8: Opportunity?
Speaker 2: We'll be right back. Stay tuned with more of The
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Speaker 1: What's Up?
Speaker 5: Yall's Amy Luciani and you are now tuned into The
Speaker 5: Baller Alert Show. Love and hip Hop actually has came.
Speaker 5: Shout out to Love and hip Hop two shout out
Speaker 5: too and swhen that media shout out to MTV.
Speaker 1: A bunch of shoutouts and is.
Speaker 5: But Love and hip Hop actually has came for me
Speaker 5: a few times over the last couple of years, and
Speaker 5: each time it was just didn't even make sense to
Speaker 5: me personally. A lot of the times, the situations and
Speaker 5: the stories and the people that I was around it
Speaker 5: they wanted to kind of highlight it just never made
Speaker 5: sense for me. So this year they came talking right,
Speaker 5: and it makes sense this year. So who was the difference.
Speaker 5: The difference this year was me really Now I had
Speaker 5: myself together, my life together, so they had to come
Speaker 5: at me different, whereas before when I was really going
Speaker 5: through trying to figure out just all this just artists
Speaker 5: and a creative people, big, big, big institutes can see it.
Speaker 5: And now they have more power to be like, Yeah,
Speaker 5: we're gonna put you on here and you're about to
Speaker 5: be fighting with her, and we're gonna make you go
Speaker 5: do this and fake date this person.
Speaker 1: And then somebody gonna throw some water in your face
Speaker 1: and I might.
Speaker 8: Have to catch charge again because you know what I'm.
Speaker 5: Saying again again, A charge for before. Listen the ones
Speaker 5: who know me my past lie which was first, that
Speaker 5: is Amber, which is react first, apologize. Second, that's no
Speaker 5: longer me.
Speaker 4: But I in Detroit.
Speaker 5: That was right here in Atlanta and Clayton County, to
Speaker 5: be exact.
Speaker 4: That's outside.
Speaker 5: Yes, I And it's so funny. I just did a
Speaker 5: big charity event with my old bunkie from jail. She's
Speaker 5: went on to do great things.
Speaker 1: How long you was in jail?
Speaker 5: I have I have had my fighting moments. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: I have had some time.
Speaker 4: Oh you're just fighting.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I was fighting and then yeah, but no
Speaker 5: more of that. Okay that my I see, I've walked
Speaker 5: so many shoes. I was a bartender for years. I
Speaker 5: worked in the club, so I was in that lifestyle
Speaker 5: where it was like you drunk, but you're coming at me.
Speaker 5: I gotta let you down. I have been picked up
Speaker 5: from my job and locked up behind bartending in some mess.
Speaker 1: But that is all the.
Speaker 4: Time coming inbar get drunk at me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so that's why I really was not doing
Speaker 5: the show for a long time, because I knew, like,
Speaker 5: she don't really like me.
Speaker 8: That's my old boot, which is not her new boot.
Speaker 8: I'm had to beat her up, and.
Speaker 5: You know, like no, So it makes sense. Now the
Speaker 5: show is really good. It's highlighting a lot of the music,
Speaker 5: the brand, my products, and I just feel like it's
Speaker 5: the light that I wanted them to highlight.
Speaker 1: Cell Now, yes, no, you're talking about your past.
Speaker 7: It seemed like it was about to go back to
Speaker 7: your past in the past episode where.
Speaker 5: You had I was going there, y'all, and I felt
Speaker 5: so disappointed at the end of that because I'm like,
Speaker 5: you felt the.
Speaker 1: Test and it was a test that I have.
Speaker 5: Passed, like seven years in a row, where for seven
Speaker 5: years a girl couldn't even get me upset.
Speaker 8: I would be like next and y'all was arguing over.
Speaker 4: A record?
Speaker 1: Yes, what happened?
Speaker 5: Writing over I mean arguing over writing, arguing over what
Speaker 5: we was just talking about? Long story short, and shout
Speaker 5: out to Rennie because we have since came to a
Speaker 5: cordial level where I can't say friends, but now we
Speaker 5: actually can sit in the scene together and be like.
Speaker 8: Let's see you.
Speaker 5: We're looking at each other. But were able to be
Speaker 5: on the scene, not get our bag before. It was
Speaker 5: not that it was on site. It was on site
Speaker 5: for real, for real, but just to speed through it
Speaker 5: because I don't even want to dwell on that too long.
Speaker 5: But again, I was in a session with a bunch
Speaker 5: of men. I was the only girl. Again, no, I was,
Speaker 5: and I was with one other female writer. Shout out
Speaker 5: to Pineapple City from California. She and I were the
Speaker 5: girls that were there, but we were in a session
Speaker 5: with about eight nine people, and longstory short, she and
Speaker 5: I wrote a song together and in that session we
Speaker 5: were writing.
Speaker 1: For other artists.
Speaker 4: You and Pineapple City, are you me?
Speaker 5: And Pineapple City. Pineapple City and I wrote a record,
Speaker 5: and a year later we didn't do anything with the
Speaker 5: record because we were in there a writing session.
Speaker 8: So we're all on the email.
Speaker 5: We're just doing reference tracks, reference tracks, remember this word.
Speaker 8: And a year later, you.
Speaker 5: Know, once you do your reference track, the label that
Speaker 5: you're there for, they got all your information, you know,
Speaker 5: so a year later, if they don't decide to do
Speaker 5: the song, it's the name of the game. But then
Speaker 5: somebody said me a DM of an artist performing the song,
Speaker 5: and I was like, yeah, Pineapple City wrote.
Speaker 8: I was like, how does this work? Is Rennie Grouccie
Speaker 8: rapping it?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: She and I.
Speaker 5: I reached out to her, as I'm finding out now
Speaker 5: after we almost came to blows. It was the people
Speaker 5: she was working with, her label, Yes Song, presenting her
Speaker 5: songs as if these are reference records. This Pineapple City
Speaker 5: and this Amy Girl. This was just reference records. This
Speaker 5: could have been for any artists, which was so far
Speaker 5: from the truth. Luckily, we in a time where we
Speaker 5: record everything. The whole session, me and her, we got videos.
Speaker 5: We're texting, Okay, what you want to like? What are
Speaker 5: you thinking about the song? Do you want it to
Speaker 5: be a song we used. You got a deal, I'm independent,
Speaker 5: we can run with this record.
Speaker 8: I'm cool with the people over here. Red Bull like, how.
Speaker 1: You want to do the song?
Speaker 5: They were gonna give the song to another female artist
Speaker 5: that they were possibly going to pitch the record to.
Speaker 5: Nothing came about from that song, so we were just like,
Speaker 5: how did it get in Rennie's hand? How did that go?
Speaker 5: So I reached out to the person who was signed
Speaker 5: to the person that she is signed. Well, I don't
Speaker 5: know if she's still with them, so don't let me
Speaker 5: be wrong. Was or still is, and he was signed
Speaker 5: to her. He was one of the beat makers in
Speaker 5: a session with us, So of course we pulling layers
Speaker 5: down and we figure out who it was. But her
Speaker 5: and I our beef started was when I reached out
Speaker 5: to her.
Speaker 8: I was respectful. I'm like, hey, I'm Amy Luciani, Like I.
Speaker 5: Wrote this record with this girl. I noticed this on YouTube.
Speaker 5: You're performing it. I don't know if you know about this,
Speaker 5: but this song is a year old. I send her
Speaker 5: anything as an artist that you would have needed to
Speaker 5: be like, oh hell no, let me call on somebody,
Speaker 5: actual factual, factuals and she went off and blocked me.
Speaker 5: So from there, baby, I'm from Detroit. It was up
Speaker 5: after that or was she trying to say she wrote
Speaker 5: it or she was saying basically, have to take that
Speaker 5: up with whoever you was in the studio with that day.
Speaker 5: And I felt disrespected behind it, because I felt like
Speaker 5: if had it been the other way around, I'd have
Speaker 5: been like, hey, I want to say it too much
Speaker 5: to incriminate myself, just like she didn't. But I would
Speaker 5: at least been on some Let me figure out what happened.
Speaker 6: Did she take parts of the record, because like we
Speaker 6: were just talking about how rappers want to take credit
Speaker 6: for writing their own raps and stuff like that. Was
Speaker 6: it the entire record she took or just pieces?
Speaker 5: It was a two verse record in the first verse
Speaker 5: was my entire verse?
Speaker 6: Okay, entirely, And you ain't getting no money, so you lucky.
Speaker 8: I got nothing.
Speaker 5: I was sitting there for a year, like I hope
Speaker 5: something come about this because we were in there for
Speaker 5: days doing this. But again, you might get a call
Speaker 5: in three months hey that record, or it could be
Speaker 5: two years, So you don't call and be a buggable
Speaker 5: and be like, hey, what about that? Record, you just
Speaker 5: sit back and let the thing do his thing. So
Speaker 5: I felt disrespected from her message. Long story short, which
Speaker 5: led to me taking to social media because I knew
Speaker 5: this gonna get my answer, and it did. As soon
Speaker 5: as my video went up, the song was taken down.
Speaker 5: Although it was put back up at some point, it
Speaker 5: was put right back up. At some point, it did
Speaker 5: get to down. It was a couple I'm a major
Speaker 5: artists on her deal that had reposted it. I looked
Speaker 5: up they took it down. So I'm thinking, like, okay,
Speaker 5: we're about to handle the business. Because I'm not a
Speaker 5: drama person. I just want to handle the business. I'm
Speaker 5: owe some money if your label gonna pick up the song.
Speaker 5: But how y'all gonna pick up a song that me
Speaker 5: and this girl wrote? How does that work? So I
Speaker 5: was just vocal that you're like, y'all not gonna keep
Speaker 5: playing with us girls like this. We know it'd be
Speaker 5: a lot of y'all guys that do these writing sessions,
Speaker 5: but we're here now and we're slowly in here writing.
Speaker 5: Give us the credit because if it was a guy,
Speaker 5: they would have been in there ready to fight instantly.
Speaker 8: They wouldn't even play with them like that, the men.
Speaker 4: So did you ever get your credit?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 8: I never got my credit still to.
Speaker 1: This day and it's.
Speaker 8: Still up to this day.
Speaker 4: Did you never want to take it to court?
Speaker 5: Or I honestly was gonna take it to court? Me
Speaker 5: and the artist, me and Pineapple, we were in chat
Speaker 5: with she signed and her people was I only bring
Speaker 5: him a part of the mess. But we were all
Speaker 5: talking like what are we gonna do legally?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 8: We're not gonna play it homegirl game.
Speaker 5: This is legal, this is this is theft right here,
Speaker 5: and we were going back and forth about it, and
Speaker 5: a lot of people around me on my team and
Speaker 5: friends in the industry were warning me and telling me, like,
Speaker 5: you know, you always got to play as smart and
Speaker 5: think on your emotions when you want to go big
Speaker 5: on these people that she signed to.
Speaker 8: It's like, do you know what she signed? Do you
Speaker 8: know what she signed to?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I know what she s?
Speaker 5: Like, do you want to go she s? Yeah, which
Speaker 5: is the entity of QC. Yeah, which is an entity
Speaker 5: of it and the big yeah yeah, a big umbrella.
Speaker 5: So do you want to essentially fall out with people
Speaker 5: with these people because they could just blackball you that
Speaker 5: happens every day.
Speaker 4: So are you scared of that is a question.
Speaker 5: I'm not scared of it. But I'm a money maker.
Speaker 5: I'm wise enough to control my emotions and be like So.
Speaker 6: That's why you guys are not You can be in
Speaker 6: the scene, but you would feel better if you got paid.
Speaker 5: For sure, we should be paid. Yeah, but we should
Speaker 5: one hundred percent be paid. We should have been paid.
Speaker 5: But this industry is, it's it's so many unfair situations
Speaker 5: that I don't want to be the artist to keep
Speaker 5: being vocal about because I been meaning people to stand
Speaker 5: with need look yeah, and I don't want to be
Speaker 5: that person.
Speaker 1: I'm not able to be that person.
Speaker 8: I don't want to be that person.
Speaker 5: I silently throw my little chips out and be like, yeah,
Speaker 5: us girls do be kind of done unfairly when they
Speaker 5: come down to these writing sessions and writing boards and
Speaker 5: references and stuff. But I don't want to keep saying
Speaker 5: it because now that's overshadowing what I'm trying to do
Speaker 5: and who I'm trying to be. And then you also
Speaker 5: coming up. You gotta be careful with who you really
Speaker 5: ready to go to war with. At certain points of
Speaker 5: your career, it's not like I'm the biggest artists in
Speaker 5: the world and to be sitting up there like I'm
Speaker 5: taking y'all down or take yourself down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now you're on the same playing field with her.
Speaker 5: But that's how God work and that's why I wasn't
Speaker 5: never tripping because I know how it worked.
Speaker 1: So now it's funny.
Speaker 5: Because it's like God to do that loop real quick
Speaker 5: and you just be sitting back like I remember me.
Speaker 4: When was her reaction when she first seen you on set.
Speaker 8: What y'all saw on TV?
Speaker 5: Didn't want to speak, didn't really look at me, didn't
Speaker 5: Oh no, it was what you saw clipped down because
Speaker 5: it was a long conversation.
Speaker 8: So it's what y'all saw clip down for sixty second.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like instant.
Speaker 7: It's like, it's because what I when I saw the clip,
Speaker 7: I was like, damn, like.
Speaker 1: Outside of this because it was like as soon as.
Speaker 5: It was so much more and just how I am
Speaker 5: with everybody. I just like I said, I know my power,
Speaker 5: so I know how to talk to people in conflict
Speaker 5: because it's either two things. We're gonna talk in conflict
Speaker 5: or oh my old background, my old thinking.
Speaker 8: It was okay, because where I'm from.
Speaker 1: We can't go back to Detroit now was progressive?
Speaker 5: Now conflict gonna be talkable or we're gonna fight, one
Speaker 5: of us gonna get hurt out the situation.
Speaker 6: And how do you find the balance of giving you know,
Speaker 6: your new opportunity on Love and hip Hop what they want,
Speaker 6: which is drama field, yeah, and trying to highlight your
Speaker 6: businesses and your music at the same time.
Speaker 8: How you said, what was the question?
Speaker 1: How do I say?
Speaker 4: How do you balance them both?
Speaker 8: I'm still learning how to do it to this day.
Speaker 1: Because it's your first time with love and hip hop?
Speaker 5: First time, Okay, this is my first time. How I'm
Speaker 5: balancing it out is I think it's just having a
Speaker 5: strong mind.
Speaker 8: I was a fan of the show.
Speaker 5: I watched reality TV anyway, so I knew one hundred
Speaker 5: percent what I was stepping into. But I just felt
Speaker 5: like with my approach was different because shout out to
Speaker 5: a lot of the girls that were on the show
Speaker 5: before me, but my situation is different in terms of
Speaker 5: I have kind of the opposite of what a lot
Speaker 5: of girls needed when they started the reality show, started
Speaker 5: loving hip hop or these other shows.
Speaker 8: My career worked in opposite.
Speaker 5: I had businesses that made millions of dollars, and I
Speaker 5: bought the mansions. I drive all these cars off of me.
Speaker 5: I just and have the musical success. A lot of
Speaker 5: girls had the opposite starting off, they were super broke,
Speaker 5: but they had the musical cloud.
Speaker 8: So my stuff worked in reverse.
Speaker 5: So where a lot of the girls came in the
Speaker 5: show and were going through real life situations. Some were homeless,
Speaker 5: some were really coming out to strip club, really moving
Speaker 5: to Atlanta homeless, and the show threw them to the
Speaker 5: woods out there, like, let's show us how homeless stripper is.
Speaker 5: My situation is different because I'm company, and I was like,
Speaker 5: it's different, like I'm good.
Speaker 6: And real quickly for the audience, what were the businesses
Speaker 6: that really set you up financially?
Speaker 5: So my first business that took off was a hair business.
Speaker 5: I had a hair company called Luciani Lux Hair, and
Speaker 5: my hair just took off. I started off when the
Speaker 5: buy it, selling vendors and building people's websites before e
Speaker 5: commerce was like a conversation. Luckily, I had a neighbor
Speaker 5: that was in it, and he taught me about it
Speaker 5: and we started this big e commerce business with hair.
Speaker 1: So we.
Speaker 8: Just to speed through it.
Speaker 5: We would either build you your full website, get your hair,
Speaker 5: get your website, get your tags, get your ALC.
Speaker 1: Get your EI. In we did everything.
Speaker 5: You will wake up the next day for a small
Speaker 5: fee of a couple thousand and wake up to a
Speaker 5: fully running business. ADS just everything people are doing now,
Speaker 5: one stop shop, one stop shop. I was blessed and
Speaker 5: jumped on that wave when I first heard about it
Speaker 5: years ago.
Speaker 8: It just took the chance.
Speaker 5: So it was like, I don't know what e commerce is,
Speaker 5: but let me try it. I build a wholesale hair
Speaker 5: I didn't build one of my partners. Build a wholesale
Speaker 5: business where you never had a business before, where hairstylists
Speaker 5: could come to my website. We know you need hair
Speaker 5: all week long, your hairstylist. I set it up where
Speaker 5: I was having it like you can buy a wholesale
Speaker 5: for me. I got everything you need. You need tags,
Speaker 5: you need bags, you need lashes, glue, everything wholesale. So
Speaker 5: I just came into, honestly a lucky position before this commerce,
Speaker 5: a blessed position. Before it was like versus the way
Speaker 5: now everybody dropped shipping. I was doing it six years ago,
Speaker 5: so that started it which led to my product that
Speaker 5: I have now, which is called My Pretty Kitty. It's
Speaker 5: a bikini product for your bikini area. It's a three
Speaker 5: step kid like nare or something. Yeah, but it's all natural.
Speaker 5: So mine is all turmeric based. I have a turmeric
Speaker 5: bar of soap, I have a cream and a turmeric oil.
Speaker 5: So my Pretty Kitty is what kind of did the
Speaker 5: rest of everything how it's supposed to go?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 6: So, yeah, you got products to sell, man, you ain't
Speaker 6: got time for the driving. Yeah, we know Renny is
Speaker 6: not one of your favorites, anymore of your least favorite cast.
Speaker 1: Members Autumn heifers. To be careful now that jump.
Speaker 5: You know what, it's reality TV. Everybody got a personality.
Speaker 5: I have come on the show on a scene where
Speaker 5: I had a lot of stuff and I wasn't the
Speaker 5: most pleasant because I got real life. Now, I got
Speaker 5: this camera in my face and I really don't like you,
Speaker 5: and I half like you. So uh, it's just reality TV.
Speaker 5: I don't look at any of them, even on the renting.
Speaker 5: We we just we're out the country together and like.
Speaker 1: That's my stomach growl. It's just business.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just business, and it's a show, and I
Speaker 5: feel like with all the adversities, the best part to
Speaker 5: prove you're a business woman you want to be successful
Speaker 5: is I try to think of the money and I
Speaker 5: look at stuff like I'm not trying to chase the
Speaker 5: bag away and you do too much, You be too
Speaker 5: ghetto because you could push the ghettle envelope. You can
Speaker 5: share the money off. You could do too much, you
Speaker 5: can say too much. And although I'm on the show
Speaker 5: that I know is more drama driven, I'm standing behind
Speaker 5: my products on the show so we can do all
Speaker 5: this cat and.
Speaker 1: Audiot, we're gonna highight, were gonna highlight my products.
Speaker 8: I don't come on set without it. I don't come
Speaker 8: on set without it.
Speaker 6: Andy does that on The Housewives, like give them what
Speaker 6: they want. But at the same time, multi product these products.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, because why would you be.
Speaker 8: On this national TV show not with show products.
Speaker 4: Squandering your opportunity.
Speaker 5: But you won't believe how many of them on your
Speaker 5: doing it, not showing and have products and services.
Speaker 8: And just I'm on TV, so let.
Speaker 1: Me just be the baddie. And I'm sitting up there
Speaker 1: like baby, I'm not.
Speaker 5: Trying to I'm trying to be the bad lady, not
Speaker 5: the baddie. But it's TV, so some people get it confused.
Speaker 5: I'm on here for a purpose, and although I'm loving
Speaker 5: just the new opportunity, it's so different just being miked up,
Speaker 5: having just I've never been in a place where I
Speaker 5: walk into and it's a few girls that don't like.
Speaker 1: Me and we all in the ruin. I'm looking like, oh,
Speaker 1: we can't be on those streets stuff. Today.
Speaker 8: We're miked up.
Speaker 5: We're really TV stars now our ten personalities.
Speaker 8: I'm being taught.
Speaker 5: I'm learning stuff too in this experience, because I'm like,
Speaker 5: typically I wouldn't even be in a room with you,
Speaker 5: but I have to now, and I gotta be nice,
Speaker 5: and I gotta listen to you talk.
Speaker 1: I really want to flap you a little bit.
Speaker 7: But you know, Okay, Well, Ferrari has been tech to
Speaker 7: me and he won't leave me alone.
Speaker 1: He told me, uh, asks you.
Speaker 7: Ferrari said, he thinks you and Mazie are back together.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, I was sitting on that mail at night.
Speaker 5: Okay, whoa I was with that ex last night, y'all?
Speaker 4: What happened?
Speaker 8: Let me tell you how to tell the truth without
Speaker 8: making them look so bad again.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: We were together six years and the last year of
Speaker 5: the relationship, which was last year, when I broke up
Speaker 5: with him, dumped them, left them like a bad habits.
Speaker 5: I No, it just wasn't working out the way it
Speaker 5: was going the first couple of years. I think that
Speaker 5: when we kind of start coming into money and finances
Speaker 5: and it's like, oh, we in his mansion, Oh look
Speaker 5: at our cars, my mentality was, oh, we got to
Speaker 5: keep these things that we acquired, like now we got
Speaker 5: to work more. And just our backgrounds were different. He's
Speaker 5: not the only child, but he has a little brother
Speaker 5: that's like two years younger than him, so he was
Speaker 5: raised an only child.
Speaker 8: I got a full siblings.
Speaker 5: I always was like, do more, do more, safe, be responsible.
Speaker 5: So I think our backgrounds once we came into money,
Speaker 5: money can he didn't change because money I didn't change.
Speaker 5: But I saw it like, oh, shoot, we were supposed
Speaker 5: to be like planning for this big wedding and I'm
Speaker 5: saving up my half what we're supposed to do and
Speaker 5: you're supposed to be working on this. And I think
Speaker 5: that when we came into the money that his mentality
Speaker 5: felt almost like we kind of made it, and I
Speaker 5: was just like, we have not made it yet.
Speaker 4: And your his is more.
Speaker 6: We can relax a little bit, but he's got a
Speaker 6: little comfortable and you were like, no, we're still on edge.
Speaker 6: We have to I feel like it's worked to get in,
Speaker 6: but work harder to stay.
Speaker 5: In, right, And I can't I can't hurse on here, clearly,
Speaker 5: Oh I can't say whatever you want.
Speaker 8: I would have been cussing like a motherfus I know.
Speaker 5: But he told me that when we became financially more
Speaker 5: financially stable or successful, that I turned into a bitch. Basically,
Speaker 5: he said, I turned into like I will wake up,
Speaker 5: and this was true, like I have vision boards and
Speaker 5: I would be waking like okay, so why are you
Speaker 5: You were supposed to do this, like because now again
Speaker 5: we have to keep these things we acquire. So in
Speaker 5: his language, a bitch was like you a little more
Speaker 5: like act like my mam, and now like we're gonna
Speaker 5: keep this house, We're gonna keep these cars. But for me,
Speaker 5: I felt like we have to sleep less.
Speaker 1: Now look at this big ass house.
Speaker 6: We just got, like the scariest It's like, yeah, are
Speaker 6: you you're the oldest right of your fore siblings.
Speaker 5: No, I'm the second, second oldest, three younger and one older.
Speaker 6: But you still have a responsibility. You screw up with
Speaker 6: a responsibility. Sure, you can't like just drop the ball,
Speaker 6: because if you don't work, you ain't eating for sure.
Speaker 4: Do you guys have kids?
Speaker 5: No, we don't have kids. I don't have any kids.
Speaker 5: He has kids, Okay, so that was another thing. I
Speaker 5: kind of felt like I don't have kids yet. My
Speaker 5: goal was I wanted to buy my house. I wanted
Speaker 5: to get married. I know, I'm I'm backwards. A lot
Speaker 5: of people say get married in the house. I knew
Speaker 5: I wanted to get the house. I want to live
Speaker 5: with you. I wanted to then I want to get married.
Speaker 5: Then I wanted to have a kid. So we had
Speaker 5: so much in order, and I felt like when the
Speaker 5: money came, it was like a shock for me and
Speaker 5: it was a shock for him. We reacted two different ways.
Speaker 5: He reacted in like we never had money before, like
Speaker 5: let's just enjoy it and live it, like we look
Speaker 5: look at today right now, let's go shopping. And I
Speaker 5: was like I started acting broke her when I got paid.
Speaker 6: I was like, understand that because you don't want to
Speaker 6: go back.
Speaker 5: No, And so we were arguing a lot, and he
Speaker 5: used to be like, you're not my mom. You act
Speaker 5: like a little bit and I'm not trying to be
Speaker 5: like you like mother. Hen holding onto the money and
Speaker 5: how much did you spend on that trip hike?
Speaker 1: And I was older. Those rich people do and that's
Speaker 1: what I am.
Speaker 6: And people say, steam, you know you save your money,
Speaker 6: Your money will save you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you save your money, Your money will save you.
Speaker 7: I tell people that all the time. I tell family members, man,
Speaker 7: don't ask me for no money. Man, save your money,
Speaker 7: because my money gonna have to save me eventually at
Speaker 7: some point in life.
Speaker 6: Just imagine how many people were scared when the pandemic
Speaker 6: happened and still stay to build themselves back up.
Speaker 5: And we our lives were the opposite when the pandemic
Speaker 5: because we were the YouTube couple of the year for
Speaker 5: the last couple of years.
Speaker 8: So with us, we.
Speaker 5: Came into so much money during the pandemic that was
Speaker 5: almost wasn't fair. It was like people in the pandemic
Speaker 5: are not watching YouTube more. Yep, So our stuff went
Speaker 5: up five times.
Speaker 1: We was already killing it.
Speaker 5: I was thinking like during the pandemics, like, oh my god, look,
Speaker 5: we bought the mansion in the pandemic. We bought the
Speaker 5: cars in the pandemic. And I was thinking, like, when
Speaker 5: I started seeing the pandemic, I was affecting people.
Speaker 1: I started trying to hold on and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 5: And I felt like with him, we just had two
Speaker 5: different mindsets. He he lives like today, this is today.
Speaker 5: We got this today. You want to go on another trip,
Speaker 5: And I'm so the opposite. And I'm like, h we
Speaker 5: could be broken a year.
Speaker 1: But that's how y'all got it, though, That's how we
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 5: And a biggering got too much and then you I'm
Speaker 5: sure from a male perspective, when we start doing too
Speaker 5: much bitching and stuff, it just go downhill.
Speaker 8: But I'm not gonna stop.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's just go downhill because I feel like
Speaker 7: in y'all situation, you guys are business partners and then
Speaker 7: y'all have to be relationship and you know, googlely goggly
Speaker 7: and stuff like that. And I think you know, as
Speaker 7: a man, it's like once it was like once you
Speaker 7: start doing the bitching.
Speaker 5: But then from a woman perspective, you know what I'm saying, sis.
Speaker 5: When we start looking like I'm supposed to be marrying
Speaker 5: you and then we got to share the money.
Speaker 6: You got to look for yourself, come on like and
Speaker 6: it's not even to be a selfish or anything like that,
Speaker 6: but you know you could be left in destitute.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Actually, you have to look out for yourself because if
Speaker 6: you've been broke before.
Speaker 4: And you got some money, you do you do not
Speaker 4: want to go back.
Speaker 1: You do not want to go back.
Speaker 8: You almost do anything to not go back.
Speaker 1: You know how people call me help.
Speaker 5: When I came into my financial blessings, I became the
Speaker 5: cheapest person. I used to spend more money when I
Speaker 5: was broke. I didn't even have it, but I used
Speaker 5: to somehow. I always was That's how it goes. Somehow
Speaker 5: I had it. I always had it there and I
Speaker 5: was broke. Well my money now, my mom, she laugh
Speaker 5: at me. I what I even talking about?
Speaker 8: The number?
Speaker 5: I was somewhere with somebody and I was I got
Speaker 5: them to go so long on their number. And my
Speaker 5: mom is over my business, so she obviously is overshopifyed.
Speaker 5: She see what the products do. When we walked away,
Speaker 5: she said, bitch, you bet at ever, come in here
Speaker 5: with your jurery on and get nobody to go down
Speaker 5: on they price like that.
Speaker 8: I can't believe he did it.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, this is what I that's a good
Speaker 1: business woman.
Speaker 6: But you know what, white people's been doing it for
Speaker 6: you for a year, rich white people.
Speaker 4: That's why they stay rich.
Speaker 5: You're not in designer Like to this day, I don't
Speaker 5: wear designer. The only thing I care about is I
Speaker 5: just like jury for some reason. But I don't wear
Speaker 5: a designer.
Speaker 7: So what's been your dumbest purchase since you've gained money?
Speaker 8: A bad person?
Speaker 1: I bought before? How much was it? S? Six hundred?
Speaker 5: And it was so stupid when I when I left
Speaker 5: back when I left with it and just kept looking
Speaker 5: at it. I started adding up all the studio hours
Speaker 5: and how much it costs and how much. I said,
Speaker 5: you could have got four music videos out of this.
Speaker 5: You could have did this.
Speaker 1: It was the.
Speaker 8: Dumbest thing ever.
Speaker 5: But I got hyped up again, used to be a
Speaker 5: bro bitch, had a little dollar that day. I was like,
Speaker 5: I've never done this. Why would I not have always
Speaker 5: actually wanted that? As that broke me. That was my
Speaker 5: one time doing it though, that's the difference with me
Speaker 5: and a lot of people. I did that once.
Speaker 1: I respect that.
Speaker 4: But sometimes it's.
Speaker 6: Okay to work hard and then reward yourself with some things.
Speaker 6: What number do you think you would feel comfortable enough to,
Speaker 6: you know, spurge on yourself a little bit.
Speaker 5: Another splurge would happen when I make another million dollars. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: Because if you if you make the million, which I
Speaker 5: have made it with Pretty Kitty, I've done it more
Speaker 5: than once. You take off half of that away because
Speaker 5: you had to put it right back in your product.
Speaker 5: Now you took the five hundred off the one million
Speaker 5: that you made, that's gone, and then x five hundred.
Speaker 5: You go about to spend fifty to seventy a month
Speaker 5: on advertisements, which is gonna make you probably spend fifty.
Speaker 5: You probably might make one hundred and fifty off of
Speaker 5: the fifty you spent. But that million go down so
Speaker 5: fast you ain't got time to be talking about one
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars shopping spree.
Speaker 1: How hard was it to get the first million?
Speaker 5: It really wasn't hard for me, honestly, Again, and I'm
Speaker 5: being humble when I said, my mom has always been
Speaker 5: an entrepreneur. My mom had a cheering hip hop business
Speaker 5: my whole life. My mom has always had a business,
Speaker 5: so I've always been a frugal person to know about
Speaker 5: saving because of her. So I made the million and
Speaker 5: it was like I kind of really for real real
Speaker 5: made it in seven months when I made my product,
Speaker 5: and I was like, oh, shoot, and then spend a
Speaker 5: lot of it to do it again.
Speaker 8: That's just how I go.
Speaker 6: But to go back to your relationship and you guys,
Speaker 6: essentially it was money that it was at.
Speaker 4: You guys, what happened with the channel? What channel was it?
Speaker 1: It was?
Speaker 5: We had a not a family channel with a couple channels.
Speaker 5: It's called the Amy and Mazzie Show on YouTube.
Speaker 4: Did you guys divide it or is just there?
Speaker 1: Or no?
Speaker 5: He kept the channel, and I was vocal about I
Speaker 5: didn't feel like he was supposed to keep the channel.
Speaker 5: A lot of people said he should have, but he
Speaker 5: started the channel years ago before we ever met, but
Speaker 5: he never posted on it.
Speaker 8: So now you and me and we're together and.
Speaker 5: We're been like this viral couple for a little bit,
Speaker 5: so we take it to YouTube. I felt like, honey,
Speaker 5: when we broke up and I dumped your black ass.
Speaker 5: This is our channel, and I felt like I should
Speaker 5: get the revenue still fifty to fifty like we've been
Speaker 5: doing for years. But he felt like, no, this is
Speaker 5: my channel that I had three years before I ever
Speaker 5: met you, and we're not together. Go start your YouTube channel.
Speaker 5: This is my channel, and he took all our videos off.
Speaker 5: But I kind of felt like, you still getting the
Speaker 5: revenue from the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands
Speaker 5: of subscribers that I helped build. But our breakup was
Speaker 5: just so different. It was so weird because I kind
Speaker 5: of felt like I kept the house.
Speaker 8: I kept a lot of the stuff that was in
Speaker 8: my name because I had the good credits.
Speaker 5: And then I was like, you had a YouTube, You're
Speaker 5: about to make a lot of money off of it.
Speaker 5: I didn't want him to go down and just be
Speaker 5: depleted without that's crazy, So I walked away from the YouTube.
Speaker 5: My team was like, this is legal, you shouldn't do it,
Speaker 5: but it's like, this is my ex.
Speaker 8: I'm not trying to go to war.
Speaker 5: And although in a nutshell you can say we broke
Speaker 5: up for money, I think that when we really did
Speaker 5: the breakup, I realized like looking at him and him
Speaker 5: looking back at me.
Speaker 8: I'm not changing.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna always be that girl that is frugal, that
Speaker 5: watches the money.
Speaker 8: I balance it well.
Speaker 1: Didn't ever get back together.
Speaker 8: What we Yeah, somebody gonna have to change that part.
Speaker 5: I had him blocked for a year, and on our
Speaker 5: one year anniversary, I unblocked him. And when I unblocked him, no,
Speaker 5: he caught in text and I was like thinking, what
Speaker 5: how did that happen? Like, I just literally I'm blocked
Speaker 5: you. You wouldn't know I ain't blocked you whatever. And he
Speaker 5: was like, I literally every couple of days text you
Speaker 5: and been doing it for a year.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 8: And I was like, I'm missing you too.
Speaker 4: But you think, what kind of person do you think
Speaker 4: you would need?
Speaker 5: I want a person that's business minded. I like a.
Speaker 8: Person when I wake up in the morning.
Speaker 5: I like to talk about business in the morning, or
Speaker 5: hypothetical business or a business idea. I just I'm turned
Speaker 5: on by business. Even watching other people be great, I
Speaker 5: love it. I just be like like, I just like business.
Speaker 5: So I'm attracted to people who go get it, talk
Speaker 5: about bullshit.
Speaker 8: I like a guy who hold me accountable if I.
Speaker 5: Say I'm dropping a mixtape on my birthday June third,
Speaker 5: and on June second. I like a guy like, what's up, accountable.
Speaker 5: I don't like a guy to let me lead because
Speaker 5: I'm aggressive already. So so you want an alpha, gotta
Speaker 5: have an alpha, but then you gotta let me be an alpha too.
Speaker 5: That's why this kind of gets weird. Yeah, that is
Speaker 5: one of my personal struggles because I am very alpha
Speaker 5: like my mom and my ex fiance is an alpha
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 8: But my thought is, you can't be an alpha. How
Speaker 8: can I say it nicely?
Speaker 6: You need more of a laid back alpha versus a
Speaker 6: dominant one, and sometimes you just got to be a
Speaker 6: season where you got to be less of the alpha
Speaker 6: than me.
Speaker 5: So if I have showed you, like with these business practices,
Speaker 5: even down to his businesses helping him, he starts it,
Speaker 5: but I'm behind it. I know the credit, I know business,
Speaker 5: I know loans, I know all of that thanks to
Speaker 5: my mom. If I'm the one helping doing it, now,
Speaker 5: look at all the money you got now.
Speaker 8: I feel like.
Speaker 5: People should learn to for a short season. It don't
Speaker 5: got to be forever. But in a relationship, I felt
Speaker 5: like it was a season where he needed to be
Speaker 5: like Lou, which is what he called me, she know
Speaker 5: a business.
Speaker 8: Let me step back.
Speaker 5: See, I'm good with the YouTube and he's an artist.
Speaker 5: He good with that, but my girl is good with
Speaker 5: the business. If you too stuck on being an alpha
Speaker 5: and you know you're not good at that, but because
Speaker 5: you're in alpha, you gotta act like you're good and
Speaker 5: be over me telling And that's what I felt like
Speaker 5: started started happening because my success in my businesses. I
Speaker 5: felt like with him, he started kind of looking like
Speaker 5: you a little rich, used to be broke bitch when
Speaker 5: I met you, and now you're acting like I know
Speaker 5: it all, bitch. You were broke when I met you.
Speaker 5: We have so much, it's so many lad with you.
Speaker 5: That is how I felt. I felt like he thought
Speaker 5: we had made it, and it started scaring me. We
Speaker 5: had a wedding plan eight months before I broke up
Speaker 5: with him, and I was like adding it up and
Speaker 5: I was just like, maybe we rushing this, Like I
Speaker 5: don't like how you are with money.
Speaker 8: You don't like that you say.
Speaker 5: That I talk and you felt like I'm the alpha
Speaker 5: man over you when you're the man and I ain't changing.
Speaker 5: But you're not gonna do better with your money, but
Speaker 5: I gotta quiet down, So I broke up with him.
Speaker 4: Did y'all ever want to do therapy or seek therapy
Speaker 4: before that happened.
Speaker 5: No, I'm different. I don't believe in that. I don't
Speaker 5: believe that. If you find a person who is proved
Speaker 5: to show like I keep everything everything in my name,
Speaker 5: I hold me down, and now I'm with you and
Speaker 5: suddenly I need a therapist to work and date you.
Speaker 1: I just don't believe in that. I don't believe in that.
Speaker 1: Is that wrong?
Speaker 5: Like, no, I do if I became the problem. But
Speaker 5: if the only thing you saying I need some therapy
Speaker 5: is because I'm too alpha, I challenge you and say,
Speaker 5: why do you think I got.
Speaker 1: To be so alpha?
Speaker 5: You're not being responsible with our money, so you're turning
Speaker 5: me up more because I'm kind of like hyper dry,
Speaker 5: I'm like kind of nervous now.
Speaker 6: But what if it's not just for you, but like
Speaker 6: for him to understand you, a person that can a
Speaker 6: third party that can like help you guys understand one another.
Speaker 5: Before we get to that point, he has to understand
Speaker 5: that it's just you need to save your money.
Speaker 7: We can't skip over it. But that's that's why most
Speaker 7: people divorces is over.
Speaker 1: My money, and it ain't that.
Speaker 8: It's also gold digging stuff because he good and I'm good.
Speaker 8: I don't need you for.
Speaker 1: Money, you don't need me.
Speaker 5: It was over money because we're about to become one.
Speaker 5: I'm about to be your wife. I'm gonna have my
Speaker 5: first damn baby, Like I don't. I'm not comfortable. And
Speaker 5: I felt like I was screaming it and it got
Speaker 5: to the point where it was like you ain't hearing me.
Speaker 1: So we got to break up.
Speaker 4: But y'all, are you know, kind of ining at each
Speaker 4: other's lives right now?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 8: I have forgiven him.
Speaker 5: He has forgiven me because we did a lot of
Speaker 5: social media mess that he did it first and then
Speaker 5: I followed it and it wasn't right anyway. I followed
Speaker 5: it with some ignorance matching his energy, and it was
Speaker 5: just disappointing to the fans for both of us to
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 8: So where we are right now, believe it or not.
Speaker 5: When I left my my ex fiance, I left him
Speaker 5: to get back with him. It was supposed to be
Speaker 5: like a shake up almost like okay, So I've been
Speaker 5: saying this for about two years. Now, we've had money
Speaker 5: for two years. You're not listening. Watch this. We're done,
Speaker 5: and here's the ring. That was what it was supposed
Speaker 5: to be. I didn't think it was gonna last fifteen months.
Speaker 5: But now fifteen months went by and I'm blocked, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, dang, it's been a year. I actually unblocked
Speaker 5: him right around two days after.
Speaker 8: Take off.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately passed away cause it was like on my heart,
Speaker 5: I'm like, dang, life is so short. He was such
Speaker 5: a fan of him. It just reminded me so much
Speaker 5: of him.
Speaker 8: I'm telling you.
Speaker 5: When I unblocked him, he was texting and he's like,
Speaker 5: I've been texting you, like all those things that you
Speaker 5: said I had to get together fifteen months later, but
Speaker 5: sending me the business to.
Speaker 8: This the bank account, and I'm just like.
Speaker 1: This is all I ever wanted from you, So come.
Speaker 8: Over here and get this cookie.
Speaker 4: So he's giving you what you want.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: Do you see the change in him?
Speaker 5: I see the changes, and I'm very happy, although we're
Speaker 5: still taking this slow because now I was like, we're
Speaker 5: living in two different places now.
Speaker 8: We were together in one.
Speaker 1: House for six years.
Speaker 5: I see the changes and I'm so happy, but I
Speaker 5: want him to keep doing his thing, and I feel
Speaker 5: like naturally will come back. I'm kind of not kind
Speaker 5: that I've learned to enjoy liking my place too much
Speaker 5: by myself, and he's liking he is too. And it's
Speaker 5: weird because now I'm like, I feel like my fiance
Speaker 5: is like just my little boo who just pull up
Speaker 5: and leave and pull up.
Speaker 8: But it's good.
Speaker 5: Well, no, no, I don't think I missed fiance still.
Speaker 5: I think when I called off the wedding and gave
Speaker 5: the ring back that I think now I'm just like
Speaker 5: his ex fiance.
Speaker 4: Now, just say, you just said fiance is like my
Speaker 4: little book.
Speaker 8: Yeah, habit is a habit. He ain't get back yet, y'all.
Speaker 4: Y'all without therapy though.
Speaker 8: Right without therapy.
Speaker 5: I'm willing to do therapy with him because I know
Speaker 5: I got some stuff I gotta do alone. I need
Speaker 5: therapy for some alone issues, I know for sure, and
Speaker 5: he knows for sure he does. But I don't want
Speaker 5: to be the couple. It's like, let's go together, and hell.
Speaker 4: Let's do it separately. So you're open to therapy for sure.
Speaker 4: For yourself.
Speaker 1: I'm currently in it.
Speaker 4: Oh how's that going?
Speaker 8: It's going. Well, That's why I'll be able to be like, okay, girl,
Speaker 8: are you done? Okay, God is good and walk off.
Speaker 5: I'm there. And he was doing it for a minute.
Speaker 5: And I don't want to get into his business too much,
Speaker 5: but he was doing it for a minute. I don't
Speaker 5: know if he's still doing it, but I know in
Speaker 5: the beginning of the breakup, before I blocked him for real,
Speaker 5: when he took stuff to social media, he was actively
Speaker 5: in it, and like I was like, because I know
Speaker 5: he needed it for certain things, and I did it
Speaker 5: and I know I needed it, but I feel like
Speaker 5: some of that kind of helped. And I think sometimes
Speaker 5: you gotta leave a nigga. Sometimes you just gotta leave
Speaker 5: him and be like, hey, just let him know that
Speaker 5: you're serious, yeah, because they probably don't believe it. And
Speaker 5: as in love as I am with him, still, he
Speaker 5: knew how crazy I was over him, So I ain't
Speaker 5: blame him for being my girl. I'm still making the
Speaker 5: money and blowing the money. You still here six years,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Why would he think? Why
Speaker 5: would he think I was gonna be forell. But when
Speaker 5: I really left, that's great advice. But he got it together.
Speaker 4: That's great advice for someone.
Speaker 6: To, you know, to really do it because men go
Speaker 6: call your bluff every time, every time.
Speaker 4: But that's good that you guys are doing the work individually.
Speaker 6: It's you know, and him actively doing his part shows
Speaker 6: that he really wants to be with you, and you
Speaker 6: guys want to be with one another.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know in the.
Speaker 5: End, and he's he's got some really big things he's
Speaker 5: been working on. Like I'm just happy it's the same
Speaker 5: person that I met and fell in love with years ago.
Speaker 5: But again, the money, the money will show you deeper
Speaker 5: of a person's upbringing.
Speaker 8: And you don't got to settle and be.
Speaker 5: Like I must just be challenged for the rest of
Speaker 5: my life for the name and the sake of love,
Speaker 5: because it can't be loved and coexisting when two people
Speaker 5: got two different boundaries, and people try to say stuff
Speaker 5: like all you left me for money, ain't me you
Speaker 5: came up money ain't everything. Money is everything. That's why
Speaker 5: you take it has to work every day because without
Speaker 5: it there is nothing. So money is everything, but it's not.
Speaker 5: It shouldn't be everything. Where one person has to be
Speaker 5: like dating someone and feeling uncomfortable, like I could see
Speaker 5: us in the year not having nothing. That is not
Speaker 5: that's not right.
Speaker 6: We have a bunch, but nay, we could talk to
Speaker 6: you all that you are so funny, you are a storyteller,
Speaker 6: you have great information.
Speaker 4: You need to start a podcast booth.
Speaker 1: Everybody say that, yeah, because.
Speaker 6: You got a lot, you got a lot of a
Speaker 6: life that you have gyms.
Speaker 4: But we appreciate you for stopping by.
Speaker 6: Man, I could like, I could literally sit here and
Speaker 6: talk for a whole nother hour, but I know we
Speaker 6: gotta go, uh before.
Speaker 4: We get out of here, though we do have a
Speaker 4: pep talk.
Speaker 1: What's up? Y'all's Amy Luciani.
Speaker 5: You already know the bag lady shout out to the
Speaker 5: baller or learn for having me dropping some gems and
Speaker 5: I'm learning some gems. I definitely didn't want to leave
Speaker 5: the conversation with I'm letting you know you gotta bet
Speaker 5: it on yourself. A lot of us are sitting here
Speaker 5: putting time frames on our six says. Timeframes are our relationships,
Speaker 5: timeframes on our businesses. If you really are doing what
Speaker 5: you do from the heart and it's your skill and
Speaker 5: it's your calling. It's gonna happen naturally, So Sis Rebrah,
Speaker 5: work your move. Don't worry about how fast things are happening.
Speaker 5: They happen right on time, and it's not on your time.
Speaker 5: It's on the universe's time and everything around you. So grime,
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