1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: What's up everybody. Welcome to another episode of Wrestling with Freddy. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: I want to wish everyone a happy, happy holiday, Merry Christmas, 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: happy Hanukah, happy everything that you celebrate. I hope you 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: celebrate all of them because it means you get more presents, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: including this blast from the past from Wrestling with Freddie. 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite episodes. I hope you guys 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Stay tuned because the show starts right now. 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: Oh thank you for. 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: Tuning in to Wrestling with Freddy, Thanks for coming back, 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: thanks for joining the Freederation. 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: And today it's not going to be story time. 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: We're going to have a guest, a fantastic guest. So 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: let's start the show. Welcome to Wrestling with Freddy. 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: Wow. 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: Stepping up to the mic, the host of Wrestling with Freddy. 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 2: Freddy prece tune. 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, McCauley cochie, Yeah. 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: We. 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: Go, Mile. Welcome to the show, man, How are you man? 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me man. I'm doing good and doing good. 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: I was just saying before we recorded that I'm I 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 3: took the morning shift with the kiddo, so you know, 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 3: but I'm doing okay. But I'm glad this is a 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 3: this is a podcast, and you know, I haven't put 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: a comb through my hair yet this morning, but sorry. 26 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: I haven't shaved in about a week and a half. 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 2: So we're on the We're on the same page. 28 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 3: Brother, were all, we're all a little grizzly here exactly. Man. 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: So I started this podcast a while ago, and this 30 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: is about I don't know, ten or or eleven episodes 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: in and a lot of the talk in the beginning 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: was sort of how it all came to fruition. And 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: I started talking about that Rick Flair retirement match that 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: we all went to ye, and I got sidetracked. 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 2: On the gambling that we had. 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: And I don't know if I told the story right 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: or not, but I don't think you lost a match 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: the whole night. And I was I think you walked 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: home with like eight hundred bucks or some some shit 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: like that. 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: Well, you know what it was was that I wasn't 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: really watching the product a lot around that time, so 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: so everyone kept on putting in bets on what you know, 44 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 3: everyone was being so smart, you know, yeah, And I 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 3: was like, cool, I'll take Randy Orton, sure, man. 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was It drove me nuts. We were there 47 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: there were I think four of us, and all of 48 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: us watched a lot except you, and you didn't lose 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: a bet the whole night, and it drove me absolutely insane, 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: but it re ignited my sort of love of wrestling, 51 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: and I was just hoping that you could kind of 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: touch on where you and your family kind of got 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: their love, because I know your brother was a hardcore fan, 54 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: and I don't think you ever jumped into the dark side, 55 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: or if you did, at least not for as long as. 56 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: Your brother did. 57 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: But I but I've seen your your knowledge, and I 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: was just wondering where it all started, when it started, 59 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: and where it came from. 60 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: For me, it was when I was doing an Uncle 61 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: Buck and you know, so I'm sitting in some place 62 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: in like suburban Chicago or whatever, and uh so this 63 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: must have been the winner of eighty nine. 64 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: And so it was one of those like like I 65 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: guess what were they called the like the essentially the 66 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: daytime shows, like you know. 67 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: The Saturday Yeah what was that like? 68 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: Not main events? But yeah, I forget what it was 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 3: like a recap shows with yeah, yeah exactly, and uh 70 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 3: they were showing a replay of a warrior Honky talk 71 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: Man from Summer Slam eighty nine, and it was the 72 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: first wrestling match I ever saw on you know, and 73 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 3: boom as soon as that, like you know, that music 74 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: hit and all that kind of stuff, I was just like, 75 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: who is that guy? 76 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? 77 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, when it comes to comes to not 78 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: Honky talk Man, the Warrior. 79 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: But they didn't like the Honey talk music. 80 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: I know, you know what, I appreciate him so much 81 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: more now. Yeah, guys guys like I miss guys like 82 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: the Honky talk Man and the Genius. I think I 83 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: think wrestling needs more guys like that nowadays, for sure, 84 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, but yeah, no, the music hit and 85 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: boom and then the so you know, I was hooked 86 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: and I was I was looking it up, you know, 87 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: made sure I didn't miss anything. And you know, I 88 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: remember I was a year later. I was back in 89 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: Chicago and I was working on home alone and that's 90 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: when WRESTLINGIA six happened, and I was such a big 91 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: Warrior fan all stuff, but I couldn't watch the paper 92 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: because I was working. So they actually had a hot 93 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: line back then. Remember you had to call in and 94 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: they tell you the results. 95 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: Gosh, that's right, hey, Yeah. 96 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: And I was, I was ecstatic. What it like the 97 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: Ultimate War. It's like it's like it's a mean gene 98 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 3: doing it and the Ultimate War or defeats ho Hogan, 99 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: you know, look at you know, and yeah. It was 100 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: like I was like, yeah, you know, yeah, so but 101 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: that's the yeah. That That's how I watched WRESTLINGIA six 102 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: for the first time. Was mean Jean recapped it for 103 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: me over the phone at like whatever ten dollars a 104 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 3: minute or something. 105 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: So in eighty seven or eighty eight, I was in Albuquerque, 106 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: New Mexico, and there was a house show at the 107 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: place where like the rodeos were at, because that's all 108 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: that really came to New Mexico, and it was called 109 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: it was called Engley Colisseum, and there really wasn't a 110 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: good seat in the house, but there were seats there, 111 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: but there were just pillars everywhere. So there were people 112 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: blocked all over the place and they were going to 113 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: do a Battle Royal or a yeah, I think it 114 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: was just a little Battle Royal and all the kids 115 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: would like run down to. 116 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: The rail to see their favorite wrestlers come in. 117 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: And I didn't have a ticket for that area, but 118 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: I ran in with the other kids, and the Ultimate 119 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Warrior ran by and secure. The security guy grabbed me 120 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: and was like, hey, you don't have a ticket. And 121 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: the Ultimate Warrior didn't put his hand on me, but 122 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: kind of around me and on the security guy and 123 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: he goes, it's okay. And I could smell I still remember. 124 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: I smelled like dirt from the coliseum, baby oil and sweat. 125 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: I was going to say, oh my god, I still 126 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: smell it. 127 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: And his like the bicycle tassels were like kind of 128 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: like wet and sticky and like on my face when 129 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: he was like and I still remember that. And so 130 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: I was a huge, huge Ultimate Warrior fan. And then well, 131 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: and then I started watching nw A and I saw 132 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: Rick Flair and then everything ended for me. 133 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: I was that. 134 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: It was Rick Flair and Sting and that was That's 135 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: all I cared about for a long long time. 136 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: But we both have Warrior origin stories. 137 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: He was such a good gateway drug, you know. I 138 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 3: mean he was just you know, like me, just like 139 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: you know. 140 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 2: You know it's not good, but you're just gonna try 141 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: it a few times. 142 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, you know, I love the version 143 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 3: I am. When I watched The Ultimate Warrior, you know. 144 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I only have to wrestle for forty two seconds. 145 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am so funny and hilarious. 146 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: And your brother told me a story once, and I'm 147 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: wondering if you were there, But he told me a 148 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: story of when he was at a show. He said 149 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: he got thrown out of a wrestling show. And this 150 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: was we were all at your place in New York 151 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: City and we were playing Soul Caliber two or three 152 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: years I don't remember which one. And uh, you guys 153 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: were killing me with this dude with a long staff 154 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: and I couldn't get in and it was driving me 155 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: nuts and we started talking. 156 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: I hated you, and so he said he got there. 157 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: I said, what happened? 158 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,119 Speaker 1: He said, I threw a beer on the big show 159 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: and they threw me out of this good good they 160 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: absolutely But were you Were you there when that happened? 161 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: Or no? 162 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: Fu no man? And if anything, I'd be pushing him 163 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: towards the security guard like he did it. Did it? 164 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd be the Russell Westbrook of the of the 165 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: of the Rest. 166 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: Keep this guy out of here. 167 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: So Kirie went. 168 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: He went hardcore, like hardcore and deep to the point 169 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: where I had no like I couldn't even communicate with him, 170 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: and there was just one other dude that could. 171 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: And his name was Angelo. 172 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And we all know Faz and we love Faz. 173 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: And when I started working there, he started working there 174 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: as well. And I took a little break, and you 175 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: came in when I did like a GM spot, just 176 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: to like say hello and help out and be a 177 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: part of the show. And I get asked this question 178 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: all the time, and I think I know why, but 179 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: it's better if you say it. But I get asked 180 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: this all the time. Why didn't you ever get Mac 181 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: to go and write for the w W E Oh man. 182 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 3: There were times where I wanted to like kind of 183 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: just you know, like find you know, six months of 184 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: my life at the very least, kind of go in 185 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: there and stuff. And you know, I will say, I 186 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: do kind of regret not doing that now now that 187 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: I'm a dad and stuff like that, Like I got I, Man, 188 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: I barely have time to pete at this point. 189 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: That's why I could. 190 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I know, yeah I figured that, you know, 191 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: yeah exactly, it all makes sense now, you know, But yeah, no, 192 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 3: I you know, I just never got around to it. Things, 193 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: you know, there was. There was always something I'm you know, 194 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: next thing, I know, I'm like on the road being 195 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 3: in a pizza band or something, you. 196 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: Know, like pizza band if out of like Europe or 197 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: you were in Paris or something. 198 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, then I moved to France for like five 199 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: years and stuff like that, you know. But also I 200 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: came up with some really great like uh Ray Wyatt 201 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 3: story angles, like when alone in my room in Paris, man, 202 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: you know, I really wanted to they called me up 203 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: for consultation kind of stuff like you know how yeah, yeah. 204 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: I know a few people they've reached out too for 205 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. 206 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, kind of just you know, what do you 207 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: think will make the brand better? What about that? And 208 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 3: they don't, you know, I think they might have like 209 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: done one or two things. And I was like, hey, 210 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I came up with it or nothing. 211 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I was like, oh, there 212 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: you go, you know, but you know, I'm just like, hey, 213 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: you know, why don't we make the shows slightly different? 214 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: Because I mean, just one's blue and one's red, like 215 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: you know, want you know, I said, you know, God 216 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: blessed Kevin Dunn. But you know, it's like nope, nope, no, 217 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: like you were, this is our products, like dig it man. 218 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: Look and he's very protective of it. 219 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: Man, He's like a yes, so he's really good at 220 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: what he does. What he does, Yeah, far be it 221 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 3: for me to criticize anything that he's saying. I'm just saying, well, 222 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: can we do something that's even just visually different, you know, 223 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: things like that. 224 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: Now they're the generation of go with what you know, 225 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: So they're they're like like Garth, they fear change. 226 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no shit, especially the product now. Fuck, dude, 227 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: like this is just I have to see one more 228 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: fucking Like, don't get me wrong, you know, I actually 229 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: looking forward to what will be different this time. But 230 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: if I see brock Lessener Roman reigns one more freaking time, 231 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, That's the thing is that, like they'll 232 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 3: do the same pay per view like back to back. 233 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: That was Sena and Norton for two years straight. 234 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: It felt like it's always like a like new day. 235 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: USO's like every freaking card, like you know, and it's 236 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 3: just like you know, and I understand that, like their 237 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: roster obviously isn't as deep as it was a year ago. 238 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: Back they've caught I think eighty six wrestlers from their 239 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 3: roster in the past calendar year. Yeah. Yeah, so it's like, 240 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: you know, like yeah, so like you don't really have 241 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 3: this rich for right that maybe you might have had 242 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 3: before and stuff. But even then, man, it's like, you know, 243 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: how many times can we watch the same match over? 244 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: I mean literally, I think it was just recently it 245 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: was like like Survivors series and I think they like, 246 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: you know, the one before that, they were like, I 247 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: think it was the two before that, they were virtually 248 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: the same card man, And it's just like, what the 249 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: fuck's going on. 250 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: When you when you and I were younger, they allowed 251 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: the storylines to develop sometimes for almost a year before 252 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: you got that that final payoff. And I think once 253 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: the Attitude era hit, they gave you everything right away 254 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: in a four week package, and it kind of changed 255 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: the way the stories were told, almost pay per view 256 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: to pay per view, and at a certain point, I 257 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: feel like you just run out of stories to tell, 258 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: so they. 259 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: Just go with what they know. And I'm not saying 260 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 2: this is. 261 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 3: You run out of stories. 262 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: Come on, they are running out of stories. 263 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: Believe I pitched one hundred if I pitched one every 264 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: week is just when you're pitching to a wall is 265 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: going to bounce back at you See. 266 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 3: That's kind of the problem, you know, that's that's that's 267 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: the problem right there, because you know there there there's 268 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: never gonna be a lack of stories. I mean, you 269 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: know Three's Company. You know, they had an episode in 270 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: the first season where they had to hide a puppy 271 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 3: from from yuh the Landlords, uh, the other Ropers, and 272 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: then in the season like six, they're they're hiding a 273 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: kitten from mister Furley. You know, it's just like, yeah, 274 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: it's like, man, you know, you can even you just 275 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: repackage some of this ship. You know, as long as 276 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: you give it enough time, you know, you can you can. 277 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: Do that had more time than any TV show ever. 278 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean I think there is something to 279 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: your point of like these longer stories. But at the 280 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: same time, there was less product on television, and you know, 281 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: you were totally fine with like you know, uh, you know, 282 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: watching bad News Brown beat up Jerry the Jobber, uh, 283 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: you know, on on Saturday mornings kind of thing. Like 284 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: you know, now then you know, no one's gonna be 285 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: like down with that there's only you know, like they 286 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: you can't really have too many Coco be Wares in 287 00:12:58,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: your company anymore, you know what I mean. 288 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: It's hard and you have to because you have to 289 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: have people that can lose, right, and you have to 290 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: give them a run at least once a year, at 291 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: least a baby run, so that they're credible that the 292 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: guys you want to get over, the girls you want 293 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: to get over, have a have a villain or a 294 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: or a or a good guy to beat. 295 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: That was the Dolf Ziggler kind of thing. Man. They 296 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: kept on jobbing them out, and he's just like, if 297 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: I don't win one, no one's like, you know, like 298 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 3: and listen, the guy bumps like a boss. I would 299 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: love to see him and a Kurt Henning, him and 300 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 3: Kurt Henning and a match together. Just all they're doing 301 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: is bumping and not actually attacking. 302 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: Selling each other the entire match. 303 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: By the way, those are the best matches when it's 304 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: two wrestlers trying to outsell each other. 305 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: Doesn't That'd be. 306 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 3: A freaking dream right there. You know, throw Shawn Michaels 307 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 3: in there too, like Sean That Sean Michaels. 308 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: It just does it like a double backflip, just. 309 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: Love it, Like, yeah, I want to see that, you know. 310 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: I mean definitely the Dolve Ziggler, Like he's guilty of 311 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 3: selling way too well, so next thing, you know, they 312 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: freaking job him out. 313 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: You know? 314 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, Mac, have you been to Kendrick's Wrestling pro wrestling 315 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 5: shows here in Los Angeles? 316 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: I took I took a buddy of years from New York, 317 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: Matt and his brother and they literally have matches like 318 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: that where it was he's a he's a wizard and 319 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: his name is the his name is the Great Branzino. 320 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: Well, let me back up. 321 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods brought Xavier Woods brought me and introduced me 322 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: to this, and I'm like, what am I seeing here? 323 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: And he goes, it's Holiday wrestling. I go, what are 324 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: you talking about Holiday wrestling? Goes, it's the Christmas Show. 325 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: He goes, I'm not telling you anything else, all right? 326 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: So we sit down. In the first match is a 327 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: guy named Emo Tep, but it's Emo E m O 328 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: Tep and he's. 329 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: A mummy and pretty shops a hot topic. 330 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: Well, he has a he has a each bandage that 331 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: comes down over his eye and the I make of 332 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: his Egyptian and dramatic, but he wrestles the way a 333 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: mummy would wrestle, very slowly. 334 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 335 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: And all the. 336 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: Matches are like this, and they put a Holidays story 337 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: around each one, and in this one in particular, it 338 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: was die Hard and they had literally a guy named 339 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: the Sexy Assassin who and he has a lisp, so 340 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: he sounds like Daffy Duck. He comes in in the 341 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: middle of the EMOTEP match and with all these like 342 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: lumberjack looking guys that are some aer buff, some are 343 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: not so buff, and uh, and he takes the microphone 344 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: and he goes, I'm I'm the fat via fath In. 345 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to do a Sexy Assassin because he 346 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: was too good. And he says uh. He says, I'm 347 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: taking over Wrestling Pro Wrestling, and to prove it, I'm 348 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: calling the owner of the company right now, and you 349 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: can listen in. 350 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: And we're in the Moose Lodge in Burbank, so it's 351 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: like a hundred people. 352 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and he calls he calls the owner of 353 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: Wrestling Pro Wrestling, and the speaker comes on and plays. 354 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: It ring. 355 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: Ring and I look at Exavier and I go nobody's 356 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: picking up, and he looks back at me and he goes, no, 357 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: he never picks up, and it reads about seven more 358 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: times and then he gets super mad and he hangs 359 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: up and he goes, well, just cause he's not there, 360 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't. 361 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: Mean I'm not taking over it. 362 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: And to help me, I brought a bunch of Lumberjack 363 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: orphans that were never adopted. And they all turn to 364 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: the crowd and they go, we're a our fans that 365 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: were never adopted, and the crowd, the crowd's literally yelling back, 366 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: we just heard him say that. Like they're going back 367 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: and forth. And then the only way that you can 368 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: save the show, of course from this this Hans Gruber's 369 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: sexy assassin who's taking over the show is you got 370 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: to have a John McLean, And that John McLean is 371 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: none other than a character they have named cereal Man. 372 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: And cereal Man is dressed like you and I, but 373 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: he has has this amazing prosthetic cereal box completely like 374 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: plastered to his head and it says wheedies. 375 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: And uh or whatever their version of. 376 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, like the the cosplay that they 377 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: do for these is top shelf. 378 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: They do full Kaiju matches. 379 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: Okay, like literally the Kaiju matches and people, giant monsters 380 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: are falling out of the ring and breaking. 381 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: It's hysterical. 382 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: So so John McClain comes our cereal man comes up 383 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: and he says, I'm gonna stop you, and throughout the 384 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: whole night, which about two and a half hour show, 385 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: he starts assassinating some of the lumberjacks. And at the 386 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: end of the show, the sexy Assassin gets the only 387 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: person close enough to serial Man that he can get leverage, right, 388 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: like the John McLain's wife whatever, Holly McClain, right, And 389 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: but their. 390 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: Version played by my aunt by the way. 391 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: Well side quest Hello, yeah. 392 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: That's my that's actually my Aunty Viadilly is my aunt. 393 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 3: She plays Holly McLain. 394 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 395 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: Yeh, family offas tight all back. 396 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: That's right. 397 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: So their Bonnie Badilia is of course pop Tart Boy, 398 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: who is a giant pop tart and only his hands 399 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: can poke out and his feet so he can't really wrestle. 400 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: And he's got him on top of the turnbuckle and 401 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna throw him off the turnbuckle the way they 402 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: were gonna fall out. 403 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: The knocka Tomi Plaza. 404 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: But here comes Cereal Man and he walks right by 405 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: Austin and I and instead of a nine millimeter tape 406 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: to his back, he's got back of cereal and. 407 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: He takes it off. And this guy, God. 408 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: Bless him that he throws it and it hits the 409 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: Sexy Assassin right in the head, and the Sexy Assassin 410 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: falls off, and then his vel crow gets stuck to 411 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: the Pop Tarts vel crow, and the Cereal man comes 412 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: in and undoes it, and the Sexy Assassin falls off 413 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: the turnbuckle and lands on the Lumberjack orphans that were 414 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: never adopted, and the main event that was supposed to 415 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: happen never happens. They literally just say thanks. 416 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: For coming out, and could not they do it for Thanksgiving. 417 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: I've seen them top it with RoboCop on Thanksgiving, which 418 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 1: was hysterical, like they do the weirdest stuff. But you 419 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: said something earlier that led me to this, which is 420 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: now I'm leading back to you. He said something like 421 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: eighty three wrestlers had been released. 422 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think eighty. 423 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: Six wrestlers have been released, right, People like Keith Lee, 424 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: people like Carry and Cross that I think are like, well, 425 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: that's a shock that you would release them, people like 426 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: Bray Wyatt, where I'm like, that's the only attraction left 427 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: in professional wrestling. But okay, that's weird Coretta with all 428 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: these wrestlers. And I already said this on a podcast 429 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: with Ariel Halwani. I just did this Netflix movie and 430 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing a couple more after this, and I'm putting 431 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: a little kitty together. Right in the old days, that 432 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: would be like a little piggy bank, a little kitty. 433 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: And I want to start, not to make money because 434 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 1: it won't, and not to compete with anyone, because I'm 435 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: not trying to do that, but just to start a 436 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: West Coast indie wrestling brand. And there's so many free now. 437 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: Granted I'm a year and a half away from this 438 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: coming to fruition. I just finished the first one, so 439 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: I'm still a little ways out. But when I'm ready 440 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: to go, I just want to have a two year 441 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: plan where if it makes money, cool, but it's probably not, 442 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: which is what my accountant said. 443 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're hoping for a break even endeavor. I'll take it. 444 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: I'll take it, and I'll try to do things the 445 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: old Cornet way. As far as business, I like if 446 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: I can find some places that actually want to play it. 447 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm just playing on my YouTube channel and screw 448 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: all of them. But I want to start an indie 449 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: league or an indie wrestling league. And I don't know 450 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: if I wanted to be kind of like I don't know, 451 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: if you're familiar with GCW or Cordona's Wrestling now, they 452 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: kind of they brought a lot of cool back to wrestling, 453 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: Like there's just some cool elements to it. But I 454 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: don't know if I want to go that direction or 455 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: if I want to go full like comedy wrestling, like wrestling. 456 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: The silly attraction kind of stuff. 457 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: If you and I were to we're to start a 458 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: wrestling brand, what would you. 459 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: Want it to be? 460 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: Oh like between those two, between those two, whatever you 461 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 3: wanted to be. 462 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: About it, and maybe, you know, in a year and 463 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: a half we do it. I don't know. 464 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 3: I like the silly stuff kind of thing. I think, 465 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 3: you know, I think that's something that's kind of missing, 466 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 3: uh from from wrestling, you know, uh, you know, like 467 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: that that attitude era still had that stuff. It's yeah, 468 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, Kane can still shoot lightning, you know, 469 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: like stuff like that like you know, yeah, like you know, 470 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 3: some of that kind of like that, that kind of 471 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: over the top ness. I think it has been sorely 472 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: missed in wrestling, So I think engaging in something like 473 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: that would be a lot of fun. 474 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: You know. 475 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 3: I always had this idea for a character called the arm. 476 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 477 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: It just he's got one strong arm and he does 478 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 3: all of his moves with his one arm, and the 479 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 3: other arm is just doesn't do any no effect, just 480 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: like you know, punch, punch, nothing, but this one's all chokes. 481 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh god, the arm, you know, Yeah, you. 482 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: Have to convince someone to get super buff on one side. 483 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, just on one arm again, Like, hey, bron Stroman, 484 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 3: Hey dude, would you mind just working out one arm 485 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 3: and just not giving. 486 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: You doubled to just completely morph your body. Didn't you 487 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: have like a comedy character that we were joking about 488 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: one time. I think we're talking about doing a like 489 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: a D and D wrestling league, and you were gonna 490 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: have a character named the Librarian. 491 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the library didn't interrupt promos. 492 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: Every time the crowd popped. He goes like, you know, 493 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 3: which is actually great heat. I'd love to see somebody 494 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: just always shushing the audience every time he loses because 495 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 3: he's so well schooled, because he's already read all the rules, 496 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 3: all the books on wrestling. Uh, he always can get 497 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 3: his losses overturned because of some kind of technicality. 498 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: Contests or something like that. 499 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. You know, so he's got a spotless record, 500 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 3: you know. 501 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, comedy wrestling. 502 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: Heck yeah no, he said, what is it? The doing 503 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 3: decimation system? You know that would be a finisher. 504 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, See this would be good at 505 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: a Moose Lodge place. 506 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 3: If you're going for silly young your man. You know, 507 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 3: we can come up with all kinds of stuff. 508 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 2: You believe me. I know. Okay, I love. 509 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 3: This Netflix funded wrestling Federation. 510 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: All right, man. They don't care where I put my money, 511 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 2: all right. 512 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, No, No, I'm just care Yeah, like doing gigs 513 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 3: exclusively to make sure. 514 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: I fall in love in ninety six minutes or less. 515 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: That's all they care. 516 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 517 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: It'll it'll fund my ultimate Warrior inspired wrestling fans. 518 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: See, but we're not we're not going to say that. 519 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, taking and taking the Jim Courtnett like like package 520 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: like all right, yeah right. 521 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: I just like his business package. 522 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: That's all I want to end on uh on women's wrestling, 523 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: because when I got there, the women had five minute 524 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: matches and two minutes of it was their intros. 525 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 3: So yeah, and I mean I think the like, what 526 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 3: were you either like Lda and Trish and stuff like that. No, 527 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: I was, oh, geez geez. Yeah, I mean just I mean, 528 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: I forget what the people nicknamed that, but yeah, I 529 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: mean it was it was just it was just kind 530 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 3: of just trashy. It was just you know, good looking 531 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: women like riding around with each other. You know it 532 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,479 Speaker 3: skin me up? 533 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they it was. It was goofy. 534 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: And when I got there their matches, they weren't allowed 535 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: to do much. I would see the producers literally tell 536 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: Vince in the production meetings like look on the road 537 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: were let these girls work and they can do these moves. 538 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: They're not getting hurt. They've been doing them for months now. 539 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: You gotta let them be. 540 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: Like, oh no, they're gonna get hurt. They can't do it. 541 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: And so the women had to fight girls like Eve Torres, 542 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: the Bellas, McCool and Layla they were like lay cool 543 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: or something like that. That was in between my two 544 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: stints was the Lay Cool Experiment, Beth Phoenix, Natty Knightheart 545 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: like that was the that was. 546 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: Like the group that was there. 547 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: There are some legit talents, yeah, but. 548 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: They had no time. 549 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: And then I left and the Total Diva Show started 550 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: out rating segments of aw and all of a sudden, 551 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: the women that were on that show started getting nine 552 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: minute matches and then they had commercial breaks, and then 553 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: that next generation of wrestlers came in and really just 554 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: took flight off of that foundation to where they were Headlinron, Yeah, 555 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: Banks and Bailey had a sixty minute Iron Woman match 556 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: on nx HE. When it was before it looked like 557 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: you can't do that on television. 558 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't get me started. 559 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: Started. There's a salt box right over there. 560 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: But they kind of like took flight, and then all 561 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: these releases happened, and it looks as if they're pushing 562 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: more towards that pretty girl less time. I don't time 563 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: the women's matches, but I have timed a couple of 564 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: them because it felt, well, I don't they felt like 565 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: they've been getting shorter and what worth thirteen minute matches 566 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: or eleven minute matches now? So if I'm worried that 567 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: it's going back the other direction. But if they keep 568 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: releasing them ae W, who I've I find lacking in 569 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: a women's roster as far as. 570 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's one of their one of their flaws. 571 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 3: I think otherwise, I think they're actually a really cool company. 572 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: I dig with it. 573 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: I do too. 574 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: What about and they would have to start it by 575 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: signing a bunch of these winsen? But what if ae 576 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: W did a women's division and gave it an hour 577 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: and a half or gave it the full two hours 578 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: on one of their nights. They have a lot of men. 579 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: They don't necessarily talk. 580 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 3: About that is there? We was There's been talk about 581 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: like you know, like a women's only kind of show, 582 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, well. 583 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: They're gonna try with wow, but they don't have the 584 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: level of talent the a W. 585 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well no, no, no, no, I'm talking gosh, I forget 586 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 3: which which where there was uh it was somebody was 587 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 3: talking about this. No, not not just a fed that 588 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 3: is all women. It's like literally just giving the women 589 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 3: a show, you know, like that kind of thing, giving 590 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: them an hour, like kind of a week. And I think, yeah, 591 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 3: I don't I don't think it's w w E. But 592 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: I I just remember I think it was some it 593 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: was a women's wrestler that was like Ring of Honor. 594 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Ring of Honor women sounds great. 595 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 3: It sucks that we were at a point where like yeah, 596 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: like you kind of do have to time in some 597 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 3: of these matches like that's actually you know, like the 598 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: fact that we that that that's even a notion, uh 599 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: is messed up. Like that's not the way it should be. 600 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: You know, look at like they're putting together insane. 601 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: Sorry for interrupting, Go ahead. 602 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, no, that's what I mean. Is that 603 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 3: like before when they were just these five minute men. 604 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: I mean, women's wrestling was a joke from like you 605 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 3: know what I like, from even with the like when 606 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: I first started watching the Rock and Robin and stuff 607 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: like that, and just like fuck, man, I don't like 608 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 3: it was just like that was your pee break, you know, yeah, man, 609 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: wasn't a lot going on, you know, Yeah, and then 610 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 3: they didn't really you know, I think there was I 611 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 3: think that kind of stigma like kind of stuck for 612 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 3: a while until you actually started like letting some of 613 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 3: these women cut loose and actually you know, do some things. 614 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, you know, now, like you know, you 615 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 3: can it's not crazy for them to headline WrestleMania or 616 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 3: to close the show at Survivors. 617 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: You can put Charlotte Flair in any WrestleMania main event 618 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: and people are gonna want to watch. 619 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's. 620 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: No brain, regardless of men or women or whatever, like exactly, 621 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 3: like you know, it's it's just good. 622 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is her peak, this is her time, man Like, 623 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: she's she may not be the best actor, but she 624 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: owns that character. 625 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: And when she stays in that character and. 626 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: She never breaks, it's gold man like. She's just she 627 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: should never be a babyface. As for as long as 628 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: John Cena wasn't a heel, like that's that's how long 629 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: she should be a heel for it. 630 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that's I think that's fair. 631 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, Becky Lynch is a heel is kind 632 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: of a interesting. 633 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't buy that she's always. 634 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 3: That's the problem is that you don't you don't buy it, 635 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: like you know, it's it's it's it's the term didn't 636 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: work right, you know, that kind of thing. People people 637 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 3: still won't like. People still freaking are cheering for her 638 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: and stuff. 639 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: That's Charlotte and Beef. 640 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: That that herd that she and Charlotte had is still 641 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: so fresh in people's minds, and it's like for them 642 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: to just get that one match out of that and 643 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: then just say, well, they're on different brands, so it's over. 644 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: It's like, man, that's that's three pay per views. You 645 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: could get three pay per views out of that. 646 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: Easy, easy, easily. 647 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: She could interfere with her on Raw, Charlotte could interfere 648 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: with her on SmackDown for what for four months? 649 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: Okay whatever? 650 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I've always have two minds when it 651 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: comes to the brand split anyway. You know, it gives 652 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: people more TV time, you know, and we have a 653 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: deep roster. I think that's a good, you know, good thing. 654 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: They've got a lot of talent that you know, you 655 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: want to be able to see. But at the same time, 656 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: it's like I don't think they It does prevents you 657 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: from certain kind of matchups, and not necessarily in a 658 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: good way. There's not these dream matchups per se that 659 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 3: you actually like, Oh, I can't wait till you know 660 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: Survivor series where's you know, Big E gets to get 661 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: take on Roman brains like that. You know, it doesn't 662 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 3: tickle you in that kind of way. But you know, 663 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: like I don't think they've taken full advantage of it, 664 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: Like you know, I think maybe they tried to do 665 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: like an invasion storyline once or twice or something like that. 666 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: You know. But again, they're the same product, like you know, 667 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: on both shows, Like stylistically they're the same. They look 668 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: this one is just blue when the other one is red, 669 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 3: and like that's that's it's just you know, so I 670 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: you know, I don't even pay attention to who's on 671 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: what roster anymore, you know what I mean. I can 672 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: tell what I just glance at what color their belt is. 673 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: But otherwise, like I don't know who's on you know, 674 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: don't know what show misses on. I just know that 675 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: he's on it, and. 676 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: It isn't important to the fans which show they're on anymore. 677 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 3: Like there is not a brand, you know, because they're 678 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 3: actually they aren't separate brands. They're both WWE. 679 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: By the way, how can they make NXT look so different? 680 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: But they can't make SmackDown and Raw look different in 681 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: any way, shape. 682 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: Or for in any way exactly. 683 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: And I don't mean for the better, Like I don't 684 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: think they improved NXT. 685 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: I thought I thought n XT went from the most 686 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: watchable product in WWE too unwatchable in a week, like 687 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: it just there was nothing. 688 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: There was just nothing there for me. 689 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: And they have some wrestlers that I still like, but 690 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 1: I just don't And the name thing I still don't get, Like, 691 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 1: I just they got. They got Rick Steiner's kid and 692 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna call himself bron Breaker. Kids love it, 693 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: but likeker Man like, and then they'll change it when 694 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: he gets to RAW and it'll be you know, brick Brackman. 695 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I don't Ricky Reckman. 696 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 2: I just don't get it. 697 00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 3: Man. 698 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,239 Speaker 1: Like what they do to carry across was insane. They 699 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: had a guy who looked like Jesus turned. 700 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 3: Him to Immortal Kombat Man. 701 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: That he had on red suspenders. They put him, they 702 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: put him in red. You know how imagine imagine you 703 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: You create this great character right as an actor, and 704 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: then a new director comes onto the movie and is like, 705 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: hey man, we feel like for this. 706 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: You lost all your hair, like you you. 707 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: Have a unicorn, You're just like these movies made a 708 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: billion dollars. This is your first movie, man, Like, even 709 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: if it's your tenth, what are you talking about. When 710 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: he came out in like the porno dungeon mask and 711 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: the red suspenders, I literally I didn't. 712 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: I didn't. I felt bad for the guy. I didn't 713 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: even know him. I reached out to a wrestler that 714 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: I do. 715 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: Know, who I happened to know was on the road 716 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: with him, and I was like, Yo, man, give that 717 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: dude a hug for me. 718 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: You just don't even know the dude. 719 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: They FaceTime me that night. He was driving and it 720 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: was Morrison. John Morrison was riding Shotgun and I literally like, bro, 721 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, and he was like, dude, thanks man, 722 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: it's been hard, but. 723 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: I just I got it. He goes, I gotta stay 724 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 2: with you. 725 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 3: It's like it's like his grandma died something. 726 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 2: Him and his girl Scarlet. I don't Scarlet board though. 727 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: They were like the Evil Macho and Elizabeth for NXT 728 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, we're gonna split you guys up. 729 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: And you look like a linebacker who could legit beat 730 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: up everybody, So we're. 731 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 2: Gonna get rid of that too. In some video game 732 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: costumes and see how that goes. 733 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: I I never felt bad for someone, or if I not, 734 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: since I worked in the company, I haven't felt bad 735 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: for someone. 736 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: What it was, I well remember I was it Harper 737 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 3: and Rowan because a bash brother, they give him big accidents. 738 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: My daughter, my daughter, dad, Why are they doing that 739 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: to these big guys? 740 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 2: She was she's twelve now, I think she was. 741 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: Ten then, and I'm like, yo, my daughter knows what 742 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: humongous men don't need weapons? 743 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 2: How do you not know that? 744 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: I people think it would make that better if she 745 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 3: was fighting through tears to say it. 746 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: You know, Matt when they gave him the basket that 747 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: he kept covered. My my daughter literally just walked in 748 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: the room, looked at the TV. 749 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 2: She was eleven, I think at this. 750 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: Point, and goes here we go again, and was walked out, 751 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, she's. 752 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: Eleven and doesn't want to watch? Like, what are you 753 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: doing to these humongous people? 754 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, exactly. I feel like they've kind of, you know, 755 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 3: the E is really kind of lost focus on on 756 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 3: all this, and I, you know, I think there is 757 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 3: some kind of master plan. You know, they're bringing all 758 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 3: these new people and they're I mean personally, I think 759 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 3: they're going to sell. I think that's exactly why you're 760 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 3: exactly probative what they say. Yeah, you know, I think 761 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: Vince doesn't feel like anyone like you know, and his 762 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 3: family can do this. You know, he'd like Vince had 763 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: to buy the company from his dad. So he's like, 764 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: all right, Stephanie, if you want to buy it, you know, 765 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 3: you have to kill the billion dollars. 766 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I haven't. 767 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: I haven't said this before, but I'll say it now 768 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: because Ben long enough. So I was talking to a 769 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: dude who was interviewing to be their COEO or do that. 770 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: They wanted to interview, and they ended up going with 771 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: Nick conn He had he had passed, but he just 772 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,919 Speaker 1: wanted to talk to me about the company another and 773 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: uh so we were just talking about the brand and 774 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: all this. He goes, Yeah, they wanted us to buy 775 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: the whole product. He was an exec at Fox. He goes, 776 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: they want us to buy the whole brand. But the 777 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,399 Speaker 1: number they wanted wasn't a number we were going to pay. 778 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: So we licensed SmackDown instead. And I said, were you 779 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: going to overpay? 780 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? I said, were you even considering the job? 781 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: He goes, no, but I just wanted to talk to 782 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: you to make sure I wasn't like crazy and lose 783 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: my mind. I said, a man, it's a crazy place 784 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: to work. So you got a nice job in La. 785 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: Your family's in La. Stay in La. But I knew 786 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: they were going to saw a long time ago off that, 787 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: and that hit me like a ton of bricks. I 788 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: was just like, yo, Vince, isn't gonna let anyone have it. 789 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's crazy. 790 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 3: Have a faceless corporation have it rather than like you know, 791 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 3: keep it in the family. 792 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 2: Man. 793 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: We're going to start a wrestling federation. We got to 794 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: think of a name. We'll start texting you ideas. 795 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 3: Don't forget the arms and the librarian. 796 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: We have to make sure we. 797 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: Have both of them. I could just do steroids in 798 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: one arm for like six months. 799 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm willing. I'm willing to make the sacristic. 800 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: All right, there you go. 801 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 2: We found it works like that. 802 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's how it works. Just want to just 803 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 3: keep injecting in the bush. 804 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: You got it. 805 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: I haven't Drago style, all right, dude, Thank you so 806 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: much for being a guest. Thank you for being a friend. 807 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: Like the Golden Girls always said. 808 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you. Actually, I got my son some 809 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 3: Golden Girls. 810 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: Really, I'm gonna tell Woodsy that he's going on the 811 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: Golden Girl Cruise. 812 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Oh yeah, I remember because he asked for 813 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: time off. I heard about this. He has for time off, 814 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 3: like like do this freaking thing. All yeah, So I 815 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: got I got that, got him some of these little 816 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 3: little things so you can play with his little Elmo and. 817 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: All right, my brother, thank you and enjoy being enjoyed 818 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 2: being a great dad. 819 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 3: That's the idea. 820 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: This has been a production of iHeart Radio's Michael Tua 821 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 1: podcast network. 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