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Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashaan McDonald. Our theme is

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Speaker 1: there's no perfect time to start following your dreams. I

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Speaker 1: recognize that we all have different definitions of success. For

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Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories to start living your own.

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Speaker 1: Keep winning. I am going to be talking about how

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Speaker 1: to be a successful business owner. Well guess what I

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Speaker 1: have failed. I have done so many mistakes and I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask some questions about it.

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Speaker 2: This.

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Speaker 1: Has anybody ever thought about you can raise your hand,

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Speaker 1: didn't you do it? Have you ever thought about hiring

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Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about hiring relatives and guess what,

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Speaker 1: you hired those relatives. Have you ever hired people that

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Speaker 1: you were getting a good deal on them? Oh they

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Speaker 1: got Oh they cheap. Oh that salary fits right into

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Speaker 1: Am I tapping into the right lanes with some of

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Speaker 1: Am I tapping into anybody out there? Yet? Okay? How

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Speaker 1: about this? How about this? You start a business with

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Speaker 1: somebody you don't know? How about that? How about how

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Speaker 1: about this? You start a business? You know, I'm from Texas.

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Speaker 1: So they say you can start a business with a

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Speaker 1: you don't make how to be a successful business owner?

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Speaker 1: As a bold statement for me to say marketing and branding.

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Speaker 1: Have a company called thirty and fifteen Media, Inc. Based

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia. I started it as an idea and

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Speaker 1: I just started hiring people. Were they the best qualified people? No?

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Speaker 1: In hindsight, No, But I knew them. I knew them,

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Speaker 1: they knew me. We had long term relationships, they could

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Speaker 1: You know I would tell people this. I get up

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Speaker 1: and everybody sees the profit line, you know, they buy franchise.

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Speaker 1: So when you buy a franchise, what they do is

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Speaker 1: Listen to me, now, your best interest because what they

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Speaker 1: up to the standards. They have, copyright, they have, they have.

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Speaker 1: I was not successful at my comedy club, even though

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Speaker 3: So guess what he kept saying, Hey, man, you got it,

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Speaker 3: you got it, you got it. Well, guess what I

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Speaker 3: I had family WHOA. When we come back, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: talk about hiring family. Who hire family, So that's a

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Speaker 3: This with Sean McDonald Marking and Brandy Expert telling you

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Speaker 1: We've already covered have time for your business. Now we're

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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Rashan McDonald. I'm telling everybody this is

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Speaker 4: any recommended sources where we could learn how to properly

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Speaker 1: Absolutely called Small Business Administration. They're in every major city

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Speaker 4: I'm learning a lot. Don't hire your family.

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