1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,720 Speaker 1: This is John. 2 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: This is your og Okay Storytime podcast hosts, and. 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: We have some rocking stories for you coming up. 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 3: But before you rock out with your socks out, I 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 3: got a quick tune in an ad break from a 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: sponsors keeping the show rocking and rolling. 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 4: My roommate is a messy and disrespectful I want to 8 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 4: kick her out. 9 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: See. 10 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 4: I female twenty lived with three other girls in a 11 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 4: college house and it's not going well. We all met 12 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 4: freshman year of college and recently decided to move into 13 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 4: a house together for this upcoming academic year. And always 14 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 4: starts like that. By the way, this comes from Global 15 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 4: Conclusion ninety two on the r slash Okay Storytime suburd. 16 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: When we moved in, we all agreed on some ground 17 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 4: rules that we felt would be easy to abide to 18 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 4: keep the main living areas, such as the living room 19 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 4: and kitchen picked up, be communicative on problems with our 20 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 4: living situation, and don't start any unnecessary drama with housemates. 21 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 5: It sounds so simple, doesn't it. Face It sounds so easy, right, 22 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 5: I have rules. 23 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 4: No one's gonna break the ever, that's. 24 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: Why they're there. It can't be broken. 25 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 4: It's illegal. Typical things we thought that were pretty standard rules. 26 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 4: When we all got moved in and settled, we started 27 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 4: to notice how one girl, in particular, female nineteen, would 28 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 4: behave and treat us. She had a tendency before to 29 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 4: be pretty snappy and short, but nothing we had first 30 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 4: hand been experiencing with her ourselves. Now it seemed like 31 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: she had a problem with someone in the house about something. Constantly. 32 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: We brushed it off, feeling like it would pass, after all, 33 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: we were just settling into living with each other. However, 34 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 4: this never eased up. Soon this roommate was leaving dirty 35 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 4: dishes and rotting food all over the house. The counters 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 4: were always dirty, her trash piling high and any court 37 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: of the house, and potent rotting smell that started attracting 38 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 4: a variety of ants and spiders My nightmare. 39 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just an entomologist. 40 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: She wants all of the bugs to come to her. 41 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: She's leaving little snacks for her bug friends. 42 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: We decided to gently remind in the group chat, Hey, 43 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: whoever's dirty dishes that are on the counter, can please 44 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 4: get them cleaned up for cooking space tonight. Thank you. 45 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 4: I don't know who it is, but whoever's leaving it, 46 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: we could just move it. 47 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: I like the group chat is the new version of 48 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 5: like leaving a note on the fridge. Now this is 49 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 5: not to anyone in particular, but you know who you are. 50 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: They were never direct, but we always knew whose they were. 51 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 4: Soon enough, we were cleaning her mass number of dishes, 52 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: throwing away her food, et cetera. She refused to help 53 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: around the house. We finally decided to bring this up 54 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 4: to her that she needed to be doing her part. 55 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: We agreed on it. When we said we would all 56 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: move in together and she needed to hold up her 57 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: end of the agreement. She immediately got upset, claiming we 58 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 4: were attacking her when we decided to address this in person. 59 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 4: This wasn't the first time we have heard a statement 60 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 4: like this. Whenever she came home from work, it was 61 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: my boss was attacking me or our landlord was screaming 62 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: at me. Today, we decided this was a pointless fight 63 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 4: where we were talking to a brick wall. So life 64 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: carried on. We decided to start taking pictures of this 65 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: mess in fear that our landlord will blame this all 66 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: on us and the other three of us will lose 67 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: our deposit. The other three of us excluding female nineteen 68 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 4: decided to take a step back and start to reevaluate 69 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 4: when this attitude and behavior started up, I thought back 70 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: to when I was having a hard time with a 71 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 4: falling out with the situationship of mine. She always had 72 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: to say how she couldn't stand this man. She had 73 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: never spoken to him. We were pretty private about it. 74 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: My roommates knew of him and saw pictures of him, 75 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: and that was it, and she said that he was ugly. 76 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 4: I chalked this up to personal preference. A couple months later, 77 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: we were in my dorm room alone one night and 78 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: she bluntly, out of nowhere, said how she added him 79 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: after we fell out. 80 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 5: I think maybe that she's about to get dumped by 81 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 5: the same situationship that OP got dumped by. But also 82 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 5: shout out to all the people like holding onto a 83 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 5: situationship that's. 84 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: Rough, it hurts. 85 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: Let go of that, guys, Oh one tell you that 86 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: you have to settle for nothing. This girl that always 87 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 4: gave me grief about him added him after our falling out. 88 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 4: I told her she should leave for the night before 89 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: I said or did something. She was like, don't you 90 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: dare talk to my situationship. 91 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's my situation show anyone. 92 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: Else can have any sort of situation with him. I 93 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: was fuming at the fact. The only thing that eased 94 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 4: my mind was when she tried snapping him. He removed 95 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: her immediately. I brought this up to the other roommates 96 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: and they had similar situations with her men they would 97 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: be talking to, she would suddenly add and be flirting 98 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: with and attempting to send spicy pigs to. We felt 99 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 4: like this was crossing multiple lines, not respecting us or 100 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 4: who we were talking to. This is where the start 101 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: of the disrespect would stem from. A month passes and 102 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 4: things don't get any better. The other three of us 103 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 4: are starting to get heavily into our classes and working 104 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: our part time jobs. Some of us two of these, 105 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 4: it wasn't unusual for us to come home tired all 106 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: the time and want to just go to bed for 107 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: the night. This was something that could never happen. Every 108 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 4: night she would bang kitchen cab and it's slam doors, 109 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: or just stomp around the house all the time from 110 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 4: eleven PM to four am. I'd go crazy. 111 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 5: So she's loud, dirty, and she's trying to steal all 112 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 5: their men. Yes, get her out yes, she sounds like 113 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 5: a rap position. 114 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 4: She's a raccoon. She's a man stealing raccoon. 115 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 5: He's a man stealing out a year, he was digging 116 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 5: through the trash in the middle of the night. 117 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: None of us were getting any sleep, three to five 118 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 4: hours a night average. Our patients was starting to run 119 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 4: extremely thin. The phone calls weren't any better. She was 120 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: always on the phone with her mom, and you could 121 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: overhear every conversation, negative about anything and everything, and multiple 122 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 4: phone calls bad mouthing us as people. 123 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 5: Her roommate, Your roommates, that can hear that you that's 124 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 5: crazy wild? 125 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 4: We could always hear them. Soon, these habits rolled into 126 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 4: the day and she's slamming cabinets, doors, huffing and making 127 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: us feel bad about how her life has inconvenience because 128 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: she had to direct a call work. We have multiple 129 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 4: broken hinges on doors and cabinets. We've had to have 130 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 4: our landlord fixed because of this. How hard is she says. 131 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: Slamming me? 132 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 5: Ah, it shakes the foundation of the house when she 133 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 5: slams these doors. 134 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 4: We bring this up to her. Finally, same story, we're 135 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: just attacking her. Finally, I boil over one weekend, after 136 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: nearly two months of multiple classes, working two part time jobs, 137 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 4: and getting hardly any sleep. At the end of the day, 138 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: I snapped. I had gotten home from a long shift 139 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: twelve am when I got a text from female nineteen 140 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 4: roommate that I can't park in my usual spot without 141 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 4: having a flat tire in the morning from her making 142 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: a mess in my parking spot. I told her, no 143 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: harm done as long as it got cleaned the next day, 144 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 4: when I would be working the equivalent of a twelve 145 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: hour shift between both jobs. The next morning. It was 146 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: a long day of work where I had no downtime, 147 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: to the point where I was changing my work uniform 148 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 4: in my car and a parking lot so I could 149 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 4: be on time for the next job shift I worked. 150 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 4: I was purely living off of energy drains to stay awake. 151 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: Oof that's row. I finally got home that night, once 152 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: again at twelve am, exhausted. Surprise, surprise, my parking spot 153 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: still wasn't cleaned up. What was in the parking spot? 154 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: Liked she did? 155 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 5: She spill a box of screws and nails behind her. 156 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: Glass bottle and was like, well, that's that's that. I guess. 157 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: I guess that broken glass is going to stay there forever. 158 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: I shot a text along the lines of what the 159 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 4: heck didn't you say you were going to clean that 160 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 4: up today? The only reply was that she was busy 161 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: sleeping all day whatever. I showered and went to bed. 162 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: Everyone was out clubbing, so the house was quiet. Two 163 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: am rolled around and I was woken up with slamming 164 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: and stumbling in the kitchen. I went to investigate, and 165 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: I saw my one roommate helping a guy drink water 166 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 4: and try to sober up as he threw up in 167 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: the kitchen. What surprised me more, though, was Female nineteen 168 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 4: sitting rubbing the stranger's shin, comforting him. She was never 169 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: in all the years we've known her helpful after we 170 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 4: had about night and we're bombiting, but we always had 171 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: to help her. If I wasn't already upset enough at 172 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 4: the fact I was woken up at two am, this 173 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: was definitely helping sour my mood. I sat quietly in 174 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: the kitchen, observing, just to make sure this guy didn't 175 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: need a hospital or something. Female nineteen was talking and 176 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 4: I honestly was not paying attention. Soon I hear her 177 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: go I feel like you're not thrilled with me. I answered, honestly, no, 178 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: I'm not thrilled with you, in what I felt a 179 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 4: dull entire tone. She then went, well, you don't need 180 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: to be yelling at me, I snapped, how many times 181 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: have I heard this sentence when I'm trying to explain 182 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 4: something about my comfortability to her? How many times does 183 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 4: she not let us speak her feelings because we're yelling 184 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 4: or attacking her? So I finally decided to show her 185 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 4: how I actually yell and can rip. But excuse this 186 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 4: next part for reciting my colorful language. A small background 187 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: on me. My family has loud, booming voices on one 188 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: side when a member gets upset and starts to yell. 189 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 4: I inherited this, and she was going to know it. 190 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: I started yelling at her how she's a piece of 191 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: crap roommate and friend. I was tired of accommodating and 192 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: babing her when us other roommates got nothing in return 193 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: from her. She turns her head away, annoying me even further. 194 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: I went on yelling more in depth about how I 195 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 4: and why I couldn't stand her anymore. At one point, 196 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 4: my roommate says we can discuss it in the morning 197 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: and she'll handle the guys. We go to bed. I'm 198 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: leaving the kitchen and I can hear her mumble something 199 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 4: about me being a certain name under her breath. I 200 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 4: stormed back in and told her what I actually say 201 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: that to my face and act tough. What do you 202 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 4: want us to go outside and I can kick your bite? 203 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 4: Let's go once again. My other roommate said not worth 204 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: it and I needed to go to my room. She 205 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: was right, and I did. As I was walking away, 206 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: I heard female nineteen trying to talk to the other 207 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: roommate and say how she didn't deserve to be treated 208 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 4: like that. When my other roommate piped up and spoke, 209 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 4: just effing move out. Then, honestly loved hearing that. Felt 210 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: like I wasn't alone, even though I definitely overreacted, but 211 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 4: it would never be an overreac action. For you to 212 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: join us live every weekday on YouTube at three PMPs two, 213 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: you just tap our profile. 214 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: This is very typical. 215 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 5: If I feel like an early sort of roommate experience, 216 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 5: like everyone has had, like a nightmare roommate, and if 217 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 5: you haven't, I hate to tell you that might mean 218 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 5: that you were the nightmare roommate. 219 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 6: Ooh. 220 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: I think the what's telling is that she was like, 221 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 5: you don't have to yell at me, and then OP 222 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 5: is like, oh, you want to you want to see yelling? Okay, 223 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 5: we'll do some yelling now, Like now you want you 224 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 5: want to actually get yelled at. 225 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Here's what that feels like. 226 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 5: So yeah, it feels like that this roommate was just 227 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 5: like not accountable for anything she ever did, and if 228 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 5: anyone ever pushed her on anything, she just like immediately 229 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 5: responded by being like, what you're being mean to me 230 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 5: and you're yelling at me? 231 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 2: And I do not deserve that. 232 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 4: I think OP was, you know, pushed to her limits, 233 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 4: and if this is the only way to get this 234 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 4: girl out of their apartment, maybe maybe it needn't happen. 235 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 4: We talked this out later, apologizing for our actions with her, 236 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 4: mostly making excuses on her habits and behavior, followed with 237 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 4: empty promises to improve. It's still hasn't and I want 238 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 4: nothing more than her to just get so pissed off 239 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 4: she moves out. I think my other two roommates think 240 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: this as well, as they all have similar situations with her. 241 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 4: Am I the a hole for my reactions and actions. 242 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: If not, what is a better way to get our 243 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: house civilized and functioning. Sorry, this is all probably poorly written, 244 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: but we need some type of help or advice. 245 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 5: I think if you would have gone outside and like 246 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 5: had a fist fight with her, maybe that would make 247 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 5: you the a hole a little bit. It's a hard 248 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 5: thing to have these kind of discussions with people absolute 249 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 5: and keep it respectable, especially at that age when they're like, 250 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 5: what nineteen. 251 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: And just not listen, Like you've brought it up so 252 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: many times, yeah, and nothing has changed. 253 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 5: It feels like it got to the point where it 254 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 5: was like there was no other way to convey to 255 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 5: the roommate just how upset everyone was and how. 256 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: Lacking she was in the responsibility department. 257 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 4: Like sometimes there has to be the a hole, Like 258 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 4: someone's in the group has to be the ale because 259 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: no one wants to confront the problem for and so 260 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 4: if he's like you know what, ah, it's two am. 261 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 5: On doing it, it's just being direct, Like there's there's 262 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 5: I feel like oftentimes there's this equivalency of like being 263 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 5: an a hole and just like being straight up with somebody. 264 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I don't even know if the yelling will 265 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 4: work with her. It might just be a situation where 266 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: she just has to you have to move out. 267 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 5: My roommate is furious that I offered food to his girlfriend, 268 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 5: so I told him to move out. 269 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 4: If he's complaining about your kindness, that he has to go. 270 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 5: I twenty one male, am from the South. I grew 271 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 5: up in New Orleans and Texas. My mom runs a 272 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 5: catering business, and the majority of clients were either at 273 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 5: home in Louisiana or in Texas. I had this to 274 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 5: say that I grew up cooking and helping my mom 275 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 5: cook for the business. By the way, this comes from 276 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: user Darling Deer on the r slash Okay Storytime subbread. 277 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 5: I was frying chicken and catfish when I could reach 278 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 5: the stove, and making gumbo and buttermilk biscuits at a 279 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: very young age. I'm currently in culinary school right now. 280 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 5: Oh so this guy's like a guy who cooks. This 281 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 5: good guy because he loves it, and also he's got. 282 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: That kind of Southern culture of like presumably feeding people 283 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 4: and having that kid. 284 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's I've been frying chicken since I could reach 285 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 5: that stove I've lived in a rented house on the 286 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 5: East Coast with my roommate twenty two mail for a 287 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 5: year and a half. He's not a friend or anything. 288 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 5: We just linked up because we both needed roommates in 289 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 5: the area. He's good to live with, and we watch 290 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 5: shows and movies together. We hang out and go for 291 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 5: drinks sometimes. I always make friends easy because of being 292 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 5: from the South and doing customer service related things since 293 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 5: I was a kid. I know how to talk and 294 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 5: I know how to charm and listen to folks, despite 295 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 5: being naturally more in the introverted spectrum. My roommate has 296 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 5: been seeing his girlfriend, twenty male for like six months. 297 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 5: I've met her before and seen her in passing. Roommate 298 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 5: and his girlfriend had a two week break from school things. 299 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 5: She still lives at her parents, so she decided to 300 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 5: stay here the whole two weeks. I was just doing 301 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 5: things as I would normally do. It got weird at 302 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 5: first when I was about to go mow the lawn 303 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 5: and the roommate stopped me and said he wanted to mow. 304 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 5: A couple of days later, I was outside washing my 305 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: car asked both of them if they wanted me to 306 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 5: do theirs. She looked like she was going to agree, 307 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 5: but he looked at her angrily, so they declined. I 308 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 5: cook pretty frequently at home as well, and usually let 309 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 5: my roommates have some, So anytime i'd make some, I 310 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 5: would say that they could have some, and this would 311 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 5: get him pissed. Weeks prior, when she was here and 312 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 5: we were all talking, she mentioned this specific kind of 313 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 5: cheesecake that she really likes, so I made and sent 314 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 5: out a group text that everyone could have it. 315 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: My roommate got upset. 316 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: This is like another level of jealousy where someone's literally 317 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: just making food for people and you're like, yeah, you 318 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,119 Speaker 4: can't do that. I'm trying to steal my girlfriend. 319 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: How dare you make sustenance something my girlfriend? 320 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: She's gonna realize that you're so much better than me. 321 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you trying to do? Steal her way 322 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: with your delicious treats? 323 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 5: Did you ever think that maybe you should be making treats? 324 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: I don't see this as overstepping a boundary, as this 325 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 5: is how I treat him in all of our guests. 326 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 5: The other day, he told me how annoying it was 327 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 5: to hear his girlfriend talk about how good your roommate's 328 00:14:58,520 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 5: fresh baked bread. 329 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: It you need to be his sous chef. 330 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: Come on, he'll probably teach you. 331 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 5: Op is just a nice Southern gentleman. I'm not trying 332 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 5: to make him look bad or anything. This is simply 333 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 5: how I was raised. If I bake two loaves of bread, 334 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna leave it out for. 335 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: The house to eat. 336 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 5: And we got a couple edits here. The cheesecake is 337 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 5: just a common courtesy type of thing to me. When 338 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 5: his parents came over, I made pound cake because they 339 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 5: like it. If a guest is coming, you get or 340 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 5: make what they like. Nothing odd about picking up their 341 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 5: favorite chips or making some tea when guests arrived. 342 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: That's just how I was raised. 343 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: I love this guy. 344 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, that's just how he was made Southern hospital. 345 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 4: That's how they. 346 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: Made me down there in the South. 347 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 5: While this is blown up, just want to say that 348 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 5: we generally have a good roommate relationship. We're not best friends, 349 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 5: but it's been friendly enough. The only change has been 350 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 5: when his girlfriend is here. So no, I'm not looking 351 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 5: for new roommates or to be adopted or to move. 352 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 5: But thanks. Here are some more things that upset him. 353 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 5: I went to the grocery store and asked if anyone 354 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 5: needed anything that upset him. Man, his roommate had, like 355 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 5: he's got to sort through some sea shoes. I was 356 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 5: frying chicken and offered the first slash best pieces out 357 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 5: of the oil to them. 358 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: Straight out the oil, straight out oil. Come on. 359 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 5: I changed the oil to my own car. I used 360 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 5: a smoker in the backyard to make brisket. 361 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: This guy just doesn't like your existence, Like, I don't. 362 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: Think you do have a good roommate relationship because you're 363 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: just talking about you're like cooking. 364 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 5: This guy's just seething with hatred for you. Does not 365 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 5: like you. All you're doing is changing the oil to 366 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 5: your car, making brisket. 367 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: I honestly think that this girlfriend is like, oh my god, 368 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: your reommate so nice, Like, oh my god, it's so 369 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: cool that your roomate can cook. And yeah, always changing 370 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 4: the oil himself. That's so like cool of him. 371 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's so industrious. 372 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: I hate Joe. 373 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 7: I hate that guy. 374 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: I wish I could change the oil to my car. 375 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 5: I grill and I smoke in the backyard and needed 376 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 5: a piece of wood cut in a certain way to 377 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 5: hold something up. A cut and I nailed some wood 378 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 5: together in the garage. Feels like I can't even exist 379 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 5: while she's here. I tend to see the good and 380 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 5: the best in people, so I was not seeing him 381 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 5: as being very insecure and. 382 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 2: Was trying to look at this in a more positive light. 383 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 5: But he just texted me and said that I greet 384 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 5: his girlfriend in too kind of a way, and it's 385 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 5: annoying that I say be safe when she leaves the house. 386 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 5: I say this to him and everyone when they tell 387 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 5: me they are going somewhere. He sent me a long 388 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: text detailing that it's bad that I look her in 389 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 5: the eyes when she's. 390 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: Talking to me. 391 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: Maybe it's time I find a new roommate, I think. 392 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 5: So. Yeah, there is an update after this, but let's 393 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 5: let's kind of discuss here. 394 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 4: I mean, it's obvious that this man is just seething 395 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 4: with jealousy about Opie. Probably the girlfriend is like, oh, 396 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 4: your roommate seems really nice. 397 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 2: He's just losing it. 398 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: Like he's got a book. 399 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 5: He's got like a like a manifesto book, like up 400 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: in his room, or he's just like writing Opie's name, 401 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 5: like over and over again. 402 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: Book just like scribbling. 403 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 2: He's like, why can't I be like this guy? 404 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: What's so good about this guy? 405 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: Elpie's just living his life. If you can get a 406 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: new roommate. 407 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 5: Definitely do I would suggest doing it before this guy 408 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 5: goes completely off the rails, off the deep end. Actually, 409 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 5: you know what, Op, you're actually just a monster for 410 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 5: cooking fried chicken? How dare you and offering the best pieces? 411 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: Who do you that you are? 412 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: What do you want us to think? You're saying? 413 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: What kind of world is this? 414 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 2: We know who you are. Here's the update. 415 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 5: My account was suspended due to some kind of Reddit error, 416 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 5: probably because I made a new throwaway and received a 417 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 5: lot of attention. I messaged Reddit and the issue was 418 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 5: quickly resolved, So that's why the last post was removed. 419 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 5: But it's back now. I'm not sure what the rules 420 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 5: on updates are here. Thanks for all that very important information. 421 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 5: A lot of people wanted an update, and I wanted 422 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 5: to see my roommate in a more positive light. 423 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 2: I don't think there is a more positive Yeah, this 424 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: guy's so nice. He's like, even though. 425 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 4: You don't have to bash my roommate. 426 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody's telling you that this guy is like certifiable, 427 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 5: certifiable bad news and you're just like, no. 428 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: Really, I feel like he could be good. 429 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 5: I tend to try to see the best in people, 430 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 5: but reading the replies and his recent actions have opened 431 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 5: my eyes. 432 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: There we go. 433 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: Took him too seriously because he's a pretty harmless little 434 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: guy in my perspective. 435 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 5: Oh my god, Now now he read this, he's definitely 436 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 5: gonna hate you. 437 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: Now. 438 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 5: There's a big difference in how he lashes out at 439 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 5: me compared to his girlfriend. 440 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: He's gotten big and tough with me in. 441 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 5: Text format, but only mildly upset when I see him 442 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: in person. Yet, because he's a coward, yeah, he's got 443 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 5: Twitter fingers, not trigger fingers. I have taken a step 444 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 5: back and looked at anything I could have done to 445 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 5: provoke him, not excusing his behavior. And while I don't 446 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 5: believe I am in the wrong for being hospitable and 447 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 5: hosting a guest, if a seventy five year old man 448 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 5: was staying with us, I would treat him the same 449 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 5: way I've been treating his girlfriend. I do realize that 450 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 5: he is not from the South. I was told by 451 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 5: others in school that women outside of the South don't 452 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 5: enjoy being called ma'am. However, I've never seen a lady 453 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 5: get angry if I did call her ma'am up here, 454 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 5: I call woman of all ages, deer or darling, and 455 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 5: I could see how that could be seen as flirtatious, 456 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 5: even though it's just a part of how I speak. 457 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 5: Now that he knows I've seen him in his true form, 458 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 5: he doesn't even try to act the way he did before. 459 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 5: I sent his girlfriend's screenshots of the text he's sent 460 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 5: and told her the things that he said. 461 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: Oh, now you pushed. 462 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 4: Him to the point. Now he's like he's messy. 463 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: Now. 464 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 5: He said, Hey, darling, I just want to let you 465 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 5: know that this is what your man's been sending me 466 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 5: on here. 467 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: Well, you better watch it out. 468 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: I just wanted to make sure that you knew the 469 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: kind of man that you were dating. 470 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: I don't mean to start nothing. 471 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: I didn't want to start other ear but but. 472 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: He started first, and I'm not afraid to finish it. 473 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like you just deserve to know the truth, darling. 474 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 5: I'm not sure if she is leaving or staying, but 475 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 5: I've let her know and told her to let me 476 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 5: know if she needs any help. I don't plan on 477 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 5: moving anytime soon as I enjoy having room for a 478 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 5: grill and. 479 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: A smoker and a garage. 480 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 5: He told me he's looking for new place to live 481 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 5: and will potentially go back to his parents. I make 482 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 5: enough working at a restaurant to afford the rent alone, 483 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 5: but I would like more going into savings. But I'm 484 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 5: not worried financially for the time being. For the time being, 485 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 5: you can always join us live on YouTube at three 486 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 5: pm PST. 487 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: Just tap part profile. 488 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 4: I think it's all working out. That seems like oh 489 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: P is breaking up the relationship yep, and that remain 490 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 4: is moving out. 491 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 5: So you know, I am flattered and overwhelmed by all 492 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 5: the positive replies. About one hundred of you told me 493 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 5: to thank my mom, so I sure will. I grew 494 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 5: up working in hospitality with my mom and siblings. My 495 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 5: dad is the one that instilled respect into me. He 496 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: never felt emasculated, even when my mom's business ended up 497 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 5: making more than he does. They just saved their money 498 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 5: from all their jobs and they go on vacation a lot. Yeah, 499 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 5: that sounds like the dream right there. 500 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 4: You got you come from a great family. You're a 501 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 4: great guys. 502 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 5: Learn how to learn respect, learned hospitality Thank you mom 503 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 5: and dad for raising a good one. Thank you for 504 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 5: all the kindness and offers for the adoption slash jobs 505 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 5: slash relationships slash friendships. 506 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: Wow, Reddit was really supporting this guy through him. 507 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like, please marry me. 508 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 5: A lot of people wanted chicken and gumbo recipes too 509 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 5: much to type out, But I use curry potter and 510 00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 5: a lot of things to give it some good flavor. 511 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 5: That's how my mom does it. White pepper is essential 512 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 5: for that good, good fried chicken flavor. And that is 513 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 5: the end of that story. That's so just a little 514 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 5: tip right there, right from the source. You gotta get 515 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 5: white pepper for that fried chicken taste. 516 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 4: I refuse to adjust for my roommate's boyfriend's allergies. 517 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: He doesn't even live here, he doesn't even go here. 518 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: I twenty four female, have been living with my roommate 519 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 4: Laila twenty five female for about ten months. We have 520 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 4: a two year lease, so I really want to fix 521 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 4: this so we're not miserable for the next year. And 522 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 4: to start I need to see if I'm in the wrong. 523 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from expert Potatoes seven four 524 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 4: four seven on the r slash okay, storytime subredd it. 525 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 4: Leila started dating Kyle about six months ago. Kyle has 526 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: severe food allergies to shellfish, nuts, and soy, as well 527 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 4: as a lot of mild moderate allergies. I use nuts 528 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 4: and soy a lot in my cooking and some occasional shrimp. 529 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: At first, Laila would tell me that Kyle was coming over, 530 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 4: and I would just adjust whatever I was planning on 531 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 4: making if it was something that we be aerosolized, mostly nuts, 532 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 4: and this was fine. He's never had any reactions at 533 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: our apartment from my food, but it's slowly escalated, and 534 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 4: now they want me to not keep any ingredient in 535 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 4: the apartment that could cause him ana fleaxus, even if 536 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 4: I'm not actively eating or cooking it while he's over. 537 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: That's back up. 538 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 5: He doesn't live there, he doesn't even live there. 539 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: It is a respect thing for ope to not cook 540 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 4: it while he's there. 541 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's. 542 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: Just considerate, because you know, I wouldn't want to do 543 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: that if someone was coming over it was allergic. But 544 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 4: you can't say you can never have it in the house. 545 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: You've been dating for six months too, It's not like 546 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: you've been. 547 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: Together for three years. 548 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 2: And you're getting married, and this is the house you're 549 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: gonna live in. 550 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 4: I've refused, and they both pushed back a lot on it, 551 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: and I snapped a little and told him I don't give. 552 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: A f about his allar jump boom. 553 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 4: I can accommodate him to an extent, but I don't 554 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 4: care if the contents of my cabinet make him uncomfortable. 555 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 4: He doesn't need to be near my things at all. 556 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: They're being very dramatic and insisting I'm gonna unlive him 557 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 4: with my selfish by having closed jars of nuts in 558 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 4: the kitchen I pay to use. But I'm not gonna 559 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: have my diet restricted by someone who doesn't even live here. 560 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 4: Leila isn't speaking to me at all right now, and 561 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 4: I feel a little bad now because I do understand 562 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 4: how serious allergies are. But I also think they're over 563 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 4: extending boundaries by telling me what I can or can't 564 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 4: eat when he's not even here. And there are some 565 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 4: comments and an updates. 566 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: Yeah you should. 567 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 5: You should tell them, like all this stuff that you 568 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 5: don't want them to eat too. 569 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: Yeah you're like, okay, well you can't eat that because 570 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: I don't like the smell of it, yeah, and then 571 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 4: me that they'll be like, you're not even allergic to it, 572 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 4: and it's like it's not about that, it's about respect. 573 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: It'd be different if he lived there, it would be differ, 574 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 5: and it depends on I guess how severe his allergy 575 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 5: really is. 576 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 4: But it's like, well, he's never had a I mean, 577 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 4: obviously you don't want him to ever have a reaction, 578 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 4: but so far he hasn't, and so it seems like 579 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 4: whatever you're doing right now is working. 580 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 5: And it's like, honestly, if you really are that afraid 581 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 5: keep the EpiPen on you when you come over, it's 582 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 5: like it's your decision to be hanging out in this 583 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 5: place that you now considered to be like a biohazard 584 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 5: for you. 585 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 4: Like, it also would be different if Op was it 586 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 4: out Willy's over and cooking it, leaving it on the 587 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 4: leaving peanut butter on the counters or whatever, which is 588 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 4: just like. 589 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: Stir frying shrimp right in his face, Like. 590 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: Don't you does this smell good? 591 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be totally different. But this is like 592 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: it's literally Op cooking when he's not there in her 593 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 4: own home and the ingredients are stored in the cabinets 594 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 4: that he's not, you know, supposed to be looking in anyway. 595 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 5: So she should she should be like, if you guys 596 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 5: want to buy my groceries, yeah, I'll do it if you. 597 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 5: If you buy all my groceries for me, I'll cook 598 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 5: whatever you want. I'll stop eating whatever. But as long 599 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 5: as I'm buying my own food, I'm gonna go ahead 600 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 5: and make whatever I. 601 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 4: Want, to make whatever I want. But there are some 602 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: comments Champagne for my real fr says, not the a hole. 603 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 4: This is crazy. He doesn't even live there. If someone 604 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 4: has a severe allergy, it is their responsibility to manage that, 605 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 4: not yours. A grocery store won't hide all their peanuts 606 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 4: when he walks in the door. I don't know why 607 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 4: they think you should have to change anything. The fact 608 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 4: that you would change your cooking is beyond nice in 609 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: my opinion. Usually people with sensitivities bring their own food 610 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 4: containers whatever they need to make it safe for them. 611 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: And a live inkle says, does Kyle make anyone he 612 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: visits get rid of all the same foods? Point being 613 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 4: he is a visitor, he's not on the least paying 614 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 4: the bill he gets. No, say they can go hang 615 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 4: out at his place exactly. If they're so worried, they 616 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 4: can go hang out of his place. And there is 617 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 4: an update. I sat down with Laila a few days 618 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 4: after my initial post and really talked with her about 619 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: why I felt her and Kyle's request was unacceptable, and 620 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: I laid out my biggest concerns. I eat mostly plants, 621 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 4: so nuts and soy are like fifty percent of my protein, 622 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 4: which is what I was thinking. I assume she was 623 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 4: maybe pescatarian. Yeah, so my grocery bill would increase because 624 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 4: I'd have to make it up in animal products. Who's 625 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 4: going to pay for that? I'm not vegetarian, but I 626 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: don't really want to eat like that, and I definitely 627 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: don't want to pay for it. So would they make 628 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 4: up that increase? 629 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 2: You want to buy my groceries than anything's on the table. 630 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 4: I'm buying tofu right now, But if you want to 631 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 4: spend twenty bucks on meat, sure go for it. I 632 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 4: honestly didn't trust them to stop there. I already did 633 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: what I felt was reasonable commodation and it wasn't enough. 634 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: So how long till they take coconut eggs and tomatoes 635 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 4: from me? 636 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 6: Too? 637 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 4: It was weird a aff to ask me in the 638 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 4: first place, and I felt really disrespected because this is 639 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 4: my home and I don't take second place to a guest. 640 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: I can to her personally, of course, but that doesn't 641 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 4: extend to the apartment. I said I would agree to 642 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 4: continue not using his serious allergens when he was present 643 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 4: or soon to be, and that was the line, which 644 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 4: I think is fair. 645 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 5: It's like, of course, OP doesn't want to send your 646 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 5: boyfriend to the hospital, but like, come on. 647 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: You gotta be reasonable here. It didn't go over well 648 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 4: at all, and Leila told me I was overreacting. Oh, 649 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 4: pee's overreacting. 650 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 5: Who is this girl to like be the arbiter of 651 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 5: like all People's like, yes, you're overreacting, not me, you crazy, 652 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 5: I'm allowed to say that, and kept. 653 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: Talking over me when I tried to say that I 654 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 4: wouldn't do it. Eventually, she slipped up with the well, 655 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 4: what if he moved in? And I said absolutely not 656 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 4: and ended the conversation with her for the night. Yeah, 657 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 4: which is also a crazy thing to ask. You can't 658 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 4: just move your boyfriend in after six months when he's 659 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: not on the lease. That's not how it works. 660 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 5: That especially Yeah, you gotta that's approved. I mean, sure, 661 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 5: you can move him in, like even though he's not 662 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 5: on the lease, but everyone in the house has to approve. 663 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: Everyone on the lease. 664 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 4: Needs to approve. It's happened, and it's not fun. 665 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 5: And also, moving in with your boyfriend un for six 666 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 5: months is probably not a great idea. 667 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 4: We argued in circles about it for nearly two weeks, 668 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 4: and once it was out, she didn't drop it. I 669 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 4: realized it wasn't going to get better, so I did 670 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 4: what I didn't want to do and told her that 671 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 4: I was going to the landlord about breaking my part 672 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 4: of the lease, and she freaked out. Wow. I don't 673 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 4: know where Kyle's money goes, but apparently he doesn't have anything, 674 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 4: because she was yelling about not being able to afford 675 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 4: it on her own, and he couldn't help even if 676 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: he moved in, so he was just gonna freeload if 677 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 4: he lived in. 678 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 5: Wait, you're like my freeloader boyfriend who can't be exposed 679 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 5: to nuts or shell fish. 680 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: She's moving in any but. 681 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: You can't buy it anymore. 682 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 4: I told her that this had gone way too far 683 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: and I didn't think I could be happy living here 684 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 4: with her anymore. If it were easier for her to 685 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 4: leave instead, that would be fine too. She was really upset, 686 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 4: and I said I wouldn't force her out or leave 687 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: her suddenly on the lease alone, but it was one 688 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 4: or the other. Eventually she accepted and decided she would 689 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 4: move back in with her dad. That was the end 690 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: of April. She's fully moved out as of this week. Great, 691 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: you know, works for you. But exactly what hope you 692 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 4: didn't want to happen. 693 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: Had to app Yeah, but it sounds yeah, exactly, it 694 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: sounds like it had to. 695 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 4: It did. There was no other I mean, she was 696 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 4: putting all these insane rules on you and not listening 697 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 4: to you, so there really is no other solution there. 698 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, just kind of feels a little self absorbed. 699 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know it's not self absorbed when you 700 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 4: guys join us live every weekday at three PMPSD. Just 701 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 4: tap her profile. 702 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: That's right. 703 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: My childhood best friend Ali has been flip flopping on 704 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: moving to my city forever now, and me calling and 705 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 4: saying I had a cheap, open bedroom if she came 706 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 4: right away got her to finally pull the trigger on it. 707 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 5: Boom. 708 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 4: We love that. 709 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're good job, go Alli. 710 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: And it helped layl out because she didn't have to 711 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 4: pay to break the lease since I agreed to cover 712 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 4: the full rent at my own risk. Ali has stuff 713 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: to tie up in our home state still, but she's 714 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: already sent me half of July's frent. I just got 715 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 4: a squeeze for a little while, but I'll make it. 716 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 4: I'm super excited to see her and show her around. 717 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 4: Plus we've been cooking together since fourth grade, so that'll 718 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: be a nice change. Yellow Well, they could finally cook 719 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 4: third peanut butter shrimp. 720 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. I imagine she shows up and she's like, so, 721 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 5: here's the restrictions. Yeah, she shows up and has the 722 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 5: same restrictions as Kyles. 723 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 4: And I can get a cat's congrats. Oh yeah, it's 724 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 4: been a bit of a rough couple of months, but 725 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 4: I'm very happy with how things are looking right now. 726 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: So I just wanted to share with you guys. And 727 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 4: that is the end of this story. You got rid 728 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: of your bad roommate and you replaced it with your 729 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 4: friend who's cool. 730 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, and you can cook together with your friend who's 731 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 5: cool and can cook and is not you know, at 732 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 5: the work of imminent hospitalization if you may smell a 733 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 5: shrimp apparently. 734 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think OP is the a hole in 735 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 4: any stretch of the imagination. 736 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: Hey, it's John here. We're gonna get back to this episode. 737 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: But a quick three minute break with aswer more sponsors. 738 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 4: My friend ruined my vacation and cost me five hundred dollars. 739 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 4: I'm cutting him off. 740 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Cut him off right now. 741 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 4: I twenty four mail and my friend twenty four mail 742 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 4: met about thirteen years ago at school. There were times 743 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 4: that we fell out of contact, but whenever we saw 744 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: each other again, it was like no time had passed 745 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 4: at all. We were tight. Even though some unrelated stuff 746 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 4: happened between us last year that is still challenging for 747 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 4: me to deal with. I consider him my closest friend, 748 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 4: and I'm pretty sure he reciprocates. You should find out 749 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 4: by the way. This comes from scaly reptile thing on 750 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 4: the r slashokey storytime suburd it. So recently I took 751 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: him on a vacation with me. I don't make a 752 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: lot of money and I'm reluctant to take time away 753 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: from work, so I haven't taken a real vacation in 754 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: a couple of years. I planned on visiting two places, 755 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: and I took him with me to the first one. 756 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 4: The second time was in a remote location where I 757 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 4: planned to spend time in nature, hiking, reading, and writing. 758 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: To be honest with you, that's the part of my 759 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 4: vacation I looked forward to the most. I had a 760 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 4: beautiful cabin booked right on the water. The cat was 761 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 4: about five hundred dollars, which is relevant later how long 762 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 4: was op there for? Because that's pretty good right on 763 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 4: the water with a little cabins. 764 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 6: Get a little romantic, it's pretty nice. Yeah, I would 765 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 6: love that my friend did that. 766 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 4: I was like, hey, thank you. My friend. Derek also 767 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 4: doesn't have a lot of money. I've always taken a 768 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 4: lot of joy from being generous with what I have, 769 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 4: so I had no problem paying for our lodging and 770 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 4: travel expenses. A couple of months in advance of the trip, 771 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 4: I asked him to please bring money for his own 772 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: food and souvenirs. That was all I asked him. I 773 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 4: mentioned it again maybe a month before the trip. Both 774 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: times Derek agreed. I'm getting the feeling that maybe. 775 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 6: I think doesn't through just you had one gole feed yourself. 776 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: Derek come on feed us. When the time for the 777 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: trip came, we got on the road and headed out. 778 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 4: Everything was fine until the next morning. At breakfast. I 779 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 4: had packed some food so that we could save money 780 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 4: not dining out literally every meal. Derek said he didn't 781 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: want to eat what I had brought because of how 782 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 4: it was packaged. 783 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: What the packaging is, what's chanclastic? 784 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: This is not good to a box. 785 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 4: I found us a place to eat, and when we 786 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 4: get there, surprise, he has no money. I mean, not 787 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 4: one singular dollar. I was irked. I was operating on 788 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 4: a really strict budget for this trip, really tight. I 789 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: had the money to enjoy myself, but not any excesses. Well, 790 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 4: now my own budget was shrinking significantly because Derek didn't 791 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 4: do the one thing I asked him to do, pay 792 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 4: for his own food for two days, and wouldn't eat 793 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 4: what I already had with me. But I moved on 794 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 4: quickly because I knew the experiences would be better in 795 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 4: the long term than the things I could buy with money. 796 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: After breakfast, we went to one of the events that 797 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 4: drew us to the area in the first place. There 798 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 4: were a lot of food item vendors. I just wanted 799 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 4: a T shirt and a funnel cake. Lol. I wound 800 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 4: up getting both of these, and I also got a 801 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 4: shirt for Derek. You're too nice to Derek. Stop. 802 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: Derek is like, to deserve it financial stuff? What of it? 803 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: What of it? 804 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 4: Well, he just pays for me, It's fine. At the event, 805 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 4: some things strange happened. Derek is usually pretty resistant to 806 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 4: me spending money on him, but at the events he 807 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: stopped at multiple different food vendors and persuaded me to 808 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 4: buy things for him. 809 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: What does Derek want? Does he want you to spend 810 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: money on him or doesn't want you? 811 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, don't spend money on me, but like, 812 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 4: I really like that shirt. 813 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: You're financially abusing me. 814 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 4: A couple of times I tried to say no because 815 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 4: I obviously hadn't budgeted to buy Derek a bunch of 816 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 4: fair food. And each time this happened, he got a 817 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 4: really weird attitude with me. I mean, there was immediate tension. 818 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 4: It was really strange and uncomfortable. For example, at one point, 819 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 4: after I had already brought him food and drinks a 820 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 4: couple of times, we finally stopped so I could get 821 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 4: my funnel cake. 822 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: That's all all about the fuckle cake. 823 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 4: While we were in line, he noticed that they sold 824 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 4: lemon shakeups and asked for one. They were eight dollars. 825 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 4: Damn fair food is always. 826 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: So expensive, yeah, which was so good, Yeah, so worth it. 827 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 4: Which was literally more than my funnel cake. I said 828 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 4: it was too expensive and said I could get him 829 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 4: a water bottle instead. Suddenly he got passive aggressive with me. 830 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 4: He refused the water and abruptly quit talking to me, 831 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 4: then left the line to go stand away from me. 832 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 4: I started to feel guilty almost immediately. I mean, it 833 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 4: was our vacation, right, not just mine. By the time 834 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 4: I got to the front of the line, I was 835 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: convinced that I'd been selfish, and I was really desperate 836 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 4: to make peace, so I bought the stupid eight dollar drink. 837 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 4: Suddenly everything was fine again. 838 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: What are we twelve? 839 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 4: I was about to say. I was like, OPI, he's 840 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 4: treating this like his friend is a child and who's 841 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 4: having a trip. Except he's not actually parenting his friend. 842 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: He's just friending his friend. 843 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 4: He's just like giving in to all of the temper tantrum. 844 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 6: The fact that Opie is just like, oh, it's my fault, 845 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 6: like it's not your fault. 846 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: It's not your fault. First, you planned a great trip. 847 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 1: You pay for the great trip. 848 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 6: He gave his own eight dollars drink, and Derek is 849 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 6: just not It doesn't seem like he's into it at all. 850 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 4: He doesn't, He's just throwing tantrums. And I think, Ope. 851 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 4: My advice is that Ope learns some gentle parenting. And 852 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 4: it's like, you already had a treat today, you can't 853 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 4: have another. 854 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: One, and then no, I want it's good? 855 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,919 Speaker 4: What now? Now? Yeah, I'm just. 856 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: Don't give out and don't talk to you for the 857 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 2: rest of the trip, because drink. 858 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 4: You have to show Derek who's boss. That's the only way. 859 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 860 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 4: This kept happening, like repeatedly every time over the couple 861 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 4: of days we were traveling together. I'd remind him that 862 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 4: there was food I'd already paid for in the hotel room. 863 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 4: Derek would reply that he didn't like what I'd bought 864 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 4: for him and that he didn't want another jam sandwich. 865 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 4: It would get tense. I'd start to feel guilty and 866 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 4: afraid that he was angry with me, and I'd cave. 867 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 6: It sounds like a rinse repeat recycled. Yes, that is 868 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 6: not a friendship you want nah drop him. 869 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 4: I went over budget on day two of our trip, 870 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 4: not just my food budget either. Now I was eating 871 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 4: into my gas money for the second part of my trip. 872 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 4: I realized that I was going to have to cancel 873 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 4: my cabin on the water. I couldn't afford to drive 874 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 4: there anymore. I spent the last half of our time 875 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 4: together thinking about it, and slowly started to feel upset 876 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 4: about it, especially when I noticed some other behaviors from 877 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 4: Derek that I thought were really inconsiderate. Even though I 878 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 4: still managed to enjoy the trip, by the time we 879 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 4: started driving home, I was angry again. I couldn't even 880 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 4: talk to him. We both just listened to music the 881 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 4: whole ride home. Then three days later we exchanged a 882 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 4: couple of messages. We haven't spoken at all since then. 883 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 4: That's really unusual for us, because typically we message every day, 884 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 4: multiple times a day. Here's the thing that really is 885 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 4: bothering me about the situation. I had to cancel the 886 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 4: second part of my trip, the part that was really mine. 887 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 4: Not only that, though, but I lost a lot of 888 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 4: money on it. Why well, if I'd canceled two days 889 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 4: before I originally left with Derek, I would have gotten 890 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 4: a full refund, but at that point I believed in 891 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 4: good faith that Derek would make good on his promise 892 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 4: and bring his own food money, so I had literally 893 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 4: no reason to cancel. By the time Derek told me 894 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 4: he didn't have any money, the deadline had passed, and 895 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 4: when I canceled, I only got one hundred and eighty 896 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 4: dollars of the original five hundred dollars. I did the 897 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 4: math between the food expenses for Derek. It was festival 898 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 4: food and very expensive, and the money I lost because 899 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 4: of the late cancelation, I lost a little less than 900 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 4: five but underd dollars and six days of vacation. At first, 901 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 4: I was mad at Derek, but I felt all of 902 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 4: the blame was on me. I should have been less 903 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 4: of a pushover and told him to sit up. We 904 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 4: called it, yeah, yeah, but again it's obviously Dereks, but 905 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 4: you're being an a hole teers. 906 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 6: This was kind of like a you know, like a 907 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 6: little pillar thing like it fell and knocked and knocked 908 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 6: and knocked and then again just. 909 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 4: Domino's came back to you, all around to you. He 910 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 4: promised to bring money and he was going to have 911 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 4: to live on tuna and jam sandwiches, or maybe I 912 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 4: should have gone to the dollar store and bought him 913 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 4: some cup noodles instead. I kept telling myself that it 914 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 4: was our vacation and that Derek deserved to enjoy it too. 915 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 4: Every time I tried to save money, I felt so 916 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 4: guilty that I gave in and bought whatever he was 917 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 4: asking me for. If I didn't, that weird behavior would reappear, 918 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 4: and I'd realize if I didn't spend the money, it 919 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 4: would be tense and uncomfortable the whole trip. If I'd 920 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 4: grown a spine, maybe I could have saved my vacation, 921 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 4: but I didn't. Days after my trip was over, though, 922 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 4: I started to feel differently. Derek and I keep in 923 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 4: touch on Snapchat. If you're not familiar, your location is 924 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 4: visible there unless you activate ghost mode. 925 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: I'm familiar. 926 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 4: I'm familiar. I had told him, before I realized I 927 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 4: was going out to cancel the trip, that i'd send 928 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 4: him lots of pictures and updates, so I kind of 929 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 4: figured that eventually he'd message asking about it, and then 930 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 4: he'd noticed that I was still in town and not 931 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 4: in the place I was supposed to be staying, but 932 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 4: he never did. 933 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 1: I think Derek just never cared. 934 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. In fact, since a random message he sent about 935 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 4: his job, he hasn't asked after me or messaged me 936 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 4: at all. I know it's immature of me not to 937 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 4: buck up and start the conversation myself, but to be honest, 938 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 4: I am not sure what to say. The more time 939 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 4: has passed, the more hurt I feel. I feel like 940 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 4: he was extremely inconsidered of my time and money. I 941 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 4: feel used, and I also feel kind of taken advantage 942 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 4: of because every time I tried to take control of 943 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 4: the situation, he reacted really negatively. He knows I'm a 944 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 4: people pleaser. I can't decide, yeah, you're a huge pleaser. 945 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 4: I can't decide if that was careless or manipulative, just 946 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 4: like I can't decide whether he forgot he was supposed 947 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 4: to bring money, or whether he spent all his money 948 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 4: on the weed he smoked the whole trip because he 949 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 4: knew I'd take care of him. 950 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 6: Oh, that's a little fun fact there day. So he 951 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 6: was spending the money that the substances for himself. 952 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,479 Speaker 4: I'm extremely bitter about it. I don't know what to say. 953 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 4: And I don't even know if the feelings I'm developing 954 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 4: are rational. What if it's an innocent mistake and the 955 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 4: only reason he hasn't apologized is because he's genuinely clueless. 956 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 4: And if that's the case, is that even a good 957 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 4: enough excuse for screwing me over so badly? Like that? 958 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 4: But we would never screw you over? If you join 959 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 4: us live every week dead three pm, just tap her profile. 960 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: Just tap it. 961 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 4: It's not an ultimate. 962 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: Unless screwed, then don't tap it. It's not our fault. 963 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 4: And there is a teeny bit left to this story. 964 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: But what do you think, Oh, he's gaslighting themselves. 965 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like, was it mine? 966 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't Should I just defend him? 967 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? 968 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: No, Maybe he's right. 969 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 4: Maybe our friendship is worth you know, paying for him. 970 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: I see nothing of this friendship that seems like a friendship. 971 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 4: But there is a little bit more to this story. 972 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 4: I want to make the disclaimer that I don't entirely 973 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 4: blame Derek. I know I'm an adult and I should 974 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 4: be able to stand up for myself already, especially with 975 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 4: my friends. I just can't shake the feeling that he 976 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 4: really did me wrong in this situation, and I need 977 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 4: to do something about it. You can't keep the feeling 978 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 4: because it's yes, that's right. 979 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 2: The fact that you keep bringing it up and you're like, oh, 980 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 2: it's not. 981 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 4: I don't know. The thing is that, like, yeah, it 982 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 4: is all Derek's fault, and it is also your fault, 983 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 4: Like it's it's it's two things. I don't know how to, 984 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 4: Like there's a bubble and there's also another bubble effect. 985 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's your fault in Derek's fault. 986 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, equally, I'm really desperate for advice. To be 987 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 4: honest with you, because at this point, I feel like 988 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 4: I'm on the cusp of losing my oldest friendship. I 989 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 4: don't even know if that's a bad thing, but my 990 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 4: judgment is so clouded by anger and confusion. I feel 991 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 4: like I can't trust myself. I just need to hear 992 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 4: from other people. What's your take on the situation? Am 993 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 4: I overthinking it so hard? Am I right to be angery? 994 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 4: Should I try to have a conversation or just let 995 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 4: it go and move on? What would I even say? 996 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 4: I'm totally at a loss. I've been thinking on it 997 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 4: for days and I can't parse out a solution on 998 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 4: my own Please advise me. Why's redditors? Yes, have a 999 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 4: conversation with them, like not that you should continue the friendships. 1000 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 2: You can get the money back. 1001 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: I get the money back. 1002 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 6: Where she's saying that you want to friends reconcile that 1003 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 6: friendship where. 1004 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: It's just all right. That was a bad hiccup. 1005 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 6: From here on out, been nice buddy, then ic if 1006 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 6: you pout one time, we're done. 1007 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 4: My friend totaled my car and now she's acting like 1008 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 4: nothing happened. On September twenty eighth, twenty twenty four, my 1009 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 4: friend Laila, at nineteen, had asked me to pick her 1010 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 4: up from work around eleven PM and to hang out 1011 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 4: at my house with other mutual friends. And Layla had 1012 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 4: started drinking from an Absolute vodka bottle, which I did 1013 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 4: not partake in, and she asked me if she can 1014 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 4: sleep over because her mom had given her a set 1015 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 4: curfew out around ten to eleven thirty PM and if 1016 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 4: she is not home at that time, she would have 1017 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 4: to find a place to sleep over. Wow, that's a tough, 1018 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 4: Like you can't come home if you're. 1019 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 7: Not when you're nineteen. 1020 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of interesting. Around one am, my other 1021 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 4: friends left my house and it was only me and Leila. 1022 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from beneficial Smile nine two 1023 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 4: to four on the r slash Okay storytime separate it. 1024 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 4: So when Layla sleeps over, she usually sleeps in the 1025 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 4: guest bedroom, and when I was getting ready for bed, 1026 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 4: she had asked me if I can come with her 1027 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 4: to get some substances like the soft drink, like a 1028 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 4: Coca Cola substance. She had wanted me to drive her 1029 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 4: to get some and I said no. This is not 1030 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 4: the first time she has asked me to do this, 1031 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 4: but this time I said no, I do not want to. 1032 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 4: Then she suggested giving the Coca Cola dealer my address 1033 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 4: to drop it off, and I said no as well, 1034 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 4: she wanted. 1035 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 2: To get a dealer. 1036 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 7: You're a dress especially if you're not into that, Like, 1037 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 7: come on, I'm. 1038 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 4: Just in general, I feel like, don't give dealers your address. 1039 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 7: Fair clearly, I don't. I don't do a lot of 1040 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 7: work with them, you know, I don't. 1041 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 4: I mean I don't know. Maybe people giving their addresses up. 1042 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 4: I don't know. Later on that night, at three h 1043 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 4: nine am, she had asked to get what a burger, 1044 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 4: and my phone had been on do not deserve, and 1045 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 4: she had kept notifying the messages anyway, what is why 1046 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 4: is she does she never sleep? 1047 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 3: No? 1048 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 7: Because she has the Yeah. 1049 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 4: For thirty minutes, she just kept insisting let's go to 1050 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 4: what a Burger. And at that point I had texted 1051 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 4: her back asking her what she wanted, and she just 1052 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,439 Speaker 4: kept insisting. When I was showing her I was disinterested 1053 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 4: on the thought of going to Whataburger. After that, she 1054 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 4: knocked on my door and I did not answer. Then 1055 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 4: she texted me again. So at that point I just 1056 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 4: let her borrow my car just so she would leave 1057 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 4: me alone. 1058 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 7: No, no, no, no, my parents are the car. 1059 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,240 Speaker 4: Don't let anyone drive your car most because my insurance 1060 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 4: doesn't allow it. 1061 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 7: Oh my god, oh yeah, even though like, look, I 1062 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 7: get when you have a craving, I get it, I 1063 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 7: get so badly. 1064 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 4: But no, walk, I don't know. At this point, it 1065 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 4: was four am in the morning. She had left around 1066 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 4: four h three am, and I went back to sleep. 1067 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,919 Speaker 4: After that, around four forty three, I heard a very 1068 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 4: loud noise and it sounded like a car crash and 1069 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 4: I knew at that moment it was Leila and my car. 1070 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 4: I rushed out of the house, and I texted her 1071 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 4: and she called me saying that she had crashed my car. 1072 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 7: That is awful, terrible news. 1073 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 4: Her explanation was that she was turning into my section 1074 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 4: and a car ignored a stop sign from the other 1075 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 4: side of the road, and she panicked and she hit 1076 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 4: a parked car on the side of the street. 1077 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, you panicked because you're under. 1078 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 4: The Coca Cola. I do not believe there was a 1079 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 4: third car involved. She was speeding so fast she had 1080 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 4: moved a stationary vehicle to their neighbor's front lawn, and 1081 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,839 Speaker 4: my total car was at least ten feet away from 1082 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 4: the other car. Yeah, there's no way that could have 1083 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 4: happened if she was actually just stop signay. 1084 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, and if you were just swerving. 1085 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. When I arrived at the scene, Layla was yelling 1086 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 4: at me and aggressively saying I'm sorry. It was either 1087 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 4: my life or your car, and proceeded to just yell 1088 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 4: at me saying she'll pay for it, And she got 1089 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 4: aggravated at me and became passive aggressive when I was 1090 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,760 Speaker 4: getting upset about my car. Why are we friends with Leila? 1091 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 7: I know? 1092 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 4: Does Leilah have any redeeming qualities? 1093 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 5: I know. 1094 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 7: It is a tough situation though, when you like need 1095 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 7: to kind of be sympathetic and compassionate during a car okay, right, 1096 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 7: But at the same time, like you missed her, you 1097 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 7: messed up. 1098 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 4: She proceeded to tell me to keep yelling at her 1099 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 4: and see what happens. So in the moment, I yelled, 1100 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 4: and she said come here in a threatening way like 1101 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 4: she wanted to fight, and I just walked away, and 1102 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 4: she just kept yelling at me that she'll leave and 1103 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 4: there's no problems. Then she just proceeded to keep yelling 1104 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 4: while me and the people that she hit were trying 1105 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 4: to figure out what to do, while calling insurance because 1106 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 4: she had told us that she doesn't have insurance. 1107 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 7: No, don't be driving around with that insurance, guys, why 1108 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 7: don't do it? 1109 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 4: I hate Leilah so much. The police and my boyfriend 1110 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 4: came shortly after that and did the basic asking us 1111 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 4: if any one of us were injured, and she proceeded 1112 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 4: to make a joke and say, I have a little 1113 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 4: cut on my leg, but I'm from the South. I 1114 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 4: can handle it, which is off putting because this is 1115 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,720 Speaker 4: not a situation to be joking about. She had asked 1116 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 4: the police officer if they could take her home and 1117 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 4: get her stuff from my house, and later on she 1118 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 4: just starts crying to the police while the tow truck 1119 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 4: comes and we do the basic procedure and get my 1120 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 4: car out of there. She's exhausting, I know. And it's 1121 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 4: also four forty three am. 1122 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 7: That's the thing too, like we're just tired. 1123 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 4: While I was taking all of my belongings out of 1124 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 4: my car, one of the police officers escorted Leyla to 1125 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,399 Speaker 4: my house to grab her belongings, and my boyfriend had 1126 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 4: followed them and watched them, and from what my boyfriend 1127 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 4: has told me, they were joking around with each other 1128 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 4: and laughing, and the officer even assisted finding her bottle 1129 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 4: cap for and drove her home with it, knowing she 1130 00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 4: is only nineteen years old. No, no, the police officer 1131 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 4: and Layla were joking about her drinking while driving. 1132 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 7: That's meant that is met police officers clearly not very 1133 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:02,400 Speaker 7: good ones. 1134 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,800 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, did she bribe them. The other police 1135 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 4: officer came up to me and told me they were 1136 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,800 Speaker 4: only giving her a warning for speeding. What bad police officers? 1137 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 7: What? 1138 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 4: They took her home and I had texted her that 1139 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,959 Speaker 4: me and my father needed to speak with her mother, 1140 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 4: and she replied with rude and denying replies, and then 1141 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 4: she brought up child to trauma and used it against me. 1142 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 4: I had stopped texting her after that. The next day, 1143 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 4: I had asked her when her mom was available to 1144 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 4: speak to me and my father to settle the coverage 1145 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 4: of my car, and she had said that her mother 1146 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 4: doesn't want to speak to anyone, and she had given 1147 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 4: me her number, and I texted her. Her mother took 1148 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 4: a day to reply to me, and she told me 1149 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 4: that she does not want to get involved with her 1150 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 4: adult child's business. 1151 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 7: Are you serious? Oh my goodness, I mean yeah, okay, 1152 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 7: technically you're nineteen, you are an adult. You can handle 1153 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 7: this time. 1154 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 4: Like she's clearly not going to And why is she 1155 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 4: not on any insurance? What's going on there? 1156 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 7: To be driving with no insurance is very dangerous? 1157 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,279 Speaker 3: Oh? 1158 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. So I texted Leila that since her mother does 1159 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 4: not want to get involved in this situation, I have 1160 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 4: to take her accountable directly and asked her when it 1161 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 4: is appropriate to discuss the coverage and the payments with 1162 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 4: my car, and she continued avoiding it. So I told her, 1163 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 4: I will have to take this into a legal matter 1164 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 4: since she does not want to handle this matter outside 1165 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 4: of court. By the way, you can handle this matter 1166 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 4: with us outside of court by joining us Live every 1167 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 4: Week Death through PMPST just to have our profile. Did 1168 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 4: what But there is a little bit more of the story. 1169 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 4: But what's your thoughts here? What if we do? What 1170 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 4: does OP do? Because I think I know what OP does? 1171 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 7: But I think you try your best to sort it 1172 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,280 Speaker 7: out just between the family, yes, and get your money 1173 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 7: back or put in a claim. I don't know what 1174 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 7: insurance would give you. I don't know, Oliver, right, And 1175 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 7: then don't talk to Laila, don't Layla's no long. 1176 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, Leila should not be your friend. She's a bad influence. 1177 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 4: She's a bad friend. 1178 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 7: And let's make smarter decisions and not let our friend. 1179 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,919 Speaker 7: First of all, I don't let almost anybody drive my car, same, 1180 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 7: I really don't. 1181 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 4: There are very few circumstances where I let people drive 1182 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 4: my car. 1183 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 7: Right, So that's one. And if you are going to 1184 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 7: have someone drive your car, make sure they're sober and 1185 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 7: make sure they have insurance and have insurance that too, 1186 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 7: and like, won't crash your. 1187 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,280 Speaker 4: Car, but there is a little bit left of the story. 1188 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 4: Later on, I found out from someone that she did, 1189 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 4: in fact lie to me about where she was going 1190 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 4: to take my car and her intentions with my car. 1191 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 4: She did not go to water Burger, and I believe 1192 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 4: she had taken my car to make a substance deal. 1193 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 4: And I believe she had lied to me and told 1194 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 4: me she does not have insurance when she does, because 1195 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,320 Speaker 4: in the state of Texas, to obtain a driver's license, 1196 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 4: you would need a proof of insurance, either her famili's, 1197 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 4: her mother, or her own. I really want to out 1198 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 4: her on social media, lol, since I probably won't get 1199 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 4: my money back from her, because even if I file 1200 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 4: a small court claim, she's broke and won't have anything 1201 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 4: to give me, and she's just walking around like nothing 1202 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 4: has happened. 1203 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 5: Edit. 1204 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 4: I'm nineteen years old as well, and I'm basically on 1205 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 4: my own and that car is my only chance of 1206 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 4: true independence. That's how I will make my money and 1207 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 4: how I will get to school for a better chance 1208 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 4: in life. I don't know. I feel like you need 1209 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 4: to try and get some money back. 1210 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 7: From absolutely, try whatever you can. It talks too when 1211 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 7: like stuff like this, like legal action comes into play. 1212 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, when she should just be I mean, she should 1213 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,760 Speaker 4: have just won not total to her car, but she should Yeah. 1214 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 3: Hey, it's sam where to get back to these stories, 1215 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 3: But here's three minutes of AADs from our sponsors. 1216 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 7: My best friend always hated me because I was better 1217 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 7: than her in every way. That makes sense. 1218 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's like, she's jealous of you because you're better 1219 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 4: than her in every way. 1220 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 7: Every way. Okay, so this is a bit of a doozy. 1221 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 7: My college best friend was in a lot of ways, 1222 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 7: exactly the kind of friend you'd want in college. We 1223 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 7: became close early in freshman year, lived together for two 1224 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 7: and a half years, where most of the same classes, 1225 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 7: and had a lot of shared interests, et cetera. By 1226 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 7: the way, this comes from she's a reader on the 1227 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 7: Okay storytime subreddit. So I was there for her through 1228 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 7: a tight nine issue our freshman year. She was there 1229 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 7: for me through a particularly nasty breakup. We visited each 1230 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 7: other's families, houses, over school breaks, et cetera. So they're 1231 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 7: really close. Towards the end of our senior year, there 1232 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 7: was a lot of tension between us that hadn't been 1233 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,839 Speaker 7: there before. I had a lot of achievements come through 1234 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 7: from work i'd been putting in all along. I was 1235 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 7: invited to join the school's top honor society. I was 1236 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,720 Speaker 7: named captain of my sports team. I got into grad school, 1237 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 7: I had a paper published. Okay, most of these, you 1238 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 7: go off. Most of these events involved receptions, parties, et cetera, 1239 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 7: as celebrations, and my boyfriend and I are long distance 1240 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 7: and the school wasn't allowing visitors because of COVID regulations, 1241 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 7: so I invited my best friend instead. And this was 1242 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 7: normal for us. We'd been each other's plus ones to 1243 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 7: department events, sports banquets, et cetera for all of college. 1244 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 7: Here's where things get messy. When I invited her to 1245 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 7: celebrate with me, she started shutting me down at every 1246 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 7: turn and yelling at me that I didn't need a 1247 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 7: brag all the time and I needed to stop constantly 1248 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 7: trying to one up everyone. 1249 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, she's very jealous, very jealous. You're talking 1250 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,760 Speaker 4: about it all the time. Yeah, and you're like, unless 1251 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 4: to go to my trophies. Yeah, yeah, then troph my trophies. 1252 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 4: But I think you're. 1253 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 7: Fine, right in my opinion, I wasn't bragging. I was 1254 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 7: inviting my best friend to celebrate good news with me. 1255 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 7: That is the worst one. A friend can't be happy 1256 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 7: for you and celebrate you and your achievements. That's not 1257 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 7: a good friend. She then began to invalidate every success, 1258 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 7: telling me that she'd have made captain two if she 1259 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 7: stayed on the team for all four years. She quit 1260 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 7: after two and a half years, whereas I stayed on 1261 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 7: mine and did leadership stuff, including assistant coaching while studying 1262 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 7: abroad and when we got sent home from campus because 1263 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,720 Speaker 7: of COVID. She said that she should have been invited 1264 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 7: to the honors program too because of how much stuff 1265 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 7: she took on. She had two majors, and by contrast, 1266 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 7: my GPA was point six points higher than hers, and 1267 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 7: I had three majors and I stayed on my team. 1268 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 4: Okay, sounds like we're bragging just a little bit, now, 1269 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 4: it does? 1270 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 7: Now it does? I have point six higher than her, 1271 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 7: says she was under a lot of stress that year 1272 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 7: due to not having planned out her courses and workload 1273 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 7: until the end of the year, and bit off a 1274 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 7: little more than she could chew, which I understand. I've 1275 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 7: been in that spot myself. I don't see myself as 1276 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:11,839 Speaker 7: better than her in any way. 1277 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, you do. 1278 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 7: I've had a lot of help and mentorship for my professors, 1279 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 7: and I've made some questionable decisions regarding my own physical health, 1280 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 7: i e. Prioritizing a paper over sleep or meals A 1281 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 7: few too many times. 1282 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 4: She's like, sometimes I go so hard at school that 1283 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,439 Speaker 4: I don't that I don't sleep. Yeah, I just had 1284 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 4: to get that one hundred percent on my test that 1285 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 4: I didn't sleep. 1286 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 7: I've kind of been there before, though. I remember nights 1287 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 7: in college where I just like had espresso at like 1288 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 7: two am and I just pulled all night. 1289 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 4: I never pulled an all niner. That was I made 1290 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 4: a deal with myself in college. I was like, I 1291 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 4: will never pull an all nighter to finish any or 1292 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 4: study for any assign. 1293 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:51,399 Speaker 7: Good for you. 1294 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 4: The latest I for school. I stayed up later for 1295 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 4: other things, but that. 1296 00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 7: Hard day that's good for you. Well clearly didn't do that. 1297 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 7: So I've been where she was, just not at such 1298 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 7: a crucial time career in school wise, I apologized to 1299 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,799 Speaker 7: her for making her feel like I was one upping her, 1300 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 7: or for not validating her concerns, stressors, anxieties. She wasn't wrong. 1301 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 7: I'd been wrapped up in my own little celebratory bubble. 1302 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,520 Speaker 7: I wasn't doing the best job of reading the room 1303 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 7: about how stressed she was. That said, it felt like 1304 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 7: she resented me for having worked hard and planned well 1305 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,520 Speaker 7: from day one. In the moment and in the week 1306 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 7: of conflict that followed, I felt unsupported and didn't like 1307 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 7: the feeling. So I asked for a step back and 1308 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,640 Speaker 7: a break. Ooh, I love that. I feel like it's 1309 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 7: rare that. Yeah, it's rare in friendships that I think 1310 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 7: were able to be like, hey, can we take a 1311 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:37,240 Speaker 7: little pause. 1312 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 4: Well, I think also, there's not like we don't really 1313 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 4: have that precedent set up, right with friends specifically see Yeah, 1314 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 4: and so I think a lot of times when we 1315 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 4: do say, you know, when people say hey, let's take 1316 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 4: a break, Yeah, let's stick a step back, that is 1317 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 4: received really negatively. 1318 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,840 Speaker 7: Mm hmm, right, like something so off. She cried, told 1319 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 7: me that I was still her best friend and that 1320 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 7: I needed to reevaluate my priorities in life. Didn't really 1321 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 7: have a right to be upset, and in the same conversation, 1322 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,000 Speaker 7: proceeded to bring up my previous traumas and throw them 1323 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 7: back in my face because she was upset with me. 1324 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 7: She's like, I have more trauma than you. That is 1325 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 7: messed up to use what somebody shared with you in 1326 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 7: the past. Oh my gosh. So she was upset with 1327 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 7: me saying that because I'm just hyper competitive and can't 1328 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 7: appreciate anyone else's struggles because of my previous admittedly kind 1329 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 7: of cutthroat school and the last relationship I'd been in. 1330 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 7: She stopped speaking to me Shortly before this. Multiple of 1331 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 7: my other friends had informed me that she'd been saying 1332 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 7: slightly derogatory things about me and my achievements all semester min. 1333 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 4: Why are we talking about our friends behind their bags? 1334 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,719 Speaker 7: That's the worst. Don't do that a good friend. I 1335 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 7: didn't mention that to her, but it was a factor 1336 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 7: in my deciding to speak up in the first place. 1337 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,839 Speaker 7: It's been almost a year of no contact whatsoever. I 1338 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 7: haven't felt comfortable reaching out, so it's been the equivalent 1339 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 7: of cutting her off entirely. I thought we were going like. 1340 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 4: A week or two now that's all. That's a breakoup 1341 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 4: from oh. 1342 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 7: Whoa, whoa, and a year of not talking to someone. 1343 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 7: You kind of realize whether you actually want them in 1344 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 7: your life. 1345 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 4: YEA were like, actually, maybe we're better off apart. 1346 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, but Opie says, I miss the friend that I had, 1347 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 7: but not the way that she treated me. Towards the 1348 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,920 Speaker 7: end of our last year of college. I suspect that 1349 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 7: she's got some mental health issues that need to be 1350 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 7: worked out. I regularly see a therapist who has helped 1351 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 7: me enormously, whereas this friend has laughed at the concept 1352 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 7: of medication and meditation and counseling, saying that she doesn't 1353 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 7: have time for that. I should mention Also, we had 1354 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 7: moved in with two other housemates for senior year, one 1355 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 7: of our mutual friends and one of my best friend's 1356 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 7: other friends who I wasn't close to. Almost immediately, she 1357 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 7: started hanging out with this other friend instead of me, 1358 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 7: sharing our inside jokes and friendship traditions with her, making 1359 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 7: plans with her instead of me, and frequently canceling on 1360 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 7: plans with me to hang out with her, or bringing 1361 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 7: her to our plans unannounced and uninvited, siding with her 1362 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 7: in every in house argument, et cetera. At one point, 1363 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 7: my best friend even shared my notes from a class 1364 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 7: we'd taken together with this new friend. Without permission back. 1365 00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 7: I felt like she had chosen this new friend over me, 1366 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 7: especially when I found out that this friend had been 1367 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 7: spreading rumors about me, and not only did my best 1368 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 7: friend not speak up, she also didn't tell me. I 1369 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 7: found out through our other friends, who shut that crap 1370 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 7: down the second they heard it. They're wonderful friends. I'm 1371 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 7: very thankful for them, and they've been there through all 1372 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:16,480 Speaker 7: of this mess. 1373 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been in that situation. Yeah, we're like, like, 1374 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 4: this girl was spreading rumors and like my friend, my 1375 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 4: friends didn't tell me unterrible later and I was like, 1376 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 4: why not. 1377 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,040 Speaker 7: Let's keep it real, guys, Let's keep it real. Lets 1378 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 7: be upfront. You guys can keep it real with us 1379 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 7: by joining us live on YouTube every weekday at three 1380 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 7: pm PST. Just tap our profile. And then this last 1381 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,880 Speaker 7: bit of this story, Opie says, I've been thinking a 1382 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 7: lot about the de evolution of this friendship. Perhaps I 1383 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 7: was hasty in cutting off the relationship, but I didn't 1384 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,400 Speaker 7: feel comfortable being that close to this person anymore, and 1385 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 7: I honestly still don't. But at the same time, am 1386 00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 7: I the a hole for cutting off someone who was 1387 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 7: my best friend in college? Especially with three and a 1388 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 7: half years of close friendship behind us. No, I don't 1389 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 7: think you're the a hole because I think life's too 1390 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 7: short to hold onto relationships that don't. 1391 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, whether or not you were blagging, I think 1392 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 4: the jury is still out on but I think that 1393 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 4: she was not a good friend. She was spreading rumors, 1394 00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 4: or she was at least aiding in a bedding in 1395 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 4: the rumor spreading