1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Garrett Downing 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: and I'm joined today by Clifton Brown. We are here 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting Combined. Things really kicked 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: off here today. We had a chance to hear from 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: general manager Eric DaCosta, head coach Jesse Mintter, as well 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: as several other gms and head coaches around the league. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: This is going to be the hub of the NFL 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: universe over the course of the next week. Workouts start 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: a little bit later in the week, but early on 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: in this week is really where we get a chance 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: to hear from the decision makers in the NFL about 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: their teams, what their focus is this offseason. And we 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: got some important news updates from both Tacosta and new 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: head coach Jesse Mintor today. So those full press conferences 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: are posted for you in their entirety on our app, 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: our website, our YouTube channel. You can also listen to 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: them in the Ravens Press Pass podcast feed that you 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: subscribe subscribe to as well. So, Cliff, let's just start here. 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: After hearing from Eric and Jesse, what was the big 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: thing that stood out your mind? 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of things, but obviously Tyler Linderbaum 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: is a subject that everyone came into the combine. Will 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: the Ravens be able to resign him? Eric de Costa 24 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: has made it clear that the Ravens want to resign 25 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: Tyler Linderenbaum. Tyler Linderbaum has made it clear that he 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: loves playing for the Ravens and would definitely like to 27 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: stay here. However, you know, contract has not been negotiated 28 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: yet and free agency is approaching, and he is going 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: to be a player who gets a lot of interest 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: if he hits free agency. Some consider him the number 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: one free agent on the market. So we don't really 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: know after today what's going to happen. But yes, that 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: to me is the thing that you know is most 34 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: on Ravens fans. Mind that, and obviously Lamar Jackson's contract, 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: which Eric you know, again wants to keep private, so 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. But uh, I think there's two 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: things going on that and then of course the players 38 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: who we want to be looking at this week. 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: Well let's just stick on Linderbaumb for a little bit 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: because that out to me, and da Costa shared some 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: news on that front in saying that the Ravens have 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: made him a market setting offer to make him the 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: highest paid center in the NFL, and that's indicative of 44 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: their feelings about wanting to keep him. And we've all 45 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: kind of said over the course of the last year, 46 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: as the there's been talk about trying to work out 47 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: an extension with him, that the framework is kind of there, 48 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: and that you know who the last highest paid center 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: was Cam Jurgen's for the Philadelphia Eagles, And so the 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: way these market deals work is that the next guy 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: up gets the biggest deal, and so that that would 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: be the expectation with Linderbomb and da Costa basically confirmed 53 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: that and saying they've made him a market setting deal. 54 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Now the question of course becomes how much how much 55 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: are you resetting the market and that's probably why no 56 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: deal has been struck at this point. They made an offer, 57 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: but it comes down to whether Linderbaum is going to 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: accept that. I came away after hearing from Tacosta, like 59 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: it's clear the Ravens wan they want to make him 60 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: a highest pied center. That's not exactly breaking news, but 61 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: they's only confirmed it, but it's not a guarantee and 62 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: Lindardbom has that offer on the table, but where it 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: goes from here it still remains to be seen. 64 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Right, and then if it gets to free agency, then 65 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: the market could change. Yeah, I mean it's a market 66 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: setting deal. Until someone else makes you a better offer 67 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: than that deal, it's a market setting these So Tyler 68 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: Lindenbaum's is going to have many options if he wants 69 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: to explore the free agent market. But the Ravens are 70 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 2: going to try and keep it. Are already in the process, 71 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: have been in the process of trying to keep it 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: for a long time. So it gets down to what 73 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: general managers often talk about, that you can't always keep 74 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: all the players you want. 75 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: So hopefully for. 76 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: The Ravens this will be a situation where they do 77 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: end up keeping Linderbaum. I remember last year with Ronnie Stanley, 78 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: a lot of people thought that Ronnie Stanley was going 79 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: to go elsewhere. He certainly could have gone elsewhere if 80 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: he had wanted to. But I think the fact that 81 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: the Ravens are our great organization that Tyler Linnerbaum wants 82 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: to play for, has enjoyed playing for works in the 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: Ravens favor. So will it be enough to keep him. 84 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: We won't know until either the deal has signed or 85 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: he goes elsewhere. But yes, that is something that right 86 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: now I think is the biggest you know, cloud hanging 87 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: over the Ravens that will either be sunshiny you know, 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: how it turns out. 89 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: The Ronnie example is a pretty good one going back 90 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: to last year, because that was the big topic, one 91 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: of the big topics coming out of the press conferences 92 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: here at the Combine last year, and we were talking 93 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: at that time is it going to happen? Is it not? 94 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: It seems like he might be headed for a free 95 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: agency and the Ravens ultimately ended up getting that deal 96 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: done right on the eve of free agency, before Ronnie 97 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: actually tested the market. Of course, the Ravens hope to 98 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: work out a similar situation with Linderbaum this year. And 99 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: sometimes the Combine can kind of be an inflection point 100 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: for teams things around the league in terms of moving 101 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: towards action, moving towards the deadline spur action. We see 102 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: that all the time around the NFL, and the Combine 103 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: can help accelerate that action, I think, And whether it's 104 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: meetings here, conversations that you have here, but I just 105 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: it's clear in hearing from the Ravens that they're trying 106 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: to find a way to keep Linderbaum and like that 107 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: that's a good starting point. Like the Ravens want to 108 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: make him a highest space center. 109 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: And he has. 110 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Indicated over the course of the last year when he's 111 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: been asked about it several times that he likes playing 112 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, would like to stay in Baltimore. So like, 113 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: you have a good foundation set there. But of course 114 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: the money is going to be a big deciding factor. 115 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: It is, And yes, I also think that it helps 116 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: not only Tyler loving the organization and his teammates, that 117 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: the Ravens still viewed themselves I think correctly so as 118 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: a Super Bowl contender. Yeah, and last year did not 119 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: go the way the Ravens planned, but still with Lamar 120 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: Jackson being the guy that Tyler Linderbaum's hiking the vault too, 121 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: with Derek Henry being the running back that he's blocking for, 122 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: I think that he feels if he were to stay 123 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: here that the Ravens could get back to being the 124 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: offensive team that they have been for most of his 125 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: career here one of the best in the NFL. So 126 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 2: all the pieces are in place to make Tyler Linnenbaum 127 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: think that the Ravens are an attractive place to stay. 128 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 2: The question is going to be yes, does he feel 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: that someone else makes him an offer that makes them. 130 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: More attractive to leave? 131 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: I think the Ravens do, even though he's going to 132 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: be highly covered and have a lot of chips that 133 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 2: they can play to convince Tyler Linarbaum to stay. 134 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: We'll just have to see if it's enough. 135 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: Well, the other big contract there's a handful of big 136 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: contract questions, but the other massive contract question for the 137 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: Ravens is Lamar Jackson, and he's it's not a free 138 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: agency situation, but he's got a huge cap number this year. 139 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: If nothing were to happen with his contract now, the 140 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: Ravens have some mechanisms where they could adjust that, but 141 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: the ideal scenario is to work out an extension, add 142 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: years and add money to that deal. And Eric Zacosta 143 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: was asked about that overall, he kept it private. He said, 144 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: when we went through this process a few years ago, 145 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: we agree that we were going to keep it private, 146 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: and we think that's the best way to go about this. 147 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: As everyone knows Lamar Jackson is his own agent, so 148 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of leaks happening as it relates 149 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: to the contract negotiations between these two sides, and so 150 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: keeping it private is the way that both of those 151 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: parties have decided to operate. The one thing that he 152 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: did say is he's confident about being able to get 153 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: an extension done. And also he's had lots of conversations 154 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: with Lamar about a variety of things over the course 155 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: of the last month, been really engaged as Rams have 156 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: gone through this process of finding a new head coach 157 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: and building it out a full coaching staff. Deck Lin Doyle, 158 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, met with him for over an 159 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: hour during a zoom call during the interview process. So 160 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: there's been lots of conversations between Lamar and the Ravens 161 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: on a variety of fronts, and it seems like the 162 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: tide is moving in the direction of trying to get 163 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: that extension done right. 164 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: Those communifications is definitely open and Steve Bushatty said that, 165 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: you know, he would like to have it done before 166 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: free agency, as Eric would, and I'm sure as Lamar 167 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: would if they can work out something. So all those 168 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: signs are good and even though the Ravens aren't, you know, 169 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: saying much about the negotiations. Lamar Jackson his best relationship 170 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: in NFL is with the Ravens. I mean, he plays 171 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: for the Ravens. He's done a deal with Eric before. 172 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: He wants to stay in Baltimore, and he also wants 173 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: the Ravens to have flexibility to get players who can 174 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: help him help them win a Super Bowl. So I 175 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 2: think that the possibilities Eric the confidence said he's confident 176 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: that it can get done. 177 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: Yep. 178 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: So again, the last time they had were in this 179 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: situation for months, we heard about you know, is this 180 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: gonna happen? With Lamar re signing, it happened. This situation, 181 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: to me is not as sensitive because he's already under 182 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: com He's not going anywhere. They're just trying to make 183 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 2: the financewer so that the Ravens can do more of 184 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: the things they want to do. So it'll probably like 185 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: most of these things come down to the wire. 186 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, most of the negotiations and deals they do. 187 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: It's great when the Ravens has done a really good 188 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 2: job resigning their own players over the years, but every 189 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: player you want to get the situation cleared up with, 190 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: it usually doesn't happen like that it's often at the 191 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: very last minute. So I think in another week or 192 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: two we'll know the answer to some of these questions. 193 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: But until that happens, we have to be patient. Don't 194 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 2: have to be, but it removes you to be patient 195 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: because usually these things do come down in the last minute. 196 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. He also made the point that he doesn't necessarily 197 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: view the Lamar contract extension as like the big domino 198 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: to fall, then everything else falls in place after that. 199 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that are happening all simultaneously. 200 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: We already talked about Leondarbaum, Lamar's take happening, the contract 201 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: negotiations are happening, and then another one is Isaiah Likely, 202 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: And this has been one that has there's been more 203 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: chatter about this, I would say over the course of 204 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: the last week, as Isaiah Likely has done some interviews. 205 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson tweeted this week in response are today in 206 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: response to a tweet from Leacher Report about what team 207 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely is going to be on next year that 208 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: he wants the Lamar indicated he wants to be the Ravens. 209 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: So obviously Lamar would like to have Isaiah Likely back, 210 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: which is not a surprise those two guys are really close, 211 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: and so, you know, I asked Eric about the possibility 212 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: of bringing back Likely, knowing they already did a deal 213 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: with Mark Andrews last year in a contract extension with him. 214 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: Tacasta said, it's definitely a possibility of retaining Likely. It's 215 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: not like, Okay, we already did Andrews, the door has 216 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: closed on Isaiah Likely. That's not the way the Ravens 217 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: are looking at it now. Will the two sides be 218 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: able to agree on a deal, We'll see, But Tacasta 219 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: said it's definitely a possibility that the Ravens could bring 220 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: him back and keep this you know, tight end group 221 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: kind of intact. 222 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure they would love to. 223 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: I mean you think out the last catch it likely 224 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: made last year, you know, for the fourth quarter against 225 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: the Steelers. I mean, yes, that's the type of play 226 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: that he has the potential to make, continue to make 227 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: as his year go by. I think likely these best 228 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: years are in front of him, and returning him to 229 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 2: the Ravens offense with Lamar that he already has chemistry with, 230 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: and then Declan Doyle the new spin he's gonna put 231 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: on the Ravens offense. It'd be another weapon be intriguing 232 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 2: to have. So yeah, I mean, we'll see how that goes, 233 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 2: but yeah, it is encouraging to hear from Eric that no, 234 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: doesn't think the doors closed and that yes, if he 235 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: were to come back, then the Ravens once again would 236 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: have one of the strongest tight ends rooms in the 237 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: league with he and Mark Andrews at the top. 238 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Eric Alsion talking about Andrews and how 239 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: they feel really good about that contract and what they're 240 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: going to be able to get out of Andrews this 241 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: year and beyond in the playmaker that he's going to 242 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: be for this offense. Likely Projecting that contract is tough 243 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: because statistics it was a down year for him. He 244 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: missed a good portion of the early part of the 245 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: season with that foot injury, working his way back then 246 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: kind of had to get reacclimated in the offense. So 247 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: production wise last year he didn't have a big season. 248 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: But he's got this enormous talent and potential, and so 249 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: is it a shorter term contract to then try to 250 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: cash in later does Hee. It's just hard for me 251 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: to see what that deal ends up looking like with 252 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens or elsewhere, but to the point that we're 253 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: making the door is not closed on him returning to 254 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens, and that is also, you know, that's an 255 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: exciting possibility of potentially getting him back in Baltimore. Some 256 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: other notes contract Wise, the costume was asked specifically about 257 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey and he indicated that the expectation is that 258 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey is going to be on the team this year. 259 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: He is under contract. But the question was about whether 260 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: he expects Marlin to be on the team this year. 261 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: That has been something that's been floated out there that 262 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: maybe he wouldn't be on the team, or they can 263 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: move in a different direction or cut him. But Gossa said, 264 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: the expectation is that Marlon Humphrey is going to be 265 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: on this. 266 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: Team, right. He said, he loves Marlon Humphrey. 267 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, And Walton Humphrey has played his entire career in Baltimore. 268 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: He knows he didn't have his best season last year. 269 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: Walton Humphrey has always been a prideful player, gives you 270 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: everything he's got, And yeah, I feel that Warlin Humphrey's 271 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: going to have a good year next season. 272 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: I really believe that. I think that. 273 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: You know, over the last couple of years, he's definitely, 274 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,959 Speaker 2: to me, done a great job of taking care of 275 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 2: his body. 276 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: You know, he's dropped some pounds. 277 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: He looks so cut up it last year coming to 278 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: training camp, it was clear when you laid eyes on 279 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: him how much worked he had put into the offseason. 280 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, Marlon Humphrey, he's been here twenty sixteen. He 281 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: has the only thing left for him to do now 282 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: is to win a Super Bowl. He's in the same 283 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: mix as of Ronnie Stanley and Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews, 284 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: Patrick Ricard, those guys who have been the core of 285 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: the Ravens for the last eight years or more still 286 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 2: feel like they have unfinished business. So yeah, I wasn't 287 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 2: surprised Eric say that Marlon is going to be a 288 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 2: part of things. I do think he's going to play 289 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: better than he did last year. And yes, the Ravens, 290 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: even with Marlin coming back, I think they're still going 291 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 2: to be looking to add corner depth. But yes, having 292 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: him as a versatile guy who can do more than 293 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: just one thing as part of the secondary still to 294 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: me brings great value to their secondary. 295 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 296 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: Jesse Minzer also talked about the Ravens, secondary talked about 297 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: how he likes the pieces that the Ravens have in 298 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: place there and is excited to work with that group, 299 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: Marlin obviously being a big part of that. Another big 300 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: part of that is Nate Wiggins, who's going into his 301 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: third season. Jesse said that when he was coming out 302 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: in the draft, during the evaluation process, when Jesse was 303 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, he was really high on Wiggins was 304 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: one of his favorite players coming out of the draft, 305 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: and that he thinks there's even a higher ceiling to 306 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: his game and is really excited to see what he 307 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: can do. And so this is something we've heard before. 308 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: Wiggins has enormous potential and he's flashed that at times, 309 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: and I think that the next step for him in 310 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: his progression. I think he took a step from year 311 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: one to year two. I think it's just becoming even 312 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: more consistent on a play in and play out basis, 313 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: game in, game out basis, and I think that he 314 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: has locked down top corner in the league type potential, 315 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: Like that's the ability that he has. And in working 316 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: with Jesse and this new defensive coaching staff, I think 317 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: that they're going to bring out the best in him. 318 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely agree that he's got all types of potential. 319 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: He's also got swagged and yeah, an attitude, you know, 320 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: an attitude of like, yeah, you can't you can't shake me, 321 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: I can lock you down, you know, box you up 322 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: as he right that to me. I love that type 323 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: of attitude in defensive players. You still have to go 324 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 2: out there and do the job. But yes, having a 325 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: young player like that in the secondary, Yeah, Marlin a 326 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: tough guy. 327 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton, he can do it all. 328 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: Mal like Stars as another guy in the secondary who 329 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: I think still obviously after year one, has growth potential. 330 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: So Jesse has a lot of pieces to work with 331 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: and his strength as a coach or the desensive defensive 332 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 2: style of the ball I think is going to be 333 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: good for a lot of these young players that the 334 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: Ravens have who are still ascending. Nate Wiggins is definitely 335 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: one of them. And yeah, his ceiling I think is 336 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: up here. Yeah, this is a question of whether he makes. 337 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: That line right. 338 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: And one other point in hearing from Costa and Jesse 339 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: today is, uh, we did get an update, well not 340 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: an update, we did to get questions about Namji Madabike, 341 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: And this is one of the big questions that's hanging 342 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: over you know, this team right now. Is his status, 343 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: his future missed the majority of last season. The Ravens 344 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: have not indicated at any point since that injury, how 345 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: long term this is going to be. Is he gonna 346 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: play this year? 347 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: Is he not? 348 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: What does the future look like. There's been no update 349 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: on this front. There's been some tweets from from Mattabike 350 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: that some have speculated. You know, he's tweeted things about 351 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: good news, but is that related to pop ball? 352 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: Is it not? 353 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: Nobody's no. So he has not spoken publicly since his 354 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: injury last year. So Dakasta said that there's no update 355 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: on that front. There's no timeline on providing an update 356 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: on that. Jesse Mentor said that he has talked with Madabik, 357 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: that he's been in the building and had conversations with him. 358 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: He's keeping those conversations private. So the dialogue is still 359 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: there between Mattabik and the Ravens certainly, but it's unclear, 360 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: at least publicly, what his future is and when they 361 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: will make any kind of decision or announcement on that front. 362 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty clear that the information on Namdi is 363 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: going to come from Namdi. No one you know has 364 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: spoken for him, and until we hear from him, that's 365 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: probably going to be the next update we get. But 366 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 2: like all these situations, we're all all hoping for the 367 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: best for him. But the Ravens have a plan B, C, 368 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: D and E. And even with Namdi coming back after 369 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 2: missing almost all of last year, if that were to 370 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: be the case, that would not change in my mind, 371 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 2: the Ravens' desire to strengthen the defensive line. It's a 372 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: group that you always want to have depth there and 373 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 2: that's what that's been the Ravens style. So yes, we 374 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: saw Travis Jones come on a lot last year. As 375 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: Eric mentioned, he's a piece they can build around. But yes, 376 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: whether Namdi were to be part of the group or not, 377 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: this draft, I believe they're going to be looking for 378 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 2: defensive tackle help. I believe that they are gonna draft 379 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: at least one defensive tackle. And yes, it's a position 380 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: where Jesse Mentor mentioned the teams are one of the 381 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: last two Super Bowls, you know, the Seattle Seahawks, Philadelphia Eagles. 382 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: They could dominate you on both sides of the line. 383 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: If the Ravens join that group where they have a 384 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: dominant defensive line and a dominant offensive line. Any team 385 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 2: that can do that is usually a team that can 386 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: contend for Super Bowls. So that to me nom the situation. 387 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: And yes it's a separate item, but I believe in 388 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: this draft. You know, over the next few days out here, 389 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: the Ravens are going to be looking closely at some 390 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 2: players who can help them build that defensive front depth. 391 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's take a quick break. When we come back, 392 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit more about building in the 393 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: trenches and how the Ravens want to address that area 394 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: of the roster this offseason. You're listening to the Lounge podcast. 395 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: We are coming to you from the Sea Geek Studio. 396 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: We want to mention our partners of Draft King Sportsbook. 397 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: They Artificial Sports Betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draftking Sportsbook, 398 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: The Crown is yours. So we're talking about the trenches 399 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: and you mentioned it right before break that that's an 400 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: area that the Ravens want to address and then hearing 401 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: both from Jesse Menzer and Eric Tacosta, they're going to 402 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: invest there this offseason, whether that's in the draft, whether 403 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: that happens in free agency. To Costa said, We've always 404 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: been a team that has believed in building through the trenches. Obviously, 405 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: the injury to Mattaik last year hurt them on the 406 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: defensive front, but it's clear that that is going to 407 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: be a priority. At the same time, the Ravens like 408 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: some of the pieces on the offense, specifically on the 409 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: offense side of the ball that they drafted last year, 410 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: Like they drafted Emory Jones. He played a little bit 411 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: last season, but they're excited about his potential as the 412 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: third round pick to come in and compete for a 413 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: starting job. Carson Vincent was a developmental prospect to the 414 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: Ravens drafted last season and so he's coming along. So 415 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: they have some they have and then of course Ryne Stanley, 416 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: Tyler Lindabam. We already talked about Roger rosen Garden, who's 417 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: going into his third season. So they've got some pieces 418 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: in place. But I really do believe that we're going 419 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: to see an investment in those trenches on both sides 420 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: of the ball through the draft, free agency, trade market, 421 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: all the above. 422 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, what happens at during free agency is 423 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 2: going to affect their approach to how they will attack 424 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: the draft. Yeah, I think that the Ravens will be 425 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 2: looking on the free agent market for players who can 426 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: help them in the trenches. The Tyler Linderbaum situations of 427 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: as going to affect what they do on the offensive line. 428 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 2: But yes, they have some pieces now Rose and Garden. 429 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure Ronnie Stanley on the other side the tackle position. 430 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: They feel good about that. It's the interior offensive line 431 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: that yes. I mean, if Linderbaum comes back, great, But 432 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: I still feel that you know, there are a lot 433 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: of of mock drafts are linking them to Penn State's guard. 434 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: You know, veag Ioni at number fourteen. He might be 435 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: a plug and play guard at the Ravens decided to 436 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: put in if he's available. They haven't drafted a guard 437 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: at least two thousand and seven, maybe the last time 438 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: they drafted a guard in the first round, so it's 439 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 2: been a yes to believe it was Ben Grubbs. Yeah, 440 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: so yeah, I mean it has been a long time. 441 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: It wouldn't be the traditional move for the Reagans to 442 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: draft the guard around one, but if he's a plug 443 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: and play guard, I think this year could be a 444 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: great fit for what they're trying to do. So, yes, 445 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: the trenches that is it has been the Ravens philosophy. 446 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: Last year, the line did not play as well as 447 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: the Ravens expected. The offensive line. It is a position 448 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: I think that they need to address and they will. 449 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they did. 450 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: They weren't able to control the line of scrimmage on 451 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball to the level that they 452 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: won and getting after the passer is it's all related 453 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: pass rush, that's trenches as well. That's a huge focus 454 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,239 Speaker 1: for this team. The pass rush wasn't as good as 455 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: they needed it to be last season. They needed put 456 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: more pressure on the quarterback and so that's going to 457 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: be an area that the Ravens look to address. Eric 458 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: Takosta talked about using draft picks to address the pass rush. 459 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: He's got eleven draft picks. The Ravens plan to use 460 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: some of those picks on pass rush players this year. 461 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: So that is a focus for this team. And as 462 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: Jesse pointed out, look at the Super Bowl, Seattle controlled 463 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage this year. Go back to last 464 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: year's Super Bowl, Philadelphia controlled the line of scrimmage on 465 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball against the Chiefs and won 466 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: that game. I know it's exciting to look at quarterbacks 467 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: and receivers and skill position players like that's fun and 468 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: that's part of what makes the league so great. But 469 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: the core philosophy of building up your lines on both 470 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: sides is that's unchanged, that's timeless, and I think the 471 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: Ravens will look to do that this offseason. A couple 472 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: other points, just in hearing from other coaches and gms 473 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: here today, one of them that stood out to me 474 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: was Ben Johnson asked him about Declan Doyle and what 475 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: the Ravens are getting in him, and he made the 476 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: point he said, look, Declan's a phenomenal coach, and he 477 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: even admitted that he was surprised, not surprised, he was 478 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: disappointed that they didn't get more time with him in 479 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: Chicago and that he felt like they might have. They 480 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: might have had some more couple more years together, but 481 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens came calling, and then he got this opportunity 482 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: to go to Baltimore and beat the play caller there, 483 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: and so he was disappointed that they lost him after 484 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: just one season. He could not have been more glowing 485 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: in his praise of Declan Doyle, which gets me excited 486 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: to hear from Ben Johnson, one of the best offensive 487 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: lines in the game that his offensive quarter from last year, 488 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: Doyles now in Baltimore, he had nothing but good things 489 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: to say. 490 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: Yes, it's very easy to find someone to say great 491 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: things about Declan Doyle, and that's very impressive for someone 492 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 2: who even though he's been in the business eight years, 493 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: he's quick to point out he hasn't even beened thirty 494 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 2: years old yet. So I don't think him being in 495 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 2: his first year as a play caller is going to 496 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: be an issue for him. But the way that he 497 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: left Chicago after one year and the coaching changes around 498 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: the NFL is just another reminder of why it is 499 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 2: so hard to be successful year after year. If you're 500 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 2: a good team, then your coaching staff is probably going 501 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 2: to change. That's just the way it is, and every 502 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 2: year is an entity of its own. So I think 503 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: Jesse Minner has done a great job of putting together 504 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: his staff first year of going to the head coach. 505 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: Because we know how much the Chile staff is gonna 506 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 2: be different than last year. It's gonna be fascinating to watch, 507 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: you know, a coach staying with the Ravens eighteen years 508 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 2: John Rball. 509 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: That's a rarity in the NFL. 510 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 2: And so the Ravens are going through what a lot 511 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 2: of teams go through much more often. And I think that, yes, 512 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: so far is off to a great start. You know, 513 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: Anthony Weavers, defensive coordinator, Declan Doyle, Anthony Levine, the coordinators 514 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: that pojesseit is put in place, and then the staffs 515 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: on both sides of football look great on paper, and 516 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 2: I think the players are eagle to work, eager to 517 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 2: work with them. So yeah, I'm excited to see what 518 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: decland Doyle does. Right now, there's more focus on what 519 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 2: are the chess pieces he's gonna have to work with, 520 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 2: you know, especially upfront on the offensive line, and that 521 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: is important. I mean, all these coaches are great, but 522 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: you also need players. It's a players league, so it 523 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: will be interesting. But yeah, Dekland Doyle, I thought was 524 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: it's a interesting and good choice by Jesse Mentor. And 525 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: then yes, it seems like everyone you talk to about 526 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 2: Declin only reinforces that feeling. 527 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: Everyone you talk to here has great things to say 528 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: about Jesse Minter, Declan Doyle about the staff overall, and 529 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: it's coming from gms and head coaches like Ben Johnson. 530 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 3: Joe Ortiz. 531 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: The GM out La of course, was in Baltimore for 532 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: a long time twenty six years, had great things to 533 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: say about Jesse Mintter out there was with him in 534 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: Baltimore as well. Talk to Daniel Jeremia, had great things 535 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: to say about this coaching staff. So there is real 536 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: around the league the sense that we're getting out here. 537 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: That's one of the things that's great about the Combine 538 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: is everybody's in one place. You can talk to all 539 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: these different people. The sense that I'm getting is that 540 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: the league is looking at the staff that has been 541 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: built in Baltimore and there's a lot of excitement and 542 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: interest and intrigue about what this group is going to 543 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: be able to do. And I think Ravens fans should 544 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: feel really confident, based on everything that I'm hearing from 545 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: folks here at the Combine, that this is going to 546 00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: be a great coaching staff that Jesse Minner has as symboled. 547 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: Right, And it's not surprising. 548 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the Ravens are viewed by the people here 549 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: as as one of the you know, ace organizations in football, 550 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: really in sports, and I don't think people are surprised 551 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: that even a decision was made to move on for 552 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 2: John Harball, that the Ravens definitely are executing that plan 553 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: and showing a vision of what they want to do 554 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: moving forward. So yeah, it's the sign a sign again 555 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: of an organization that has a vision for even when 556 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: there's change for what they want. And Jesse Minner, I 557 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: do think it is an advance for him that he's 558 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: been a part of Ravens organization before. He knows how 559 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 2: Eric da Costa thinks they they had a relationship before 560 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 2: and now that relationship is going to grow even more definitely. 561 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 2: I mean, Jesse, I think has been good putting together 562 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: a staff with some guys that he knows and some 563 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 2: other coaches who he doesn't know, but was so impressed 564 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: with their resume and personality that he felt they would 565 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: bring the right mix to Baltimore. So yeah, I think 566 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: Jesse could have just brought in as many people as 567 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: he felt comfortable with as he wanted to that he 568 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: could get. 569 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: But instead, I think he took a. 570 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: Really broad view about who were the best coaches out 571 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: there and can I get them? And so I think 572 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: he did a really good job with that, I'm sure 573 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: with input from Eric and Ozzie and other people. There's 574 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: also been a lot to talk with the Ravens too, 575 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: Jesse and Eric about having the players involved with interviews 576 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 2: of the coaching staff. 577 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: I think that's good. 578 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: I think the players are feeling like they're a part 579 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: of things, and that their strengths and their desires as 580 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: far what they see moving forward that will help the 581 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: Ravens get to a Super Bowl and win it are 582 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: being considered. 583 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: So yeah, people have talked. 584 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: A lot obviously about the relationship between Declandor and Lamar. Well, 585 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: they've already talked a lot, and Lamar was involved in 586 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: the process when they decided to hire that Doyle. 587 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 3: I think all those are pluses. 588 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: And then this summer and spring and summer they'll finally 589 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: get a chance to work together. Hopefully that'll make it 590 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: a lot smoother in year one with a new coaching staff, 591 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator, new special teams code, 592 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: that it won't seem like a transition year. Then it'll 593 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: be it'll seem like when they take the field that 594 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: they've been together for a long time. 595 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: That's the goal, that's the goal. 596 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: That's the hope, and we'll be here in Indianapolis covering 597 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: everything over the course of this week in the combine. 598 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: Lots of good stuff still coming your way, so make 599 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: sure you subscribe to the podcast. Also check out all 600 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: the content that we're posting on the Ravens app website. 601 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: Clif's going to be writing things up of the course 602 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: of the next few days, so check out all of 603 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: his articles, and again, subscribe to the Ravens Press Pass 604 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: podcasts as well. We've got those full press conferences with 605 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: Jesse and Eric posted in their entirety if you want 606 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: to go and watch and listen to those. Thank you 607 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: so much for watching and listening, and we'll talk with 608 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: you again soon.