1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Elliott Now, your hosts Nicky Spagnola, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. Well, we got that about 6 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: a half right on a Tuesday morning here at the 7 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco inside the s WVC Mortgage studios. This 8 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: is Talking Cowboys, eleven o'clock on a Tuesday. And Everson 9 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: Walls not accounted for. He is cruising. He's on a 10 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: super Bowl cruise this week. He told me the other 11 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: day it's the first time since nineteen ninety one that 12 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: he's gone on a cruise. Wow, so lay days. Yeah, 13 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: that's right, back when he was at a super Bowl 14 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one, I think, celebrating a super Bowl. 15 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And so you've got me, Bill Jones, 16 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: You've got Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's is here filling 17 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: in for Wally Pip. Yes, just pulled out of the bullpen. 18 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, you are talking Cowboys family, right, You're 19 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: just next door on the other side of the wall normally. 20 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: And yes, you are Wally Pipping Mickey Speckmullman today. You 21 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: think Mickey will be Wally Pip today? He could be 22 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: never know, may not be back after this week. He's 23 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: skiing right now. That would that would be tough shoes 24 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: to fill, though, I mean Mickey, maybe not the altagonists 25 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: shoes to fill. That's true. You know, am I gonna 26 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: have to You don't want to? Yeah, you don't want 27 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: to fill those shoes. You'll just be you and grunt 28 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: a lot. And yeah, I don't know, right he's skiing 29 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: right now. I think so. He might not want to 30 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: come back and a cruise and those are the excuses 31 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: that we've had to miss this show, that's right. What 32 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: are we doing? Pretty good? Yeah, it's not bad. Someone's 33 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: got to hold down the fort and we've got a 34 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: lot to get to over the course of the next 35 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: forty five minutes. And we got to make it forty 36 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: five minutes because I gotta be somewhere at twelve thirty. 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: Now you got TV duties. It's actually an appointment I've 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: got at twelve thirty. This really is the offseason. Is 39 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: half of our staff is gone. It is what it is. Yeah, 40 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: that's right, and it's Super Bowl week of course in Miami. 41 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: We had an opportunity yesterday Rob and Kyle. Were you 42 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: both involved in meeting the assistant coaches? Just you Rob? 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: I think it was just Rob, just Rob. Okay. We 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: got to get reports on that. Yeah, that was interesting. 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,239 Speaker 1: I mean it's a large list of guys, and a 46 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: lot of them have been reported on, but the Cowboys 47 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: made it official yesterday and it's you know, upwards of 48 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: twenty assistant coaches maybe a little bit over that that 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has hired, and a lot of them knew. 50 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's three holdover verse when you 51 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: talk about Kellen Moore as the OC, Doug nuss Meyer 52 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: moving from tight ends to quarterbacks, and then Leon Lett 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: as an assistant defensive line coach, and Marcus Paul taking 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: over strength and conditioning. But other than that, I think 55 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: it's I think it's an entirely new staff and a 56 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: largely experienced staff filled with guys that McCarthy truss and 57 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: I think both those things are pluses. And Kyle, you 58 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: just passed the first test here filling in for Mickey. 59 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: You did not get distracted by the tour group that 60 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: came by, and typically Mickey gets distracted by that. Oh 61 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: well usually, I mean I've posted a couple shows in 62 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: here before and so the tour group at the beginning, 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of weird because you feel like a fish 64 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: in the fish bowl. You just don't want them to 65 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: knock on the glass. You did a good, good job 66 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: Therecky and getting distracted. He literally does it every time, 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: every single time. Yeah, I try and switch the camera 68 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: off of it whenever he does do that. But talking 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: about the coaching staff, I mean, I think David Hellman 70 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: tweeted it out yesterday, over a hundred and sixty five 71 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: years of coaching experience between the new staff, and you 72 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: look at some of the names like a Mike Nolan 73 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: and guys like that Tom Sula on the defensive side, 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: and it just kind of it stands out. It stands out, 75 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: maybe more so than we've seen in the past. And 76 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: it's been really impressive to see McCarthy and what he's 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: been able to do and kind of a short period 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: of time of being able to go out find not 79 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: only experienced guys, but guys who he knows that can 80 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: bring something special to the table and something unique to 81 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: the table in their own individualities. This has come together 82 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: quickly and the last time the Cowboys went through this 83 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: a real search, if you want to call it this 84 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: as search. I mean they interviewed a couple of guys. 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips and Bill Parcels didn't step down till Senior 86 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: Bowl week, and I don't think it was that late. 87 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: It was because they've had a playoff game. It's a 88 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: wildcard game in Seattle, and then he took another week 89 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: after that, that's for sure. Yeah, and it's stunned Jerry. 90 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: I think Jerry was expecting Bill to go on that 91 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: trip and be back for a fifth season in Dallas, 92 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: and it didn't happen. He wanted to step down and retire, 93 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: and he did, at least from coaching. Um Skip Pete 94 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: is on the staff now is running backs coach. I 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: got to visit with him a little bit, and I 96 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: think he was hired to Wade staff like mid February 97 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: that year. Everything and which you know, it speaks I 98 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: think to McCarthy's relationships around in the league and guys 99 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: that want to coach for him. I mean another guy 100 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 1: they hired recently in the last few days, George Edwards 101 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: a senior defensive assistant. That's another guy with experience. I mean, 102 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: he hasn't been a head coach in the league, but 103 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: he was Mike Zimmer's coordinator defensively for the last six 104 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: years and he's coming on just in kind of a 105 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: wherever you need help role. Um it's an impressive stare 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: so yes, and it's a relatively young linebackers coach and 107 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Scott McCurley, and so that's that's exactly what they needed there. 108 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: Edwards coop can be alongside that role. That's a good 109 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: point because that's that's he got into coaching here, coaching 110 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: dat Win and Coachley and those guys. Well, you look 111 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: at some of the experience up at the top, but 112 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: then you've also got a mixture of some solid young guys. 113 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned McCurley, Calamore is only in his 114 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: second year, and then you've got Matt Daniels in a 115 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: second year, Doug must Meyer in a second year with 116 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: tight ends. Now he's had seventeen years in college. But 117 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: at the same time you've got two years there for 118 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: nuss Meyer. But you mentioned this a second ago and 119 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: you said, hey, he's not a head coach referring to 120 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: one of the guys just hired. But there are four 121 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: former head coaches or at least interim head coaches, Yeah, 122 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: on this staff. And I think that stands out to, 123 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: like you said, the way that McCarthy has kind of 124 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: built those relationships over the course of his tenure in 125 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: the league, and kind of the respect that I think 126 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: the league has for Mike McCarthy, and it shows off 127 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: in the way that he's able to hire high talented 128 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: guys like that. And of course those guys starting with 129 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan, the defensive coordinator, who was, of course, was 130 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: the head coach with the forty nine ers and in 131 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: fact hired Mike McCarthy as his offensive coordinator back in 132 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: oh five, oh six, whatever year that was, uh, and 133 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: then he was McCarthy was there for one year before 134 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: he became the head coach of the Packers. Jim tom 135 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: Sula was I don't know if you were here the 136 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: week I was telling my little story about tom Sula 137 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL Europe. This was no tell it fifteen 138 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: years ago four I think I think it was the 139 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and four offseason. I did a couple of 140 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: NFL Europe games in Germany. It was the Rhine Fire. No, 141 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: it was the Berlin Thunder versus the Cologne Centurions. How 142 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: hard were those names to pronounce? Well, there are American players, 143 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: so never mind. I thought you would have some Keith Davis, 144 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: former Cowboys safety and played for the Berlin Thunder. Yeah, yeah, 145 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: But anyway, Jim tom Sula was the defensive coordinator for 146 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: the Berlin Thunder I believe it was Berlin. Then he 147 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: spent many years coaching in NFL Europe, and but I 148 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: was really struck by him. He was the one guy 149 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: that I met because I did a couple of Berlin 150 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Thunder games. One was in Cologne and the other was 151 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: in Berlin, one with with Steve Berlin and the other 152 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: with Lincoln Kennedy where the analysts and they were just 153 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: getting their break in into broadcasting. But anyway, just talking 154 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: to tom Sula, he's hilarious, right, He's hilarious. He's got 155 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: an unbelievable personality in which which he showed yesterday he 156 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: does not want to be interviewed. In fact, he said 157 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: during the course of the interview, he said, what I'm 158 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: focused on more than anything. Is not cussing, just don't cuss. 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah right, But anyway, but what was where I was 160 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: impressed with him was his work ethic. I mean, this 161 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: is a guy, I believe at the time, in the 162 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: fall he was a coach at Little Kataba College c 163 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: ata WBA, Okay, and the spring he would go over 164 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: to NFL Europe and coach in NFL Europe, and so 165 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: he would. He was a year round coach. I mean 166 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: he was coaching football games year round, you know, in 167 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: the fall and in the spring. And so it wasn't 168 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: surprising that just a couple of years after that he 169 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: was hired on Mike Nolan's staff with the San Francisco 170 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: forty nine ers and uh and then he none and 171 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: after Nolan was let go and Harbaugh took over, Hardball 172 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: kept him on and then when Harbaugh left, Tom Sula 173 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: became the head coach of the forty nine ers for 174 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: a year, Yeah, for a year. And as as he 175 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: admits his his his deal is he is a roll 176 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: up his sleeve guy and get to work, getting his 177 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: hand in the dirt, you know, as Whitton would put it, 178 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: U that type guy. And so I'm very impressed with him. Uh, 179 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, Joe Philbin was the head coach of the Dolphins. 180 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Who's the other one that I'm missing that had head 181 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: coaching experience. Oh fo fossil As was Yeah, so um, 182 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: and that's that's another guy. I mean, he came from 183 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: his father, coach of the Giants for several years. But 184 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: I think he started coaching out out coaching in New 185 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: Mexico Highlands, some Mexico Islands, the Cowboys, some tiny school 186 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: and getting paid nothing and has built his way. And 187 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: this look relatively quick amount of time too, I think, 188 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: because I think he was at New Mexico Highlands in 189 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: like two thousand, two thousand and one whatever. Yeah, and 190 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: he became he got when once he started becoming a 191 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: special teams coordinator in this league, he very quickly got 192 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: a reputation as being one of the top special teams 193 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: coaches in the league. Rick Goslin loves him, and of 194 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: course Rick Goslin does the special teams rankings every year. 195 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: What does he say about him, Oh, he just you know, 196 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: Goslin's that's his deal. He studies special teams and well 197 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: it's now it does help when you're the Rams special 198 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: teams coach. Well, he was the Raiders special teams coach, 199 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: and it does help when you have Janikowski and Shane Leckler, Okay, 200 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: sure during your time there, I think it was four 201 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: years there, and then since then, Greg Zerline came into 202 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: the league the same year Fossil was with the came 203 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: to the Rams, and Hecker was the punter and came 204 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: into the league of the same time. And it does 205 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: help when you have Zerline and Hecker got to rank 206 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: high on Goslin dranking. It does because because you know, 207 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: beyond that, with the coverage units and everything, you don't 208 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: really get to pick your players. When you're the special 209 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: teams coach. It's it's you, it's what the roster is, 210 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: and you have to work with what you've got To 211 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: that point, think about where the Cowboys are with special 212 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: teams and obviously as far as the coverage units and everything, 213 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: it was not good and last year and the year before, 214 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: and but think about where they are as far as 215 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: a place kicker, and even Chris Jones is getting up 216 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: there in years now as the punter too, and so 217 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: it's going to be a very interesting the player acquisition 218 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: aspect of this, And a lot of people say, yeah, well, 219 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 1: you got to bring Kai for Bath back now. But 220 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: you know it's still a small sample that for and 221 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: it was a perfect sample in his month here, in 222 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 1: the last month of the season. But there's gonna be 223 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: some competition. Is that a bigger big enough sample size 224 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: to be confident enough to bring him back and to 225 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: put him back on a roster, Well, it's I think 226 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: it also depends on what's out there. I think it's 227 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: enough to bring him back, but with competition. Yeah, And 228 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: they signed Tristan vi Kano to a futures deal last week, 229 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: which doesn't preclude them from bringing back a Kai four 230 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: Bath or somebody. I would imagine they bring a veteran 231 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: in for competition, but I think that's probably what they 232 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: want at this point, maybe create some competition and find 233 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: the best guy. They stuck with Maher longer than they 234 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: should have. I don't think there's any question about that. 235 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if it really costs them games, but 236 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: it certainly made things more difficult. And Bill's right, I 237 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: mean there's gonna be change, not just in players, but 238 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: scheme wise. You know, the special teams are going to 239 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: change under Fossil. The defensive scheme we can get into 240 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: that it's going to change here, whether it's even if 241 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: it's a four man line in base, whatever you know 242 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: you want to call it. I like the hybrid aspect 243 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: of that, the potential hybrid aspect of defense. Get the 244 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: best players you can get your hands on. And that's 245 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: what no One said yesterday in open locker room. He said, Hey, 246 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: let's put the best eleven men out there. It doesn't 247 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: matter if it's gonna be a four three or three 248 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: to four. That's just your person Sometimes if you're in 249 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: a three four, you might want to stand somebody up 250 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: or put your hand in the ground and make it 251 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: a four three hybrid like that. So I like that 252 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: answer from Nolan yesterday and what he was able to 253 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: do kind of just talking about, hey, it doesn't matter, 254 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: let's put the best guys on the field. I love it. 255 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: I more than like it. I love it so much 256 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: because it's especially with as much change personnel wise as 257 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: you could have on defense, why try to step in 258 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: and immediately say this is what we do and we 259 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: got to find players fit. I mean, he's coached in 260 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: multiple different types of defenses, so might as well just 261 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: go get players and figure out what you're gonna do. 262 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: Plus the Patriots and other teams, we're seeing more multiple 263 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: defensive league is evolved that way over the last decade. 264 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: I mean, and you've had to the league has had 265 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: to evolve defensively like that because of what's happening on 266 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. The trickle up effect 267 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: of what's happened, you know, the college game has infiltrated 268 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean, it was a high school to 269 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: college and college to the NFL. And you know, he 270 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: saw it with the Saints a lot this year, which 271 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: were no was the linebackers coach this past year where 272 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: their two edge rushers they would put them on the 273 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: same side a lot, you know. And you know the 274 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: Packers did that with the Smith so to speak, brothers, 275 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that's that's the way you 276 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: got to go about your business now in this league. 277 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: Got to be able to adjust. And in the past, 278 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: at least under Marin Elliot was hey, you you're a 279 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: scheme guy. You're a scheme fit. And now it's parcels 280 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: go back. Yeah, yeah, that's right for I mean, he 281 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: had the prototype going back to the eighties and probably 282 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: when he was at Texas tech in the seventies. These 283 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: are this is who I get for this position, the 284 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: prototype player that's going to fit into our scheme. And 285 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: now you look at it and said, hey, let's just 286 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: let's just ball. Let your players play. And the Latry days, 287 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: I mean the flex defense. I mean, there were certain 288 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: roles that each player had in his front seven. And 289 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: isn't it kind of reflective of what you see on 290 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball with this college style 291 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: of play, kind of infiltrating the NFL and saying, let's 292 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: let your baller's ball. Let's let's throw Lamar Jackson out 293 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: there and let him do what he does best. Let's 294 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: adjust to Patrick Mahomes. And you see where that got 295 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I mean, it seems like the defensive side 296 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: is kind of starting to adjust a league wide way, saying, hey, 297 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: let's let's get to that point where we can put 298 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: our best eleven men on the field, not necessarily worry 299 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: about schemes and fits and let that work. It's what 300 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: It's magic, no surprise. But the Pats are kind of 301 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: at the forefront of that right now, because I mean 302 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: we watched them, we covered them for a week last year, 303 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: this past season trying to match up with the Cowboys 304 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: what they were doing. Their top defensive linemen are basically 305 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: linebackers and some packages where you've got guys who can 306 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: rush and cover and do all those things. More athleticism 307 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: across the field to try to Kyle's point, to match 308 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: which you got on the other side of the field 309 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: with different types of offenses. So, you know, I think 310 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: you had that with the Patriots even going back to 311 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: previous decade with Willie mcguinnis who you know, yeah, and 312 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: Bruskie who is a defensive end coming out of college, 313 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: but they continued that. I guess it was in twenty 314 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: eleven when High Tower came out and I loved him 315 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: coming out of the draft for the Cowboys, even after 316 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: Sean Lee was drafted the previous year. And one of 317 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: the reasons was in that Alabama three to four defense, 318 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: he was used either as an inside backer sometimes as 319 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: a rush end as well Courtney Upshaw on the other side, 320 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: And you know, Belichick sees that, and here we are 321 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: a decade later and high Tower is one guy that 322 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: they decided to keep, you know, and pay some money 323 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: to at New England. But that's what makes it exciting too. 324 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: I think when you go to look at the draft 325 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: and we'll get into the Senior Bowl and what Kyle 326 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: sawl down at the Senior Bowl when we come back 327 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: in just a moment. But it's exciting because with all 328 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: the free agency Cowboys have, with all the needs that 329 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys have, and with all the changes on the coaching staff, 330 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: there's a they can go any number of directions in 331 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: this draft. And let's talk about that when we come 332 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: back here on talking Cowboys in just a moment. 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Huh yeah, no such thing as the off season. 376 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: Things will settle down though, I don't know when, but 377 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: things will settle down when. Because we got the draft. 378 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: We're already talking draft free agency combines coming up in 379 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: about three weeks, yes, a little over three yeah, about 380 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: a month now, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be fast agency 381 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: free agency and all of that is fascinating to me, 382 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: just because with a new staff and decisions and negotiations 383 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: going on before four all of that. Yeah, well, Dak 384 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: Prescott get his deal, May Cooper Byron Jones, what are 385 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: you gonna do with? Yes, Yes, much decision to be made, 386 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: and it all factors into okay, what is the staff 387 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: value and how does that influence the front office and 388 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: what they do and when to decide to keep players 389 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: let them go and we'll see not Dak or Amari. 390 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere, I don't think. But you know, 391 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: a lot of this roster could could look different. It 392 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 1: always does to some degree, maybe a third. But you know, 393 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: they've got a lot of decisions to make. And we 394 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: will take your phone calls here since since we don't 395 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: have Everson and we don't have Mickey, we've got more 396 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: time to fill. Is that a slight to me? No, 397 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: not at all, not at all. It's but it's a slight. 398 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: I've got Spagnola's listening right now. I really yes. I 399 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: bet he's got his phone up while he's got his skis. 400 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: He just can't he can't get away. He got his 401 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: air pods in making a big air pod guy. He 402 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: emailed me a Jack Black to read after death break watching. 403 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: Then Kyle has you to read that though, right, you're 404 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: in the chair. That's fair. I am do it. Make 405 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: these spots. I'll find YouTube, but I'm not going to 406 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: be nearly as good as Makey's are. But Kayden Gates 407 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: is taking your phone calls, and I don't remember the 408 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: phone number. It's been so long since we took phone 409 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: calls and Cowboys five to two ninety seven. That's right. 410 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: It's on the screen right now. They can see it 411 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: is on the screen. That production qual right, So how 412 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: do you remember that? That Kyle? Eight eight eight? That's 413 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: that's all. Normally I do exactly what Kayden just did, 414 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: and I just throw it up on the screen. But 415 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: eight eight eight that would be Troy and Michael to me, Okay, 416 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: you could go Troy and Drew, Troy and Das right 417 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: y eight e. I mean I grew up more in 418 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: the daz Realm. I guess, but you can go. I 419 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: would still say probably Michael in that regard, Troy, Michael, 420 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: Troy again, Layton Vander Esch, MT Smith and Jason Hatcher 421 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: former Great not Taco Taco, Charles Taco. See I go 422 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: Leroy Jordan's okay, Bob Hayes, you know they used ninety 423 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: seven ninety numbers back in my day? Did they not 424 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: know who? They didn't have to because the rosters weren't 425 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: as large back then. Good point, back in my day. 426 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: And so I'm one Leroy Glover with the ninety seven 427 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: or no, no, no, no, no, I'm going Jimmy Jones. Oh, 428 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: Jimmy Jones. Okay, earlier earlier than Leroy Glover. So there 429 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: you go. All right, So you want to talk Senior Bowl. 430 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: Let's one of us was in Mobile last week at 431 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, and that one would be Kyle Yeoman's 432 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: And it was Yeoman's work that you did that last 433 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: week there, Kyle. Yeah, I mean it was a lot 434 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: of fun. It was my first really really good Yeah, 435 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: he's great, but he's never never heard that. It's definitely 436 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: not the name of my podcast or anything, but the 437 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: uh this it was the first Senior Bowl that I've 438 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: gone to. And of course being with the Draft Show, 439 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: it's been a great month already of kind of diving in, 440 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: watching a ton of film and really getting to know 441 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: these guys, starting to see exactly where the Cowboys could 442 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: be looking in terms of their guys. And we had 443 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks on last Thursday and we talked a lot 444 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: about the blueprint, well he was on the Draft show, 445 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: but the blueprint that we have as a as an 446 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: NFL organization to potentially be successful and to build a 447 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: solid roster. And the Cowboys are about three positions short, 448 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: and we decided that was tight in defensive line secondary, 449 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: which is not a surprise to anybody. That's really where 450 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: the eyes have already been. So but there were some 451 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: guys that stood out over the course of the week 452 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: and then even on Saturday that that kind of flashed 453 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: some stuff that you like to see that could potentially 454 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: fit with the Cowboys. And going back to what we 455 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: talked about in the first segment, I mean the fact 456 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: that it's so wide open and the scheme is so undefined. Man, 457 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: it makes things fun from a draft standpoint, in a 458 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: outing standpoint, to say he's a ball or we could 459 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: we could really use him on the Who's one guy? 460 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: One guy? That's that you keep coming back to Javon 461 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: kin Law out of South Carolina, defensive tackle. Where is 462 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 1: he going to be picked? What? Hell? High? Probably right 463 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: around seventeen, the middle of the first round. And the 464 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: only reason I would say that he drops is because 465 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: of the fact that a lot of teams in front 466 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys need some quarterbacks, and so I think 467 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are probably gonna be over picked a little bit. 468 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: A guy like Jordan Love Utah State, I mean, justin 469 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: Herbert's probably gonna go in the top ten, potentially six 470 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: to the Chargers. Of course two was probably gonna be 471 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: picked in that realm as well. So there's already three 472 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: guys plus Joe Burrow, so four quarterbacks. That ultimately puts 473 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: you up position player wise to about the thirteenth best 474 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: position player. Also, not to mention the wide receivers out 475 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: of there, Jerry Judy, Cedee Lamb, even Rugs could be 476 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: in that that conversation. That may be the deepest position 477 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: in the top Yeah, this this draft is extremely deep 478 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to receivers. And I would honestly say 479 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: potentially tackle. I think offensive tackle. It's it's a very 480 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: deep draft, but I would say wide receiver by far. 481 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: And I think that was reflected in Mobile. A lot 482 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: of great guys that were running around. But you take 483 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: four receivers, four quarterbacks, that's eight picks in front of 484 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: you potentially that the Cowboys don't have to worry about 485 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: in terms of the needs that they've got to fill. 486 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting defensive tackle. What type of defensive tackle do 487 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: they want? A good one? A good one, but well, 488 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: and the thing is the thing about kin Law that's 489 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: interesting is he's not necessarily defined. He likes playing out 490 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: of the three technique and he likes being that guy, 491 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 1: but he can also line up in a one. He 492 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 1: could be a guy who could kind of go to 493 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: the outside a little bit and have some success. I mean, 494 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: he's massive. I don't have his measurements right in front 495 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: of me at the moment, but I can pull it 496 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: up here in just a second. But six six three 497 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: ten is what he was measured at. So Bill McClay 498 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: used that as example when he spoke to the senior 499 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. To the reporters, he said, you 500 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: know about the influence from the coaching staff, how that 501 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: influences how the front office looks at players, and said, look, 502 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna listen to him what they like. 503 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: And he said, if they want bigger I think bigger 504 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: defensive tackles, we can do that. That's not a guarantee, 505 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: but that's that would be a difference from the Marinelli Era, 506 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. I like the scheme flexibility 507 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 1: because I think that's probably what you're looking for on 508 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: defensive guy who can kind of do anything you want 509 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, and I think secondary would be a 510 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: safe pick in the first round as well. That's why 511 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: a lot of the names like Grant Delpit and Xavier McKinney. 512 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: McKinney excuse me, out of Alabama have kind of come up. 513 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 1: But at least Senior Bowl wise, specifically looking at kin Law, 514 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: all eyes were on him from a Cowboys perspective, at 515 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: least with helpman. And I sat with Nate Newton and 516 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: he said, man, if if he gets his hands inside 517 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: and he's able to get inside of an offensive lineman, 518 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: there's no block in him, he's gonna throw you around. 519 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: And Nate was really high on him. He did he 520 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: indicate who he kind of reminded him of. I don't 521 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: think so. I don't think he kind of gave a 522 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: comp at least in that regard. Did you hear something. 523 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm just the size wise, six six three ten, I'm 524 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: thinking Michael Brucker's or something like that. I was thinking 525 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: maybe a Chris Jones from Kansas City, it would be great. Yeah, 526 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: a little bit like that. Yeah, I think he's incredible. 527 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: And I think if if you've got a guy like 528 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: that in the middle of your defense with the linebackers 529 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: that you have and potentially letting them go down down 530 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: downhill a little bit more than they have in the past, 531 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: and man, that's that's a lot of run stopping ability 532 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: that you've got. Now. The one knocked to kin Law 533 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: this week is he kind of struggled a little bit 534 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: against smaller offensive lineman Lloyd Cushionberry, the second the offensive 535 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: lineman out of l he kind of gave fits to 536 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: kin Law and it it elevated Cushionberry stock a little bit, 537 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: but kin Law kind of struggled to get those hands 538 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: inside went to the outside a little bit. But as 539 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: a smaller guy, it just seemed like Cushionberry had a 540 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: little bit more leverage and was able to kind of 541 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: utilize the speed a little bit more in order to 542 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: slow down a guy like Ken Law who has some 543 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: speed but still takes a little bit to get going, 544 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: which is understandable if you're six six three ten. So 545 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: it's just, uh, it's interesting to see kind of the 546 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: matchups and specifically the strengths and weaknesses of kin Law. 547 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: He did come up a little limp at the end 548 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: of the second practice and they shut him down for 549 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: the week. But it shouldn't be any issue. I think 550 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: he's supposed to be good for the Combine next month, 551 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 1: so uh really shouldn't be any lingering stuff. All right. 552 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: Kyle is from Waco, Brian is from Waco. And Brian, 553 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: you are up here on Talking Cowboys. Do you know 554 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: Brian from Waco? What's the last name? Well, I don't know. 555 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: Brian's gonna have to Yeah, you're not getting at but Kyla, 556 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know you're from Waco. Man, that's cool. Yeah, 557 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: man Waco, Brian you panther, No, I am not. Okay, 558 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm a Baylor Bear fan though, he sim Yeah, how 559 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: about that. Maybe i'll see a Vtex sometime. We'll get 560 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: a barbecue. Yeah yeah. Um, so I have a little 561 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: bit of a thought experiment. I know. Um, I've been 562 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: kind of keeping an eye. I'm most of the mock 563 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: drafts have been going around. I'm a web and you know, 564 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: ninety percent of them gonna have Grant Delpit going to us. 565 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: And that's that's all well and good. I would be 566 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: happy with that. UM And I kind of think Colin, 567 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: not to disagree with you a little bit, but I 568 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: think Javon ken law Um, I have a feeling he's 569 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: going to go a little earlier, like maybe to the 570 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: Colts or the buck Buccaneers, maybe beforehand. I think once 571 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: he gets to the combine, I think some of those 572 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: coaching staffs are just gonna fall in love with him 573 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: and his measurables and everything else. I kind of feel 574 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: like he's gonna be gone last seventeen. Uh. And I 575 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: know how you were talking about the deep wide receiver 576 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: class and um, and you were talking about Bucky Brooks 577 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: earlier and his mock draft just came out and he 578 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: gave us Henry Ruggs. And that's kind of who I've 579 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: been on or lately the past few days. I think 580 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: having him, Amari and Michael Gallup all in the same um, 581 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: you know field together, him being just such a burner 582 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: that is to me, if he was there, that would 583 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: be hard to pass him up. Not to mention that 584 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: m Philly picks kind of behind us. They need a 585 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver, so I would want to keep him out 586 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: of Philly Green Bay as well. They need a wide 587 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: receiver as well. As I was going to people nowadays, 588 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: um so you kind of have you kind of have that, 589 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: and I think there's some really good defensive tackles you 590 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: can get in the second and third. I think Gallamore, 591 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: I think has been talked about that, Jordan Elliott has 592 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: been talked about. You might have a shot at getting 593 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney in the second round for your safety position, 594 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: um Aston Davis to a little bit lesser extent, but anyway, 595 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: just kind of what you guys would think about maybe 596 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: having Rogues and Gallup and MARII uh a lot enough. 597 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: You know, who cares about defense when you're scoring forty 598 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: fifty points a game? You sound like David Hellman and 599 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: saying that he said, Hey, who cares about playing defense 600 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,719 Speaker 1: when you put up sixty? Well, and I mean, in 601 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: terms of value picks, wide receiver might be the best 602 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: value you could get, depending on where you know who 603 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: falls the seventeen I would add one more position to 604 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: y'all's list of I guess deficiencies where they're at right now, 605 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: I would say linebacker only because we just don't know. 606 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got four unrestricted free agents to be 607 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: including Shawn Lee justin March, Malcolm Smith and Joe Thomas, 608 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: and Layton Vanderesh's having is coming off you know what 609 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: they term a minor procedure, and we'll be back for 610 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: the off season program. But you need to cover yourself 611 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: with some insurance at the very least. I agree with that. 612 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: I also just don't necessarily see that as a higher priority, 613 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: and potentially you could attack that in free agency as well. 614 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: I think linebackers a position where you could go at 615 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: in free agency and have better success at saying not 616 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: saying you're going to hit on everybody. Yeah, and I'm 617 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: not saying all these guys won't be bad. You could 618 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: be bad. We'll see um and these other guys. 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And 682 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: Kyle expressed some trepidation in the break, saying that there's 683 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure, pressure, a lot of pressure, and 684 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,479 Speaker 1: Rob quickly said, no, the bar is set so damn low. 685 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I said. There is no reason for 686 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: trepidation as you make that read funny, isn't it, Mick? Yeah, 687 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: that is so use the code hello, like in good morning, 688 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, that's funny that you said six 689 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: forty five because of the alarm clock on that sheet 690 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: that Mickey email says six fifty five. 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I'm doing well, even though I feel sad 701 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: about Kobe Bryant. Uh a god buzzes soul. First of all, 702 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: I want to make a quick Super Bowl prediction. I 703 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: think San Francisco is gonna beat Kansas City twenty three, 704 00:36:55,160 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: twenty three twenty And I want to know, uh uh 705 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: among our assistant coaches, who who who do you feel 706 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: the most good about me? Me personally? UH? I think 707 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: the fact that we hired UH John Fossil as our 708 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: special UH team's coach, UH is a great uh uh 709 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: uh is a great uh uh higher because he's a 710 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: great special teams coach. Uh to take care thanks for 711 00:37:52,920 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: being patient with me and uh uh uh uh take 712 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: care of thanks for be abating with me and have 713 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: a great week. But okay, appreciate it. Thank you very much. 714 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: And I agree wholeheartedly with John Fossil as he's my 715 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: pick too that I'm most excited about. I'll go with 716 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: Mike Nolan and he said something really interesting. He kept 717 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: harping on takeaways yesterday and to me, that's the biggest 718 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: thing that's got to change defensively. They've got to take 719 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: the ball away, he said. Aikman told him a story 720 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: one time that as a player, he didn't fear a 721 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: secondary that just knocked the ball down because okay, that's 722 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: the worst thing that happens. I throw in completions all 723 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: the time. It's a Dion Sanders, and you know you're 724 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: not going to find another Deon Sanders. But guys out 725 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: there that are a threat to take the ball away 726 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: or what quarterbacks and Everson Walls and Everson Walls our 727 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: guy picks in his career. Absolutely, So if that's the 728 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: priority and that's what they're going to focus on doing 729 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 1: how can they fit the scheme, how can they get 730 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: more players to do that. I like what I'm hearing. 731 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: Plus Nolan's experience as well. Yeah, I would probably agree 732 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: with Nebby and say Fossil, but just for the sake 733 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: of being different, I would say Joe Philbin over there 734 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: as well, just a little bit of experience there to 735 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: kind of help out Kellen Moore in his second year. 736 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: I think having a more experienced staff around him, I mean, 737 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: even Skip Pete in the building as well. I think 738 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: those two guys are going to help out a lot 739 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: in the way that Kellen Moore runs this offense and 740 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: potentially grows. I know McCarthy's going to probably have a 741 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: pretty solid chunk of say and how the offense is run, 742 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: but I think those three combined are going to really 743 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: help Kellen Moore grow and continue to improve as an 744 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. That's why I like that high you know. 745 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: And the other thing from Mike McCarthy's perspective, I love 746 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: that there's an assistant head coach named Rob Davis who's 747 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: been hired here. There's so much on the plate for 748 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: a head coach in this league that goes beyond coaching football, 749 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: and that we don't even think about. I mean we 750 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the media stuff that he has 751 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,959 Speaker 1: to do, but even just setting the schedule on when 752 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,760 Speaker 1: they do things and things like. There's so many administrative 753 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: type things that a head coach has to deal with. 754 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: And if Mike McCarthy is going to sit in on 755 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 1: those offensive meetings and defense and have his hands all 756 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: over this team, he needs help in that regard and 757 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: it's probably something that he decided over the court, and 758 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: he may have done that previously in Green Bay too, 759 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: but I would imagine those skull sessions with those coaches 760 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: that he had at his house in Green Bay over 761 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: the course of the last year. That's probably something that 762 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: came up with is you need a right hand man. 763 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: And he was in the private sector of the last 764 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: couple of years, which is interesting and he hasn't been 765 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: a coach before, but he's going to be a bridge 766 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: for player development as well. He was that in Green 767 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: Bay and the Cowboys already have a tremendous staff of 768 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: people who do that. But that's another addition, a good addition. 769 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: I thought he's an interesting hire just because of his 770 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: lack of coaching experience, but I think he's in a 771 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: different role than a true XS and o's guy, And 772 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: he talked about that he's kind of a utility guy 773 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 1: for that that McCarthy trust. I mean, you need even 774 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: just things that you've ideas that you have, you need 775 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: someone that you can play ideas off of our issues 776 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: that come up. How do you handle certain things? You 777 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: need a sounding board on stuff like that. Randald Cobb 778 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: was walking past his interview session and it was kind 779 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: of like an open house at school, you know, all 780 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: these guys are talking at once, and he came by 781 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: and he shot he's a legend, you know, and obviously 782 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: you go cobbs around him for several years in Green Bay. 783 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: So speaking highly of Rob Davis. All right, Philip in France, 784 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: you have the final call on this Tuesday here I'm 785 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 1: talking cowboys. How are you doing? I'm fine, Hi, guys. 786 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: It's been a wine since we first let me wish 787 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: an epin year and the best twishes for twenty twenty 788 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 1: twenty two the Cowboys Nation. Um, maybe you are already 789 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: debate at museum about this topic, but I mean some 790 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: homework on coach mcmathy. There's something that bothers me a 791 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: little bit about him and his system. Exception of Eddie 792 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: Lacey's a rookie year, his team had never had a 793 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: dominant grand game, even when good running backs were lining 794 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: up behind the Aaron Rodgers. The Cowboys roster is built 795 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: to run a lot the rock. What all you take 796 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 1: on this? And then we have a little a little 797 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: thinking at the box here, uh say Cincinnati, he's desperate 798 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: to win. Now, what about them to call for a 799 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: trade for Dak with pick number one and maybe maybe 800 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: say your third? What I thought about it, Mike for 801 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: taking Michael, have a great year, have a great week, 802 00:42:54,560 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: and take care by bye. All right, Philly, We appreciate it. Game. 803 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: That's you know, that's he's right. I mean that's something 804 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: that people have harped on with McCarthy. I will say 805 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: that when you've got Aaron Rodgers, yeah, And I wouldn't 806 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: say they had and they didn't have a Zeke Elliott 807 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. They had decent running backs, solid running backs, 808 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: but they bond Green probably the best of those, yeah, 809 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: but not Zeke. And he's right that this offense has 810 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: been built to run the football. And I don't I 811 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: don't think that's going to change. I think it makes 812 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: so much easier on DAK. But I do think when 813 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: you've got Aaron Rodgers that that changes the way you 814 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: probably call plays and emphasize your offense. And they used 815 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: a lot of the short passing game too with Aaron Rodgers, 816 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: which can function in some ways as a run game 817 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: as well. So I don't really worry about that too much. 818 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they're gonna be seventy thirty 819 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: pass run under McCarthy. Did they have a first round 820 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: or even early second round running back during his entire tenure. 821 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: I know Lacey was sixty first we're also second round. Yeah, 822 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: I mentioned Green, he was a third rounder. They didn't 823 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: have one of those bell cow backs that you could 824 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: go to even if they wanted to know, without a variety. Yeah, no, nothing, 825 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: nothing like this. I'm not I'm not concerned about it. 826 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are. I think they're 827 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: going to try to have balance, and Kellen Moore is 828 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: he talked about that they've got to attack in different 829 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: ways and and and use run action, play action, all 830 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,799 Speaker 1: those things off of the run game. That's important. And 831 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: I don't think that part's going to change, and I 832 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: think you got to get Tony Pollard involved, sure, I 833 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: really think so. Yeah, I think that's got to be 834 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: something that and hopefully that like you you mentioned it 835 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: earlier that the barn sessions that McCarthy had in terms 836 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: of looking at the New Age NFL and evolving his 837 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: play style, I hopefully that involves maybe a two running 838 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: backs in the backfields kind of said, and an opportunity 839 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: for for Pollard to get involved even win Zeke's on 840 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: the field, because I think that would be something that 841 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: I know, personally I would love to see. Yeah, because 842 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: I think it's an extremely talented back and I think 843 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: he's we're keeping an animal caged on the sideline if 844 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: that's the case, and even Zeke more involved in the 845 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: passing game the screen game works, Zeke's capable of doing 846 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: more than that. He had almost eighty catches a couple 847 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: of years ago. You can get him more involved too. 848 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: The second part of his question, no, Dak Prescott's not 849 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: going in yere. Yeah, I wasn't even go in there. 850 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: Who is their running back? Who is their top running 851 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: back when they won the Super Bowl twenty ten season. 852 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: I'm trying to right after Green. I'm not totally sure. 853 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: Have you got pro reference? I've got it up, yep. 854 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: Who is it? Brandon Jackson? Okay, okay, had a seven 855 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: hundred three yards on one hundred and ninety carries. That season. 856 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: They had James Starks and have memory serves me right, 857 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 1: Star starts stars, and I like Starks as a as 858 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: a second back, and as memory serves me right, Starks 859 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: came on big at the end of that season. I think, yes, yes, 860 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: stand back got hurt. Right. They had so many injuries 861 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 1: that year. They had like twenty guys. Was amazing, Yeah, amazing. 862 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,439 Speaker 1: They were able to make that run with as many 863 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: injuries as they had. All right, what about this Super Bowl? 864 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: What are we thinking? You think you want me to 865 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: go first? Sure? Okay, So I've been on the Kansas 866 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: City bandwagon for a little while in terms of the offense, 867 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes. San Francisco gave me a little bit 868 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: to think about. I thought going into it, I was like, 869 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: Kansas City's gonna run the table. They're gonna They're gonna 870 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 1: make this look easy. I don't think it's gonna be easy, 871 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,759 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna stick with my original pick. I picked 872 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: him before the season even started. Kansas City's gonna win it, 873 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be a game that you would expect. 874 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: You would expect potentially a high scoring affair. I think 875 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be like twenty three, like police score team 876 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: or yeah, I will say a little bit less than that. 877 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 1: It'd be close to that though. I like what Nev 878 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: said twenty three twenty, but I'm gonna say twenty three 879 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: to twenty one. But I'm gonna go Kansas City not 880 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: San Francisco. What are you thinking, Robert? I love Pat 881 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: Mahomes this game, so he reminds me of AT five, 882 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,800 Speaker 1: But I just wow. And Mike Freeman, one of my 883 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: favorite NFL writers, for Please Report, he pulled apparently a 884 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: lot of unnamed executives around the league, people around the 885 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: league that think the Chiefs are gonna win easily. I 886 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 1: just don't. I don't see that. I've been burned by Seattle, 887 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: Denver and Denver against the Panthers a few years ago. 888 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 1: These the teams that have the strong defenses and capable 889 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: offense prevail a lot of times in these Super Bowls, 890 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: and I think I think San Francisco is the more 891 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: complete team. We'll see. We'll see, but I think it's 892 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 1: gonna be a highly entertaining game and maybe I think 893 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: it might be pretty high scoring on both both sides 894 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: of the football. We'll see. I'll go twenty eight twenty 895 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: four San Francisco. I don't have the numbers in front 896 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: of me, but the Texans past defense was like twenty 897 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: ninth in the league something like that, and the Titans 898 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: was twenty fourth or something like that. And what is 899 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,720 Speaker 1: San Francisco's past defense? It's really good. They first, first 900 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: or second, I think their first, maybe second, okay, and 901 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: just their ability to run the ball with whoever say, 902 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who's in the backfield. It's very Mike 903 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: Shanahan and Denver all those years. You know, well, it's 904 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: gonna be great. I think it's gonna be a terrific game. 905 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: And still, did you did you until you pick Kansas 906 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: City or twenty four? I'm gonna go San Francisco. No, 907 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm not. Why would I do that. At the beginning 908 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: of the season, I said, Dallas is gonna win the 909 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and so Dallas is gonna win the Super Bowl. 910 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: The Dallas, the Dallas Texans wins Super Bowl season? Are 911 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: you going forty No, I'm not. Thank god game's not 912 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,720 Speaker 1: on CBS, so I don't have to go. What's the score? 913 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: Forty two? Forty two thirty four four two thirty four Texans? Okay, 914 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: Dallas texanss just insanity, those Sniders. I see what you 915 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: did there. Always you switched on, always a bit. Yeah, 916 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: all right, first time fifty years the Texans win the 917 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: Super Dallas Texans win the Super Bowl. Okay, all right, 918 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't for this edition of Talking Cowboys. And we'll 919 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: see if Mickey is back next week, or we'll Luke 920 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: Earrick once again be in the seat here. We'll talk 921 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: at you again next week. This has been a production 922 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.