WEBVTT - Ben Shapiro Book Club Part 5: The Big Finale 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.120 Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:22.480 Radio Together Everything, So don't don't ah, it's the Worst 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.880 Year Ever, the only podcast whose title was just plagiarized 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:32.040 by Radio Lab. We are in the process, I promise you, 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:38.040 of of pursuing legally. Um. I feel confident saying their 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.839 offices will be nothing but a bloody crater in the ground. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.520 When wait, did they plagiarized us for their sure duke, 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:46.760 they have a series or at least an episode called 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.479 Worst Year Ever? They know the worst year to be 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:53.240 alive on planet Earth, and I have never been angrier. Yeah, 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.600 they just did. They just take um clips from our 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:57.720 show over the past few years. It's just our show, 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.640 is as I understand it. It's it's just our a show, um. 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.760 But but cutting it and editing it very carefully to 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:09.840 have Cody admit to being the UNI bomber. Well, yeah, no, 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.319 it's not a hard well that sounds like good journalism, 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:16.880 capustrated stitch together. That's my assumption. I've said it before 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.000 and I'll say it again. No, they put periods in 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.399 between the words. Oh yeah, yeah, that's just trying to 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.480 trick the algorithms so they don't get a d m 0:01:25.520 --> 0:01:31.319 C A motherfucker's I'm going to burn radio Lab to 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:33.720 the ground. Yeah, I think it's a real lab, right, 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:35.920 It's like, oh yeah, it's it's a laboratory. So there's 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.120 a lot of flammable things in there. They should not 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:44.720 tried us. Yeah, they'll be they'll be too busy being 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:52.120 on fire, on fire a d O lab people collab. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:57.160 Welcome back to the worst year we've been reading books. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.440 Good we have been. Has there been news? I don't 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.200 think so. It doesn't seem likely, does not seem like 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.240 a thing there's been. The only news I care about 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.240 is what's going to happen to this tiny little guy 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:16.920 inside of another guy. That's what matters to me. The 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:23.040 emotion allegory we discovered this was this week. Yeah, you 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.720 know there's people in the reddit who are frustrated who 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.720 say that the story What's Fair had a point and 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.280 we didn't get it. I think we got it. They're like, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.480 you doing an iron rand allegory. We got it, it's 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.680 just incompetently done. So there's not actually a point because 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:42.280 it's not really established whether or not um like, what's 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:46.240 his name? The murderer brother is any Like, we just 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.320 hear from his perspective that his physical labor is what's 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.760 saving the farm, and we never actually get a reveal 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.040 to show that his brother was actually doing anything that 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.160 kept the farm going or the family going. So again, 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.760 yeah's that's what Ben is trying to do, but there's 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.200 no message because he didn't do it competent do it. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:06.480 That's my argument with reddit. Well, also the other brother. Uh, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.880 not only did he not demonstrate that he was actually 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.920 doing uh uh, it did demonstrate that the work he 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.320 did do was build a tractor that did not work, 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:19.919 that did not work, that that was not effective. Didn't 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:21.720 it didn't work when you press the button should have 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:26.920 been easy. Uh. Yeah. If the messages that like, there's 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.800 uberman inventors and laborers and laborers need to know their place. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.200 We never established that the Uberman's is in fact good 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.480 at anything. It's not actually shown by anything that happens 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:39.920 in the story. Yeah, one could argue that it demonstrated 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.000 that he was bad at it. Yeah, that that just 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.920 that the messages that sometimes two people who are bad 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.200 at things have a murder. Yeah, sometimes, and sometimes a 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.720 murder happens between two people with very fewer teeming qualities 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.600 or qualities at all, oh qualities whatsoever, because they're not 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:59.960 really characters in any meaningful way. Yeah, well, important thing, 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:01.960 are we? Where did we leave off on this other 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.520 this other book, I think the one that we haven't 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.480 gotten wrong yet. The pictures of the mechanical might have 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.280 been breaking through tearing the halo apart. I think we 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:19.600 created a cliffhanger um and two listeners to eagle eared listeners. 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.760 We may be repeating ourselves, and that's okay, because it 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.800 was so good that we had to read it twice. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.880 The story is so nice we read it twice because 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:32.320 we forgot exactly where the story so forgettable that we're 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:38.839 gonna read. We may repeat ourselves. So I think the 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.880 mites are coming, dozens of them, hundreds of them. I pull, 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:47.200 I tug, I yank. Finally, I pry the damn thing open. 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:51.200 I think he's talking about the halo here halo. I 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.000 I skipped. I skipped some important bit. Okay, So first 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:58.640 of yeah, so he's climbing, all right, A climb through 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.279 the hole in the halo, grab the stomach, lining and 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.440 climb toward what looks like a closed ring above me. 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.279 I have to get out. I have to get the 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.960 hell out now. It takes me a second to realize 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.120 that the stomach acid is burning away layers of skin. 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.839 I'd scream, but I need the air instead. I grit 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.600 my teeth, breaking a moler as my shoulder muscle is exposed. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.360 I do remember this. The mites are gaining. The liquid 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.520 is gluing me to the walls too, like a fly 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.520 stuck in a web. Yes, this is where. It's just 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.000 above me is the ring of the esophagus. Hand over hand, 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.200 I grab my legs, hang free. Wait, how did you 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:36.000 I thought you were stuck. I thought he was climbing 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.160 hand over hand. He was climbing hand over hand on 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:41.359 the walls. But he was stuck because of the liquid 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.520 that they said. It doesn't matter. My legs hang free though. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.320 As I am hand over hand grabbing, I'm upside down. 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:52.080 A drop of stomach gas bathes my face, a drop 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.600 burning off the skin. I don't think almost fast. Okay, 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:02.760 all right, too late? Yeah, sure, sandwich goes in, Robert, 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.360 that's fine, that's fine. This is what might do. And 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.600 this is also the esophagus works. You PLoP it down 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.360 and it just Stomach acid is basically the acid from 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:18.039 alien exactly excellent. Yeah, yeah, we all know this. We 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:21.039 all learned this, we're all learning it now maybe, But 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:26.880 the important thing is learning is important. I'm upside down now. 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.680 A drop of stomach acid baits my face, burning off 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.680 the skin. But I'm almost there. I feel the jerk 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.000 before I see it. A mechanical might has my leg 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:40.480 claws at it frantically. Not a good sentence. Ken might 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.440 has my leg and claws at it frantically. But who 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.160 has the time to write the word? And I kick again, 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:52.320 But my leg feels slow, unresponsive. Then I feel warm. 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.320 When I look down. The mechanical might is gone, so 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.400 is my right leg. Below the knee. The bone hangs 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:03.400 out in shards. I bite right through my bottom lip. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.719 Bone hangs out in shards. It would fall away in shards. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.840 If it's in shards, it's not, it's others right, Yeah, 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.240 he doesn't hang out in shards. It hangs out right 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.200 like splintered. Maybe you know Ben's wife is a doctor. 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:24.720 Oh you're right, I'm sorry, Yeah, sure, she's the one 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.920 who said that if you if you wind up vomiting, 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.600 you have to get clear immediately because the stomach acid 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.720 will eat a hole in your floor. Oh yeah, whenever 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.800 you know, whenever you like throw up. Yeah, it goes 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:40.640 right through the toilet, is coated with stomach acid, and 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.840 you never speak again. Yeah. That's why everyone dies when 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.440 they throw up a single time. It's the leading cause 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:53.160 of death. Throwing up once. It's a real problem. Yeah yeah, Well, 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.480 you know we'll get through it h with collective action 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:02.600 together and not a rugged individualism. That will Oh god, 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.080 it's trying to get away from the news. When I 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.840 look down, the mechanical might is gone. So is my 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.760 right leg below the knee. The bone hangs out in shards. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.520 I bite right through my bottom lip and the acid 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.560 gets in. I don't know. The adrenaline is coming. I 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.080 know to fight the pain, but I use it instead 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:24.320 to pull myself up, push myself through the ring, do both. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.760 It won't give way. The mites are coming, dozens of them, 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.440 hundreds of them, So many fucking commas in this Uh, 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.040 it won't give It won't give way. Semi cool, and 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.720 the mites are coming. Comma, dozens of them, Comma, hundreds 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:40.920 of them. Period. I pull tug yank. Finally I pry 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:45.880 the damn thing open, pull myself halfway through formatting her 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.960 and it closes around my waist. I'm trapped. The clicking 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:54.440 sounds of the mites closer and closer. I'm dead and 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.880 I know it. I'm going to die down here in 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.839 the gut of the whale. Amy will never know what 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.600 happened to me. She might she knew you were, she 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:08.439 knew what you signed up for. You didn't tell her 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.400 that you were going to do this for three years. Yeah, 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.920 that does seem like something you would chat about, because, 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.280 like mentioned, I don't know what the risks are. Love. 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:20.520 Love is a powerful force. But also most people whose 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.280 partners abandoned them without explanation for three years will return 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:28.240 to find that person has moved on. Yeah, maybe don't 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.000 expect her to care happened to you if you just 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.840 sort of disappeared, So maybe expect her to be like livid, 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.280 because that's incredibly not okay. You should have told me 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:38.800 you were going to shrink down to a tiny guy 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:44.280 and go go help kill dust mites that are apparently bloodthirsty. 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.600 And I have been with some very forgiving people, um 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:52.640 but but I don't think anybody would forgive that really 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.920 really unacceptable. Love you, babe, but I just gotta do 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.080 it for me, you know, but even sign there, you 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:04.439 just like left right, just left, just out God, assuming 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.120 she's waiting, sitting at the door every day like a 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:11.240 that dog in the Futurama episode the Sad One, but 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:15.040 less sad because but less sad because no one competent 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:19.760 wrote this. Take a stomach acid for you, babe, drop 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:24.360 h Amy will never know what happened to me because 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.640 I didn't tell her. They'll they'll tell her some fiction 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:33.920 about dying, a huge plot hole, Like you're just assuming 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.960 she's going to be around and fine, yeah, waiting to 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:41.480 hear the news about the secret this is a secret company. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.880 Oh yeah, again, we know nothing about this world about 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.640 because Ben is terrified of actually telling the story. We 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.480 know basically nothing about. Like is this a normal thing? 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.520 Do like all crazy rich people now do versions of this? 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.559 Is this guy famous for shrinking people down then to 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:03.079 shrinking technology, so you would think he'd be famous for that. 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.200 Like what is the extent to which any of this 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.000 is commonly known? Or like what is the actual cultural 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.160 relevance of all of this? How has it changed life? These? 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:17.680 These are the questions that a science fiction writer would Yeah, 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.040 I heard a great quote the other day, Cody Katie. Um. 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.559 I didn't come up with it. I don't know who 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.720 came up with it, but it's. Um, science fiction is 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:30.560 not anticipating the internal combustion engine. It's anticipating traffic, right, 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.920 Like that's like, what's actually interesting science fiction? And look 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.319 at this cool thing? It's how does this How how 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:40.200 would this cool thing impact people? Um, generally in ways 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.160 that are not obvious or would not be based on 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:48.040 the intent. Um. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, it says it's 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.760 it's it says everything. UM. And I guess Ben is 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:54.720 telling us that the unintended consequence of shrinking technology would 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.880 be that tiny people fight dust mites on cigarettes. Yeah, 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.760 he really thought it through. I think that the primary 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.160 problem with Ben in general is that I think that 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.640 he can't be bothered. You know, we've danced around this, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.360 but not just with you know, his works of fiction, 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.760 but with his tweets, with his articles, with just anything. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.760 He can't be bothered to do the work of sitting 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.920 and thinking through and answering some of the questions he poses. 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.400 Otherwise it wouldn't make sense and he wouldn't have an answer. 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.160 But that's like across the board. So I guess it's 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:27.040 not surprising that that's how he shows up. Oh yeah, 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.880 but it is just, of course a fucking course. Yeah. 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.679 If this, then what is not a sentence or question here? No? No, 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.440 If this, then that's the fact. No. Bill has never 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:44.120 asked a question, like a real question where you actually 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.600 are hoping to learn something that might inform or alter 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:48.840 the way that you see the world, because that would 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.560 that would imply that his view of the world could 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:57.199 possibly change. Yeah. No, he asks uh quote like rhetorical 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:01.320 questions that like he has his prepared answer for. But 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.760 he was never He's not a curious mind at all. Yeah, absolutely, 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.960 he can't be. It's immortal to be a curious A 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:13.920 movie about Ben, A movie about Ben would be an 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:20.240 incurious mind. I'm curious mind. Curious someone write it, Yeah, 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.440 it would. I'm imagining it it being like, um, what's 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:27.440 that Ben Affle? Like Matt Damon movie where there's like 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.160 there's like a math problem on a chalkboard and he 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:34.080 just erases it in writes in sex is I don't 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:38.120 know penises or shouldn't do anything. That's something something terrible. 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:42.559 I didn't have together, don't have sex, don't be married yeah, 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:48.080 or like and like, don't be married unless you're straight. Yeah, 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:53.120 my wife is a doctor. Normalized straight marriage, normally straight 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:57.320 marriage and swallowing stuff and having whatever you eat go 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:02.520 plink plink plink against the walls of your esophagus machine 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.720 like a fuck it, it's amazing. Okay, please continue, all right. 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.880 So he's dead and he knows it, and he's gonna 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:13.120 die down there in the gut of the whale capitalized 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:17.080 T capitalized w Amy will never know what happened to me. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.400 This is where this is where we keep getting stopped 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.480 up right, a tiny note, right, a tiny note, and 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.920 then then grow it. That's a perfect plan. Uh, They'll 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.400 they'll tell her some fiction about dying hero against the mites, 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:33.400 doing my job, the whole routine. My skeleton will be 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.440 digested by the whale. He'll outlive me. You can put 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:40.000 like a butt my skeleton with whatever is in sheer despair. 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.800 I slam my fist against the ring and miraculously it 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.720 loosens for an instant. I pull myself up and it 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:52.240 snaps closed, locking out the mites. This is like, like, 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.240 I know what he's going for here. It's just like happens. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:57.760 So like quickly amidst like all this other bullshit that like, 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.280 like what he's doing is like the like the Sienna 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.360 Jones hat grabbing a hat right when the door closes, 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.120 Like he wants a suspensiful moment where's like getting through 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.800 a doorway and it snaps shut and the horde of 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.920 mites get like slams into it and he's safe. But 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:15.560 it's just like too much work to describe that. Nope, yea, 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.200 all of a sudden works and the mites are trapped 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:23.000 up way Okay, it's like incredibly boring, like and she's yeah, 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.520 just gets a ring miraculusly it loosens for an instant 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.360 and put myself up and it snaps close, locking at 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:32.040 the mites. Okay that and I know, I'm sure Again 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.400 Ben's intention is that the actual bad guy here is 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:40.600 the whale um. But he's also not a character um 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:45.320 not not really and uh there's no all of the 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:48.320 actual like action tension is between him and these very 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:53.240 boring enemies that that aren't exciting or cool, And that 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.400 would be fine if the focus of the story was 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.160 anything other than him fighting them, but that's all Ben 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.040 seems to want to right, Is this guy struggling against mites, 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.400 which is again the least interesting part of the story. Yeah, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:10.320 it's the facials, horde of mechanical mtes that couldn't do 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:14.480 the job that he's hiring. He's tiny people to do. Yeah, 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.800 program to kill the other mites. It's like in an 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:23.720 alien the the alien is not the thing that is 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:28.480 like the most interesting. Like, that's not the bulk of 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.360 of the movie. The bulk of the movie is how 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.200 like these individual human beings react in the choices that 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.360 they make, and like the alien is important as to 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.480 how it pushes them to make choices and reveals things 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.880 about the characters and causes conflicts for them. But like, 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.000 the movie is always centered on the people and the 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.960 things that they are doing and what it reveals about 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.840 like them and and the world that they're in. There's 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.480 a lot of like commentary and one not in that movie, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.840 and a number of things. Um then appears to think 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.120 that the thing people actually want is just a I 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:06.000 for no real reason, fighting weird hero. Yeah, it's like, 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.920 um another example, you kept saying the thing that people 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.440 want or whatever, like the thing. If Ben made the thing, 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.200 it would be like a bunch of battles with the 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.760 monster instead of a movie about like the isolation and 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.640 mistrust and all these characters and how they deal with that. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:27.320 Um yeah, I was gonna say, to be fair, we 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.320 are referencing a lot of like much longer works than 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.320 a short story. But to be even more fair, doesn't 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:37.240 matter the principles of storytelling pertain to a short story. 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.600 I just felt like it's good to acknowledge, like, yeah, 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:45.160 we're talking about larger pieces of writing, but there's lots 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.800 of people that have written brilliant, beautiful, concise short stories 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:55.359 while also following these same kind of Right, you could 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:59.160 write a short story version of Alien and still get 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:01.200 all of that across us. A good writer would be 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:06.240 able to do that. A competent right, I'll go step 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:12.040 for further forward farther. Just a writer, a writer Philip K. 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.560 Dick could have taken this story and and thrown in 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.000 a giant head screaming at him from the sky. And 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.560 you know, with with just a couple of pounds of amphetamines, 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.480 we would we we might have something you could make 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.960 and do a Paul Verhoeven movie. Oh, this would be 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.080 a This would not be a good movie, no matter 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.560 who makes it sorry now, Like, wait, maybe no, you 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.920 would need that extra bit of Philip K. Dick being 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.760 on amphetamines listening to a giant head screaming at him 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.520 from the sky. Maybe it's like a sequel to the 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.520 Honey I Shrunk the Kids franchise. You can take a 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.960 nugget of it somehow, But yeah, honey, we gave we 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:51.320 resurrected Philip K. Dick, gave him or meth amphetamine and 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:55.480 handed him a bit Shapiro short story and he made 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:59.640 it like, Okay, it's family friendly, you give it back. 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:05.320 It's very erotic and erotic, family friendly foot a lot 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.359 of extra scenes with the mites, if you know what, 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.600 Philip K. Dick really focused in on the mites, really 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:19.560 focused on the mites. Yeah wait, wait, wait before we continue, 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.000 I think he's starting to take a quick ad break. 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.040 Oh but before we do a quick ad break, I 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.320 have one more paragraph to get through before they break 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.520 that pen makes So we got a cliffhanger coming up, surely, 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:32.119 and it's gonna be exciting because in Sheer Despair, I 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.960 slam my fist against the ring and miracuously it loosens 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:37.879 for an instant I pull myself up and it snaps close, 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.160 locking out the mites. The adrenaline is wearing off now 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.080 and I can feel myself losing consciousness. I shoved the 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:47.040 stump of my lower leg onto the ring. Let the 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:51.200 remnants of stomach acid on the ring caught aize the wound. 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:59.520 The blood turns, the flesh burns into darkness, just like 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:03.360 sign ends we'll be back. That's how it works. That's 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.840 how stomach acid works. That's why if you both puke 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.879 and cut open an artery at the same time, you 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:11.800 just jam some of that puke in the wound and 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.480 you're good to go. Baby. If you ever, if you 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:18.320 ever get cut, puke on yourself. Yeah, if somebody ever 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:22.040 gets an arterial injury where and you're around, just stick 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.639 your fingers down your throat and vomit on their open wound, 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:28.040 and you will save their life. That's actually what military 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.520 medics are trained to do in combat. They just puke 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:35.080 right on the gunshot wound. Star Wars was accurate, just 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:36.400 to be like a bunch of people puking on each 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:40.359 other's vomiting on each other's laser birds. And on that note, 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:55.120 here's a word from together everything. Don't don't and we're 0:20:55.200 --> 0:21:02.879 back from Yeah, I care what happens. What happens? What 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.679 where did we leave? Where did we leave off our 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:12.080 hero anyone? Where do we leave off our heroes? I 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:17.800 already can't remember conscience. He slipped into darkness after losing 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.280 like a couple of his limbs. Yeah, he lost his 0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.560 leg and he caught herrized it with stomach acid. So 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:28.840 we're good. He's fine. Yah. Yeah, thank god for stomach acid. 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:37.240 Mm hmm. Nature's turniquet. At least utilize natural remedy for wounds. 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:45.960 Get on a healthcare system. Okay, September. I've lost all 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:49.119 sense of time, But you just said what day it was. 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.640 He's done this a couple of times where he said 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:54.959 the date and he's like, I don't know how long 0:21:55.000 --> 0:22:00.320 it's been, nonsense. I can tell by my size. I'm 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:03.879 now about three inches tall. That has been another thirty 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.720 six hours. So you haven't lost all sense of time. 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:10.080 You have a sense of time. I love saying something 0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:13.280 and then immediately contradicting myself, like even the thing that 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.239 I've written and have the ability to edit, like if 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.800 I'm if you're in the woods and you don't have 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:20.600 a watch and you don't know how long it's been, 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:22.720 and you look at the sun and you can determine 0:22:22.760 --> 0:22:25.200 how long it's been. That is a sense of time. 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:28.760 It's a it's an external you have, like you're like 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:32.720 using your environment. But like, Cody, do you remember we 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:35.159 just opened a part of this with him listing the 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:37.359 date and then saying, I don't know what day it is, 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.280 like I've lost all sense of time. So actually you haven't. 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.520 And I can tell by my size how how much 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:47.600 time there's gone by. It's very funny in the same sentence. 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:52.440 It's the sandwich of like contradictory, like it's so been 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.800 Try it a little harder, just like read read what 0:22:56.920 --> 0:23:04.520 you wrote once. No, Cody, No, okay, anyway, it's been 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.800 another thirty six hours despite me having no sense of time. 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:14.880 The acceleration will be fast now, all acceleration is. It's fine. 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.400 It's fine. I'm fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine, 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.359 doesn't it doesn't matter, it's fine. There's no room to expand. 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.320 I'm standing in the whales esophagus. Actually there would be 0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:26.960 a little room to expand. It's fine, discussed the esophagus. Okay, 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:31.359 it's fine. Sign sign I'm standing in the whales esophagus 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.280 on my one good leg. How are you wait, it's 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:38.560 fine standing, I know I'm curious about that too. What 0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:44.160 are you standing on? How are you standing? I don't 0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.200 want him to explain, because then that would be more words. 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:50.280 But also, yeah, you need to explain, like even just 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.760 like if you're in like as he's imagining a pipe, 0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:56.960 then you're like your leg is against one side and 0:23:57.080 --> 0:24:00.920 your hands are like pushing against this, either to hold 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:07.520 yourself up or something. It doesn't matter anyway, it doesn't matter. 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:13.040 I'm standing the whales's esophagus. Wait you have I mean, 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.600 what was the thing that snap clothes beneath him or whatever? 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:21.880 The halo the halo so theoretically, but like the edge 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:26.720 of the esophagus or something. Yeah, just say that. Actually, 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:29.320 you're right, that's where he's standing. He's standing at the 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:34.359 bottom where the little hole is closed. All right, there's 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:40.280 barely any air, Okay. I breathed slowly, laboriously, trying not 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:43.280 to use up all the oxygen the whale has swallowed. 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:47.520 The whale will realize I'm alive soon. I'm large enough 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.560