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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, September fourth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode
Speaker 1: number thirty six. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We are live the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star
Speaker 1: at a poppet Star like. Lots of a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff going on today. Cowboys get their guy back. Diquel
Speaker 1: Elliott Ezekiel Elliott is in the building, or at least
Speaker 1: on the practice field today. He did to start preparing
Speaker 1: himself for this upcoming game, the first game of the season,
Speaker 1: and with a much much bigger bank account than either
Speaker 1: of us will ever experience, I assume. But I got
Speaker 1: my guys here, Nick Dave amberback with us. How's everybody
Speaker 1: feeling this morning? I feel great. There is nothing nothing
Speaker 1: better for the adrenaline system, the old shock start than
Speaker 1: the six am work group text. Like we talk about
Speaker 1: how we don't like to hear from you at ten pm. Well,
Speaker 1: it's interesting hearing from you at five forty five am. Too.
Speaker 1: Hell of a start to the old day. I mean,
Speaker 1: we knew it was coming, but and you guys were
Speaker 1: well prepared. We were as well prepared. You're you're as
Speaker 1: well prepared as you can be. But still, you know,
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting to have my MacBook in my lap with
Speaker 1: me at five forty five this morning in my bed. Well,
Speaker 1: let's jump right in. I want to get some opinions
Speaker 1: from all three of you guys. I want to go
Speaker 1: around the table. When you heard about the news that
Speaker 1: they got the deal done and for the amount of
Speaker 1: money that they got it done, tell me what your
Speaker 1: initial reaction was, Nicholas, start with you that Zeke, you know,
Speaker 1: did exactly what he wanted to do, and he pushed
Speaker 1: the issue here and he won. You know, not to
Speaker 1: say that the Cowboys lost. They're still getting a great
Speaker 1: running back, the best in the league in my opinion.
Speaker 1: But you know, they they had to come his way.
Speaker 1: You know, they said they weren't going to set the market,
Speaker 1: but they did. And you know, he's a cowboy for life,
Speaker 1: and he didn't go to training camp, and now he
Speaker 1: gets to play this first game and he gets fifty
Speaker 1: million dollars guarantee. I think he's a winner. That's a
Speaker 1: fun thing though, is did they set the market? It
Speaker 1: depends on how you want to look at it. It's
Speaker 1: a six year extension that sets the market. It's also
Speaker 1: an eight year contract that puts him very comfortably down
Speaker 1: in about third place twelve point eight million per year.
Speaker 1: I think, so, I think both sides get what they want.
Speaker 1: I'm curious to know. You know, and this will come
Speaker 1: out over time, but you know how it's structured, the guarantees,
Speaker 1: how frontloaded and how backload is it backloaded? Is it?
Speaker 1: How quickly can you get out of this? How much
Speaker 1: is voided? If Zeke steps out of line? It matters tremendously.
Speaker 1: And that's what we I mean a week ago, we
Speaker 1: were like, it's gonna get done. He'll probably be here
Speaker 1: for week one. What's it look like? And we know
Speaker 1: the money. We still don't know that it's an eight
Speaker 1: year contract for a running back. I mean, are we
Speaker 1: kidding ourselves? Like, let's be real, Like we're all very
Speaker 1: excited he's back, but what are the odds he plays
Speaker 1: to the end of that deal. Is that sorry, but
Speaker 1: you're good. No, I'm just happy that one he got
Speaker 1: what he wanted, but he didn't in a way where
Speaker 1: he didn't ruin relationships. I mean, you hear Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: talk about him. You hear Jason Garrett talk about him,
Speaker 1: and they all speak very highly of him and talk
Speaker 1: about how much they love him, how much how important
Speaker 1: he is to the team. I just I'm really glad
Speaker 1: that along the way he didn't do it in a
Speaker 1: nasty way where he comes out here and then people
Speaker 1: are just negative about it, or you know, every one's happy,
Speaker 1: everyone's in it, and it's great to see that kind
Speaker 1: of relationship in chemistry around the team. Are you guys
Speaker 1: surprised at all that the guarantees were so high? I
Speaker 1: when I looked at the deal, my initial reaction is, okay,
Speaker 1: six years, probably a little bit high, but whatever, um
Speaker 1: ninety million dollars overall, Okay, whatever. The fifty million dollars
Speaker 1: guaranteed is the part that that kind of took me aback,
Speaker 1: just because that is setting the market. That's higher than
Speaker 1: Girly who had previously. I think he got like forty five,
Speaker 1: somewhere in that range, but he was significantly well, I
Speaker 1: should say it just above above what Girly got. Did
Speaker 1: that all surprise you guys that he got more guaranteed money?
Speaker 1: I would say yeah, because that's what we talked about
Speaker 1: a week ago, is that, you know, the guarantees, the
Speaker 1: the lack of trust that he's going to be available
Speaker 1: are really the only issue a week that you have
Speaker 1: with seek. You know, his on field performance is impeccable,
Speaker 1: um And I mean that's that's what it took. I guess,
Speaker 1: and that's why. But I do want to know. I mean,
Speaker 1: how's that going to hit you three years from now,
Speaker 1: four years from now, if you do decide to part ways,
Speaker 1: or if he declines or whatever might arise. Because if
Speaker 1: if it's not structured in a way to let you
Speaker 1: out of it in a few years, then it's a
Speaker 1: bad deal. In my opinion, I am going to assume
Speaker 1: that it is well structured. I don't know that off
Speaker 1: the top of my head right now, but an eight
Speaker 1: year contract for anybody should give you some pause, especially
Speaker 1: for the guy that plays the most physical position. The
Speaker 1: guarantees have got to be right off the bat. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know any other way that they could structure it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to be this year's roster's guarantee.
Speaker 1: They got to have roster bonuses early on. You got
Speaker 1: to have a signing bonus, you know, right now, which
Speaker 1: a bulk of it. I mean, you got to do
Speaker 1: as much as you can within the frame of the
Speaker 1: of the salary cap. I mean, because I know there
Speaker 1: was a report that I've got all this money on
Speaker 1: the cap, but you know, they had a running back
Speaker 1: that was making three million a year. I don't know
Speaker 1: how much he was hitting towards the cap, but now
Speaker 1: now it's a lot more than that. And so, you know,
Speaker 1: to make this thing work, like they were saying, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of it's got to be structured, a lot
Speaker 1: of it's gonna be guaranteed sooner rather than later. You
Speaker 1: can't have a thirty year old running back making four
Speaker 1: million a year guarantee. Previous experience with deals leads me
Speaker 1: to believe that this is really like a three or
Speaker 1: four year deal, you know, not an eight year deal.
Speaker 1: But I don't know right now, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: assume that that's the case, and that's that's it. Then
Speaker 1: that's the cost of doing business. And fifty million guaranteed.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what Girley got for a four
Speaker 1: year deal. So really, and let's say let's say he
Speaker 1: does play out the whole thing, then it becomes a bargain,
Speaker 1: assuming we don't have to do this again. It's a
Speaker 1: bar and I no, no, And actually I was gonna
Speaker 1: say that that's actually a great point from the standpoint
Speaker 1: that if you get let's say, six years from now,
Speaker 1: and he's still producing at a high level, at the
Speaker 1: same level or similar level to what he's producing right
Speaker 1: now than you are, because guess what, Yeah, he google
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. But the point will be,
Speaker 1: these numbers are just going to keep going up every year.
Speaker 1: With every Alvin Kamara will get more, and whoever else
Speaker 1: comes after him will get more, and these guys will
Speaker 1: keep getting more and more and more. So you get
Speaker 1: four or five six years down the road, Zeke will
Speaker 1: be a little lower down that pecking chart as far
Speaker 1: as number amount of money. Now, the problem with that is,
Speaker 1: as we just saw in this instance, he still had
Speaker 1: two years left on this deal and went back to
Speaker 1: the wealth. So what makes you think if that's happening
Speaker 1: at that point, he's not going to do the exact
Speaker 1: same thing and say I want a new deal. The
Speaker 1: oodles and oodles and oodles of history that suggests that
Speaker 1: running backs hit a pretty sharp decline by the time
Speaker 1: they're twenty seven, twenty eight, twenty nine, unless you're just
Speaker 1: so special, yeah, and which he could be. You know,
Speaker 1: if he's Adrian Peterson, then this deal was a bargain.
Speaker 1: And if he's not Adrian Peterson, then I would bet
Speaker 1: you can get out of this after the time. Is
Speaker 1: there a report on the signing bonus? Not yet. That's
Speaker 1: and that's the thing is, you know, it's got to
Speaker 1: be a very high The agreement comes first, and then
Speaker 1: the terms and then you know, maybe even a week
Speaker 1: from now, we'll start to hear because about the specifics
Speaker 1: of it all. Because if you think about it, if
Speaker 1: you get a high signing bonus, it's why you would
Speaker 1: extend it and make it a six year deal, just
Speaker 1: so you can, you know, you can kind of cut
Speaker 1: that up and spread it over the course of six seasons,
Speaker 1: really eight seasons, you can if you put it in
Speaker 1: right now. So I would imagine when this numbers come out,
Speaker 1: I would imagine that the signing bonus is going to
Speaker 1: be relatively high. That's why you make it stretch it
Speaker 1: out for so long. All right, So let's get into
Speaker 1: expectations for this Sunday. What do you guys expect to
Speaker 1: see when Sunday comes around and the Cowboys take the
Speaker 1: field against the New York Giants. How much do you
Speaker 1: expect to see Zekiel Elliot amber Well? Again, like they
Speaker 1: keep saying, we just have to see how he responds
Speaker 1: to these next few practices. But I would like them
Speaker 1: to throw him in there a little bit. I think
Speaker 1: this is the perfect game to do that. Where you're
Speaker 1: going up against the Giants, you don't really have to worry.
Speaker 1: I know we'll get into the Giants defense and all that,
Speaker 1: but you don't really have to worry about getting a
Speaker 1: guy like Zeke in there. You got other guys that
Speaker 1: can do that, Tony Polar So this is the perfect game.
Speaker 1: Too easy him in. We've mentioned smilar things with Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll he'll be playing or not,
Speaker 1: but just throw him in there a little bit and
Speaker 1: get him a good feel for it. He's he can
Speaker 1: definitely handle the Giants with no problem. I'm starting to
Speaker 1: get nervous at the way, and I include myself in that,
Speaker 1: like a lot of writing off of the Giants going
Speaker 1: on from that from the outsider's perspective, not the team,
Speaker 1: but us. Use. Those are always bad situations when it
Speaker 1: just everything says one thing. In the NFL, especially at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, it just it works me.
Speaker 1: There's no way, there's no way it can be the
Speaker 1: other way. I mean, it shouldn't be seen, it should
Speaker 1: not be I've seen crazier things happen. I would expect
Speaker 1: him to be out there for the first snap of
Speaker 1: the game. I don't. I mean it's dumb, but I
Speaker 1: think that matters. I mean, you just gave him this money,
Speaker 1: Like half the crowd's gonna be wearing twenty one jerseys
Speaker 1: and chanting Zeke and all that stuff, and get the
Speaker 1: first carry of the season. But like he'll be on
Speaker 1: some kind of pitch count. I would think, like no
Speaker 1: more than thirty snaps, you know, if they play sixty
Speaker 1: five seventy snaps in a game, like maybe half of it.
Speaker 1: I agree, I think that he'll start. I think Tony
Speaker 1: Poller will will play more than what Rod Smith did
Speaker 1: and I think that they'll have a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a rotation there. But I don't think that you're
Speaker 1: really gonna see a big difference this week because I
Speaker 1: think we signed him. We made this big fuss. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about it. Let's put him out there, and
Speaker 1: it'll also determine on how he's how he's playing in
Speaker 1: the game. But like I said yesterday, you know, the
Speaker 1: freak back factor has to to you know, weigh in
Speaker 1: here and we're gonna find out. We're gonna find out
Speaker 1: if this guy can come in from Cabo on Tuesday
Speaker 1: and play and be effective on Sunday. I would be
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if he gets more than like
Speaker 1: a dozen or so carries. Though a dozen, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't. I just I don't think you want
Speaker 1: to put thirty carries on a guy who just came
Speaker 1: back from Cabo. It's a big difference, though, I mean
Speaker 1: between twelve and thirty. Yeah, I mean, I don thirties
Speaker 1: a lot, but twelve. I think if you have a
Speaker 1: good first half, you can get you can get more
Speaker 1: than twelve. I would be surprised if he gets more
Speaker 1: than twelve. Let's put it that way, right, he doesn't
Speaker 1: have to get all carries. He can still be out
Speaker 1: there just moving, say, I mean thirty snaps and you
Speaker 1: assume he's not going to get a touch on every
Speaker 1: single snap, so probably somewhere around twelve to fifteen carries. Yeah,
Speaker 1: putn't pick up that blitz. Yeah right, that's that's a
Speaker 1: big part of it, because you know, other than that,
Speaker 1: like you don't have a lot of experience back there
Speaker 1: running backs. So having a guy that you know can
Speaker 1: pick up the blitz probably is a good thing and
Speaker 1: you don't lose learning how to do that. If he
Speaker 1: knows how to pick up the blitz, he should know
Speaker 1: how to pick up the blitz, right, he's been a
Speaker 1: practice or not. It'll be fun to see how they
Speaker 1: play this, because like they're not just gonna throw them
Speaker 1: out there for the first half and then they're like, whoa,
Speaker 1: you hit your count and it's the fourth quarter, you know,
Speaker 1: like the Giants are down three, but they're like, well,
Speaker 1: he got his thirty snaps, Like we're not putting them
Speaker 1: out there. Like, so they're gonna have to be judicious
Speaker 1: about this, assuming they don't feel comfortable just giving him everything,
Speaker 1: like you know, we We've joked for years about like, well,
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris gets the third possession of the game, doesn't
Speaker 1: no matter what, no matter what, if he's humming or not.
Speaker 1: So I would guess there's gonna be some mixing and matching.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's not too frustrating to watch. Yeah, I went
Speaker 1: back and put some numbers to it. Yesterday we talked
Speaker 1: about how Zeke has started the season these last three years.
Speaker 1: Check this out. In the first three years, first two
Speaker 1: games of the season, his averages three point seven yards
Speaker 1: per carry, and he has about sixty six yards per game.
Speaker 1: Third game and beyond four point eight yards per carry
Speaker 1: and one hundred and eight yards per game. It's a
Speaker 1: little over a yard per carry more and about forty
Speaker 1: four yards per game more. He's not been a guy
Speaker 1: that traditionally has had a great start, so I think
Speaker 1: we should just kind of pull it down just a
Speaker 1: little bit. He'll be back, that's the great part about it.
Speaker 1: See what happens. I also want to see how much
Speaker 1: adding in a different kind of back that they can
Speaker 1: kind of mix in with him helps that a little bit,
Speaker 1: because you know that I think they'll probably have a
Speaker 1: little bit more excitement at the backup running back position
Speaker 1: than they've probably had in quite a while, and maybe
Speaker 1: that helps with getting you know, defenses a little bit
Speaker 1: off kilter a little bit. But we'll see. It would
Speaker 1: be fun in a I mean, just imagine, like Zeke
Speaker 1: has a very solid but pedestrian like twelve carries for
Speaker 1: fifty yards, maybe even a touchdown, but like Tony Pollard averages,
Speaker 1: you know, he has like a seventy five yard run
Speaker 1: or something. You know, but just that actually create a
Speaker 1: hell of a conversation on the morning talk shows. Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard actually may be able to make this deal actually
Speaker 1: make a ton of sense, if that makes some sense,
Speaker 1: because if you have a running back that actually really
Speaker 1: can legitimately give Zeke time off the field for him
Speaker 1: to not have to have the number of touches and
Speaker 1: carries that he's had in previous years, you may actually
Speaker 1: be able to see a good part of this six
Speaker 1: year deal. This eight years that they have him on
Speaker 1: the contract, you might be able to see him get
Speaker 1: through most of that because you're not working him at
Speaker 1: the same pace as you worked him those first three years.
Speaker 1: So it'll be important for Tony Pollard or somebody to
Speaker 1: be able to be a good spell type back, somebody
Speaker 1: that can come in and give you some good production
Speaker 1: so that Zeke doesn't have to carry that full low.
Speaker 1: And I don't think though, I mean we're talking about
Speaker 1: other backs. I mean they have to make a move
Speaker 1: here for when Zeke officially goes on the roster, So
Speaker 1: it would make sense that one of these running backs
Speaker 1: would not be here. Explain to me where they are
Speaker 1: right now? Is what is the deal? Because obviously he's back,
Speaker 1: but is he on the roster the way it hasn't
Speaker 1: been another move? No way I understand it. I mean,
Speaker 1: in these situations, you're usually granted an exemption by the NFL.
Speaker 1: He can be here without you having to make a move.
Speaker 1: I mean you get basically get here. You get the
Speaker 1: three days to evaluate him without having to kick somebody
Speaker 1: off your team. And if he plays, which he will,
Speaker 1: then they have to make a move by a Saturday.
Speaker 1: Probably so And I mean, if I had to guess
Speaker 1: right now, would probably be Alfred Morris. Do you think
Speaker 1: it has to be a running back or do you
Speaker 1: think in this instance, I know, yesterday you guys are
Speaker 1: saying maybe you keep that extra running back just so
Speaker 1: you kind of mix between the three guys. But do
Speaker 1: you think it has to be Alfred more? Do you
Speaker 1: think it's most likely going to be offered more so, Well,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be obviously, but you know they
Speaker 1: brought Jordan Chun up. Now, maybe they decide to put
Speaker 1: him back down. But I think he's a special team's guy.
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna try to fig out of way
Speaker 1: to get him to the game. We said all along
Speaker 1: if if Zeke's here, I mean Alfred was only signed
Speaker 1: when Zeke wasn't here. So I think you know it's
Speaker 1: all about and guaranteed. I mean I said during the
Speaker 1: summer I thought Alfred would be on the team regardless,
Speaker 1: which maybe not because again the forty six man roster,
Speaker 1: two running backs that don't play special teams, that's hard
Speaker 1: to work with. And his salary I believe since he's
Speaker 1: on the roster on Tuesday, I believe his salary. Now
Speaker 1: I was guaranteed for the entire season, Alfred Morris and
Speaker 1: all veterans, and the likelihoods you could probably keep him
Speaker 1: around and if you need to resign him back, to
Speaker 1: resign him back, I would think cutting him on Saturday
Speaker 1: does not mean he's done with this team by any stretch.
Speaker 1: If they were really gonna just cut him and say
Speaker 1: see you later, I mean, would they even let him
Speaker 1: change numbers? I mean, would they go through that process like, oh,
Speaker 1: Le's changed numbers and be like, you're about to be
Speaker 1: cut anyways. Oh what do you tell the guy if
Speaker 1: he's like, I won this jersey number you, Oh, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna cut you. And you're sure about that? Are
Speaker 1: you sure you want to change? I don't know if
Speaker 1: I can't do that because we've got Scandrick. You know,
Speaker 1: we're going to retire as a number or something like that.
Speaker 1: Justice protection, I would probably want to keep Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: because I'd probably make him inactive every week. But just
Speaker 1: having that insurance in the event that if you don't
Speaker 1: feel great about Pollard being able to be your workhorse
Speaker 1: back in the events he goes down, then I think
Speaker 1: that gives you a little bit of insurance. Knowing that
Speaker 1: Zeke has been out of training camp gives you a
Speaker 1: little bit insurance just in case something should happen here,
Speaker 1: you know, in this time when he's having to kind
Speaker 1: of reacclimate himself to the NFL and to playing football,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take our first break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the Giants offense. I'n't spoke yesterday.
Speaker 1: Me and Dave talked about it. He's gonna do OFFENSEI today.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the Giants offense versus the Cowboys defense.
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Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We've been talking
Speaker 1: about Zeke's contract. We're going to talk about the Giants here.
Speaker 1: Coming up today, We're going to focus in on the
Speaker 1: Giants offense. Before we do that, Nick though, give me
Speaker 1: a quick update on injuries. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that towards the end of training camp were kind
Speaker 1: of out and getting back into practice. Tell me where
Speaker 1: we are heading into this first full practice before the
Speaker 1: Giants game. As far as injuries are concerned, Well, the
Speaker 1: main guys that were banged up that all came back
Speaker 1: last week. I mean the key one I think was
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. I mean, Byron is a guy that we
Speaker 1: thought might be limited with a hip injury for this game,
Speaker 1: and he might be, but he looked like he was
Speaker 1: okay out there. He was practicing and did some good
Speaker 1: things there. I think Zack Martin was back, Mary Cooper,
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith, DeMarcus Lawrence, Tyron Crawford. I mean they're all.
Speaker 1: They all not only did they practice Monday, but seemed
Speaker 1: to respond well and practice on Wednesday. So we'll find
Speaker 1: out today on an official injury report. I'm probably missing
Speaker 1: some guys like a Darien Thompson and all that. Thompson
Speaker 1: and Wilson are still out. Which Wilson we've found got well.
Speaker 1: Cedric's on the practice squad now, Damien is gone, Blake
Speaker 1: already doing some things like Blake and Jarwin. Blake. Darwin
Speaker 1: and Dalton Schultz are both going Blake out there, Donovan Wilson, Silverthorn,
Speaker 1: Darien Thompson. There was a third guy, oh, Luke Gifford,
Speaker 1: which you know that, yeah, you're not going to see
Speaker 1: him see him for a while. Andy of you who
Speaker 1: are healthy, I'm that certain you're good. You were good.
Speaker 1: I can see him. Yeah, but yeah, I mean Byron,
Speaker 1: you know, he was doing walk pre practice walkthrough. He
Speaker 1: was doing practice, Like I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: Like I've heard whispers that maybe he's on a snap
Speaker 1: count too, and you know, don't just give him the
Speaker 1: whole workload right away. But early signs are positive. I
Speaker 1: want to doing active right now, do you I mean
Speaker 1: he's messing up Derek's whole flow. No, I know it's
Speaker 1: a Friday thing and it and things will change by them,
Speaker 1: but it'll be interesting to see. It will be how
Speaker 1: they do this. It'll be very interesting. Once everybody's back
Speaker 1: and healthy. And what I mean back is you got
Speaker 1: Quinn back from I mean from from suspension, and you
Speaker 1: got you know, everybody healthy. It'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do because they got a lot of
Speaker 1: decisions they'll have to make coming back. Stop it all right,
Speaker 1: let's let's get into the giants. Dave, you're gonna give
Speaker 1: us your your your assessment of this giant's offense. Walk
Speaker 1: us through this thing. Yeah, I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: always say I like to watch at least like two
Speaker 1: games of tape when we do this, just so I
Speaker 1: have some kind of clue. But I'm sorry, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna watch more preseason football. I'm over that. I watched
Speaker 1: enough with the Cowboys, Plus Daniel Jones did most of
Speaker 1: it for them anyway, And honestly, as much as I
Speaker 1: made fun of as much as I made fun of
Speaker 1: the pick in April, like I'm pumped that it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Eli Manning, I know what we've got an Eli.
Speaker 1: I'm he's he's capable of beating you. But you know
Speaker 1: what you've got. It's like you're annoying and who comes
Speaker 1: in for holidays? You're like all right, Like I can
Speaker 1: handle this for four hours. Uh so, yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: good about that. I'd much rather play Eli than the
Speaker 1: young stud I bet you. I bet you. The next
Speaker 1: time they play this game, Daniel Jones will be the quarterback.
Speaker 1: A reckless prediction on my part because they play in
Speaker 1: like October, don't they or November early game since I
Speaker 1: mean Eli hasn't missed a game since time, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: like from injury. Yeah, they would likely have to bench.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like a you're injured, right, Eli? You hurt
Speaker 1: your anxiet in that game, no, No, I'm not. I'm good,
Speaker 1: but just without looking at it, I mean it's I
Speaker 1: don't know, I know the NFL turns over a lot,
Speaker 1: but like, this is just such a different team than
Speaker 1: it was a year ago. I mean, Odell Beckham's gone,
Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon's gone, Landon Collins is gone. I know those
Speaker 1: are defensive guys, but I mean you're you know, your
Speaker 1: jersey sellers are all gone. Yeah. Um, so it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see what this looks like. Like we said,
Speaker 1: everybody's but he's kind of writing him off just because
Speaker 1: there's not No, that's not true, because Okay, Sterling Shepherd,
Speaker 1: we know he broke his finger early in the preseason.
Speaker 1: He's back, he's ready to go. We kind of figured
Speaker 1: that might be the case. So him and Evin Ingram
Speaker 1: are your main receiving threats and then you and I
Speaker 1: shouldn't need to say much more else than that. Honestly,
Speaker 1: throw out the part that Golden Tate was signed and
Speaker 1: he's suspended. Yeah, I don't have to worry about him
Speaker 1: until no, when you play. No, I mean, honestly, Okay,
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd's a really good player. But Benny Fowler, who
Speaker 1: was with the Rams for forever. I think he was
Speaker 1: with San Francisco last year. Cody Lattimore Latimer excuse me
Speaker 1: not Lattimore, UM, big draft pick with the Broncos who
Speaker 1: never really panned into anything. My guy, Russell Shepherd, the
Speaker 1: former LSU quarterback who is still collecting a paycheck in
Speaker 1: the NFL ten years later. Good for him. Um, But
Speaker 1: like you know, that's the receivers. That's guys you named, yeah,
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd, Benny Fowler, Cody Lattimer, Russell Shepherd. That your
Speaker 1: top four then. Evan Ingram is legitimately a dynamic receiving
Speaker 1: tight end, more of a big, big slot than a
Speaker 1: tight end. Basically, Um, something to watch. But like that,
Speaker 1: you know, with what we've seen from the secondary, don't
Speaker 1: you feel pretty comfortable with that matchup? And Mike A
Speaker 1: big dude to the ground. I mean get him to
Speaker 1: the ground. I mean he's got really strong thighs, legs.
Speaker 1: I mean he's hard to tackle. You're talking about get
Speaker 1: to the ground. I thought you're talking about Ingram for
Speaker 1: a minute. He's like for a tight end, he's actually
Speaker 1: not that bad. I'm just saying when it comes to
Speaker 1: playing the Giants, I think that's everybody's key. Tackle that
Speaker 1: guy well and make sure he doesn't get loose and great,
Speaker 1: go crazy on. This was a team that last year
Speaker 1: gave up forty seven sacks of eli. They were still
Speaker 1: sixth most in the league. What is their offensive line? Like?
Speaker 1: Did they upgrade it? Is it pretty much the same
Speaker 1: as what it was last year? Still there? No, no, Actually,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get flowers in week two though, yes he's
Speaker 1: with Washington now. Nate Soldiers still there, Will her Nandez
Speaker 1: the uh the big draft pick, John Uh. I never
Speaker 1: Halapio or Halopio? How are you pretty underrated? Underrated center?
Speaker 1: In my opinion? He was like I hit somebody and
Speaker 1: then I mean, okay, Odell Beckham is gone. But Kevin Zeitler. Zeitler,
Speaker 1: he's their new right guard, a very very good right guard.
Speaker 1: So like this, you know, the joke the offensive line
Speaker 1: has been a joke for the Giants for like five years.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not a joke anymore. It's better,
Speaker 1: it's I would call it good, Okay, it's it's a
Speaker 1: good offensive line. It's certainly better than it was when
Speaker 1: they were throwing flowers out there at left tackle. Four
Speaker 1: or five years ago. So combine that with say Quon
Speaker 1: and a quarterback who knows what he's doing even if
Speaker 1: he's on the decline, Like that's nothing to scoff at.
Speaker 1: I still think it matches up pretty well with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been talking. This is the most talent
Speaker 1: they've had on their d line in a decade. You
Speaker 1: just paid one of your linebackers and the other one
Speaker 1: was an All Pro last year. Like, step it up,
Speaker 1: let's go. In my opinion, we're gonna quickly take our
Speaker 1: final break. When we come back, I'm gonna ask you
Speaker 1: guys the question. The last time that we saw this
Speaker 1: Cowboys team in a regular season or not a regular season,
Speaker 1: in a game that meant something, they were getting run
Speaker 1: over by the Los Angeles Rams. Now they face Sae
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley. Do you think they're ready for this challenge.
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Speaker 1: Life in SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we're talking
Speaker 1: about the Giants offense. Cowboys will take on the Giants
Speaker 1: sist Sunday three thirty five is a kick time at
Speaker 1: AT and T Stadium in Arlington. Before the Break, I
Speaker 1: was asking you guys. The last time we saw this
Speaker 1: team on the field, they were playing the Rams, and
Speaker 1: that wasn't a good day for them from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of stopping the run. Now you face what is, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, if not the best in one of the
Speaker 1: top two to three running backs in the NFL, and say,
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley, you think they're up for the challenge. How
Speaker 1: comfortable do you feel that they can handle this challenge
Speaker 1: a lot better than that game. I don't really know
Speaker 1: if the Rams. I mean, I don't understand that Gurley
Speaker 1: is really good, but the Rams offense is to me
Speaker 1: what makes that so good? They were so dynamic, they
Speaker 1: have a really good quarterback, those that down the field,
Speaker 1: good receiver speed, A lot of things you have to
Speaker 1: account for it. And I'm not saying that the Giants
Speaker 1: don't have. Well, they don't have as much as what
Speaker 1: the Rams did. That was evident by the records and
Speaker 1: how far they finished and all that stuff. So I
Speaker 1: do think it's more of a one man show with
Speaker 1: the Giants. You can't take those guys for granted, but
Speaker 1: I think that it's a much different animal when you're
Speaker 1: facing the Rams and what they've got going on. My
Speaker 1: main is at our main impression from the Rams game,
Speaker 1: like how out of character it was, Like, well, we
Speaker 1: saw it twice at towards the end of last year.
Speaker 1: We saw saying with the Cults, right and again, if
Speaker 1: you're saying that this offensive line is a little bit
Speaker 1: better and you're facing a really, really talented running back,
Speaker 1: are you convinced that or do you feel good about
Speaker 1: the fact that this defensive front can make stops in
Speaker 1: the running game against a guy like that. I remember
Speaker 1: saying this last year about the offense. Actually, I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, my ex dictations start at zero and based
Speaker 1: on what I've seen, this is why I have confidence
Speaker 1: to believe this. That and the other end. The offense
Speaker 1: proved me wrong and I said that like two weeks
Speaker 1: into the season. But the body of work from last year,
Speaker 1: the amount of guys that are back and what they've
Speaker 1: looked like during the preseason, which is awesome. In all
Speaker 1: of the looks that were gotten, like my my base
Speaker 1: expectations like, yeah, they should be good and they should
Speaker 1: be up to this. Like that's not to say, you know,
Speaker 1: se Quon Barkley is going to make some plays. He ran,
Speaker 1: he ran for one hundred yards in that game in
Speaker 1: week seventeen, one oh eight with a long of sixty eight,
Speaker 1: which I don't I have no memory of that whatsoever,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure it happened. But like they're, they're up
Speaker 1: to this, I think, until they proved me wrong. Because again,
Speaker 1: those the Rams game in the Colts game were such
Speaker 1: bizarre outliers because they were so strong against the run
Speaker 1: for most of that season and as opposed to the Rams,
Speaker 1: like Nick was mentioning, right now, you have a lot
Speaker 1: less elements to worry about, so you can use your
Speaker 1: defense differently where you can focus more on stopping him
Speaker 1: rather than having to deal with all these other aspects. Now.
Speaker 1: I remember last year we were trying to figure out
Speaker 1: whether to buy into the whole defense or not. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm completely bought in. I am bought in. I feel
Speaker 1: really really good about the defense. I feel good about
Speaker 1: the defensive line. You know, DeMarcus Lawrence. Just looking at
Speaker 1: him and every time he makes a post, you know,
Speaker 1: his energy just hypes you up even more. So I
Speaker 1: feel good. I'm not concerned whatsoever, And that game against
Speaker 1: the Rams, I forgot about it. I've moved on. I'm
Speaker 1: focused on now, and I think they're gonna stop the
Speaker 1: Giants pretty good. Yeah. One thing to note about sae
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley. You can stop him a lot during the game,
Speaker 1: but where he made his money last year was on
Speaker 1: those big plays. You know that sixty yard or check
Speaker 1: this out last year twenty plus yard runs. He was
Speaker 1: a leader in the league with sixteen. The next closest
Speaker 1: person had eleven. With forty plus yard runs, he had seven,
Speaker 1: again first in the league. The next closest was four.
Speaker 1: He made his living off of those big plays. So
Speaker 1: you can stop him a lot. What you have to
Speaker 1: worry about is then you got that one run that
Speaker 1: happens in his eleventh carry, and now he takes it
Speaker 1: to the house. Fifty years they'll have our run. We'll
Speaker 1: have our run. You score a touchdown, you got a
Speaker 1: touchdown pass to Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup, we got even
Speaker 1: Jason Witton and include him in there. We got a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff to come back now, and you know
Speaker 1: ours Jason went and running here forty Okay, not a
Speaker 1: big run. I'm talking when you're in the red zone
Speaker 1: right there, poop, easy touchdown. And that's the part that
Speaker 1: could help here. And we'll get into that when we
Speaker 1: talk about the Cowboys offense versus a Giants defense tomorrow.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys can get their offense rolling and get the
Speaker 1: kind of lead that takes the running game away from
Speaker 1: the Giants. Now you have to worry about sake. One
Speaker 1: still is a pass catcher, but it does change the
Speaker 1: dynamics of the game a little bit if you can.
Speaker 1: If they don't, if they can't just get back there
Speaker 1: and just try to pound the ball the entire game,
Speaker 1: He's gonna get them. He will. That's just football, especially
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. But like I think you can
Speaker 1: mitigate that with all of the other fat factors that
Speaker 1: you have working in your favor. Home field advantage being
Speaker 1: one of them. You know, we talk teams. A lot
Speaker 1: of teams travel really well to A and T at
Speaker 1: and t. The Giants are never one of them. You know,
Speaker 1: like you never, you know, like a lot you'll see
Speaker 1: you know, you'll see a lot of red in the stands.
Speaker 1: Sometimes Eagles travel really well for division games a lot
Speaker 1: of times. Never the Giants. It's always a super pro
Speaker 1: Cowboy crowd season opener, and I think the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: just better. Yeah, And you know, you said, you said
Speaker 1: red zone and easy in the same sentence, like easy,
Speaker 1: that's the hope, that's the hope. And you know, and
Speaker 1: I do think that when you when you talk about
Speaker 1: how you know this year going to be better in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, we'll see if Kellen Moore has
Speaker 1: been working on it, he's got to be working on
Speaker 1: the red zone stuff all year long. I think your
Speaker 1: center is going to be better, which is recognizing different things.
Speaker 1: Your quarterbacks should be better for, you know, just being
Speaker 1: a year older in this system. And then Jason Whitnett
Speaker 1: tied end. So I think that those are three really
Speaker 1: good reasons why, maybe four good reasons why the red
Speaker 1: zones should be better this year. I don't I mean,
Speaker 1: I know Jerry Jones was in New York this morning
Speaker 1: at the Stock Exchange, so I know this didn't happen,
Speaker 1: but I like to imagine he stopped by Garrett's office
Speaker 1: with Zeke's contract and like threw it on the desk
Speaker 1: and was like, here you go, no more excuses. And
Speaker 1: then Jason Garrett picked up that contract and walked down
Speaker 1: in the hall to Callen Moore's office and threw it
Speaker 1: on the desk and say here you go. No more
Speaker 1: excuses because there aren't anymore. All right, Let's get to
Speaker 1: this No agree? I agree? Yeah, all right, so let's
Speaker 1: get to this question I have about the offense. If
Speaker 1: you look at obviously we know sae Quon Barkley is
Speaker 1: the most important cog in that will but what would
Speaker 1: be the next best, biggest offensive threat they have. Would
Speaker 1: it be Sterling Shepard or would it be Evan Ingram?
Speaker 1: I think the Ingram, especially when you look at the matchups,
Speaker 1: think about the matchups and do they be playing against? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like, you know, even the
Speaker 1: really good defenses that the Cowboys have had in the
Speaker 1: last few years, I don't think they're good as this one.
Speaker 1: But you've seen that the tight end has has been
Speaker 1: able to kind of hurt him a little bit. So
Speaker 1: he would be a guy that I think that you know,
Speaker 1: he could move the change even before you know it,
Speaker 1: he's thirty yards down the field. And so he would
Speaker 1: be the one that I think that he would be
Speaker 1: more worried about as somebody who's owned him in Fantasy twice.
Speaker 1: He never he's never on the field, like he gets
Speaker 1: hurt a lot. All I mean, it's week one. Though,
Speaker 1: if there's a week where he's gonna be available, it's
Speaker 1: this one that's interesting because Brian wrote about this I
Speaker 1: encourage you to read on the site. He picked Ingram
Speaker 1: as one of the Giants three guys to watch, and
Speaker 1: Cowboys have struggled with tight end. But also they've had
Speaker 1: their moments. I mean, Jeff Heath for all the stats,
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath played arts really well when it mattered last year.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they will let he do that again
Speaker 1: on Sunday handle Ingram rather than maybe try to put
Speaker 1: a dB on him or what have you. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's probably Ingram. These cornerbacks have just had such a
Speaker 1: good camp. I would like to think that. And Sterling
Speaker 1: Shepherd is good. He got an extension in the off
Speaker 1: season two. But yeah, Ingram is the bigger X factor
Speaker 1: because I trust the people that might be covering him less.
Speaker 1: I agree with that, and I think you can stop
Speaker 1: him most of the time. But he's a guy that
Speaker 1: will sneak in there and make a few plays that
Speaker 1: you didn't expect. So I would am I fully worry
Speaker 1: about him, No, but he would be another guy aside
Speaker 1: from it is it? Did you just say those two
Speaker 1: guys are You're just saying, anybody, if you got another guy,
Speaker 1: throw him in there. Well, I think the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame quarterback, like he's going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: He's won two Super Bowls. He doesn't get sacked a lot,
Speaker 1: and there's a reason for that because he couldn't take
Speaker 1: a bunch of hits. He gets the ball out pretty quick.
Speaker 1: So if those receivers, if if Shepherd and Ingram, if
Speaker 1: those guys can get open quick or maybe Barkley. I mean,
Speaker 1: he relies on that because I do think the defensive
Speaker 1: line is going to be in his face all day long.
Speaker 1: But the thing about Eli has always been where he's crafty.
Speaker 1: He knows how to kind of get away from stuff,
Speaker 1: maneuver in the pocket and get the ball out. And
Speaker 1: if he's moving the chains. I mean, there's a reason
Speaker 1: why he's still the starting quarterback. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: they could have made the move to Daniel Jones if
Speaker 1: they really wanted to. He's I think they still feel
Speaker 1: like he's better right now. Rope. But I mean so,
Speaker 1: I mean the Giants swept them in sixteen. It's really
Speaker 1: more about their defense frustrating the Dallas offense than anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, they won one of those games ten to
Speaker 1: seven and the other one twenty to nineteen, and they
Speaker 1: don't have two of their best defensive players that they
Speaker 1: had last year. That's the part that's that that should
Speaker 1: worry them a little bit. I would think, I know
Speaker 1: that he has done it during his career, but in
Speaker 1: the time that I have covered the Cowboys, I have
Speaker 1: yet to see Eli Manning out duel them, you know,
Speaker 1: just zip them downfield and all that good type. I
Speaker 1: have not seen that well, right, And you're what you're
Speaker 1: saying is is the defense that he's relied on a
Speaker 1: good defense. He just doesn't make mistakes all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's I'm trying to go through. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: if it gets in a situation and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden the game is close or whatever, which I don't
Speaker 1: think it should be, but if it is, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that can get the ball down the field,
Speaker 1: and he can he can move him down the field.
Speaker 1: He's done this a thousand times. No absolutely, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, and they you know, last year they went
Speaker 1: back and forth and it was this high scoring affair.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys won. I just what twenty twelve when Dez
Speaker 1: missed the touchdown? Was that twenty twelve when he missed
Speaker 1: it by like the tip of his finger. That was
Speaker 1: probably the last time that ELI like outscored the Cowboys, right,
Speaker 1: I mean every other time it's kind of been this defensive.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what year it was. Miles lost it
Speaker 1: in the lights stadium. Yeah, that was a pretty bad loss.
Speaker 1: It's funny like in I started in thirteen and the
Speaker 1: Giants were the season opener, then of course they were.
Speaker 1: It's every three out of eight, six out of eight years.
Speaker 1: This will be six out in the least eight years
Speaker 1: they've started. In twenty thirteen, it was like, can they
Speaker 1: finally beat the Giants? Are they gonna get over the hump?
Speaker 1: Finally beat Big Blue? And like, in the time I've
Speaker 1: been here, they always they always beat the Giants. I
Speaker 1: mean they got swept in sixteen, but every other year
Speaker 1: it really hasn't been that much of a problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: real quick, before we end the show, I have a
Speaker 1: couple of questions from a Twitter I wanted to hit
Speaker 1: bass Reeves asked the question how much does Goff's new
Speaker 1: deal affect Dak and Jake also followed that up with
Speaker 1: with with a Zeke contract now finally wrapped up, who
Speaker 1: do you expect to hear something about more next? Would
Speaker 1: it be Dak or mar? So let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about those other contracts that are out there. How
Speaker 1: much does the Golf deal affect what they're doing with
Speaker 1: Dak or what they want to do with that effects
Speaker 1: a lot, actually, I mean, because he's just another player
Speaker 1: that's that's in that mix of you know, in the
Speaker 1: range of thirty. The one thing I have heard about
Speaker 1: the Golf deal Golf and Wentz and guys that already
Speaker 1: had this is like a contract extension is guaranteed money
Speaker 1: is playing a big factor there because they're taking the
Speaker 1: overall I don't know what what Golf's overall number is.
Speaker 1: I believe it's like eight hundred it's over one hundred
Speaker 1: million maybe, but it's one hundred and four guarantee guaranteed.
Speaker 1: But the thing about the full number you already had
Speaker 1: about twenty four to twenty five and the first part
Speaker 1: of it, so because it's still the last couple of
Speaker 1: years the number one deal, so it's really about eighty
Speaker 1: million news. So I think what Dak's camp is trying
Speaker 1: to get into the one hundred and four. But the
Speaker 1: thing is is that they're starting at zero because he
Speaker 1: didn't really have any money guaranteed to start with. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of one of the hang ups that I've
Speaker 1: heard about the Wins and Golf deal is that these
Speaker 1: guys are getting you know, they're not really dealing with
Speaker 1: new money, They're dealing with the overall thing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean typically and talking about following contracts like that's the
Speaker 1: way it kind of goes, is like one deal gets
Speaker 1: done and then the next one and you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: we can sandwich you somewhere in there. The thing that
Speaker 1: makes me wonder is, we know Dak's not going to
Speaker 1: get forty, but if it's true that he's gunning for
Speaker 1: thirty five or thirty six, then his representation might not
Speaker 1: care about the golf deal. You hope they do when
Speaker 1: ideally the negotiation brings it down into that range. But
Speaker 1: if that was the case, part of me thinks they
Speaker 1: would have had this done by now, Like if it
Speaker 1: was that easy as being like, all right, well this
Speaker 1: is where we slot in, then it would be done. Well.
Speaker 1: Maybe it also might be that the golf deal. They
Speaker 1: were kind of wanting to see where that would it was.
Speaker 1: Was WinCE an outlier or was it kind of consistent.
Speaker 1: It seems like the Winz deal and the Golf deal
Speaker 1: seemed to be pretty parallel. They're pretty close. Would you
Speaker 1: make me think Dak should probably be somewhere in that
Speaker 1: range of around thirty two. You would be a great
Speaker 1: person to ask when did Romo sign his not the
Speaker 1: one hundred million one in thirteen, but when did he
Speaker 1: sign the one in like oh seven? I think it
Speaker 1: was the bye week of like Week six, or was
Speaker 1: during the regular season. It's the bye week, I believe
Speaker 1: in mid October. I think I think you could see
Speaker 1: I think it'll be DAK. I really like, I don't
Speaker 1: think Amari cares, and I think he wants not right now,
Speaker 1: and I yeah, and obviously he cares, but like not
Speaker 1: like today today. Today he's making fourteen this year. He's good,
Speaker 1: and I think he wants to see what Julio Jones
Speaker 1: gets for the same reason that's Jared Goff. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised to see Dak sign anywhere between tomorrow and
Speaker 1: at some point during the season. Wow, I mean not
Speaker 1: like I'm not saying you don't think the point is
Speaker 1: you don't think he gets to the off season, it
Speaker 1: actually gets to play with a Cowboys. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I'm hearing whispers. That's not I know, but that's like
Speaker 1: when when they called to say they're going to come,
Speaker 1: some repairman's gonna come and we'll be there between eight
Speaker 1: am and next Friday. You know, you're like, like, can
Speaker 1: I get a smaller window than that? Said tomorrow or
Speaker 1: the end of the season. I woke up yesterday morning
Speaker 1: to news that Lyle Collins had signed, and like nobody
Speaker 1: in the world had said anything. So what I mean
Speaker 1: is I'm ready for anything. I think Dack will get signed.
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if it gets to the point
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, franchise tag time that I
Speaker 1: mean that, Yeah, I would just be surprised by that. Like,
Speaker 1: there's got to be a way you can come to
Speaker 1: a compromise, especially if he's willing to negotiate during the season.
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones said that they have not heard any talks
Speaker 1: about tabling it, and you have precedent. The last quarterback
Speaker 1: who rose from making no money to making a lot
Speaker 1: of money, did it so sometime between tomorrow and all right, guys,
Speaker 1: appreciate you joined this back tomorrow at eleven forty five
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Speaker 1: Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break
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