Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy pros Football Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Ryan Warmly, joined today by Pat fitz Morris and by
Speaker 1: Jake Seely. Guys, we are talking free agency predictions today now.
Speaker 1: Just to let everybody know, we are taping this before
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl has happened, because the week after the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Fitz and I are on the team trip.
Speaker 1: We are gonna be hanging out with our coworkers in
Speaker 1: person all week, so we are pre recording this. The
Speaker 1: reason I am mentioning that is because we are obviously
Speaker 1: not going to be mentioning who won the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: or any possible takeaways from that. So I want to
Speaker 1: be clear that we are not just forgetting about the
Speaker 1: biggest game of the year. We are taping this early.
Speaker 1: In fact, Jake, this is the first show I've done
Speaker 1: with you. I'm looking forward to chatting with you.
Speaker 2: No, I appreciate that. Yeah, And that's kind of something
Speaker 2: that's near and dear in the athletic. When I have
Speaker 2: this in mid BArch, I always have the article about
Speaker 2: free agency, so like the Impacts, so you have me
Speaker 2: already in my mind is this stuff.
Speaker 1: There's really no offseason. It never sleeps with the NFL.
Speaker 1: You know, we're already jumping into thinking about what twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five might look like. It's a super fun conversation,
Speaker 1: you know, always fits. How are you doing? I feel
Speaker 1: like I haven't done a show with you in a minute.
Speaker 3: I'm doing well, And you know, I'm just bummed we
Speaker 3: can't talk about the Super Bowl and recap Sky Moore's
Speaker 3: two hundred yard game for the Chiefs. But you know,
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's gonna be a good game or was
Speaker 3: a good game, since we're talking about this in the future.
Speaker 1: For any of the ye it's Eagles. Yeah, yeah, do
Speaker 1: you guys have like I mean, are you are you
Speaker 1: pulling for the Eagles because you don't want to see
Speaker 1: the three pet just since we're still ahead of it and.
Speaker 2: You are you going chick? Are you going for I
Speaker 2: could go either way? Yeah, I'm like, but I actually
Speaker 2: think the Eagles will or did win because I just
Speaker 2: go back to two years ago and how close it was,
Speaker 2: and just now the fact that they've been here a
Speaker 2: second time around, and then you have a safe one Barkley
Speaker 2: and have a defense and now watch while we're recording this,
Speaker 2: they probably lost thirty one to ten.
Speaker 1: Or something like that. We're gonna pretend that we're correct
Speaker 1: as of right now. Just let everybody know as we
Speaker 1: get into kind of our twenty twenty five thinking. All
Speaker 1: of our consensus rankings and tiers as they're updated throughout
Speaker 1: the offseason can be found at fantasypros dot com slash rankings. Again,
Speaker 1: we are taping this early, so we're kind of a
Speaker 1: you know, if there's any stuff that happens between now
Speaker 1: and the Super Bowl, any news updates that would change
Speaker 1: any of these. You know, this is early the week
Speaker 1: before that game. Let's dive in. We're going to go
Speaker 1: six to one from each analyst, going from kind of
Speaker 1: least confident to most confident free agency predictions, picking a
Speaker 1: player where we think they're going to end up. We
Speaker 1: can pick players that are going to stay with their
Speaker 1: same team, so you might see some of that, but
Speaker 1: you'll also see some players jumping around in our predictions. Jake,
Speaker 1: let's start with you as the guest, your number six prediction.
Speaker 1: What do you got?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Sam Darnald leaving the Vikings, and I
Speaker 2: have Sam Darnold in my mind. Of what are the
Speaker 2: options you've heard Jets, Giants and stuff, like that going
Speaker 2: back to the Jets. But I think there's a team
Speaker 2: that makes a lot of sense that doesn't seem to
Speaker 2: get a lot of attention, And it's possibly because what
Speaker 2: people are thinking draft wise, I shouldever Sanders falls to
Speaker 2: the Raiders, But I actually think if you're bringing a
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll's not coming in with a ten
Speaker 2: year plan or even a seven year plan or even
Speaker 2: a five year plan. Pete Carroll's coming in to turn
Speaker 2: this organization around hopefully in one year, maybe two at
Speaker 2: the most. And I think Sam donald actually profile is
Speaker 2: a lot like what is a Pete Carroll quarterback? Hint hint,
Speaker 2: there's another player that I have going to the Raiders
Speaker 2: and try to get that quick turnaround. And I think
Speaker 2: if you're looking with the Raiders' situation is in and
Speaker 2: having the money to be able to do this and
Speaker 2: not hope that one of the two quarterbacks falls to them,
Speaker 2: to being Ward and Sanders, I think Sam Donald to
Speaker 2: the Raiders makes a lot of sense. And I initially
Speaker 2: thought the Vikings might pull the franchise just because JJ
Speaker 2: McCarthy might not, but you ready for week one. But
Speaker 2: the more we look into it and here beat reporters
Speaker 2: covering the Vikings. It sounds like they don't want to
Speaker 2: invest that much money even for a one year deal,
Speaker 2: given the way that their roster is constructed. So I
Speaker 2: think Sam Donald to the Raiders would be my and
Speaker 2: it's my least confident, but I'm still pretty confident in it.
Speaker 1: Would you feel confident ranking Sam Donald if this happens,
Speaker 1: would you be interested in investing in him? In fantasy?
Speaker 1: I mean, if they don't take a quarterback with that
Speaker 1: early pick, maybe they take like a Teed McMillan or
Speaker 1: some other kind of pass catcher for Vegas at number
Speaker 1: six overall, and then you've got brock Bauers, You've got
Speaker 1: you know, Jacoby Myers. Is that at a situation to
Speaker 1: be interested in Sam Darnald's stepping into.
Speaker 3: Sam Darnald?
Speaker 2: And in that situation would fall too. So right now, lean over,
Speaker 2: I'm looking to I have my way to early rankings.
Speaker 2: I've been working on those for the day after the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, which are already out now because technically this
Speaker 2: is but I had Donald just around sixteen seventeen, assuming
Speaker 2: he was back with the Vikings, I would knock him
Speaker 2: down to probably like the two tear the tier because
Speaker 2: it's still the Raiders. If they draft McMillan, that'd be great.
Speaker 2: But I go back to the Pete Carroll thing, is
Speaker 2: the Pete Carroll offense is still going to be more
Speaker 2: run balanced, handt hint again, And I just think that
Speaker 2: this would be a little bit more conservative game plan
Speaker 2: than what you see with the Vikings. And it's not Jefferson,
Speaker 2: and yeah, I mean I love McMillan, but it's not
Speaker 2: Jefferson and Addison and all the rest. It's a rookie.
Speaker 2: And you know, Jacoby Myers brock Bowers probably put a
Speaker 2: tier below Fitz.
Speaker 1: What do you think about this potential match?
Speaker 3: I like it, and I like Jake's reasoning on the
Speaker 3: Pete Carroll thing. It does maybe make more sense for
Speaker 3: the Raiders to go out and get a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 3: Actually be pretty bullish on that as a landing spot, like,
Speaker 3: I think it might bode well for Donald's fantasy value
Speaker 3: because the Raiders' new offensive coordinator, Chip Kelly, really likes
Speaker 3: to push the pace. Donald would probably be among the
Speaker 3: league leaders in pass attempts. I would imagine in a
Speaker 3: Chip Kelly offense, So you know, to me, that might
Speaker 3: put him like high end QB two.
Speaker 1: Territory fit's what's your number six prediction?
Speaker 3: Chris Godwin to the Cardinals now? As well as Jalen
Speaker 3: McMillan played for the Buccaneers down the stretch last season,
Speaker 3: it seems unlikely that Godwin would stay with the Buccaneers.
Speaker 3: Can we get the Cardinals a real slot receiver, one
Speaker 3: not named Rondell Moore or Greg Dortsch. I know Godwin
Speaker 3: is coming off a significant foot injury, but he wouldn't
Speaker 3: need to be a ten targeted game guy on a
Speaker 3: team that already has Trey McBride at tight end and
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior as an outside receiver. The Cardinals have
Speaker 3: a lot of salary cap space, fourth most I think
Speaker 3: according to over the Cap, So Kyler Murray is McBride
Speaker 3: a tight end, Harrison Junior and Michael Wilson as the
Speaker 3: outside receivers, and Chris Godwin in the slot. That's a
Speaker 3: pretty nice group, and with that sort of pass catching arsenal,
Speaker 3: I think it would be fair for the Cardinals to
Speaker 3: make twenty twenty five a sort of referendum season for
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. He still has a few years left on
Speaker 3: his contract before. The Cardinals have to or have some
Speaker 3: sort of reasonable escape patch. But if Kyler can't get
Speaker 3: it done with a McBride Godwin Harrison trio, maybe it's
Speaker 3: time to start drawing up some sort of succession plans
Speaker 3: at the QB position.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jake, what would your reaction be to seeing this
Speaker 1: kind of fit?
Speaker 2: Well, there goes my excitement about Marvin Harrison being in
Speaker 2: top twenty next year. I'm in for Marvin Harrison as
Speaker 2: a by low off of what happened this past season,
Speaker 2: but I think you bring in Godwin and the biggest
Speaker 2: concern you have for Kyler Murray is the same. This
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with this conversation, but when I
Speaker 2: was talking about Bryce Young on podcast earlier this year
Speaker 2: and the fact that's return coincided with what Bryce s youong,
Speaker 2: but also Kyler Murray and Drew Brees years ago. What
Speaker 2: they need is they need slot options, reliable slot options,
Speaker 2: because you have to work the pocket different when you're short.
Speaker 2: It's a real thing. Like hype matters, and it also
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. But when it does matter is you have
Speaker 2: to work and find lanes to throw to instead of
Speaker 2: throwing over what you can see with the offensive line
Speaker 2: standing in front of you, which a Chris Godwin would
Speaker 2: be perfect for Kyler Murray. And that's where I go
Speaker 2: to it is if you have Kyler with Godwin and
Speaker 2: McBride and Marvin Harrison. I actually feel like Marvion Harrison
Speaker 2: might be the least valuable of them, so I like
Speaker 2: to fit, but I feel bad for Marvin Harrison.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I would be much more optimistic about what
Speaker 1: it does for Kyler than I would be for any
Speaker 1: of these receivers, right, I mean that's I would be
Speaker 1: more interested in Kyler than I and I am right
Speaker 1: now in terms of drafting him for next season. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: So number five might not be super exciting for people
Speaker 2: to hear, but I feel like this is a good
Speaker 2: fit and what the Chargers are doing at running back
Speaker 2: and what is a team similar to what you just
Speaker 2: saw last year as a team that might take a
Speaker 2: chance on somebody coming off an injury and give him
Speaker 2: what he could do and also understanding might not be
Speaker 2: ready to be one hundred percent at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the season. And I think Nick Chubb looking for a
Speaker 2: new team next year, fits with like the harball what
Speaker 2: we just saw with Dobbins. Maybe he's big in the
Speaker 2: second half of the season, and I don't think he'd
Speaker 2: be the other solution, the only solution, I should say.
Speaker 2: But if you JK. Dobbins a free agent, and I
Speaker 2: could see the Chargers saying, you know what, it's great
Speaker 2: that you vidalize your career. He goes. Dobbins goes for
Speaker 2: hopefully a big contract on his end, but the Chargers
Speaker 2: are like, well, then we'll let you have that. Because
Speaker 2: I'm Harball, I'm Roman like, we can do things with
Speaker 2: other running backs and get Chubb on the cheap. So
Speaker 2: I could see that as a good fit for him,
Speaker 2: because it's hard to find too many teams where you
Speaker 2: can find a team that can wait and be patient
Speaker 2: also give a spot for Nick Chubb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought this is a really good fit, and
Speaker 1: especially the point you made about we just saw this
Speaker 1: a year ago with him taking on JK. Dobbins and
Speaker 1: being willing to take a chance on a guy coming
Speaker 1: off like a very crushing injury. Seeing it happen again,
Speaker 1: I don't think we'd be surprising at all, especially just
Speaker 1: giving kind of the culture of this team fits Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb on the Chargers. Would you like that or not?
Speaker 3: I would, Although my dream is Ashton Genty somehow falling
Speaker 3: to the Chargers, but I don't think he's probably gonna
Speaker 3: fall that into the first round.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like.
Speaker 3: It, And hopefully we see a different and more effective
Speaker 3: Nick Schubb this fall, when he'll be nearly two full
Speaker 3: years removed from that devastating injury because he just didn't
Speaker 3: have the same jeus last year. But then again, I
Speaker 3: don't know if a lot of us expected him to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your number five prediction? Fits?
Speaker 3: I'm going to go with Stefan Diggs to the Patriots.
Speaker 3: The Patriots are just so thin at wide receiver that
Speaker 3: they will probably have to sign at least one and
Speaker 3: draft at least one. But New England does have a
Speaker 3: vast fortune to spend in free agency, So let's send
Speaker 3: Diggs back to the AFC East, but this time in
Speaker 3: New England instead of Buffalo. And when Diggs joined the
Speaker 3: Bills in twenty twenty, he helped Josh Allen become a superstar.
Speaker 3: Like that was the breakthrough season for Josh Allen. In
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, Allen had three thousand passing yards twenty TD passes.
Speaker 3: Then Digs showed up in Buffalo and in twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: Allen had forty five hundred passing yards thirty seven TV passes,
Speaker 3: So maybe Diggs can help. Drake may make a similar
Speaker 3: leap from toolesy prospect to NFL star, And of course
Speaker 3: I realized different circumstances. Now, Diggs was twenty six when
Speaker 3: he signed with the Bills in twenty twenty. Now he's
Speaker 3: thirty one and coming off the torn ACL But he
Speaker 3: should be ready to go early in the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five season, if not for the start of it. And
Speaker 3: I think a crafty rot runner like Diggs would be
Speaker 3: a pretty good fit for Josh McDaniel's system in New England.
Speaker 1: Fits just kind of been talking through these first few
Speaker 1: names and looking at the names that are still to
Speaker 1: come on this show. It's a lot of guys on
Speaker 1: the wrong side of thirty. It's a lot of guys
Speaker 1: coming off injuries. Do you see this as a weak
Speaker 1: free agency class overall?
Speaker 3: I mean overall or are we just talking about wide
Speaker 3: receiver in general?
Speaker 1: Just overall? Do you view it as a strong free
Speaker 1: agency class where you can if you're an NFL team,
Speaker 1: you can pluggle out of holes and there's exciting, you know,
Speaker 1: opportunities for new guys for fantasy or is it just
Speaker 1: kind of a down like, less exciting class in general.
Speaker 3: I mean for skill players, it's probably a down class
Speaker 3: like they're not Look how many running backs change teams,
Speaker 3: although I rallied some of them more trades. But I
Speaker 3: know last year was a pretty good running back free
Speaker 3: agent class. It just it does seem like it's a
Speaker 3: lot of guys on the wrong part of the bell
Speaker 3: curve as far as their career arct wide receiver and
Speaker 3: you know, not a not a real great draft class
Speaker 3: at wide receiver. Running Backs can be interesting because the
Speaker 3: running back market has been pretty soft in free agency
Speaker 3: the last few years, and now we've got this monster
Speaker 3: class coming in. I forget who said it, but I
Speaker 3: remember someone mentioning on Twitter that they thought it was
Speaker 3: basically the talent of two running back classes packed into
Speaker 3: one class. And so I don't know what guys like
Speaker 3: Jalen Warren are going to find when they hit the
Speaker 3: open market, you know. So, yeah, I mean, it's not
Speaker 3: a real lustrous free agent crop, at least for fantasy managers.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of those running backs, Jake, what's your next prediction?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the hint is here. Now, remember four Najee Harris
Speaker 2: to the Raiders, go back to the Pete Carroll situation.
Speaker 2: If you're looking for somebody who has a lot of
Speaker 2: the makeup of a Kenneth Walker, who can you know
Speaker 2: Walker was brought in with Pete Carroll there. I think
Speaker 2: that there's similarities and that pretty good pass catchers, but
Speaker 2: really good between the tackles. And I know the complaints
Speaker 2: and fantasy for us was that, oh it's you know,
Speaker 2: volume and Jim and Warren looks better. Why don't they
Speaker 2: give more to war But the fact is Naje Harris
Speaker 2: still a really good running back. It's just has some limitations,
Speaker 2: not everybody who's on the tier of Saquon Barkley and
Speaker 2: the rest. So I think the fit of again what
Speaker 2: the Raiders are trying to do here is Amir White
Speaker 2: that wasn't not anything this year, That backfield had some
Speaker 2: with a Mire Abdul at the end of the season,
Speaker 2: and Alex Theren Madison is not the answer. So I
Speaker 2: think this is really Pete Carroll coming in, like I said,
Speaker 2: trying to remake this team quickly and say, you know,
Speaker 2: let's get one more playoff run, hopefully in my career
Speaker 2: at the end of it. Actually go back to something
Speaker 2: though fit said before, and I think that old chip
Speaker 2: Kelly this is where it does great. Like old chip Kelly,
Speaker 2: I would agree, I think the Ohio State chip Kelly
Speaker 2: might be a little bit more run heavy, especially and
Speaker 2: I know he had Henderson and Judekins and that was
Speaker 2: a big factor that. But I just think that you
Speaker 2: might get a little bit more balanced with chip Kelly
Speaker 2: and that being Naje Harris end a piece, whether it
Speaker 2: continues to be Madison as part of that piece, or
Speaker 2: Abdullah or maybe they draft somebody. Because you are right,
Speaker 2: this is a ridiculous draft class for running backs. I
Speaker 2: think Naje Harris and Sam Darnell would do a lot
Speaker 2: for the Raiders and then they can address the other
Speaker 2: side of the ball more so in the draft too.
Speaker 2: And free agency. To go back to your question, he
Speaker 2: asked fits. Unfortunately, defense is actually that's the answers if
Speaker 2: you needed answers on defense. The free agent class is
Speaker 2: good there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really like this fit with Harris to the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I was looking at our early twenty twenty five consensus
Speaker 1: rankings and Harris is RB twenty five. He's at the
Speaker 1: top of tier five. Or see me, he's rbly twenty seven,
Speaker 1: he's at the top of Tier five. I will definitely
Speaker 1: be ranking him higher than that if he goes to
Speaker 1: the Raiders, just knowing we know about Pete Carroll and
Speaker 1: the opportunity that's there in this offense. I like this
Speaker 1: fit a lot fits. What do you think about it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he can be Pete Carroll's mark. Shawn Lynch
Speaker 3: and I know a lot of people wanted to make
Speaker 3: Sincere McCormick a thing in fantasy late last year. They
Speaker 3: do have him under contract very cheaply for twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: but you can't go into the twenty twenty five season
Speaker 3: with Sincere McCormick as your number one running back. So
Speaker 3: Nasee isn't the flashiest dude, but he is a pretty
Speaker 3: reliable male carrier and catches passes ultra durable. Hasn't missed
Speaker 3: a single game in his four NFL season, so I
Speaker 3: would be on board with this.
Speaker 1: He'll be twenty seven in March, so obviously that'll be
Speaker 1: his age for all of next season. If he goes
Speaker 1: to the Raiders. Fits put a number to it. Where
Speaker 1: do you think you'd have him ranked? Obviously it's really
Speaker 1: early in that process. But if you had to guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, still probably low end RB two, like somewhere in
Speaker 3: the RB twenty three range.
Speaker 1: Maybe does that sound right to you?
Speaker 2: I go a little bit higher, like I'm looking right
Speaker 2: now at my ranks. Is funny as you said twenty seven,
Speaker 2: twenty seven, whereas I have him checked in, not knowing
Speaker 2: where he would go, but looking at names that I
Speaker 2: have right now, like Kenneth Walker's at eighteen, and I'd
Speaker 2: probably take him over Kenneth Walker, knowing the split that's
Speaker 2: with Seattle again, Montgomery's at twenty right now. Again this
Speaker 2: is my rankings. There's another name that I'll say because
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about him at twenty one right now.
Speaker 2: But it's a lot of shared backfields, some uncertainty where
Speaker 2: I just know the volume that he would probably get
Speaker 2: here three hundred touches, So I'd say mid RB two,
Speaker 2: not that far from fits, but a little bit more aggressive.
Speaker 1: Kind of last question on this range of running backs fits.
Speaker 1: Obviously ashon genty we would expect to be ranked higher
Speaker 1: than this, like pretty much irrespective of his landing spot
Speaker 1: for some of those other guys in this class that
Speaker 1: we keep talking about is super strong. Let's use Najie
Speaker 1: Harris theoretically on the Raiders as a barometer. Do you
Speaker 1: think guys like with Marion Hampton and Traveon Henderson and
Speaker 1: Judkins are or whoever it is that you're is kind
Speaker 1: of your RB two de jure? Would they be ranked
Speaker 1: ahead of Harris for you? Or are they all kind
Speaker 1: of be gonna behind him? And depending on landing spot.
Speaker 3: I'm a big o Marian Hampton fan, so I would
Speaker 3: probably have him ahead of Nausey and then like I'm
Speaker 3: the Ohio State guys and maybe some of the other
Speaker 3: guys because someone lands in the dream spot. If someone
Speaker 3: lands on the Chargers, for instance, which might be the
Speaker 3: most attractive setup for any rookie running back, I might
Speaker 3: put them ahead of Najee Harris. But so far only
Speaker 3: I think Genty and Hampton right now?
Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on that, Jake, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure how much you've dived into the class yet.
Speaker 2: No, that's actually the next thing after the free agents,
Speaker 2: is what I'm always doing. But I and I have
Speaker 2: some of my early rookie run running back rankings, and
Speaker 2: I so to give you an idea, I have Genty
Speaker 2: inside my top ten. But then as of doing my
Speaker 2: preseason ranking their offseason rankings, I have Hampton, Johnson, Henderson,
Speaker 2: and Judkins all back to back to back to back.
Speaker 2: Ye kind of too well to your point right now,
Speaker 2: they're in the mid twenties, because it's they could end
Speaker 2: up in a spot where they'll jump inside the top twenty,
Speaker 2: even pushing top fifteen like you know Fits brought up,
Speaker 2: maybe would if genty doesn't go to the Cowboys like
Speaker 2: everybody expects, one of them goes to the Cowboys, so
Speaker 2: you can see that, or you can see some of
Speaker 2: them end up in time shares. So I think any
Speaker 2: of those four, in my opinion, could be fringe RB
Speaker 2: one's top end RB twos, but all four of them
Speaker 2: could also be time shares and kind of like a
Speaker 2: lowen RB two RB three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be similar to like Sharbona where coming
Speaker 1: in there was a lot of interest in him and
Speaker 1: then he goes to Seattle and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: dal he's nuked. All right, fits, what's your number four prediction?
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins to the Chargers, And it's it's kind of
Speaker 3: hard to figure out exactly where some of these veteran
Speaker 3: outside receivers are going to Land in free agency. T
Speaker 3: Higgins is the headliner, of course, but then you've got Hopkins,
Speaker 3: digs Amari Cooper. We were just talking about the age
Speaker 3: thing and how some of these guys are maybe on
Speaker 3: the wrong side of the age bell curve for wide receivers.
Speaker 3: But there are quite a few teams that could use
Speaker 3: a veteran outside receiver. The Patriots, the Steelers, the Commanders,
Speaker 3: the Panthers, the Raiders, the Titans, But not a lot
Speaker 3: of those teams are ready to contend for a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: One team that I think could contend for a Super
Speaker 3: Bowl appearance and needs a veteran outside receiver the Chargers.
Speaker 3: So Hopkins is going into his age thirty three season
Speaker 3: probably only has another bite or two at the apple.
Speaker 3: Let's put DeAndre Hopkins on the ascendant Chargers and let
Speaker 3: him finish his career with Justin Herbert, an ultra talented
Speaker 3: quarterback who's just entering his prime. Chargers already have the
Speaker 3: terrific Lad McConkie in the slot, but they are weak
Speaker 3: in the outside. I think Quinton Johnston has been obviously
Speaker 3: pretty inconsistent and drop prone. He may never become the
Speaker 3: players player the Chargers hoped he would be so signed
Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins, draft a tight end in the first round,
Speaker 3: either Tyler Warren or more likely since he played with
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaught Michigan, Colston Loveland, and draft another outside receiver
Speaker 3: on Day three is a developmental prospect. Chargers have some
Speaker 3: money to spend in free agency. I don't think they'd
Speaker 3: have to break the bank for a receiver who's in
Speaker 3: the twilight of his career. I just I think this
Speaker 3: pairing makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is funny to think about, Like, Oh, DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: the guy who wants to get a ring. He may
Speaker 1: be coming off a Super Bowl victory as at the
Speaker 1: time this episode drops, but we don't know quite yet.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins in La Jake, Do you like that fit?
Speaker 1: I like the fit.
Speaker 2: I don't love it for fantasy. I think this is
Speaker 2: going to be a situation. And I had nothing to
Speaker 2: do with Justin Herbert, But I think Justin Herbert in
Speaker 2: now the Harball slash Roman offense isn't the Herbert where
Speaker 2: we were thinking, Oh, forty five hundred yards and thirty
Speaker 2: plus touchdown shipy in play every single season. I think
Speaker 2: Lad McConkie is the answer and the worst scenario about
Speaker 2: it is I agree with Fitz. I love it Draft
Speaker 2: Loveland too, but now it's like, the only person I'm
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Speaker 2: now is it's basically touchdown our bus most week. So
Speaker 2: I like the fit for real life. Fantasy wise, it
Speaker 2: would be pretty much no interest.
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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we're into our top three predictions here
Speaker 1: for free agency twenty twenty five. Jake, what's your number three? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I felt really good about this. After Ben Standig over
Speaker 2: The Athletic wrote up something and was talking about the
Speaker 2: commander's offseason plans, and one of them was the name
Speaker 2: that I was about to say, and I was talking
Speaker 2: about this a few weeks ago. This has been I
Speaker 2: feel so good about this, like I'll get a victory lap.
Speaker 2: The heck out of this have happened. I was like,
Speaker 2: look at the commanders. They need a number two wide receiver.
Speaker 2: There's no question about it. And if you look at it,
Speaker 2: Noah Brown, Diami Brown, Zekias, I think at least two
Speaker 2: or three of them are two out of the three,
Speaker 2: even possibly all three are unrestricted free agents. I don't
Speaker 2: remember Noah Brown's exactly, but I think it might be
Speaker 2: all three. But they need an answer because of those three,
Speaker 2: nobody was the true answer anyway. And I was like
Speaker 2: a lot of people want to say, maybe Hopkins, maybe
Speaker 2: they do something differently another slot, and I was just
Speaker 2: looking at Terry McLaurin, who kind of plays not a
Speaker 2: true big slot, but kind of that range where he
Speaker 2: can move around. And I was saying, if you want
Speaker 2: to really unleash things for jayde and Daniels, I know
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper was the other name that was thrown out
Speaker 2: by Ben, But the name that I was throwing out
Speaker 2: that he also included was Hollywood Brown. You get that
Speaker 2: deep Bowl opened up too for Jaydon Daniels, as we've
Speaker 2: already seen with McLaurin, but even more so with Hollywood
Speaker 2: Brown and the real important thing that he brought up.
Speaker 2: And I know he's not the best. Actually this is
Speaker 2: one area that Cooper is better than he is, but
Speaker 2: they're both decent and is you also want somebody the
Speaker 2: reason they went the Noah Brown route as somebody who
Speaker 2: can block as a number two wide receiver if needed,
Speaker 2: And Hollywood Brown is definitely not the worst. And I
Speaker 2: think he's just a really nice fit and checks all
Speaker 2: the boxes, but also checks the boxes where probably doesn't
Speaker 2: command as much as Cooper does in free agency and
Speaker 2: being younger, but also coming off the injury just recently.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of factors here. Maybe he's coming
Speaker 2: off a Super Bowl win and a Super Bowl rang,
Speaker 2: but I think he just fits all the boxes where
Speaker 2: the commanders can also address other issues and not go
Speaker 2: too heavy like Cooper would command.
Speaker 1: Fitz, what do you think about the fit of Hollywood
Speaker 1: Brown next to Terry McLaurin in that offense?
Speaker 3: I like, I mean, durability obviously a big concern with
Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown, but giving Jade and Daniels a vertical receiver,
Speaker 3: especially with the way Jade and Daniels can buy time
Speaker 3: with his mobility. Good luck staying with Hollywood Brown for
Speaker 3: five seconds if Jade Daniels gets loose and starts scrambling around.
Speaker 3: So that is an exciting pairing. It's just one of
Speaker 3: these years. We need a fully healthy season from Hollywood Brown,
Speaker 3: especially when he's potentially paired with a good quarterback. That
Speaker 3: would be fun to see. Just got to keep this.
Speaker 2: Oh and the other thing too, sorry to jump back in.
Speaker 2: I was so excited about this, I forgot too the
Speaker 2: other reason I was tying this together. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury with the Cardinals had Hollywood Brown good points
Speaker 2: the connection there too as well.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. It's so funny. It's just just
Speaker 1: how quickly some of these, like long term morabound franchises,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, become really attractive landing spots for players.
Speaker 1: Just get the young core saw with the Texans a
Speaker 1: year ago, we're seeing with the Commanders this offseason. I expect,
Speaker 1: just get the good exciting quarter back in talent we'll
Speaker 1: want to flock there. So I like this fit a
Speaker 1: lot too. Fits Your number three free agency prediction is
Speaker 1: one that we've talked about in a couple of shows
Speaker 1: here already, so I was not surprised to see you
Speaker 1: include it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jake started the game of quarterback musical chairs with
Speaker 3: Sam Darnold to the Raiders, Let's put Justin Fields on
Speaker 3: the Jets. So the Jets do need some sort of
Speaker 3: plan B at quarterback in case Aaron Rodgers calls it quits.
Speaker 3: They're picking seventh in the draft, where they're pretty unlikely
Speaker 3: to get the quarterback of their choosing, and even if
Speaker 3: Rogers doesn't call it quits, signing Field Fields might still
Speaker 3: make some sense. He's probably not going to command an
Speaker 3: exorbitant salary after being a backup last year. I could
Speaker 3: potentially serve as a backup for one more season or
Speaker 3: for as long as the Aaron Rodgers New York Jets
Speaker 3: marriage can last. And that would also reunite Justin Fields
Speaker 3: with Garrett Wilson, his old teammate at Ohio State. Wilson
Speaker 3: seemed pretty unhappy by the end of last season. This
Speaker 3: might be a good way to keep up his morale,
Speaker 3: and I still think Fields can be an above average
Speaker 3: starting quarterback. He has a good arm, he's extremely mobile.
Speaker 3: His biggest flaw as an NFL QB so far is
Speaker 3: that he just takes too many sacks. So if Fields
Speaker 3: can get better at sack a voidance. I mean, now
Speaker 3: we're cooking with gas.
Speaker 1: What would you do with the rest of the players
Speaker 1: in this offense? Fits If let's say Rogers is not
Speaker 1: there just for the sake of argument, Fields is their
Speaker 1: week one starter. Are you bumping up Breese Hall? Are
Speaker 1: you bumping up Garrett Wilson just because he'll be happier?
Speaker 1: Are you maybe bumping them down? Actually because like you know,
Speaker 1: you know, Fields doesn't have the most the best history
Speaker 1: of accuracy. Like, what are you doing with these other players?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Probably status quote for everyone, but Garrett Wilson. I
Speaker 3: would have to give him.
Speaker 1: A bomp Okay Fields to the Jets, Jake, do you
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 2: Fantasy wise? It's funny that in my mind the best
Speaker 2: fantasy solution is the Jets for a lot of reasons
Speaker 2: for quarterbacks, but I would go for and this was
Speaker 2: rumored when we're doing this show, but the whole like
Speaker 2: sae Quon Barkley being like, hey, Jamis, why don't you
Speaker 2: go sign with the Giants and to the New York teams.
Speaker 2: I would rather Winston go to the Jets, too, So
Speaker 2: it's whether Winston Fields or whoever it might be. Even
Speaker 2: though I don't think they're going to reconnect with Darnold,
Speaker 2: I think anybody that's with the Jets, if it's no
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, I think would be a positive for us
Speaker 2: in fantasy. So I would like Fields there. I think
Speaker 2: he deserves another chance in the NFL. But I would
Speaker 2: like a lot of quarterbacks. Is my point here is
Speaker 2: that I would like a lot of them if they
Speaker 2: ended up with the Jets giving their weapons.
Speaker 1: Jake, let's stick with you for your number two free
Speaker 1: agency prediction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. Maybe this one's a little bit wish casting,
Speaker 2: but I'm sending T Higgins to the Jaguars because again,
Speaker 2: connections being made. Look, we have Liam Cullen coming in
Speaker 2: two ball, and then we've already heard at this time
Speaker 2: it might have happened the offensive coordinator quarterbacks coach over
Speaker 2: with the Rams. I'm not going to try and pronounce
Speaker 2: this last name is like shelle Hazy or something like whatever.
Speaker 2: If that happened, you get the passing game narrowed down
Speaker 2: a lot to a third option, but a very aggressive
Speaker 2: passing game coming from McVeigh. But going back to this
Speaker 2: is like, if you're going to get Trevor Lawrence to work,
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis is not the answer. Christian Kirk can't stay healthy,
Speaker 2: similar to the Hollywood Brown situation. I think he's better
Speaker 2: served at this point just being the number three answer.
Speaker 2: So what's the answer at number two? The Jaguars have money,
Speaker 2: as we know, you bring T Higgins. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: what was the best Trevor Lawrence we've ever seen college?
Speaker 2: Who is he playing with in college?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: T Higgins. Let's put them back together. Let's open up
Speaker 2: this offense with Brian Thomas T Higgins and get Trevor
Speaker 2: Lawrence to that generational talent that we were all wrong
Speaker 2: about so far to this point of his career. I
Speaker 2: know a lot of people want to put T Higgins
Speaker 2: in New England, and it makes sense because of all
Speaker 2: their money. But I think that if I'm T Higgins
Speaker 2: just thinking this again, I go play with Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2: Liam Cohen's a hot name. I see him as the
Speaker 2: head coach. I see the Jaguars as much as things
Speaker 2: have gone wrong. If you told me which roster looks
Speaker 2: closer to it actually contending roster. I would say Jaguars
Speaker 2: over the Patriots, just in my opinion. So I think
Speaker 2: there's a lot that could go right with the Jaguars
Speaker 2: with the right coaching staff and the right pieces put
Speaker 2: in place, and I think one of them is T Higgins.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm mad at myself that when I saw you
Speaker 1: put this in the show sheet, te Higgins the Jags,
Speaker 1: that my first thought wasn't their reunion with Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: Like my thought was, oh Liam Cohen, like maybe he
Speaker 1: can use in the same way as Mike Evans, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about the Clemson connections. So that's
Speaker 1: that now seems very obvious now that you mentioned it.
Speaker 1: But I love that a fit in that regard fits.
Speaker 1: You know, T Higgins is like the crown jewel of
Speaker 1: this class. You know, I talked about how maybe it's
Speaker 1: a kind of a down free agency class. It is
Speaker 1: not the case with T Higgins. You know, he's obviously
Speaker 1: a very talented player when he's on the field. Is
Speaker 1: the Jaguars to you the best landing spot for T
Speaker 1: Higgins or is there another team that if you were
Speaker 1: picking a prediction for TA you would have gone with.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not the Patriots, Jake, the team that test probably
Speaker 3: needs a wide receiver and has the most salary caps
Speaker 3: face in the league. Can't we can't we throw Drake
Speaker 3: may a bone here? No, like Jim Hopkins. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean Jake's Jake's reasoning makes a lot of sense, and
Speaker 3: this could help fully unlock Trevor Lawrence and the t
Speaker 3: Higgins Lawrence pairing would be really cool. And suddenly this,
Speaker 3: you know, looks a little bit like the Joe Burrow,
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase t Higgins triumvirate in Cincinnati. I just the
Speaker 3: only thing is when Jake and I did the show
Speaker 3: a few weeks ago where we were talking about like
Speaker 3: who we've got as first round picks next year, I
Speaker 3: think both of us had Brian Thomas Junior inside round one.
Speaker 3: I think those are pretty much knock Brian Thomas Junior
Speaker 3: out of round one.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is painful for me, Like I said, I
Speaker 2: got the sign football right behind me, like as a
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior person, like I want it and don't
Speaker 2: want it at the same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I in this scenario would be really hoping to
Speaker 1: get assuming the hype isn't too much for him. I
Speaker 1: would be hoping to get Trevor Lawrence in a lot
Speaker 1: of my leagues if he's thrown at both those you
Speaker 1: guys with Liam Cohen as head coach, that would be
Speaker 1: super fun, at least for the quarterback perspective. Fits What
Speaker 1: is your number prediction?
Speaker 3: This is certainly not as sexy as t Higgins to
Speaker 3: the Jaguars, but Amari Cooper to the Steelers. The Steelers
Speaker 3: badly need more firepower at wide receiver. They still don't
Speaker 3: know what they have in Roman Wilson, their third round
Speaker 3: pick from last year. They brought in Mike Williams during
Speaker 3: the season. He didn't really offer much help and now
Speaker 3: he's going to be an unrestricted free agent again. The
Speaker 3: one blue chip asset the Steelers have at wide receiver
Speaker 3: right now is George Pickens, who is abundantly talented but
Speaker 3: also troublingly immature. Now, Amari Cooper's had a very good
Speaker 3: ten yure career. Sure, he's probably not the player he
Speaker 3: was in his prime, but still only thirty years old,
Speaker 3: and he did have a twelve hundred yard season in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. Also, I think Cooper could serve as
Speaker 3: sort of a role model for Pickins. By all account,
Speaker 3: Cooper has been a really good teammate wherever he's been,
Speaker 3: certainly not a diva type on the field. The Bills
Speaker 3: traded for Amari Cooper last year and then sort of
Speaker 3: grossly underutilized him Cooper complaint Like In the days before
Speaker 3: the Bills lost to the Chiefs in the AFC Championship Game,
Speaker 3: Cooper told the media he wasn't unhappy with his role
Speaker 3: and was just grateful to be on a winning team.
Speaker 3: So Mary Cooper would give the Steelers some much needed
Speaker 3: stability at wide receiver. He and Pickens both have X
Speaker 3: receiver wide receiver versatility. I think it's a pretty good match.
Speaker 1: Jake, what do you make of the disappointment from Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper after the trade to Buffalo. I was expecting a
Speaker 1: much bigger impact. It just fantasy production for the team
Speaker 1: on the field, non fantasy like all of it. I
Speaker 1: was expecting him to make a bigger difference than he did.
Speaker 2: I was too, honestly, mostly because Keon Coleman, we've seen
Speaker 2: the rawness there. We've seen like as much as I'm
Speaker 2: a secure guy, like, he's not the answer to be
Speaker 2: their number one. And it's funny as there was a
Speaker 2: lot of these, you know, looking through free agency, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, Mayo, who's the answer for the Bills And
Speaker 2: it just seems stylistically fit. Is the answer really comes
Speaker 2: down to is they don't need anybody to be like
Speaker 2: the guy. And I think that's just what happened, is
Speaker 2: that Cooper kind of had some redundancies to Shakiir, had
Speaker 2: some redundancies to everything else, and as Fitz said, he
Speaker 2: was just out there happy to be on a team
Speaker 2: and playing good football because it's that kind of guy.
Speaker 2: But I think it's just the Bills. We're just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't really have like we don't need to force
Speaker 2: you into the number one role. You can do what
Speaker 2: we do. And that's why I kind of steered away
Speaker 2: from them with a lot of the wide receiver predictions.
Speaker 2: It's just I don't maybe they grab one, but maybe
Speaker 2: lower level. I just don't know that they're in a
Speaker 2: place where they are concerned. Like Stephan Diggs when Fitz
Speaker 2: brought that up earlier, Stefan Diggs was the answer to
Speaker 2: help unlock Josh Allen early in his career. I think
Speaker 2: at this point it's now Josh Allen doesn't needed digs anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you make of Cooper and Pittsburgh, Jake?
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 2: I think it comes down to who the quarterback is.
Speaker 2: Even if it's Russ I wouldn't mind him as a
Speaker 2: four at this point of his career. But also just
Speaker 2: because Russell Wilson can do thirty two to thirty three
Speaker 2: hundred yards, but it's not going to be a high octan,
Speaker 2: high passing offense. So I like it. It would be
Speaker 2: okay for fantasy. It wouldn't be one of the best,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be one of the worst. So I think
Speaker 2: it's okay at least. Hey, it's better than anyone is
Speaker 2: with the Bills.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hard to be worse. Uh, all right, Jake, your
Speaker 1: number one free agency prediction for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, were supposed to be going from least to most confident,
Speaker 2: and admittedly, like Higgins is kind of like I'm like
Speaker 2: again wish casting that's the most confident. I'd probably put
Speaker 2: them lower down, but this is my most confident, most confident,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of boring for everybody out there in fantasy.
Speaker 2: But I think Aaron Jones return into the Vikings is
Speaker 2: just going to happen. You look at the Vikings now,
Speaker 2: I go back to the whole Sam Darnold's situation about
Speaker 2: the contracts and everything and how this roster is constructed.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe they try to wait and Aaron Jones
Speaker 2: happens after the draft, depending on if somebody fell to them.
Speaker 2: I could see the Vikings being like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: somebody blank is still on the board in the third
Speaker 2: round because how deep this draft class is, and maybe
Speaker 2: they pivot at that point. But I think that if
Speaker 2: you're looking to run most of everything back, and whether
Speaker 2: or not it's McCarthy is the answer week one or
Speaker 2: whatever it might be, I think they are just why
Speaker 2: not run everything back on the offense. There's not a
Speaker 2: whole lot of stuff that you can do to improve
Speaker 2: what you have there, And instead of going out one
Speaker 2: of them big names like Naje Harris, they don't need
Speaker 2: Naje Harris, they don't need to risk JK. Dobbins, and
Speaker 2: hopefully that it could be slightly better because Aaron Jones
Speaker 2: was good with the Vikings and he can be good again.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's just a very easy Let's
Speaker 2: just make everything work again. I think he's probably happy there,
Speaker 2: because why not?
Speaker 1: What do you think about this? On fits?
Speaker 3: I'd love to see Aaron Jones stay with the Vikings.
Speaker 3: I mean I say that as a Green Bay Packers
Speaker 3: fan who doesn't love seeing, you know, a great ex
Speaker 3: packer playing with the hated rival. But it just worked,
Speaker 3: like he thrived in Kevin O'Connell's system. Eleven hundred rushing
Speaker 3: yards fifty one catches, four hundred receiving yards. Aaron Jones
Speaker 3: even stayed healthy and didn't miss a game. So I'm
Speaker 3: with Jake, let's run it back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm counting now twelve double digit scoring
Speaker 1: games in half PPR for him this year? Where Jake,
Speaker 1: do you have Jones ranked in your way too early?
Speaker 2: Rankings twenty one low RB two like I would take
Speaker 2: Briest Hall and even the questions there above him. I
Speaker 2: would take Kenth Walker to go back to that split
Speaker 2: because similar splits, but Walker has a slightly higher ceiling.
Speaker 2: If there's one. Could he just stay healthy? Maybe this
Speaker 2: is the year that he finally does James Connor if
Speaker 2: he stays healthy. But James Connor, even if I only
Speaker 2: get twelve games, we've seen James Connor put up fringe
Speaker 2: RB one numbers, so it's Aaron Jones feels more like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I took a gamble at my other running back or
Speaker 2: I went wide receiver heavy, and that's where I'm going
Speaker 2: to be taking Aaron Jones is It's like, cool, I
Speaker 2: got my consistency, but I understand that there's going to
Speaker 2: be a limited ceiling.
Speaker 1: What do you think for a ranking fits.
Speaker 3: I think I'm pretty much right in line with Jake,
Speaker 3: but that's sort of baking in the uncertainty of his
Speaker 3: free agency and if he goes back to the Vikings,
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna tick him up a little bit to
Speaker 3: more mid few spots. Yeah, mid RB two range perhaps.
Speaker 1: All right, Fitz. You also, for your number one prediction,
Speaker 1: went with a guy staying with his team from this
Speaker 1: past year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not the most elegant prediction in the world,
Speaker 3: but like, I do feel about ninety five percent sure
Speaker 3: this is going to happen. It's zach Ertz staying with
Speaker 3: the Commanders, and like, I just feel like this one
Speaker 3: is a layup. Ertz is thirty four, but he says
Speaker 3: he is not going to retire, and why would he,
Speaker 3: Like he was fantastic for the Commanders down the stretch,
Speaker 3: seven touchdowns in his last ten games, eleven catches in
Speaker 3: one hundred and four yards against the Eagles in the
Speaker 3: NFC Championship Game. Ertz has talked about how he'd love
Speaker 3: to keep playing with Jayden Daniels, how he wishes he'd
Speaker 3: gotten to play with Daniels earlier in his career. The
Speaker 3: Commanders do have a pretty talented young tight ended Ben Sinnett,
Speaker 3: their second round pick from last year, but Sinnate had
Speaker 3: five catches during the regular season one catch in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: I don't know if the Commanders can count on him
Speaker 3: to play the sort of role that Ertz played this
Speaker 3: past season. So let's go one more time. Run it
Speaker 3: back with the old guy one more year. I don't
Speaker 3: think it would cost Washington a lot to re up
Speaker 3: with Zach Ertz for one final season. Commanders have a
Speaker 3: lot of cap space. This wouldn't be hard. Let's get
Speaker 3: it done.
Speaker 1: Jake, do you want to see this reunion for real life? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And actually I think, without looking, I think Bates is
Speaker 2: a free agent too, so they're gonna need They're not
Speaker 2: going to just run out with or not like that's
Speaker 2: their only tight end next year. So yeah, artz makes
Speaker 2: a lot of sense, and he's saying all the right things,
Speaker 2: and I think it's part of the like you might
Speaker 2: see him sign one of those early year deals of
Speaker 2: like a one year five million just to stick around
Speaker 2: with this team and understand what he had. So prediction wise, yeah,
Speaker 2: this would be a high confidence level, but not I
Speaker 2: fantasy excitement level.
Speaker 1: I will say I was surprised again and looking kind
Speaker 1: of at our early ECR that he's tight end twenty
Speaker 1: if he returns to Washington. I'm not sure where I
Speaker 1: want to passionately make the case to move him up
Speaker 1: too specifically, but I feel like twenties too low.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think it would well go ahead, Viz.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, like somewhere low low end
Speaker 3: tight end one, high end tight end two feels more right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be down here in the twenties, assuming
Speaker 2: something happens with the wide receiver two position. Now, if
Speaker 2: they run it back and just try to cobble together
Speaker 2: at the wide receiver two position with McCaffrey in a
Speaker 2: second season and maybe some discounts, then I could be
Speaker 2: more in on that. But you know, looking at it
Speaker 2: right now, I would take Loveland the rookie over him,
Speaker 2: just because it's ceiling, it's tight end, Like I don't
Speaker 2: want tight end fourteen, you know, and I could see
Speaker 2: him being tight end fourteen, Like I want somebody who
Speaker 2: can potentially be top seven. So I would take a
Speaker 2: chance on both the rookies. I would take a chance
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill stays healthy and runs back his insanity, like,
Speaker 2: but I think Ertz is Florville floors like, yeah, you're
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get tight end fifteen fourteen, But I just
Speaker 2: I'm not drafting tight end fourteen or fifteen.
Speaker 3: But I do think if you were going to punt
Speaker 3: the tight end position and not pay off, you could
Speaker 3: do worse than a combination of like Ertz and Loveland,
Speaker 3: like one kind of upside young guy.
Speaker 2: Well, then let me give you a question to you, like,
Speaker 2: would you, as of right now just the random one,
Speaker 2: sorry to jump in and ask her that no more,
Speaker 2: just like like because I have him ranked higher, would
Speaker 2: you go Cole Comet with the new offense or would
Speaker 2: you go Zach Kertz Because I would just take a
Speaker 2: chance that Comet with a new offense happened.
Speaker 3: I'd probably go for Comet too, with the way he
Speaker 3: made little portal work as a rookie, and I think
Speaker 3: Comett is really good and just kind of got buried
Speaker 3: in that offense this year.
Speaker 1: So Comet's tight end eighteen for the record in early
Speaker 1: ECR again, zach Ertz tight end twenty. We actually have
Speaker 1: a minute, Jake. You gave an extra prediction just in
Speaker 1: case there was overlap with Fits on Aaron Jones. It
Speaker 1: is about Javante. I actually kind of want to hear
Speaker 1: you weigh in on that one too, So we have
Speaker 1: a moment. So a special thirteenth here prediction for the show, A.
Speaker 2: Special thirteenth just in case Fits wanted to steal one
Speaker 2: of mine from me. Is trying to find an answer
Speaker 2: for where Javonte Williams might go. Yeah, like this is
Speaker 2: I'm looking down, I'm looking through the rosters and say,
Speaker 2: you know what, and you're asking this because we just
Speaker 2: brought up the Bears. Is Swift? Yeah, they spent on Swift,
Speaker 2: and but I think we've seen what we already knew
Speaker 2: is that Swift is not a bell cow. Swift has
Speaker 2: his limitations. Switch is cool, but Swift also probably better
Speaker 2: with a decent option next to him, and the roster
Speaker 2: as its constructed. I know people like Roshawn Johnson, but
Speaker 2: I just don't think that's working. I think they're getting
Speaker 2: what they want from him. I just don't think it's
Speaker 2: working to the level of what we expected. I was
Speaker 2: high on Roshan Johnson too to a degree. I expected
Speaker 2: more from him. But you take a flyer like Javonte Williams, flyer,
Speaker 2: he's not gonna cost much of anything. I would assume
Speaker 2: he gets a one year contract. But you take a
Speaker 2: roster that has you gotta look at Joonta Williams as
Speaker 2: in like probably a newer coach or a coach with
Speaker 2: a backfield that has questions that doesn't you know, I'd
Speaker 2: say maybe the Chargers are in play here too. Is
Speaker 2: just take a chance he's going to be cheap. Maybe
Speaker 2: you resurrect his career. I think the Bears are really
Speaker 2: nice fit for what he would bring alongside Swift and
Speaker 2: to that backfield with Kayleb Williams under bed Johnson.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to dis squeeze this thing because I
Speaker 1: just find Chavante so fascinating in where he lands and
Speaker 1: what my interest level is gonna be I. He's somebody
Speaker 1: that I similar to you, Jake. I think I would
Speaker 1: kind of struggle to pick like a perfect spot for him.
Speaker 1: So I'm really intriguing to see where he goes fits.
Speaker 1: I know you you loved Javante maybe more than anybody
Speaker 1: pre that injury a couple of years ago. What would
Speaker 1: you think about this fit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've said he's one of those guys who might
Speaker 3: go on my do not draft lists this year, but
Speaker 3: I think the Bears are actually a landing spot that
Speaker 3: could kind of rekindle interest. Because if the Bears did
Speaker 3: go out and sign anyone in free agency at running back,
Speaker 3: whether it was Javante or Jalen Warren, like you'd have
Speaker 3: to feel pretty excited about Ben Johnson telling Ryan Poles like,
Speaker 3: this guy would be a good fit for my system,
Speaker 3: let's go get him right and I'd do Montgomery, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: And I do wonder if DeAndre Swift is going to
Speaker 3: be that guy for Ben Johnson because he wasn't before.
Speaker 3: So yeah, like that that would definitely perk up my
Speaker 3: interest in Javante.
Speaker 1: All we gave everybody an extra prediction, so we'll wrap
Speaker 1: up there. Thanks everybody for tuning in thanks to Jake
Speaker 1: and Fitz for joining the ship. We will be back
Speaker 1: throughout the off season talk about other stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: when the free agency frenzy actually happens, will be reacting
Speaker 1: to that as well, so stick with us throughout the
Speaker 1: off season. For Jake and Fitz, I'm Ryan warmly thanks
Speaker 1: for tuning in. We'll see again next time and go birds.
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