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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at advocatesla dot com.

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Speaker 2: Meg is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a guy named James.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes, we're gonna call him and

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Speaker 2: see if I'll tell us why he's ghosting her and

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Speaker 2: maybe get her another date. But first, Meg, how long

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Speaker 2: has it been since you heard from James.

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Speaker 3: Here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: We live in the same building, so I actually saw him. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I know, so I see him in the elevator all

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Speaker 4: the time. So I actually saw him like this morning,

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Speaker 4: and uh, it's a little bit awkward just because of

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Speaker 4: all of this. So but I haven't heard, like, he

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Speaker 4: hasn't kind of followed up by a text or phone,

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Speaker 4: which is what I was kind of waiting for, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, did you reach out to him other than

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Speaker 1: seeing him in the elevator.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's so at the end of our date, which

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Speaker 4: went really well, by the way, so that's yeah, so

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Speaker 4: I was sort of expecting a call, and then this

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Speaker 4: morning when I saw him, I just kind of was like,

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Speaker 4: I have to say some things. I haven't heard from him.

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Speaker 4: So I just said like, hey, you know, do you

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Speaker 4: want to go for dinner sometime, and he basically said

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Speaker 4: I'll get back to you, which I feel like is

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Speaker 4: a bad sign.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, probably the past. Yeah, yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 4: But it was so great, Like we went to this

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Speaker 4: trivia night that he had been telling me about because

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Speaker 4: you know, I had seen him in the elevator. We'd

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Speaker 4: make small chat all the time. I actually have a

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Speaker 4: tiny confession that I would kind of plan to be

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Speaker 4: in the elevator when he was there. Yeah, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: if I keep running into this guy, so yeah, so

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Speaker 4: I like running into him and we were chatting and

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Speaker 4: he had told me with this trivia night, and then

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Speaker 4: finally he asked me out, which I was really psyched about,

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Speaker 4: and we just like had this great night. We even

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Speaker 4: went back to his place afterwards and we had a

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Speaker 4: great night cap and I don't want to be not PG. Thirteen,

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Speaker 4: but we had a pretty great kis at the end

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Speaker 4: of it. So so anyway, that's why I was totally

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Speaker 4: expecting to hear from him. So I don't know, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Know, well, did something happen, did anything actually go down

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Speaker 1: on the date that may have made it a little

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Speaker 1: bit awkward or that you felt like was a turning point.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's obviously I have been analyzing this for days

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Speaker 4: because it's all I can even get shirt.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, so the only thing.

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Speaker 4: So I started to go, Okay, maybe it was this

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Speaker 4: because like my sister, she's going through a bit of

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Speaker 4: a bad kind of breakup right now. She's a single mom,

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Speaker 4: so she's having a hard time. She did call me

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Speaker 4: a couple of times. Oh, it might have move been

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Speaker 4: like three or four times when we were on the date,

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Speaker 4: and I did answer because I just knew, you know,

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Speaker 4: I've got to answer. It's my sister, you know, she

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Speaker 3: The phone so much?

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Speaker 4: And then I'm like, if he did that to me, yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's it.

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Speaker 5: Did he say anything about it, or did he seem

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Speaker 3: Okay, full disclosure.

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Speaker 4: One of them may have come when we were kind

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Speaker 4: of making out a little bit, so I guess he

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Speaker 4: seemed a little annoyed when that got cut off, but

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Speaker 4: he didn't say anything. It was just kind of I

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Speaker 4: but he didn't say anything about it, Like he just

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Speaker 1: Did he know who you were talking to? Like, did

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Speaker 4: I mean, I told him it was, But now I'm thinking, like,

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Speaker 4: I was, you know, screwing away to talk to some

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Speaker 4: or something like? Now, I'm not sure because that's what

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Speaker 5: So, what was the last thing you texted him?

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Speaker 4: The last thing? Oh, the last So the last thing

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Speaker 4: I texted him was had a great time, you know, thanks,

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Speaker 4: thanks for the thanks for the night, because of course

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Speaker 4: he paid for dinner and you know everything. So I said,

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Speaker 4: that was after I left, and then I didn't hear

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Speaker 4: anything back from that, and then saw him in the

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Speaker 3: So that's where we're at.

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Speaker 5: That's awkward.

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Speaker 2: That's an awkward elevator, right, all right, we'll see if

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Speaker 2: we can figure it out for you. Then we'll play

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Speaker 2: a song come Back, and then call him and see

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Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why is ghosting you and maybe

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Speaker 2: get you another date?

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, all right, thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we play a song come Back here your first

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Speaker 2: day follow up next. If you're just joining us for

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Speaker 2: today's first Day follow up. Meg is on the phone

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Speaker 2: and she's getting ghosted by a guy named James. So

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Speaker 2: we're about to call him and see if he'll tell

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Speaker 2: us why is ghosting her and maybe get her another date.

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Speaker 2: But before we do that, Meg, why don't you catch

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Speaker 2: everybody up on your situation?

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, So I went out with this amazing guy, James,

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Speaker 4: who lives in my building. I see him all the

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Speaker 4: time in the elevator. He finally asked me out. We

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Speaker 4: had a great time. There was even some makeouts.

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Speaker 5: But it's been like, oh.

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Speaker 3: My god, it's been weeks now.

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Speaker 4: He has not responded to my last text, and I've

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Speaker 4: recently seen him in the elevator and basically said hey,

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Speaker 4: do you want to go for dinner sometime? And he

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Speaker 4: basically said I'll get back to you, which doesn't feel positive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, And the reason you think you might

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Speaker 2: be getting ghosted is because you kept answering your phone, right,

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 4: My sister kept calling during the date and she's having

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Speaker 4: a tough time, so I did keep answering my phone. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, Well are you ready for us

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Speaker 2: to call him and see if I'll tell us why?

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Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, I think I'm ready. I'm nervous, but

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Speaker 4: I'm ready.

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Speaker 5: Here we go. Hi, I'm asking to James. Please. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: this is James, James. How you doing?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: My name is Jewbel. I'm calling from a radio show.

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Speaker 2: It's called the Jewbeil Show.

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Speaker 1: Hi, James, the show's here too. I'm Nina, Hi, and

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Speaker 1: I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 5: How are you?

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Speaker 3: Hey? I'm good?

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Speaker 6: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Not much? Have you heard the show before ever?

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Speaker 3: Something to do with like first das or something?

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Speaker 5: Yes, actually it does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We do a segment on the show it's called the

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Speaker 2: First Day follow Up to where if you go out

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Speaker 2: on a date with somebody and you up ghosting them,

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Speaker 2: they can email us to get you on the phone

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Speaker 2: and ask why. So we got an email about you

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Speaker 2: from somebody, that's why we're calling.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, I actually have before.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we got an email about you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, are seeing somebody?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You have any idea who?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, who do you think it is?

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Speaker 4: Me?

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Speaker 5: Yes? It is Meg. She also told us she saw

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Speaker 5: you this morning in the elevator. That's awkward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, we did.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us why you're ghosting her? She said

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, here's a story.

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Speaker 6: So I mean, yeah, honestly, we did have a great

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Speaker 3: Might sound looks like a small thing, but.

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Speaker 6: It's big to me, she let it slip that she

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Speaker 3: Breaker for me.

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Speaker 5: Do you have a dog?

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Speaker 6: No, I don't have a dog right now, we're not

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Speaker 7: Like she say like she absolutely hated dogs, she didn't

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Speaker 6: Well, she was complaining about one of her friends dogs

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Speaker 3: I don't like dogs at all and not for me.

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Speaker 6: It was like, well, you're gonna judge all dogs based

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Speaker 5: That's not for me, man, So that's it. Just that

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Speaker 5: she doesn't like dogs that honestly, Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 6: A huge deal breaker for me, Like you like, sure

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Speaker 6: you could, you can tolerate dogs, but I got to

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's got their thing. I've never met anybody

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Speaker 7: But also I would do want to say, like Devil's Advocate,

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Speaker 5: Great at taking care of for dog. Is that like

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Speaker 6: I could see that, But you know, then you then

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Speaker 6: I don't know, it's just to say the things that

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Speaker 2: Maybe you should just ask her because she is on

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hy Jane's.

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Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, hey, I forget about this time.

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Speaker 4: I got I can't believe this, Like my god, And

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Speaker 4: if I had like a hundred guesses, I would never

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Speaker 4: guess this is why you're ghosting me.

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Speaker 3: It's just like it's this is why I didn't want

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Speaker 6: It feels like a little thing to a lot of people,

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Speaker 6: but It's a big thing to me.

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Speaker 3: It's a big part of my life.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I really did feel like we had

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Speaker 6: hard no for me.

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Speaker 3: It's a real deal breaker. But oh my god, we did. Listen,

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 4: I think we had like amazing chemistry, including on that night,

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Speaker 4: And I guess I'm just like, okay, what if it

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Speaker 4: around dogs, like I just wouldn't like have them as

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Speaker 4: if I was around a dog, I could be okay

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Speaker 4: with dogs. Not that I think they're evil. I just

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Speaker 4: don't like they're like they I do think they're messy

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Speaker 4: and there's all.

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Speaker 5: These dog hare everywhere and like whatever. But I mean,

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Speaker 5: does that change.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. This is this is what

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about. This is a no for me.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely not Like you can't even get through a sentence

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, but like it could be worse.

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Speaker 4: I just feel like there's so many worse things. Like

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Speaker 4: it's not like I'm like a murderer or like a stalker,

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Speaker 4: like and I would like, those are real reasons to

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Speaker 5: I just feel like.

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Speaker 3: I don't know someone who doesn't like those murder.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I just feel like this is such I mean,

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Speaker 4: people who don't like people say that and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: what does that even mean? Like you don't trust people

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Speaker 3: Don't trust people who don't like dogs. That is a

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Speaker 6: You know, I was thinking it might have been fun

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Speaker 3: But I'm kind of done at this point. Hard note

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Speaker 4: Wow, okay, And now knowing that you were just like

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Speaker 4: hanging on for one night stand starts to make it

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Speaker 4: feel like a no for me too. So that was

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Speaker 4: a little a little much to hear. So what do

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Speaker 4: I and now if this is great? We live in Like,

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Speaker 4: what am I supposed to do? When I see you

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Speaker 4: in the elevator? We can ignore all.

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Speaker 6: Of this and well, I don't know, you know what

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Speaker 6: time I ride the elevator every day?

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Speaker 3: Maybe you can avoid getting in the elevator with James.

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Speaker 5: Would you like to go on another day with Meg,

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Speaker 5: will pay for it?

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Speaker 3: No, thank you?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I thought yeah, if I mean we

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Speaker 4: could get together and talk it out in person and

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Speaker 4: not like this.

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Speaker 3: No thanks, I do not want to be murdered.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well I guess you got your answer. Meg

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Speaker 2: and James. Thank you, thank you for telling us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I really do like the show.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 3: First day follow up