WEBVTT - 441 | Hunter Greene Extended + Mailbag Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>He's time to say your legs the girls by we

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<v Speaker 1>will sit you.

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<v Speaker 2>In tow's the gunners.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Wednesday, April nineteenth on the Just Baseball Show.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the mail bag where we answer all of

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<v Speaker 3>your questions, whether that be from our Twitter at just Bbie,

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<v Speaker 3>Underscore Media, or our Instagram at Just Baseball Show. We

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<v Speaker 3>do this every other Wednesday. Arm and I hop on

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<v Speaker 3>the mic answer all of your amazing questions that you

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<v Speaker 3>left for us on those social media pages. Make sure

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to be featured on the Just Baseball

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<v Speaker 3>Show to leave your questions When we dropped a little

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<v Speaker 3>mail bag post. It's kind of rudimentary, but it works

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<v Speaker 3>and we get hundreds of questions. They're all awesome. We

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<v Speaker 3>wish we could get to all of them, but we

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<v Speaker 3>have seven. We are going to do a little kind

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<v Speaker 3>of look at the odds of bet MGM right because

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<v Speaker 3>we're weirdly enough. Dude, we're ten percent through the season

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<v Speaker 3>so far, which is insane. I feel like it just

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<v Speaker 3>started eight minutes ago. So we're gonna look at some

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<v Speaker 3>division odds see if there's any value answer some questions.

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<v Speaker 3>But first Hunter Green gets hit on the leg and

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<v Speaker 3>to start against the Reds or excuse me for the

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<v Speaker 3>Reds on a start against the Rays and you know

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<v Speaker 3>what the Reds do. You're fine, We're gonna give you

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<v Speaker 3>six years, fifty three million. What was your reaction arm

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<v Speaker 3>to the extension.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think they just felt bad. They had

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<v Speaker 2>like a booboo. They wanted to make them feel a

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<v Speaker 2>little better. But now it's awesome. It is. It's good

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<v Speaker 2>when the notoriously cheap and frustrating teams extend their young stars.

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<v Speaker 2>And while it's only two years on top of the

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<v Speaker 2>years of control, so it'll be one more year of

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<v Speaker 2>control and then a club option after that, so it

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<v Speaker 2>buys the Reds two more years. It also gives Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>Green some much needed, you know, financial stability. Just I

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<v Speaker 2>think that all of these players need to have in

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<v Speaker 2>the early going of their career, especially someone like Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>Green that's dealt with some arm issues in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>I think some people might look at the deal and say,

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<v Speaker 2>oh wow, that baseline is really cheap, but it has

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<v Speaker 2>escalators that bring it up to ninety plus million, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a fair contract given his injury history.

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<v Speaker 2>When he's healthy, he's fantastic. He's been pretty healthy over

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years. Overall, he's had just some

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<v Speaker 2>small flare ups. But it's just good to see the

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<v Speaker 2>Reds start to lock up the core because we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about their talent, they're getting there, start to identify the

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<v Speaker 2>pieces that are part of your future and lock those

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<v Speaker 2>guys up. So that's exciting for Cincinnati and hopefully Reds

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<v Speaker 2>fans have something to be happy about.

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<v Speaker 3>And I hope they'll Nickelodolo even though as we're speaking

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<v Speaker 3>right now, six earned runs against the Rays. It's all right,

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<v Speaker 3>the razor crazy. Yes, he just gave up six earned

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<v Speaker 3>against the Rays and we're like in the third inning,

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<v Speaker 3>so that could be a tough start. But he's a

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<v Speaker 3>guy you have to lock down. Gray Ashcraft is a

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<v Speaker 3>guy you have to lock down. One more good news

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<v Speaker 3>and then we're going to get to two things that

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<v Speaker 3>are rather shitty to be honest with. So the first one,

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<v Speaker 3>while we already talked about hundred green, the second one

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<v Speaker 3>Mason Miller of the Oakland A's the sun is shining

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<v Speaker 3>in the Bay Area for once, because Mauson Miller is

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<v Speaker 3>a freak and the A's just vaulted him up because

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<v Speaker 3>he already looks like a big leaguer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and he was a guest on the call up.

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<v Speaker 2>I highly encourage and he wants to go listen to

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<v Speaker 2>that podcast that was before the season. Miller as one

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<v Speaker 2>of the coolest stories, which is going to be featured

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<v Speaker 2>on Just Baseball dot com. Actually right now, by the

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<v Speaker 2>time you're listening to this, the feature story I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>in my conversation with Mason Miller is up. And he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't find out I want boyo with all of it,

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<v Speaker 2>use We've got a lot to talk about here. But

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't find out that he was a ty one

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<v Speaker 2>diabetic until his sophomore summer at Division III Waynesburg get

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<v Speaker 2>Is sevent era. Through his first two years of Division

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<v Speaker 2>one baseball was down thirty pounds and was like, what

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<v Speaker 2>the heck is going on? I don't feel good. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel right. And it wasn't until he had an

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<v Speaker 2>internship with a health office somewhere where he had to

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<v Speaker 2>provide a urine sample where they were like, hey, do

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<v Speaker 2>you know that you're diabetic? And he's like what, So

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<v Speaker 2>that's how he found out treated that and then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden starts throwing up her nineties so it's

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<v Speaker 2>an awesome story. But now you're seeing him at the

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<v Speaker 2>big or at the minor league level, professionally, he looks insane.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to a couple guys that faced him recently

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<v Speaker 2>in Triple A who said, best fastball I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 2>And they told me that a couple big leaguers on

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<v Speaker 2>that team that are now down in Triple A said

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<v Speaker 2>it was the best fastball they've seen and they were

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<v Speaker 2>playing in the big leagues not long ago. So that

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<v Speaker 2>says a lot about Mason Miller. More on him in

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<v Speaker 2>that story. But if you have some free time tonight

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<v Speaker 2>as you're listening to this episode, mark your calendar, your schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>watch that Ace. I don't know, he might he might

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<v Speaker 2>have some growing pains in his first start, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>one O two with life, uh and that's fun to

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<v Speaker 2>watch no matter no matter how well he pitches.

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<v Speaker 3>And we do this a lot, right And we got

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<v Speaker 3>a comment on Twitter when we started the mail bag,

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<v Speaker 3>were you guys? And when I see you guys, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean us three you, Jack and I. We talk about prospects,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we glow about them right like their next

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<v Speaker 3>step that we'd take them over the vet And in

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<v Speaker 3>some cases, and you laid it out in the comment

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<v Speaker 3>like some cases, we truly do think that the prospect

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<v Speaker 3>is better right now than the veteran right Matt Mervis

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<v Speaker 3>with the Chicago Cubs, even though Osmer is having a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good start. You gave other examples too, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think this is the best example of when a prospect

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<v Speaker 3>is legit going to be better than the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>the rotation. When we're looking at James Caprillian, Chitaro Fujinami

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<v Speaker 3>who did kind of pitch well against the Mets out

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<v Speaker 3>of nowhere, jpc yours who also pitched pretty well against

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<v Speaker 3>the Mets, and then you got other arms like ken

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<v Speaker 3>Walda Chuck and we can go through the line. But

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<v Speaker 3>this guy, Mason Miller, might be the best pitcher on

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<v Speaker 3>the Oakland A staff right now, right which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is awesome, and that's why I'm glad they're calling him up.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty eight ge or twenty eight innings in the minor

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<v Speaker 2>leagues plus the areson a fall league. Not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of action, but I don't think you need to see

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<v Speaker 2>much more. It's one hundred to one hundred and two.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a plus breaking ball. He added a cutter at

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five, which he actually said on the call up.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like his kind of announcement of the pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, been playing around with this cutter. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, whoa, whoah, tell me about this cutter. So

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<v Speaker 2>he starts talking about the cutter and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's ninety five, Like I think it can make me special.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, well, it's making him special. He looks really

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<v Speaker 2>good and then he's got the feel for the change up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about the health for him, his shoulder. He had

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a shoulder strain last year that

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<v Speaker 2>cut a season shorts. But if he's healthy, my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>he could be special. And I'm glad that the a's

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<v Speaker 2>are being aggressive with him.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking about health too. Bad things in the American League

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<v Speaker 3>East number one, Jeffrey Springs Tommy John will be out

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<v Speaker 3>for the season. We actually not like we broke the news,

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<v Speaker 3>but I heard the news when I was streaming on

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<v Speaker 3>Twitch on our Not Gambling Advice show four thirty to

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<v Speaker 3>six thirty pm Eastern Monday through Friday. And we hear

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<v Speaker 3>in the chat Jeffrey Springs TJ. Jeffrey Springs TJ, what

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<v Speaker 3>happened to Jeffrey Springs and I look MLB trade rumors

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<v Speaker 3>Jeffrey Springs out for the year, will get Tommy John surgery,

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<v Speaker 3>which I had an immediate reaction of That stinks, like

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<v Speaker 3>that is a killer because this guy, by a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of metrics, was one of the best pitchers in baseball.

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<v Speaker 3>Rays don't just extend anyone, right, and they extended Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 3>Springs before this season began, and he showed why the

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<v Speaker 3>Rays loved him so much. Electric left hander. There was

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<v Speaker 3>times where I was watching them Jeffrey Springs starts and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, wow, Sean McLennan is the second best

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<v Speaker 3>lefty on his own, even though he's one of the

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<v Speaker 3>best lefties of baseball. That's how well Jeffrey Springs was pitching.

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<v Speaker 3>So when fortunately Tommy John for him and then gin

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<v Speaker 3>Carlos Stanton, it's a tail as old as time. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>six weeks Grade two hamstring strain and six weeks yeah right,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be eight. Like he'll be back in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of June. You know. I'm on the phone my dad,

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<v Speaker 3>a huge Yankee fan, and he's like, when do you

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<v Speaker 3>think Stanton's gonna come back? And I'm like, who cares? October.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all we need him for. Like, yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 3>was surprised, right, My dad was surprised, And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>how can you be surprised at this point with a

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<v Speaker 3>guy like Stanton? Every year it's continuous, it's just when

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<v Speaker 3>is it going to happen? It's unfortunate. He's a great talent,

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<v Speaker 3>but like this is kind of the story of his

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<v Speaker 3>career at this point is just he plays really well, Bang,

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<v Speaker 3>he's out, and then it's rehabbing and then we're back.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>There was some years with the Marlins through his prime

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<v Speaker 2>where he was in the middle of some awesome campaigns

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<v Speaker 2>and Marlins team that like desperately needed him. He was

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<v Speaker 2>MVP with the Marlins, and when they were hanging around

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<v Speaker 2>the wild Card, he'd go down and then the team

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<v Speaker 2>would kind of just fall apart. And it sucks because

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<v Speaker 2>if he's been on the field as much as some

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<v Speaker 2>of the other guys you know, over the last ten years,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be pushing towards a lot of really exciting milestones

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<v Speaker 2>and he still has a shot to crack those milestones.

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<v Speaker 2>But I agree with you, like the hamstring that that lingers,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for a guy like Stanton and I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>almost just too much of a beast, like he's too

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<v Speaker 2>muscular and just too strong, where his muscles just go

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<v Speaker 2>from time to time, which sucks. On the spring point,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very happy that he got his bag before this year.

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<v Speaker 2>That part is at least a nice silver lining and

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<v Speaker 2>it is at least just Tommy John, which is just

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<v Speaker 2>to me, it seems like more just like this, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like this paid vacation now where.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just Tommy John. That's what we've done to Is

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<v Speaker 3>it really at that point I've got anymore? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you're off for the season.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a duration. It's how long it takes that sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>But in terms of like if you told me, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shoulder strain, like two shoulder strains that come up in

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<v Speaker 2>the same year, or Tommy John, I think I'd rather

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<v Speaker 2>have the Tommy John because the shoulder strains don't seem

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<v Speaker 2>to go away and it usually points towards something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy John a lot of times he's got to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of it and then they're good to go. It

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<v Speaker 2>almost seems like a foregone conclusion for most pitchers. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of them get it out of the way earlier

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<v Speaker 2>and again, I hope humans evolve to not need UCLs anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>but wishing Jeffrey Springs to speedy recovery and the raise.

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<v Speaker 2>The good news for them is next man up, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>bring somebody else back from the il like a glass now. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>And then I think we'll see a lot more TODs Bradley,

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<v Speaker 2>who pitches tonight as we're recording this.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're speaking about the Rays. So that leads us

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<v Speaker 3>into our first question of the mail bag. The current

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<v Speaker 3>raise infield is solid with Yanni Diaz, Brandon Lao Wannafranco,

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<v Speaker 3>and Isak Pretties, with Taylor Wallas as the third middle

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<v Speaker 3>infielder who is already doing well off like Nick Lidolo,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a lefty killer with Curtis Mead Manzardo. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know who this is? You correct me? Bisabi?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Ocelevis Bisab, who I actually love. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that we hyped up a lot on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the Rays prospect rankings. But yeah, Basabe is an infielder

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Perfect. And so the question is what is the infield

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<v Speaker 3>light looking like in August if everyone is healthy? That

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<v Speaker 3>comes from us from at Todd Bernias B e r

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<v Speaker 3>ni Us on our Instagram. So, Arm, this is a

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<v Speaker 3>perfect question for you. I mean, with the way the

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<v Speaker 3>Rays are playing, as good as these young guys are,

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<v Speaker 3>it would be nice to see Curtis, Mead, Manzarto and Basabe.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the day, like were you

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<v Speaker 3>taken out of that injury?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. Man Manzarto is off to a phenomenal start,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think he's somebody that has a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more time. Mead is actually off to a slow start,

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<v Speaker 2>so that helps a little bit in terms of the

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<v Speaker 2>log jam. And then Basab is awesome, really really good

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<v Speaker 2>back to ball guy. He's a plus hitter, a potentially

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<v Speaker 2>plus plus hitter, and he's actually hitting them all harder

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<v Speaker 2>than people expect it. But I still think of is

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<v Speaker 2>like this second base or infield utility type. If it

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<v Speaker 2>ain't broke, don't fix it. And I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to see any of those guys until somebody gets hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully that doesn't happen. I think if somebody gets hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>then we'd see probably one of those guys. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it depends on who gets hurts. I think they're all

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<v Speaker 2>pretty equally ready. I'd say Basab might be the most

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<v Speaker 2>ready given his bats to ball skills and versatility. But

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, Peter, who you booting? Even Eastok Perettis

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<v Speaker 2>has been swinging it well, I don't. I don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know who you would remove from this lineup. And Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>Walls just took Nickeldolo deep and I think you just

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<v Speaker 2>picked up like a double the next at bat, like

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<v Speaker 2>if Walls is swinging a two with his defensive ability,

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<v Speaker 2>like who are you bumping? I'm very interested to see

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<v Speaker 2>what they do. I'm actually floored by what Taylor Walls's

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<v Speaker 2>numbers are actually enting to entering today. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you do anything. I think it's similar to the Oriole

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<v Speaker 2>situation that we're going to talk about, like you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of just sit on them.

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<v Speaker 3>Potentially a trade, right, you can potually look at one,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he gets some outfield help like Randy has got

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<v Speaker 3>it locked up, but then you have Josh Lowe and

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<v Speaker 3>Manny Margo and it's not like they need help there.

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<v Speaker 3>But potentially, could a Brian Reynolds trade be in the cards.

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<v Speaker 3>It never happens with the Rays. It's so out of

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<v Speaker 3>the ordinary for them. I'm just thinking of ways to

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<v Speaker 3>be creative here, because they have such a glut of

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<v Speaker 3>incredible Again, everyone on their major league roster is incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just an incredible team. So I guess let's just

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<v Speaker 3>move on to our second question, and it's a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of the surprise teams that have started hot, and

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<v Speaker 3>the three listed were the Pittsburgh Pirates, the Arizona Diamondbacks,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Chicago Cubs, which team do you think can

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<v Speaker 3>have the most sustained long term success? That was asked

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<v Speaker 3>by at Riley Underscore mcl wai N two on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really good question.

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<v Speaker 3>The crazy thing is, I don't know if there's a

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<v Speaker 3>wrong answer here, but all are off the great starts.

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<v Speaker 3>The Cubs are near the top of the division. If

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<v Speaker 3>it weren't for the Brewers being twelve and five, one

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<v Speaker 3>of baseball's best records. The d Backs look like they

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<v Speaker 3>have an outside shot at making the playoffs. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>good day then. And then you have the Cubs, who

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<v Speaker 3>just continue to win games, go into Los Angeles great

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<v Speaker 3>series against them. These are three teams that are massively

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<v Speaker 3>over performing expectations. I would say the Pirates have overperformed

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<v Speaker 3>the most, even though I think the Cubs and the

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<v Speaker 3>d Backs are playing better baseball, but we thought the

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<v Speaker 3>Pirates might be bottom dwellers, and there are anything from it.

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<v Speaker 3>So who's your choice? I guess because there really is

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<v Speaker 3>no wrong answer. It's more of a thought exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I say, let's walk through this together because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to see where you're at. T Backs is a

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<v Speaker 2>team I have a little bias towards just leading into

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<v Speaker 2>this because that was a team I liked better going

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<v Speaker 2>into the season. So there's gonna be some confirmation by

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<v Speaker 2>us on that performance. The Cubs, the thing with them

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<v Speaker 2>is we didn't really account for Cody Bellinger looking like this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's only a dozen games, but if Cody Bellinger's swinging

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<v Speaker 2>it like this and then the Cubs look a lot different,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're gonna swap out Eric Cosmer, who's probably been

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<v Speaker 2>now after the good five games to start to slow down,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you swap that out for one of the best

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<v Speaker 2>offensive prospects right now in baseball and Matt Murvis. That

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<v Speaker 2>helps bolster your offense. They're gonna get say a Suzuki,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, really rolling again for them and just got

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<v Speaker 2>them back in the lineup like this. Team is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get better. The pitching is a little bit of a concern.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see how that holds up. But they've got Danzby Swanson, they'

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<v Speaker 2>spent money, They've got a little bit more star power

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<v Speaker 2>on that team. The d Backs are younger and more volatile,

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<v Speaker 2>but also I think are more balanced across the board,

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<v Speaker 2>if that makes sense, Like you're leaning on performances from

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<v Speaker 2>guys that are less established, but guys I believe in.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna say d Backs. Wouldn't surprise me if

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<v Speaker 2>it's the Cubs, but I'm gonna say d Backs because

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing this right now with like mad bum mad

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<v Speaker 2>bum pitching. You swap him out for Brandon Thought. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Corbyn Carroll is gonna be one of those guys

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<v Speaker 2>who just gets stronger as the year gets goes on

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<v Speaker 2>and gets better and better. Longo looks good. I like

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<v Speaker 2>the whole team, and that's without Moreno really getting going.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of the pitching staff is still

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<v Speaker 2>going to get better and better. Bullpen's a concerned, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think a bullpen's concern for almost any of these

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<v Speaker 2>middling teams.

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<v Speaker 3>And Andrew Chafin has been that dude in the back

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<v Speaker 3>end of the Arizona Diamback's bullpen. And a guy who

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<v Speaker 3>I think is becoming maybe one of the most underrated

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<v Speaker 3>players in all of baseball. That's Josh Rojas. I got

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<v Speaker 3>I can play all over the field and is a

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<v Speaker 3>really good hitter. He is just like he's one of

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<v Speaker 3>those guys who you know, kind of doesn't get talked

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<v Speaker 3>about because we talked about all these young, exciting guys

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<v Speaker 3>on the Diamondbacks, and it's like him leading the way consistently.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy like Lordi Scuriell, Junior, Christian Walker, Ketel Marte. They

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of good players, and then the emergence

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<v Speaker 3>of Dre Jamison is another arm. You know, Ryan Nelson

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<v Speaker 3>is a good arm. Then you have Zach Allen, who

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<v Speaker 3>can lead any staff in Major League Baseball with his stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw him dominate the Miami Marlins. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about that trade in a little while. They are

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<v Speaker 3>the most exciting team, and I think one aspect of

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<v Speaker 3>the Diamondbacks that again goes a little bit underreported, is

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<v Speaker 3>that I think they are one of the teams that

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<v Speaker 3>benefits the most from these new rules. Right They're a

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<v Speaker 3>scrappy team that likes to put the ball on the

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<v Speaker 3>ground and that helps with no shift, bigger bases, you

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<v Speaker 3>know the pickoff rules. They're stealing back bases like nobody's business.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a fast, exciting team and they play really

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<v Speaker 3>good defense too, Like we talk about Alec Thomas in centerfield,

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<v Speaker 3>Corbyn Carroll in a corner when he could be an

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<v Speaker 3>elite center fielder, you know, Heraldo Perdomo is not the best,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, hitter, but he can pick it at short

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the reason why he's in the bigs. Christian Walker,

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<v Speaker 3>gold Glover, Josh Rowss can play all over the infield

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<v Speaker 3>to tell Marte and then Gaby Maraino, Like, this team

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<v Speaker 3>is set up perfectly for this new age of baseball,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're gushing over the Diamondbacks. Shouldn't take away from

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<v Speaker 3>the Pirates of the Cubs either, like all three of

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<v Speaker 3>these teams. That's why it's such a good question and

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<v Speaker 3>there is no wrong answer, is because they're all set

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<v Speaker 3>up really nicely. So the US are out overperforming. And

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<v Speaker 3>this isn't even the Cubs window yet they have all

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<v Speaker 3>these great prospects that you and Jack talk about at nauseum.

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<v Speaker 3>How about the Pirates they're going to get Dylan Cruz

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<v Speaker 3>O'Neil Cruz isn't even playing in their winning games. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like all three of these teams. If you are a fan,

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<v Speaker 3>I would be very excited right now, Like this is

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<v Speaker 3>a great question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one hundred percent, and real quick, just to highlight

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<v Speaker 2>that the Pirates, I mean to get what they're getting

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<v Speaker 2>from mccutch and I hope he does it as long

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<v Speaker 2>as possible because it's so awesome to see him performing

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<v Speaker 2>in a Pirates uniform. But you know, just to see

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<v Speaker 2>what Brian Reynolds is doing. I know he's come down

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<v Speaker 2>to earth a little bit, but that's been really solid.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he came down from hitting a home run

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<v Speaker 3>every single Yeah, from every single like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love g Wan Bay. I think he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>continue to get going offensively. But they've got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of pieces that I think are contributing and can serve

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<v Speaker 2>their role pretty well. And I think the pitching selled

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<v Speaker 2>up better than people thought. I do think they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to slow down a little bit, but yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>the final answer is d backs. But all these teams

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<v Speaker 2>I think are going to be much more watchable than

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people might have expected, especially many of

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<v Speaker 2>their cynical fans, specifically on the Pirates side.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a perfect question for you, and we are

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<v Speaker 3>going back to the Rays, but this question isn't about

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<v Speaker 3>the Rays. So question number three. If the Rays are

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<v Speaker 3>the model for developing pitching, which teams do you consider

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<v Speaker 3>the leaders in hitting development? What a fascinating question because

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<v Speaker 3>while the Rays are the leaders, you'd say, but like

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<v Speaker 3>the Dodgers are pretty damn good at it in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of developing pitching, the Guardians are pretty damn good at it.

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<v Speaker 3>The Mariners, right, bringing up George Kirby, Right, they got

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<v Speaker 3>Bryce Miller coming in the minor leagues, like Emerson Hancock

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<v Speaker 3>looks good. There are a lot of teams at the

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<v Speaker 3>forefront of this, and I'm sure there are a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of teams at the forefront of offense for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great question, and there's a lot that

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<v Speaker 2>goes into it because I think it's it's measurable by

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<v Speaker 2>how many guys did you draft or trade for in

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<v Speaker 2>the minor leagues and then of course develop into big

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<v Speaker 2>league pieces. But also it's just kind of looking at

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<v Speaker 2>it anecdotally from player to player and saying like, okay,

0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 2>they took this guy that was struggling and really helped

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<v Speaker 2>him kick it into another gear. Or this guy was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good and now he's just hit another stride. And

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<v Speaker 2>then there's also like the question of is it scouting

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<v Speaker 2>or development, because some teams are really good at both.

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<v Speaker 2>Some teams might be better than at one than the other,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't know because the other kind of mask

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<v Speaker 2>masks the other. But I think the Astros have to

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<v Speaker 2>be up there, and I might put the Astros at

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<v Speaker 2>number one just because of the fact that you look

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<v Speaker 2>at their roster top to bottom right now, and you

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<v Speaker 2>look at their team, A lot of those guys are homegrown.

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<v Speaker 2>And then even guys that they didn't specifically sign, they developed.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody thought jord On Alvarez was gonna was gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>what he is, and look at what he developed into.

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<v Speaker 2>They traded for him at the lower levels. Yeah, Bregman

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<v Speaker 2>was a top pick, but he's hit his ceiling. Jeremy

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<v Speaker 2>Panel was a development master class from what they've had there.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at Kyle Tucker, who hit some snags at

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<v Speaker 2>point people were wondering whether he was gonna hit his ceiling.

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<v Speaker 2>He does. And then you've got the tween or types

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<v Speaker 2>like a Chas McCormick who gets better and better and

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<v Speaker 2>better and turns into a really solid option for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So for me, it's got to be guys like that,

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<v Speaker 2>because the don't even get the role players like David Hensley,

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<v Speaker 2>who turned into valuable or at least somewhat productive. That's

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<v Speaker 2>for them. I'd say that the Astros are right there.

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<v Speaker 2>The Cardinals are in the same boat. When you get

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<v Speaker 2>the large noop bars of the world, the Tyler O'Neals

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<v Speaker 2>who you trade for and then unlock more out of him,

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<v Speaker 2>and then a lot of the other guys we could

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<v Speaker 2>talk about, obviously Jordan Walker's development. You see other guys

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<v Speaker 2>that are really doing well, but I think the Astros

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<v Speaker 2>have to be the gold standard. I also think the

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<v Speaker 2>Yankees don't get enough praise. They do a really good

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<v Speaker 2>job of getting the most out of there of their bats,

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<v Speaker 2>especially guys that have come through the minor League's Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Volpi one of the best examples, but even Jason Dimingez,

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<v Speaker 2>the changes he's made, the improvements he's made, Oswald Perrazza,

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<v Speaker 2>and then guys at the big league level, Aaron Judge, Hello,

0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:55.479
<v Speaker 2>that's not a guy that like just rolled out hit

0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:56.760
<v Speaker 2>that tooks more.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the end of the first round out of Fresno State,

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<v Speaker 3>and he looks terrible.

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.639
<v Speaker 2>Like I his swing if you I saw some video

0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 2>on the Cape. I was like, Geez, would not have

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>taken this guy. So you know, I think the Yankees

0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 2>are a dark horse in that as well. And then

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:12.040
<v Speaker 2>of course the Dodgers.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, because the Dodgers are just the answer kind

0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 3>of for everything about the gold standard. And then how

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:18.560
<v Speaker 3>about just another guy with Yankee Spencer Jones is a

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:21.359
<v Speaker 3>guy who's flying up prospect lists and he was a

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:23.239
<v Speaker 3>guy who I was like, oh wait, we're taking him

0:22:23.240 --> 0:22:24.920
<v Speaker 3>in the first round. And it's like, well, he might

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.480
<v Speaker 3>have gotten number one overall if we redid that draft

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 3>based on the house. But he's so question number four

0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.200
<v Speaker 3>Cardinals fans are pissed, and I understand. And this next

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:40.000
<v Speaker 3>question is the Cardinals pitching seems to be getting worse.

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 3>That's just that's the start of the question. Good thing

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 3>we have Grandpa Waino making his rehab start. They need

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.400
<v Speaker 3>to be eighty three and sixty five for the rest

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:51.400
<v Speaker 3>of the season to get to ninety wins. Do they

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.479
<v Speaker 3>do it? Or are they throwing out another year of

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:59.360
<v Speaker 3>really nice offense. This was asked by Seth Partney on Twitter.

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:04.120
<v Speaker 3>We're talking about a nauseum, dude.

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Before you say anything, you know, fan bases and shambles

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 2>when they're doing the math of what they need to

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:12.360
<v Speaker 2>do to get to ninety wins. That will always make

0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 2>you feel like shit as a fan. I promise we're

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 2>ten percent into the season, like Peter sent off the cuff.

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 2>No matter what, if you do the math to how

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 2>it you get to ninety wins after a swell start,

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.480
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna make yourself miserable. Don't do that. And also

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:27.800
<v Speaker 2>they can very easily go eighty three and sixty five.

0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:29.919
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Peter, thefloor is yours.

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:36.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the question at hand is what do they

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 3>do right? Like the question at hand is more do

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.680
<v Speaker 3>we think they have it in the tank? And Cardinals

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:45.960
<v Speaker 3>fans are looking for some optimism and I can be

0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 3>optimistic about Jack Flerity. Jack Flaerity a.

0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Good last start.

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:53.520
<v Speaker 3>His command hasn't been there, but guess what, he's fixing

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:55.960
<v Speaker 3>it and he's getting better. And this is a guy

0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 3>who we can't forget. In twenty nineteen was one of

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:01.240
<v Speaker 3>the better pitchers in the now National League. And it's

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.040
<v Speaker 3>not like he looks unhealthy. Yeah, he has some command

0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:06.919
<v Speaker 3>issues early on, but he's got this new fastball that

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 3>looks really good. His slider looks sharp, breaking stuff looks good.

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 3>They got Libby coming up from the pipe, and like

0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:16.560
<v Speaker 3>we'll see, could be another rookie who ends up not

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 3>being what we might think. But you and Jack have

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:21.280
<v Speaker 3>talked about the game.

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Jack's calling a game with him on the mountain right

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 2>now as we record.

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<v Speaker 3>Amazing, So we'll have you know, a recap of how

0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:28.919
<v Speaker 3>that went, and we'll talk to Jack, because I know

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.119
<v Speaker 3>Cardinals fans are looking for pitchers, and what I do

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 3>know is if you are a team in need of pitching,

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:38.199
<v Speaker 3>the Cardinals are in the best spot to make a

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:42.399
<v Speaker 3>big time trade. They have so many young hitting prospects.

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 3>Now we've talked about this at nauseum because they just

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 3>ain't doing it right. They did trade Harrison Beta for

0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Jordan Montgomery, so it's not like they're, you know, allergic

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.120
<v Speaker 3>to doing stuff like that. They brought in Jose Kintana,

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 3>they just haven't brought in the all time ace that

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Cardinals fans are looking for. The they want to hang

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 3>their hat on and say, every fifth day, we can

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 3>give this guy a ball and we should win the game.

0:25:05.920 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 3>And that's what you need as a World Series contender?

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Is that type of starter? Now you know, whould they

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 3>make a deal with the Marlins for Sandy? Of course

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 3>they might be able to, but we're grasping at straws

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 3>with that one. It's it's really tough. We have to

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 3>wait for the season to continue to unfold to really

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.520
<v Speaker 3>see who could be available. Because the Marlins are playing

0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.560
<v Speaker 3>good baseball right now? Why would you want to trade

0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Sandy if you're competing right Like, you're not gonna get

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:37.439
<v Speaker 3>Gallon from the Arizona Diamondbacks. You're not gonna get like

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:41.159
<v Speaker 3>to Grum from the Rangers. Like I mean, it's it's

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 3>tough right now. We could come up with random options

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 3>just to get people excited, but we have to wait.

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 3>But Flari Day looks good, Waino's gonna come back. Then

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 3>you have Libby. It's not like Monty's pitching bad and

0:25:52.960 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 3>like Michael's can't be any worse.

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, Michael's legit can't be worse. My thing, too, is

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 2>is what if they took a Twins type approach? You're

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 2>not gonna be able to go get an ace, Go

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 2>get like a couple of threes. I think jay Mont's

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 2>pretty much a three. You went out and got him

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Quintana once he comes, you know, once he gets going

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 2>like that. That was a guy that I liked that pickup.

0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 2>Is that a three? I don't know. But now now

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 2>that they subtract him, right now they're looking at what

0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 2>they have here. I feel like you're not gonna get

0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 2>an ace. You're not gonna be able to get that

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 2>frontline guy. I need the aforementioned guys that you just listed.

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you just go for a few threes and build

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 2>that rotation of threes. I think Jack Flaherty at his peak,

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what he's looking like now, could be a

0:26:35.040 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 2>solid three. J Mott could be a solid three. Waino

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 2>is probably depth arm, but Joe's flashes of being a

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 2>solid and middle rotation arm go like. Don't you think

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 2>they're kicking themselves right now for not getting Pablo like

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 2>Pablo Lopez. They could have done Tyler O'Neill plus a

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>prospect or two and got and got Pablo Lopez.

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 3>I feel like they have Dylan Carlson. They could have

0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 3>done Dylan Carlson in p like not that long ago,

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and they decided, no, we needed a seventh outfielder. We

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:08.199
<v Speaker 3>need them. We're not gonna go get Pablo Lopez. But

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 3>with this said, and this is why on lives in

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.919
<v Speaker 3>my comments, I'm sure in yours DMS Cardinals fans are

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 3>freaking out. And I know. But if you're gonna be

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 3>a team loaded with threes, the Cardinals, if you look

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 3>at the rest of the team, it's the perfect team

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.960
<v Speaker 3>to have a bunch of threes. You have an unbelievable offense,

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 3>you have an unbelievable defense, you have a very solid bullpen.

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 3>So all you really need is guys like Caintana. Now

0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 3>you're not gonna get him anymo because he's on the Mets,

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 3>but guys like that, they will open up in the

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 3>trade market. Even a guy like Herman Marquez from the Rockies,

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 3>Like maybe could he get him he turns into some

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 3>sort of three four, that's another arm that you could

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 3>go get. Like, we're gonna keep talking about this. This

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 3>is I feel like one of the big stories in

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 3>Major League Baseball right now is that there there's such

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:03.199
<v Speaker 3>a difference right now in talent, like you look at

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 3>the offense and you look at the starting staff, but

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 3>it's so early, so it's like, what you want me

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 3>to freak out with your call?

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so here here's the thing, and it's frustrating because

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 2>of how good they are position player wise, and because

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 2>the clock's ticking, you're not gonna you know, Nolan Eronato's

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 2>not getting any younger. Neither is Paul gold Schmidt. So

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I get it from that perspective, but they've got a

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.360
<v Speaker 2>lot of time to figure stuff out. One Libertor could

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 2>come up and be a legit, legit starter. Obviously that's

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>a tall ask, but it's possible. If that's clear that

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 2>that's not gonna happen. He struggles when you when you

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 2>call him up, and you know, Michaelist doesn't get any better.

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 2>You're not getting anything from Matts, Like I think you

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 2>got to wait finally get all of those answers being

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>the worst case scenario, and then from there you panic

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 2>and you go, you know, pay dollar twenty on the dollar,

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 2>like that's what they'll end up having to do. My

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 2>question to wrap up on this is do you give

0:28:57.160 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 2>up a big prospect package or do you just trade time?

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Tyler O'Neill plus a prospect or two, if there's a

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>team that's looking to do that kind of deal, Because

0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel like O'Neill, it seems like he's probably going

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 2>to be somebody that's going to be the odd man out. Ultimately,

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 2>he's got one more year of control after this year.

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I think this is kind of the perfect time to

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>trade him, especially with the little spat we had recently.

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. I just get the sense that

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 2>his days might be numbered. Carlson has more control. They

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 2>don't like trading prospects. Maybe you trade an O'Neill and

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>a prospector too for a team that you know wants

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 2>a player that can add to their lineup. That might

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 2>be an interesting way to upgrade. But yeah, that's not

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 2>going to get you an ACE, but it could get

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 2>you a middle rotation arm.

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Two reasons I love that option from you. One, if

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>you trade Tyler O'Neill, you can get a good starter

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 3>from a contender, right, a contender that has a bulk

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 3>of pitching that needs offense. They're not trading for that

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 3>high a nineteen year old with upside, Right, you're getting

0:29:57.320 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 3>Tyler O'Neal. He could help right now, luis a Raja's

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 3>trade for Pablo Lopez kind of in that same breath

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 3>where you get a Pablo back and you give up

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 3>a major leaguer. Both teams want to contend they don't

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 3>want prospects. So that for Tyler Neil. Second reason, the

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 3>contract thing is big right because he only has one

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:18.239
<v Speaker 3>more year of control. So unless you're going to give

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 3>him a big extension, which you see all the different

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 3>guys on offense that the Cardinals have, are you going

0:30:23.160 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 3>to give him a big time deal? Might as well

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 3>cash in on that. So I think this is a

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<v Speaker 3>I really want to go to this now is I

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 3>want to look at the National League Central odds to

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 3>win the division because the Brewers are twelve and five,

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 3>the Cardinals haven't gone off to the best start in

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 3>the world, and the Brewers are minus one thirty to

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 3>win the division. Now they are the favorites. Cardinals are

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 3>plus one sixty, Cubs are plus seven point fifty. Who

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 3>talking about all this, I was thinking about making a

0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 3>move on the Cardinals at this point. Now, my gambling

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 3>brain says, you knew that was a trap line at

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 3>the beginning of the year where they gave us minus

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.840
<v Speaker 3>one fifteen for the Cardinals, you know what a steel

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 3>But now at this point it's like, do I go

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 3>back in on the Cardinals. That's excellent value for them,

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:00.239
<v Speaker 3>at least in my opinion, considering the line move. And

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 3>it's like an overreaction to the Brewers doing so well.

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Brandon Woodruff, you know, on the IL for an extended

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 3>period of time, Corbin Burns isn't pitching his best either,

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 3>Like maybe the Cardinals at plus one sixty is a

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 3>decent bet. You bet ten, you win sixteen, you bet

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 3>one hundred, you win one sixty. Like that's good value

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 3>on the Cardinals.

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, and a team that we talked about how they're

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.959
<v Speaker 2>they're going to be patient and probably not rush anything.

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 2>They have a get out of jail free card with

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>a litany of minor league talent if they want to

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>push the Chips forward, and of course even excess outfielders

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 2>at the big league level. When you have teams that

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 2>have resources like that that are in win now mode,

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm always a little bit more confident laying some money

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>on them. So I didn't like them at that minus

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 2>anything to win the division, But now at that value,

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I if you're getting free credits, like I'm gonna bet

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 2>on the best franchise and still the most talented team

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 2>with that free credit to throw on there that I

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 2>think that's one hundred percent worth like a unit splash,

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.320
<v Speaker 2>and you get to root for a good team to

0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 2>turn it around. It's a long season, and if they

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>get hot, I think you hit the nail on the head.

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm a little week Jack and I just talked

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 2>about it. We're a little worried about what the Woodroof

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 2>injury means it could be out for basically majority of

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 2>the season. He said himself, he's not going to rush back.

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 2>And you know, the Cubs, they look good. I think

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>they're going to hang around, you know, five hundred and

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 2>be a competitive team and in exceed expectations. But that's

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 2>not going to be what wins the division. So it's

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 2>really Cardinals versus Brewers, and you're hoping the Brewers can

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>hold on given their ace struggling, having a lot of

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 2>issues before the year with the team, and then their

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 2>number two now being out for a long time, no

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>ashby a lot of other moving parts. I really like

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>that value there.

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 3>And I'm not saying it's crazy, but there is value

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 3>on the Cubs here. I mean, the Cubs are playing

0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 3>good baseball considering their plus seven fifty. If we talk

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.280
<v Speaker 3>about the Brewers issues, Let's say the Cardinals don't solve

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 3>these issues and the pitching does go down the drain.

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's gonna happen, but maybe, considering that

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 3>they're plus seven point fifty, I also think that's somewhat

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 3>worthy of a sprinkle. Do I think it's gonna happen? No,

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 3>But sometimes I gave out to my subscribers Bears to

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 3>win the division in the NFL. Do I think it's

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 3>gonna happen. I don't know, But the fact is that

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 3>they were the farthest down, they have the most cap space,

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 3>they have the number or they trade the number one

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 3>overall pick. They have a ton that they can do.

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:29.960
<v Speaker 3>And the Jaguars went from worse to first two right,

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 3>so it's a value play. And plus seven fifty, I

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.839
<v Speaker 3>just think that's too high for the Cubs, considering problems

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 3>within the other team. One more race that I want

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 3>to talk about with you on is this American League East,

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 3>because there's bluster at the top, and I'm curious as

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 3>we sit here today which team you like. Because the

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 3>Rays are plus one thirty, the Yankees are plus one eighty,

0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 3>and the Blue Jays are plus two seventy five. I'm

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 3>jumping for joy I got the Rays at plus three

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 3>fifty to win the division, so I'm feeling good right now.

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.919
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, like you never know, right

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 3>the Ras are super talented. Anything had happened, it's so early,

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 3>but I'm thinking about jumping back in with the Blue

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Jays and plus two seventy five. I mean, like that

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 3>is just I mean, is that line telling us something.

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 3>That's why I think that one scene is almost too

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 3>good to be true.

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 2>I think that one's too good to be true. I

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>was gonna say I'm almost looking at the Yankees because

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting the Yankees at that plus line there. At

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>this point, they haven't had their team fully healthy at all.

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 2>They've still looked fine. Volpi's just getting going. Judge looks

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>like he's gonna be something close to what he was

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 2>last year. Yes, Stanton's hurt, but at the end of

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 2>the day, that's a DH that you know was not

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>a game changer for you in the regular season. He

0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 2>wasn't in the postseason. And I think, you know, we're

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna wait and see hen ro Don, who now is

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 2>a little back thing. And but the pitching is only

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna get stronger. They're only going to get more and

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 2>more guys back. I don't hate the value there. I'm

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.959
<v Speaker 2>worried about the Jays pitching. We've seen them regression looking

0:36:00.960 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 2>pretty real now. Gosman got knocked around the other day.

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's gonna be a huge issue, But

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 2>then he got Barrios we talked about Bassett. I think

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 2>I like your Yankees at that value there.

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Man, Yeah, I think if you're gonna make a Swendy

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.279
<v Speaker 3>pull swenaity, I think if you're gonna make a move,

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 3>it has to be on the Yankees. One more thing

0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:19.040
<v Speaker 3>about the Carlos Ordon back thing. It's funny because he's

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 3>on the ihel for an arm thing. It's in a

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 3>back thing. And at the beginning, you know, it was

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 3>like he slept on it wrong, or at least that

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 3>was a report I heard, and I was like, oh,

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't matter. And then then in that spring training

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 3>star Boone came out and Boone's like normally a really

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 3>positive guy. He did not sound happy, Like it was like,

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 3>what is happening to our guy who we just signed

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 3>to this enormous contract. It was an arm thing. Armfelt good,

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 3>he's making a reup starry. Now it's a back thing,

0:36:43.200 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Like come on, yeah, right, I mean, I don't blame Boone.

0:36:46.440 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like, what's going on? Everyone we sign, everyone we

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 3>trade for. You know, we talked about the litany of

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 3>bullpen guys get going down, then Stanton goes down, then

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.399
<v Speaker 3>Rodn goes down, and then Boone suffers the blame when

0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 3>the Yankees aren't at their peak on playoff time, like

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.439
<v Speaker 3>Yankee fans totally forget. I mean, probably not Yankee fans,

0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 3>but I think the greater good of baseball fans, Like

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 3>DJ le Maye wasn't in the playoffs last year, like

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 3>they had a lot of injuries to that team, and

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 3>then they got swept by the Ashers, and everybody's calling

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 3>for Boone's job, Like it's a lot of pressure on

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 3>manager Aaron Boone if none of the players that Brian

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:19.320
<v Speaker 3>Cashman got for you are playing.

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.280
<v Speaker 2>And I think he's gonna get guys back, slowly but surely,

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 2>and I think that helps. I totally agree with you.

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 2>My favorite pick to end the segment here is I

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.000
<v Speaker 2>think it's the Minnesota Twins to win the division. I

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:31.840
<v Speaker 2>know the value is not insane. I think I'm the.

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Only thing the value. It's like minus now, and they're

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 3>like they're doing well, like this is what I looked at.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I was like, well, the Razor plus one thirty and

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 3>the Twins are minus one fifteen. I'm like minus one

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 3>fifteen because also two days ago they were plus one fifteen.

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 3>Guardian's just lost a doublehead or another minus one fifteen,

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 3>Like that's such an overreaction.

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I just I really agree with you. I

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 2>really feel good about this pitching staff, and that was

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 2>the big question. And then they're only going to get

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 2>better offensively. They're getting Royce Lewis back, They're getting some

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 2>other guys back in the coming months. They haven't had

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Jorge Polonko at all so far this season. I mean,

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Pablo looks like a dude. Joe Ryan, you just talked

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 2>about stock up on that TikTok video you did breaking up.

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 2>He looks awesome. What was that.

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm just saying I love Joe Ryan.

0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:23.719
<v Speaker 2>He's awesome. He's awesome. And then like Tyler Maley's are four,

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Miata looks pretty damn good as a five. And then

0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 2>they've got Ober and all this depth. I'm gonna probably

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 2>take it like I'm probably gonna sprinkle more because the

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 2>White Times you can eliminate, I mean, you can eliminate

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.759
<v Speaker 2>the White Sox. It's really just Twins versus Guardians, and

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:42.320
<v Speaker 2>the Guardians bost Mackenzie offense looks a little bit shaky

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>to start the year. I kind of like the Twins

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>that at even minus one fifteen. I wouldn't take it

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:49.239
<v Speaker 2>any later than that though, or any any you know,

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:51.760
<v Speaker 2>worse than that in terms of the value.

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 3>So I have a future on the Guardians to win

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.760
<v Speaker 3>the division of plus one twenty five. And I was thinking,

0:38:56.800 --> 0:38:58.320
<v Speaker 3>because I do think it's going to be down to

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 3>the wire in this division with these two teams, because

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I love them both. I'm almost thinking what I kind

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 3>of want to do is wait for the Twins to

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 3>go on like a three game losing streak, Like right

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 3>now they're losing against Boston. It's one zero on the second.

0:39:10.440 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 3>But these lines just switch all the time, so I'm like,

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I might just grab both at plus money and like,

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 3>no matter what, like I'm gonna win money because if

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 3>you bet a plus and then another plus at the

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 3>same unit, like you're gonna make profits. So that's kind

0:39:22.960 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 3>of what I'm thinking about, and I'll be sending those

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 3>of my subscribers when I do, so I'm not totally

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 3>sure yet. I want to kind of wait because it's

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 3>so early, But again, use the King of Sportsbooks. All

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 3>these lines are available, so if you're hearing lines that

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 3>you want to take, you can get some free money

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 3>by using code JB fans. Let's get back to the

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 3>mail bag questions. Another really good one, and this one

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 3>I grabbed because I was like, I just want to

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 3>ask oh about this one. I think we all agree

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:53.799
<v Speaker 3>that both teams benefited from the Gallon Jazz Chisholm trade.

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 3>That was Zach Gallen for Jazz Chisholm, but on a

0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 3>neutral franchise. Which player would you rather have? That was

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 3>asked by at NATS eventually, which is a great Eventually.

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 3>I agree eventually that was him on Twitter. Go over

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.359
<v Speaker 3>the trade kind of what happened, and then we'll answer

0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 3>who we'd rather have.

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, I mean, so Zach Gallen originally came over

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>in that package with Sandy a contra U, Magnari Sierra

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>and Dan Costano for Marcelo Zuna from the Cardinals. That's

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 2>a rare occasion of the Cardinals giving up a lot there.

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.240
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think they thought Sandy would become Sandy,

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and definitely didn't think Gallen would become Gallon. He was

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.800
<v Speaker 2>a pitch ability over stuff guy. Something just really clicked

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 2>with Gallon. The story was that he got stung by

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 2>a bee and like that was his joke and he

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:45.400
<v Speaker 2>saw his Vilow tick up in spring training, so they

0:40:45.440 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 2>called him be man like. It just something happened there

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 2>and he saw this uptick and in his first handful

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>of start to the Marlins, he was unbelievable. I think

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the Marlins thought like, Okay, maybe this isn't sustainable. We'll

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 2>have a ton of pitching. Let's cash this in. So

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 2>they try right him for Jazz Chisholm, who at the

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 2>time was kind of struggling a little bit in Double

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 2>A but showing big power and stealing bags and looks

0:41:06.640 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 2>really really dynamic, and so they kind of make that

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 2>trade and Jazz eventually makes his way up. Gallon obviously

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 2>does what he has been doing for the Arizona Diamondbacks,

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 2>and I think both teams are are happy. I think

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 2>for the Marlins perspective, it's we're talking neutral franchise, so

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 2>we got to remove this aspect of it. But the

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Marlins have their most marketable player in a long time,

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 2>and that goes a long way for that franchise beyond

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 2>what we see on the field. From a pure baseball perspective,

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 2>you have to look at it this way, right, we

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be putting him in center. That's first of all,

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 2>if I'm if I'm another, if I'm a neutral franchise

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.360
<v Speaker 2>that just acquired Jazz Chisholm for Zach Gallen, I'm not

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>putting him in Centiven. Feel he's a second baseman. Maybe

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:47.399
<v Speaker 2>I try him it short even, but I'm probably playing

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 2>him at second. So that's what He's an all star

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 2>second basement. Yes, that's number one. So that's number one.

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 2>The second thing is how sold are you on this

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Zach Gallan? Because now this is this he's following up

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 2>what was a breakout, breakout year last year. I know

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 2>he showed flashes of being fantastic. There's been some concerns

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 2>about his elbow and health, but he won one hundred

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 2>and eight four innings last year to two five four. Realistically,

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 2>that is probably more valuable if he sustains that. To

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 2>start this year, he's been pretty damn good. I think

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.680
<v Speaker 2>you got to kind of ignore the slow start from Jazz.

0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>He's already heating up. I think he's had a great

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.080
<v Speaker 2>game as we're recording this at a great game of

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 2>the day before that. I think he's going to be

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.399
<v Speaker 2>something between what we saw in the first half last

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 2>year and obviously what we're seeing right now, which is

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:36.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, well above average, regular, borderline all star, twenty

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 2>five years old, power hitting shortstop, second, really second basement

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.239
<v Speaker 2>that can go twenty twenty. I think I'd rather have

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Gallon though, Like that's just the reality of.

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 3>It at the end of the day. And I'm going

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 3>to simplify this down and you know, we can, you know,

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 3>go over the margins and see truly, you know, age

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 3>contract all that kind of stuff. Starting pitching wins championships. Yeah,

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 3>I'll say that till the day I die. When I

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 3>bet on an individual game, what do you look at? First?

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:08.280
<v Speaker 3>The starting pitcher. It matters so much in Major League baseball.

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 3>The starting pitcher, I think is the most valuable asset

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:15.719
<v Speaker 3>in all of baseball. You could argue that the shortstop

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 3>or the catcher might be maybe this gold Glove center fielder,

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:24.839
<v Speaker 3>it's the starter, Like even if Jazz was I don't know, Like,

0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 3>let's talk about some Major League Baseball players who like

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 3>position players, who'd rather have over a guy like Zach Gallen.

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:36.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think of who on the Cardinals where

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, we keep bringing them up, Who on the

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 3>Cardinals would you take over Zach Gallen?

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like, Goldie. I mean, but I see what you're saying, Like,

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't either have Tommy Edmond or Zach Gallen Zach

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 2>mc gallen. Yeah, I even looking at the second base

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 2>position as a whole, that the whole league. Would you

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 2>rather have there's a few guys obviously I'd rather have

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 2>out two Obviously I would rather.

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Have would you rather have all?

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Andreez, I'd rather have Andre Semenez. I think would

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 2>you a six war position player? Yeah, McNeil, I'd rather.

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Have Dollan than McNeil.

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Jeff McNeil plays every day, Like I do think that

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.560
<v Speaker 2>pitching is super valuable, But I think that's where I

0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 2>draw the line pretty much though.

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's it's jazz.

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really it's nothing on jazz, but it's it's

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 2>second basement. If we go shortstop, I could lest you

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 2>a ton of shortstops I'd rather have, but it's second me.

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'm so like I love pitching so much that

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I don't know if i'd rather have Andre

0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Semnez than Gallon. Like I think, if you have an eight,

0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:47.280
<v Speaker 3>if you have a guy who looks like an ace,

0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:49.800
<v Speaker 3>and it's not even that he looks like he's pitching

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 3>like an ace. Pitch like an ace last year, and

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 3>he is already off to a good start, had a

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 3>rough go in the first couple of starts because his

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:56.719
<v Speaker 3>vlows down. Then it ticked up, and now he just

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 3>looks unbelieva. It looks unhittable, like against the Marlins offense,

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Like with Joe about the Marlins offense. They've been great

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 3>this year.

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Like, yeah, I think it's more my concern about, like

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:07.680
<v Speaker 2>the sustainability of Zach Gollen.

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.720
<v Speaker 3>That's fair, that's fair. I'm more thinking about starting pitchers

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 3>as a whole and not looking.

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if he's if it's a true true ace

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 2>to fuck Andre Samenez. But how sure are you the

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Zach Allen's going to continue this? He's a really interesting case. Yeah,

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 2>he when his command, like his command is really impressive,

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's what what's really kind of helped him here.

0:45:26.000 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, like you talked about the view

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 2>of being down, it's a little sporadic. He's he's a

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 2>little bit of that like makes me nervous with the

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 2>arm kind of guy. It's a tough one regardless. The

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:41.960
<v Speaker 2>answer is I would rather have Gallon than Jazz, because

0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 2>you could trade Gallon for more than Jazz, I think

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 2>at this point, especially with the control and where he's at.

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.080
<v Speaker 2>So while both teams did well, I don't think the

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Marlins would undo it because of what Jazz means to

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 2>their franchise now in terms of just having a bat

0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>that they can't mess up and having the marketability there

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 2>neutral franchise. Give me Zach Gallen, right, like, give me

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 2>the frontline guy, even if he's closer to a two

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:08.279
<v Speaker 2>or three, that's still extremely valuable. To your point, I'd

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>rather have Gallen.

0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:11.640
<v Speaker 3>The way you talk about the Marlins is gonna make

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 3>me laugh for the rest of my life. Like a

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.719
<v Speaker 3>bat they can't mess up like that is just gonna

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:19.920
<v Speaker 3>make me laugh forever. How about a bat that at

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:23.359
<v Speaker 3>least this person thinks his own team is messing up.

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 3>Question number six. Spencer Torkelsen is off to a really

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 3>bad start for the Detroit Tigers. His on base percentage

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 3>is barely over two hundred. Are we out on him officially?

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:38.720
<v Speaker 3>Is he maybe a change of scenery guy? Not ruling

0:46:38.719 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 3>out Detroit's development being a big part of the problem.

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 3>Asked by Matt Alec Gold on Twitter.

0:46:47.120 --> 0:46:48.799
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you start on this one. What do you think?

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 2>How do is he twenty three to twenty four, twenty

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.760
<v Speaker 2>three years, seven months, twenty three days.

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 3>How can I give up on a guy like that

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:02.840
<v Speaker 3>who at Arizona State I thought was a freaking missile.

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:06.880
<v Speaker 3>This guy was one of the best college hitters ever

0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 3>in the last half decade. I mean it was just

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 3>every single day. Like we talk about Dylan Cruz, right,

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:15.680
<v Speaker 3>we talk about Tommy Tanks at LSU. Just more LSU guys,

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Jack Aglion of Florida. You know why at Langford? You

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.359
<v Speaker 3>know the kid at UNC. I don't know why I'm

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 3>forgetting his name right now? Who's the kid at you see?

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Honey?

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Vance honeycut Yeah. I don't know how got his

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 3>name because he's a freaking nature. But these guys are

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:35.320
<v Speaker 3>all great college players, like that guy like Dylan Cruz,

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 3>who's the camp miss guy that was Torque at ASU.

0:47:38.680 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 3>Just like it didn't matter if he could never play

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:43.359
<v Speaker 3>a position, because he's going to hit forty bombs. I

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 3>just think it's he's off to a slow start, and

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I know it's crazy, Like Jeremy Peney is two years

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 3>older than him. It took him a little while. He

0:47:52.640 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 3>might just be a little bit of a late bloomer.

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.240
<v Speaker 2>He broke Barry Bond's freshman home run record in Arizona

0:47:59.280 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 2>State with twenty five.

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 3>I just, you know, it's so hard to say. And

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.760
<v Speaker 3>but the thing is, what's so tough about this question,

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:11.040
<v Speaker 3>and why I know he's asking it is because it's

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:14.400
<v Speaker 3>been horrible. It's not just been ups and downs. There

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:18.720
<v Speaker 3>have been no ups. It's just been a steady, bad

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:22.000
<v Speaker 3>batch of baseball from Spencer Torkilsen. And you can say,

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:25.719
<v Speaker 3>all right, you're one, throw it out the window. It

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 3>hasn't gotten good this year, and he's not really doing

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 3>much anyway. So it's it's a really tough question because

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:34.800
<v Speaker 3>there's a part of me that says, oh, don't worry

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 3>about it at all. But I've watched Tigers games because

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:39.719
<v Speaker 3>I freaking bet on them all the time. I even

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 3>tweeted on a drunk on Tiger's buddy line. Yeah it

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:45.479
<v Speaker 3>doesn't look good on him. It does not look good.

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>It's I do wonder too, how much being a young

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:54.320
<v Speaker 2>power hitter and being thrust it into Kamerica Park where

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 2>your power goes to die, how much that pressure kind

0:48:57.719 --> 0:49:00.120
<v Speaker 2>of mounts on you as a young hitter. You know,

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 2>we kind of saw it with Riley Green in early going,

0:49:02.040 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 2>who also was his can't miss of a bat. He

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:06.239
<v Speaker 2>looks really he's starting to get better and get rolling

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:08.360
<v Speaker 2>here too. And Homer today was hitting.

0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 3>Like two fifty. I feel like he grounds on every bat. Frustrating,

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 3>starting to get going, yeah, but.

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:15.840
<v Speaker 2>That was like a can't miss bat as well. So

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.759
<v Speaker 2>the two can't miss bats are missing right now. Like

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 2>that's scary. I do think America like has that mental

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 2>impact on some young hitters, especially power guys. But what

0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 2>stands out to me, especially this year, is how aggressive

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Spencer Torklssen has been. Thirty four percent chase right, small sample,

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:37.680
<v Speaker 2>but it's early fifty three percent swing rate is way

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 2>too high. He's just trying to do too much. He's

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 2>he's walked once because he's swinging at everything, and like,

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:48.359
<v Speaker 2>that's not how Spencer Towarklesen was successful. That's not how

0:49:48.400 --> 0:49:51.280
<v Speaker 2>he got to where he is. He walked, he was patient,

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 2>he crushed mistakes, and he's just a good, well rounded hitter.

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 2>That's not who we're seeing. So I do feel like

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.880
<v Speaker 2>he he is in cro coaching on the change of

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:05.560
<v Speaker 2>scenery candidate area. I still don't think like if Jared

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Kelnick could figure it out, which it looks like he is,

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Spencer Torklsen can figure it out. But it is getting

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 2>a little bit alarming here. When you have a guy

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:15.560
<v Speaker 2>that's swinging right now, it's sixty two percent of fastballs.

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.800
<v Speaker 2>Sixty two percent of fastballs he's swinging at. That tells

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:22.280
<v Speaker 2>me either one, he's just trying to do too much,

0:50:22.320 --> 0:50:25.239
<v Speaker 2>which is I think part of the answer. Two he

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want anything to do with breaking balls, so every

0:50:27.719 --> 0:50:30.240
<v Speaker 2>fastball he sees he's he's swinging, He's like, I'm jumping

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.959
<v Speaker 2>on this one. So he just doesn't seem to feel right.

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 2>And the Tigers development is among the worst. They have

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 2>a new guy at the helm here in Scott Harris,

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 2>who I do believe in, and I think you're seeing

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:42.640
<v Speaker 2>the difference, but I don't know if that's kind of

0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.600
<v Speaker 2>made its way to Torq yet. It's also a team

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:47.840
<v Speaker 2>that has had seems like it has some issues in

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 2>the clubhouse. I mean, we saw a Jay Hinch just

0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:52.520
<v Speaker 2>come out and hang out the vets to dry, hang

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:56.879
<v Speaker 2>out everybody to dry, and sometimes that stuff's contagious. I'm

0:50:56.920 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 2>not I'm not saying Torque's cooked, but I am starting

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 2>to wonder if it's gonna happen in Detroit.

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:07.200
<v Speaker 3>That's fair, will it happen in Detroit? But Tigers fans,

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 3>I can't give up on him. I just can't. He

0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 3>is he was too special in college. He was such

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 3>a good talent, like I don't.

0:51:16.320 --> 0:51:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Know in the minor leagues, I mean, ops and and

0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 2>and between high A, double A and triple A and

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:24.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one.

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:26.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm so glad you brought up Kelnick because we're seeing

0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 3>what Kelnic can do. Correct me if I'm wrong, but

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't think I am. Spencer Torkusen was a better

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 3>offensive prospect than he was.

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:36.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean one hundred percent. I mean people would

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:39.759
<v Speaker 2>have until Kelnick was at the very very end, and

0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 2>even then I still think I still think people would

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 2>have said torus a safer, safer offensive prospect.

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:48.960
<v Speaker 3>There you go, So we aren't giving up hope yet.

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Very breath, breathe. It's gonna be okay. It's fourteen games,

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 2>it's a slow start to this year. It's cold. I

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:57.360
<v Speaker 2>think he'll be fine.

0:51:57.719 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 3>It's cold. It is cold. And he's a he's a

0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:03.960
<v Speaker 3>weather guy. Our last question, and it was so funny.

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 3>We had seven Orioles questions and they were all surrounding

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 3>the same thing. So I apologized we didn't credit you,

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.640
<v Speaker 3>but there was so many that I'm just like, all right,

0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:17.920
<v Speaker 3>let's just tackle this. Yeah you put dash everyone, Yeah,

0:52:18.040 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 3>dash everyone. Because it was the teams that asked the

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:25.800
<v Speaker 3>most questions Cardinals and Orioles, and Orioles almost doubled the Cardinals,

0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:30.400
<v Speaker 3>and the Cardinals tripled every other team, So tons of

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 3>oose questions. Basically, this is what it is. What do

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:37.800
<v Speaker 3>they do with the litany of infield prospects? And which

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 3>picture should they get?

0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so let me start with I think this is

0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. This is the first domino, and I'll start

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 2>with a question back to you. Are you buying what

0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:50.919
<v Speaker 2>Jorge Matteo is selling. I know you guys talked about

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:54.040
<v Speaker 2>it the other episode. Are you buying it? Because that's

0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.400
<v Speaker 2>the first step of this entire thing that we have

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 2>to go.

0:52:56.719 --> 0:53:02.359
<v Speaker 4>Through here, like kinda like he's so dynamic because even

0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 4>if he's not hitting, it's not like, oh he's a

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:06.880
<v Speaker 4>hole at shortstop or he's not running he's a demon

0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 4>on the base pass.

0:53:07.600 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 3>I used that with Jack. That word. It's like there

0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:10.759
<v Speaker 3>are a couple of demons.

0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:13.719
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna steal fifty bags this year. He's gonna stay and.

0:53:13.680 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 3>He's great defensively, so even if he doesn't hit, he

0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 3>provides value. And he's hitting and he looks good and

0:53:20.680 --> 0:53:22.360
<v Speaker 3>it's not like this guy came out of nowhere. He

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:27.440
<v Speaker 3>was a good prospect and he's really developing. This is

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:32.279
<v Speaker 3>an incredibly tough situation, but it's a good situation of

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:35.799
<v Speaker 3>being if you're a trouble and paradise. And then of

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.480
<v Speaker 3>course Adam Fraser's just getting abs and you know, an

0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 3>Oils fan put a curse on me when Adam Fraser

0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:44.640
<v Speaker 3>was doing well. He was like, if you don't give

0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Adam Fraser his praise, we're putting the Adam Fraser curse

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 3>on you. I was afraid I'm gonna start losing bets.

0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 3>They put a curse on me arm because I wouldn't

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:55.240
<v Speaker 3>apologize crazy for Adam Fraser.

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty funny. I mean, dude, so mateo Fullman, all right,

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:03.760
<v Speaker 2>a one point zero four through fourteen games. You mentioned

0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:06.520
<v Speaker 2>the defense. His strikeout rates down ten percent, to start

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:09.400
<v Speaker 2>the year. And look, I don't know if that part sustainable,

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 2>but I do think that the swing rate being down

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.719
<v Speaker 2>as a legitimate alteration in his approach, him realizing, Okay,

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I need to stop swinging at everything and I can

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:19.160
<v Speaker 2>still be that get on base guy. And he is,

0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:22.200
<v Speaker 2>and he's really been setting the table and making a difference.

0:54:22.600 --> 0:54:24.840
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna steal fifty bags and he's gonna play a

0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:27.760
<v Speaker 2>lead defensive short You're not moving that guy from shortstop

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 2>unless he hits a damn wall. So what do you

0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:33.360
<v Speaker 2>do with the other guys. You've got Joey Ortiz, who's

0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 2>elite defensively as well, a really good bat to ball

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:40.920
<v Speaker 2>guy in triple a very impressive prospect. You've got Connor Norby,

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:43.800
<v Speaker 2>who's limited to second base more so but hit twenty

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:47.360
<v Speaker 2>seven homers last year, absolutely rakes. Then you got Jordan Westburg,

0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 2>who could play all over fast, above average power average

0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 2>or better hitter. All those guys rake and are really interesting.

0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:00.120
<v Speaker 2>The question is do you want to move those guys guy,

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:02.239
<v Speaker 2>because at the end of the day, like they've tried

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Westburg a little bit in the outfield, he could potentially

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:07.440
<v Speaker 2>play left. I don't know what they can do with

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Norby and Ortiz. A lot of Ortiz's value comes from

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:13.399
<v Speaker 2>short I know they like Ortiz more than Westburg from

0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:16.640
<v Speaker 2>what I understand, Like, you could get a lot of

0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 2>players with those packs, with those prospects, you could get

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:23.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot. But do you trade just to trade? Know

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 2>what pictures are going to be available that have a

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:30.040
<v Speaker 2>ton of control that make it worth it? I don't

0:55:30.040 --> 0:55:33.280
<v Speaker 2>know either, Like that's the interesting part. Like the Orioles,

0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:35.440
<v Speaker 2>you don't want to just give up an asset. I

0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 2>know it's a surplus, but it's a valuable asset just

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 2>to do it. But how long can you sit on

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:42.800
<v Speaker 2>those guys because several of them are going to be

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of bored in the minor leagues at a certain point,

0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:49.399
<v Speaker 2>specifically Joey Ortiz as he continues to get going here,

0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:50.880
<v Speaker 2>like that guy's going to be ready to go. But

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:53.319
<v Speaker 2>I could see them just dashing them in triple all year.

0:55:55.000 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 3>There is one name who I keep thinking about, Shane

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:03.719
<v Speaker 3>Bieber available. We're trying to win, they're trying to win

0:56:03.719 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 3>the division. I know they're trying to win the division,

0:56:05.920 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 3>but they're also the Guardians, right. The Guardians have been

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:11.080
<v Speaker 3>prone to make No, they haven't been prone to I

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:12.600
<v Speaker 3>guess make big miss those.

0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Of a billion in field prospects too.

0:56:14.680 --> 0:56:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah they do. Maybe that's a bad, bad idea. I'm

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:21.480
<v Speaker 3>just thinking about four aces, like I'm grasping at straws here.

0:56:21.520 --> 0:56:24.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to make some sort of mock trade, like

0:56:24.520 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 3>who who's a great pitcher? Who's worthy of all of

0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:33.040
<v Speaker 3>these incredible interfield prospects, Because it's like, yeah, you could

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:34.919
<v Speaker 3>trade it like a Jordan Westburg and get a three,

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 3>and like, I don't know how much that helps. I'm

0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 3>thinking about like a game changing I would paid who

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:43.680
<v Speaker 3>would have been? So I'm just like, yeah, you could

0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 3>tear down Shane Bieber and you're probably But it's like then, who,

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:48.240
<v Speaker 3>I guess.

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:50.799
<v Speaker 2>So I got a team for you. The San Francisco

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Giants need. If they didn't extend Logan web that would

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:59.480
<v Speaker 2>have been the perfect perfect example. They yeah they did.

0:57:00.440 --> 0:57:02.239
<v Speaker 2>The thing is is they need a shortstop in the

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:04.400
<v Speaker 2>worst way. They're moving their third base prospect right now

0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:07.759
<v Speaker 2>to shortstop in Casey Schmidt, like Logan Webb would have

0:57:07.760 --> 0:57:13.719
<v Speaker 2>been the perfect perfect example, but now he's he's not available.

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Most likely, I don't know if there's anything out there

0:57:17.880 --> 0:57:21.240
<v Speaker 2>for them for those guys, Like, that's the problem, So

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 2>what do you do? And that's the most fascinating aspect

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 2>of it, don't I don't know if it's a prospect

0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:30.200
<v Speaker 2>for prospect deal that they could eventually make. I don't

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 2>know if it's it's something else, but it seems like

0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 2>right now the only way that they're gonna be able

0:57:34.680 --> 0:57:37.800
<v Speaker 2>to upgrade the pitching is through short rentals, and you're

0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:40.000
<v Speaker 2>not trading any of those guys for short rentals. So

0:57:40.200 --> 0:57:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I know that's a common question, but it's kind of

0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 2>part of the reason why we haven't really seen anything happen.

0:57:44.120 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Pabo again, Pabo Lopez was the guy to go try

0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:48.480
<v Speaker 2>to do it for, but the Marlins wanted big league talent,

0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:51.800
<v Speaker 2>so that wasn't gonna line up. And I don't know

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:55.360
<v Speaker 2>if there's really any other teams, maybe the Braves, Like,

0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:57.240
<v Speaker 2>maybe you could work out a deal if the Braves

0:57:57.280 --> 0:57:59.520
<v Speaker 2>feel better about, you know, what they've got going on

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 2>pitching wise, Maybe a Bryce Elter for one of those guys,

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:05.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe you put him.

0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:07.480
<v Speaker 3>You got von Grissel at Ozzie Alby's at Austin, Riley

0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:10.480
<v Speaker 3>and Matt Olsen here was my thinking. This won't happen.

0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 3>But we're just talking. What would it take for Kyle

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Harrison from the Giants? What would it take for Max

0:58:16.160 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Meyer from the Marlins? Right teams we hire, I think,

0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 3>who need offense like prospect for prospect deals. Again, it

0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:26.520
<v Speaker 3>won't happen. I don't know why. It doesn't like teams

0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:30.520
<v Speaker 3>should have more prospects in one position with other teams

0:58:30.520 --> 0:58:32.320
<v Speaker 3>that have a ton of prospects and not like make

0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:36.320
<v Speaker 3>a deal help both sides. So I'm just I'm spitballing.

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Here is the best scenario I think is to do

0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 2>a prospect for prospect deal. The problem is I know

0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:44.840
<v Speaker 2>more about my prospect, you know more about your prospect,

0:58:45.000 --> 0:58:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and we're always gonna be wary about swapping them. Why

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:48.360
<v Speaker 2>does he want to trade me this prospect?

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:49.200
<v Speaker 3>And that's why it doesn't happen.

0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:51.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a great PI, that's why. But there could be

0:58:51.080 --> 0:58:54.200
<v Speaker 2>a scenario where that does happen. I would do like

0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 2>a Max Meyer for Connor Norby, and in two seconds,

0:58:56.800 --> 0:58:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I would do Maximyer for Jordan Westberg in two seconds.

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:00.640
<v Speaker 2>I would do Max Meyer for for any of those

0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:02.640
<v Speaker 2>guys in two seconds. And I think there's teams out

0:59:02.640 --> 0:59:05.160
<v Speaker 2>there with some pitching talent that would consider doing that.

0:59:05.680 --> 0:59:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Harrison's off to a bit of a slow start.

0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the Giants consider it. That might be the best

0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:15.560
<v Speaker 2>way to do it for the Orioles, this prospect for prospects,

0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:19.160
<v Speaker 2>and I've read about teams considering that through the offseason.

0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Nothing materialized with some other teams that were considering prospect

0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:24.400
<v Speaker 2>for prospects. But I think the Orioles might be the

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 2>team that's willing to do that, and I think it

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:27.680
<v Speaker 2>would be a really smart thing to do where they're

0:59:27.680 --> 0:59:28.400
<v Speaker 2>at in the rebuild.

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