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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are inside the s
Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage studio. And yes, it's time to stampede into
Speaker 1: another edition of mix Shots. Bad guys, I think we're
Speaker 1: kind of we're kind of running this into the ground.
Speaker 1: I think you need to revisit this. I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wasn't we need to revisit this decision. Maybe after
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I wasn't expecting it today, still can't
Speaker 1: get over it refers to the Senior Bowl at the
Speaker 1: beginning of it. But but hey, we're pasting. That's Chris
Speaker 1: doing that. That's right, all right, that's Chris doing that.
Speaker 1: Then he's stuck on he's stuck in a loop that
Speaker 1: that's right, all right. So I'm about convinced the Cowboys
Speaker 1: aren't going to make it to this super Bowl. It's
Speaker 1: the Thursday before the Super Bowl, and I don't think
Speaker 1: they're gonna make it. But apparently we've got one out
Speaker 1: there in LA. It's gonna say, it looks like we're
Speaker 1: not making it either. But I'm sure big timers got
Speaker 1: appearances to make this week. That's right. Man. You know
Speaker 1: I can close the coatain here if you guys are
Speaker 1: feeling kind of left out, you know, if that would
Speaker 1: make you feel better. Hey, you know what ever is
Speaker 1: doing right now. He's there in a hotel room in LA.
Speaker 1: He's waiting for that knock at the door. Oh man,
Speaker 1: that's brutal, because that's cutting be pretty deep. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: got me pretty dam Let me tell you I have
Speaker 1: filled up my notebook, okay today with the finalists, with
Speaker 1: the accolades of the finalists for the Pro Football Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, And we'll find out tonight who the newest
Speaker 1: class members are. And I'm telling you, I got Everson
Speaker 1: Walls on the list here, and Everson could easily be
Speaker 1: in this and then like it, right, yeah, and you
Speaker 1: know what, I don't think so wait, wait, wait, let's
Speaker 1: let's be clear. Let's be clear. I could be on
Speaker 1: that list for the past fifteen years. That's right, let's
Speaker 1: be clear about it. That's right. So I went through
Speaker 1: the whole list and we'll get into it over the
Speaker 1: course of the next hour. And then I went to
Speaker 1: Everson's accolades, as Everson he not only shouldn't should be
Speaker 1: in in this class, he should have been in fifteen
Speaker 1: classes ago. That's it, brother, preach to him, build very much. Well,
Speaker 1: that's gonna use you next time for my team. Walls
Speaker 1: on paying there you go, Yeah, this would be a
Speaker 1: good year not to go in because you're probably not
Speaker 1: getting a knock at the door. Yeah, how are they
Speaker 1: doing it now? Well, they're going to announce it tonight
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock on the Honor Show. So my understanding,
Speaker 1: that's when they're gonna find because what they did last
Speaker 1: year they had because of COVID, they couldn't have David
Speaker 1: Baker go everywhere and it was all a virtual thing anyway,
Speaker 1: and so they would have former like they did it
Speaker 1: ahead of time. Well, they did it ahead of time,
Speaker 1: and I believe it was Roger who surprised Drew with it,
Speaker 1: and they would have former players from the organization. Yeah,
Speaker 1: central hotel. They were at a central hotel they did
Speaker 1: it was just in their hometown. Whatever they did like
Speaker 1: a week ahead of time or two weeks ahead of time.
Speaker 1: They filmed like they brought Drew into here, and that's
Speaker 1: when Rodgers snuck up behind them and surprised. Right, and
Speaker 1: there was David Baker did all of them. David Baker
Speaker 1: did it. He did it, but he snuck up behind
Speaker 1: him while he was talking to Drew right. So right,
Speaker 1: But but I think Roger was there too. They would
Speaker 1: they had a former Roger that was there. I thought
Speaker 1: you when you said Theyd Goodell, Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: my god, come on back. So Baker was ign Baker
Speaker 1: was n correct, Yes he retired, Yes he did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So okay, so who who who takes over? Now? I
Speaker 1: was reading up on it last night and I never
Speaker 1: could figure out how they're doing. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they named somebody there. There was a reference to former
Speaker 1: players surprising whoever the new members are. Oh and so man,
Speaker 1: maybe they're continuing that. I don't know. But but you're
Speaker 1: saying you're you're hearing that they I didn't hear. I
Speaker 1: checked with PR and they didn't sound like, you know,
Speaker 1: they were gonna know who was getting it. For instance,
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware, who obviously is a finalist tonight, he won't
Speaker 1: until everybody else knows. Is that what yourself? Maybe he knows,
Speaker 1: but we're not good well yeah, right right, And I
Speaker 1: don't know that they're flying, and I don't know the hotel.
Speaker 1: We'll find that out. I don't think so, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Right because of COVID. Hmm, everything's because
Speaker 1: of COVID. Alright. Ali has been cracking down on it
Speaker 1: for quite some carrying your car to rock and believe that.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of events, yes laminated all right,
Speaker 1: good um, all right, So we're gonna get into the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame stuff on this edition of Mixed Shots, Mickey,
Speaker 1: what else would you like to get into? Right off
Speaker 1: the top here, Well, it's been a while since we
Speaker 1: last convened. It was a WEE could go Monday, the
Speaker 1: Monday after the Conference Championship games is when we last
Speaker 1: got The world could have ended and we wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been able to cover it. Right, it's been so long, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh um so wait, how many people picked the
Speaker 1: Rams to be in the super Bowl, like back in August? No,
Speaker 1: I mean between us like you, you are the only
Speaker 1: one I never said, yeah, let's give proms. I thought
Speaker 1: that ever, Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: checking because you know, it's been a while since I've
Speaker 1: seen you guys. I just want to make sure I
Speaker 1: don't misspoke. That's right. He Everson had the Rams versus
Speaker 1: I don't think you picked the Bengals, did you. I
Speaker 1: think everybody had the check. I did not. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I did not. And so by the end of the show,
Speaker 1: we will make our picks for the Super Bowl. Although
Speaker 1: I haven't given it much thought, and they won the games,
Speaker 1: we may have already you know, we might already, we
Speaker 1: might already have gone over it. But I just so
Speaker 1: disappointed in how I just thought this year. You know,
Speaker 1: when you look at how everything and when came about,
Speaker 1: no one went into the playoffs with momentum the way
Speaker 1: we always think that they should. You know, anyone that
Speaker 1: did have momentum, they went out in the first round.
Speaker 1: And so you know, we start talking about the inconsistencies
Speaker 1: coming from the Cowboys. Well, hell, everybody was inconsistent going
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. So when you look at that, you
Speaker 1: just think about just how close the Cowboys could have
Speaker 1: come to at least going to the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 1: With all of the mishaps during the season, the inconsistencies
Speaker 1: from every team, every every big player, you know, no
Speaker 1: one had a streak going in except for the dog
Speaker 1: one kicker for the Cincinnati Bengals. Otherwise everyone was inconsistent
Speaker 1: in their play And that's why this could have been
Speaker 1: our year. Guys, this could have been our year. And
Speaker 1: that's why I keep getting answered asked the question, especially
Speaker 1: on some radio things they do, about what's the difference between,
Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys and these teams that are in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And so it makes me pause because
Speaker 1: exactly what you said about no one streaked into the playoffs, right, Uh,
Speaker 1: the fact that they had home field advantage. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: guess what Green Bay lost at home? Tampa Bay lost
Speaker 1: at home, Tennessee lost at home. Right, tell me the
Speaker 1: teams that had home field advantage that survived, can you
Speaker 1: say Kansas City? Kansas City at home? Right? So, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: home field advantage this year didn't mean squat uh in
Speaker 1: in these playoffs. Now, the Rams end up winning at
Speaker 1: home over San Francisco, but they went went to Tampa
Speaker 1: to win, right previously, and San Francisco won their games
Speaker 1: on the road to get to the game. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it look to me and I think Everson pointed this
Speaker 1: out last Monday, if I could remember that far back,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, what you know, other than not scoring
Speaker 1: enough points, you know, what was the difference between the
Speaker 1: Cowboys moving on and being sent home. Teams made plays
Speaker 1: at times they had to make plays, and the Cowboys didn't.
Speaker 1: And to me, that was the difference, no matter how
Speaker 1: poorly they played on the offensive line, how poorly they
Speaker 1: ran the football. The defense at the end, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody you know tapped and patting the defense on the back.
Speaker 1: But in the game that counted. In the playoffs, when
Speaker 1: they had two opportunities to get San Francisco off the
Speaker 1: field in the fourth quarter after they came within six points,
Speaker 1: they allowed San Francisco to hog the ball for like
Speaker 1: six and a half minutes in two possessions, couldn't get
Speaker 1: them off the field. And by time they got them
Speaker 1: off the field, what was their thirteen seconds left or whatever?
Speaker 1: And forget the end of the game. How about the
Speaker 1: beginning of the game, Yeah, the whole quarters. How about
Speaker 1: how about the first drive of the game right where
Speaker 1: it was eleven yards a play. You know everybody's well,
Speaker 1: they didn't And I can handle that though I could,
Speaker 1: I could I could handle giving it up at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the game because even though just like you
Speaker 1: spoke about spags, at the end of the game, we
Speaker 1: still had a chance. Having said all of that, you know,
Speaker 1: we still had a chance to win that game. We
Speaker 1: still tried to show up and give us ourselves to
Speaker 1: a chance to score on at least the last play
Speaker 1: twenty five yard line. When it's all said, then we're
Speaker 1: still looking at the twenty five yard line, right. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about with inconsistencies. That happened to everyone.
Speaker 1: And the difference was the difference was was the matchups
Speaker 1: that we had on the field. Their guy whipped our guy.
Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with strategy, Okay, that was
Speaker 1: just all about guys not being able to beat the
Speaker 1: guy in front of them. That was at the end.
Speaker 1: That's when you talk about those last two drive spacks.
Speaker 1: Don't know, put yourself in position where you have to
Speaker 1: come back in the game. How about how about being
Speaker 1: ready to play right out of the right out of
Speaker 1: the shoot and uh and Parthy alluded to it in
Speaker 1: the press conference the day after the game, were he
Speaker 1: mentioned even though he said he first said, they they
Speaker 1: seemed I was a nervous They had angst is what
Speaker 1: he changed it to. Anxiety? Yeah, and don't don't have angst.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to play, you know. And I mean it
Speaker 1: showed right from the start. I mean you go back
Speaker 1: to the nine, nineteen ninety four NFC Championship game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the cowboy Troy Aikman played what people, a lot of
Speaker 1: people consider maybe the best game he ever played in
Speaker 1: his career. But don't fall behind twenty one enough to
Speaker 1: start the game, you know, Yeah, absolutely, And so yeah,
Speaker 1: answering they need their own boom box. Yes, And it
Speaker 1: gets back to speaking of Aikman. You know Elway was
Speaker 1: known throughout his career all these comebacks. Well I remember, uh, Troy, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know people would talk about Troy that, well, you
Speaker 1: know Troy didn't have those comebacks whatever. Well that's because
Speaker 1: they were ahead the whole game, you know. And so
Speaker 1: don't put yourself in position where you have to have
Speaker 1: all these fourth quarter comebacks. Don't have anks. Just go
Speaker 1: look at the Olympics, right, you know who don't start
Speaker 1: your event with anks? You know who doesn't have anks? Though,
Speaker 1: one of the quarterbacks in this Super Bowl Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have anks when he goes out of he's
Speaker 1: a little different. Yeah, he's a little different. So and
Speaker 1: and I wonder how many turn on necks he has
Speaker 1: in his in his closet. Yeah, right, And I guess
Speaker 1: he was. That's his game uniform. And Sunday he's like
Speaker 1: Tiger on Sunday. Yeah, he likes Tiger on Sunday. That's
Speaker 1: that's his go kick ass outfit. You know what. I
Speaker 1: since you brought up outfits and you brought up the Bengals.
Speaker 1: When I saw the video of them getting off their
Speaker 1: bus and going into the hotel for the first time,
Speaker 1: the first person that I recognized right away. No, it
Speaker 1: was Frank Pollock, the Cowboys former offensive lion coach that
Speaker 1: they sent packing unceremoniously sun out for Paulo Alexander ALEXANDRETI
Speaker 1: lasted seven games before they fired him, and Frank Pollock
Speaker 1: ended up going to Cincinnati, then the Jets, and then
Speaker 1: back to Cincinnati. And here he is in the in
Speaker 1: the in the Super Bowl. Yeah, but I saw him saying,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't tell me that everyone saw this
Speaker 1: coming though, when you look at how Cincinnati started. Oh no,
Speaker 1: you look at how amazing Chase is playing right now.
Speaker 1: This guy plays his butt off, especially the last ten
Speaker 1: games of the season. If you were called when he
Speaker 1: first started, it got to camp, and even in the
Speaker 1: first game of the season, this guy's dropping balls all
Speaker 1: over the place. They were they weren't looking at him
Speaker 1: as a bust, but they were surely wondering if there
Speaker 1: was really something wrong with him to where he kept
Speaker 1: dropping all of these easy catchable balls. And now you
Speaker 1: look at him, he's one of the most dynamic players.
Speaker 1: Always was the most one of the more dynamic players,
Speaker 1: but now he's he's known for his consistent and see
Speaker 1: doing the big moments of the ball game. That's a
Speaker 1: total tournamount right there. Well, you want another total turnaround.
Speaker 1: What was the perception when the Rams made the trade
Speaker 1: for Matthew Stafford. What was the perception of Stafford? Well,
Speaker 1: he wasn't good enough. He can't carry a team. He's
Speaker 1: only been to the playoffs three times and you know
Speaker 1: they Detroit lost all three games. And now thirteenth year
Speaker 1: in the league, he's got his team in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So what's the difference, right, you think he's got a
Speaker 1: better team with him right now. It's not just all
Speaker 1: of a sudden he decided, oh I know how to
Speaker 1: play this game. All this crap about quarterbacks got to
Speaker 1: put teams on their back, and if you're making this
Speaker 1: much money, then you should have your team in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Well, it depends on who else you're playing with.
Speaker 1: He didn't just automatically get better. He's the same quarterback.
Speaker 1: He's got a better team along with him. Also, that's
Speaker 1: my Mickey was almost trying to prove a spa. He
Speaker 1: was almost proving everyone wrong about how this was a mistake.
Speaker 1: I'd say about a month before the season was over.
Speaker 1: You know he's going to pick six is left and right. Well,
Speaker 1: he tried to throw one in the championship game. His
Speaker 1: team wouldn't let him lose. Quasky Tart dropped one. All right, Mickey,
Speaker 1: what do you got on your legal pad there? Oh,
Speaker 1: I've got lots, I got Pro Bowl, I got Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to cut this team and get rid of
Speaker 1: players for salary cap reasons, and I see all these
Speaker 1: lists out there, Yeah, you can cut this guy and
Speaker 1: save this but they're not. They're not considering the dead
Speaker 1: money in these contracts that you've got to account for right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can count you can you know, say, okay, well
Speaker 1: if I if I let DeMarcus Lawrence go and I
Speaker 1: don't have to deal with his nineteen million dollars base salary,
Speaker 1: well I can say seven seven million dollars. Well, no,
Speaker 1: because there's nineteen million in dead money in his contract.
Speaker 1: So what you're telling me is that the Cardinals are
Speaker 1: not trading Kyler Murray to the Cowboys for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: Yeah wait, you saw that, don't tell Yes, yes, there
Speaker 1: there's a report out there that that Kyler wants to
Speaker 1: come to Dallas and play for the Cowboys. Well, the
Speaker 1: other way that would happen would be if the quarterback
Speaker 1: is leaving here. Go check out that the cap ramifications
Speaker 1: on that. Well, I think I think I wrote it down.
Speaker 1: Uh oh, I didn't write the nonsense down of what
Speaker 1: the cap hit would be, but it would be like
Speaker 1: seventy million dollars. Yeah, So what what everybody's gotten? What
Speaker 1: everybody's that's got to be a record. Yeah, what everybody's
Speaker 1: missing here is the Cowboys. All they need to do
Speaker 1: is restructure a couple of these contracts like they did
Speaker 1: last year. They're gonna do that again this year with Dak.
Speaker 1: He's got a twenty million dollar base salary and he's
Speaker 1: got a thirty four point four million dollar cap hit. Well,
Speaker 1: if you look at what they did last year, they
Speaker 1: ended up with redoing his base salary down to six
Speaker 1: point two five million, And so they take the money
Speaker 1: they pay them in a restructure bonus, and they divided
Speaker 1: over the length of the contracts. So say he's got
Speaker 1: five years left and they and they gave him a
Speaker 1: twenty million dollar restructure bonus. Well, now it's only four
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. That's got to account four and
Speaker 1: you're thinking, okay, for five more years, Dak's probably my quarterback,
Speaker 1: right the contract says that. So that's what they've got
Speaker 1: to do with his contract. That's what they got to
Speaker 1: do with DeMarcus Lawrence's contract, maybe even Zach Martin to
Speaker 1: save some money to get under the cap so they
Speaker 1: can start dealing in free agency. They don't need to
Speaker 1: start cutting people because you start cutting people then. And
Speaker 1: the other thing you've got to consider is the CAP's
Speaker 1: gonna go up next year a lot because the new
Speaker 1: TV contract is coming into play next year, meaning twenty
Speaker 1: three okay, not this year, next year, okay, okay. And
Speaker 1: so when you take this restructured a contract and you
Speaker 1: give them the signing bonus and then you spread it
Speaker 1: over the life of the contract, the the increase of
Speaker 1: the salary cap, which was hasn't happened over these last
Speaker 1: couple of years because of COVID, is going to get
Speaker 1: back to normal and you'll be able to absorb those, uh,
Speaker 1: those that extra money the restructure bonuses in people's contracts.
Speaker 1: So that's what they got to do. If you look at,
Speaker 1: for example, Zach Martin, his base salary this year is
Speaker 1: eleven point eight four million. Well last year they ended
Speaker 1: up converting nine point four million of his base salary
Speaker 1: into restructure bonus and they cleared seven million dollars in space.
Speaker 1: That's what they've got to start doing. But you got
Speaker 1: to do it with guys that you feel like in
Speaker 1: three or four years they're still going to be here
Speaker 1: to absorb the pro rated signing bonus that you gave
Speaker 1: these guys to lower their base salaries. But that's what
Speaker 1: they've got to do. You don't want to start cutting everybody,
Speaker 1: because you start cutting people and it's like, okay, cut
Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence, who's starting a defensive end because you
Speaker 1: don't have any guarantee that you're going to resign Randy Gregory, right,
Speaker 1: and you don't have any guarantee you're gonna go into
Speaker 1: the draft and find another Micael Parsons to play defensive
Speaker 1: end for you. And you've got enough trouble at linebacker
Speaker 1: right now. You've got enough trouble. You need help on
Speaker 1: the offensive line. You start cutting people, then you're creating
Speaker 1: more needs for a team that's gonna lose a lot
Speaker 1: of free agents. They got twenty four guys that are
Speaker 1: in some form of free agency, and you can't keep
Speaker 1: them all. It's not going to happen. This will not
Speaker 1: be the same team as it was last year. That's
Speaker 1: why Jerry said, and I thought this was very uh,
Speaker 1: you know, instructive. He said, if I could have the
Speaker 1: same team again with the same health and the same statistics,
Speaker 1: I take them into the playoffs again next year and again.
Speaker 1: But you're not going to have the same team. You're
Speaker 1: not going to have close to the same team next year.
Speaker 1: So just because you went why this year right? Exactly important?
Speaker 1: And here was the timing was perfect in regards to
Speaker 1: contracts and keeping his team together. And here was the
Speaker 1: other thing that he pointed out. And I had already
Speaker 1: written this the week before until something happened and I
Speaker 1: had to rewrite my column. I said, well, this will
Speaker 1: save this team was as healthy as you can expect
Speaker 1: for a team to be at the end of the season.
Speaker 1: And Jerry pointed out that his biggest disappointment was that
Speaker 1: we wasted a healthy team and not advancing in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And if you think about it, from the guys you
Speaker 1: projected at the start of the season, saved Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: because they moved on from him. The guys that you
Speaker 1: projected as starter, the only one that wasn't available in
Speaker 1: the final in that playoff game was Michael Gallop. They
Speaker 1: had everybody else on the field healthy, ready to play,
Speaker 1: and you can ask for more than that. And they
Speaker 1: wasted good health by not dancing in the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: as we know, there's no guarantee that you're going to
Speaker 1: be healthy again like this that they were this past
Speaker 1: season next year. Look at what happened in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Look at all the guys they lost when they got
Speaker 1: to the end of the season at twenty that wasn't
Speaker 1: even the same team. But this was the same team. Hey,
Speaker 1: and they actually got better defensively, which is hilarious, right,
Speaker 1: they were defensively during the end of the season. Yes,
Speaker 1: without the starters, So that's the one that you mentioned
Speaker 1: was gone. What's jal was going? Yeah? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: and that was their choice. That's right. He wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been a starter anyway at that point in the season.
Speaker 1: All right, We got much to get to and going
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Speaker 1: Next year play at Jacksonville. Announcement comes yesterday from the
Speaker 1: NFL that the league will play five regular season international games,
Speaker 1: Three of them will be played in London and one
Speaker 1: will be played in Mexico, and one will be played
Speaker 1: in Germany over the net course of the next four years.
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Speaker 1: in Munich and then in Frankfort. So my question to you,
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola is when I mentioned Jacksonville there, Okay, they're
Speaker 1: scheduled to play at Jacksonville. Well, that obviously is Jacksonville
Speaker 1: as a history of playing games in London, and it
Speaker 1: was announced yesterday that one of their games will be
Speaker 1: at Wimbley Stadium next year. All right, what are the
Speaker 1: chances that the Cowboys have an international game this season?
Speaker 1: I'm going to check my passport make sure it's up today.
Speaker 1: Let's go. So which one do you think? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: I might have to invite myself, right, I have to
Speaker 1: invite myself. Where would Jerry like to play? Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: sure he'd like to play that first game in Germany? Right,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. As important as the Mexico market
Speaker 1: is to the Cowboys, right, you still you have that market,
Speaker 1: You've done that. Yeah, those school grabbed that Germany market.
Speaker 1: So but you're you're putting two and two and getting
Speaker 1: five together with the Wembley. Uh, since they've got to
Speaker 1: play Jacksonville and that's who they played eight years ago.
Speaker 1: Was twenty fourteen when the cow that Jacksonville. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we keep try. Joseph Randall was on the time we made.
Speaker 1: We made We made so many friends out there in
Speaker 1: London with that Cowboys fan club. It's like they keep
Speaker 1: asking when you're coming back, when you're coming back. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: we want to come back. Um, that was a great trip,
Speaker 1: by the way, and if I remember correctly, we did
Speaker 1: uh and we only had I think at that time,
Speaker 1: one podcast going. We did it at a at a
Speaker 1: sports bar. Uh, like three or four nights in a row. Wow.
Speaker 1: And I don't think you guys. I bet with all
Speaker 1: the Cowboy club out there and the fans, I didn't
Speaker 1: buy a beer the whole time. And it's like I
Speaker 1: have so we gotta we have a chance to take
Speaker 1: mix shots to Germany. This is what you're telling me. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna take five shows too. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the problem me, you and Bill. That's right, you're
Speaker 1: telling me might have a chance. We have. We're part
Speaker 1: of the podcast family. Now we have a chance to
Speaker 1: be in Germany with the Cowboys. That's what you're telling me. Right,
Speaker 1: it's a possibility, possibility, all right. But here's the here's
Speaker 1: the problem with a Germany Cowboy game is okay, jackson
Speaker 1: Unless Jacksonville is gonna play more than one international game,
Speaker 1: right okay, and Jacksonville is already playing one in London,
Speaker 1: it would have to be a team the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: playing at that get to host the game in Germany
Speaker 1: because Jerry's not given up a home game, right And
Speaker 1: by the way, they have nine this coming seas. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: nine home games. And the NFL has also said that
Speaker 1: every team in the league will play an international game
Speaker 1: over an eight year period. Right, So you brought it
Speaker 1: up in the break, Let me present this, Okay, what
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys played in London and then stuck around
Speaker 1: in Europe and played in Germany as well, get two
Speaker 1: of their road games taken care of in one fell
Speaker 1: swoop in Europe. I would imagine Cowboys going on the
Speaker 1: World Tour. Huh. I would imagine that the second team
Speaker 1: they got to play would not be happy that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't have to travel overseas for the game, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I sort of like playing two games in a row.
Speaker 1: They did that year in UH in California. You know
Speaker 1: they're there. But they've talked about the NFL eventually expanding
Speaker 1: to Europe or this will be the test case for
Speaker 1: it goes over there and plays for two weeks there,
Speaker 1: which was the way the schedule would have to work
Speaker 1: out if you had an international team. So one game
Speaker 1: in Mexico, uh, one game in Germany, three in London.
Speaker 1: So that's five Munich and I think you mentioned they'll
Speaker 1: go Munich, Frankfort, Munich, Frankfort for four years. They didn't
Speaker 1: specifically say Mexico City, but no, no, it's good. I
Speaker 1: did say it's at where they played the preseason game, okay,
Speaker 1: the big stadium, Stecca Stadium. And then in Munich they're
Speaker 1: playing at Alliance Alliance Alliance. I guess maybe it's Alliance.
Speaker 1: I don't know how all I A Z stop stop
Speaker 1: stop anyway, oh yeah, stop, I'm sorry, just so yeah.
Speaker 1: So that'll be that'll be interesting of the stadium. Oh
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Douglas Barriclode just brought this in Buyer in Munich, Okay.
Speaker 1: That's where they'll be playing. That's the home of that's
Speaker 1: a rather famous soccer club. That looks like munching. That's
Speaker 1: not the way I wrote Munich down in right. Hey,
Speaker 1: you look like mudskin. Have you been to Germany? I
Speaker 1: have not. I have been to Germany. I did a
Speaker 1: couple of NFL Europe games in Germany two thousand and four. UM,
Speaker 1: and did one game and I actually did get paid. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did one game the Cologne Centurions. UM. And in fact,
Speaker 1: in fact, Jim tom Sula, who was the Cowboys defensive
Speaker 1: line coach of course last year, UM, he was the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator of Berlin Thunder. I did. I think I
Speaker 1: did two Berlin Thunder games. I did one in Cologne
Speaker 1: and one in Berlin. And it was fun. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Yeah, so but drink a beer. I I oh,
Speaker 1: I guess I could. Should I tell us? Tell it?
Speaker 1: You could tell it? I thought of this just the
Speaker 1: other day. Steve Burline did one of the games with me.
Speaker 1: He did the game. It was a great game, went
Speaker 1: right down to the wire somewhere. It's on YouTube, and
Speaker 1: uh so it was on It was on Mother's Day
Speaker 1: and Burline had a great line and this might have
Speaker 1: got him the job with CBS. Uh. You know, he's
Speaker 1: been broadcasting for ever since then for you know, doing
Speaker 1: games for CBS and stuff didn't get me a job there,
Speaker 1: but uh, probably because he had this great line. Whoever,
Speaker 1: it was a quarterback for the Cologne team. He threw
Speaker 1: a game winning touchdown pass and there was a great
Speaker 1: shot of the mom and dad in the stands and
Speaker 1: they had just had tears. This shows how important I mean.
Speaker 1: This was an NFL Europe game and we look at
Speaker 1: these oh that's a minor league whatever, but for these
Speaker 1: guys trying to make it in the NFL. This was
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I don't even remember his name. I think
Speaker 1: he played at Michigan State. So it was a really
Speaker 1: good college quarter back and he threw the game winning
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. We show a shot of the parents in
Speaker 1: the stands and they just got tears rolling down their
Speaker 1: cheek and uh and I said, what a Mother's day
Speaker 1: for the mom whatever, And then Berlin said, I think
Speaker 1: that took care of Father's Day too. I still remember
Speaker 1: that was two thousand and four, and uh, but not
Speaker 1: not quite the same as winning a gold medal in
Speaker 1: the Olympics, right right, and they show everybody crying here
Speaker 1: these last couple of days. But here it is. I mean,
Speaker 1: so that was eighteen years ago, and you know at
Speaker 1: the time they were talking about, well, you know, Germany
Speaker 1: would love to have NFL football there, and you know,
Speaker 1: you know, of course NFL Europe died shortly after that,
Speaker 1: and so now finally, uh, the NFL is going to
Speaker 1: play a regular season game there. Very good, yea, let's
Speaker 1: go yep, ready for it? All right? Uh, you had
Speaker 1: other things on your legal pad. Um, yeah, let's see
Speaker 1: what we got here. Don't forget Pro Bowl. Don't forget
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Okay, well let's go. Okay, Ever, since what
Speaker 1: do you got on the Pro Bowl. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1: I'm not either. I'm not a fan. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: had it. I just couldn't, you know, as I as
Speaker 1: I watched it, I was I had forgotten about how
Speaker 1: the tempo goes. I mean, you know, no one even
Speaker 1: goes to the ground. That kind of surprised me. And
Speaker 1: you know, I hadn't watching it so long I forgot that.
Speaker 1: That's why I stopped watching it, you know, because it
Speaker 1: just really didn't make any sense. Why do you have
Speaker 1: all your pads on if you're not gonna use them,
Speaker 1: they might as well come out, uh in in the hats.
Speaker 1: You know that you play seven on seven end, there's
Speaker 1: no there's no contact. There's no contact, there's not even
Speaker 1: resemblance of physical contact anywhere in the game. It's a man,
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. They got it. That's a tough
Speaker 1: you know what. I made it. I made it to
Speaker 1: halftime and then I said, I'm not watching this foolishness.
Speaker 1: You know, they because they had all these these I
Speaker 1: didn't watch any of it. They had all these bonuses
Speaker 1: guys could earn right, and it's like, well they're they're
Speaker 1: so hollow. It's like, who's going to be the defensive
Speaker 1: player of the game. Well, no one's playing defense, you know.
Speaker 1: And if you score a touchdown, you get this many points,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, they're just letting you score. They're
Speaker 1: not playing they gotta go back. Look. The best thing
Speaker 1: they did, and I want to say it was Thursday
Speaker 1: night the skills competition. Michael Parsons sports fastest human that's right,
Speaker 1: and and and that stuff was actually entertaining, right, it
Speaker 1: was there was so they all they need SETI did
Speaker 1: you did you watch when they played dodgeball? That was
Speaker 1: good stuff, right, they were actually I remember years pass
Speaker 1: watching it. Yet And I'll tell you what, Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: needs to throw a pass because you should have seen
Speaker 1: him throw the dodgeball. I mean he was firing that thing.
Speaker 1: And and I'm going, such a star. He can just
Speaker 1: he could just he can do whatever. I bully, that's
Speaker 1: where he is. I could just see him knocking kids
Speaker 1: out when he was in elementary st He's just a
Speaker 1: big but he's got he's got such a natural charisma
Speaker 1: about him. He's just he's gonna be a well he
Speaker 1: already is, but he's a superstar. How about speaking, I
Speaker 1: knocked out my best friend playing dodgeball in elementary school?
Speaker 1: You did they want? You want the dodgeball's here? You
Speaker 1: know what happened. We were in the in the gymnasium,
Speaker 1: right tile floor at that time, and uh, they started
Speaker 1: the dodgeball. He play with basketball? Wait what a detail
Speaker 1: to remember? Wait? Wait, so they started the game off
Speaker 1: with one ball and they put it at the middle,
Speaker 1: and then you had to have one person from each
Speaker 1: team run to get the ball right, kick it right,
Speaker 1: and you whoever kicked it to their team got it right. Well,
Speaker 1: we got there at the same time and I ran
Speaker 1: into him and he hit his head on on the floor.
Speaker 1: I didn't knock about, but he had to. He had
Speaker 1: to go sit down for a while. So I want
Speaker 1: funny again. It's funny now, I think, little old me. Right,
Speaker 1: when you hear the story, you think, but here, here's
Speaker 1: here's what do I now, Here's what the here's here's
Speaker 1: what the Pro Bowl reminds me of. Guys. I remember
Speaker 1: we played the last game at Candlestick. You know, got
Speaker 1: all these old guys out there, Jerry Rice out there
Speaker 1: acting the food, just trying to relive his glory days.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Spats, you're talking about the floor
Speaker 1: it was on. It was on natural grass, So we
Speaker 1: want natural grass, right, And so I just wanted to
Speaker 1: make sure that detail was brought out. And so the
Speaker 1: last part of the game, Eddy de Barlow is in oh.
Speaker 1: Eddie Dubar was in the game and they give him
Speaker 1: the ball and you know he I think he was
Speaker 1: up for the Hall of Famous self, and so we
Speaker 1: just kind of let him score as we you know,
Speaker 1: you know, fell down behind him, and you know, didn't
Speaker 1: even make it look good. It was very comical. That's
Speaker 1: what the Pro Bowl looks like to me. When the
Speaker 1: running back gets the ball, it's it's just no one's
Speaker 1: touching him, you know, you assume that the touch has
Speaker 1: made you know, otherwise, it's just pretty It's pretty comical.
Speaker 1: That's what it looks like to me. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was just a notch. I'm not gonna even say
Speaker 1: it was a notch above. It was right there with
Speaker 1: what they showed leading up to that Pro Bowl game.
Speaker 1: It was women's flag football. You watch any of that
Speaker 1: lingerie league. That's when I did not watch it. What
Speaker 1: are you gonna say about it? That was sort of
Speaker 1: like the Pro Bowl. I tweeted it about it, and
Speaker 1: I think it's a very good thing, Mickey. It is,
Speaker 1: I do think. And now seriously I think I thought
Speaker 1: it was a high school deal, but it wasn't. These
Speaker 1: were teams all right, because the Cowboys actually partnered with
Speaker 1: for fourth ID this past week, and DeMarcus where was
Speaker 1: there at at and t Stadium last weekend and they
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a clinic or whatever, it's
Speaker 1: an introduction to get an interview with them. I didn't
Speaker 1: wasn't there, but we did as a TV station. We did.
Speaker 1: I need an interview, Okay, you can have it. But
Speaker 1: I think I really do think this that whether it's
Speaker 1: seven on seven flag football, whatever they want to call it,
Speaker 1: at the high school level varsities as a varsity sport
Speaker 1: is going to get approved and it's going to take off,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be very popular amongst girls for females, yeah,
Speaker 1: for girls, girls, girls flag football. Basically, I think it's
Speaker 1: going to really take off. I mean that's just the
Speaker 1: people love football, you know. And uh and there there
Speaker 1: are really good uh female athletes who are who will
Speaker 1: excel at it in my opinion once they start playing it.
Speaker 1: So anyway, thanks us my opinion. They found quarterbacks, yeah,
Speaker 1: didn't find enough receivers. Okay, all right, okay, um, I
Speaker 1: want to talk Hall of Fame when we come back. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: we're going. We're going. I'm going to elect the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame this this class. Okay, I've got my submissions
Speaker 1: coming up next and We're gonna read the rest of
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Speaker 1: We're gonna go into our Super Bowl picks. We got
Speaker 1: so much to cover here in the last sixteen minutes
Speaker 1: of this edition of Mix Shots. But it has been
Speaker 1: a week and a half since we last got together.
Speaker 1: There's so much that has happened in the meantime since then,
Speaker 1: including one of the biggest retirements in the history of
Speaker 1: the National Football League. And uh well, I think we
Speaker 1: need to talk about that to kick off this last
Speaker 1: segment of this week's show. Don't you think so, Mickey?
Speaker 1: Anybody surprised that Tom Brady decided I am not talking
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady. One of the biggest retirements in the
Speaker 1: history of the National Football League. Rich Rich dal Reymple
Speaker 1: is stepping aside. He is retiring after so many three
Speaker 1: decades here. Let me tell you ten more seasons than
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. There you go, that's right, thirty two years seasons.
Speaker 1: Came here in nineteen ninety from the University of Miami.
Speaker 1: So it's the year after Jerry and Jimmy got here.
Speaker 1: Jimmy brought his PR or his sports information director from
Speaker 1: the University of Miami with him the next year. And
Speaker 1: so think about this. It occurred to me when I
Speaker 1: used one of this note in my mix shots last night.
Speaker 1: From nineteen seventy one to twenty twenty one, fifty years,
Speaker 1: fifty one seasons, the Cowboys have only had three PR directors.
Speaker 1: Doug Todd eighteen seasons, Greg Ayallo, who had been here
Speaker 1: ten years as an assistant one before he became the
Speaker 1: head PR guy in the NFL, and then Rich Dalrympe
Speaker 1: for thirty two years, thirty two seasons, so uh, only
Speaker 1: three games. Ever, he looks he looks as cool as
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows in shades, And uh yeah, I first met
Speaker 1: Rich when he was the sports information director at Miami
Speaker 1: and I had gone down there to cover a regular
Speaker 1: season game. H had gone down there to cover the
Speaker 1: Orange Bowl when they beat Oklahoma. I believe, uh that
Speaker 1: one year for the National Championship game, and uh, we
Speaker 1: don't need to pause on that, yeah, And uh, I
Speaker 1: just thought I'd bring that up. And so when he
Speaker 1: got here, I was kind of familiar with him when
Speaker 1: he showed up in nineteen ninety so uh yeah, that
Speaker 1: was Uh, that was a long run for him, and uh,
Speaker 1: my understanding was he just decided that it was time
Speaker 1: and think about it not. You know, while he was
Speaker 1: the p our director for the Dallas Cowboys, one of
Speaker 1: his main jobs was Jerry Jones, and so that was
Speaker 1: a twenty four hour day job, right, um, you know,
Speaker 1: just making sure everything was straight. So yeah, so day
Speaker 1: what Rich, Rich and I actually had a lot of
Speaker 1: close contact when they had me up for the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, Jerry and Rich. They kind of put the
Speaker 1: Cowboys resources behind me. Always make a joke about team Walls. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: Rich Dalrymple was part of the team walls. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: we had a little game playing, we had a little
Speaker 1: campaign going, uh and Rich was kind of at the
Speaker 1: at the forefront of that. And so that was very surprising.
Speaker 1: And you know, you got to find out just really
Speaker 1: how personal he is, you know, because he walks around,
Speaker 1: you know, looking very important for that, but when you
Speaker 1: when you when you look at uh, you know, when
Speaker 1: you actually get to talk to him, you know, he's
Speaker 1: really a very very cool guy, really a very cool guy.
Speaker 1: I was surprised because his demeanor kind of says otherwise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a good guy to have a beer with. He is.
Speaker 1: That's very true, and so happy retirement line. Yes, Rich
Speaker 1: Dalrymple and okay, Hall of Fame, the Well the Honors
Speaker 1: show is tonight, so Michael Parsons will be your They
Speaker 1: break it down the Defensive Rookie of the Year, just
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, Defensive Rookie of the Year, Offensive
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, and by the way, just to
Speaker 1: give you a little and I don't know how much
Speaker 1: this means, NFL dot Com had a twenty nine person
Speaker 1: panel that they voted on I think seven of the
Speaker 1: awards and the only one that came out unanimous was
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons getting all twenty nine votes for NFL Rookie
Speaker 1: Defensive Rookie of the Year. Okay, so that's a slam dunk.
Speaker 1: It's gonna have that. It's like that's going to happen. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the only other Cowboy player in the seven categories
Speaker 1: they voted on was Dak Prescott. Uh comeback Comeback Player
Speaker 1: of the Year. I think he got Wow. He made it.
Speaker 1: So we already know the results. They were just doing
Speaker 1: They were just doing it. And because because I was
Speaker 1: just definitely stepped up his game. Is it based just
Speaker 1: on regular season or playoffs? Well, I when did the
Speaker 1: voting when they vote, when did the voting take Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Most Valuable Player is just a regular season Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: so I would I would think it's just regular season. Uh,
Speaker 1: Jack Dak Dak ended up getting um I think three
Speaker 1: votes for comeback. Burrow won it in a landslide and
Speaker 1: their vote was taken after the regular and Mica got
Speaker 1: one vote for Defensive Player of the Year okay. T
Speaker 1: J Watt okay got twenty twenty some and Aaron Donald
Speaker 1: got I think seven something like that. Okay, So that
Speaker 1: just given the idea what some people were thinking. So
Speaker 1: that's going on tonight and during the show tonight, which
Speaker 1: is I can't remember which networks carrying it, but might
Speaker 1: be NBC since they got the game, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought it was ABC. Okay, we'll go with ABC.
Speaker 1: All right, check your local channel, yes, please local listening.
Speaker 1: Don't miss it because of me? All right? Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame finalists yea, here they are. Okay. I've got it
Speaker 1: broken down by positions here and so if you go
Speaker 1: defensive lineman former Cowboy DeMarcus ware and his first year
Speaker 1: of eligibility, Jared Allen in his second year of eligibility,
Speaker 1: Richard Seymour his fifth year, and Bryant Young his tenth
Speaker 1: year of eligibility. Linebackers former Cowboy Zach Thomas. You got
Speaker 1: Patrick Willis and Sam Mills. Okay, you'r dB Ronde Barber
Speaker 1: and Leroy Butler, offensive tackles Willie Anderson and Tony Boselli.
Speaker 1: And receivers Tory Holt, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne and a
Speaker 1: special teams Uh, well, you could call it. He's listed
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. Kick he's a kick returner though,
Speaker 1: and he's his first year of eligibility, and I've got
Speaker 1: him going in and his first year of eligibility. That
Speaker 1: would be the great Devin Hester. Right, So so how
Speaker 1: many of those Okay, you got five of them going in? Right? Five? Yeah,
Speaker 1: five of these finalists we'll go in as you got
Speaker 1: the others as many as many as five, right, Okay.
Speaker 1: When I was when I was in, when I was in,
Speaker 1: when I was up for that one year, Roy Holt
Speaker 1: was also up for it. He didn't make it. Uh,
Speaker 1: what's the offensive line, BASSELLI? He he was up for it.
Speaker 1: When I was up for it. I think that was
Speaker 1: a guy. This is about five years ago. These guys
Speaker 1: are still. Holt is in his eighth year of eligibility.
Speaker 1: I think it's the third. Give me, give me another one. Bill,
Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne is in his third year with Richard Seymour.
Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't no keep going. Uh, let's see
Speaker 1: Butler Leroy, Butler, Barbara, Barbara Ronde, Barber, Barbara was up.
Speaker 1: So what year was that? What year was that? Everson?
Speaker 1: I believe that was five years ago? Okay, so Barber's
Speaker 1: in it. So Barbara, that would have been probably his
Speaker 1: first year of eligibility. And because I think he's in
Speaker 1: his fifth year of eligibility right now. So you just
Speaker 1: read off the names. So what do you think of
Speaker 1: the chances are DeMarcus Ware getting voted in tonight? I
Speaker 1: think it's it's pretty high, and it should be high.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is I think I think he
Speaker 1: should go in myself, and I think, in fact, I
Speaker 1: got my five off of this list. I've got DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Ware and Jared Allen going in. And I'm not predicting
Speaker 1: this is going to happen. If I'm just saying, after
Speaker 1: taking a cursory glance at the credentials of all of
Speaker 1: these guys this morning, these are the five that I
Speaker 1: came up with. DeMarcus Ware, Jared Allen, Devin Hester, Reggie Wayne,
Speaker 1: and I've got Zach Thomas. If you look at I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's going in. He's not going to get
Speaker 1: voted in. Okay, I guarantee he's not going in. Okay.
Speaker 1: I say that. We're talking seven Pro Bowls, five times,
Speaker 1: first time All Pro, my first team All Pro, seventeen
Speaker 1: hundred twenty tackles in his career, seventeen interception, seventeen four.
Speaker 1: You you match him against the other guys, and those
Speaker 1: some good numbers, yeah, specify linebacker. Yeah, I mean seventeen
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty tackles in one hundred and eighty four games. Now,
Speaker 1: of course, we saw him at the very end of
Speaker 1: his career here in Dallas for one season in O eight,
Speaker 1: and what he did in Miami. And I didn't go
Speaker 1: into this thinking at all that Zack Thomas would be
Speaker 1: in my final five. And then I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: He's on the All Decade team. I mean, he's got
Speaker 1: a I think a really good case, but I don't
Speaker 1: think you'll go in. I must admit I was influenced
Speaker 1: by what I saw here in Dallas. Right. It's good
Speaker 1: that you mentioned that, Bill because that does influence me.
Speaker 1: But if you look back at his early years, you're
Speaker 1: looking at a Sharan Lee type of player on this size,
Speaker 1: very smart, he played with aggression even though he was
Speaker 1: and he just really didn't get hurt as much as
Speaker 1: Sean Lee did either, so he was a little bit
Speaker 1: more stout. I like that. Jared Allen, Okay, where versus Allen?
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Wait, Jared Allen, Jared Allen, give me
Speaker 1: his numbers in SAX Guys, you got one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty six. He's got one hundred and thirty six sacks,
Speaker 1: and where's got one hundred and thirty eight and a half.
Speaker 1: In fact, it's almost identical numbers. Now, Jared Allen, what
Speaker 1: are we looking at? He came into the year into
Speaker 1: the league one same number of years in the league
Speaker 1: is where twelve years in the league. He was with
Speaker 1: Kansas City for four years, Minnesota for six years, and
Speaker 1: then finished up his last year in Chicago and Carolina. Okay,
Speaker 1: where did he ever get a Super Bowl he did not.
Speaker 1: That's the one difference between Where and Alan is that
Speaker 1: Where has a Super Bowl ring and Allan doesn't. Well,
Speaker 1: and also Where's got nine Pro bowls Allen's got five.
Speaker 1: They both have four first team All Pro selections. All Right,
Speaker 1: where played one hundred and seventy eight games? Uh? I
Speaker 1: don't have Alan's games? But anyway, one hundred thirty six
Speaker 1: sex for Allan, one hundred thirty eight and a half
Speaker 1: for where six hundred fifty seven tackles for where six
Speaker 1: hundred forty three tackles for Allen. Uh, let's see thirty
Speaker 1: one force fumbles for Alan, thirty five force fumbles for
Speaker 1: where one hundred and seventy one tackles for hundred We're got.
Speaker 1: How about this one one hundred seventy one against Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: one hundred, one hundred seventy one tackles for loss for
Speaker 1: where one hundred seventy one tackles for loss for Allen?
Speaker 1: No way, two hundred twenty nine two hundred twenty nine
Speaker 1: quarterback hits for where two hundred twenty eight for Allan. Uh? Oh,
Speaker 1: come on, man, okay, Wikipedia is wrong. I'm sorry he was.
Speaker 1: He was cross eyed when he was reading that stuff.
Speaker 1: But but Everson, what Bill uh is very humbly not
Speaker 1: telling you is that in two thousand and five, when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had the eleventh pick in the draft, Uh,
Speaker 1: we both predicted that they were going to draft to
Speaker 1: Marcus Where, and they listened to us and we both
Speaker 1: predicted he would be a first ballot Hall of That's right.
Speaker 1: And not only that, then we predicted that with the
Speaker 1: second pick, Bill, I don't know if they Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: they did. And with the second pick we figured they
Speaker 1: would take Marcus Spears and they did, right, And if
Speaker 1: ourselves was making the call, he would have taken Spears first,
Speaker 1: and you know what would have been left with not
Speaker 1: have gotten to Marcus Where. That's right. You know the
Speaker 1: funny thing about that when guys, when you when you
Speaker 1: think about, when you think about this, how they picked
Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame. And that's why I'm gonna
Speaker 1: beg to differ with your Bill on your on who
Speaker 1: you think is gonna make it. For some reason, wide
Speaker 1: receivers they just don't get the love because I think
Speaker 1: they look at them as go ahead. No, what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I wasn't predicting what's gonna happen. That's
Speaker 1: if I was picking, that's who I would have picked.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, So okay, yeah, but they don't. They don't
Speaker 1: really pick wide receivers, you know, like like t O
Speaker 1: it took him a while to get in. You know,
Speaker 1: you have some really good receivers of I think Chris
Speaker 1: Carter took a while to get in, if you would call.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are guys who were quality receivers that
Speaker 1: represent the league well, and yet they seem to be
Speaker 1: uh not a priority as a as a group, as
Speaker 1: a unit. They see these four and I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: Hester into the group, even though he's a kick returner. Hester,
Speaker 1: Tory Holt, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne. Which which of those
Speaker 1: four should go in? You think I'm saying Hester gets in.
Speaker 1: I'm Hester gets in because of special teams twenty return
Speaker 1: touchdowns in his career, not exactly a wide receiver. And
Speaker 1: I think Tory Holt, you got hold and not that
Speaker 1: much competition either spacts from other return to special teams guys.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree with you on Hester, and I
Speaker 1: think Holt as well. I think just from a personal standpoint,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you know, guys got to get in
Speaker 1: the other guys. That The other satisfying thing about the
Speaker 1: year that five years ago when I was up for it,
Speaker 1: you had two guys that went in that It was
Speaker 1: very satisfying, you know, whether you make it or not,
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of football. Cramer went in that year,
Speaker 1: and so did Robert Brazil. Those are two guys that
Speaker 1: have been really on that list of it's a shame
Speaker 1: that they're not in lists, and they got in that
Speaker 1: year five years ago. So hopefully someone who's been you know,
Speaker 1: toiling for quite some time, we might might be able
Speaker 1: to finally get some satisfaction. Well, and let's also add
Speaker 1: that the Sea year finalist is Cliff Branch and usually
Speaker 1: at this point in the seniors category they kind of
Speaker 1: somewhat rubber stamped that one, right, Uh. And then the
Speaker 1: contributor Art McNally, the old official, right who ended up
Speaker 1: being upstairs? Is that right? Right? Yeah? And then uh
Speaker 1: for the coach for the coach, Dick Vermill, and they
Speaker 1: they've got a vote on I mean, they sort of
Speaker 1: got a vote on all those guys. I talked to
Speaker 1: Dick Vermill one time. It was pretty formal. We were
Speaker 1: both at you and thus did he cry ya, that's
Speaker 1: a good one. We almost we almost shook hands and
Speaker 1: we kind of just pumped fist. Yeah yeah, all right. Uh.
Speaker 1: And who's gonna win the Super Bowl? We're out of time.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna win? Rams? Man? Rams can't lose at home?
Speaker 1: Cincing That is good, But you know, do they have
Speaker 1: do they have that much momentum? I think Aaron Donaldson
Speaker 1: is going to go off in this game. He will
Speaker 1: not allow them to lose. I I I'm picking the Rams,
Speaker 1: but I got this and Vonn Miller and Vonn Miller, right,
Speaker 1: von Miller, I'm picking the Rams, but I got this
Speaker 1: tugging notions like just gonna do something, that Burrow's gonna
Speaker 1: do something, and then they're gonna survive. You know, there's
Speaker 1: no way they should be in this game. He got
Speaker 1: sacked periods, but not only sacked nine times, he got
Speaker 1: hit thirteen times trying to throw the ball and they
Speaker 1: still won. Are they firing everybody in Tennessee? Because when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys lose one, they're firing everybody, right, including the
Speaker 1: owner of the general. No, No, the coach got an
Speaker 1: extension just yesterday. I think Tennessee's I think they've been
Speaker 1: to conference championship games. Yeah, ok yeah, and I guess
Speaker 1: I'll pick the Rams too. Matthew Stafford from Highlands Mixing
Speaker 1: and Pevin You're going to get Mixing, Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: you can convince me otherwise, Okay, I'll go, right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll go. I'll go with Cincinnati. Then sounds good. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I've got Cincinnati and you two have the Rams. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We're gonna convene again next Thursday. And if you asked
Speaker 1: me tomorrow, I might change my mind. Yeah. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of the same way. I'm not solid on them Rams.
Speaker 1: You gotta score for us, Everson. Hey, go Highland Park,
Speaker 1: Go Highland Park. That's the first time I think I've
Speaker 1: ever said that in my entire life. Been from Hamilton Park.
Speaker 1: You know how much say that? You know? The last
Speaker 1: time Matthew Stafford won a championship was in two thousand
Speaker 1: and five, and uh they Highland Park won the state
Speaker 1: championship game. You know what. The final score was fifty
Speaker 1: nine to nothing. Whoa, you're lying fifty nine to nothing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So all right, so that does it for This wasn't baseball.
Speaker 1: It's a shout out. That's pretty good. Yep, I try,
Speaker 1: I try. Okay, So that does it for this edition
Speaker 1: of Mixed Shots. And I guess next week we'll be
Speaker 1: convening for a scouting combine preview. It's almost Scouting Combine time.
Speaker 1: I mean this, We're already Valentine's Day is Monday, okay,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be like the seventeenth. We're only gonna
Speaker 1: have ten or eleven days left in February, all right,
Speaker 1: And I think the combine starts the first of March, Okay,
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, Uh, March first. I believe that the
Speaker 1: franchise tag decisions are being made sixteenth. I want to
Speaker 1: see it. But but as far as tendering contracts and offers, yea, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, if you're wondering, the franchise tag for
Speaker 1: a wide receiver is eighteen point five million, the tight
Speaker 1: end is eleven, and defensive ends or seventeen point five million.
Speaker 1: I just happened to write a couple of those down.
Speaker 1: What's it for a punter? I didn't write that, all right, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's so much to get to. This offseason kicks off
Speaker 1: as soon as the Super Bowl ends, right, yeah, and
Speaker 1: all the rumors will start flying that's right, all right,
Speaker 1: we'll talk at you again next week here on Mick Shots.
Speaker 1: Enjoy your super Bowl weekend, Everson, Now you guys too,
Speaker 1: and I will have to say go Cowboys. This has
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