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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Monday, June twenty second, twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. I'm g Skeets here in the Classic Factory

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Speaker 1: and alongside me as always Task.

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Speaker 2: Millus NBA podcast listeners, this is for you.

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Speaker 1: Next to him, it's my top shot, hot Bull, the

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Speaker 1: Boy Trick, Kirby he a Yo, and over Yonder making

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Speaker 1: the magic happen. Super producer jd. Hello, there is here,

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Speaker 1: we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hello, podcast listeners.

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Speaker 1: Happy belated Father's Day to all of you gentlemen and

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Speaker 1: possible fathers out there watching or listening. Hope you had

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Speaker 1: a great day. Do you guys have a good weekend

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Speaker 1: relaxing at all?

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Speaker 2: I did some bowling. I was really good. Yeah right,

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Speaker 2: I had it going on.

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Speaker 3: Got some strikes, got some strikes.

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Speaker 2: Baby, That.

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Speaker 1: So fine?

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Speaker 3: YEA to me, you did your job.

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Speaker 1: You beat the kids, I assume or did they have

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Speaker 1: bumpers they did? Ok? Yeah, there you go, y baby,

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Speaker 1: Dad's Day. On today's podcast, the Atlanta Hawks CAKA they're

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Speaker 1: making moves. We'll get into that. NBA free agency started early,

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Speaker 1: it's already going and we'll debate who should be the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick tomorrow night, but first we start

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Speaker 1: with an email from a No Dunk fan named James,

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Speaker 1: who wrote in quote on last summer's Jurassic Pals and

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Speaker 1: for those that don't know, that was our rewatch of

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Speaker 1: the entire Jurassic Park movie franchise. It was stated that

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Speaker 1: upon hearing new slop in the upcoming NBA season, specifically

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Speaker 1: from Mark Stein or Jake Fisher, the phrase pig loose

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Speaker 1: would be used. Alas, I have not heard this phrase

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Speaker 1: this past season and thought this would be a good

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Speaker 1: reminder for you to rectify this ahead of the summer

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Speaker 1: of slop. Thanks again, that's from James. Great point, James,

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Speaker 1: great memory, Big loose, JD slap season, Baby pig loose

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Speaker 1: scene from Jurassic World tray.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, when I we're getting to see

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Speaker 3: the way Chris Pratt handles the raptors in the cage,

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Speaker 3: some fool, what's a pig loose? He gets yanked in

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Speaker 3: by his lariat and Chris has to stap in insane.

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Speaker 1: Right right right, pig loose? Though it's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Pigs Lost season fixed for slop season and uh if

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Speaker 3: you are a pig fan out there. The pig was fine,

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Speaker 3: don't you worry about it?

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, exactly, Yeah, I forgot, I forgot good.

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Speaker 2: Good to hear it.

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Speaker 3: Or maybe it got slought, it got destroyed. Yeah, kids, okay, pig.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, this is gonna sound really weird, but driving in today,

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Speaker 1: and I know it's because it uh premiered last night,

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Speaker 1: season three House of the Dragon. I'm like, huh, dinosaurs, pigs,

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Speaker 1: they eat pigs. Dragons they eat a lot of sheep.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great pointing. Fascinating, isn't it. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: the biggest pig right now, of them all, the biggest

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Speaker 1: slap is Yannis. We are on Yannis trade watch for day.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what do we at here. It's like

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Speaker 1: thirteen months at this point. But rumors surrounding a possible

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Speaker 1: move for Yannis picked up significantly over the last few days,

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Speaker 1: multiple trade ideas being floated. I was pretty convinced he

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Speaker 1: was being dealt there. On Saturday night, I was in

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Speaker 1: the slack channels asking the boys where they were, who

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Speaker 1: would be available. I don't know. There was a lot

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Speaker 1: of buzz obviously on social media, but nothing happened, still waiting.

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Speaker 1: Two franchises, though, have emerged as the leading suitors. And

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Speaker 1: this isn't really new news tasks, but it's the Miami Heat,

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Speaker 1: it's the Boston Celtics. Those are the two teams most

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Speaker 1: aggressively pursuing a trade for Yannis. I did see Shams here,

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Speaker 1: I guess on get up this morning, like an hour ago,

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Speaker 1: saying those are the teams. Yes, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: this is Sham's reporting. The deal is supposed to still

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Speaker 1: be goings down soon, but it will not involve a

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Speaker 1: third or fourth team, is what I'm saying. It will

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Speaker 1: be either Miami Free, honest and just those two teams

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Speaker 1: or Boston obviously with Jalen Brown to that. That's what

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Speaker 2: All we know is that there will be a trade.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Jannis is not going to stick in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: As much as I've backed that idea for several months,

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Speaker 2: we know that there will inevitably be a trade. It

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Speaker 2: I am surprised to hear that a third team isn't involved. Sure,

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Speaker 2: feels like there will be somebody involved, but maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: Still believe that, Yeah, the most consistent interest here in

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Speaker 1: More recently, Trey with this idea of moving Jalen Brown.

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Speaker 1: He'd be the best single player return the Buck could land.

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Speaker 1: But then we all thought, well, wouldn't he be rerouted

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when that pig got loose. One of the things

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Speaker 3: mentioned was that Miami is in the lead, but the

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Speaker 3: Fisher and Stein reported on Miami's official offer, which is

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Speaker 3: I suppose the third team wouldn't be involved, But if

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Speaker 3: that third team is for future picks, as in not

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six draft picks, it could be a fake

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Speaker 3: three team deal. Right, like, we do the deal, Tyler

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Speaker 3: we do the trade a little bit later. Not technically

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Speaker 3: just still feels to me like the Bucks are saying

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Speaker 3: we know the Miami offer. Everybody knows the Miami offer.

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Speaker 3: We thought we were going to wait until the summer

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Speaker 3: the offer would get better. It ain't any better. It's

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Speaker 3: the one that we've been talking about since the trade deadline,

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Speaker 3: probably since last offseason as well. Will anybody step up

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Speaker 3: and beat this offer? Will the Celtics step up and

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Speaker 3: I assume it will be Miami in the end.

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Speaker 1: And or will Yannis put this to bed once and

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Speaker 1: for all by saying, if he wanted to, I only

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Speaker 1: other team is out of it. Probably be training for him.

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Speaker 1: I can't be seeing it.

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Speaker 2: That's already been a discussion between Yah in the front office.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, maybe he's fine with both teams.

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Speaker 2: I think that's already been established between Jannison John Horse.

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Speaker 2: I think they have that relationship, have that respect for

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Speaker 2: maybe Milwaukee has played this well in that they do

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Speaker 2: have two teams binning against each other right now, and

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Speaker 2: that they didn't do it in February, and here we are.

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Speaker 2: It sure seem like at the first well, the Miami

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Speaker 2: they have at least got two teams bidding against each other.

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Speaker 2: That Detroit part is exciting for I think every Eastern

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Speaker 2: If that is a possibility, that Tyler Hero going and

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Speaker 2: being with the Pistons and immediately being their second best

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Speaker 2: the guy was injured and he wasn't that great. The

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Speaker 2: He would easily go and jump on a team with

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Speaker 2: beyond that who's scoring. That's what their team is. So

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Speaker 2: he would literally be the guy to be able to

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Speaker 2: score in playoffs series. So that part is exciting. That

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Speaker 2: got me going. That got the Pigs going for me

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Speaker 2: on the weekend because that is literally they need him desperately.

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Speaker 2: They need somebody on the wing, and with Dwys Harris

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Speaker 2: to get somebody. So I was buying the Hero the

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Speaker 2: Hero slomp.

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Speaker 3: I like Hero to the Pistons as well, like depending

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Speaker 3: on the cost to get him from I guess Milwaukee

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Speaker 3: is what it would technically be a good get, a

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Speaker 3: pretty solid fit. I think, like you're saying, he's not

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Speaker 3: a number one scorer, but he's a good enough number

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Speaker 3: two score. Can play with the ball when Kate is

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Speaker 3: return would be young guy and Khalil Where a number

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Speaker 3: thirteen pick from Miami and then whatever they get for

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Speaker 3: Tyler Hero. That's looking better for Milwaukee than just Hero

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Speaker 3: and where in the thirteen pick?

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Speaker 2: If you ask me.

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Speaker 1: Mark Stein wrote recently here quote was this all an

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Speaker 1: That's what I keep coming back to. It just feels

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Speaker 1: like we knew the Heat deal can't really get all

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Speaker 1: getting honest if you're Miami. But is this just a

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Speaker 1: is sort of what's the rush?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Now, their Cohner said they want this done by tomorrow night,

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Speaker 1: that part. But you don't really need to hold to that.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think is going on here. And I

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Speaker 1: think just in the end they're trying and maybe successfully

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Speaker 1: we'll get a little sweetener from Miami. Another pick, another player.

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Speaker 1: Now I will add windhorse on Get Up this morning.

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Speaker 1: He said about the Jayleen Brown part of it all.

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Speaker 1: He believes if he's not even moved free honest in

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Speaker 1: this deal, a potential Bucks Celtics deal, maybe Jilen Brown

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Speaker 1: has moved to a completely other team, Like can you

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Speaker 1: put the toothpaste back in the tube? Sort of his

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Speaker 1: windhorse thinking here, this idea, it's like it's out there now.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: He had a lot to say after the season ended,

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Speaker 1: this idea about being the alpha guy, maybe having his

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Speaker 1: own team. Maybe he's just moved in a completely separate deal.

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Speaker 3: TK.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm getting ahead of myself here, but we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see. Can you put the toothpaste back in

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Speaker 3: the tube? Can you put the hair paint back in

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Speaker 3: the hair paint?

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Speaker 2: Bodel?

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Speaker 3: I think it's perhaps a better question. Yeah, it's impossible. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: almost once you get stuck onto your forehead or perhaps

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brown, I think with the way he was talking

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And they are on the books as the championship

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Speaker 2: Mark Stein. Okay has discussed potentials number twelve and number

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Speaker 3: Like Wiggins fell out of the rotation for the Thunder

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Speaker 1: this one. As a task mentioned, I mean, there was

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Speaker 2: It's just a descending contract, which is nice. But the

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just allowed themselves. I wonder if they

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Speaker 1: Do you have any thoughts on him here in Atlanta? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Here because the Hawks have a twenty four million dollar

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Speaker 1: TK with this news, he avoids free agency. So thoughts

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Speaker 3: Yep, this is perfect. He beat the next twice and

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Speaker 3: Then you can decide that the trade the deadline. Do

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Speaker 3: him to another team that's a contender and maybe we

430
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Speaker 3: can get a couple of second round picks back or

431
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Speaker 3: something like that. So I think pretty smooth move for Atlanta.

432
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Speaker 2: Yeah, on both sides. Smooth from the Hawk's perspective. We

433
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Speaker 2: can keep our flexibility because we're just signing a guy

434
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Speaker 2: for one year. If we need to get off him

435
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 2: or trade him, we've got that option. For CJ McCollum,

436
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 2: I can sign a one year deal and then when

437
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 2: I'm thirty five. Maybe I have the capability of signing

438
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Speaker 2: one more long deal instead of signing it now and

439
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Speaker 2: then you're handcuffed a few years from now when you're

440
00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 2: a little too old. So I think both play each

441
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Speaker 2: other pretty well. CJ McCollum man. The guy was we

442
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Speaker 2: kind of deemed, as you know, part of the scrap

443
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Speaker 2: heap that they got him and Corey Kisbert for Trey

444
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 2: Young and is just trade my those two game winners,

445
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean, those last four months could not have been

446
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 2: more yea, not even cost.

447
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Speaker 1: The playoff in game winners, I mean, did average like

448
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 1: nineteen points per game when he came to Atlanta. He

449
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: was and they just ripped off a crazy sort of

450
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Speaker 1: win percentage when he got it added to this team.

451
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Speaker 1: And obviously he can shoot the three ball. You can

452
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Speaker 1: go to him in late game situations. Yeah, and he

453
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Speaker 1: goes from making thirty one million to now basically twenty

454
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Speaker 1: one million. Yeah that's what it was last year. And

455
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Speaker 1: like you said, he then can hit free agency one

456
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Speaker 1: more time. Maybe he has another great year here with Atlanta,

457
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Speaker 1: maybe gets moved to the deadline. There's all options, I

458
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Speaker 1: think for sort of both sides here.

459
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Speaker 2: An Sally keeping those options open. Although the team looks

460
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Speaker 2: like it's going to be essentially the same next year

461
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Speaker 2: as what we're seeing here. So that's that's all. I mean,

462
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Speaker 2: they're they're running it back. They're going to tinker. Uh,

463
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Speaker 2: we'll see what the draft pick, how that plays out.

464
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Speaker 1: And the Kaminga Yeah, those are the two now big cues.

465
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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, what they do with this number eight

466
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Speaker 1: pick tomorrow night, and what they do with Johnathan Kaminga

467
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Speaker 1: here and the team option and are they one of

468
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Speaker 1: these teams that windhorses saying, Hey, remember if Jalen Brown

469
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Speaker 1: isn't moved to Milwaukee, he could still be moved to

470
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Speaker 1: another team. The Hawks have been rumored to obviously be

471
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Speaker 1: a landing spot for Jalen Brown. They'd have pieces they

472
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Speaker 1: can put together, contracts, they quit together. But we'll see.

473
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Speaker 2: And Mogay is the team option too, Okay, who wants

474
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Speaker 2: who wants to? Okay? I know it's going too deep

475
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 2: for your skates to go on to Mokay.

476
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Speaker 3: I understand for the team option report, Thank you.

477
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Speaker 2: June twenty ninth for mo Gay. Somebody's gonna pick him up.

478
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Speaker 3: If they're gonna, they're gonna get that. They're gonna say

479
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Speaker 3: yes on that team option.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Wait, what are they waiting for?

481
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Speaker 1: What Sham's waiting for?

482
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: We like you both.

483
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: Other NBA news, the Sons have landed multi year agreements

484
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Speaker 1: to keep two young guards. On Saturday, Sham's reported that

485
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Speaker 1: free agent guard Colin Gillespie intends to sign a four year,

486
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Speaker 1: forty eight million dollar deal to return to Phoenix. His agent,

487
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: Task Millis was ecstatic about the news, and on Sunday,

488
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: news broke that Jordan Goodwin intends to sign a three year,

489
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Speaker 1: nineteen million dollar deal to stay in the Desert. His

490
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Speaker 1: deal includes a player option for the third season. So

491
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Speaker 1: did he Gillespie and Jordan Goodwin Dizzy stay in with

492
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Speaker 1: the Suns tasks? Is this tidy work here from Phoenix?

493
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Speaker 2: It's quite tidy? Forty eight. I thought it'd be oh

494
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 2: way more. He deserved more. He could have got more

495
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Speaker 2: outside of Phoenix. Imagine he's a solid player twelve a

496
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Speaker 2: year in today's NBA. He deserves more. That being said,

497
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Speaker 2: this team has changed so much from twelve months ago

498
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Speaker 2: when they said cut you Bradley Beal, even cutting Azeer

499
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: Little and trade away Kevin Durant too. I think Gillespie

500
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Speaker 2: taking less to stay there, and then the other deal

501
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: also a good deal in Jordan Goodwin, but Gilespie could

502
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Speaker 2: have gotten more. I think he's would just proved that

503
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: he's truly solid in this league and can shoot the

504
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Speaker 2: three and can play around good players.

505
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is his first real contract in the NBA,

506
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Speaker 3: so good for him. He'll be twenty seven at the

507
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 3: start of the next season, so the Sons are saying,

508
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 3: we got you through your prime, and I think this

509
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: is actually kind of the perfect deal for him. He's

510
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Speaker 3: right in the de Vincenzo McConnell Houser range. That's the

511
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: white guard range. Every Yeah, if you're if you're like

512
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: right on the border of being starter quality, you can

513
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: make threes, and you can play a little bit of defense.

514
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 3: You can make twelve dollars million dollars in the NBA.

515
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Speaker 3: I think he's worth it, as long as he proves

516
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Speaker 3: he wasn't just a flash in the pan. Last year.

517
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Speaker 3: His numbers were in line with like his per thirty

518
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: six career averages. Just got a whole bunch more opportunity,

519
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 3: so I'm confident that plays out. I think this will

520
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: be a good deal. I'm not as crazy about the

521
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: Jordan Goodwin one, even though it's tiny. He'll be twenty

522
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Speaker 3: eight at the start of next season. I think what

523
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: he's best at is rebounding, which as a guard kind

524
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Speaker 3: of who cares. But the Suns need cheap players. But

525
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: to me, they're kind of just going to be running

526
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Speaker 3: back a seventh seed that got swept in the playoffs,

527
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Speaker 3: And I don't really know what the point is.

528
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Speaker 2: It's your good when he can defend. Sure, yeah, yeah,

529
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Speaker 2: he gets after it.

530
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I'm like, I mean, they're paying one hundred

531
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Speaker 3: million dollars to Booker. They just signed Colin Gillespie.

532
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like the Hawks. They're coming back with the

533
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Speaker 2: same team.

534
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Speaker 1: Essentially incredible stat from ESPN about Goodwin. He's only six

535
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Speaker 1: foot threes, a pretty small guard obviously gets auted on

536
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Speaker 1: the defensive end. He ranked fifteenth among qualified players with

537
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: a nine point four percent offensive rebounding rate. All fourteen

538
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: players ahead of them are centers, because duh, that's pretty remarkable.

539
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: I think they hope, now this is a stretch, but

540
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: they're hoping, oh man, that guy can be our Josh

541
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: Hart like guy, the smaller guy out there for defensive purposes.

542
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: Not a complete joke. When it comes to shooting the

543
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: three ball, it's not a super high percentage or a

544
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: super high volume, but he'll take him and can make

545
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: the odd one. But he's out there to hit the glass,

546
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: hustle his ass off, and he's one of those like

547
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: you hope to be a key piece on a winning team.

548
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: So this is very very cheap money for him and

549
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: glass b I'm with you, like he was good. This

550
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: guy's good off catch to shoot threes off the dribble threes.

551
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: You know, I felt like he disappeared in the postseason,

552
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Speaker 1: but his numbers were basically, you know, the scoring dipped

553
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: a little bit, but the shooting was forty percent from three. Still,

554
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: he had that one big game, I guess in the

555
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: sweep against Okay See. And that's also a tough matchup

556
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: there for that team. So this is good do good work,

557
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: I think Phoenix. Now their next order of business is

558
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: probably Mark Williams doing with him. Yeah, restricted free agent,

559
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: expected to maybe receive some interest from other teams, but

560
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: we'll see if they can make a deal with him.

561
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: But they got to work quick here with these and

562
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: you do wonder if a part of it with their

563
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: agents and stuff was like, you believed in us, you

564
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: gave us a chance, you gave us an opportunity. Like

565
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: obviously Gillespie two way guy turned into his first real

566
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: deal Goodwin. That guy's played for bounced around like crazy.

567
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: So maybe that's why this gets done earlier in freegency,

568
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: because maybe they could have gotten more, but they're like, no,

569
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Speaker 1: I whatever, I like it here. There's some trust with

570
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: the organization.

571
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's good for the Suns to

572
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: get it done because they're buttoned up next to the

573
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 3: tax and to the second apron, which means they're probably

574
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 3: gonna have to trade Jalen Green or Grayson Allen. Like

575
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 3: that's what these deals. Bringing back a couple of guards

576
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: kind of says to me, like, we're paying so much

577
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: for Booker, we need the cheap options. We want to

578
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: keep Mark Williams around. Like I said, I don't know

579
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 3: what they're building towards. They're building towards keeping Devin Booker

580
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: in a Sun's uniform is kind of what it feels

581
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: like in.

582
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 1: A different Sun's uniform.

583
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, in New Jersey, he's number fifteen, Like that's maybe

584
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: the most exciting thing. But the Sun's overperformed this year.

585
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: Maybe they do it again next year. But yeah, I'm

586
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 3: curious to see what they're gonna end up doing because

587
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: there's a lot of guards on this team right now

588
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 3: and they need anybody who can play in the front

589
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: card court.

590
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: Next piece of news here reports saying Memphis Grizzlies guard

591
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: Contavious Caldwell Pope is exercising his twenty one point six

592
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: million dollar player option for the twenty six twenty seventh season.

593
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: I had completely forgotten about this, but he did undergo

594
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: surgery on misalignment there and his pinky finger on his

595
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: right hand in February. He missed the last thirty one

596
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: games of the season KCP only I say, only thirty

597
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: three years old. I thought he was older. But yeah, no,

598
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: shock here, I don't think task this guy's picking up

599
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: this option of twenty million plus.

600
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: No, No, Rich Paul's happy, as his agent simples that

601
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: he talks about it on his podcast. Obviously, at this

602
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: point of his career and how it went from Denver

603
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: to Orlando now to Memphis, it looks like he's being overpaid,

604
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: but he earned every dollar being an NBA champion with

605
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: the Lakers, and he times two times and then the

606
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: Nuggets he ascended and he's taking his dollars.

607
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a shock here. Yeah, completely forgot CACP was

608
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: still in the league.

609
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: But he is.

610
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: And if the Grizzlies are able to pull off a

611
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: John Morant trade during the summer, CACP will be the

612
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: highest paid player on the Grizzlies. Wow, they are going

613
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: to be in the lottery again next year, is what

614
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying. You probably, Yeah, thirty four years old. Maybe

615
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: he's a buyout guy. I doubt it though.

616
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: D'Angelo Russell also opted into his six million dollar deal with.

617
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: He was part of the Dallas trade to.

618
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Speaker 3: Washington Washington Ball.

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Speaker 1: That was a hell of a test because I had

620
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: forgotten he was on the Washingt Wizard. Don't think he

621
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: played a second, right, did he?

622
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: I don't think he did.

623
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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't think they didn't want anybody to play.

624
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he did. Anyway, he picked that up.

625
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: So not a shock there either, But obviously a lot

626
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: less money than KCP. Just six million for Diezl Russell,

627
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: one time all start D'angela Russell.

628
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: Would you rather pay six million for one year to

629
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: D'Angelo Russell or six million to three years in a

630
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: row for Jordan Goodwin. They're paying the same amount of money.

631
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Speaker 1: I think he'll take Goodwin. Yeah, three years. Yeah, it

632
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: makes nothing. It's literally nothing.

633
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

634
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god. We'll see if he plays. I got

635
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: some uh, I got some mini slop here for you.

636
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: Issa Stewart bracing for a trade from the Pistons this offseason,

637
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: as they put him on the trade block in order

638
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: to balance out their roster with probably more shooting that's

639
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: what Detroit needs. According to Jake Fisher, Beef stew receiving

640
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: interest from several teams, including the Bucks, the Celtics, the Heat,

641
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: and the Spurs. Trey any reaction here to potentially is

642
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: it a Storpian moved too.

643
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a little surprising that he would be

644
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Speaker 3: on the trading block for the Pistons because I feel

645
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Speaker 3: like his toughness was a big part of their team.

646
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: But as we saw in the playoffs, Paul Reid basically

647
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: took his spot and Stuart just looked kind of lost

648
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: and wasn't even bringing the three point shooting that makes

649
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: him even a viable NBA player. But he's a good

650
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 3: rim defender. If he's wide open, he's going to make

651
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 3: a three, and you like to have him on your

652
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 3: team when there's a skirmish because he's going to run

653
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: out there and scare everybody. So two years, thirty million

654
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: left on his deal, a player option for next season.

655
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: The teams that were interested, the Bucks, the Spurs, the Heat,

656
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: the Celtics, all makes sense to me as teams that

657
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: should be interested in a guy that's probably like anywhere

658
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: between the fifth and seventh man, depending on who's healthy

659
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: for your team and what you need from at the

660
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: very least a good backup big man.

661
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw he was part of these four team

662
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: trade offers that were going around for you Asteatic Kubona,

663
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: that he'd end up on the Lakers to be team

664
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Speaker 2: mates with Lebron James, which would be weird. You know,

665
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 2: they once punched each other once upon a time. That

666
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: being said, I wonder if this is Isaiah Stewart wanting

667
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: more of a role because he wasn't played a lot

668
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, only played twelve minutes per game, or

669
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: it's the Pistons realizing, hey, we got to pay other

670
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: guys and we need offensive players. I mean, that's why

671
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: he wasn't played as much. If he's playing with incredible

672
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: offensive players, then he can be out there blocking shots,

673
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: being that late jumper to block shots. But they needed offense,

674
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: so he had to go to the bench and Paul

675
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: Reid took over. I wonder what's going on forward with

676
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: the Detroit Pistons. I'm I'm among the slop. I'm with

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00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: the slop right now. I'm amongst the slop is the

678
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: word I should use, because I think the Pistons got

679
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: to make some big moves here to get offensive players

680
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: to play some ball around Kate Cunningham. So I think

681
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: Isaiah Stewart entering that discussion is important. It's gonna happen.

682
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen. They're going to make some moves.

683
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: They have to.

684
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, because they're basically the thunder years ago.

685
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: They went into the postseason. They're like, Oh, we're not

686
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: gonna do anything yet, We're gonna see what we have

687
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: when we get in there, and they got exposed on

688
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: the glass. They could have used another defensive guy. So

689
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: then they went and made the moves. They got Hartenstein,

690
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: they got Crusoe obviously worked out. I think that's exactly

691
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: what the Pistons did. They didn't rush into anything at

692
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, even though we were like, get a shooter,

693
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: you gotta get scoring. They're like, no, no, let's see when

694
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: they get into the postseason. I think it reared its

695
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: ugly head that yeah, we could probably use some more scoring. So, yeah,

696
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: they will be silly if they don't do anything to

697
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: try and shore up that a little bit.

698
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and b.

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Speaker 1: Stull, I'm with you, like I can see him on

700
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams. I think there's a spot

701
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: from in this league on a lot of squads as

702
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: a backup center, maybe at the start center in some teams.

703
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: Only thirty million over the next two seasons on the

704
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 1: contract team option twenty seven to twenty eight two, so

705
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: it's not like he makes a ton of money. And

706
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: he was good. He was really good during the regular season.

707
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: So we're a lot of their bigs for Detroit, but

708
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: then completely played out of the rotation and they just

709
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: went Paul reidmore because they're like, at least he can

710
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: do something with the ball. Yeah, score.

711
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: Isaiah Start was d trolloy basketball. He was He was

712
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: exactly what they're supposed to be going forward. I just

713
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 2: wonder if they decide to bring back Tobias Harris, who

714
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: was their second best offensive option in the playoffs. He's

715
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: a free agent, or are they able to get more

716
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 2: like we talked about Tyler Hero, a way better offensive player.

717
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, this is this is an interesting time here

718
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: for the Kiro Trey.

719
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Speaker 1: Murphy the third. Of course it will be an awesome fit.

720
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: I feel like in Detroit. But Pelicans are always asking

721
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 1: for a ton and right please So I'm Michael Porter Junior.

722
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: It's come up before. But yeah, we'll see. All right,

723
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: that's all the slop I got for you right now.

724
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Speaker 1: Appreciate the slop. No pro I don't think we have

725
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: any more slop. No no nothing, no more slop. We'll

726
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: do a little draft talk in a second. First quick break.

727
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Speaker 3: On the biggest stage in the world. Fan duel is

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Speaker 3: changing the game because sometimes your player gets subbed off

729
00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 3: and your bet goes with him. Not anymore with super sub.

730
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: If your player is subbed out, your bet stays in.

731
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: That's right. If your player leaves the match, your bet

732
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: continues on with the substitute, so you're still in it

733
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Speaker 3: until the final whistle. Here's an interesting one for you,

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Speaker 3: Holland Messi and Mbope to each score a goal today

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Speaker 3: plus for twenty three again exactly. They all did it

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Speaker 3: on match day one. Oh I love it how they

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Speaker 3: call that match day one for these fools, Holland, Messi

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Speaker 3: and Bape plus four to twenty three could have happened again,

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Speaker 3: of course it could. There is a FanDuel dot com

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Speaker 3: to get started. Now, Let there be goals this summer

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Speaker 3: on FanDuel.

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Speaker 1: Let there be goals.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, imbappe.

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Speaker 1: Just fun to say, fun day man for sure. All right. Uh,

745
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six NBA Draft is tomorrow night. You

746
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: don't know shit, We don't know shit. But hey, let's

747
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: get in the mood a little by playing a little

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Speaker 1: fill in the blank NBA Draft edition. A few questions

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00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: for you guys and for everybody watching us live or

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Speaker 1: watching later podcast listeners. Fill in the blank here, as

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Speaker 1: simple as that first one. Now this one.

752
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe there's a debate here, I think, so.

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00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: Fill in the blank. The number one overall pick should be,

754
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: not will be, but should be. I'm asking you, who

755
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: would you take if you were the Washington Wizards.

756
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: I've got optimism, so I believe in Darren Peterson. Forget

757
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 2: about the cramping and that he wasn't that optimal offensive

758
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: player in his one year in Kansas. Who cares. He's

759
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: way better than that, And I think they believe in

760
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: being able to take care of him physically. If you

761
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: compare him to Debansa and to Boozer, he should be

762
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: the best offensive player amongst those three guys. So watching

763
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: him play him handling it at nineteen years of age,

764
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: putting him beside Trey Young, I think will take off

765
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure from him if Trey Young is

766
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: there beside him, so he's not just the guy who

767
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: has to handle the ball all the time from the

768
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 2: get go. I think he played slowly and he'll be great.

769
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to be a bust at all.

770
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: So I think this is kind of exciting going into

771
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: that number one pick. Are they taking Debantsa? Are they

772
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: taking Peterson?

773
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: Does feel a little up in the air? Yeah, yeah,

774
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, which and then and then even

775
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: after that, some of these teams decisions with Boozer and

776
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: you know, I know Killer Wilson maybe a little bit

777
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: more down. But what about you TK, would you go Peterson?

778
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: Uh?

779
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: No?

780
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: Not for me.

781
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: To me, he is the riskiest pick at number one.

782
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 3: He is, yeah, with the questions about like leadership concerns

783
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: and why were his legs cramping so much? And why

784
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 3: did he look less athletic? Was he just tanking it

785
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: this season to stay healthy for the draft? Literally? Who knows?

786
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 3: So for me, he's low for floor, high ceiling. Aj

787
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: Debantsa is high floor, high ceiling, Like, how's this guy

788
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: not going to be good? He's six foot ten and

789
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: can score all the time. And then Carl Cam Boozer

790
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: is high floor, low ceiling because he's not the super athlete.

791
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: Boozer is my favorite of the top three picks. But

792
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: it feels like he's made for the Memphis Grizzlies and

793
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: that Boozer is like the analytical darling and the Grizzlies

794
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: are like the most analytically driven drafting team that's out there,

795
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: So it feels like a perfect mix for them to

796
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 3: be united at the number three pick. But I like

797
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 3: Boozer the most. I just like the way he plays.

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00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: I like how he processes the game. I like his

799
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: feel for things. I like the way he creates for others.

800
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: Maybe he's not going to have the hot the best

801
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: highlight package of the three, but it wouldn't surprise me

802
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: if he wins the most of these three.

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00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I mean the Grizzlies, Cam Boozer, Where

804
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: did Pau Gasol get drafted number third overall the Knucks

805
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: to the Hawks? Is that that's a big move to me? Yeah,

806
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: that's right, that's good point. Yeah, but it does will

807
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: Boozer fall there? I like Dabancer here. I think the

808
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: Wizards I'm more I mean again, not a draft expert,

809
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, and cunching the tape, reading everything over the

810
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: last week or so. I think I'm more to Banca

811
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: than I am Peterson. I'm a little concerned about Peterson too,

812
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: tasking hell of a point you're making with him. I mean,

813
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: a guy as an offensive stud and could be in

814
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: this league, and why wouldn't.

815
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: But and the one games in high school he was

816
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: kicking de Bance and that kind of thing. But you

817
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprising to see Washington draft Boozer. Would that

818
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: be shocking? I know it sounds crazy, but if they're

819
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: of that mentality where they just want to draft the

820
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: most solid player, the guy you know, again, the floor

821
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: is not it ain't low, So there's a chance, But yeah,

822
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: I think Debans is definitely the the hot one. The

823
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: hot one as we enter like thirty hours from now,

824
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: seems to be the one that that's gonna happen.

825
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: But okay, let's say Debanca goes one to Washington. Then

826
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: who does Utah take. Do they take Peterson or do

827
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: they take Boozer, especially with the Boozer ties too obviously, and.

828
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 3: His dad play there and his dad is employed by

829
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: the team. I think they take Peterson. Okay, he's a

830
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: perfect fit for the team as well, since they have

831
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 3: a three, four five that are well paid, assuming Walker

832
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 3: Kesler gets paid.

833
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I question, is he too much like

834
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: Ace Bailey, where you know they kind of low floor,

835
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: high ceiling.

836
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 3: Guys, I think Peterson's better.

837
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I hear that, Jaber one.

838
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see all right. Next one, here is a

839
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Speaker 1: fun one fill in the blank. The twenty twenty six

840
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: NBA draft starts at pick what TK.

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00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it starts at one. Really, it's still

842
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: off for Grams because this is the most unsettled number

843
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: one pick since the Palo Bancaro year, and that was

844
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: like the day of it was maybe Jabari Smith is

845
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 3: going to go number one. Maybe chat Holmgren is going

846
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 3: to go number one, ended up being Polo, So number

847
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 3: one definitely still up for grabs, But it really starts

848
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 3: at number five. The top four picks are known, the

849
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: Bulls are getting whoever's left in the top four, likely

850
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: Caleb Wilson. But then you start looking at the prospects

851
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 3: available at the five range, and it's mostly all guards

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00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 3: and Woggler Acuff, Michel Brown, Kingston Flemings our close personal friend,

853
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: and of course Brayden Burry's as well. The Clippers just

854
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 3: traded for Darius Garland. He's a tiny little point guard.

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00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: All the best prospects are guards. So according to the

856
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: pig Loose boys Stein and Fisher, the Clippers and the

857
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 3: Nets both are just hoping that Sacramento falls in love

858
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: with one of these guards and wants to trade up,

859
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 3: because it might be a smarter move for the Clippers

860
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: to trade down just a couple of picks, pick up

861
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: some assets going further, and then figure out what to

862
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: do with a guard next to Garland. But like, it

863
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense to draft Darius Acuff to go next

864
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: to Darius Garland. Not only would it be confusing name wise,

865
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: but they're both like six foot two. It doesn't make

866
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: any sort of sense. So I think it's really up

867
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: in the air what happens at number five, which is

868
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: kind of exciting for the Clippers. They didn't have a

869
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: pick before the trade deadline. They didn't even have a

870
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 3: pick at draft lottery night until things went perfectly for

871
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 3: them and they went into number five, so they got

872
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: a chance to do something for their future. I think

873
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: that's exciting.

874
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 2: Eton Woggler, the guy that can play beside Darius Garland.

875
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: Like he's big enough, the best maybe fit yeah on.

876
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 2: Paper at least yeah. And and he was going one

877
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: on one with at a Clippers work out with our

878
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: friend Kingston Flemings, and so they're looking at both. But

879
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: it seems like it makes more sense beside Darius Garland

880
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 2: because they have to believe in keeping Garland for next

881
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: season and to see what Garland can become as a

882
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: young player. A lot of guards are.

883
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: A lot of Well, would the Clippers get crazy at

884
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: number five and get the Adam excuse me to day

885
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: Mara from Michigan, one of your Wolverinees guy there.

886
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: I don't think way too much of a reach too

887
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: much of a reach, and they drafted Yani last year

888
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeahederhauser and he looked great until he got hurt this season.

889
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 3: So I don't think they would. Okay, I can see

890
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: they Maybe they would be interested in Mara, but would

891
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: probably trade down for him.

892
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: It's funny because like all those guards, this glood of

893
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: guards that are like you know, they all do. You

894
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: can't go wrong with one of them. I'm sure some

895
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: of them, not all four of them will be incredible players,

896
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: even five if we're including berries. But like, I don't

897
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: think Sacramento should get all that aggressive, like moving up

898
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: or like they should just stay at seven and like

899
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: who's there, who's there? And then you'll still have an

900
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: option between probably two or three guys. So yeah, we'll

901
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: see what the Clippers do. It does feel like starts

902
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: at five, I guess one way to put it. Any

903
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: other starting spots for you one, five, and what nine?

904
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: Were going back to nine with the MAVs. What are

905
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: they doing? Are they trading it out?

906
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, as I've brought up the potential to trade that

907
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: pick to Okay, see for two picks a little bit

908
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: later twelve and seventeen. According to mark Stein sort of

909
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 2: makes sense, and those two teams traded a couple of

910
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: years ago for Derek Lively that ended up working out

911
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: all right, so TBD, all.

912
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: Right, final one here fill in the blank. Trade will

913
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: start with you. The most underrated prospect is who.

914
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: All of the Michigan National Championship guys are gonna be

915
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 3: good draft picks. Yes, Yaxel Lendeborg is highlyest highest rated,

916
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: but he's underrated because he's gonna be twenty four at

917
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: the start of next season. He graduated high school the

918
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 3: same year as Cad Cunningham and Scottie Barnes. Wow, that's

919
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: pretty crazy. That's why he's looked at more in like

920
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 3: the ten range because he's so old. But he could

921
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: be good for established teams like Golden State picks eleventh, Okay,

922
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: see picks twelfth. These are teams that are trying to

923
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 3: win right now. If he's twenty four, you want a

924
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: guy who can instantly produce, so I think it makes

925
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 3: sense on both of those teams. Yaxil's also like, outside

926
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 3: of the two big guys in Debantsa and Boozer, like

927
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: a big forward. He's easily the best big forward that's

928
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: out there Mara. Like you mentioned, he's huge, he's skilled.

929
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 3: He could be a Golden State or Oklahoma City target,

930
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 3: I would think as well. And then moress Johnson looks

931
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: like he's going to be a good defender. He's like

932
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 3: a late lottery, middle of the first round guy as well.

933
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: He's kind of like an Isaiah Stewart, but we got

934
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: to see if he can shoot threes as well. Tough guy, guards,

935
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: fours guards, fives, rebounds, all that kind of stuff. So

936
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: I like all three of them. We'll see if they

937
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: end up on a team. But you can see why

938
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: they won the national championship. They got three guys who

939
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: are probably gonna go top fifteen in the draft.

940
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: I'll go deeper with Biggs. This is a late first

941
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: round pick, early second round pick that I got hooked

942
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 2: Henry Visar of North Carolina as a seventh footer, a

943
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: big guy. But you could see a smart team like

944
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: the Knicks who need a backup center saying, oh yeah,

945
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: this guy's a modern day seven foot player. And because

946
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: there's so many guards, I think there are players that

947
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 2: are being overlooked here that are going to drop potentially here.

948
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: So it makes sense for a guy you can shoot

949
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: from the outside as a seven footer and and just

950
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: play the modern game. He's got touch. He does not

951
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: have the athleticism of a Daimara. That's all right, that's

952
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: all right. You got a Knicks to see him on

953
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: the Celtics. I think he could play a lot of

954
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: minutes in the NBA, so that would make sense be.

955
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: Sar Okay put me down for Joshua Jefferson from Iowa

956
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: State because he's like, he's one of these guys that's

957
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: also older. But that means he'll probably well he's gonna

958
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: go later in the first round, and that means he's

959
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: more likely to go to a better team and he'll

960
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 1: slot right in and he'll be like a contributing player,

961
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: I think, because you know, he is super super athletic

962
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: and high IQ and all that. So I like those

963
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: traits for him. So Joshua Jefferson forward. I guess Sam

964
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: Vessini has him going twenty third right now. So let's

965
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: say he goes in the back end of the first

966
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: round sleeper pick. I mean, he'd be there for the Raptors.

967
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: They love those type of guys. What do the Raptors

968
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 1: have to orow Night nineteen that's where we're picking. Yeah,

969
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: nineteen CoA Pete. Love that name.

970
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: CoA Pete, fun ass name.

971
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: Do you like all these new names we get? Yakxel

972
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Yaxel alone?

973
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: Is us cool? I actually think this is going to

974
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: be a tough name for drafts because we've got is

975
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 3: it Debantsa or Debansa at the top? Okay, waggler or woggler.

976
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: This is going to be some catch ups for sure.

977
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not wrong.

978
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's woggler, and I think Dabantsa, who

979
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: was an NBA media correspondent during the finals. He asked

980
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: that question too to Victor Women already said hey, I'm

981
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: an NBA media correspondent. Victor immediately gave the what with

982
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: the facial Reactionly, what, I think I know everything about

983
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: the NBA? What are you talking about? I think he

984
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: will be comfortable letting us know it's Debatsa because the

985
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: guy he likes to be on the mic, whether it's

986
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know, I confident guy.

987
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, let's hear all of your answers. Some

988
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: of you know a lot more about the draft and

989
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: watch a lot more college basketball than us, so let

990
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: us know your answers to those three questions. Tomorrow night,

991
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: task is right, first time we've ever done this. No

992
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: Dunk's NBA Draft watch party. We're going to be here

993
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: in the Classic Factory. Pizza will be ordered or maybe

994
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: burger king and h we'll just watch this thing. It

995
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 1: starts at eight pm Eastern. So join us around, I mean, honestly,

996
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: to crack jokes. That's all we're gonna do. Uh, So

997
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: join us. Think of us as your second screen experience. Right,

998
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: You'll have the you'll have the draft up on wherever

999
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: you're watching it, and you can have us on the

1000
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: second monitor there just hanging out and talking about this.

1001
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: And maybe there'll be trades. There will be trades. There

1002
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: definitely will be trades. We'll see how big they are.

1003
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: Eight eastern, eight eastern. Okay, yeah, Now, now what time

1004
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: does the number one pick actually occur? Yeah, like eight ten,

1005
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: eight fifteen, I don't know, I can't remember. Yeah, yeah,

1006
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: Silver will come out. Will boo him. That'll be fun.

1007
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: The Brooklyn crowd will boo him. Yeah, He'll say the

1008
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: Wizards around the clock. They'll take all five minutes to

1009
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: build the drama.

1010
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: So I'll probably say congratulations to the New York in

1011
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 3: the championship. That'll get some booze as well.

1012
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 1: Well, yeah booze. I think that's gonna get.

1013
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: A huge Knicks fan in the stadium in that stadium, all.

1014
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: Right, So uh Joey tomorrow night. I'll get that stream

1015
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: up pretty shortly so you can hit the notify me

1016
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,520
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1017
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: pm Eastern around there will be live.

1018
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: I like, there's another guy like named Dalon swayin Oh yeah,

1019
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: yeah player. But here's the weird thing to me. I'm

1020
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: looking at Tankathon's mock draft here, No Jalen's no one

1021
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: well had a single Jalen in the top sixty. Interesting,

1022
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 3: the odds against that are like pretty high at this point,

1023
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, when's the last time we had a

1024
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 3: draft with no Jayleen? It could have been last year.

1025
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't mean that's a good question, But what's daylan.

1026
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: We got Jayden?

1027
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: We got we got two Jayden's.

1028
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: I do like this name too. I don't know if

1029
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying it correctly, so apologies in advance. Le Baron

1030
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: Philon Junior. Yeah, that's a crazy name. I don't know,

1031
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: just the double name ending in the oh when Yeah,

1032
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: LeBaron file. Yeah, got my name in it too. It's

1033
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: apparently pretty good, right, Alabama guy, skinny tall skinny guy.

1034
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,840
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00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,920
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1038
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1039
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: the watch party with the Draft. As we've hit our

1040
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,920
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1046
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,320
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1047
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,560
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1049
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1050
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1051
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1054
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1060
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