WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Who Will Be The Sacrificial Lamb? 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.039 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:19.200 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lande, 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:24.799 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. No. 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:29.800 Your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCray, and new He scrugs. 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.080 All right here we are trying to figure this thing 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.080 out on a Tuesday. I'm doing scrugs. Walk to the 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.400 players lane. I'm a long time Cowboys reporter, joined by 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.440 Barry Church and Danny mccraig, two former Dallas Cowboy players. 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.680 All right, let me use a good old Jason Garrett line. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:53.960 How are you doing, guys. I'm doing good. I'm doing 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.480 good over here, man. I'm just you know, I'm doing good. 0:00:57.720 --> 0:00:59.920 I'm good. Man. I'm checking out that that big elephant 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:04.840 behind Church head back there, man, what you got the man? Yeah, 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.720 the elephant TuS the elephant tusks coming off the back. 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.119 You know, it's all over the place right now. That's 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.000 it's crazy right now. Okay. I thought it was. I 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:15.600 thought I thought it gave you some of your special 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:17.640 nocial novice powers or something. I didn't know. I think 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.279 it was the art that she was getting the vibe 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:21.520 the vibe coming back in the art. I got you 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.920 y'all day coming y'all, Like I said, y'all have y'all day. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.400 Y'all's coming. Though it's coming, it's not coming like you've 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:32.360 made it come. Okay. So, by the way, Danny, before 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:34.440 the show, I was filling out my picks for the 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.840 Dallas Morning News for the NFL picks. I made sure 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.200 that I did it by myself this week because that's 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.120 so much ground, the cover up that Barry messed up 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:47.240 last while, Church against the spread. Church you were three 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.320 ft eleven. Man, you only got hold y'all from the jump. 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.400 I told y'all from the jump. The spread was never 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.640 a part of this. It was always was too Yeah, 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:03.040 the church straight up you were five or nine. I mean, 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:06.160 in a lot of ways, you're worse picking them straight 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.720 because those are the easiest ones to pick. It gets bad. 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:13.760 No no, no, no no, no no no no no no 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.880 no no no. You said five up nine no five 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:25.040 and nine and nine five five five four little time 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.200 of them all? You know what that was last week? 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.639 That was last week man, literally with el Man. This 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.040 thing is literally with el So yes, I made my 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:37.560 picks this week without consulting Barry, because now I got 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:40.080 a whole lot of ground to make up. Now, what 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.119 I didn't do, or what I find out a little 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.720 bit later on, is how you did against everybody else. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:50.240 Yeah kay, I'll have that little bit later on to 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:53.320 see how you didn't get steppingwhere else. But I'm gonna 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.400 still get the biggest L of all though, y'all gonna 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.480 see I'm gonna still get the biggest W of all 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.440 at the end of the season. Y'all a streamer, Okay, brother, 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.800 I'm just saying, man, you you you don't. Don't you 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.360 don't let your wife know you picking games with no 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:12.920 money involved. Okay, Okay, you know baby ain't gonna have 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.160 no diapers if you put money on these picks. Okay, 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:19.160 So so don't you do that, don't. I said, y'all 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.000 day's coming, man, y'all day is somebody's paying you. Bro. 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.840 I'm convinced because this three, this is one, this one 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.160 eighty that you made, you know, from not drinking the 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:28.800 kool aid to making fun of new It, and all 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:30.480 of a sudden, now you sipping the kool aid, tod 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.040 you saw what they put out there on the field, 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.480 and you decided to take another simp and say they're 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.880 gonna win the championship. See how I see how I 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.280 wrong with that one. He's a chef. I'm in there. 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.440 I gotta go. I gotta go with the kitchen. I 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.680 gotta sip with the kitchen. Man. I'm I'm a chef. 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:48.760 I'm cooking it up man. Okay Lands Lounge brought to 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.520 you by Hotels dot Com. Jerry Jones on one or 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.320 five three, the fans set there is no leadership void 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.720 on this football team. Let me read you his quote. 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:03.040 But seriously, where would you have a leadership void? Is 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.080 it an experienced void? Is it a talent void? Is 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.520 it a leadership void. I'm not trying to be cute here. 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.760 The answer is no. The answer is no. Well shut 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:15.480 up and let me answer it. No. That's the exchange 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.279 he had with Sean Sharif and r J Chopping. So 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:24.960 no leadership void, per Jerry Jumps. I don't I don't 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.719 know if I want to comment on that one, we 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:28.560 might I might not be on the show no more. 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:36.240 My man, man salty, Hey be quiet and let me 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:38.560 talk or else. I'm just let you know, all right, 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.240 we don't have no leadership problems. But but you but 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.800 the truth is, you do you got you got big 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.359 leadership problems. And that's coming from somebody who was in 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.080 the locker room yours, and uh, you know it's it's 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.680 it's an issue. So maybe maybe they'll get it fixed. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.279 He sees something that we don't see because he's in 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.880 this current locker room. But from the outside looking in, 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.120 I think ninety nine percent of the people's watch this 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.280 team says the same thing. So I mean, I think 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.760 he was frustrated because he's hurt that so much, and 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:11.600 that was just the start that broke the camera's back. Yeah, man, yeah, 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:13.039 I think, I mean, of course, I think you know 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.400 they have leadership issues. I mean it's it's definitely you know, 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.240 you could you could see it the writings on the wall. 0:05:18.279 --> 0:05:21.080 I mean when you got players coming out saying, you know, 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.359 we don't agree with this system or this system doesn't 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:26.440 work with us, and you got anonymous quote saying nobody 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.479 believes in what the coach is doing. And then the 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.920 coach is going on on the media talking about, well, 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.360 they need to say it with their chest, they need 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.400 to have some pride and put some name behind it. 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.080 And then the supposed leaders of the team go out 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.440 there and say yeah, that and that. You know, people 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.680 saying without without without anonymously. You know, that's a coward move. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.240 So I mean there's definitely, you know, leadership issue because 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.039 if you had that bona fide leader, if you had 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.240 that guy that can basically shut everything down on the 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.520 locker room before it even gets out like that, none 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:56.000 of this would have happened. So for me, we definitely 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.320 have a little bit of issue right here. But we 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.640 got to get it resolved. We gotta get it resolved, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.919 and I'm not sure if we're gonna be able to 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.040 do that by the end of the year. But there's 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.599 something that needs to get a handle and handle fast. 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.719 You you left out the hustle part. Don't forget that 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.159 impossible to hustle too. That's that's what you're starting. You're starting. 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.560 Safety said that. You know, man, that's and that's the 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.000 example for your team. Hey man, I can't do it 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:20.840 the whole game, So I'm gonna give you a little bit, 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.320 but every other place, you know, I'm gonna take off 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.800 a little bit. And you know, y'all serious, I mean, 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.240 it's impossible. You don't really expect me to hustle the 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.760 whole game, do you I think? Come on, bro, come on, 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.599 I mean all they gotta all I gotta do is 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.440 show that that DK metcalf that cut. I mean when 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.640 when he you know, he chased down Blue Baker, who's 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.120 one of the fastest dbs in the league, chased him down, 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.120 you know, after a long drive. So, I mean, we 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:45.919 gotta fix something. Man. You got like you said, you 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.719 got safeties out here talking about Nah, we can't do 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.000 that for one hundred percent? Are you kidding me? I mean, 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:54.440 this is it's ridiculous. Man. Hey, look he said there's 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.200 no void. Okay, So he said there's no leadership void. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.400 And I will file that under what Bill Parcels used 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:04.000 to saying. All I can go by is what I see. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.039 Jerry's in the room. He may see it differently, but 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.840 from what I see, I do think that there's a 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:15.520 leadership boy. Scott Shanley as a former Dallas Cowboys linebacker 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.640 who ended up going over to the Saints and winning 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:20.080 the Super Bowl, and he put out a tweet last 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.440 week when James Slater had put out that put out 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.960 the tweet about the anonymous sources, and he said, wait 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:27.920 a minute, these are the same players who were complaining 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.240 about Jason Garrett, Rob Baronelli. Now that's in here complaining 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.240 about a new staff. Maybe it's the guys, you know, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.320 put this on the guys. And so look, there's no 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:41.440 matter what Jerry says, they've got an issue here where 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.200 they're not just losing games, they're getting blown out. And 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:49.720 you're getting blown out by teams that just like, okay, 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:51.720 nobody blowing them. Mout's gonna end up in the Super 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.760 bowls year. I'm pretty comfident. I don't see the Browns 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.000 playing in Super Bowl this year. I don't see Washington 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.640 playing in Super Bowl this year. Okay, Now, these are 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.080 the teams that are blowing the wars off of them. 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:06.360 And Jerry did say on his radio show today that 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:09.280 there will be changes on the defensive lunt he did 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.680 say there'll be changes, and um, he did allude that 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:16.040 don Terry Poe is a guy that that uh, you know, 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.600 he may be finished with. So he had changed right 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.720 there with Terry Pop. Let me tell you so, let 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.320 me tell you something two things. Let me let me 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.640 get this. First of all, we got a lot a 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:29.160 lot of the moree getting blown out to do for 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:30.960 the season night. So some of the teams that blow 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.680 us out might be playing in the Super Bowl. H too. Listen, 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:38.120 my man Terry Poe was the only person took a knee. Listen. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.880 His time was coming sometime soon anyways. And three listen, 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.600 we we we we throw a leadership out there a lot. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.480 So I just want everybody to know what we mean 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.920 when we say leadership. When when you have a guy 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:51.960 that's a leader in the locker room, like a Jason 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.240 Wooden or DeMarcus Ware, the younger players are are the 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.440 people that follow him. They can wash the way that 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.360 he works out, They can wash the way that he 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.240 take care care of his body. They can watch the 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.320 way that they practices, they can watch the way that 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.480 these studies, and they can follow him and they have 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:07.040 an example for how to do it. So when you 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.319 watch the markets where play, you don't see him lofa. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.160 When you see when he's studying film, he's doing it, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.520 you know, a particular way so he can really get 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.640 a read on something, so he's not just watching tape. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.080 He's actually trying to get an advantage. These are things 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.400 that the leader leader does and then they take the 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.000 younger guys along with them. So then you have everybody 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.080 playing hard, everybody's studying, everybody taking care of the body 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.280 so they can be the best that they can be 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.200 when there on the fields. And so that's what we're saying. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.560 When when they saying that they missing something to Marcus, 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:34.800 you know he's not going to be anonymous source to 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.640 the to the media. Like all these things are what 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.520 a leader would do. So we say leadership, that's what 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:41.880 we mean. They lead off the field and on the 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.680 field by example. But who can you see outside outside 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.920 of four and maybe you know Sean Lee, is there 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.040 anybody you see on this team that has that, you know, 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.680 capability that can that can lead these guys or at 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.680 least put them in the right direction. I'll tell you this. 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.400 It's it's it's crazy because you know, the best part 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.520 of our team, even probably the oldest part was the 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.960 offensive line. But you know how the offensive line is, man, 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.080 they hang they hang around each other. It's real difficult 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.880 for offensive lineman to be a leader of the team, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.600 right because there they hang around and they're clicking. Everybody 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.480 respects them and they see how they work out, but 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.160 they're usually not the vocal the vocal guys at least 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.079 in the Cowboys locker room that I was in. So 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.760 you know, it's hard to find one of those guys. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.760 Byron was probably one of those guys. Jeff Heath was 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:26.880 one of those guys. But you know that, you know 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.720 they're no longer here. Jalen is trying to be but 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.120 you know, the play on the field sometimes just doesn't 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.199 doesn't show. I think he has the ability to be 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:36.760 that guy, but uh, you know it's so far it 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:40.720 just hadn't showed up. All right. So m more on 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.920 leadership from Jerry Jones today on his weekly interview one 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:45.559 or five three of the Fan And when he was 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.240 asked about does he see leadership quote, you're not asking 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.120 me that. I gave you the answer when I go 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:54.040 into the locker room, there's no leadership void in my eyes. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:59.840 Now there's your answer. Let's move on to Jerry Heats. Yeah. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.839 See that's not you know, when he's going in the 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.959 locker room, especially after a blowout loss. I mean he's 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.920 probably just seeing guys vent and guys being angry, you know, 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.600 guys over there talking about man, but get your act together. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:12.199 We could have been this better. We could have did 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.320 that better. You know that. You know it's all good 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.840 when after the fact, but you know, true leadership and 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.480 true guys that lead that locker room. I mean you're 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.920 seeing that the whole week leading up to the game. 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.000 You're seeing those guys like you know, Sean Lee to 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.280 Jason Wittens of the world when we were there showing 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.480 guys how to prepare it each and every day, you know, 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.680 getting in guys grill, getting in guy's face and letting 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.280 them know at practice that hey, this isn't the right way. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.400 We gotta hustle, we gotta do this. And that's what 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:36.840 you should be seeing all the way up to the 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.160 locker room, not just you know, after a blowout, after 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.640 a blowout loss or or maybe even a win, guys 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.120 venting and guys saying yeah, because then anybody's it's easy 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.200 to be a leader. Then So for me, I mean, 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.320 you just gotta, like like mcrai said, we just need 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:50.320 somebody to step up and get into that position where 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.800 they can lead these guys throughout the whole week. And 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.000 you know, Sean Lee not being there, I mean, that's 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:56.400 that's a that's a big, you know hit to the 0:11:56.440 --> 0:12:00.280 leadership board and Also, you cannot just be come a 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.320 leader today if they don't have one yet, they're not 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.280 finding one, all right. So it's not it's not something 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.000 that you could just turn on this week, all right. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.520 So that's something that happens through our workouts, you know, 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.959 through time and experience with a guy. You know, you 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.040 see him do all this type of stuff, and so 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.280 far we hadn't seen anybody you know, do that type 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.360 of stuff. So, like I said, Sean Lee would be 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.240 a help just just straight off, you know, being on 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.319 the field and being that type of leader. Okay, so 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:29.280 let me just ask this question, Tank Lawrence doesn't figure intodition. 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.560 You're talking about ladyship. A guy who when they gave 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.360 him the contract, it's a highest pay contract in cowboy history, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.560 you don't consider it leader. I mean, see that's you know, 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.640 that's where it comes up every a lot of people think, 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.439 you know, just because you know, this guy's got the 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.160 highest contract or this guy's the best player on the 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.320 team when it comes to being on the football field 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.880 and doesn't necessarily make them the you know, greatest leaders 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.080 for the whole team. I mean, and I think that's 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:55.560 what made that so valuable to this franchise because not 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.959 only was he a playmaker, not only did he lead 0:12:58.000 --> 0:12:59.599 this team on the field and get people going in 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:02.160 the right direction and kind of have that juice, but 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:03.840 you see it off the field, he showed he was 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.120 showing this team how to go about things, how to practice, 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.320 how to how to be a you know, a consummate 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.040 pro because he was taught by that from you know, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.240 the Romos in the in the Witness of the World. 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.520 So that just goes to show you how valuable a 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.600 guy like that is. But you know, just because you're 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.520 the highest paid or the best doesn't mean you're a 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.840 great leader all around. You just told me no. You 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.640 just told me no. So I asked you, I'm not 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:29.199 gonna say that. Yeah, I'm not. I'm right now. The 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.400 leadership void is there. And I think because the season 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.600 has been so bad that you know, it's so glaring, 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.480 um that that some guys will have to learn how 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.800 to do it in these tough situations because a lot 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.680 of these guys haven't been in a situation like this. Um. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.320 Like I said, I think they can, but I think 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:49.800 right now it's probably a little bit too late, because 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.440 you know, you already got some of that stuff seeping in. 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.880 You've already had your team meetings, and now you just 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.880 it's crazy that you're waiting for sean leader to come back. 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:58.920 And I'm sitting here like he's gonna be the leaders? 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.200 He are they gonna start lead? You know? Is he 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.440 gonna be leading from the sideline. It's it's crazy. The 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:08.199 situation that they're in is real crazy. Okay, Danny, I'm 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.520 just gonna I'm just based on what what you just 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.280 told me in church, has just told me. I've asked 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:17.079 the question. It's Tank Lawrence. Is he a leader? A 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.920 guy that they made the highest paid player cowboy history. 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.200 I'm not hearing either one of you said yes. He 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.840 let me cleared up. Let me cleared up, Let me 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.520 cleared up. He is. Yes, he's a leader. He's no listen, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.520 he's a leader. He's not leading all right? Him, he's 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.840 a leader. He is not leading right now. We have 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.480 seen him be a leader on the defense. We've seen 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.240 him gallant, get those guys together, especially the line. We've 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.800 seen him, you know, show those characteristics. Right now, he's 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:50.640 not leading, okay. Yeah, So so when Jerry says there's 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:54.120 a leadership, boy, you guys just listen to what you're 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.160 telling me is there is a leadership boy. And right now, 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.360 according to just listening to you guys and some other 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:06.840 people who do podcasts here on the Dallas Cowboys, they're 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:08.920 they're expecting Sean Leader ride in with a white horse. 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:14.000 That we're counting on a dude who, with all due respect, 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.440 plays hard. But they ain't available a whole lot. So 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.800 this guy is supposed to. Don't you know? They just 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.640 attached this growing back and he gonna run out here. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:27.400 You're just adding Sean Lee is not going to be, 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.880 you know, the answer to all problems. I mean, will 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.920 it help? I mean yeah, I mean he might do 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.520 more help off the fielding on, but I mean he's 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.160 not gonna come in here and just be the answer 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.720 to everything. I mean, but anything can help. I mean 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.800 we're at the low of lows right now, so any 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.680 anything can help. He won't. He won't be the answer. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.160 But but listen, I can guarantee you when he's on 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.040 the field, he will hold those guys accountable and they 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:53.040 will play a lot harder. I can almost guarantee you 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.080 that there will be a lot less loafing. Guys will 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.560 be on attention to detail, they'll know what's coming. He 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.680 will be called all in out certain things. The defensive 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:04.400 look totally different, and those guys would be held accountable 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:06.520 because they're gonna play hard for a guy who's playing 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.440 like Sean Lee and the guy who has that type 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.240 of experience and carriage, that type of leadership. I believe that. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.600 I'm not saying, you know, they go out here and 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.840 you know, shut nobody out, but you I think you'll 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.680 see a different attitude from him when when he's actually 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:19.920 on the field. That's what I'm saying. Well, I don't 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:21.360 know when he's gonna be on there, how they're gonna 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:23.560 how they're gonna run that with Nolan. You know, maybe 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:25.040 after he get the house out side is out here 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.240 to figure out the way to get Sean involved. Okay, 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:34.600 my bad, bad, My bad. I had to I had to, 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.960 My bad. No, it was funny. It was funny. I 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.560 almost almost put a thing of houseuce right here on camera, 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.400 but you know, I didn't want to get you into it. 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.280 It was funny. Man, he knew that he knew that 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:50.720 was coming from somebody. Hey boys throwing shots, man, that's 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:56.640 why mmmmm, let's dive into that. That was that was 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:58.600 that was gonna be on the flip side of it. 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:02.239 But let's dive into defensive coordinator who's had his struggles 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.840 had a press conference in it almost it was comical, 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.440 I mean truly, it was comical for poor Mike Nolan. 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