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Speaker 5: You find the day you better show up.
Speaker 3: So that's the d You guys cant to show up
Speaker 3: on time cutting so you guys to watch people go down.
Speaker 5: No, No, it's the player like PTSD me where it
Speaker 5: was like hold on, man, you got to make sure
Speaker 5: you're early on cut day.
Speaker 6: Just you know, I did. I did.
Speaker 5: I wanted to have a flash back of my player days.
Speaker 3: So, according to Todd Archer, the cop was already released.
Speaker 4: Offensive line and Collins. Other cuts are offensive, she said.
Speaker 3: Cornerback Christian Matthew, offensive line and Nick Broker, wide receiver
Speaker 3: Josh Kelly, tight end John Stevens junior, Tyler uh Neville
Speaker 3: another tight end cut cornerback Troy Pride and defensive tackle
Speaker 3: den Zell Dackson.
Speaker 4: Those are the early cuts. More to come. So surprise anyone,
Speaker 4: in surprise, not too crazy.
Speaker 6: LC, No the lolling surprised.
Speaker 7: No, Okay, So the surprising thing is this, Dak said
Speaker 7: he wanted him, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 7: thought that he would get more of an opportunity to
Speaker 7: fulfill Dak's needs. You know what I'm saying, the Dak's warrants.
Speaker 7: Under the circumstances. It didn't happen a waight like that.
Speaker 7: So you know, I just thought, like I'm not surprised,
Speaker 7: but just thought he would have a little longer leash.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you that it didn't surprise me,
Speaker 5: but I thought he would have been like the last
Speaker 5: minute cut, like you you need that veteran leadership, like
Speaker 5: you said, you're starting quarterback being avid for you and
Speaker 5: we all know that once Jerry like his guys that
Speaker 5: he paid, he liked, you know, he keeps them around.
Speaker 5: And so for me, it was like I thought he
Speaker 5: would have been like a last minute cut, but based
Speaker 5: off of his reps and stuff like that, like I
Speaker 5: seen you trying to improve your value coaching them up.
Speaker 5: But the stars it was right there. I just didn't
Speaker 5: think it was to be like, hey, we're gonna tell
Speaker 5: you early so you know you can go out there fishing.
Speaker 5: But they might have did that, so you know, he
Speaker 5: maybe he can go fill out these other teams and
Speaker 5: say hey, I'm gonna be released and maybe get a
Speaker 5: jump start on this.
Speaker 8: So he definitely had the move right show my words
Speaker 8: as a coach on the sideline.
Speaker 4: I can get it, I can do.
Speaker 6: This, do this.
Speaker 5: You know, you get injuries over here, coaching up the
Speaker 5: next best thing, your second round pick right there, showing
Speaker 5: them the nuances to understand the game.
Speaker 4: I could be an extra coach out there.
Speaker 6: I get it. Get your fact.
Speaker 4: Wasn't surprised, though. It kind of surprised me slightly, and
Speaker 4: we talked about this.
Speaker 6: In the text.
Speaker 8: Was John Stevens the tight end I thought I was.
Speaker 8: I thought he had something that had a little something.
Speaker 8: I mean, you got the injury last year. I'm seeing
Speaker 8: him bounce back from a big body tight Enderson dealing
Speaker 8: with some issues.
Speaker 6: We're talking about him. I thought he was.
Speaker 8: I thought he would come in here and at least,
Speaker 8: you know, maybe be that last second squad. He might
Speaker 8: be able to come back on Pea squad he might
Speaker 8: be able to come back. But yeah, I thought he
Speaker 8: was going to be had a chance at least.
Speaker 3: But yeah, when they brought Leal back, first thing, he
Speaker 3: was skinny right compared to weight left. I mean, he
Speaker 3: looked like he retired, you know, because because you guys
Speaker 3: know very well to two things happened to fat.
Speaker 8: Fat guys get skinny, Skinny guys get big, you know.
Speaker 3: And I remember when when that had the retirement for tiers.
Speaker 3: When they came back, first off, tiring looked good. Always
Speaker 3: he definitely I ain't coming back. He's really slim down.
Speaker 3: And then all looked really good too. And so when
Speaker 3: they brought him out to camp and I saw like
Speaker 3: he's still you know, still slim. And then when they
Speaker 3: said they weren't even gonna put it on the left side,
Speaker 3: they were, we're gonna put it right. We're gonna put
Speaker 3: him at guard out of the tackle. Oh okay. So yeah,
Speaker 3: they did a dak a favor. But he didn't play.
Speaker 3: That's theerto thing in the preseason, right, he wasn't playing
Speaker 3: out there practicing, he wasn't running with the ones, he
Speaker 3: wasn't doing anything that made you say.
Speaker 4: Okay, we're gonna try to get this guy ready to go.
Speaker 3: So when that happened, and knowing that, okay, you're a veteran,
Speaker 3: we have to have you on here, paid his cash. No,
Speaker 3: because they know they can pick up the phone and always.
Speaker 4: Old lineman two because you know they don't.
Speaker 6: They don't. They don't get on the teams, you know.
Speaker 8: I mean, they can't run down, set off the line,
Speaker 8: and run down on no kickoff.
Speaker 4: It's tough for them to do more than just what
Speaker 4: their unit is what they do.
Speaker 5: But as far as like needing an old lineman that's
Speaker 5: VET ready, like you see that all the time.
Speaker 6: They go grab those guys.
Speaker 5: So, but I would say the one nuance being a
Speaker 5: journeyman that you don't hear a lot about. You'll see
Speaker 5: a lot of guys that you think are veting. Obviously
Speaker 5: not in this case, but some guys that really push
Speaker 5: that mark where you say, hey, we really think he
Speaker 5: was gonna be on the team and he get cut
Speaker 5: week one. Well, fans out there, there's in every contract
Speaker 5: if you're a VET, after you're vested after if you're
Speaker 5: on that roster by the first week, you're guaranteed your
Speaker 5: contract for the whole year. So sometimes it's a it's
Speaker 5: a money play. It's comatic part of it, like when
Speaker 5: they say it's above my pay grade.
Speaker 6: So you might see a guy that.
Speaker 5: Gets cut and you be like, hey, we're definitely bringing
Speaker 5: them back week two.
Speaker 6: We just don't want to be on.
Speaker 5: The hook for whatever whatever that contract we got you for,
Speaker 5: like how you were saying with Miles Sanders, say he
Speaker 5: get cut and he comes back, we're not on the
Speaker 5: hook for your contract, and we can get you back cheaper.
Speaker 3: But so in a case like that, if you were
Speaker 3: going to keep Collins, he would you wouldn't just run
Speaker 3: him out here this early exactly. You wait till the
Speaker 3: end and just say, hey, look all right, we did
Speaker 3: this because you you're letting some of these guys gouse.
Speaker 3: You want to let hey, man, go ahead, get yourself
Speaker 3: an opportunity to go someplace else. I want to help
Speaker 3: you out. We're not even looking at you for the
Speaker 3: practice squad. You know, go ahead, go ahead, go you know, yes,
Speaker 3: go continue your life's work.
Speaker 6: So that's respect.
Speaker 5: That's respecting him because you really could keep him on
Speaker 5: the hook and make him think that he's going to
Speaker 5: be here and then all of a sudden when the
Speaker 5: final cuts come, like people already have in their mind
Speaker 5: thinking that you're going to make the team. Now you
Speaker 5: haven't been able to vet your options. He can go
Speaker 5: home and really sit down and say, hey, am I
Speaker 5: going to join the team right away? Or you know,
Speaker 5: I can really assess my body if I want to
Speaker 5: gain a little more weight, because you know, for whatever reason.
Speaker 8: And as a young player, it takes a mature like
Speaker 8: you know and Lyos. You know, he's a vet, he
Speaker 8: understands the game. But we got these young guys, first year,
Speaker 8: second year, rookie guys. Take some mature player to realize, like,
Speaker 8: you know, the the organization is looking out for you,
Speaker 8: so you can, you know, go pursue other teams. Get
Speaker 8: you got good tape out there, because when you get
Speaker 8: that cut, you you might, Man, these guts ain't even
Speaker 8: want me. It can put you down in the dumps.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: It takes takes a guy that's like, Okay, this ain't
Speaker 4: the end.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep going.
Speaker 8: Because I've seen a lot of cats that just you know,
Speaker 8: you get that snipping and it's just they never regained
Speaker 8: that confidence to feel like they belong in the lead
Speaker 8: and That's.
Speaker 6: The biggest thing about it is the mental fortitude.
Speaker 5: And I can speak on this just like after you
Speaker 5: get that cut and then you just keep going and
Speaker 5: keep going, like you really got to have that energize
Speaker 5: to battery mentality that I'm made for this. There's thirty
Speaker 5: one options every Tuesday, somebody is having a tryout. To
Speaker 5: say that, because initially when it happens, especially like America's team,
Speaker 5: like who wants to get cut from Dallas? Like that
Speaker 5: that plays a big part. So if you get cut
Speaker 5: from the Dream Team, you'd be like over their mental
Speaker 5: year out of it, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 5: you lose one step and we all know that it
Speaker 5: takes one step, So this is that time. So it's
Speaker 5: it's a little rough. But like you said, if you're
Speaker 5: a good vet like leel Is, I think.
Speaker 7: You Hopefully these dudes got some you know, if you
Speaker 7: don't have that that that that tape out there, you
Speaker 7: don't got that video out there, Hopefully you got an agent,
Speaker 7: they got some connections. You know what I'm saying, it's
Speaker 7: work with somebody before you know, because just like you said,
Speaker 7: you know, it's it's some some dudes get fortunate enough
Speaker 7: to like when they when that they get cut, they
Speaker 7: actually get an opportunity to go somewhere else. But some dudes, this,
Speaker 7: this is gonna be the only way they get home.
Speaker 6: Deepole fire man, new doctors seen it at La.
Speaker 4: Go back to your life's work, life's work.
Speaker 3: So Friday night the Atlanta Falcons came to Jerry World
Speaker 3: and go down thirty one to thirteen. Joe Milton got
Speaker 3: the start today.
Speaker 6: I was gone, Hey, what what? No overthrow? Joe?
Speaker 4: I wasn't there for the job second and second quarter?
Speaker 3: Man, I hear that, guys, I didn't see why you
Speaker 3: didn't watching.
Speaker 4: I had to go. I had to go do the
Speaker 4: ten o'clock.
Speaker 9: The big money, my bad three games, saw two drives.
Speaker 4: Joe did his things and I went. I went in
Speaker 4: the studio with the work man.
Speaker 5: Seen enough for you to take back that overthrow, Joe comment, Man,
Speaker 5: it's starting to come into fruition.
Speaker 6: What I said, didn't I say? What did you wanted
Speaker 6: to get? I know.
Speaker 7: What we did say that he had three chances in
Speaker 7: three weeks to put this thing in together. Every every
Speaker 7: week something did get a little bit better, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean?
Speaker 9: Asked them the question getting better but I appreciate you
Speaker 9: answer any question, but avoided and he's trying to set
Speaker 9: up but you ain't.
Speaker 3: Right then this is why plays a risky crack game.
Speaker 3: Game over there, man, get this thing all right, Tree,
Speaker 3: you're playing with power right now. Milton ten of eighteen
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty two yards, one touchdown through the air,
Speaker 3: one rushing touchdown, no sacks, quarterback rating in ninety seven
Speaker 3: point five.
Speaker 4: So you believe that.
Speaker 3: Are you all good if this is your backup quarterback,
Speaker 3: the number two guy?
Speaker 4: If Dak gets hurt against Philadelphia?
Speaker 6: I am I am.
Speaker 5: I am good with what I seen he is son
Speaker 5: through all the preseason, like AD said, he's progressively gotten better.
Speaker 5: He's shown the big arm, which we already know, but
Speaker 5: we finally seen what we've been asking for, the touch
Speaker 5: like it comes with experience, and so yes, he's had
Speaker 5: enough reps to show me that he can do that,
Speaker 5: and then on top of that, to show you that
Speaker 5: he could run the way that he was doing it
Speaker 5: like it was a good game plan.
Speaker 6: And like I said, if we have to see the backup,
Speaker 6: we won our bet.
Speaker 5: So I don't plan on seeing him, but he showed
Speaker 5: me enough to be like yes, don't overreach and go
Speaker 5: get a vet out here and pay all that money
Speaker 5: to somebody else.
Speaker 4: Anthony Door sat.
Speaker 7: I just, I just, I gotta be honest. And I've
Speaker 7: seen Joe progress over the three weeks. But is he
Speaker 7: ready to be the number two? If that goes down
Speaker 7: week one? Nah, Joe's He's just not ready for that yet.
Speaker 7: We want, well, it could happen.
Speaker 4: He has to go in against Philadelphia.
Speaker 6: I like, when we're going in, there's rusty football.
Speaker 7: Man, you know so, But but that's just where I'm
Speaker 7: going with it, like to be honest with you, and
Speaker 7: I mean, and we had an opportunity to actually see
Speaker 7: it up closer in person with Cooper Rush here and
Speaker 7: just to see how his mechanics were as far as
Speaker 7: going through and being like being the number two and
Speaker 7: and and just seeing how solid he was and how
Speaker 7: dependable he was as a number two. And he's there
Speaker 7: in Baltimore now of course with behind the m v
Speaker 7: p QB up there, and you know, it just goes
Speaker 7: to say, like, I don't have that same level of
Speaker 7: confidence with Joe right now. I'm just just being out
Speaker 7: upsetting man, And like if he was my teammate, like
Speaker 7: if I'm in the locker room you.
Speaker 6: It ain't that you said a few minutes ago. You liked.
Speaker 7: He did, like he puts something together, and it's like
Speaker 7: every young player is supposed to do, you know what
Speaker 7: I mean, But like it's not it's not a complete
Speaker 7: I mean, cake isn't done baking.
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush was the cake that wasn't done baking, and
Speaker 5: he still was able to go in there and do that.
Speaker 6: At least this guy has.
Speaker 5: Shown you that the cake is baking well over time,
Speaker 5: and he has more tangibles.
Speaker 6: Like I mean, Trey Lance had more know we just
Speaker 6: we're just didn't.
Speaker 5: He might have had more tangible but he didn't display those.
Speaker 5: But Joe displayed those tangibles. And this last game he
Speaker 5: was over there, ha ha ha, over the shoulder, just
Speaker 5: a little bit of soft kiss chef right there. Then
Speaker 5: he showed you let me get busy, long, run fast.
Speaker 6: Where's the consistency with it? Though? Like that over time?
Speaker 8: If you're shotting him, are you are you confident at
Speaker 8: him being the number two?
Speaker 7: If you and you're Shottenheimer coaching everywhere, you didn't coach
Speaker 7: with all the dudes, you didn't coach too.
Speaker 5: As well, it's different. It's a different grating scale as
Speaker 5: my backup. Yes, I am comfortable. I am comfortable right
Speaker 5: there on business. I'm just because you asked me again
Speaker 5: doesn't mean that it's gonna change. I told you he
Speaker 5: showed me enough to one. Like I said, I'm not
Speaker 5: playing on him being in there. But if for some
Speaker 5: reason he has to go in there, I like what
Speaker 5: he's doing right here.
Speaker 6: He has a cannon. He showed me that he can
Speaker 6: throw the touch.
Speaker 5: See that, go in there and coach the month pickens
Speaker 5: over there, get him something. But my fa go ahead, Hey,
Speaker 5: they gonna lead that by show you gotta get in there, man. Man.
Speaker 7: So my dad, my dad, if the Cowboys winning to
Speaker 7: play for the Broncos, right, put it down. My dad
Speaker 7: was like in his like tenth eleventh year, going to
Speaker 7: play for Devin Broncos. John Elway was a quarterback. My
Speaker 7: dad said, he rolled out for a little swing pass.
Speaker 7: John Elway throws the ball breaks every ligament in my
Speaker 7: dad's fingers because he's throwing the ball one hundred and
Speaker 7: twenty miles an hour on the past that could have
Speaker 7: been just dumped off.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, touch is very vital in
Speaker 6: the NFL.
Speaker 7: It is to have some type of touch on the
Speaker 7: ball and everything else like that.
Speaker 6: He showed you that the last game. But I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 6: good is your last reps and this guy we.
Speaker 4: All can can agree needs the reps right now.
Speaker 6: He does need these reps.
Speaker 8: I just don't know where if we're going in a
Speaker 8: regular season and Dak's rolling. But you know we've seen
Speaker 8: things happen in the past, missus games here and there
Speaker 8: during the regular season, that backup's not getting reps. He
Speaker 8: may get two or three snaps here and there per period,
Speaker 8: but he's not getting those developmental reps where he's out
Speaker 8: there slinging the football. So you're asking Joe Milton to
Speaker 8: go out there limited reps in practice against a full
Speaker 8: speed once for other opposing teams to just go out
Speaker 8: there and start cooking.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I would be comfortable in that.
Speaker 8: Cooper Rush was great in that role because he already
Speaker 8: understood what it was and he was an experienced quarterback
Speaker 8: back then and he was able to go out there
Speaker 8: and cold turkey go out there and still be able
Speaker 8: to perform.
Speaker 5: How did how did Cooper Rush get into the position
Speaker 5: to be one of those quarterbacks. He got thrown out there,
Speaker 5: cold turkey, getting the rep like he was just there.
Speaker 5: Cooper when people when people, when people brought Cooper Rush in,
Speaker 5: they wasn't. He was a developmental piece. They said, oh,
Speaker 5: he needs time and do this and that. Guess what
Speaker 5: he had to get thrown in there and it was like, ah,
Speaker 5: he's serviceable, we can go get better. But yes, he
Speaker 5: grew into that years though. Okay, so then Joe bro Joe.
Speaker 6: Just got We're asking now, though, are you comfortable with
Speaker 6: him being your back? I said, yes, you asked me again.
Speaker 6: If you're shoddy, yes, you know this team got to run? Yes?
Speaker 5: If I am shoddy and a run first, ah, yes,
Speaker 5: I'm going over the stipulations. What a shoy? What type
Speaker 5: offense does he run? A run first? It is a
Speaker 5: run option. It's based off of that. I'm gonna put
Speaker 5: that boy in there. Let him get the run, let
Speaker 5: the office start cooking. He gets his confidence and then
Speaker 5: bomb you might get it a little deep pass off
Speaker 5: the play action. Okay, you got your deep one off
Speaker 5: of there, then I can hit you with a little
Speaker 5: tight end dump right there.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna let it Cook.
Speaker 5: Yeah you. And then most importantly the one thing that
Speaker 5: he did say, like, obviously something here has We've seen
Speaker 5: guys like Cooper Rush, we've seen guys like Kellen Moore,
Speaker 5: no slack than none of those guys, guys that we
Speaker 5: thought should never be playing. But for some reason, the
Speaker 5: backup here typically always does good enough to where it's like, oh, snap,
Speaker 5: he can do that. He's already talked about, Hey man,
Speaker 5: I'm getting stuff here that I didn't have at the Patriots.
Speaker 5: I have a good leader in that people were actually
Speaker 5: showing what to do. Like I feel like I am
Speaker 5: learning way ahead of the curve with me not being
Speaker 5: the guy, so like you having that opportunity, it's a
Speaker 5: different environment. So yes, I really do like what he's
Speaker 5: going to do right here.
Speaker 6: Hopefully we don't have to see it. Hopefully we don't.
Speaker 6: We don't. I like what I but obviously you know
Speaker 6: you like him, Yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Know, yes, put it down development, you know he's the development. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so you got you down.
Speaker 3: I'm comfortable with Joe, and I like what I'm seeing
Speaker 3: trade Moore.
Speaker 5: I will say, like me likeing Joe Milton is no
Speaker 5: more astonine than him jumping off the clips and the wins.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, it's okay.
Speaker 6: What come on here?
Speaker 5: He brings, I don't feel you're not going down, but.
Speaker 6: To take a break on more closer than yours.
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Speaker 5: technically this is really the worst day because some people
Speaker 5: are already gone. You're nervous, and it's like man, I
Speaker 5: can't even really focus on this last day, and you
Speaker 5: really think one is already done, Like the list is
Speaker 5: already there. Nothing that you're gonna do today is really
Speaker 5: just gonna change unless I'm knock gonna would lest somebody
Speaker 5: gets hurt. Like that day during the walkthrough, it's already done.
Speaker 5: So you got the young guys really going in there
Speaker 5: giving it. They're all them potentially leaving it out there
Speaker 5: to know that like oh yeah, good job in practice day, bro.
Speaker 6: But you're still up out of here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you got some vet that's gonna be mad
Speaker 7: after practice that he came up here and wasted this
Speaker 7: whole day.
Speaker 4: That's I don't see that happen a bunch of times.
Speaker 5: You should have told me that, And so that's why
Speaker 5: it's like you think about Leo Collins and it's like, shoot, Lisa,
Speaker 5: I didn't get that extra about me, Like extra five
Speaker 5: hundred dollars ain't worth it.
Speaker 6: It's like, bra I get one extra day of a
Speaker 6: pays worth.
Speaker 5: But it's like, bra I could have been at home
Speaker 5: already going through this and one thing.
Speaker 7: A lot of people at home, y'all don't y'all don't know.
Speaker 7: Like training camp is probably like the worst part of
Speaker 7: football season, and it's the time where you get paid
Speaker 7: the least amount of money while you're going through it.
Speaker 6: No matter who you are.
Speaker 7: You might have a camp bone this or this or that,
Speaker 7: but everybody only getting paid them little bitty scraps throughout.
Speaker 4: The most label.
Speaker 5: The two practices that you're gonna do because they're gonna
Speaker 5: figure out how to do a speed will walk through.
Speaker 5: Then you're gonna have your real practice. Then you're gonna
Speaker 5: have your meat practice about four five hours. Then if
Speaker 5: you want to be good at your job, what they
Speaker 5: say you got to come in and do some extra
Speaker 5: work and.
Speaker 6: Study, so you eating living, sleeping there.
Speaker 5: And then it's like for a young guy coming fresh
Speaker 5: out of college, it's like, yeah, I'm just happy that
Speaker 5: I'm getting paid because I was doing this for free.
Speaker 6: Well it is.
Speaker 3: I'm speaking from when I was university.
Speaker 5: You know, watch out, get out of here. Like before
Speaker 5: it was like you did it for free, you was appreciated.
Speaker 5: Now they're taking paid cuts. But like to go through that,
Speaker 5: you're like, oh, man, but to be a VET, a
Speaker 5: guy that get paid half a million dollars a game
Speaker 5: check or something like that, and you only get maybe
Speaker 5: uh it might be an eight hundred dollars a thousand
Speaker 5: dollars check or something like that, like if if that,
Speaker 5: And it's like, bro, you really brought me up here
Speaker 5: as a VET, a guy that is on the proven
Speaker 5: like a bubble roster guy.
Speaker 6: You got that last day of work, give me my
Speaker 6: game check.
Speaker 4: Like Thomas said, volunteers not.
Speaker 5: What that's a that's what he said. That was a
Speaker 5: passively aggressive volunteer, Like I ain't tell.
Speaker 6: You the volunteer but they used to get boys. They
Speaker 6: used to They still getting them. I just I just
Speaker 6: told you what I just seen.
Speaker 5: They're gonna full speed like I've seen the bags going
Speaker 5: special team drill. I'm like, man, I was over there
Speaker 5: feeding them by the mouth and somebody they don't knowing
Speaker 5: you to compete, if you know.
Speaker 7: But the boys out there, not like guys already filled
Speaker 7: up like that.
Speaker 5: That's why you a glimpse. Don't get me wrong. I'm
Speaker 5: not saying that I was up here with it. Man,
Speaker 5: I'm going to the d C beating room with everybody,
Speaker 5: because they got the real up there. They got the
Speaker 5: reals and they got Actually, if you go on to
Speaker 5: camp when we added in Ox nine, you know, the
Speaker 5: coaches have their own beating room, you know.
Speaker 6: And you know they ain't no place the highestuff drop.
Speaker 8: If you go in there, usually the only coach is
Speaker 8: supposed to be in there, but you know sometimes wandering here,
Speaker 8: they got the depth chart and at the bottom they
Speaker 8: got bubble, the name on the bubble.
Speaker 4: Then they got cut on there.
Speaker 14: Tofore the for the preseason game even start, you got
Speaker 14: hold on my man is about to get cut before
Speaker 14: you about play boy, it was man it's like dangle
Speaker 14: in there.
Speaker 5: And I didn't start playing the game within the game
Speaker 5: until probably about year four. Like I'll never forget when
Speaker 5: I found out through the media that I got cut
Speaker 5: at the Raiders. Yeah, that's a whole nother story. Yeah,
Speaker 5: del my coach and Reggie McKenzie with my gym. Oh yeah, man,
Speaker 5: I'm still mad about that. But like literally I was
Speaker 5: out there and practice. Remember how anyway we could talk
Speaker 5: about this later we talked about but yes, I found
Speaker 5: out through the media, like don and turning up. My
Speaker 5: mom called me five to six times. I'm like, Mom,
Speaker 5: stopped calling. My dad called me two times. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: possn't never call me.
Speaker 6: I answered. He said, hey, man, you're good. Your mama
Speaker 6: worried about you in your job. Yeah, I'm good man.
Speaker 5: You know what I normally and not a good heart
Speaker 5: practice guy. But y'all know I go dad, I'm practicing hard.
Speaker 5: I literally just knocked out the running hold on, let
Speaker 5: me call you Ray, he said, all right, be safe,
Speaker 5: I love you.
Speaker 6: So I just hung up the phone.
Speaker 5: As soon as I hung up the phone, Raiders had
Speaker 5: parted ways with former third round pick of New York
Speaker 5: Johnson de Montree more and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: I hear the back door open and that real behind me.
Speaker 6: He just says, oh, man, I was trying to I
Speaker 6: was trying to get to you before it broke to you.
Speaker 5: And you know, ipples already known this the hot and
Speaker 5: being like mad about stuff, but like you know, I'm
Speaker 5: trying to break every negative stereotype that they have about me.
Speaker 5: You know, the guy that lost his job for fighting
Speaker 5: being hot. He says, you found out and I'm just
Speaker 5: sitting there in my head.
Speaker 4: I'm mad.
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, bro, what are you saying?
Speaker 6: I promising right hand took the Bible. I promise you.
Speaker 6: He came up.
Speaker 5: Man, I was trying to get before the news got
Speaker 5: to you. Man, Like, we really love what we love
Speaker 5: what you're doing. Man, you're practicing hard, but like we're
Speaker 5: just gonna have to part way and of course themself,
Speaker 5: like I'm trying to play the game within the game,
Speaker 5: and oh yeah, it's a cool coach, Like, no, y'all
Speaker 5: really got a great thing going on here. Y'all got
Speaker 5: a young team, y'all got prove servant Khalil Mack. Like, man,
Speaker 5: he said, yeah, but if the opportunity is there and
Speaker 5: you're available. We're gonna bring you back during the season. Yes, coach,
Speaker 5: I would love to be back here. Boy.
Speaker 6: I sit there and got home and I was like,
Speaker 6: I can't believe he got me. What do you say?
Speaker 5: We can laugh about this now because players lounge it's
Speaker 5: a safe place, as my dog Ken Norton used to say,
Speaker 5: DC is coordinating safe place.
Speaker 6: So I can tell y'all that.
Speaker 5: But at that time, when I tell you I was
Speaker 5: so hot for the next two years, I thought about that.
Speaker 5: I just like every time every time. You know, my God,
Speaker 5: my God loves me. Though you know I didn't. I
Speaker 5: didn't have a job there for long. You know, somebody
Speaker 5: else to have it too long after.
Speaker 6: Happened.
Speaker 5: But the way this business goes, I tell you that
Speaker 5: to say that, you really never know how these chips
Speaker 5: can fall. So to see the respect that they like
Speaker 5: I said that was displayed to Elsie.
Speaker 6: Not coming here and they get off, could be like
Speaker 6: thinking about that now, bro oh man, man, man, what
Speaker 6: do you saying? I'm here? Like, there's no such thing
Speaker 6: as a mistake.
Speaker 5: It's only a mistake if you don't learn from And
Speaker 5: when I say learn from it, you better start listening
Speaker 5: to coaches when they say turn your phones off during
Speaker 5: meet and stuff, because if my phone was off, I
Speaker 5: would have got the alert.
Speaker 6: Crazy after it was after a formal player or two,
Speaker 6: I already know where his demeanor is. Probably, like.
Speaker 5: I say now, I kept it so professionally everything I
Speaker 5: told I was so proud. I called Joey bringing up.
Speaker 5: I said, hey, man, I'm mad that I found out
Speaker 5: through the media. He said, hold on, you know you're good.
Speaker 5: You need to talk no, man, because I actually practice
Speaker 5: hard this time, like I'm good. I listened all out
Speaker 5: there on the steel and then he was like, you
Speaker 5: sure you are?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 5: I said no, I got on another team, and I
Speaker 5: thought about it. I said he got he got me.
Speaker 5: You know how you think about it later on you
Speaker 5: wake up and sleep.
Speaker 6: He played me earlier.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Reggie McKinsey the gym.
Speaker 5: He wasn't there that week. He wasn't there that weekend.
Speaker 5: I love my dogar Reggie. Reggie would not let me
Speaker 5: go down like that.
Speaker 6: I know not. He wouldn't have got the free labor
Speaker 6: off of real man fresh out the.
Speaker 5: Shower too, Like, oh man, do I need to put
Speaker 5: on my regular clothes? Or do I need to put
Speaker 5: on my T mood clothes and bring my hot pad me. No,
Speaker 5: just get trusted. Just put on the T shirt and
Speaker 5: shorts and that real. Just want to have to talk
Speaker 5: with you real quick. You know what I call myself
Speaker 5: being smart. I left my shoes and everything. Like I'm
Speaker 5: gonna walk over there barefoot. Boy, I have to walk
Speaker 5: back barefoot like they you know me, like that was
Speaker 5: really gonna stop. Nope, Nope, it's real. Two extra trips.
Speaker 5: Go get my shoes and go get my I pad.
Speaker 6: To turn it back in.
Speaker 4: This is a good therapy session.
Speaker 6: It was. Man, appreciate players take place.
Speaker 4: Players lines man, you wont know.
Speaker 5: I know you always you've been on the media, so
Speaker 5: you get those reports like gonna make it this and that.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it like Clarence hill Man, this is
Speaker 3: about got cut mister fourth and gone.
Speaker 4: No, that was that's family read.
Speaker 3: All that is worse was mister fourth sport the longsport
Speaker 3: and go.
Speaker 6: Wow. He said, this is gonna go viral. This's go's
Speaker 6: go get appreciate you. You're a good guy.
Speaker 7: But Clarence, you know, you know, you know, you don't
Speaker 7: pull no punches Sometimes man, he's gonna he's gonna give
Speaker 7: them to.
Speaker 6: You either.
Speaker 4: Last year, how long you ember tell you're still carrying it?
Speaker 6: What I'm carrying all that? What? And gone?
Speaker 4: Man, my family read.
Speaker 5: Man, you know how, and you gotta once you get
Speaker 5: over it, like your family, like your real family that
Speaker 5: ain't gonna make fun of you. But then like once
Speaker 5: they see you not hurt, they want to break it up.
Speaker 6: Every now.
Speaker 5: I remember when that happened, you'd be like.
Speaker 6: Laughing about it. Gone, that's why, and that's why you bad,
Speaker 6: right dirty?
Speaker 4: Actually it was at the meeting last year, dirty Max, and.
Speaker 3: They brought because it was because Jesse and claims Now
Speaker 3: work in the same spot.
Speaker 4: And then Jesse brought it up.
Speaker 3: Wheah, it's good to be here with class, even though
Speaker 3: you did me dirty going on.
Speaker 4: I started laughing the first time I heard it. I
Speaker 4: never read the head last time laughed. Oh want you laughing.
Speaker 4: It's kind of funny.
Speaker 6: It's dirty work, but it's real fun. It's work, really fun.
Speaker 6: It's good.
Speaker 3: My family read it and all that stuff. So no, Trey,
Speaker 3: I don't go searching for.
Speaker 7: But think about it like you was talking about it.
Speaker 7: Think about dude, like Jimmy Smith who used to play
Speaker 7: for Jacksonville Jaguarsh.
Speaker 4: He was here cover Jimmy, he was here.
Speaker 6: He got cut eleven times.
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen when I was covered eleven times, I covered Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Keenan Allen would get cut three to four times a
Speaker 3: year by Belichick, just be hanging out, bringing back, bringing
Speaker 3: cutting we needed needed building Spider cut keen and cut.
Speaker 3: Keene kept cutting, but eventually Keenan and Jimmy Smith right
Speaker 3: there in Jacksonville ball and putting up.
Speaker 6: Keyshawn not Sean.
Speaker 4: What's his name was Keenan Keenan McCardell.
Speaker 3: That's not card Keenan, Cardiff Cardiff keen good dude, man.
Speaker 6: He's coaching coach.
Speaker 3: When I was in Jacksonville, Trey got the Jacksonville jack
Speaker 3: shirt on it.
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Speaker 3: But you put a little spring on it to rather
Speaker 3: dazzle on.
Speaker 4: See what you do. But now I appreciate not going.
Speaker 6: I'm not going exactly. So you say that you're the weekend.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, it's not like I have tickets and I'm
Speaker 4: just not going.
Speaker 5: I know you're going. But the tickets that you would
Speaker 5: have if you chose to go, you can give.
Speaker 6: Them to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 5: And then like I'm gonna pull up and they're gonna
Speaker 5: say it's gonna say new name on there.
Speaker 6: But when I pull up there and like, ye word,
Speaker 6: I'm here, gotcha. We thought of emmy, we got them.
Speaker 3: I can't do nothing for you, man, brother, I can't
Speaker 3: do nothing for you, man. I'm busy trying to do
Speaker 3: for wow. Terry McLaurin Signday ninety six million dollars.
Speaker 6: The man paid the man.
Speaker 4: They found some money.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: Still he over there like maybe they got taping layout
Speaker 4: on the practice.
Speaker 6: My boy was posted up, bro watch out. He was.
Speaker 5: No, that was that he was. It's kind of bad,
Speaker 5: but no, that was that. We all in the third
Speaker 5: preseason game. You know, most vets aren't paying attention and
Speaker 5: this and that. They're sitting up eating something some flower.
Speaker 6: But you at least yeah, yeah, I mean it's for me.
Speaker 6: What he only waited there for? Was it? Was it
Speaker 6: a minute?
Speaker 8: Was?
Speaker 4: It doesn't doesn't he could he could even a chill
Speaker 4: on the bench.
Speaker 6: Half he could have he could have look it looked.
Speaker 3: Bad and it gets shot having an answer it afterwards everything,
Speaker 3: Thank you shot. He's trying to I didn't really know,
Speaker 3: so you got to get all that. No, that's not neat.
Speaker 3: It's not neat. At the end of the day, Micah
Speaker 3: can have his feelings about what's going on. Should he
Speaker 3: be paid, Yes, all that should have been number yes,
Speaker 3: all that whatever. It's Jones, Jerry Jones is saying that
Speaker 3: we had a deal.
Speaker 6: All that.
Speaker 3: You still can control how you go out there. You
Speaker 3: just represent yourself. And not have your coach look like,
Speaker 3: hey man, this dude he knew he knew on the job.
Speaker 4: And got laid here by then hand out.
Speaker 6: Here and it didn't You're right.
Speaker 5: Perception is everything, And I will just say this to
Speaker 5: be players advocate, because this is the players now. All
Speaker 5: I'm saying is that for somebody that has done everything
Speaker 5: right up until this point, like I get it. I'm
Speaker 5: not about to say you this wasn't me personally, just
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you grace, Like just how we say
Speaker 5: know your personality.
Speaker 6: This is a guy that.
Speaker 5: We gotten to know through the media that's saying that
Speaker 5: that's done the holdings and done everything the right way.
Speaker 5: So to just come out here and just say, hey man,
Speaker 5: you shouldn't have been doing that. Yes, you shouldn't have
Speaker 5: been doing that. Be aware of your surroundings. So yes,
Speaker 5: it's that your fault, it is. But so I'm gonna
Speaker 5: give you a little grace, Like we all know that
Speaker 5: third game, unless you're really playing, unless you saying, hey man,
Speaker 5: we're talking about which rookie is gonna make it, and
Speaker 5: you know, we really know some stuff that's going on
Speaker 5: the end of the line, you're not paying attention.
Speaker 4: Name me a player you've seen laying down on the
Speaker 4: training table like.
Speaker 6: That, I've seen. I've seen a lot.
Speaker 5: They just don't get the pictures taking care because they're
Speaker 5: you're not Michael Parsons. Guess you're not in that position.
Speaker 5: But I've seen it plenty of time. I've seen players like.
Speaker 4: You're feeding, you feed, You're feeding the beast here.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna feed the beast.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just saying he'st Mike, You're beast by
Speaker 4: doing that.
Speaker 5: No, exactly, And that's why I guess that's the only
Speaker 5: part that I would say. I'm a little disappointed as
Speaker 5: far as that, Like, Michael, you know, the eyes are
Speaker 5: always on you. But that's if if this was that
Speaker 5: one moment of where it's like, yo, I'm frustrated, like
Speaker 5: I'm gonna cut you a little bit more.
Speaker 4: We know you're frustrated. We know we get it, you know,
Speaker 4: Dak when we get it.
Speaker 5: So do you think that was that was a calculated
Speaker 5: like malicious intent, like oh, like I want to publicly
Speaker 5: display my frustration.
Speaker 6: Yeah you think you know? Okay, yeah, yeah, standing on
Speaker 6: that thee.
Speaker 3: Ye, I say, because he's frightening mad but it's just
Speaker 3: like the end of the day man, exactly.
Speaker 6: And don't.
Speaker 3: It's funny because I'm the pre game guys, they knew
Speaker 3: he was gonna happen. Oh, I'll tell you, billionaire pays millionaire.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be the headline as it always is. And
Speaker 3: and it's just a matter of does he set the
Speaker 3: record at his position or does he tight that's it.
Speaker 4: We know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: Yes, you don't like the game, but you're in the blender,
Speaker 3: and the owner of the billionaire can go ahead and
Speaker 3: blend you in there, and he'll decide when he wants.
Speaker 3: But when you come out of it, guess what you're
Speaker 3: going to have. Generational Well, I wish Jerry Jones would
Speaker 3: treat me like treat me going out here Fox and
Speaker 3: Friends and Michael Irving's podcast and say whatever you want
Speaker 3: to because I know how it ends. I'm a pen
Speaker 3: in my hand, it gonna be a piece of paper.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be smiling, and that's generational wealth coming my way,
Speaker 3: just like he was for CD, just like he was
Speaker 3: for Dak Tank. Lawrence got his money when he sat
Speaker 3: up there and told us, you know what, Zack Mark
Speaker 3: got a contract, Jack markin stay at home.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be okay.
Speaker 3: Zach Martin got his money, Ezekiel Ellen got his I
Speaker 3: mean Bari Cooper got his money and got his money exactly.
Speaker 4: And so so you tripping, but you young. I get
Speaker 4: him if I was young too.
Speaker 3: But this is where you know, agent B we're gonna
Speaker 3: get paid. They like, what church when church was out here.
Speaker 5: Literally, I don't know what's gonna happens, gonna happen.
Speaker 4: We know what's gonna happen. We know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, So.
Speaker 5: That's why, and I guess that's why if that really
Speaker 5: was the case, is like, yeah, I am upset because
Speaker 5: you've been playing the game so well into this final end.
Speaker 6: Don't give him that rope. Like and with not giving them.
Speaker 5: That rope, I'm also sitting there saying, like, I want
Speaker 5: to have some grace because as soon as he's signed
Speaker 5: this contract, obviously he's going to be happy. Obviously Jerry's
Speaker 5: going to be happy. But those same media folks that
Speaker 5: sit there and say, oh, this is disrespectful. All this
Speaker 5: is that, oh, now you're putting out your you're you're
Speaker 5: putting a narrative out there to leave room for people
Speaker 5: to say, oh, you're selfish and you're not thinking about
Speaker 5: the team, when he's been everything the complete opposite of
Speaker 5: it being there being president. And so that's why I
Speaker 5: guess I'm trying to say, I want to give him
Speaker 5: a little bit of grace everything he's done beforehand, and.
Speaker 3: Michael Parson is in a position that a whole lot
Speaker 3: of other people.
Speaker 4: Are not, especially a defensive play. You can make money.
Speaker 5: Off the field, crazy okay, which he is already, right, but.
Speaker 3: But you know what I also wanted an all time
Speaker 3: I want all of the people to hey man, no
Speaker 3: matter what, he gonna keep it like Jack Preson, I'm
Speaker 3: gona keep it a class. I'm going that that stuff
Speaker 3: you want to make sure you keep because I mean,
Speaker 3: I tell you all time, man, Drew Person caught pass
Speaker 3: in ninety eight three. He's still making money if being
Speaker 3: a cowboy. You know, so right, it's right. You can
Speaker 3: do this for a long time, as you've witnessed with
Speaker 3: your father. Hey Man, just you're frustrated, but yeah, but
Speaker 3: just chill man. There's so play the longer game.
Speaker 5: And that's where your agent's come in to play, because
Speaker 5: I'm telling you like I can't tell you how many times,
Speaker 5: Like I told you that was the story with the
Speaker 5: del Rio situation earlier, Like I had a guy like
Speaker 5: Jobie bringing in my ear saying, hey man, this is
Speaker 5: your narrative.
Speaker 6: Keep this going, play this long game.
Speaker 5: He's gotten a lot of people play, so like your
Speaker 5: agent plays a lot more into that, not just the
Speaker 5: negotiations side of it, like let me be the bad guy,
Speaker 5: let me do all this to where they say do that.
Speaker 6: So yes, I do understand what that.
Speaker 5: But like I said, the player and me will be
Speaker 5: remiss if I didn't sit here and say, let's give
Speaker 5: this brother some grace for everything else that he's done
Speaker 5: and being the great leader that he has been, Like
Speaker 5: don't let a temporary lapse in judgment be a defining moment,
Speaker 5: Like we're turning this into a moment. And I because
Speaker 5: I've seen and like I said, I'm triggered because I
Speaker 5: seen messages on Twitter and Instagram, like when people are
Speaker 5: posting this time about oh, how selfish he is, and
Speaker 5: it's like these are the same posts that were just.
Speaker 4: Saying you read Yeah, I mean, I'm.
Speaker 6: Just I don't care what I'm saying is this agent
Speaker 6: even getting the opportunity to be the bad guy?
Speaker 7: From what I keep hearing, there ain't no communication between
Speaker 7: the Joneses and the agent, so the agent ain't getting
Speaker 7: a chance to like actually fulfill his role. You know
Speaker 7: what's going on. And Satan Todd friends went through the
Speaker 7: same thing. But you know, guess what, at some point
Speaker 7: you're still getting. At some point in time, they're gonna
Speaker 7: call because there's this thing.
Speaker 4: Called the season coming out. They needed.
Speaker 6: Ten days, it's about to be the We're going At.
Speaker 4: Some point in time, it's gonna call.
Speaker 3: And you know what they do with the way they operate,
Speaker 3: they start calling, They crunching, then get the deal done.
Speaker 6: So man, just be on cruise control of these next
Speaker 6: few days.
Speaker 5: All you need to do is work out and be like, man,
Speaker 5: I can't wait, I can't wait to sign.
Speaker 4: That work on that bad back he got door set.
Speaker 4: Well that's what he's saying.
Speaker 6: Why you gotta end on the negative note? Come on
Speaker 6: close this side.
Speaker 4: Please thanks for showing up. Poll time trade.
Speaker 6: I appreciation that great church.
Speaker 4: Take care suck.
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