Speaker 1: Have either of you ever had a day where you
Speaker 1: wake up and everything in your house breaks at the
Speaker 1: same time.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, this has been my year. All
Speaker 2: everything's breaking down in my house right now. It's like, yes,
Speaker 2: I swear, it's like we it's I've lived in it
Speaker 2: eleven years, and I feel like it's right over like
Speaker 2: the ten year mark your warranties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's what the same thing just
Speaker 1: happened to me yesterday. It was we had every type
Speaker 1: of water heater in the house, from the pool heater
Speaker 1: to the entire water system. Everything had to be replace
Speaker 1: in one day.
Speaker 2: One day yep, Mike garage door broke down and like
Speaker 2: so expensive to fix that. And then now my door
Speaker 2: I just found out a package didn't get delivered that
Speaker 2: we're waiting on because of our doorbells not working like
Speaker 2: our eight doorbell.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, it's so yes yesterday was
Speaker 1: a twelve thousand dollars day.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's crazy. Do you have a home
Speaker 3: warranty plan?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, I mean again, And so the like the heat
Speaker 1: the water heater guy came out and he's like, you
Speaker 1: need a new water heater because we have a tankless one,
Speaker 1: And I said, but it's tankless and we have the
Speaker 1: twenty year warranties like you do, except no, so because
Speaker 1: apparently at the time I had it put in, I
Speaker 1: had them keep a certain pump that I wanted because
Speaker 1: he was too expensive to add a new pump, and
Speaker 1: the pump was working at the time, and so he's like,
Speaker 1: you have like fifty thousand hours on the same which
Speaker 1: is supposed to be like over a thirty year span,
Speaker 1: and it's been eight. So this thing just ran for
Speaker 1: eight years straight. I guess because of this pump. It
Speaker 1: never stopped running. So we just woke up and just
Speaker 1: didn't have any water, like, had no hot water, and
Speaker 1: then everything was flooding down by the pool. It was
Speaker 1: it was comical how everything was breaking at the same time.
Speaker 1: And so I was just wondering if you'd ever had
Speaker 1: those days where you just everything by.
Speaker 2: This entire and I thought it was mostly a lot
Speaker 2: of it is also because of rain, like all the
Speaker 2: leaks and cracks. Yes, because it you know, never rains
Speaker 2: in La until it really really rains, and it's been
Speaker 2: raining so much the whole holiday season.
Speaker 1: It was just like and then you know the problem
Speaker 1: because we have this in our house. We've had the
Speaker 1: same leak that we've now fixed thirty five times. Is
Speaker 1: you fix it quote unquote, and then you have to
Speaker 1: wait another four or five months for it to rain again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to see if it works, to see if it worked.
Speaker 1: So it's like you don't even know we were Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we had to have the wall fixed while they
Speaker 1: were putting in the pool thing.
Speaker 4: While it was like, mister mom, there was thirty seven
Speaker 4: way yesterday.
Speaker 2: Right when this hall you just like, it's just throw
Speaker 2: in the trash and go go get another house.
Speaker 1: Okay, because I've been here twenty this is going to
Speaker 1: be my twenty sixth year in this house.
Speaker 3: Wow, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Everything is it's we've had to replace everything so many
Speaker 1: many times that it's just to go, Okay, now, I
Speaker 1: guess this needs to be new.
Speaker 2: I have a very old house. My house was built
Speaker 2: in nineteen oh five. Oh wow, yeah, I just want
Speaker 2: the idea of like new things in a house sounds lovely.
Speaker 2: I've always had old places. You have always had old Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's my canyon house was nineteen twenties. Yeah, so have
Speaker 2: you had it?
Speaker 1: No, I know you don't believe in them. But if
Speaker 1: anybody else where you were with believed, did anybody that
Speaker 1: does believe in them think that anybody.
Speaker 4: In your house? What of your houses were haunted?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: No, but I have great creepy pictures, like I have
Speaker 2: photos of the house in nineteen oh five with like
Speaker 2: a baby on the porch.
Speaker 4: Interior that was the house owner at the time in
Speaker 4: nineteen oh five, was a little baby.
Speaker 2: Little baby. No, we have like these really crazy photos
Speaker 2: and they definitely look like old school haunted house photos.
Speaker 2: It's so cool.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 6: My house was originally built in I think the fifties,
Speaker 6: and then it had been gutted and redone before we
Speaker 6: moved into it, so we were the first people to
Speaker 6: live in it once it had been gutted. And now
Speaker 6: we're about ready to do another renovation. We just approved plans.
Speaker 6: When do you start, Well, it's still with the city,
Speaker 6: so the plans need to be like we've approved, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 6: so who knows how long the city is going to take.
Speaker 6: But also we're not in like any giant rush, right,
Speaker 6: so we're.
Speaker 4: Are you going to stay in the house while you renovate?
Speaker 6: Yes, So we're only you know, when you walk in
Speaker 6: the front door of our house, all that stuff to
Speaker 6: the right, the bathroom and the three bedrooms down there,
Speaker 6: that whole side of the house is just getting smashed
Speaker 6: and taken away, and so they're just going to build
Speaker 6: a wall when you walk like a wall. When you
Speaker 6: walk in the front door, everything to the right of
Speaker 6: the front door is just there's just going to be
Speaker 6: a wall.
Speaker 3: And we're not going to use any of that.
Speaker 6: So the kids' bedrooms, we're taking out their beds and
Speaker 6: we're this office that I do the podcast in is
Speaker 6: gonna We're going to remove the couch, remove the desk,
Speaker 6: remove the book cases that have Jensen's thousands of DVDs
Speaker 6: on them, and they're going to share a room. Their
Speaker 6: beds are going to go side by side in this room.
Speaker 6: They're going to share this room, and we're going to
Speaker 6: live in the house.
Speaker 3: Well, we do.
Speaker 1: But then where all the bedrooms are gone, where the
Speaker 1: wall is, that's going to be a whole new wing.
Speaker 6: Right, yes, then we're built there where we're building all
Speaker 6: the new stuff.
Speaker 5: And that's where all the DVDs go.
Speaker 4: In the way, the DVD wing. I have one myself
Speaker 4: DVD library.
Speaker 6: Yes, no, But what I do want to tell you
Speaker 6: guys that I want to see if you would have
Speaker 6: thought this was cool when you were kids. The boys
Speaker 6: are getting their moving bedrooms and they are getting lofts
Speaker 6: above their bedrooms, and the lofts will connect.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: That's really cool.
Speaker 1: Sick.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so like I'm so, and they haven't. They don't
Speaker 6: really even really quite know what a loft is. I'm
Speaker 6: just like, you know, it's going to be like a
Speaker 6: mini room above your room, and you guys will be
Speaker 6: able to have access to each other up there.
Speaker 2: Really cool ideas.
Speaker 3: Isn't that cool?
Speaker 4: Because you remember you talked about doing something.
Speaker 1: You were like, I don't know if I should have
Speaker 1: like a secret passage through a bookcase or like you
Speaker 1: were thinking of something.
Speaker 4: So the connecting loft good idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think that's I think that's the best
Speaker 3: way to do it.
Speaker 4: Keeping the Batman bets, keeping the Batman bets if.
Speaker 3: They want them.
Speaker 6: The Batman bets are definitely going to be in existence
Speaker 6: while we do the renovation.
Speaker 4: But they don't want them. I'm your first call, of.
Speaker 6: Course, because you definitely whenever you redo your guest house.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it needs a batman.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1: There, that'll be next this year, later this year and
Speaker 1: next year all that the whole backyard's being ripped out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I guess the reason I brought up the lof situation,
Speaker 6: and I specifically said, did either of you share a
Speaker 6: room growing up with your siblings?
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was it like, is it some of your
Speaker 3: favorite memories?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I love sharing a room. And I was
Speaker 2: upset when Shiloh moved out because we took over the
Speaker 2: third floor. It would used to just be an attic space,
Speaker 2: and we discovered it and we were like, can we
Speaker 2: make this our bedroom? We converted into our bedroom, and
Speaker 2: then like two years later, when he was, you know,
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen, Chilo was like, oh, out of here. I'm
Speaker 2: good in my own room. And I remember being very sad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was like others, and then I was stoked.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I think by the time you're a teenager, you want
Speaker 2: your own room. Yeah. When I was younger, I loved
Speaker 2: I loved sharing it with my brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean it was fine, It was fine,
Speaker 1: but having your own room.
Speaker 4: Is just you just want your own space.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Greg and I shared a room and we
Speaker 1: had bunk beds too, and so he was on the
Speaker 1: top and I was on the bottom. And yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's five years older than me, so he didn't want
Speaker 1: to be in there at all. And so when we
Speaker 1: moved to the new house in Avon, then it was
Speaker 1: we each got our own room, and then Greg moved
Speaker 1: to the basement and I moved into Greg's room. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was shuffling around. But god, no, those are not good,
Speaker 1: good thought, good memories.
Speaker 4: No, you want to know, you want to you don't
Speaker 4: want to live. I wanted I wanted my own, my
Speaker 4: own space.
Speaker 6: Of course, I wanted my own think the grass is
Speaker 6: always greener because like, of course, you know, yeah, it's
Speaker 6: just one of those situations. But I'm hoping the kids,
Speaker 6: I'm hoping the loft is the perfect amount of like
Speaker 6: shared space.
Speaker 3: Shared space.
Speaker 4: That's cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's perfect, that's what i.
Speaker 4: Shared space is cool. And then they can go to
Speaker 4: their own rooms. That's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm looking I'm looking forward to it. Welcome
Speaker 3: to Pod meets World. I'm Daniel Fischl, I'm right or Strong,
Speaker 3: and I'm wil Fredell.
Speaker 6: Week by week, inch by inch, we creep closer and
Speaker 6: closer to the season seven and series finale, and now
Speaker 6: with a few recaps under our collective belt, we assumed
Speaker 6: that some of you might have some questions.
Speaker 3: Hell, we have some questions.
Speaker 6: We know you all think they just watched the show
Speaker 6: they were in thirty years ago, sit in front of
Speaker 6: a mic, say whatever comes to mind.
Speaker 3: It's easy, well.
Speaker 6: Being honest, you were right, But for season seven it's
Speaker 6: much more complicated. Will has talked about his reluctance to
Speaker 6: dive deeper into what was the hardest time of his life.
Speaker 6: I know I'm staring down the barrel of an episode
Speaker 6: where I'm just outright called fat and writer, well, writer
Speaker 6: is writering, and so we wanted to open it up
Speaker 6: to you guys, see if you had anything on your
Speaker 6: minds as we tackle the heavier stuff. But first, writer
Speaker 6: and Will, how do you feel thus far about the
Speaker 6: dreaded season seven?
Speaker 2: It feels just all over the place.
Speaker 3: Quite a roller coaster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just like I feel like you know, and
Speaker 2: I think we'll set it best from one of our
Speaker 2: recent recaps, like we're just like chasing ratings, like and
Speaker 2: I think they didn't know what to do. They were
Speaker 2: like scared that we weren't going to get a full season,
Speaker 2: and so interestingly, like, I think the better move would
Speaker 2: have been to just commit to the characters and commit
Speaker 2: to like make it the most boy meets world you can,
Speaker 2: And instead it seems like our producers were like, let's
Speaker 2: let's try everything, let's try anything to keep the ratings,
Speaker 2: you know, like we'll make it a ridiculous romp, we'll
Speaker 2: make it a thing, we'll do a wedding, and it's
Speaker 2: just our characters have been thrown out the window.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I think it's some very funny bits. Nobody's the character
Speaker 1: that they were. Yeah, and the stories don't make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense, but a lot of the actual bits
Speaker 1: I'm finding very funny.
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of hard laughs, yeah, yep. Also a
Speaker 6: lot of maybe the most ever cringe moments. I would
Speaker 6: actually say, I think in a handful of season seven episodes,
Speaker 6: I have found more moments that I would like to
Speaker 6: say didn't age well, but I can't believe they were ever. Okay, agreed,
Speaker 6: Then in the collective first six seasons of the show.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Think is that a consequence of us being grown ups? Now?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, It's like the show aged
Speaker 2: up and I think there was a conscious thing like
Speaker 2: we can make.
Speaker 3: Sex, we joke, Yeah, we can take risks.
Speaker 2: Yeah we could take risks because they're in college. And
Speaker 2: I just think that wasn't our writer's strengths. I think
Speaker 2: they were better at like a high school, you know,
Speaker 2: and like it just seems like our jam was when
Speaker 2: we were like because all the apartment dynamics don't really
Speaker 2: like you know, even last season with like the you know,
Speaker 2: Maitland storyline with you guys, it just doesn't feel like
Speaker 2: our show to me.
Speaker 4: It's not a way, it's a totally different thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder how much we've been desensitized to the
Speaker 1: to the show Frog in the pot where if we
Speaker 1: literally finished a season seven episode and then went back
Speaker 1: and watched the season one episode, if it was we'd
Speaker 1: just be.
Speaker 4: Like, what the hell is happening right now?
Speaker 2: Well, are we even really dealing with college stuff? That
Speaker 2: often we're not even classrooms, We're not like, we're not
Speaker 2: engaging other college kids. Like there's no like, oh, I
Speaker 2: guess there was a sports episode. There was like the
Speaker 2: mascot and stuff. I don't know, it just doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like it's losing. The high school is a real challenge
Speaker 2: for our show. It's a real challenge storytelling wise because
Speaker 2: the high school and and it's losing two things. You
Speaker 2: lose the house and the high school, and those are
Speaker 2: like grounding forces of our show. Season six and season
Speaker 2: seven really are kind of just a little it's tough.
Speaker 1: Seven, especially seven, especially this one, is just where nobody's
Speaker 1: nobody's who they were, and that's it's fine. I mean again,
Speaker 1: I look at it like we're just trying to make
Speaker 1: sure they laugh. So I'm acting for you guys, and
Speaker 1: you're acting for us, and that's and that's fine, but
Speaker 1: it's a man, it's just and I have so many
Speaker 1: good memories.
Speaker 2: Of us backstage, me too, but I don't remember the
Speaker 2: scenes themselves. Are the lines. So like I clearly was
Speaker 2: just coming to work to hang out with you guys
Speaker 2: a laugh, and like I definitely like I just didn't
Speaker 2: care about the show. I cared about like being with
Speaker 2: you and I was having fun, I think, but I
Speaker 2: didn't like the show or I didn't care about that part,
Speaker 2: you know, the actual creative investment, which is sad to
Speaker 2: me because I think, you know, as much as I
Speaker 2: talk about like my issues with boy, me's world and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Like when I watching like seasons four and five, even
Speaker 2: I do remember being like I liked the acting challenges,
Speaker 2: I liked the like I cared about Sean as a character. Yeah,
Speaker 2: even when I was like a little like eh, but
Speaker 2: like I think about the Cult episode, like I was committed,
Speaker 2: you know, like yeah, and and I don't. I'm not
Speaker 2: committed season seven, Like I clearly was just like I
Speaker 2: am so much more interesting in whatever is happening in
Speaker 2: my personal life and in my college life and like
Speaker 2: my studies, and like I just didn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I was also like discovering movies a lot at
Speaker 2: this period in my life, Like this is when we
Speaker 2: were buying laser discs all the time will end like video.
Speaker 2: I just remember this season running around getting film lists
Speaker 2: from all the crew. Like I remember being like, tell
Speaker 2: me your favorite movies, what do I need to buy?
Speaker 2: And I would buy movies without ever having seen them
Speaker 2: because enough people would say you need to watch this,
Speaker 2: you need to watch that, and you'll have them. I
Speaker 2: still the laser discs, yeah, but I also bought a
Speaker 2: lot of VH because there's a lot of stuff that
Speaker 2: wasn't available on laser disc that people would recommend it,
Speaker 2: like a lot of the nineties independent film stuff, like
Speaker 2: you know, Richard link Later and Henry fool and like
Speaker 2: there's just a lot of like that nineties independent you
Speaker 2: can get on vhs and I don't have any of
Speaker 2: those anymore. I do have the laser discs.
Speaker 4: Do you have a working laser DISCP player?
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. I'm I'm assuming it's working. It's at
Speaker 2: my parents' house. Yeah, but I kind of want it.
Speaker 2: I kind of want it back, like.
Speaker 1: I still have mine.
Speaker 5: It's great.
Speaker 2: Do you use it?
Speaker 1: Well, no, it's not even not even hooked up. I
Speaker 1: just know that I have it, and it's like, of course.
Speaker 2: See if I remember, the image is not great, but
Speaker 2: the sound is better than that.
Speaker 4: That's what it was.
Speaker 1: And there was also at the time with laser discs,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of behind the scenes stuff that
Speaker 1: you couldn't get anywhere else. That's all the vhs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had all that stuff on the.
Speaker 2: Lat Like that's how I learned how to make films,
Speaker 2: Like that's how you know, even though we were in
Speaker 2: the industry, I wasn't on many film sets, so I
Speaker 2: learned how to direct. Was listening to director commentary and
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, let's bring in Jensen so we can get
Speaker 6: into these cues, so we can supply the a's.
Speaker 5: I think we slept in the room at your parents'
Speaker 5: house that had the laser disc machine in it for
Speaker 5: the record. Yeah cool, it was like, I do they
Speaker 5: watch laser discs? All right, let's get into questions. The
Speaker 5: first one is from ed from Augusta. Now that you
Speaker 5: fully recapped six seasons, can you definitively say when you
Speaker 5: think you peaked in appearance and peaked as an actor?
Speaker 6: I am pretty sure The answer for that for me
Speaker 6: is season four is that where I cut my hair. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I think that whole season, That whole season from the
Speaker 6: hair cutting episode on is peak appearance and possibly peak performance.
Speaker 1: My peak appearance was actually not on Boy Me to World.
Speaker 1: My peak appearance is when I did an episode of
Speaker 1: Zoe Duncan, Jack and Jane. It's I think the best
Speaker 1: I've ever looked on camera.
Speaker 4: That was my peak appearance.
Speaker 1: They had me dressed up like Jared Leto from my
Speaker 1: so called life at the time, and I had the
Speaker 1: long hair and it was working. That was my peak appearance,
Speaker 1: peak acting. Still going baby still getting there. We haven't
Speaker 1: we haven't hit Nirvana yet, my friends. No, it depends
Speaker 1: on what Eric you like. I mean, there's some peer
Speaker 1: some people that really love seasons you know, season seven
Speaker 1: Eric who's big and nuts and crazy, and there's some
Speaker 1: people that preferred the more subdued season two three kind
Speaker 1: of Eric.
Speaker 4: So I was just different every season.
Speaker 2: I had no idea appearance wise, I just you know,
Speaker 2: it's so awkward, like I don't know, but but acting was.
Speaker 2: Season four I think was probably pretty great, you know,
Speaker 2: like I feel like I was I still cared. We
Speaker 2: had so many good episodes. Oh, season five was good too.
Speaker 4: Season five was good, But I feel.
Speaker 2: Like season four Tony was still around, right, So I
Speaker 2: would have had some more of the like because I
Speaker 2: really I really loved the Turner Sean dynamic and like
Speaker 2: and the comedic Turner Sean like when when we're like
Speaker 2: doing like guy advice stuff, those conversations were really fun
Speaker 2: and and I, you know, as much as like dramatic
Speaker 2: Sean took over, I feel like season four I was
Speaker 2: still balanced at getting some just silly, fun comedy stuff
Speaker 2: to do. And I you know, looking back now, I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, it was it was. I wasn't bad at that, Like,
Speaker 2: that wasn't good. There was a good version of acting
Speaker 2: that I totally just took for granted. Yeah, appearance wise,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Man, Like, I definitely don't like the
Speaker 2: way I look at season seven. That's the way I'm dressed.
Speaker 2: I feel awkward, and like seasons one and two, I'm
Speaker 2: clearly just a you know kid.
Speaker 6: I think, writer, you look real. I actually love the
Speaker 6: way you look at season seven.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't necessarily.
Speaker 6: I haven't real necessarily paid attention to whether or not
Speaker 6: I love your clothes.
Speaker 3: Are you wearing a lot of bowling shirts in season seven?
Speaker 2: You know what it is? It's like, yeah, I start
Speaker 2: wearing button downs again, but they're not really bowling shirts.
Speaker 2: But they're just like awkwardly fitting. And and the sleeves,
Speaker 2: if they're short sleeves, they're like too long. There's like
Speaker 2: they're like the wrong length, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: It's like they don't it's like you either got to
Speaker 2: go short or slightly longer. It's like they're in this
Speaker 2: weird in between. So they kind of like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I've just been noticing, like what am I wearing. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's obviously I just I never noticed
Speaker 2: my warder or thought about it back then, so I
Speaker 2: just wore what they told me. But I feel like
Speaker 2: there was a conscious choice for some reason in season seven,
Speaker 2: maybe to just make me look more grown up or something.
Speaker 4: If we tried to have Julia Yang on the show, no.
Speaker 3: No, because she was still wardrobe for the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, first six and seven, right or yeah?
Speaker 4: Three?
Speaker 5: Maybe?
Speaker 3: Okay, so.
Speaker 5: Curious.
Speaker 1: She was curious because I was curious what you and
Speaker 1: I were talking about. Daniellef she ever got a note
Speaker 1: from somewhere saying, hey, more tense for Will.
Speaker 2: I would love to talk to Julie again. Yeah, that'd
Speaker 2: be great to find her.
Speaker 3: I'll look to see if I can find her on Facebook.
Speaker 5: Okay, moving on. Our next one is from Dante S
Speaker 5: in Washington, d C. Did the three of you have
Speaker 5: any established plans personally or professionally for when Boy Meets
Speaker 5: World ended? So this would include obviously personal stuf, but
Speaker 5: also movie or TV show offers that were on the table.
Speaker 3: Good question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was under contracts. I had already
Speaker 1: signed another contract with Disney, so I was going to
Speaker 1: be rolling right into another show. I mean, I didn't
Speaker 1: get much time off, and I went right into I
Speaker 1: think Go Fish right after it was in two thousand.
Speaker 2: Well, you had a holding deal, right, That's what I
Speaker 2: had a holding deal.
Speaker 1: But I also was already being sent scripts for kind
Speaker 1: of what you Want to do? And then I was
Speaker 1: when I found out because one of my favorite shows,
Speaker 1: and I think one of the most underrated shows of
Speaker 1: the nineties was News Radio, and that whole crew and
Speaker 1: a lot of the writing staff went off to do
Speaker 1: with Andy Dick a show called Go Fish, which started
Speaker 1: Kieran Culkin and the only thing that was giving me pauses.
Speaker 4: They wanted me to be the older brother again. But
Speaker 4: then it.
Speaker 1: Was film and it was was it single camera? It
Speaker 1: was single camera film, and it had already been picked
Speaker 1: up for I think thirteen because I don't know something
Speaker 1: and I loved the cast and I loved loved the crew.
Speaker 4: So do you remember you?
Speaker 2: And I screened. We networked together, not against each other,
Speaker 2: but together for a show from the There was a
Speaker 2: team of writers that I'm blanking on their names. One
Speaker 2: of them is now like the Guy Ran Deep and
Speaker 2: Silicon Valley, Alex what's his last Anyway, there was a
Speaker 2: team of it. It was a duo and then actually
Speaker 2: at one point they became a trio of writers and
Speaker 2: they had created a college show.
Speaker 4: Do you remember this, Oh, like it was like dorm
Speaker 4: something something.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it had a name or
Speaker 2: it's just like, but you and I both like went
Speaker 2: to network test for it and like I didn't get it,
Speaker 2: and I think they offered it to you. But then
Speaker 2: I think go Fish came along because you know, but yeah,
Speaker 2: it was interesting. We were both up. Like I had
Speaker 2: this moment where I was planning on going to college.
Speaker 2: I applied to schools in New York got into Columbia
Speaker 2: and I was like, well that's where I'm going. So
Speaker 2: I was planning on doing that. But then and we
Speaker 2: had a whole I had a holding deal too. I
Speaker 2: think ABC got all of us a holding deal to
Speaker 2: basically make sure we didn't go on to another network
Speaker 2: and like do another show.
Speaker 4: See I didn't have ABC, I had Disney because I
Speaker 4: went over to NBC.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Yeah, I had a deal. I mean I
Speaker 2: just remember they paid, which means that they had the
Speaker 2: I would go into second position if I went in
Speaker 2: for another network show and so and then I remember
Speaker 2: sitting like having lunch with my agent and my manager
Speaker 2: and talking to them and they're like, well, well, so
Speaker 2: what's happening. And I was like, well, I'm going to
Speaker 2: school in the fall, and they're like, so, you could
Speaker 2: be auditioning right now. And this was like in the spring,
Speaker 2: right before Boyby's World ended, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: guess so, and then boom they started sending me out
Speaker 2: and sure enough I ended up testing for a couple
Speaker 2: of different shows, including that college one with you. Yeah, but yeah, no,
Speaker 2: and then I went to Spain for the summer.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I knew I was going to go to Spain, make
Speaker 2: a movie Buck Naked Arson, and then go to move
Speaker 2: to New York and go to college. So I had
Speaker 2: all those things lined up.
Speaker 6: You, Danielle, I have no idea. I think I have
Speaker 6: absolutely no clue. I don't think I had any plans.
Speaker 2: You also had a holding deal though, right, no, really
Speaker 2: really got a holding dealer.
Speaker 3: Maybe I did remember.
Speaker 1: You were you were pretty checked out by the end
Speaker 1: of season seven, so checked out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so checked out.
Speaker 2: You were already living in Manhattan Beach like you'd already
Speaker 2: moved there during season seven.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I moved there five days after my eighteenth birthday,
Speaker 6: so I had already been living there, like I had
Speaker 6: moved there in May of ninety nine.
Speaker 4: With somebody else named Danielle, with another Danielle.
Speaker 3: We had the Daniell's.
Speaker 6: We called ourselves the double D's. And yeah, so I
Speaker 6: was living in Manhattan Beach, which I loved, although the
Speaker 6: drive was awful, So I was just excited for the
Speaker 6: season to be over and then was like not have
Speaker 6: to make that drive anymore.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think I thought I.
Speaker 6: Was going to audition, but also like as usual, when
Speaker 6: the season ended, I would just be like, don't want
Speaker 6: to work, don't want to think about work, and yeah,
Speaker 6: I probably just I only lived in Manhattan Beach for
Speaker 6: a few more months, and then I ended up buying
Speaker 6: to My parents had really been pressuring me to buy something,
Speaker 6: buy something, buy something, but I didn't buy anything right away.
Speaker 6: Actually I didn't buy my first condo until like two
Speaker 6: thousand and two or two thousand and three. I just
Speaker 6: kept moving around, moved out of Manhattan Beach. I moved
Speaker 6: to Beverly Hills. I was living in a townhouse in
Speaker 6: Beverly Hills for a while. Then I moved to like
Speaker 6: Miracle Mile area.
Speaker 3: Then I moved to actually, I take it back, I
Speaker 3: moved to Sherman Oaks. And then So were.
Speaker 2: You thinking about acting at all? Or were you just
Speaker 2: like I just want to live my life as a
Speaker 2: like eighteen year old.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think I was auditioned.
Speaker 6: I mean, I know what I remember for sure is
Speaker 6: that I was offered a bunch of stuff when Boy
Speaker 6: Meets World ended, and it was.
Speaker 2: All garbage, awful.
Speaker 6: I mean, and not just.
Speaker 2: Underwear. Am Yeah, that was huge. Right then there was
Speaker 2: like the teen because there had been all those teen movies,
Speaker 2: and then they just transitioned into like, you know, sexy teen.
Speaker 6: Movies, have sexy teen movies, and also the very stereotypical
Speaker 6: you've seen this girl as a teenager her entire life. Wait,
Speaker 6: you're gonna want to see her in her underwear now,
Speaker 6: like just the the wanting to break the mold of
Speaker 6: any sort of pure innocence good girl, now, you know.
Speaker 6: And I remember just seeing all of that and being.
Speaker 3: Like no, no, no, no, no for you.
Speaker 2: I mean, like because it could have been so easy
Speaker 2: to just be like I'll just keep taking the attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah it takes, you know, and you were instead were like, no,
Speaker 2: like I don't like this.
Speaker 3: But yeah it wasn't.
Speaker 6: I mean, I wish I could take that credit and
Speaker 6: be like, no, I don't like this, but I I
Speaker 6: was interested and secure. I was like I had just
Speaker 6: been told I was fat for a year and and
Speaker 6: been made to feel bad about myself truly physically, and
Speaker 6: so it more like I'm not putting myself in that position,
Speaker 6: like I'm just I'm there's no way, there's no I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 6: And I wish it was because you know, I was
Speaker 6: thinking about it from the standpoint of is this who
Speaker 6: I am? It was more like this is all I'm
Speaker 6: being offered, and I'm not comfortable with it. But a
Speaker 6: large part of that I'm not comfortable with it. If
Speaker 6: I had been like, you know, I don't know, if
Speaker 6: I had felt good about my body, maybe I would
Speaker 6: have been like, well, this is what you do.
Speaker 3: They're popular, this is what this is. And also, as.
Speaker 6: A late teen, early twenties year old girl, you are
Speaker 6: just starting to kind of I'm a woman, now, what
Speaker 6: is womanhood? What is my sexuality? Like you're just trying.
Speaker 6: You are just coming into that. So I who knows
Speaker 6: what I would have decided had I not just felt insecure,
Speaker 6: But I there was no chance I was going to
Speaker 6: put myself in a position to be made to feel
Speaker 6: the same way I did the last season A boy,
Speaker 6: that's world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your life takes a totally different turn when fear
Speaker 1: dicked hates what you do. Yeah, and that's how it was.
Speaker 1: I was the same way where it's just it's just
Speaker 1: a different way to live when fear is dictating your
Speaker 1: almost every move.
Speaker 6: It also completely for me, was not motivating like you'd think, oh, well,
Speaker 6: if you felt that way, why didn't it just get
Speaker 6: you into the gym? Why didn't it get you? It
Speaker 6: actually had the opposite effect. It was like I ate worse,
Speaker 6: I didn't work out, I didn't take care of myself
Speaker 6: because it was just like you know, I guess it's
Speaker 6: I mean, looking back, it was probably a depress I
Speaker 6: mean there was probably some depression there. I didn't feel
Speaker 6: like a depressed person, but I was a person who
Speaker 6: had a very like, well, who cares attitude throughout that
Speaker 6: whole last season.
Speaker 3: Who care everything was? Who cares? Everything was just kind
Speaker 3: of like and I.
Speaker 2: Remember you having that attitude.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Like.
Speaker 2: You know, I think by the end of season seven,
Speaker 2: like I was like, get away from dignity. I just
Speaker 2: did not want to be around you, which is so
Speaker 2: sad for me to think about now because of how
Speaker 2: close we are now, But I think that, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we didn't reconnect until probably like two thousand and two
Speaker 2: three ish, Yeah, you know, because I think when when
Speaker 2: Boy ended, I was.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I was not fun to be around.
Speaker 6: And I you know, it was like, in hindsight, when
Speaker 6: I think about that person and the way I felt,
Speaker 6: that's that's not That's not the way I had been
Speaker 6: up until that point, and it's not the person I've
Speaker 6: been after that. But there was so there was really
Speaker 6: definitely a cumulation of things that happened throughout the six
Speaker 6: seasons of Boy Meets World that culminated really in that
Speaker 6: final season that led to a just dystopian Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's wasn't it crazy?
Speaker 6: Though?
Speaker 2: Didn't we feel like we were so grown up? Like
Speaker 2: we were done growing? Like we were we were I
Speaker 2: was like a fool on adult and I look back
Speaker 2: now and I'm like, you were a child. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: it's really not until like twenty five, twenty six, and
Speaker 2: you start to figure out anything that you actually might
Speaker 2: want to do for the rest of your life. I
Speaker 2: was thirties when I wha, you started to feel like
Speaker 2: A feels what do I want my day to day
Speaker 2: life to be like? And what do I care about?
Speaker 2: What's important to me? You don't want to surround myself with.
Speaker 2: But when you're like in our position at twenty when
Speaker 2: boy Me's World ended, I thought like I was so
Speaker 2: grown up, Like I was already like behind, I'm.
Speaker 3: Talking about this kid's show, She's y Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And it is with weight gain too.
Speaker 1: It's like you you you eat because it makes you
Speaker 1: feel something, and then you look at yourself and you
Speaker 1: look like and then you feel something again, and it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's a horrible cycle.
Speaker 4: It really is. Yeah.
Speaker 6: And I also at that time, you know, I didn't
Speaker 6: drink at all through high school. I didn't I didn't
Speaker 6: drink alcohol. And then I moved out of my parents'
Speaker 6: house and I did start drinking the same way a
Speaker 6: lot of people do when they go to college.
Speaker 3: Sure, and.
Speaker 6: I realize also looking back, with my relationship with alcohol,
Speaker 6: it was the only thing that let me shut my
Speaker 6: mind off. It was the only thing that stopped me
Speaker 6: from overthinking. It was the only thing.
Speaker 3: It was like an absolute too for me.
Speaker 6: That was like, oh, I can shut the noise of
Speaker 6: my head off if I consume alcohol, which alcohol also
Speaker 6: is very high in calories and like is not good
Speaker 6: for you in a million different ways. So I look
Speaker 6: back on that time and it's like, it's actually sad.
Speaker 6: It's like a really sad you know, maybe next ten
Speaker 6: years of my life from me too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my twenties were not a happy time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was definitely unhappy. But I wouldn't say
Speaker 2: it lasted ten years.
Speaker 3: Think I would say like eighteen.
Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't necessarily I would say from like
Speaker 6: eighteen to twenty eight, because then I think, and maybe
Speaker 6: not even quite that long, because I was around twenty
Speaker 6: seven when I started hosting The Dish and I decided
Speaker 6: to go to college. But really from like we're talking
Speaker 6: eighteen to twenty seven, where I was just like felt
Speaker 6: like I was totally at the mercy of other people
Speaker 6: who did or did not want to hire me. I
Speaker 6: had to say no to the things I was being offered,
Speaker 6: the things I would have been willing to do. No
Speaker 6: one cared to see me for wasn't feeling good in
Speaker 6: my body, wasn't taking care of my body, wasn't working,
Speaker 6: so didn't have an income, felt like I needed to work,
Speaker 6: but didn't have any other skills.
Speaker 3: It was just it was a very confusing.
Speaker 6: I have absolutely no idea what I'm supposed to do
Speaker 6: with my life.
Speaker 3: Nine years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was kind of the same.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 1: Most of my twenties were just a medically induced haze.
Speaker 1: Like I look back at it now and it's just like,
Speaker 1: I did what.
Speaker 4: When I was this age? I did what when I
Speaker 4: was that age?
Speaker 1: And I look at things that I mean, I was
Speaker 1: shooting stuff still, I was shooting movies and things like that.
Speaker 4: I look back and I'm like, God, I don't remember
Speaker 4: doing that, right, Like I literally don't remember doing any
Speaker 4: of this.
Speaker 1: It's really and for somebody who I've always been told
Speaker 1: I have a very good memory, there's a good seven eight,
Speaker 1: nine years like Danielle that are just essentially blank.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, flashing images.
Speaker 2: I was doing a lot and feeling like I was
Speaker 2: doing a lot, but I was putting so much pressure
Speaker 2: on myself. I was never allowing myself to be happy
Speaker 2: with where it was. You know, I was constantly beating
Speaker 2: myself up that I wasn't already you know, selling scripts
Speaker 2: and making movies or being a star movie star, like
Speaker 2: and I look back, and I'm like, your life was good, dude,
Speaker 2: Like you were surrounded by good people. Like I had
Speaker 2: this conversation a while ago with like two friends from
Speaker 2: like in my twenties, and they were like, remember all
Speaker 2: those time we would be played running shit raids at all
Speaker 2: those great parties. And I was like, yeah, I was miserable.
Speaker 2: Why why the hell was super Bowl? Because they were
Speaker 2: telling it it's like those were great times. I was
Speaker 2: like they should have been, but in my own head,
Speaker 2: I was failing constantly. And it's like that's so lame.
Speaker 4: But that's a child actor.
Speaker 1: That's what happens when you have you have that success
Speaker 1: at such an early age. You and I having a
Speaker 1: conversation one time where I said to you something like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to be that guy in
Speaker 1: high school who's still talking about the big game and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna peek at twenty and I was, and
Speaker 1: at one point you stopped me. You're like you realize
Speaker 1: you say that to me now almost every.
Speaker 4: Time we talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was like, what I do?
Speaker 1: And You're like, yeah, You're like trying to convince yourself
Speaker 1: of some And I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: I mean, did you know that you could start a
Speaker 2: podcast talking.
Speaker 1: About the big games and it would be great success?
Speaker 2: You just had to wait till you're in your forties.
Speaker 4: I did nobody. Man, It's crazy, because I mean, I'm
Speaker 4: going to be fifty this year.
Speaker 1: So and I I, Susan and I were talking about this.
Speaker 1: I turned forty in August and then I got married
Speaker 1: in September. So I've been married to my wife the
Speaker 1: all of my forties, like, except for six weeks, all
Speaker 1: of my forties, and next to the time the seven
Speaker 1: years I was on boy Mes World, my forties are.
Speaker 4: By far my favorite decade that I've had.
Speaker 1: I'm happier now than I've arguably ever been, even when
Speaker 1: I was on the show. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's dealing with the stuff you did in the past,
Speaker 1: or it's just getting older.
Speaker 2: It's just going to be.
Speaker 4: You just look back at it and you're like I
Speaker 4: was nineteen, you.
Speaker 2: Know, there's like happiness graphs that show like, especially for men,
Speaker 2: like mid mid life crisis is like the worst. It's
Speaker 2: like right, you know, thirty five to forty five, and
Speaker 2: then you just start to accept Yeah, it gets better
Speaker 2: and you're just like happier and you enjoy your people
Speaker 2: around you. I know I feel it too. It's like
Speaker 2: I've turned a corner, Yes, the last a couple of
Speaker 2: years where my two Oh you know what, man, I
Speaker 2: really just am happy and I really should just appreciate
Speaker 2: the people and the things around me, Like it's so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I feel the same way. Yeah, my forty
Speaker 4: has been great.
Speaker 3: Same.
Speaker 5: Well, this is a good transition, then, Kimberly V of
Speaker 5: South Carolina. A lot of fandoms tend to be disappointed
Speaker 5: when the actors from their favorite shows don't stay super
Speaker 5: close once the show ends. Why do you think your
Speaker 5: friendship has endured for decades after Boy Meets World ended? Money?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just keep growing, keep it.
Speaker 4: Danielle pays us to be your friend, and uh why
Speaker 4: it's a good question.
Speaker 2: I mean, will you and I made an effort? You
Speaker 2: and I did make an effort. Yeah, like we worked
Speaker 2: at it. We definitely had to.
Speaker 3: You guys had some falling outs wait to put Yeah.
Speaker 2: We had fights about it. You know, it would be
Speaker 2: like and then we were always struggling to work together,
Speaker 2: to try and write something together or create a project
Speaker 2: where we got to be together. And I just feel like,
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I think it's like for me,
Speaker 2: it just clicked in at the end of the season
Speaker 2: seven that like you were just one of my best friends.
Speaker 2: We're going to be you know, we just had I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just like I was like I, you know,
Speaker 2: looked at you as a brother essentially, and like we
Speaker 2: cannot let this relationship die.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Even though I was in New York, I remember like
Speaker 2: always making an effort, So.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you maybe wade more of an effort
Speaker 4: than I did.
Speaker 5: Yeh.
Speaker 2: Brain, I was like I need will in my life,
Speaker 2: you know, Like I was like I need to make
Speaker 2: sure and I don't know, Like I mean, part of
Speaker 2: it was like I think, just just loving you and
Speaker 2: just want to them, you know, but it was like
Speaker 2: it's going to take some work because you weren't leaving
Speaker 2: the house for a little while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a rough time for me, and yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like you and I just it was an email
Speaker 2: relationship for a while, you know, like I feel like
Speaker 2: maybe I saw you once in New York when you visited.
Speaker 2: Maybe we only got together once, but I do remember
Speaker 2: always emailing and stay in touch via email. But yeah,
Speaker 2: then we didn't really reconnect until Girl.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, maybe a little bit. Well we had right
Speaker 3: before Girl, yeah, right before Girl. But then also when
Speaker 3: what we had the we had a couple of dinners,
Speaker 3: We had some dinners at your place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we started, And what what brought that on? Like
Speaker 2: why did we just decide to start having boy mets
Speaker 2: World gatherings?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know either, but it was the fourth was fun.
Speaker 3: I moved back to la Yeah, you moved back to la.
Speaker 2: It wasn't I was living in Laurel Canyon when we started.
Speaker 2: Because I remember, Danielle.
Speaker 3: Your car got stuck a hanging off the sign hanging out, So.
Speaker 2: That would have been two thousand and five, if five
Speaker 2: four or five?
Speaker 3: Yeah, five, And we did that.
Speaker 6: We did that a few times, and then I remember
Speaker 6: we had a we had a dinner.
Speaker 3: We were still doing it because you met Tim. Tim,
Speaker 3: you guys came, I came over to your house.
Speaker 6: But then also writer and Alex and myself and Tim
Speaker 6: went to dinner in downtown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a whole downtown hang on and yeah
Speaker 2: we were just hang like we just yeah, we were
Speaker 2: just in touch. I guess it was so it was
Speaker 2: really the only time we were out of touch was
Speaker 2: when I was in the first.
Speaker 6: The first five years after Boy Meets World, And that
Speaker 6: makes sense for me, that was just, you know, that
Speaker 6: was exactly what I wanted that I was like, I
Speaker 6: need everything that has to do with this show for
Speaker 6: me to be as far away from me as possible.
Speaker 6: And yeah, and it was kind of a darker it
Speaker 6: was a darker time. But I think the thing one
Speaker 6: of the things that's made our friendship indoor is like
Speaker 6: we talked about like those five years for me and
Speaker 6: writer being like, yeah, at the end of Boy Meets World,
Speaker 6: I just didn't really want to be around Danielle.
Speaker 3: I know, we know.
Speaker 6: Will's talked about the fact that you felt annoyed with
Speaker 6: me too, because I was so clearly over the show
Speaker 6: and it was all you wanted to do was like
Speaker 6: get the opportunity to do a season eight and I
Speaker 6: was like, I hate this place.
Speaker 3: I think we have always remained.
Speaker 6: Curious and accepting of who are you now and wanting
Speaker 6: to know who so you know, being like, okay, who
Speaker 6: you are now?
Speaker 3: It doesn't vibe with me, and so we'll just take
Speaker 3: some time away.
Speaker 6: But then the minute any of us have ever reached out,
Speaker 6: it's always been the response to being the response of
Speaker 6: seeing that person reach out is always I love you?
Speaker 6: Who are you now? And then reconnecting. And we've seen
Speaker 6: each other and known each other through many highs and
Speaker 6: many lows, and even if we've been able to say,
Speaker 6: you know what, we don't really need to spend that
Speaker 6: much time together right now because we're at very different
Speaker 6: places or we're just very different people. That's never been
Speaker 6: like I don't love you or I don't want you,
Speaker 6: you know, and so it's just curiosity.
Speaker 1: It's also during during the well I was just said
Speaker 1: during the show though, for you and me, Danielle, we
Speaker 1: were just.
Speaker 4: So different in age.
Speaker 1: I know, it's when you're thirteen and eighteen or whatever
Speaker 1: what I mean, that's two different species that point so totally.
Speaker 1: You know, we connected again much later in life when
Speaker 1: the age gap kind of closes its.
Speaker 6: Volumes about you in a positive light. That we were
Speaker 6: not hanging out.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 2: I want to throw out something else. It's occurring to
Speaker 2: me about the two of you in particular, and the
Speaker 2: three of us is like and it's probably because we
Speaker 2: were young and we also like knew each other as parents.
Speaker 2: There's always this sense that like the industry and our
Speaker 2: careers were something like outside of who we really were.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense, Like there's a sense that like
Speaker 2: the three of us, like we knew each other before
Speaker 2: we were stars or whatever, and that all the stuff,
Speaker 2: no matter what we were doing. Danielle's you know, uh,
Speaker 2: hosting the dish or writers doing horror movies, Will's doing
Speaker 2: comed like that's all like besides who we really are,
Speaker 2: which is somebody we know intimately and outside of the
Speaker 2: And I don't know if that happens for a lot
Speaker 2: of show It's like a lot of shows, even if
Speaker 2: people are sort of nobody's when they start a show together,
Speaker 2: their careers take off and they sort of become their careers,
Speaker 2: like they identify as like that is who I am
Speaker 2: and this old show that I isn't a But we
Speaker 2: always felt like we knew each other like in the
Speaker 2: in the real us, you know what I mean, and
Speaker 2: I think that's what kept our chemistry. Is probably why
Speaker 2: this podcast works, is that it has that vibe of
Speaker 2: like we still kind of feel like we're crashing the
Speaker 2: Hollywood party, and so it's like we're still kind of
Speaker 2: like we don't know, we're figuring this out. And I
Speaker 2: think that's been really healthy for our friendship.
Speaker 4: I think so too.
Speaker 1: It's also it's completely different as a cast when you
Speaker 1: grow up together. Yeah, I mean, you start a show
Speaker 1: and you're with everybody. Hey, we're a great cast. We're
Speaker 1: all twenty five. That's great, You're gonna have an amazing time.
Speaker 1: That's a lot different than when you start as kids.
Speaker 4: Just you grew up together.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So yeah, all right.
Speaker 5: Was there a Boy Meets World series rap party or
Speaker 5: any get together once it was canceled?
Speaker 2: Yeah, cure big big rap party that Will and I
Speaker 2: made a forty five minute.
Speaker 4: Video, that's right, That's where we showed it. Yeah, I remember,
Speaker 4: and bought suits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got for the rat party and yeah, you
Speaker 2: still remember the joke that we gave when we when
Speaker 2: we presented it. What was the joke?
Speaker 5: Would?
Speaker 2: I said? We started to make something that we wanted
Speaker 2: to be fifteen minutes long, and then we couldn't cut
Speaker 2: it down, so it's you know, and you said it's
Speaker 2: boy meets Brave Heart.
Speaker 4: Okay, remember it was like, no, I don't remember that
Speaker 4: at all.
Speaker 3: That's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we ended up missed have been at the
Speaker 4: rat party, Daniel.
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like I must have been, but
Speaker 3: I have a memory of it.
Speaker 2: We had rat parties every season, didn't we know?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can't remember where the last one was.
Speaker 2: No, me neither, but I remember Age.
Speaker 4: Diamonds for some reason. It's the only one I remember.
Speaker 1: The.
Speaker 4: Denim and diamonds. Yeah, but that was it.
Speaker 5: Did you know it was canceled at that last party?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we knew what we're done.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were amazed the last.
Speaker 2: There wouldn't be a season seven because Ben wasn't going
Speaker 2: to come back. So yeah, so when season seven came back,
Speaker 2: we were like, okay, well just the one more time. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Have you guys talked about Ben not coming back that time?
Speaker 5: Like you thought he wasn't coming back?
Speaker 4: I think we have, ye, yeah, because he's going to
Speaker 4: go to college.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he had already been accepted to Stanford and
Speaker 2: so he had to defer a year. Yeah, but our
Speaker 2: contracts were technically only for six seasons, so the end
Speaker 2: of the sixth season was supposed to be you know,
Speaker 2: renegotiation period for all of us.
Speaker 1: But to remember, what happened was six During six they
Speaker 1: said we'll give you the rays that you're asking for
Speaker 1: if you signed for the seventh season, right, So that
Speaker 1: was the caveat the beginning. So it's basically the beginning
Speaker 1: of sixth season, we were all negotiating you get the
Speaker 1: seventh but Ben didn't. Ben held out smart until he
Speaker 1: had been accepted to Stanford and then.
Speaker 4: Super smart fortune. Yes, not a bluff at that point,
Speaker 4: no super smart all right.
Speaker 5: This is from I believe the name is Colleen or Colin.
Speaker 5: Makes a very good point to Panga Angela, Jack, Eric
Speaker 5: Corey and even Missus Matthews. Why does almost every castmate
Speaker 5: have blonde hair or highlights all of a sudden in
Speaker 5: season seven?
Speaker 4: I can tell you why I had mine.
Speaker 1: I had mine because I had my hair dyed for
Speaker 1: at Double Hockey Sticks, which was in ninety nine, So
Speaker 1: that's probably why mine.
Speaker 4: We're still growing out.
Speaker 3: Definitely blond. Her look, wasn't it, I mean in sync?
Speaker 2: Yeahach blonde Yeah, it's totally just a trend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just what you did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of rings, lots of lots of man jewelry
Speaker 1: and uh and frosted tips.
Speaker 5: Tali a p. From Maine wondering if Writer and Josh
Speaker 5: Radnor have spoken since the podcast. I believe they are
Speaker 5: soul mats.
Speaker 2: No, but I got a text that one of my
Speaker 2: friends from like immediately after we did that interview, I
Speaker 2: got a text from one of my friends from New
Speaker 2: York at that He's like, you know, you just interviewed
Speaker 2: my brother in law. His sister married Josh Radner.
Speaker 3: That makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, he's the greatest. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's the best small brid Seth. His sister Mary Josh Renner,
Speaker 2: and that's his wife that he was talking about in
Speaker 2: our interview.
Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
Speaker 2: I got to reach out to him.
Speaker 5: I don't mean to have producer brain at all times,
Speaker 5: but would you ever be interested in just doing a
Speaker 5: Josh and Writer get to know each other special podcast
Speaker 5: every once in a while, just yes, getting to know
Speaker 5: each other.
Speaker 2: If he's in't do it, yeah, if he's in it, yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll compare notes on the thanks, I'd love you.
Speaker 3: Update.
Speaker 6: Julie Yang and I are now friends on Facebook and
Speaker 6: I've sent her a message about coming on the show.
Speaker 3: So I guess what.
Speaker 6: I looked her up on Facebook and she had friend
Speaker 6: requested me, I hope we don't have to have another Oh.
Speaker 4: My god, let's talk.
Speaker 3: She had sent me a message.
Speaker 6: The message in twenty twenty one, she congratulated me on
Speaker 6: my baby and said that she also has I mean,
Speaker 6: if I can apologize to her, I see if she
Speaker 6: wants to rock the stats.
Speaker 5: She's you know that this this Julie is her name?
Speaker 5: You say your name is Julie Silver. Yeah, because I
Speaker 5: mean nominated last year for the man Laurian Woworian.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 5: Career.
Speaker 4: You have to have her on that's cool wardrobe.
Speaker 3: It was also her birthday on January ninth.
Speaker 5: Oh you miss it?
Speaker 4: You hate this?
Speaker 5: I like this question? Can I ask you this one?
Speaker 5: This is from Alex t. If Corey and Topango would
Speaker 5: have just slept together on prom night, would Boy Meets
Speaker 5: World have better late season? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 5: I think it's such a good point.
Speaker 2: Because we wouldn't have had to do the whole like
Speaker 2: marriage committe It could have just been like, let's just
Speaker 2: be together.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: And they really do set it up with this last episode.
Speaker 1: We just recapped that it really is like he's marrying
Speaker 1: her because he wants to get laid yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it would have been a better show for sure.
Speaker 5: Charisma Tea from the United Kingdom. Did any of you
Speaker 5: get rap gifts when the series ended? Like a big
Speaker 5: final gift?
Speaker 6: You guys have talked about the fact that Michael gave
Speaker 6: you watches, right and another thing?
Speaker 3: I don't think so, but Daniel hasn't.
Speaker 5: Your mom said that it's possible you got to watch.
Speaker 3: I don't know that.
Speaker 1: So the party we were at, he opened the trunk
Speaker 1: of his car and he had me help, and he
Speaker 1: had a whole thing of men's watches and the whole
Speaker 1: thing of women's watches, and you started handing them out,
Speaker 1: and I still have mine. It just says for a
Speaker 1: good time Michael on the back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a tag, isn't it? Time?
Speaker 1: I got?
Speaker 3: Where's mine?
Speaker 5: I feel like your mom said that you were giving.
Speaker 3: Why would I have kept a mug and not the watch?
Speaker 1: You?
Speaker 5: All right? So read s? I figure a lot of
Speaker 5: people will ask what part of the rewatch podcast you
Speaker 5: will miss the most. But I would like to ask
Speaker 5: what part of the rewatch podcast will you not miss.
Speaker 3: It's a good question because it depends on what we
Speaker 3: do next.
Speaker 6: If we recap something, which it seems like we're going
Speaker 6: to recap something, Uh, then my answer changes because I
Speaker 6: what I would not miss is watching a show.
Speaker 3: I don't like watching TV.
Speaker 6: So the fact that that anytime I do, they don't
Speaker 6: like move.
Speaker 2: I like you like dancing.
Speaker 7: I like dancing, I like wrestling. I like to beat
Speaker 7: people up, and I like to I like to read
Speaker 7: in silence. And so every time we have to do
Speaker 7: the podcast, and and and I'll be like, oh God, that.
Speaker 6: Means I have to watch an episode and it's not
Speaker 6: about the show. It's not about that. I you could
Speaker 6: tell me it's my best it's my most favorite show
Speaker 6: I've ever seen. But knowing I have to watch something
Speaker 6: in order to be able to talk about it intelligently
Speaker 6: the next day is oftentimes a pain in my rear.
Speaker 4: God, that's my that was my dream as a child.
Speaker 4: And my mom would be like, study. I want to
Speaker 4: watch TV for a living, and.
Speaker 2: So study by watching TV.
Speaker 4: It's a nast thing. What am I not going to miss?
Speaker 2: I know that I finally, like you guys have you're
Speaker 2: never here. But you've seen footage of me having to
Speaker 2: black out my office. Yeah, like tape all this blackout
Speaker 2: because I have a skylight and if the skylights, it's
Speaker 2: like blazing on me. Uh And I just finally got
Speaker 2: shades ordered and they're being delivered and they're being assaulted
Speaker 2: right when we finished the recap. My my my podcast
Speaker 2: studio will be much better. But yeah, so I I
Speaker 2: hate having to do that every time, Like I have
Speaker 2: to get on, I have to stand at my desk
Speaker 2: and put this thing on. It's such a it's so stupid.
Speaker 2: I should have gotten this set up a long time
Speaker 2: ago to be this guy.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna be the same guy I was on
Speaker 4: Boy Me World.
Speaker 2: I'm going to miss everything.
Speaker 4: There's nothing I don't like about it. I mean, really again,
Speaker 4: it's you. I live a different lifestyle than you guys.
Speaker 1: I don't have kids, I don't know, so it's like
Speaker 1: to me, it's I wake up, I do what I
Speaker 1: gotta do.
Speaker 2: What are you going to miss about rewatching or not
Speaker 2: miss or not miss?
Speaker 1: I guess I mean one of the things I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I am going to miss IS or I'm not going
Speaker 1: to miss is bad episodes because it makes me feel
Speaker 1: awful when it's like, oh man, I have to go.
Speaker 1: I have to go and tell our fans and everything
Speaker 1: again that I hated something that they really like. And
Speaker 1: I know that you know everybody, you know, every episode
Speaker 1: that I hate is somebody's favorite episode.
Speaker 4: And so I don't like sitting there and going like,
Speaker 4: oh god, I really.
Speaker 3: You know, we don't want to yuck, You're yum.
Speaker 4: No, yeah, that's no good.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to do that. I really relish in
Speaker 2: the pain. It's really no.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: This is for Danielle Jennifer from Shelbyville, Tennessee. Did you
Speaker 5: feel like the experience of the wedding on the show
Speaker 5: tainted your own wedding experience in any way? Were you
Speaker 5: nervous to jinx or curse yourself? Did you have any
Speaker 5: say in the design of the dress? I have so
Speaker 5: many questions.
Speaker 6: No, the wedding process did not ruin my own wedding,
Speaker 6: But I also didn't get married for like twenty years
Speaker 6: after the show ended.
Speaker 3: I did think while.
Speaker 6: It was going on and we were going because I
Speaker 6: got to go wedding dress shopping.
Speaker 3: I guess it was with Julie, but I don't remember
Speaker 3: it being with Julie.
Speaker 6: I actually thought I went wedding dress shopping with Sarah Markowitz,
Speaker 6: but I must have been Julie. And I remember thinking,
Speaker 6: because you know, young seventeen eighteen year old Danielle was
Speaker 6: thought for sure she was going to get married very young,
Speaker 6: because that's just what my mom had done. So that
Speaker 6: I did think at the time, Oh, like, I'm already
Speaker 6: going to have tried on all these wedding dresses when
Speaker 6: I get married to some you know Whoever, the mystery
Speaker 6: man is in a couple of years, so that day
Speaker 6: my humban, Yes, a gay man for sure.
Speaker 3: And then that didn't happen.
Speaker 6: But it was really fun and I got because of
Speaker 6: Boy Meets World, I got to do the cover of
Speaker 6: a bridal magazine.
Speaker 4: Who at seventeen, okay, And.
Speaker 6: I got to wear like massively fancy dresses us at all.
Speaker 6: I'll have to show a picture of it on our socials.
Speaker 6: But no, it was really fun. Trying on the wedding
Speaker 6: dresses was super fun. I did have a say in
Speaker 6: which dress I got to wear, but it had to
Speaker 6: have sleeves Jesus, So there you go.
Speaker 5: Tany s comes through with rapid fire. You guys, ready, okay?
Speaker 5: All right? Chubbies or the student union Chubbies Chubbies Harley
Speaker 5: or Grip hardly Griff right, Griff Yeah, Frankie or Joey.
Speaker 4: Oh come on, It's like Sophie's choice.
Speaker 1: Frankie, Joey, Frankie Hippie to Joey Wow, Frankie, frank alright.
Speaker 5: G's wow. Hippy topanga or preppy topanga, hippie preppyanga? Really yeah?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 5: Real estate agent or art curator Greg could have gotten
Speaker 5: stories of that, yeah, taken out, taken out by books,
Speaker 5: or taken out by pencil.
Speaker 2: Pencil and pencil, so good.
Speaker 5: Look at arc with Ricky, or talk to Lauren all night.
Speaker 6: Oh God, talk to Lauren all night for the rest
Speaker 6: of my life.
Speaker 4: I want to have much that fictional character right in
Speaker 4: the throat.
Speaker 2: I feel like me and Ricky would get along Ricky
Speaker 2: and I would be sitting at.
Speaker 5: Ricky is at It's Ricky Ricky jo all right. The
Speaker 5: final one is a real real barn, burner, backyard or
Speaker 5: side yard final word yard.
Speaker 2: It's a sideyard.
Speaker 3: It's a side yard. Huh.
Speaker 2: I mean, wait, hold on, what am I saying? Am
Speaker 2: I saying what I think it is? Or what I
Speaker 2: want it to be?
Speaker 4: What do you think it is?
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be the backyard. It's literally written as
Speaker 2: the backyard, but I think it probably should have just
Speaker 2: been rewritten and said, like, this is a side yard
Speaker 2: and we acknowledge it as such, if that makes sense, Like, yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it played more like a side yard. As we've
Speaker 6: watched all seven seasons of the show, it has played
Speaker 6: more like a side yard.
Speaker 3: But it is clearly in design a backyard.
Speaker 1: And written as writers says, the exterior back backyard.
Speaker 5: So yeah, okay, all right, two final questions here, Mandy E.
Speaker 5: As season seven wraps up, and you have now watched
Speaker 5: almost the entire series, would you watch it again?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, now I really want to because it's
Speaker 2: so different from one to seven. It's a completely different show.
Speaker 6: And now that I know exactly what's coming, and I
Speaker 6: know the way the characters change, and I know everything,
Speaker 6: I know it now I want to. I don't know,
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 3: I want to.
Speaker 6: I want to rewatch it too, I would I would
Speaker 6: love to start back over episodes.
Speaker 4: Right, we see him, we don't see him anymore. Right,
Speaker 4: he's gone.
Speaker 2: But little Cory like with Poene doing Shakespeare. Come on, yeah,
Speaker 2: that sounds so that's a whole Like that's a cute
Speaker 2: little kids show.
Speaker 1: I have a strange question. I think they've done this.
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a rewatch podcast?
Speaker 4: It just goes back and watches.
Speaker 3: The rewatch started over?
Speaker 5: There is that one great podcast? The worst podcast ever
Speaker 5: where them watch and grown?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean you just go over and I
Speaker 2: just feel like we would end up repeating ourselves.
Speaker 5: Doing it, doing it, Okay, we're always behind those Gilmore girls.
Speaker 4: Thanks.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I mean I think it would be funny
Speaker 5: if you I mean, maybe you should pick up a
Speaker 5: couple episodes.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we should go back and we should
Speaker 1: pick the five that we all collectively hated the most
Speaker 1: and watch them.
Speaker 3: But we should also watch the five that we like
Speaker 3: the best.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I thought a good idea would be
Speaker 5: to ask the audience the five you got wrong.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a great idea.
Speaker 4: That's great. Yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 6: So basically we would give the audience but any of
Speaker 6: them that we hated at least that at least two
Speaker 6: out of the three of us hated and then say,
Speaker 6: of these, what are the what are vote on the
Speaker 6: five they should watch and the five most votes we watch.
Speaker 1: I remember I think the first one that you guys
Speaker 1: were both like, I hated this episode and you liked it,
Speaker 1: and I think I liked it. It was the when the
Speaker 1: head for the union label and when they formed a
Speaker 1: union in school.
Speaker 4: I think was the first episode where I heard the
Speaker 4: two of you go like, did I really episode? I
Speaker 4: think so?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, I wonder if my my like meter is completely
Speaker 2: different now.
Speaker 3: So now you know what, Now you know what real hand.
Speaker 4: I think it's totally great.
Speaker 2: Man, A little cute little episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, right, but now you know what true I've.
Speaker 2: Seen them exactly.
Speaker 1: I will take the worst episode from season three over
Speaker 1: the best episode from season seven.
Speaker 5: Any happens, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Exactly how anyone ends up married?
Speaker 4: Well except for men.
Speaker 5: It's I'm on the poll, all right. Finally, last one,
Speaker 5: Julia M from Green Bay. You guys frequently ask your
Speaker 5: guests what they would say to their younger selves, But
Speaker 5: what would you tell your season seven self?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man, I mean coming back to what I said earlier,
Speaker 2: just take the pressure up yourself, right, dude, Just you're
Speaker 2: doing fine, Like you know that that that like just
Speaker 2: you're you're, you're you keep being ambitious, But being ambitious
Speaker 2: doesn't mean you have to beat yourself up about it
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be too hard a conversation for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think I could do it because I just
Speaker 1: know what I was going through at the time.
Speaker 4: I guess it would just be.
Speaker 1: Well, couldn't you be like sugging myself and telling myself
Speaker 1: that it's going to end someday, but it's going to
Speaker 1: be twenty years of misery. I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 1: because it's it was the start of just such a
Speaker 1: dark time.
Speaker 4: It would that be that'd be a rough conversation for me.
Speaker 4: That'd be yeah, tough one. How about you, Daniel, Well,
Speaker 4: I'm sobbing, No.
Speaker 5: You are. Oh.
Speaker 6: I'd probably tell myself that this isn't going to be
Speaker 6: the only change you're going to experience in your physical body.
Speaker 6: Your physical body is going to change up and down
Speaker 6: and left and right a million more times over the
Speaker 6: course of your time on this earth, and.
Speaker 3: Your worth as a person was never in what other
Speaker 3: people defined as your beauty.
Speaker 6: And so I think I would tell myself that I
Speaker 6: still deserve to be loved in whatever form my body
Speaker 6: will take over the next however long I'm alive.
Speaker 4: It's a good message for everybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you think, Daniell? I mean, I don't want
Speaker 5: to like keep prying at it, but I think this
Speaker 5: is kind of an important moment. Is like, do you
Speaker 5: think because so much of your character was the beautiful
Speaker 5: girl on the show, that the minute you felt like
Speaker 5: someone didn't feel that way about you, you were just
Speaker 5: like felt kind of worthless.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I felt, as I felt that I was, that the
Speaker 6: character I played didn't care or seemingly didn't care about
Speaker 6: her own beauty or her external form. But then we
Speaker 6: did the episode where when she did something super shocking
Speaker 6: and she got rid of something that she had always had,
Speaker 6: and that she realized, oh, maybe I do care more
Speaker 6: about that. And I think for myself, I wasn't aware
Speaker 6: until season seven that, for what I felt like were
Speaker 6: the the people in charge of the show, my worth
Speaker 6: and my value was only my looks. I don't think
Speaker 6: I recognized that until it was very obvious that I
Speaker 6: was no longer attractive to them anymore.
Speaker 3: That it became aware that I was now just disposable, and.
Speaker 6: I carried that feeling with me for most of my life.
Speaker 2: What a way to throw a character under the bus, too,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like you write, you spent
Speaker 2: six years developing that this character is all these amazing,
Speaker 2: wonderful things, and then for you to feel that way
Speaker 2: in season seven.
Speaker 1: It's just it's such a tra This is also though,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things.
Speaker 4: We've talked about this so many times.
Speaker 1: Do you know how much easier it would have been
Speaker 1: on both of us if you and I just talked
Speaker 1: about it?
Speaker 4: I know, because we never talked about it.
Speaker 1: We smiled and okay this, yeah, well, hey, this's gotta
Speaker 1: be great. Where you and I literally just we were
Speaker 1: both smoking at the time, we just went out.
Speaker 4: And just talked about what had just happened.
Speaker 1: It would have made everything so much easier because our
Speaker 1: souls left our body in that meeting. It was like
Speaker 1: we we both died a little bit, and it was
Speaker 1: they had the big smiles in their face. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys, we don't have to you know, we don't
Speaker 1: have to point out that you both gotten heavy.
Speaker 4: So we're going to write to it and we're like okay.
Speaker 1: And had we just talked about it just you and I,
Speaker 1: it would have been so much better.
Speaker 2: As warm and loving as a set as we did
Speaker 2: have there was you know, that kind of vulnerability was
Speaker 2: pretty rare.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like we were we were always laughing and joking and
Speaker 2: teasing and having fun, but we weren't really vulnerable and
Speaker 2: like open with each other, especially not by season seven.
Speaker 2: I feel like maybe in the early years I definitely
Speaker 2: like had moments with you know, in schoolroom moments like
Speaker 2: but on set when we weren't in school together, it
Speaker 2: became very much a like you don't admit to weakness.
Speaker 6: It was the same way we've talked about not admitting
Speaker 6: to caring about your career or.
Speaker 2: Care about acting yourself too seriously.
Speaker 6: We weren't even allowed to care about our feelings. It
Speaker 6: was like if anything bothered you, there was something wrong
Speaker 6: with you, Like, well, why it was, Yeah, it was
Speaker 6: I don't know. I had of everything felt like you're
Speaker 6: not supposed to do You're not supposed to feel that way,
Speaker 6: You're not supposed to you're not supposed to talk about this.
Speaker 6: There's something wrong with you. That you do, and yeah,
Speaker 6: I don't think. I think it was also just even
Speaker 6: too painful for me to admit to myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you would get those friends, even even jokingly,
Speaker 1: and and I know they didn't mean anything by it,
Speaker 1: but I had a friends you know if you did
Speaker 1: try to say anything like oh wah, you're on a
Speaker 1: TV show and you're upset. Ah, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm just I'm gonna shook my mouth and
Speaker 1: put it in a box and throw it in my
Speaker 1: stomach and get grown's disease because I'm not going to
Speaker 1: talk about it with anybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean it's yeah, it's it was rough.
Speaker 1: But I always think about that where it's like if
Speaker 1: you and I had one of us had just said
Speaker 1: something to the other, it might have made.
Speaker 4: A big difference.
Speaker 5: Do you think anyone and this isn't like condemning anyone
Speaker 5: on set, but did anyone ever say to you, Danielle
Speaker 5: or will like you guys cool with this, because you
Speaker 5: would have said yeah, totally and they would have just
Speaker 5: walked away. But like, no, no, no, I.
Speaker 2: Mean I think that was the intent or the state
Speaker 2: of the media that a first meeting but it was.
Speaker 4: You see, I don't think it was no, it was.
Speaker 2: Just letting your nose just like yeah, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I think had I been like I'm not doing it
Speaker 1: and daniel burst into tears, Michael still would have found
Speaker 1: a way to do it and been like, you guys,
Speaker 1: it's this is why I'm writing it is because it's
Speaker 1: perfect for the way that you guys are feeling.
Speaker 4: Like he would have it still would have happened.
Speaker 2: But I know, I know that if Danielle had burst
Speaker 2: into tears, we all would have been like, whoa, well,
Speaker 2: it's the big deal. Right by myself, I would probably
Speaker 2: say it into it. I would have been like, it's funny,
Speaker 2: it's fine, it's we got to you know, you're an actor.
Speaker 2: You just got to take it and do it.
Speaker 4: You know, it's obvious. I mean, you guys are both
Speaker 4: put on weight. It's obviously that that's you might as
Speaker 4: well write to it.
Speaker 1: What they We just can pretend it didn't happen, and
Speaker 1: it's like okay, yeah, and that's why.
Speaker 4: We didn't say anything or do anything. It was just like,
Speaker 4: all right, that's this is what's happening.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you get so many emails. As the person who
Speaker 5: reads the emails, we get so many emails, who is
Speaker 5: they're dumbfounded by making it an episode because it doesn't
Speaker 5: look like either of you are fat?
Speaker 4: No right, no, right.
Speaker 3: No, I mean it was the time though, too.
Speaker 6: I mean, to be to be fair, it also was
Speaker 6: just a preference of at least one person on the
Speaker 6: show who definitely liked very waif like women. That was
Speaker 6: what that was the beauty standard for that, that preference
Speaker 6: for that person. But additionally, it was the it look
Speaker 6: of the time. It was Kate Moss Waif heroin chic
Speaker 6: was what it was called.
Speaker 2: And also just this gross thing about like comparing ourselves
Speaker 2: to our teenage bodies though too. You know, we're children,
Speaker 2: so it's like, well, you're never gonna your body's going
Speaker 2: to go through so many weird changes, and we weren't
Speaker 2: sort of allowed that, you know, and a lot of
Speaker 2: actors aren't allowed that. Like I've I've heard people making
Speaker 2: fun of the stranger things kids, you know, for their
Speaker 2: bodies and their faces and the way. You know, it's
Speaker 2: like they're changing, they're growing.
Speaker 1: It's like, by the way, if you do it on purpose,
Speaker 1: you do it on purpose, as an actor. You're a genius, right,
Speaker 1: you do it by accident or it's just you're normally
Speaker 1: growing up and you're lazy and you just get and
Speaker 1: it's like okay. So it's yeah, the whole thing is
Speaker 1: very very strange. But yeah, and I still and I
Speaker 1: wonder if it's because of them pulling us aside and
Speaker 1: saying we're doing this episode. I wonder if that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I still see myself as so
Speaker 1: fat in season seven, because when.
Speaker 4: I do, when I look at it, I've been way back.
Speaker 1: I've struggled with my weight my entire life, so I've
Speaker 1: been way bigger than I am on season seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: men many times in my life. I've lost it to
Speaker 1: sixty pounds four times in my life. So it's and
Speaker 1: when I look at season seven, I'm not that big,
Speaker 1: you are not, but in my head, I'm huge. And
Speaker 1: I think it's because somebody. It's like, you have a
Speaker 1: blemush on your face or something that doesn't bother you
Speaker 1: until somebody points at it and points it out, and
Speaker 1: then it's all you see. So I think that was
Speaker 1: I think him you know them. I'm not say him
Speaker 1: them because it wasn't just Michael saying we're doing this,
Speaker 1: and it was like spotlighting something that was kind of
Speaker 1: in my head that I already knew I was having
Speaker 1: a problem with and I was so medicated and everything else.
Speaker 4: And then but it's like, oh, yeah, no, everybody sees it.
Speaker 1: Maybe people don't see the idea that maybe people don't
Speaker 1: see it was blown up because people pointed at it.
Speaker 1: So it was like, oh no, everyonebody sees it.
Speaker 3: And everyone's thinking it.
Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, and that's talking about it.
Speaker 5: Danielle, Can I ask We can kind it if you
Speaker 5: don't want to answer, but I really want to know
Speaker 5: how much weight do you think you actually gained? We
Speaker 5: got this question of couple times in email people. It's
Speaker 5: not even double digits.
Speaker 3: Is it.
Speaker 6: It's probably maybe it may be somewhere between twelve and
Speaker 6: fifteen pounds.
Speaker 3: I mean I weighed night.
Speaker 6: I know for sure I weighed ninety six pounds. Jesus
Speaker 6: when in season four I weighed ninety six to ninety
Speaker 6: eight that year that I say that I peeked when
Speaker 6: I was like fifteen, and then I think I weighed
Speaker 6: anywhere from like one oh eight to one twelve in
Speaker 6: those in those later seasons.
Speaker 2: Right, that's very yeah.
Speaker 6: But you know I also at the time, I mean
Speaker 6: I didn't I don't even really I've like kind of
Speaker 6: blocked all of this out. But like that time where
Speaker 6: I weighed ninety six and ninety eight pounds and then
Speaker 6: I started very slowly. I didn't like put on the
Speaker 6: weight overnight. I was very like, all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: I would notice like there isn't a two extra pounds,
Speaker 6: and then that two extra pounds became four extra pounds,
Speaker 6: and then it became five. And you know that like
Speaker 6: during that time, I mean I started purging, I started
Speaker 6: I started throwing up, I started over exercising.
Speaker 3: I passed out.
Speaker 6: At school once from running like I had not been eating,
Speaker 6: and I and I was obsessively weighing myself, and I
Speaker 6: around the time of me gaining weight, I also stopped
Speaker 6: weighing myself because it was very clearly destructive.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I was like I can't, I can't
Speaker 3: do it anymore.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But that also shows the time and what society was like,
Speaker 1: because you put on ten to twelve pounds, and that's
Speaker 1: what everyone was talking about.
Speaker 4: I had put on almost forty.
Speaker 1: But you there's no way will what no, no, from my
Speaker 1: smallest no, no, no season but from my smallest when
Speaker 1: I was the thinnest, which was like season two, I
Speaker 1: think when I came back super thin, yeah, when I
Speaker 1: was like teen, Yeah, no it.
Speaker 2: Was I think it was more like season five, right.
Speaker 4: Whenever it was.
Speaker 1: Whenever I was super thin, I was like one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty pounds and I got up to two twenty,
Speaker 1: So that's seventy pounds waits, that's a lot. And I've
Speaker 1: had that fun I've just it's normal some people just
Speaker 1: I fluctuate and I exercise all the time. But I'm
Speaker 1: also almost fifty and I'm like, all right, you got
Speaker 1: to give yourself a break.
Speaker 4: And I'm doing this and I'm you know, eating.
Speaker 1: But at the time, when you're a kid and somebody
Speaker 1: does bracket what one of your worst fears it is,
Speaker 1: it's just and.
Speaker 4: Go, oh god. I just wish we'd talked about it
Speaker 4: would have been so much easier just to even just
Speaker 4: go through it with somebody else would have been so
Speaker 4: much easier, I.
Speaker 6: Know, And I wonder how much of it though, is
Speaker 6: also the fact that we were like, well, I know
Speaker 6: for a fact he's fine with it. He doesn't care
Speaker 6: and you're thinking, like if Danielle.
Speaker 1: Doesn't care about it, right, yeah, and I'm yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just it was a very strange time that coupled
Speaker 1: with all the anxiety and just it was That's why
Speaker 1: I couldn't say it. I don't know what I'd say
Speaker 1: to myself in season seven. It was just it was
Speaker 1: too miserable a time in my life. And like you said, Danielle,
Speaker 1: the next eight to ten years of my life were
Speaker 1: not good. Yeah, so it was, uh, yeah, this has
Speaker 1: been fun.
Speaker 3: This is a c well.
Speaker 5: Uh, I want to thank everyone who emails. We get hundreds,
Speaker 5: as you know, I have to weed through them. And yeah,
Speaker 5: hopefully we'll get to do this again at the end,
Speaker 5: because you know, you'll have a lot of emotions closing
Speaker 5: out the rewatch, so you know we'll ask it again.
Speaker 4: I might even cry, I know, doubt it.
Speaker 6: Cold hearted Will, frozen hearted Will might even get a
Speaker 6: little emotional.
Speaker 4: I doubt it, my robot, my robot insides, I doubt it.
Speaker 6: But well, you'd have to warm them up a little bit,
Speaker 6: just like this question. You know, thinking about what you
Speaker 6: would say to yourself, you didn't let yourself get vulnerable.
Speaker 3: You just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just don't know, and I look off to the side.
Speaker 4: That's the easiest way to do it.
Speaker 1: Just hide it in a box, put it down, your
Speaker 1: stamp it down deep until you just have diary and
Speaker 1: an Arco bathroom.
Speaker 3: They have nice bathrooms, though those not the one I
Speaker 3: was in.
Speaker 4: Apparently back in the day.
Speaker 2: I guess we lost Arco as a sponsor.
Speaker 5: Actually I think they should sponsor. We have great bathrooms.
Speaker 5: Is quite a cell.
Speaker 4: That's pretty great.
Speaker 3: You can bathroom.
Speaker 4: Arco, Arco place to dark.
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