1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Oh here we going back here with you on move 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: the sticks. Welcome back everybody, Red Louis and Bucky Brooks 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: here with you. And coming off on Monday, where we 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: were looking ahead to what was one of the most 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: anticipated Monday night football games of the season, Bucky ends 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: up being one of the most intriguing Monday night football 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: games of the season, one of the more interesting game 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: plans we've ever seen as a result of the conditions 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: that we're We're going on there in high Mark Stadium 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: and Orchard Park, New York. Um, look, I just I'm 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: gonna give you this stat and then I'll let you 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: run with it. The Patriots adjusted to inclement weather, the 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: succorting the next gen stats, and ran the ball one 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: percent of their plays, the highest run rate in a 16 00:00:51,520 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: game in this millennium. What's up, dude, I'm doing great 17 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: rep because to me, I loved it. I absolutely love 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: watching it. Um go down. I thought it was a 19 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: very impressive game plan. I credit Josh McDaniels for being 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: able to kind of put his ego and check to 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: kind of stick to the script. They ran the football. 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: They ran it successfully. Now, I don't know how much 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: different the game plan would have been if it was 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: regular conditions. I feel like the Patriots were gonna run it. 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I think they probably would have thrown 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: it more than three times. But I mean, I think 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: the biggest strength of the Patriots attacked the biggest weakness 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: of the Bills, which is running the football. And I 29 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: think what happened last night, I think in the middle 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: of the game, I think the football world did the 31 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: collective Oh no, the Patriots. There we go yeah, because 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: like we've talked about this, Like to me, this is 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: very reminiscent of like how they used to play in 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: the early two thousands, like it's it's not it's nothing, 35 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: not a lot of sizlin pozz as of how they 36 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: would get down. But this is a team they prized 37 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: themselves on not beating themselves. They don't typically turn the 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: ball over, and they wait for you to crack. And 39 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: teams have shown for two decades that they cracked under 40 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: having to execute under pressure. And so to me, this 41 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: is what they did. And I think mac Jonales comments, 42 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: we're telling he said, if we didn't turn the ball over, 43 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: we knew that we could win, So that wasn't a 44 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: thing that was just said on Monday before they ran 45 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: out on the field. That is something that they had 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: talked about throughout the week. We will beat this team 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: if we don't turn it over. And so to me, 48 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: this is just kind of like all of that come 49 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: into Christian even though it was an alternative game plan. 50 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into the college football playoff matchups. 51 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna get into to those games that semifinal matchups. 52 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: What might happen when we get to a national title game. 53 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Mario cris the ball getting hired 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: by Miami away from Oregon as that program now looks 55 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: for its next head coach. Get to all that, but 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: back here on this Patriots Bills game, Like, you know, 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: it's one thing to game plan, like, all right, we're 58 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: gonna run the you know what out of the blo 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: against this team. It's another thing to be able to 60 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: execute that now. I mean, Bucky, how many times and 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: how many games over the course of your football watching 62 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: career have you seen teams absolutely inept and running the football. 63 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: The Bills knew if they didn't know at the start, 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: of the game. They knew midway through the first quarter 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: into the second quarter, like, all right, they're coming right 66 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: at us here. We got to figure out a way 67 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: to stop it. And for the most part, they couldn't 68 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: not read. They really couldn't stop him until the very 69 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: end of the game when they kind of sold out 70 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: and um blitz through a gaps a few times. They 71 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: kind of did some of those other things. But to me, 72 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: what it was was, um, the Patriots doing what I 73 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: think the Patriots kind of do, is they kind of 74 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: boldly let you know exactly what they're about, you know, 75 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: like I don't think they sugarcoat anything. Like they just 76 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: kind of line up to say, like, man, this is 77 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: what we do. It's not a lot of trickery to 78 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: how they play and how they get down on how 79 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: to perform. And so um, I just thought that the 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: Patriots lined up in twenty one personnel, two backs, one 81 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: tied in to our receivers, and they just said, we're 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: going to make this a contest of toughness, physicality, and will, 83 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: and we believe that our dissiment person distance running the 84 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: football would eventually wear the Buffalo Bills down. Now, the 85 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: backdrop of this coming into the game. The two most 86 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: physical teams that have played the Buffalo Bills that had 87 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: success running the ball. The Tennessee Titan uh Dick Canry 88 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: ran four hundred and forty yards, and then a few 89 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: weeks ago the intern Apoleis Coats ran for over two 90 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: hundred yards with Jonathan Taylor playing a huge role and 91 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 1: running the ball. And so look the way this league 92 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: is as a copy k league. Until you show people 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: that you saw your biggest issue, you can get a 94 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: steady diet of it over and over and over again. 95 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: And that's what they did. Yeah, and despite those games, 96 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: I mean this, this builds defense. I mean that it's 97 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: not like they were the thirty second rush defense in football. 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean like they were still you know, a top 99 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: ten rush defense, sixth actually sixth best in the league 100 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: in terms of limiting opponents rushing yards. But again, look 101 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: you the two outliers there as you mentioned that Indianapolis, 102 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: that Tennessee game, which again simply dominated. But I keep 103 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: going back to it, like do you remember ever Bucky 104 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: being a part of the game where it's like you 105 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: go through that, you see it, you see it, you 106 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: see it, and you just can't stop it so red 107 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: funny story, so I had to pull it up so 108 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: I can give you the exact day when I was 109 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: a member of the Carolina Panthers. People will never remember 110 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: this game, but hopefully you can find it on YouTube. 111 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: It was on Okay, is Christmas Eve, two thousand and six. 112 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm with the Carolina Panthers and starting quarterback Jake delm 113 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: is not playing, so Chris Winky was the backup quarterback. 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: And to tell you the lack of confidence that John 115 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: Fox and the staff had in Chris Winky, we ran 116 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: the wildcat the entire game with the Angelo Williams and 117 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: the Sean Foster. The two guys I'm looking at the 118 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: staff now, de' angelo ran the ball times. No, de 119 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: Angelo ran twenty one times for eighty two yards. The 120 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Sean Foster ran it twenty eight times for a hundred 121 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: and two yards. The biggest game between the two of 122 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: them was eleven yards. So when you think about a 123 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: steady diet of just three and four and three and four, 124 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: and it was a game in which the Caroline fans 125 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: has won ten to three. So last night, when I'm 126 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: looking at the game, I was like, I've kind of 127 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: seen this before. And we think about like teams can't 128 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: do it because you know, we just never see it. 129 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: But there have been times Chris winking through the ball 130 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: seven times the game he was four or seven from 131 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: maybe twenty one yards. But that's that's that's that's what 132 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: it is. It's about running the football and being able 133 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: to control and I think it's it's not a coincidence 134 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: that John Fox was a defensive mind of coach Bill 135 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: Belichick comes from a defensive background obviously, and they just 136 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: kind of understand how difficult it is when someone just 137 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: commits to running the ball and saying, oh, we're not 138 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: gonna throw it. We're gonna run it and run it 139 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: and run it and run it, and we will see 140 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: if you can stop it. You know. I think there's 141 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: maybe one guy on the Patriots team that had probably 142 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: been involved in a game like that. It is probably 143 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: Shack Mason, who played at Georgia Tech right when they 144 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: were running all that, right, Yeah, yeah, So he probably 145 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: he's probably like, I'm into this. This is back to 146 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: my roots here, um you know. And look, the offensive 147 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: line is one thing Patriots have been able to find 148 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: quality runners in their history. Certainly um Roumandre Stevenson is 149 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: another one as a rookie this year, big dude right 150 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: six ft two seven pounds coming out of Oklahoma and 151 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: ends up being the fourth round pick of the Patriots. 152 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: But it has been one of the more productive rookie 153 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: runners you know, we've seen this year. Did you see 154 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: this kind of production from him, like looking at him 155 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: in college and projecting him to to the league. No, Man, 156 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of it. Like I 157 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: think a couple of different players with the Patriots head, 158 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: you didn't necessarily see. You can think that Mac Jones 159 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: will be a solid starting quarterback, You didn't know that 160 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: he would be that this good or dis effective until 161 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: you understand where he goes. And I think that's the 162 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: tough part about what we do when we talk about 163 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: pads to the draft or whatever. It's one thing too. 164 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: I analyze and evaluate players kind of independently. It's another 165 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: thing too then look at them when you see where 166 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: they are and how they're going to fit as a 167 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: piece of the public. I think for Vermond J. Stevenson, um, 168 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: he's big, he's physical, he could come down here, he 169 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: can catch the ball out of the actually those things. 170 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: But man, did you think that he was going to 171 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: be in a program where they asked him to come 172 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: down hill between the tackles over and over and over again, 173 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: and kind of I just thrive in that sledge him 174 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: a role. No, but now that you see it, you're like, oh, yeah, 175 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: that worked, and so red. When we get two and 176 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: we begin to talk about the draft, we will talk 177 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: about no two draft wars look alike, because teams have 178 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: different visions for how they see players fitting into their 179 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: system and how they would utilize them. And so that 180 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,599 Speaker 1: is why the Patriots might be higher on out of 181 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: mindre Stevenson than the Jets because of the picture in 182 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: their mind that they had for the role that he 183 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: would play. And look, I would say that we've kind 184 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: of taken the Patriots to task a long time for 185 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: like what they've done drafting, because they hadn't got a 186 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: lot of returning the investment in recent years. It looks 187 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: like this off season they kind of figured out whatever 188 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: was ailing them when it came evaluation and they're plugging 189 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: and playing. And I think maybe this has to do 190 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: with Matt Patricia kind of being back in the building. 191 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it has to be with some of the other 192 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: guys that have kind of slowly crept back into the 193 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: fold and maybe this allowed Bill Belichick to not have 194 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: to wear so many hats and kind of focused on 195 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: what he does really, really well, which has the key 196 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: to Lee told us on The Manning Cast last night, 197 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: Make no mistake, he is the defensive coordinator, just you know, 198 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: not like we all didn't think that anyway, but you 199 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: see his sons, Steve Belichick calling plays, Gerard Mayo's called played. 200 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: But Bill is the czar of the defense, whatever title 201 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: you want to give it to him, whichever way you 202 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: want to describe it. Uh, he runs that show as 203 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: as a key mentioned to Peyton and Eli last night, 204 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: which was a pretty fun interview. Also said, you know, 205 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: like there are three things that you gotta do and 206 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: you'll you'll have a great time in New England. Number one, 207 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: show up on time. Number two know your stuff, and 208 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: number three don't mess around with the media. So I thought, 209 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: and he's like, other than that, Bill, leave you alone, 210 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: man that you can wear. You can wear onesie pajamas 211 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: to walk through if you want. And so I thought that. 212 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty good from you know a 213 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: guy I got like auld keep um you know who 214 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: certainly is a character and has personality and has fun um, 215 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: but you know, showing that you know, you do those 216 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: things well and you'll have a good time playing in 217 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: New England like like to that to that point though, 218 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: like because I do believe there's this perception that it's 219 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: all drudgery in that building, but there have been too 220 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: many characters who have played there successfully for it to 221 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: be just all of that. I mean, look, look, Corey 222 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: Dillon played there, Randy Moss played there. I mean, you 223 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: know what keeps to leave? Like, There've been a handful 224 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: of guys who were kind of edgy when it came 225 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: to like maybe character stuff, and all of them have 226 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: played there and none of them have had incident. And 227 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: so to me, what could a key to leave did? 228 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: Is he kind of let us in on a little 229 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: bit of the secret saft ye, Like, man, Look, the 230 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: man is only asking you show up all time, no 231 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: exactly what you're supposed to do. You know what I'm saying, 232 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: don't share the secret to the world and then go play. 233 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: I think I think the tough thing and we noticed, 234 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: like and just dealing in business, it's hard for people 235 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: sometimes to take clear direct h directives um, and I 236 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: think what the Patriots do. I think it's very clear 237 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: in apparent when you walk in the building, he has 238 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: really expected you or whatever. And there are a lot 239 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: of people who struggle with being told exactly what they 240 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: expect and having to follow through on that being held 241 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: accountable to it. It's certainly works for New England. It 242 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: works for this Patriots team sitting at the top of 243 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: the a f C. Like, are they in fact like 244 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: a real force to be reckoned with? Here? Are they 245 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: essentially the team to beat in the a f C. 246 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: I'll just say, like, keep the kann City Chiefs in mind, 247 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: because the way the Kancity Chiefs are playing defensively, they 248 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: gives them a chance because at any point that offense 249 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: can kind of find their way. But now the Patriots 250 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: have been and the model of consistency right, And so 251 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: when you're trying to figure out which teams you're going 252 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: to project to be there in the end, you look 253 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: for the team that are consistent. And when you look 254 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: at them, I think they probably have the fewest holes 255 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: of the title contenders. Like what can we really point 256 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: to and say like, hey, this is their biggest weakness. 257 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing in the playoffs when we 258 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: get to it will be how does the rookie quarterback 259 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: perform if the game is on his shoulders? But they 260 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: have been so good at not having to put it 261 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: on his shoulders that who's to say that someone is 262 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: going to make them playing a game where Mac Jones 263 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: has to throw it fifty times a game and he 264 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: has to win it on the strength of his right arm. Well, 265 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: I mean about the only thing we can say the 266 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: Titans were went away from the Super Bowl a couple 267 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: of years ago with Tannehill throwing eight passes a game 268 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you know what I mean, Like, it's 269 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: not it's not exclusive to Mac Jones. Uh so, uh look, 270 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think this Patriots are back. 271 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: They're the kings of the a f C East right now. 272 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: And I didn't feel like they absolutely were overjoyed to 273 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: plant their flag back in the division on the Road Park, 274 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: New York. Okay, So let me just give you a 275 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: little bit of the uh prospessive. So in Buffalo when 276 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: I got in Buffalo and nine is right at the 277 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: end of the four Super Bowl run and during that time, Um, 278 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: what the Bills would do is like it's silly when 279 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: you think about it, but the Bills would always hang 280 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: the a f C. East banner whenever they would win 281 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: the division. So you would see like year after year 282 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: after year after year, and in Buffalo for the longest time, 283 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: the Bills owned the division. I mean it's like a 284 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: decade run of owning the division. And so that always 285 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: was the same, and it wasn't until the Patriots and 286 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels came in there that it kind of became 287 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: a deal to do it. And so the reason why 288 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: it's such a big deal now for the Pagets to 289 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: take that back is because those who first step then 290 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: knew what it was like the Bill dominated that division. 291 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: There's been no one else that has dominated division like that, 292 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: and so that's why it's such a big deal. They 293 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: didn't say anything, but to me, the overjoyed feeling that 294 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: you saw from the Patriots sideline, it would Bill Belichick 295 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: kind of walking down like you let Bill that, you know, 296 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: it's like give me that chain. Um, yeah, it did 297 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: feel like that. I mean like he you know, Bill 298 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: celebrates from time to time, but like at the end 299 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: of that game, you know, seeing that that that fourth 300 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: down past going complete and then seeing that you know, 301 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: the clock go to zero after mcneild and that was 302 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: that was an overjoyed Bill going into a bye week 303 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: as the number one seed in the end, because we 304 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: hadn't even talked on the Buffalo Bills, like, I think 305 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: it's important to say this. Look, uh, there was a 306 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: little testy conversation that Jordan Poor and could reporter that 307 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: asked him about whether it's embarrassing or not for the 308 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: patrons can run over there. I would say this, I 309 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: don't think the Bill's defense played bad. I think the 310 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: one thing that the Bills are going to have to 311 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: continue to figure out is one how do they play 312 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: defense without Davis White, because it does kind of change 313 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: the way that they play. Did you continue to play 314 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: as much man to man as you were playing with 315 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: your Davis White or do you go more to his 316 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: zone base system and just kind of do it like 317 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: they have a very high i Q secondary, so they 318 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: could do a bunch of different names. I think the defense, obviously, 319 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: those are two best defenses in football, one leaser league 320 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: and yards allowed, the other leader league in points, which 321 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots um. The big thing for me with the Bill, 322 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: their inability to kind of change styles. I feel like 323 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: they only can win one way on offense, and that 324 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: is Josh Allen playing big, running around, making all the 325 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: plays at some point for them to make a legitimate run, 326 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: they have to be able to run the football when 327 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: everybody knows they need to run it. And it can't 328 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: be Number seven team always running it. So they have 329 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: to develop a running game. And I think Sean McDermot 330 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: talked on it, but he said, at this stage of 331 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: the season, I don't know if we can do it. 332 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, they know, like we 333 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: have to figure out that. That to me is the 334 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: biggest thing. I'm not necessarily worried about their defense. I 335 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: am worried about Josh Allmen having to do everything without 336 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: the hint of a running game coming from another running 337 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: back or playmaker on the point Kevin Singletary, Zack Moss, 338 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: Matt Brita just it's just it's hard to figure out 339 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: who they want to run the rock um and probably 340 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: because none of the three have stepped up and had 341 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: consistent success with it. And it's not all on them. 342 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: That's on the guys up front too. It's on the 343 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: commitment to and it's on the scheme, it's on the 344 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: whole deal um. But that part of the Bills game 345 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: I felt like last year, like going into the off 346 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: season when we're talking about the Bills as a contender 347 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: and you look at him as a potential the potential 348 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: weakness like well outside of Josh Allen, like they don't 349 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: have a consistent run game, and that we're seeing here 350 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: no different through thirteen weeks. It matters. It matters doing 351 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: this time of year when you get to the stretch 352 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: run like we can see all the funds at the 353 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: ball swipp throughout there, but at the end when you're 354 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: playing really good teams, the only way to control the 355 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: game is you have to be able to run it. 356 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: You have to be able to kind of control it 357 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: and dictate the terms and not necessarily make it where 358 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: a Josh are gonna have to throw it all the time. 359 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: And also you have to be able to run it 360 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: to run out the clock at the end of games 361 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: in close games, and so how they manufacture running and 362 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: maybe that's being a little more creative, Maybe that's still 363 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: like some of the Jets weep F Last Sweek concepts 364 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: that are coming throughout the league. But they have to 365 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: be able to get to a hundred and twenty five 366 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: rushing yards a game without it all being Josh Allen. Yeah, 367 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: maybe it's uh. Maybe the answer is in this year's 368 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: draft when Hassan Haskins is available after playing in the 369 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: College Football Playoff, which we get into, or right after this, 370 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: Sarah moved the sticks. Alright, lewis back here with Bucky 371 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: Brooks looking at the College Football Playoff history made courtesy 372 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati Bearcats and as they will come into 373 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: the playoff as number four. See they get a date 374 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: with Alabama in the Semis after Alabama dominated Georgia in 375 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game, dropping the Bulldogs, and number three 376 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: Georgia gets set for a matchup with Michigan, which we 377 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: get into here in a second. But I want to 378 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: start with Cincinnati because I think there's still doubters out 379 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: there whether this team deserves to be in the College 380 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: Football Playoffs. An undefeated champion of the American Athletic Conference. 381 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: They'd be Houston fairly handily, which is another ranked team 382 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: in the CFP Top twenty five. There are as many 383 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: dudes from this Cincinnati roster that we're going to be 384 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: talking about in the spring leading up to the draft 385 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: as almost any other school maybe outside of Alabama and Georgia, 386 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: like they have some serious NFL type talent. There's six 387 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: of their best players going to the Senior Bowl this year, 388 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: six players from Cincinnati. There's a seventh in uh In 389 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: induced Um the corner. It was gonna be a probably 390 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: a first round pick. Um and you know, depending on 391 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: how he graduates, will get into the the you know, 392 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: the the offseason bowl, you know, all Star game circuit too. 393 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: But these they are talented enough to hold up in 394 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: this playoff in my mind. Yeah. So here's here's the 395 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: issue that I think people have with Cincinnati. One, it's 396 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: not the brand name that the other three teams are 397 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: in terms of just understanding like who they are. When 398 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: you think about college football, the names that routinely come 399 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: to mind are Alabama, Georgia, Michigan based on the long, 400 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: decorated histories of those respective programs. I think Cincinnati also 401 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: last year when they had an opportunity to play Georgia 402 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: UM in the game, I think people tune in and 403 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: we're surprised to see them go toe to toe. But 404 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were dismissive because they're like, uh, 405 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: George is not even into it. They're playing the round 406 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: and then Georgia wins the game at the in It's 407 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: unfortunate for Cincinnati though, that they're gonna go again Alabama 408 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: right out of the gate, because it's almost kind of 409 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: like I kind of feel like the committee was like, Okay, 410 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: you want to play with the big boy. We can 411 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: the biggest boy to play with right out the game. Yeah. Well, 412 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: I mean, we're just gonna give you like the monster 413 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: that has dominated the landscape over the last ten years. 414 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: Um that said, this is a really good team and 415 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: they are world coach, and they have a quarterback and 416 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: Desn't Rider who we're gonna talk about a ton um 417 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: and they understand how to get it done Luke Fickle 418 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: as a team. Uh look, man, they're they're hungry, they're 419 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: they're not afraid, and I know people are gonn look 420 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: at some of the close games they played with you know, 421 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: talking about they're playing up and down to the competition. 422 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: But make no mistake, when they played Notre Dame, they 423 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: whipped Notre Dame. They beat Notre Dame up, they beat 424 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: them up. And so I think we need to give 425 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: them enough respect to know that a in this situation, 426 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: when it's a one and done contest, they absolutely can 427 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: arrive up. Uh. Forgive me apologies to Ahmad Sauce Gardner 428 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: had my nicknames screwed up there, called them Juice Sauce Gardner. 429 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardeners can be one of the best cornerbacks in 430 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: this year's draft class when when all that comes to bear. 431 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: But he and I mean like guys like dari and 432 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: Beaver's linebacker my J. Sanders in an edge rush capacity, 433 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: a couple of dbs, I mean, Kobe Bryant's in the 434 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: is the Thorpe Award finalists as a safety, Brian Cook, 435 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce is a wide out as an explosive dude too. 436 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: And then Desmond Ritter, as you mentioned, will be one 437 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: of those top quarterbacks we talked about, uh, and that 438 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: kind of first five off the board type of range. 439 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if we get five first round quarterbacks 440 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: this year, but among those top five, he is certainly 441 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: in that conversation. So but look, you know, Alabama knocked 442 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: off the real big dogs, the Bulldogs and the team 443 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: that was the wired wire number one in the CFP 444 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: rankings and in the polls this year based on their 445 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: defense and put up forty on them. That's why Bucky 446 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: I thought Ohio State versus Georgia, Ohio State would give 447 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: Georgia the toughest test because of their aerial attack and 448 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: not have to run it run it up against Jordan 449 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: Davis all day long, um, the defensive lineman for Georgia. 450 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: So I'm not I guess I'm not shocked to see 451 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: Alabama and Bryce Young have that kind of success in 452 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: the past game against them. But it does, you know, 453 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: open up the question like is this defense as good 454 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: as we thought it was? And you know, in a 455 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: rematch like potentially if they can get by Michigan and 456 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: Alabama gains by Cincinnati, are they gonna fare any better? Yeah, 457 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: I mean that's I think that's a very real thing. 458 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of things at Georgia 459 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: that's that you worry about now that you've seen Alabama 460 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: have it. Um, you look at SEC is a loaded conference. 461 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: But when we look at the slate, a team that 462 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: Georgia played, do they play a real prolific aerial attack 463 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: and they had most of the teams kind of played 464 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: to Georgia stramp when it comes to the ring gamely 465 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: is is there court enough their quarterback good enough that 466 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: and been is he good enough when the game falls 467 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: on his shoulders to be able to do it? Because 468 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: this is a team that has always kind of played 469 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: from their front. They didn't necessarily need him to step 470 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: outside of his comfort zone as a game manager to 471 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: be a playmaker. So that would worry me. That's it 472 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: the first round matchup to semifinal matchup with and we 473 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: have time to talk about it. Georgia and Michigan kind 474 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: of kind of plays to the strength because the way 475 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: Michigan wants to play, it's kind of like those SEC 476 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: teams that want to come downhill and smash and do that. 477 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: They can throw it some, but they're not the prolific 478 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: path attack to Alabama is. They're not prolific like Ohio 479 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: State is when it comes to throwing the rock around 480 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: the yard. So are worried about that. So then in 481 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: a rematch against Alabama, if Alabama UM is able to 482 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: get past Cincinnati, I do wonder what changes Because Bryce 483 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: Young I wouldn't say he played good, but I don't 484 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: think he played great against George He has spectacular moments. 485 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: And so now that he's seen the monster and he 486 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: even played better if he gets another opportunity to face it. Yeah, 487 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: and uh look, it's it's interesting. We've got Atan Hutchinson 488 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: in this game. Who's you know, could be a number 489 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: one overall pick this year. You saw him in right, 490 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: him in person. He is so good. He gets a 491 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: sack where he does a double slap swim move like 492 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: in in in different directions to be the tackle than 493 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: the running back to get us. And then he he 494 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: does some other stuff and I think people need to 495 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: understand Please don't miscast him as somebody who's just like 496 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: a try hard worker a guy, because sometimes people associate 497 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: um guys that look like him like that high end 498 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: impressive athletes who is very skilled when it comes to 499 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: his craft. And in the comparison, the reason I compare 500 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: him to Joey Boston and those types because I think 501 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: Joey bos and Nick Botha were two of the most skilled, 502 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: refined players that we saw at the position come in. 503 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: Unlike some that are athletes that kind of went with 504 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: their superior physical talent, these guys have a combination of 505 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: great talent and great skills and I think a Puttinson 506 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: and that, and that's why we're hearing the buzz. Hey, 507 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: he might be number one over Cavon Thibodeau, who also 508 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: recently announced that he is just this season. Yeah, yeah, 509 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: and look that's I mean Thibodeaux as a freak. I 510 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: think I think we've seen that from time to time 511 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: there at Oregon. I mean, like, I even think with Hutchinson, 512 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: there's a little j J. Watt to his game with 513 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: the physicality, but maybe even more athleticism to me coming 514 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: off the edge and J I would say that because 515 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: when you look at j J. Like JJ's numbers, uh 516 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: when he tested coming out of Wisconsin one thing. But 517 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: I think I don't know if we saw it look 518 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: like that at Wisconsin. When I look at Hutchinson, maybe 519 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: it's a little small shoulder pads that he's playing with 520 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: MS Like he looks man, that dude is athletic. He 521 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: he kind of looked like a sweat He is so 522 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: athletic and nimble. Yeah, And I think I think this 523 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: is why he kind of ends up having an inside 524 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: track to being the number one overall. Is what every 525 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: coach wants is your best player to be your hardest worker, 526 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: and when you watch him, there's no doubt about his 527 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: skill set. But there's also no doubt about his motor. 528 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: I mean he brings it each and every day, each 529 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: and every play, and so yeah, it's it's impressive watch that. 530 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: He's a very impressive prospery, like one of the best 531 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: one that I've seen. And I know like he like 532 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: it took him a long time as a long road 533 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: coming coming off that foot injury or whatever, but the 534 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: production that he put up this year is outstanding. And 535 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: when you go to the athleticism and the character and 536 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: all his other stuff, it's wuld be hard to move 537 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: my spot. Yeah, I think you're right. Uh, And look 538 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: to me like maybe Thibodeau has a slightly higher ceiling 539 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: in terms of of overall talent and ability to become 540 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, a Neil All pro, but it's not that different. 541 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: And then for Hutchinson, the floor feels a fairly significant 542 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: amount higher. Like the safety of the Yeah it feels uck. 543 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: You know exactly what you're getting, and then like digging 544 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: into it, like read like just how is a five 545 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: year old because his dad played in Michigan and how 546 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: he hung his dad's Jersey up in his bedroom and 547 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: how he was like I'm gonna play and I'm gonna 548 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: do this stuff and and broke his dad's record this 549 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: year too. Just the drive and and just all of 550 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: those things. Man, that is the stuff that you you 551 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: love when when you were a scout. Like man, guys 552 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: who are all about it like football is the priority 553 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: is about them taking care of business. The maturity that 554 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: he's displayed. And then like even in looking at his 555 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: recent Instagram posts where he pushed the hashtag those who 556 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: will stay going back to the old bullshef after thing, 557 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: those who will stay will be champions, like all of 558 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: the work that they put in. I'll standing and I'm 559 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna say this, the defensive end or the ed on 560 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: the other side, David and Jambo not so bad, right, 561 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: he might be his name might be called a couple 562 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: of spots right after Adon Hutchinson. That's how yeah, ho, 563 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 1: Holy smokes man. Then I think about, like, man, they 564 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: had all these dudes and Quinny pay and all the guys. 565 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm just when you go back and you just think 566 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: about the guys that have come out of there, like 567 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: e and all this other stuff like Rashan, Gary a 568 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: little bit before then. They have done a great job 569 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: of use with the job Hutchinson when they were freshman. Yeah, 570 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: recruiting and developing their guys. It's just now that none 571 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: of we're off the Jim Harbor thing because they beat 572 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: Ohio State and they wanted to big Penning that would 573 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: have a great appreciation for what they've done, because man, 574 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: they looked apart coming out, because that's the one thing 575 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: like you do when you just got you look at 576 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: pregame and I'm watching them, and I'm also watching i 577 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: who was also very impressive on the hoof when you 578 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: get to glisten them like, but it's a difference though, Yeah. Yeah, 579 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: and Tyler Lynn. The problem for Iowa and that game 580 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: Tyler lender Baum Um they didn't have. He wasn't also 581 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: playing left tackle and right tackle. He was only playing center. 582 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: And now he will Yeah, he will challenge draft records 583 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: for centers in terms of highest center taken. Like he's 584 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: that good. And I don't know where that record is 585 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: right now, but Garrett brad Berry was taken I think 586 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: in the top twenty at any state. Yeah, Um, Marquis 587 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: or Mike Pouncey. I think Marquis or Mike might have 588 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: been the highest by the Dolphins team. I think yeah, 589 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: but that's that feels like a spot that lender Bomb 590 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: could certainly go with the way that he's played. Um, 591 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: I think he's He's the odds on favorite to win 592 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: the Remington's uh this year is the nation's best center. 593 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: So a lot of intrigue with the college football playoff 594 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: as we get closer to the end of December. Can't 595 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: wait to see those guys get out on the field. 596 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: Will certainly have an opportunity to continue to dig into 597 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: those matchups. We were talking about edge rushers though, and 598 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: Hutchinson versus Thibodeau. Thibodeau now declaring he is eligibility for 599 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, leaving Oregon, who also now has avoid 600 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: at head coach after the departure of Mario Crystaball to Miami. 601 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: That on the docket next. Okay, it's been a absolutely 602 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: wild coaching carousel in college football these last few weeks. 603 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: More in season firings in transition at leadership positions in 604 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: Marquee college programs than we've ever seen, and more money 605 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: thrown around then we've ever seen. Hello Lincoln Riley, Hello 606 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly. Now, Hello, Mario Cristo Ball leaving Oregon after 607 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: successful run, there's the Duck's head coach to go back 608 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: to his roots in Miami. And this one kind of 609 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: feels a little slimier in the way that it happened. 610 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: I think it comes as no surprise to anyone, but 611 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: it's almost like it was like, all right, many Diaz 612 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: is still the head coach until we get Mario to 613 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: sign it. Get all seemed a little bit backwards, you know, 614 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: for an athletic department that's kind of without leadership there 615 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: in Miami anyway, with no athletic director. So I guess 616 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: I understand it. It's an unfortunate deal for for many 617 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: das who like, Okay, Mario decides to stay in Oregon, 618 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: but do you really want me to stay now? You know, 619 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: like the whole thing felt like it was gonna it 620 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: was gonna be destined for transition to Miami. Yeah, And 621 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean there definitely wasn't a a model case for 622 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: how to handle UH coaching transition. One, how to fire 623 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: or remove a coach UH classy and a classy manner. 624 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: And secondly, just the way that Mario Crystal Ball comes down. 625 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: I certainly understand that Mario Cristal Wall being a kinge, 626 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: having played there, having been assistant there, having understood the 627 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: under the inner workings of hurricane culture, like I get it, Um, Yeah, 628 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: but if you're gonna make the move, make the move. 629 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think it's unfair to 630 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: many das his family, his assistant coaches, and their families. 631 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: They have to kind of deal with the yo yo 632 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: ride that did it, And it just kind of makes 633 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: you wonder when you step into this situation, like, look, 634 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: it's all good when you come in, but are they 635 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: then going to treat you like that on the way out? 636 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: And so we're just kind of see how that plays out. 637 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: But the move in general, I understand it from crystal 638 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: Ball standpoint. Crystal Ball has built up Oregon into um 639 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: a national championship caliber contender, a team that certainly looked 640 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: different than they even looked on the Chip Kelly in 641 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: terms of physicality, Uh, beside the athletes and what they 642 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: were doing when Chip was there, it was still more 643 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: scheme driven, not necessarily all talent based and talent driven. 644 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: How they went now is a talent driven deal, And 645 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: so he gets credit for recruiting up in the Pacific Northwest. 646 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: Now you give him kind of like that that rich 647 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: recruiting soil of as they say, down there the state 648 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: of Miami where he doesn't have to get outside of 649 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: Miami and just kind of offense around the talent that 650 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: is down there in South Florida. Yeah, you would like 651 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: to think that he's able to take all the things 652 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: that he's learned along the way, including uh program, building 653 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: on the Nick Saban and put it in Miami. It's 654 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: the scary thought. See what it looks like though. Yeah, 655 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: and look it's a team that's got the reigning a 656 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: CC Freshman of the Year coming back next year and 657 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: quarterback Tyler Van Dyke. It's also a team that has 658 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: some big wins this year over number eighteen NC State 659 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: over number thirteen Pitt and Heisman Trophy candidate Canny Pickett. 660 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: Of course, losing the Florida State hurts certainly, but look, 661 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: they won some games at the end of the season, 662 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 1: beat Virginia Tech, beat Duke, beat Georgia Tech, and put 663 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: up some points doing it. Uh So, look the Couverards 664 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: not bear and then it's it's always a pretty I 665 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: don't know, I want to say quick, but the path 666 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: through rebuilding that program to prominence starts in their own backyard, 667 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, which you can't necessarily say for every program 668 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: in the country. Um So, but there there you goes. So, now, 669 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: what do you think for Oregon? Is this a chip 670 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: Kelly reunion here? Uh? Bucky, I mean it seems maybe 671 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: a little far fetched, But yeah, this is tough because 672 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: I feel like Chimp finally has U c l A 673 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: the way that he wanted, you know, but bowl game 674 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: aiding for playing the way they want to play. I 675 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: feel like he finally has his guys, and he kind 676 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: of has a formula understanding of how you have to 677 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: win at U c l A with the academic restrictions 678 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: and those things. Uh, then you want to go back 679 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: to Oregon because, like sometimes, man, that second act when 680 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: you go back and necessarily the same as the first 681 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: go around, and the landscape of college football has changed 682 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: so much that I don't know if he could live 683 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: up the legend that he is in Oregon when he returned. 684 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: That's a um man let checkbook that hill Night has 685 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: up there is big and um he certainly can lure 686 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: him back if he wants to. I just wonder if 687 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: Chip wants to take on that after kind of getting 688 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: everything finally situated at u c l A, does you 689 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: want to kind of go back and kind of start 690 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: all over a little bit when he goes to Oregon. 691 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: It sounds like, you know, there was some some serious 692 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: consideration for USC to bring Matt Campbell down from Iowa 693 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: State to be there next to coach before Lincoln Riley 694 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: ultimately got that job. Wonder if if maybe that's a 695 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: direction the Ducks would would consider moving. It seems like 696 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: the type of program that might interest Campbell. I think 697 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: so because I don't think it's a high profile program 698 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: per se, like in the city, like in the USC thing. 699 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: I think that would have been a tough one for 700 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: Mcampbell because Matt Campbell would have been forced to do 701 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: like probably more media obligations, like a bigger story. He 702 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: probably would have to be out and about more in 703 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: terms of being seen. When I look at the programs 704 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: that he's been a part of, our first Mountain Union 705 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: where he played, secondly in Toledo, then come in to 706 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: Iowa State, those are kind of like small market you 707 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 1: kind of the BMOC, but you kind of hide under 708 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: the radar I feel like Oregon is a situation on 709 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: a grander scale, but I still feel like the town 710 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: of Eugene, it's still kind of small. He's not gonna 711 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: have to deal with what he would have to deal with. 712 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: And I think you take the same model that he 713 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: used at Toledo Iowa State, you dropping in at Oregon 714 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: with more talented pieces. I mean, you know, he canna 715 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: have a ton of success at Iowa State. I think 716 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where every three or four 717 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: years he'll building team to be able to buy for 718 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. I don't know if it's sustainable to 719 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: be a ten win, tin win, tin win team. And 720 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: I look at yeah, Kirk Farence has had you know 721 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: it's done in Iowa. I mean, gets his team to 722 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: the Big Ten championship this year and they're always in 723 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: that eight to ten win range. But are you gonna 724 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: win a national title there? I don't know. I mean 725 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: in that ultimately the goal. Yeah, everything everything has to 726 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: crack right when you hit those presidents. And I think 727 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: both of those guys coaches deserve a ton of parents Iowa. 728 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: And then what mccampbell has done at Iowa State in 729 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: a in a relatively short time. Like he has made 730 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: them a national presidents, not a national contender, but a 731 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: national president where you know, I always say, you know 732 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: what that brand is. He's done a really good job 733 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: of that. Um. But how do you reload and how 734 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: do you rebuild and how do you sustain in how 735 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: long can you sustain it? Um in a change in 736 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: conference because the conference changes as well. Okay, so much 737 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: transition in the college football world among head coaches and 738 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators and defensive coordinators and uh, you know, hopefully 739 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: we get all these things filled here before we kick 740 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: off next season. That's that's the kind of craziness we've 741 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: seen so far. But that's gonna do it for this 742 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: episode of Move the Sticks. Back with another episode for 743 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: you later this weekend, and of course DJ back here 744 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: with Bucky and myself on Monday, three pm Eastern on 745 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: NFL Network, wrapping up Week fourteen in the NFL coming 746 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: down the stretch here, Bucky, Uh, great to be with 747 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: you here, man, and thanks to the Bill for getting 748 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: us rolling here on a Move the Sticks and we'll 749 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 1: catch you next time. Right here, I'll move the sticks. 750 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: He has got before to love d