WEBVTT - The New Wave of Queer Exterminationist Rhetoric 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:09.039 Welcome to it could happen here the podcast that's increasingly 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.200 about things that are actually kind of already happening of 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:15.080 and today it's gonna be it's gonna be one of those. 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.919 And we're talking about in the kind of the uptick 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:23.320 in rhetoric around queer exterminationism that's happened. Most of the 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:29.080 stuff is what this is discussions and legislative proposal and 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.440 rhetoric that was really kicked off last month during Pride months, 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:37.120 specifically because of the Rovy Wade ruling that really opened 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.920 the door on a few not good possibilities. Um. But 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.840 because we're gonna be talking about some more grim stuff today, 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.880 we're gonna we're gonna open with something slightly more funny. UM. 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:54.480 And that's a friend of the pod, Dr Jordan B. Peterson. UM. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:58.680 Now with with me today is it's Chris and James Greetings. 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:07.240 So Peterson he got he got really mad at Elliott Page. 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.720 Um and now does not really have a Twitter account. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.839 And it's pretty funny. Uh. And a few days after 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:18.560 he was banned for continuing to miss gender Elliott Page, 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.240 he released a video that can only be described as 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:26.200 a super villain monologue. UM as as a part of 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.880 his new partnership with Daily Wire Plus, the hit new 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:34.720 streaming service. Um and just because I think it's funny, 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.000 We're just gonna We're just gonna play a few clips 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:43.600 of of this of this evil super villain monologue because 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.479 it's really funny, and then it'll circle back to kind 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:51.080 of our topic towards the end. So Ah speaking speaking 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.760 a friend of the pod, Peterson, here's here's our here's 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.880 our one of the clips. That's you've probably already heard 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:01.000 if you're if you're terminally online, but it's incredible funny. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:05.840 If I'm required to acknowledge that my tweet violated the 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:11.280 Twitter rules, what rules? You sons of bitches? Good old, 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.000 good old Peter said. You know the thing, I've always 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.440 been sort of like that clip in particular, It's like, 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.359 I don't know if I was trying, I don't know 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.639 if I could emulate just the it's sounding like you've 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:29.919 edited together sixteen clips. If you my tweet violated the 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:33.799 Twitter rules, it's like it's his speech pattern is so bizarre. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.520 And also like in the in the video was like 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:43.120 nine minutes long. Like Proceding that line, he explained what 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:47.120 rule he broke around miss gendering and harassment. So like 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:53.720 he explained the exact rule. Ah, but we always get more, 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.360 Peter said, if you ask for it, up yours woke moralists, 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:06.480 we'll see who cancels who like extremely funny. He's actually 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:10.200 sneering as well. If you watch the video, like, yeah 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.280 he is, he's he's going all in on the bit. 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.640 He's doing like Ozzy Mandius but hammed up. It's it's 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:20.800 frankly impressive. This is this one's also also a decent one. 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:25.919 I am employing this awkward and impossible naming style because 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:30.920 it is now apparently mandatory and and probably doing it wrong. Nonetheless, 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.360 as you're doing it wrong is the whole point of 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:37.800 what has been made mandatory. But also I'm trying to 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:42.120 make a point. I've essentially been banned from Twitter as 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:49.800 a consequence. I say banned, although technically I have been suspended, 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.520 but the suspension will not be lifted unless I delete 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.720 the hateful tweet in question, and I would rather die 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:07.240 than do that. That means that you have a healthy 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:11.080 relationship to the platform of Twitter. Um. There's also this 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.320 this great clip of him talking about like I'm actually happy, 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:18.640 how my Twitter account is gone. Now Twitter is insignificant 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.400 in the final analysis, and you're like, what the fund 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:26.080 does that mean? What? What fun What final analysis are 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.240 you talking about? What do you what do you mean? 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:36.840 The final analysis analysis of what? Like? What is? Oh, 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:41.080 it's it's pretty funny. There's there's two more clips from 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.080 this rent that I want to do, which kind of 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.120 are going to get more to the heart of our 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:50.000 issue today. Um, they're they're not great. They actually are 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.840 kind of they kind of suck. So, without further ado, 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:56.920 here's their good doctor friend. And finally, with regard to 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:01.000 the final phrase criminal physician, I must say that I've 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:05.200 had some post coital, so to speak, regrets about that phrase. 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:09.039 It is clearly the case that the surgical operation performed 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:13.120 by the butchers who butchered Elliott slash Ellen was legal, 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:20.360 So was it criminal or not? Were the operations undertaken 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.720 by the fascist physicians who carried out the Nazi medical 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:30.479 experiments legal Yes, under the laws of the time, But 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:35.039 were they criminal? I'll leave that question up to you 0:05:35.120 --> 0:05:40.920 to answer. So that's pretty gross for a lot of reasons. Um. One, 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.880 the kind of historical context of using nazis too compare 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:49.240 to your own transphobia is a little dicey when you 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:53.400 consider how with the Nazis did to trans people into 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:58.240 like queer books, Like, yeah, he's advocating for the Nazi 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:04.760 position here. Yeah. Yeah. There's been so many bands on 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.440 queer books this Like just in the past two years, Uh, 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.480 the Library Association tracked almost six books that were challenged, 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.680 in the highest number since the organization began tracking book 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:22.320 bands in the past twenty years. So talk talking about 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:27.279 like the Nazi scientists, they're like you like you have 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.719 is his his historical context of obviously is incredibly lacking, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.640 or he's just or he's just a grifter. I think, honestly, 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.080 he's just kind of I think he's just kind of 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.680 lost it. I think I don't even think he's fully 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:43.320 a grifter. I think he's just kind of not understanding 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:47.320 what's going on anymore. Of because you can watch like 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:50.039 interviews and stuff where people can try to use reasoning 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.000 and logic with him, and you can watch his brain 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.919 start to process it. But it's just like otherwise, he 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:58.279 just doesn't think in any sort of logical manner, put 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.279 his words or his like stream of consciousness into any 0:07:01.320 --> 0:07:04.920 historical context. He just says what he wants, and he's 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.440 used to people just taking that as a fact. Um, 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:11.800 he's used to like regurgitating bad Joseph Campbell and people 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.680 be like, oh, yeah, you sound smart, would know he's 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:20.680 actually not he's um, but man, it's it's yeah. The 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:29.360 whole Germany Nazi scientist experimentation thing is incredibly incredibly frustrating. Um. 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:32.480 I I don't even know what else to like say 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.320 about a say about that, because I mean even that 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:36.760 that line, you can focus on it for a while, 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:43.320 like compare how like the history of medical documentation of 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.040 like transnis and the Nazis. How that's like such a 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.720 big thing is that the Nazis destroyed so much medical 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:55.440 research on gender transitions, losing like like decades and decades 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:59.760 of research that we're only now starting to regain incredib 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.040 cred of the grass. But there's this one one, one 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.679 last one last clip. I wanted to play of of 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.200 of our of our good doctor and are we degenerate, 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:13.920 you know, profoundly threatening manner. I think the answer to 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:19.400 that may well be yes. So that's not great. He 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:23.080 really is just advocating for the Natty position every turn, 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:28.160 Like yes, he's just continuing to advocate for fascistic reasoning 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:33.240 of fascistic views of decadence and degeneracy insomuch as it 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.959 is a threat to civilization and a threat to Western society. 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.920 And then he goes on in this clip to justify 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:44.800 Russia's invasion of Ukraine because the US is helping Ukraine, 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:49.240 which makes Ukraine degenerate by proxy, So Russia is doing 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:53.360 a war on degeneracy. And that's like, that's his arguments, Like, 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:57.320 that's his level of logical reacting. Yeah, which which is 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.280 funny because it's like if you ever heard any of 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.360 the like ready, because every once in a while, there 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.240 will be video clips of just like Ukrainian Russian soldiers 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.920 yelling at each other and it's just both of them 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.360 calling each other gay over and over again. It's just like, 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:22.760 really like this bring back that level of discourse to America. Well, Um, 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.400 we're gonna take a quick break and then we will 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.480 come back to talk about our other really close friend 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:44.720 of the pod, Matthew Walsh, So stay stay tuned for that. God, Okay, 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:49.080 I have I have one question for everyone here. Um 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:54.040 what what how? How? Woman? What? What is what is 0:09:54.160 --> 0:10:04.719 that featherless, biped Okay, the whole a woman. So when 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:08.720 we're talking about Matt Walsh, U obviously last month he 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:14.760 released uh, a pretty poorly made transphobic documentary that was 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.120 jacsically just a clipse of him getting owned by like 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:23.960 actual doctors for not understanding like basic ontology and medical reasoning. Um. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.520 The documentary was just uh. Other friend of the pol 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.800 JK Rolling just expressed support for the documentary. So if 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:34.880 that's if that's on an indicator that like turfism is 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:38.560 just like a direct preamble to open fascism, I don't 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.440 know what is because I mean Matt Matt Walsh jokingly 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:44.640 describes himself as a fascist, but that's because his his 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.760 beliefs actually are fascistic. Like he said, it's one of 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.000 those jokes that only is funny because everyone agrees on 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.360 the central premise, like it's it's that, it's that it's 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:57.280 that type of humor. Um. So like J. K. Rowling 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:02.480 just endorsing an open fascist. So I'm not going to 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.240 talk about the documentary in depth here because it's not 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.400 that good and it doesn't really make any points that 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.640 need to be refuted. It it talks about how like 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:15.880 It talks about how how puberty blockers are um sterilization 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:21.720 uh drugs, which is not the case long term when 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.240 you're on them, Yes, you cannot. You cannot do that 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:28.240 because it's obviously inhibiting your your hormones. But once you 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.920 go off puberty blockers, you can procreate again, which which 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.360 also I just want to take a second here to 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.320 look at this position, which is that, Okay, so puberty 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.320 blockers are sterilization things, right, I like, okay, so this 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:42.800 is their arguments and sterilization, right, Who are you giving 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:47.480 puberty blockers to children? Why the fuck do you care 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.160 like children? It's like wait, I mean they arguing it's 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.959 like that, but it'll make them, It'll make them permanently sterilized, 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:58.840 Like like you're castrating these kids by giving them pumanity blockers, 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.480 which no, that's not how that works. You're you're just 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.599 arguing in bad faith. It doesn't matter. But anyway, I 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.280 don't want to talk about documentary in length because it's 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:11.720 not interesting enough to talk about. But was this a documentary? 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:13.680 Real quick? Is this the one where he like goes 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:18.079 to like quote unquote the country of Africa and asks people, yeah, 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:23.240 and poor translates extremely racist. Yeah, great to see J 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:27.720 K Rowling, like known non racist lining up. Yeah, like 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:30.960 behind these essentialist tropes of afric creator, the creator of 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:39.600 Kingsley shackle Bolt. Check. Yeah, just the most cringe. Yeah, 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:44.080 that's what we call a rich white woman moment um. Yes, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:47.480 all right, So but we are to talk about some 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.960 other things Matt Walt has been doing, specifically how he 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:56.839 has increased exterminationist rhetoric into his discussions around trans people. 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:02.559 So we're an open talking about de transitioners. So the 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:07.200 vast majority of real de transitions, which are very rare, like, 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.360 there's very few of them, especially considering there's already very 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.680 few numbers of trans people, but like something, Yeah, it's 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.520 it's it's very very few. Um but the vast majority 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.679 of people who do make the choice to de transition 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:26.880 are usually due to experiencing aggressive transphobia. Um. And and 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.600 the idea of the de transition or has been inflated 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.920 and used as a straw man to attack the trans 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:35.400 community just by and large, with with many documented cases 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.520 of turfs or far right activists creating like fake stalk 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:43.720 pop accounts pretending to be de transitioners to write horrifying 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.760 but fictional stories that that that happens a lot. There's 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.959 a really famous case on Reddit of an alleged de 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.760 transitioner who has found out to just be like an 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:57.559 alt right troll um. And this all really sucks because 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.960 the people who do de transition because they realize it's 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.840 just not for them, are generally pretty rad people who 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:07.320 continue to be very much pro trans because they do 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:11.120 understand the fluid nature of gender and gender expression through 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.080 this entire process. Like but and anyways, when quote tweeting 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.880 an alleged detransition or expressing regret of medical decisions that 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:23.160 they made, Matt Walsh said this quote, we can't just 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:27.120 oppose the transition of children. Yes, that's particularly evil, but 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.400 it's also evil to do it to anyone of any age. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.120 This young woman was nineteen, a legal adult when she 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:38.160 was mutilated. Does that make it okay? Obviously not. Put 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.080 it another way, it should be illegal for doctors to 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.240 do this to anyone of any age. It should be 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:49.040 illegal for anyone of any age to transition, period. So 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.560 this demonstrates the jump from no one's like that that 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.120 the rhetoric of no one should transition until they're an 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.280 adult to no one should be alloged to transition at all, 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.680 and came just as quickly as the trans community was 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.920 telling you it would. This this jump is not a 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:11.040 big one. It is very easy to say no no 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:16.760 hormones until you're eighteen to saying no no hormones at all, um. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.720 And that's that's what we're entering into. Walsh's rhetoric is 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:24.680 increasingly exterminationist, um and eliminationist, just saying that, like his 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.880 all of his preferred policies would result in the total 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:32.000 prohibition of trans identity and the criminalization of any gender 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:36.200 firm in care. Um. These people are fundamentally opposed to 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.360 having any agency of your own body, whether that's hormones, 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.760 whether that's aborsheit, right, Like, all of these people get 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.800 mad just when they see someone with colored hair, Like 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:50.240 they don't like someone's ability to have bodily autonomy. That's there, 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.560 that's one of their core politics. And you see this 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.320 a lot, especially when it comes to like trans men, 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.760 because there's this notion that there that their bodies exist 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.920 in service of CIS straight men, right, and anything that 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.920 gets in the way of that is an attack on 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:09.520 CIS men in general. And all a patriarchal society. It's 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.920 like very very very much like regular misogyny, but with 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:17.560 an added bonus of transphobia. Conservative activist Christopher Ruffo made 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.800 a tweet a few days ago with a picture of 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.440 Elliott Page pre transition, with the caption that says, this 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.080 is what they took from you, right, it's it's like 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:31.320 this notion that their bodies belong to you assists man, 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.840 and by them choosing to change their bodies as they 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:40.760 see fit, that's an attack on their body's access to you. Um, 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.760 it's it's, it's it's it redes a whole bunch of misogyny, 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.360 does it does a whole bunch of really bad transphobia. Um, 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.640 it's a really gross package, but it it it hits 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:54.040 on a lot of points of like this type of 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:59.080 patriarchal conservative brain. And I think this, this this even 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:04.119 carries out until like hatred of trans women as you know, 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.520 as trans women are seen as predators, so they hate 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:10.960 trans women to protect siss women, right, like you see, 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.960 it's all of this like possession, right it's it's it's 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.959 this possession of the body of a female, so you 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.840 need to protect it against the creepy trans women, right, 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.800 It's like it's it's all of this idea of like 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.520 owning women's bodies is central to a lot of these 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:30.280 ideas of transphobia. So we're gonna see a lot more 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.840 stuff about how it's going to change from no hormones, 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.919 no transition until you're eighteen, to no hormones, no transition 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.600 until you're twenty five, to no hormones, and no transition 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:42.879 at all. This past year, we've seen many proposed felony 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.159 healthcare bands for trans youth. Um said bills have passed 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.679 in multiple states like Alabama, which means that it's going 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:52.840 to forcibly de transition teens across the state. In Missouri, 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.240 there's a similar bill in the works titled the Save 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:59.520 Adolescence from Experimentation Act UM, which currently applies to individuals 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.360 younger than eight teen, but Missouri physicians and healthcare providers 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.400 under the bill would be prevented from recommending gender firming 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.920 care to patients who are under eighteen, and there's already 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:12.280 been discussion in legislative sessions to extend the bill past 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.480 the age of eighteen. While debating the bill, seeking to 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.280 restrict access to gender firm and care. Some lawmakers suggested 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.280 that the medical interventions like hormones be withheld from transgender 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.200 and non barinary individuals until they're twenty five years old, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.600 and during a public hearing for the House Bill to 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:35.679 six nine, a psychologist, Lorie Hayes testified that she believes 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.120 in adults under the age of twenty five are unable 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:42.600 to fully comprehend the traumatic and drastic and irreparable quote 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:45.800 unquote changes to their bodies that will they will undergo 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:49.120 if they receive gender affirming medical treatments like purity blockers 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:53.960 and hormone therapies. Also, while testifying, Hayes, Uh, the psychologist 0:18:54.119 --> 0:19:00.440 said that she supported conversion therapy. So that's surprising too, nobody, Uh, 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.840 or it shouldn't be. It also takes those people to 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.960 the point where they're not necessarily eligible for their parents healthcare, right, So, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.280 like I think twenty six is the time when you 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.680 can do your you age out. Yeah, so it's it's 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.760 again like it's a backdoor like prohibition on transitioning for 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.600 a lot of people. Yeah, yes, it's it's just trying 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.600 to stop it at all. It's you can't you can't 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:27.000 take their word for it. They just they just don't 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:30.440 want you around. That's it. Like they want you to 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.119 to kill yourself they or they want you just to 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:36.240 go away or not be tread like that's that's that's 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:40.439 what they want. It's obviously I'm going to do a 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:45.359 few just Journal of American Medical Associations found the gender 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.720 affirming healthcare include including puberty blockers and hormones between the 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:53.240 ages of thirteen and twenty, was associated with lower odds 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:57.280 of moderate or severe depression and sevent lower odds of suicidality. 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:00.639 Now they study published last year by the Trevor Project 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:04.280 found that among transgender non binary miners, hormone therapy associated 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:08.280 with nearly lower odds of recent depression and suicide attempts. 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.520 So they just want to ban the things that make 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.720 you more likely to live, right, They just don't want 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:20.840 you around. That's the actual message. So back back to 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.160 just kind of speaking of just not wanting you around. 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:28.679 Um that we're gonna do some updates on Protect Texas Kids. 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:34.760 The extremely open, extremely transphobic, openly Christian Fascists that their 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.960 words not mine group based in Texas who organized a 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:43.000 lot of events to harass either drag shows or harass 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:49.000 Pride events last month. It's leader Kelly Needered. I'm gonna 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.080 that's what I'm gonna say it, Um tweeted a few 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:55.760 weeks ago. Quote let's start rounding up people who participate 0:20:55.840 --> 0:21:00.800 in Pride events. Ha. I wonder what she means by that. 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:05.560 I wonder, I wonder what. I wonder what that means. 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:08.080 Surely doesn't mean she just wants to kill all gay people. 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:13.840 Oh oh, it does, okay, um. And another tweet from 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:18.120 the main Protect Texas Kids account was today's protest went well. 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.040 No children seemed to be in the dreg show, but 0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:24.040 there were a bunch of adults wearing mouse ears and 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:27.000 watching the men dressed up as Disney princesses dance around. 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:32.560 Totally normal and not weird. Right, So it's obviously not 0:21:32.600 --> 0:21:35.840 about protecting kids, right, Like, it's they that's not the focus. 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:38.000 That's not even that's not the focus of their tweet. 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:40.520 That's not the focus of what they want, right, Protecting 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:44.520 kids quote unquote is a cheap excuse just to want 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.840 to hate gay people and want gay people to go away. 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.560 That's that's all. That's all it is. We've been like, 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:55.400 it's we're kind of retrunning the same ground here. But man, 0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.320 it's it's so. It is still frustrating how many people 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:00.919 like fall for the bit it's not. It's not not 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.399 about protecting kids, not about saving kids from groomers. You 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:06.919 can look at all of the sexual abuse in Evangelical churches, 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:11.080 Catholic churches, it's Christian summer camps, whatever, it's not it's 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.639 not about protecting kids. They don't give a single fuck. 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:18.040 It's about wanting gay people to go away. Now. Both 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:21.960 Kelly Needers and protect Texas Kids accounts which they used 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.720 to organize their Christian fascist events. Both of those got 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:27.520 banned in mid June. Kelly has got banned for saying, 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:31.000 let's start rounding up people who participate in Pride events. 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:35.920 But this, this extends beyond Texas, extends beyond Twitter dot com. Right, 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:38.919 Obviously these people were just using Twitter to organize, so 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.399 it are already stended out into the real world. But 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:43.240 it's not, it's it's not. It's not just Texas either. 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:47.320 See I think it's A congressional candidate Mark Burns, who 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:51.160 is a pro Trump pastor, was running for South Carolina 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.639 House district. He called for the execution of LGBTQ and 0:22:55.640 --> 0:23:00.640 transpeople by using grooming rhetoric, and then he laid out 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:04.640 exactly how executions could legally be done. So this type 0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.720 of like state enforced the genocide. Let's let's play this. 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:13.280 Let's play a clip. The LGBT transgender grooming our children's 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:17.760 minds is a national security threat because it is ultimately 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:22.280 designed to destabilize the republic we called the United States 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:25.240 of America. That's why when I'm elected, I don't want 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:28.200 to just vote. I want to start holding people accountable 0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.840 for treason to the Constitution. I am going to push 0:23:31.880 --> 0:23:36.800 to reenact WHOAC. WHOAC is the House of an American 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:40.520 Activities Committee. It was a real committee that was formulated 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:43.000 back in the fifties, and it's a committee that we 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.400 should re enact that starts holding these people accountable for treason. 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:48.879 You need to hold people for treason, start having some 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:52.920 public hearings, and start executing people who are found guilty 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.960 for their treasonous acts against the Constitution of the United 0:23:56.960 --> 0:24:00.000 States of America, just like they did back in seven 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:05.080 Ta SI. You know what, South Carolina, this is our guy. 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.880 That was an amazing the way he misspoke and called 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:14.080 it the House of an American activities. It's like a 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:22.760 fun place. So that's not ideal, is it? Of that 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:26.560 kind of sucks. Yeah, that was really out there. He's 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:31.600 yeah side advocating. It's just it's just it's mainstream. It's 0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:36.920 trying they're trying to mainstream the political ability to advocate genocide, right, 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:39.560 and some of them, it's not some of them, it's 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:42.399 not fully catching on yet. Right, it's we're on the 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.280 on ramp to this um. The South Carolina pastor was 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:50.800 defeated by the incumbent Representative William Timmins in the GOP 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:55.280 primary for the state's fourth congressional district, but Pastor Mark 0:24:55.320 --> 0:25:00.840 Burne's still received of the vote, So that's still a 0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:02.840 lot of people. It's still a lot of people voting 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:07.600 for that, and that number, I don't think it's gonna shrink. Yeah, 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:09.480 and like and it's also it's also worth doing that, 0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:13.520 like everyone loses him, Like it is so unbelievably hard 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:17.680 to beat the incumbents in primary. Like it's just it's yeah, 0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:21.399 so like like even even if he was just a 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:24.080 normal guy with like regular politics, you would have lost 0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:28.159 the election. So still, yes, it's not actually a referendum 0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:30.639 on his popularity, like the popularity of what you're saying, 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:36.040 it's of the vote. Yeah, it's worth noting that. Like 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.639 even here in southern California, right where it's supposedly like 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:42.639 very liberal, we had a candidate for sheriff's office who 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.800 is that was a deputy city attorney and was endorsed 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:50.720 by the Union Tribune just openly spewing like transphobic groom 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:55.800 and stuff. Yeah, public meetings and getting endorsed by the 0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.399 local newspaper. They was rescinded their endorsement later. But this 0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.120 isn't just like a red eight thing. If people think 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.320 that that is that No, that's obviously that'd be a 0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.800 lot more common the people who run for sheriff, who 0:26:05.840 --> 0:26:12.560 generally tend to be more conservative because they're running for sheriff. Um. True. 0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.000 All right, well, let's let's have an add break and 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:20.359 then we'll come back to talk about Wait, talk about 0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:25.760 Roe v. Wade and the attack on future rights, including 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.480 the ability to have same sex relationships. Oh wow, what 0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:40.600