1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Welcome to it could happen here the podcast that's increasingly 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: about things that are actually kind of already happening of 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: and today it's gonna be it's gonna be one of those. 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: And we're talking about in the kind of the uptick 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: in rhetoric around queer exterminationism that's happened. Most of the 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: stuff is what this is discussions and legislative proposal and 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: rhetoric that was really kicked off last month during Pride months, 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: specifically because of the Rovy Wade ruling that really opened 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: the door on a few not good possibilities. Um. But 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: because we're gonna be talking about some more grim stuff today, 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna open with something slightly more funny. UM. 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: And that's a friend of the pod, Dr Jordan B. Peterson. UM. 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: Now with with me today is it's Chris and James Greetings. 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: So Peterson he got he got really mad at Elliott Page. 15 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: Um and now does not really have a Twitter account. 16 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: And it's pretty funny. Uh. And a few days after 17 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: he was banned for continuing to miss gender Elliott Page, 18 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: he released a video that can only be described as 19 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: a super villain monologue. UM as as a part of 20 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: his new partnership with Daily Wire Plus, the hit new 21 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: streaming service. Um and just because I think it's funny, 22 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: We're just gonna We're just gonna play a few clips 23 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: of of this of this evil super villain monologue because 24 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: it's really funny, and then it'll circle back to kind 25 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: of our topic towards the end. So Ah speaking speaking 26 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: a friend of the pod, Peterson, here's here's our here's 27 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: our one of the clips. That's you've probably already heard 28 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: if you're if you're terminally online, but it's incredible funny. 29 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: If I'm required to acknowledge that my tweet violated the 30 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: Twitter rules, what rules? You sons of bitches? Good old, 31 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: good old Peter said. You know the thing, I've always 32 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: been sort of like that clip in particular, It's like, 33 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if I was trying, I don't know 34 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: if I could emulate just the it's sounding like you've 35 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: edited together sixteen clips. If you my tweet violated the 36 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: Twitter rules, it's like it's his speech pattern is so bizarre. 37 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: And also like in the in the video was like 38 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: nine minutes long. Like Proceding that line, he explained what 39 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: rule he broke around miss gendering and harassment. So like 40 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: he explained the exact rule. Ah, but we always get more, 41 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: Peter said, if you ask for it, up yours woke moralists, 42 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: we'll see who cancels who like extremely funny. He's actually 43 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: sneering as well. If you watch the video, like, yeah 44 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: he is, he's he's going all in on the bit. 45 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: He's doing like Ozzy Mandius but hammed up. It's it's 46 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: frankly impressive. This is this one's also also a decent one. 47 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: I am employing this awkward and impossible naming style because 48 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: it is now apparently mandatory and and probably doing it wrong. Nonetheless, 49 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: as you're doing it wrong is the whole point of 50 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: what has been made mandatory. But also I'm trying to 51 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: make a point. I've essentially been banned from Twitter as 52 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: a consequence. I say banned, although technically I have been suspended, 53 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: but the suspension will not be lifted unless I delete 54 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: the hateful tweet in question, and I would rather die 55 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: than do that. That means that you have a healthy 56 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: relationship to the platform of Twitter. Um. There's also this 57 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: this great clip of him talking about like I'm actually happy, 58 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: how my Twitter account is gone. Now Twitter is insignificant 59 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: in the final analysis, and you're like, what the fund 60 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: does that mean? What? What fun What final analysis are 61 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: you talking about? What do you what do you mean? 62 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: The final analysis analysis of what? Like? What is? Oh, 63 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty funny. There's there's two more clips from 64 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: this rent that I want to do, which kind of 65 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: are going to get more to the heart of our 66 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: issue today. Um, they're they're not great. They actually are 67 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: kind of they kind of suck. So, without further ado, 68 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: here's their good doctor friend. And finally, with regard to 69 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: the final phrase criminal physician, I must say that I've 70 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: had some post coital, so to speak, regrets about that phrase. 71 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: It is clearly the case that the surgical operation performed 72 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: by the butchers who butchered Elliott slash Ellen was legal, 73 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: So was it criminal or not? Were the operations undertaken 74 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: by the fascist physicians who carried out the Nazi medical 75 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: experiments legal Yes, under the laws of the time, But 76 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: were they criminal? I'll leave that question up to you 77 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: to answer. So that's pretty gross for a lot of reasons. Um. One, 78 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: the kind of historical context of using nazis too compare 79 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: to your own transphobia is a little dicey when you 80 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: consider how with the Nazis did to trans people into 81 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: like queer books, Like, yeah, he's advocating for the Nazi 82 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: position here. Yeah. Yeah. There's been so many bands on 83 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: queer books this Like just in the past two years, Uh, 84 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: the Library Association tracked almost six books that were challenged, 85 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: in the highest number since the organization began tracking book 86 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: bands in the past twenty years. So talk talking about 87 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: like the Nazi scientists, they're like you like you have 88 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: is his his historical context of obviously is incredibly lacking, 89 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: or he's just or he's just a grifter. I think, honestly, 90 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: he's just kind of I think he's just kind of 91 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: lost it. I think I don't even think he's fully 92 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: a grifter. I think he's just kind of not understanding 93 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: what's going on anymore. Of because you can watch like 94 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: interviews and stuff where people can try to use reasoning 95 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: and logic with him, and you can watch his brain 96 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: start to process it. But it's just like otherwise, he 97 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: just doesn't think in any sort of logical manner, put 98 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: his words or his like stream of consciousness into any 99 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: historical context. He just says what he wants, and he's 100 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: used to people just taking that as a fact. Um, 101 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: he's used to like regurgitating bad Joseph Campbell and people 102 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, you sound smart, would know he's 103 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: actually not he's um, but man, it's it's yeah. The 104 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: whole Germany Nazi scientist experimentation thing is incredibly incredibly frustrating. Um. 105 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: I I don't even know what else to like say 106 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: about a say about that, because I mean even that 107 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: that line, you can focus on it for a while, 108 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: like compare how like the history of medical documentation of 109 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: like transnis and the Nazis. How that's like such a 110 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: big thing is that the Nazis destroyed so much medical 111 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: research on gender transitions, losing like like decades and decades 112 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: of research that we're only now starting to regain incredib 113 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: cred of the grass. But there's this one one, one 114 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 1: last one last clip. I wanted to play of of 115 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: of our of our good doctor and are we degenerate, 116 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, profoundly threatening manner. I think the answer to 117 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: that may well be yes. So that's not great. He 118 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: really is just advocating for the Natty position every turn, 119 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: Like yes, he's just continuing to advocate for fascistic reasoning 120 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: of fascistic views of decadence and degeneracy insomuch as it 121 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: is a threat to civilization and a threat to Western society. 122 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: And then he goes on in this clip to justify 123 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: Russia's invasion of Ukraine because the US is helping Ukraine, 124 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: which makes Ukraine degenerate by proxy, So Russia is doing 125 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: a war on degeneracy. And that's like, that's his arguments, Like, 126 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: that's his level of logical reacting. Yeah, which which is 127 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: funny because it's like if you ever heard any of 128 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: the like ready, because every once in a while, there 129 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: will be video clips of just like Ukrainian Russian soldiers 130 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: yelling at each other and it's just both of them 131 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: calling each other gay over and over again. It's just like, 132 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: really like this bring back that level of discourse to America. Well, Um, 133 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and then we will 134 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: come back to talk about our other really close friend 135 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: of the pod, Matthew Walsh, So stay stay tuned for that. God, Okay, 136 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: I have I have one question for everyone here. Um 137 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: what what how? How? Woman? What? What is what is 138 00:09:54,160 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: that featherless, biped Okay, the whole a woman. So when 139 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about Matt Walsh, U obviously last month he 140 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: released uh, a pretty poorly made transphobic documentary that was 141 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: jacsically just a clipse of him getting owned by like 142 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: actual doctors for not understanding like basic ontology and medical reasoning. Um. 143 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: The documentary was just uh. Other friend of the pol 144 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: JK Rolling just expressed support for the documentary. So if 145 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: that's if that's on an indicator that like turfism is 146 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: just like a direct preamble to open fascism, I don't 147 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: know what is because I mean Matt Matt Walsh jokingly 148 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: describes himself as a fascist, but that's because his his 149 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: beliefs actually are fascistic. Like he said, it's one of 150 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: those jokes that only is funny because everyone agrees on 151 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: the central premise, like it's it's that, it's that it's 152 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: that type of humor. Um. So like J. K. Rowling 153 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: just endorsing an open fascist. So I'm not going to 154 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: talk about the documentary in depth here because it's not 155 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: that good and it doesn't really make any points that 156 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: need to be refuted. It it talks about how like 157 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: It talks about how how puberty blockers are um sterilization 158 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: uh drugs, which is not the case long term when 159 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: you're on them, Yes, you cannot. You cannot do that 160 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: because it's obviously inhibiting your your hormones. But once you 161 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: go off puberty blockers, you can procreate again, which which 162 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: also I just want to take a second here to 163 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: look at this position, which is that, Okay, so puberty 164 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: blockers are sterilization things, right, I like, okay, so this 165 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: is their arguments and sterilization, right, Who are you giving 166 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: puberty blockers to children? Why the fuck do you care 167 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: like children? It's like wait, I mean they arguing it's 168 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 1: like that, but it'll make them, It'll make them permanently sterilized, 169 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: Like like you're castrating these kids by giving them pumanity blockers, 170 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: which no, that's not how that works. You're you're just 171 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 1: arguing in bad faith. It doesn't matter. But anyway, I 172 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about documentary in length because it's 173 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: not interesting enough to talk about. But was this a documentary? 174 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: Real quick? Is this the one where he like goes 175 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: to like quote unquote the country of Africa and asks people, yeah, 176 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: and poor translates extremely racist. Yeah, great to see J 177 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: K Rowling, like known non racist lining up. Yeah, like 178 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: behind these essentialist tropes of afric creator, the creator of 179 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Kingsley shackle Bolt. Check. Yeah, just the most cringe. Yeah, 180 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: that's what we call a rich white woman moment um. Yes, 181 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: all right, So but we are to talk about some 182 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: other things Matt Walt has been doing, specifically how he 183 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: has increased exterminationist rhetoric into his discussions around trans people. 184 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: So we're an open talking about de transitioners. So the 185 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: vast majority of real de transitions, which are very rare, like, 186 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: there's very few of them, especially considering there's already very 187 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: few numbers of trans people, but like something, Yeah, it's 188 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: it's it's very very few. Um but the vast majority 189 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: of people who do make the choice to de transition 190 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: are usually due to experiencing aggressive transphobia. Um. And and 191 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: the idea of the de transition or has been inflated 192 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: and used as a straw man to attack the trans 193 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: community just by and large, with with many documented cases 194 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: of turfs or far right activists creating like fake stalk 195 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: pop accounts pretending to be de transitioners to write horrifying 196 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: but fictional stories that that that happens a lot. There's 197 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: a really famous case on Reddit of an alleged de 198 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: transitioner who has found out to just be like an 199 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: alt right troll um. And this all really sucks because 200 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: the people who do de transition because they realize it's 201 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: just not for them, are generally pretty rad people who 202 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: continue to be very much pro trans because they do 203 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: understand the fluid nature of gender and gender expression through 204 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: this entire process. Like but and anyways, when quote tweeting 205 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: an alleged detransition or expressing regret of medical decisions that 206 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: they made, Matt Walsh said this quote, we can't just 207 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: oppose the transition of children. Yes, that's particularly evil, but 208 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: it's also evil to do it to anyone of any age. 209 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: This young woman was nineteen, a legal adult when she 210 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: was mutilated. Does that make it okay? Obviously not. Put 211 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: it another way, it should be illegal for doctors to 212 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: do this to anyone of any age. It should be 213 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: illegal for anyone of any age to transition, period. So 214 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: this demonstrates the jump from no one's like that that 215 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: the rhetoric of no one should transition until they're an 216 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: adult to no one should be alloged to transition at all, 217 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: and came just as quickly as the trans community was 218 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: telling you it would. This this jump is not a 219 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: big one. It is very easy to say no no 220 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: hormones until you're eighteen to saying no no hormones at all, um. 221 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: And that's that's what we're entering into. Walsh's rhetoric is 222 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: increasingly exterminationist, um and eliminationist, just saying that, like his 223 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: all of his preferred policies would result in the total 224 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: prohibition of trans identity and the criminalization of any gender 225 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: firm in care. Um. These people are fundamentally opposed to 226 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: having any agency of your own body, whether that's hormones, 227 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: whether that's aborsheit, right, Like, all of these people get 228 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: mad just when they see someone with colored hair, Like 229 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: they don't like someone's ability to have bodily autonomy. That's there, 230 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: that's one of their core politics. And you see this 231 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: a lot, especially when it comes to like trans men, 232 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: because there's this notion that there that their bodies exist 233 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: in service of CIS straight men, right, and anything that 234 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: gets in the way of that is an attack on 235 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: CIS men in general. And all a patriarchal society. It's 236 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: like very very very much like regular misogyny, but with 237 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: an added bonus of transphobia. Conservative activist Christopher Ruffo made 238 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: a tweet a few days ago with a picture of 239 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: Elliott Page pre transition, with the caption that says, this 240 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: is what they took from you, right, it's it's like 241 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: this notion that their bodies belong to you assists man, 242 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: and by them choosing to change their bodies as they 243 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: see fit, that's an attack on their body's access to you. Um, 244 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: it's it's, it's it's it redes a whole bunch of misogyny, 245 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: does it does a whole bunch of really bad transphobia. Um, 246 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: it's a really gross package, but it it it hits 247 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: on a lot of points of like this type of 248 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: patriarchal conservative brain. And I think this, this this even 249 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: carries out until like hatred of trans women as you know, 250 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: as trans women are seen as predators, so they hate 251 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: trans women to protect siss women, right, like you see, 252 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: it's all of this like possession, right it's it's it's 253 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 1: this possession of the body of a female, so you 254 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: need to protect it against the creepy trans women, right, 255 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: It's like it's it's all of this idea of like 256 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: owning women's bodies is central to a lot of these 257 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: ideas of transphobia. So we're gonna see a lot more 258 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: stuff about how it's going to change from no hormones, 259 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: no transition until you're eighteen, to no hormones, no transition 260 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: until you're twenty five, to no hormones, and no transition 261 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: at all. This past year, we've seen many proposed felony 262 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: healthcare bands for trans youth. Um said bills have passed 263 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: in multiple states like Alabama, which means that it's going 264 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: to forcibly de transition teens across the state. In Missouri, 265 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: there's a similar bill in the works titled the Save 266 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: Adolescence from Experimentation Act UM, which currently applies to individuals 267 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: younger than eight teen, but Missouri physicians and healthcare providers 268 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: under the bill would be prevented from recommending gender firming 269 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: care to patients who are under eighteen, and there's already 270 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: been discussion in legislative sessions to extend the bill past 271 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: the age of eighteen. While debating the bill, seeking to 272 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: restrict access to gender firm and care. Some lawmakers suggested 273 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: that the medical interventions like hormones be withheld from transgender 274 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: and non barinary individuals until they're twenty five years old, 275 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: and during a public hearing for the House Bill to 276 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: six nine, a psychologist, Lorie Hayes testified that she believes 277 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 1: in adults under the age of twenty five are unable 278 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: to fully comprehend the traumatic and drastic and irreparable quote 279 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: unquote changes to their bodies that will they will undergo 280 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: if they receive gender affirming medical treatments like purity blockers 281 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: and hormone therapies. Also, while testifying, Hayes, Uh, the psychologist 282 00:18:54,119 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: said that she supported conversion therapy. So that's surprising too, nobody, Uh, 283 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: or it shouldn't be. It also takes those people to 284 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: the point where they're not necessarily eligible for their parents healthcare, right, So, 285 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: like I think twenty six is the time when you 286 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: can do your you age out. Yeah, so it's it's 287 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: again like it's a backdoor like prohibition on transitioning for 288 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people. Yeah, yes, it's it's just trying 289 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: to stop it at all. It's you can't you can't 290 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: take their word for it. They just they just don't 291 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: want you around. That's it. Like they want you to 292 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: to kill yourself they or they want you just to 293 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: go away or not be tread like that's that's that's 294 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: what they want. It's obviously I'm going to do a 295 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: few just Journal of American Medical Associations found the gender 296 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: affirming healthcare include including puberty blockers and hormones between the 297 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: ages of thirteen and twenty, was associated with lower odds 298 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: of moderate or severe depression and sevent lower odds of suicidality. 299 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: Now they study published last year by the Trevor Project 300 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: found that among transgender non binary miners, hormone therapy associated 301 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: with nearly lower odds of recent depression and suicide attempts. 302 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: So they just want to ban the things that make 303 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: you more likely to live, right, They just don't want 304 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: you around. That's the actual message. So back back to 305 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: just kind of speaking of just not wanting you around. 306 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: Um that we're gonna do some updates on Protect Texas Kids. 307 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: The extremely open, extremely transphobic, openly Christian Fascists that their 308 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: words not mine group based in Texas who organized a 309 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: lot of events to harass either drag shows or harass 310 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Pride events last month. It's leader Kelly Needered. I'm gonna 311 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna say it, Um tweeted a few 312 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Quote let's start rounding up people who participate 313 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: in Pride events. Ha. I wonder what she means by that. 314 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder what. I wonder what that means. 315 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: Surely doesn't mean she just wants to kill all gay people. 316 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: Oh oh, it does, okay, um. And another tweet from 317 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: the main Protect Texas Kids account was today's protest went well. 318 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: No children seemed to be in the dreg show, but 319 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: there were a bunch of adults wearing mouse ears and 320 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: watching the men dressed up as Disney princesses dance around. 321 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: Totally normal and not weird. Right, So it's obviously not 322 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: about protecting kids, right, Like, it's they that's not the focus. 323 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: That's not even that's not the focus of their tweet. 324 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: That's not the focus of what they want, right, Protecting 325 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: kids quote unquote is a cheap excuse just to want 326 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: to hate gay people and want gay people to go away. 327 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: That's that's all. That's all it is. We've been like, 328 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: it's we're kind of retrunning the same ground here. But man, 329 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: it's it's so. It is still frustrating how many people 330 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: like fall for the bit it's not. It's not not 331 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: about protecting kids, not about saving kids from groomers. You 332 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: can look at all of the sexual abuse in Evangelical churches, 333 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: Catholic churches, it's Christian summer camps, whatever, it's not it's 334 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: not about protecting kids. They don't give a single fuck. 335 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: It's about wanting gay people to go away. Now. Both 336 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: Kelly Needers and protect Texas Kids accounts which they used 337 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: to organize their Christian fascist events. Both of those got 338 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: banned in mid June. Kelly has got banned for saying, 339 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: let's start rounding up people who participate in Pride events. 340 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: But this, this extends beyond Texas, extends beyond Twitter dot com. Right, 341 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: Obviously these people were just using Twitter to organize, so 342 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: it are already stended out into the real world. But 343 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: it's not, it's it's not. It's not just Texas either. 344 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: See I think it's A congressional candidate Mark Burns, who 345 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: is a pro Trump pastor, was running for South Carolina 346 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: House district. He called for the execution of LGBTQ and 347 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: transpeople by using grooming rhetoric, and then he laid out 348 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: exactly how executions could legally be done. So this type 349 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: of like state enforced the genocide. Let's let's play this. 350 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: Let's play a clip. The LGBT transgender grooming our children's 351 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: minds is a national security threat because it is ultimately 352 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: designed to destabilize the republic we called the United States 353 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: of America. That's why when I'm elected, I don't want 354 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: to just vote. I want to start holding people accountable 355 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: for treason to the Constitution. I am going to push 356 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: to reenact WHOAC. WHOAC is the House of an American 357 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: Activities Committee. It was a real committee that was formulated 358 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: back in the fifties, and it's a committee that we 359 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: should re enact that starts holding these people accountable for treason. 360 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: You need to hold people for treason, start having some 361 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: public hearings, and start executing people who are found guilty 362 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: for their treasonous acts against the Constitution of the United 363 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: States of America, just like they did back in seven 364 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: Ta SI. You know what, South Carolina, this is our guy. 365 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: That was an amazing the way he misspoke and called 366 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: it the House of an American activities. It's like a 367 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: fun place. So that's not ideal, is it? Of that 368 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: kind of sucks. Yeah, that was really out there. He's 369 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: yeah side advocating. It's just it's just it's mainstream. It's 370 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: trying they're trying to mainstream the political ability to advocate genocide, right, 371 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: and some of them, it's not some of them, it's 372 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: not fully catching on yet. Right, it's we're on the 373 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: on ramp to this um. The South Carolina pastor was 374 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: defeated by the incumbent Representative William Timmins in the GOP 375 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: primary for the state's fourth congressional district, but Pastor Mark 376 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: Burne's still received of the vote, So that's still a 377 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: lot of people. It's still a lot of people voting 378 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: for that, and that number, I don't think it's gonna shrink. Yeah, 379 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: and like and it's also it's also worth doing that, 380 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: like everyone loses him, Like it is so unbelievably hard 381 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: to beat the incumbents in primary. Like it's just it's yeah, 382 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: so like like even even if he was just a 383 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: normal guy with like regular politics, you would have lost 384 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: the election. So still, yes, it's not actually a referendum 385 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: on his popularity, like the popularity of what you're saying, 386 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: it's of the vote. Yeah, it's worth noting that. Like 387 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: even here in southern California, right where it's supposedly like 388 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: very liberal, we had a candidate for sheriff's office who 389 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: is that was a deputy city attorney and was endorsed 390 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: by the Union Tribune just openly spewing like transphobic groom 391 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, public meetings and getting endorsed by the 392 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: local newspaper. They was rescinded their endorsement later. But this 393 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: isn't just like a red eight thing. If people think 394 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: that that is that No, that's obviously that'd be a 395 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: lot more common the people who run for sheriff, who 396 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: generally tend to be more conservative because they're running for sheriff. Um. True. 397 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: All right, well, let's let's have an add break and 398 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: then we'll come back to talk about Wait, talk about 399 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade and the attack on future rights, including 400 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: the ability to have same sex relationships. Oh wow, what 401 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: a fun time we have today. All right, we are 402 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: we are back. So after the Supreme Court overturned to 403 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 1: rov Wade last month, there was an immediate push for 404 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: anti gain, anti trans legal challenges using the same legal 405 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: logic against the right to privacy based off of the 406 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: the traditions deeply rooted in our nation's history quote unquote, 407 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: So this was like undoubtedly gonna happen, right, We've been 408 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: We've been proposing that this was a possibility for a while, 409 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: but it was definitely made worse by Justice Clarence Thomas, 410 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: front of the POD, who argued in a concurring opinion 411 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: that the Supreme Court should quote reconsider its past rulings 412 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: codifying rights such as the right to use contraception, the 413 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: right to have a same sex relationship, and same sex marriage. 414 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: Invoking Griswold, Lawrence and Oberfeld, three cases having to do 415 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: with americans fundamental right to privacy, due process, and equal protection, 416 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Thomas wrote, quote, we have a duty to correct the 417 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: error regarding these established in those precedents, which pretty grim, 418 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: pretty grim framing there, because that's a bad sign um, 419 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: and we are already seeing stuff like this in effect. 420 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: Actually we don't need to wait for the Supreme Court 421 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: to make rulings. States that are starting to do this 422 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: exact thing um In an ongoing Alabama lawsuit that's sites 423 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: dabs over turning Roe v Wade about medically detransitioning all 424 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: trans teenagers. There is this deeply threatening turn of phrase quote, 425 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: no one adult or child has the right to transitioning 426 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: treatments not deeply rooted in our nation's history and tradition. 427 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: Ha ha, interesting how they put adult or child there 428 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: isn't that isn't that intriguing? And it's also fun how 429 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: the deeply red our nation's history thing is now just 430 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: sort of like here here is the word that you 431 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: say to let you do fascism, And it's like, oh, hey, 432 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: do you know what? It is deeply rooted in our 433 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: in our nation's uh traditional history, shooting congressman. This is 434 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: the thing that has been done many times, Like I 435 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: mean again, like like this it's like this is this 436 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: is the whole like this whole thing. It's just like 437 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: it's it's so the whole thing is it's so incredibly 438 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: sort of nakedly transparent and cynical and like this is 439 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a centerd fascist thing. Right. We're 440 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: like we're going to create some sort of mythical past 441 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna like resurrect whatever fucking things existed 442 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: back then. It's like, oh, hey, what actually existed back then? 443 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. People try to kill the government all 444 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: the time. They're really they're really playing from like the 445 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: lower key s T traditionalist framework here. Um, they're they're 446 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: doing all the bits we thought they would do. It's 447 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: not great. Uh. Late last month, during the end of Pride, 448 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: Texas Republican Party unveiled its updated official position on lgbt 449 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: Q issues, defining homosexuality as quote an abnormal lifestyle choice unquote, 450 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: and also opposing quote all efforts to validate transgender identity. 451 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: The party's new official stance on lgbt Q issues wasn't 452 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: veiled during Pride month, and as advocates fight against record 453 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: number of anti lgbt Q bills introduced in states across 454 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: the country this year, more than three hundred and forty bills, 455 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: according to the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest lgbt 456 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: Q advocacy group on the legal front. Thousands of Republican 457 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: activists met at the party's biennial convention in Houston in 458 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: mid June to agree to the party's platform on a 459 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: range of issues, including the rejection of the election results 460 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: and a call to a repeal the nineteen Voting Rights Act, 461 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: which was an acted to prevent discrimination against black voters. Ah, 462 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: this is I would say this is a mask off moment, 463 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: but they've never had the mask on in the first 464 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: People like, that's that's like that that's specific one. That 465 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: is a thing, like like half of the Republican Party's 466 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: platform has been people suing about the Voting Rights Act 467 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: exact exactly. It's not actually a mask off, it's just 468 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: that they're doing it louder than they were doing it before. 469 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: The section titled Homosexuality and Gender Issues UM had the 470 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: party stating that LGBTQ people should have no legal protection 471 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: from discrimination and in fact suggested intent to ensure people's 472 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: ability to do hate speech and hate crimes. Part of 473 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: the forty page resolution reads, quote, homosexuality is an abnormal 474 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: lifestyle choice. We believe there should be no granting of 475 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, 476 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: regardless of state of origin. And we oppose any criminal 477 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, 478 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: or belief in traditional values. Ham I just I just 479 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: want to put it on the record here that like 480 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: the number of a number of my friends who have 481 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: been attacked like in the last three months. Is it's 482 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: a lot. I got, I got called, I got, I 483 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: got called a faggot for the first time in the 484 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: Straits of Portland a few months ago. It's it's it's, it's, 485 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's accelerating, it's it's going, it's it's it's going. Um. 486 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, specifically, I think a lot of 487 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: this the last part of that resolution there about you know, 488 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: opposing any civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out 489 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: of faith. I think that's that's probably definite, referencing Steadfast 490 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: Baptist Church, the church that just opens that openly advocates 491 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: the genocide of queer people, which we've talked about in 492 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: our in our last City of Hate episode. I think 493 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: I think they're also trying to go back to like 494 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: the whole like cake bullshit thing. Oh yeah, obviously stuff 495 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: like that. It's like, it's we, honestly, we are so 496 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: past the cake problem now because now they just want 497 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: to they just wanted to like mass, they just want 498 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: to do mass. Gend a side like I'm so over cakes. 499 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: Like and in the trend of increasing the age barrier, 500 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: of gender affirming healthcare into adulthood. The Texas Republicans called 501 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: for the ban of gender affirming healthcare, including the distribution 502 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: of huberty blockers or hormones supressing therapies and the h 503 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: and the performance of gender affirming surgeries to anyone under 504 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: the age of twenty one. So that is the new 505 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: Texas Republican official position is that these things should be banned, 506 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: uh for under the edge of twenty one. And that's 507 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: not a that's not a hard cap. They're gonna keep 508 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: raising that cap as often as they can. And as proof, 509 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: I will offer up the past thirty five minutes an episode, 510 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: like everything we've said in the past thirty five minutes 511 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,239 Speaker 1: is supporting the opinion that that cap they wanted to 512 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: go up. Yeah. Usual. They also simultaneously advocate for like 513 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: heterosexual relationship age of consent to just dromp oh yeah, 514 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: twelve years old. Yeah um. Speaking of speaking of Texas. 515 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: Near the end of June, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, 516 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: who sent us office home in the celebration of the 517 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: overturning of Roe v. Wade, said that he will defend 518 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: Texas anti sodomy law. It's a Supreme Court re visits 519 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: Lawrence view Texas. I'm gonna play extremely frustrating clip here. 520 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: Here's a fun time. I'm sure you read uh Justice 521 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: Thomas's concurrence where he said that there were a number 522 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: of other of these issues Grizzwald, uh Lawrence and Ogofell 523 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: that he felt needs to be looked at again. Obviously, 524 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: the Lawrence case came from Texas, that was what outlawed sodomy. 525 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,479 Speaker 1: Would you, as attorney general be comfortable defending a law 526 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: that once again outlawed sodomy that questioned Lawrence again, or 527 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: Griswold or gay marriage that came from the state legislature 528 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: to to put to the test with Justice Thomas said, yeah, 529 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: I mean, there's all kinds of issues here, but certainly 530 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court has stepped into issues that I don't 531 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: think there was any constitutional provision dealing with. They were 532 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: legislative issues, and this is one of those issues, and 533 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: there may be more. So it would depend on the 534 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: issue and depending on what state law has says at 535 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: the time, And just just for the sake of time here, 536 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: you wouldn't rule out that if the state legislature passed 537 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: the exact same law that that lawrence overturned on sodomy. 538 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: You wouldn't have any problem then defending that and take 539 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: in that case back to the Supreme Court. Yeah. Look, 540 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: my job is a defense fate law and I'll continue 541 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: to do that. That is my job out of the Constitution, 542 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: and I'm so First of all, in this clip of 543 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: Ken Paxton, he looks like a zombie. I don't know 544 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: what's going on with his face, but his eye keeps 545 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: twitching in a way that looks really uncaddy. He looks 546 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: like he like, look at look at this man's face. 547 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: Look at what is going on. That's an unfortunate pause. No, 548 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: he looks aget in motion too. It's not a unfortunate plause. 549 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: He just looks. There is something going wrong with Ken Paxton. 550 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: We need to to the bottom of this. But also 551 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: all of that stuff about make enforcing laws against uh 552 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: sodom me, making gay sex illegal. They don't want gay 553 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: people to fuck, is what they're actually saying. Um. And 554 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: if you do, they want to send you to jail. Um. 555 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: So that's something that can fact and what's what's to do? Um? 556 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: Wrapped in very flowery language about defending the laws on 557 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: record that laws that you are enforcing. Therefore you're making 558 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: the laws in effect. Um ha. So one one aspect 559 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: of this that I want to touch on again before 560 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: we close out in our in Our City of Hate 561 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: episodes about the Christian fascists in Dallas attacking drag shows 562 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: and Steadfast Baptist Church, and even then some of the 563 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: stuff that we've gone over in this episode. Right, there's 564 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about like government approved extermination um, 565 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: whether that be like for treason, for un American acts, 566 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: executions based off Biblical law, rounding up people for degenerate 567 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: or deviant behavior, arresting doctors for performing gender affirming surgeries. 568 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of like talk around like the 569 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: government's ability to legally genocide people. Um. But the other 570 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: aspect of this is like the vigilante justice ankle of 571 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: people wanting to just do physical violence themselves. And there's 572 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: a way that these two things can intersect in a 573 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: really interesting way. I'm gonna play one one last clip here. 574 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: You know some teachers pushing sex values on your third grader. 575 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: Why aren't you going to thrash the teacher talk to 576 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: an orongal person's kids about sex in kindergarten, you get 577 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: beaten up, you should be beating up. Please. If I 578 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: was a parent and my fifth grade daughter had had 579 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: to sleep and shower in some kind of cabin at 580 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: some summer camp that I paid money to send my 581 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: child to, and there was a man calling himself a 582 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: woman sleeping in her cabin, my husband would have beat 583 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: him into the ground. Where are the men actually standing 584 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: up against these men who think they are women that 585 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: are trying to compete in these females. Sports shouldn't put 586 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: up with it anymore. You need to intervene. You need 587 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: to show up to the sporting a man like this 588 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: is not happening. Actually, there is almost nothing that can 589 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: be done. Uh that is uh, that is over the 590 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: line to stop that. It's disgusting. There was a time 591 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: in this country of just a little more decency where 592 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: if someone even voiced the idea of taking your kid 593 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 1: to a drag show to be arrested. They are underqualified 594 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: to have children. They should have their children taken away 595 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: from them because it's child abuse. So that's a lot 596 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,479 Speaker 1: of stuff, but rent you know, it fluctuates between talking 597 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: about people taking this into their own hands in a 598 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: very like obviously like misogynistic and transphobic way. Again, it's 599 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: about like the access to you know, protecting access to 600 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: the feminine body. Um. And then a lot of other 601 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: stuff around you know, the government arrested people and such. Right, 602 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: it's about it. It's a mix between like doing stuffy yourself, 603 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, in a form of like the vigilante is 604 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: um um or you know, eventually advocating for the for 605 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: the government's ability to do this. Now, we we've covered 606 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: a number of incidents of like a violence or of 607 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: things that that were escalating to the point of that 608 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: right before it stopped. UM. Across you know, the Dallas area, 609 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: we talked about stuff in Boise, Idaho with Patriot Front. 610 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: We talked about the Proud Boys who stormed the library 611 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: outside of San Francisco. UM. I think those are in 612 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: our in our I think I talked about most of 613 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: those across a few of the city of eight episodes. UM. 614 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: Then we have uh, there's but there there is other 615 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: incidents outside of just those cities. UM. In Atlanta, a 616 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: youth justice group was forced to cancel their rally in 617 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: support of trans rights after an organizer received a specific 618 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: quote vulgar death threat in Calama, Washington, a school was 619 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: put on lockdown after an anti transit student threatened a 620 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: mass shooting following a broad student walkout in support of 621 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: a trans classmate who had been assaulted. UM people graffited 622 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: pervs work here on an elementary school in Venture County, California, 623 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: following a local right wing papers story about a third 624 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: grade teacher who affirmed a trans students name and pronouns 625 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: in the lead up to Pride Month, and anti LGBTQ 626 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: activist named Ethan Schmidt Crockett vowed to hunt gay people 627 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: and trans people and their allies at Target stores. UM 628 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: following the story's decision to celebrate Pride, he made the 629 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: same threat a month before. In June, he attended the 630 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: counter protest of a pro gun control March for Our 631 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: Lives demonstration carrying an a R fifteen. In Kiel, Wisconsin, 632 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: schools are forced to shut down and go virtual after 633 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: bomb threats were made in response to the district's investigation 634 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: of anti trans harassment by three students. Something I've been 635 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: thinking about a lot the past few weeks is that 636 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: even before Roevwade was overturned, multiple states enacted laws for 637 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: like vigilante bounty hunters to do the work of the 638 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: state that the state wasn't legally allowed to do yet, 639 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: like directly, right, And so they were getting regular people 640 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: to combat and intimidate providers into not doing abortion procedures. 641 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: And we're already seeing an increase in physical attacks targeting 642 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: queer people, and I think many more regular people are 643 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,439 Speaker 1: waiting for the state government's permission to do the same thing. 644 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: We don't need to wait for the Supreme Court to 645 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: say gay sex can be made illegal, right. States can 646 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: already start doing this stuff now, And there's already people 647 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: waiting in the wings, and as soon as they get 648 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: to go ahead, they will jump at this opportunity. I'm 649 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: gonna play one final clip that is pretty pretty grim. 650 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: I just saw the man tell me in public that 651 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:48,959 Speaker 1: he can't wait until he's legally able, until he's legally able, 652 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: and oh yeah, wait until you can legally hunt us down. 653 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: This is not okay, This is not okay. So that 654 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: was a queer person who lives in Oklahoma talking about 655 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 1: something that happened to them last month. And I try 656 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: to when I make these episodes, I try to not 657 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: just lay out a whole bunch of bad things to 658 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: be like, here's a problem, all right by everybody, like 659 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: because that sucks, but also I don't know what the 660 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: solution here is because this sucks. Of The California House 661 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: and Senate just passed bill h s B one oh seven. 662 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: This bill would provide many protections for families fleeing states 663 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: like Texas and Alabama. It would protect them from extradition, 664 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 1: from out of state investigations, from out of state custody 665 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: judgments based on providing gender affirming healthcare. The bill is 666 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: currently in review by the California Committee on Appropriations and 667 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: then it would need to be signed by the governor. 668 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,160 Speaker 1: If your state doesn't have a trans sanctuary law on 669 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: the docket, maybe it's time to ask your representative about that, UM, 670 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: preferably maybe when they're like out at dinner or at church. UM. 671 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 1: But also like even getting to the point where we're 672 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: making plans to flee to other states, when trans people 673 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: are forced to make plans to flee out of country, 674 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: when you're investigating what kind of citizenship you can get 675 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: based on your ancestral family history. Once we're at that point, 676 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: it's really hard, like it's it's and in my discussions 677 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 1: with queer friends the past few like the past few weeks, 678 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: we've been having more and more conversations about that, more 679 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: and more plans about when things really do fully breakdown, 680 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: where do we go? What do we do? Like? And 681 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: it sucks because there's so many people who live in 682 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: states like Oklahoma, like Texas right where that's people's homes, 683 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 1: that's where that's where these queer people are living and 684 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be forced to leave like they that that 685 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't happen. And we have great folks like the Elm 686 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: Fork John Brown Gun Club to think I'm providing a 687 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: really good example of how queer people can work together 688 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: to start doing community defense in your own areas. Uh, 689 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: to say no, this is our home too, and we're 690 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: gonna fucking walk around with rifles to defend it if 691 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: we have to. Um. Obviously not everyone mentally is able 692 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,760 Speaker 1: to do that, right, But there's there's there's other ways 693 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: to get in, get more connected to your local community, 694 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: to strengthen like queer areas inside you know, states where 695 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 1: these things are happening. The other thing I see a 696 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: lot with queer people that makes me really sad is 697 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 1: that fighting the state right. Fighting these types of big 698 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: homophobicaust its Usians who want to kill us. That's hard 699 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: and scary. We feel so powerless. We we want to 700 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: feel like we have any agency. I want to feel 701 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: like we have any power at all, because there's so 702 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 1: many people with power who are hurting us, and it's 703 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: hard to actually fight back against those. But we feel powerless, 704 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: so we want to feel like we're able. So instead 705 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: we turn on other people who are within our own 706 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: communities because it's easier to attack people who are like us. 707 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's easier to to to do to 708 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: do that right, it still gives you a sense of 709 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 1: having agency. But they're trying to murder us all like 710 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: personally disagreements on politics or whatever aside, Like it would 711 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: be really nice if we stop just doing nonsense fighting 712 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: with each other and doing dumb like click drama, dumb 713 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 1: discourse like they're trying to they're trying to kill us. 714 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: Can we not? Can we not do that? I know 715 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: you want to find some way to push back on 716 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: something so you feel like you have an ability to 717 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: do anything, and wing against the police, doing against your 718 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 1: state government, doing against the Supreme Court, that's much harder, right, 719 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: It's easier to do it against you know, a friend 720 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 1: of yours or someone who used to be friends with 721 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: that's so much easier. But that's not helping in their 722 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: attempts to just do genocide. So I think making plans 723 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: to get out of where you are, if you have to, 724 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 1: making plans is necessary. Sometimes I've I've thought of this, 725 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: I've been even me in the Pacific Northwest have had 726 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: have have had many thoughts about that. It's also very 727 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: important to start strengthening your relationships with other queer people 728 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: in your communities and starting to put together ways to 729 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: work with them. Um to make a show force and 730 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: say hey, we're here, we're not gonna we're here to 731 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 1: stay right now. You can't you can't scare us out 732 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: right now, because there needs to be some way to 733 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,919 Speaker 1: combat it. Because these people they're trying to do, they're 734 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,720 Speaker 1: trying to be regressive right like there, we are already 735 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 1: at a point that we progressed far enough that they're 736 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: they are scared of how much progress has happened, so 737 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: they're trying to turn the clock back. Our challenge is 738 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 1: to keep the change coming and push back against these people. 739 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: Who are trying to hold on to the dead twentieth century, right, 740 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,240 Speaker 1: the fear of change and the fear of the future 741 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: is driving their return to the past. We don't need 742 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: to just run away because we should. We should be 743 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: winning this fight in some ways because we already hold 744 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: we already hold the ground that they want to take 745 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: away from us. So, yeah, bad stuff is coming. But 746 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: just because bad things happened in history doesn't mean they 747 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: need to happen again, like we there is ways to 748 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: intervene to stop this. Um. Should you keep your passports renewed? Yes, 749 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: you obviously should, um. But we don't just need to 750 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 1: run away because we actually have ground to stand on here. 751 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, And I think I think one thing is 752 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: also important to remember is that the people who got 753 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 1: us here we're facing way, way worse solids than we are. Yeah, 754 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: people who had to do this. Yeah, And so like, 755 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 1: like the job that we have is incredibly intimidating, it 756 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: is also easier than the stuff that has already been done. 757 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: We already we already got to this point facing extremely 758 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: harsh conditions, and we already got there. Um. I don't know, 759 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 1: it's just it's always struggling to try to find ways 760 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 1: to think about this that gives you a little bit 761 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: of like, you know, it's just like it's so easy 762 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: to be a duomer. It's so easy just to say 763 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: we're all funcked, we all need to move away. That's 764 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,720 Speaker 1: the simple solution. But there's most simple things are also 765 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,879 Speaker 1: usually incomplete and wrong. So just trying to find other 766 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: ways to think about this problem. Because we don't need 767 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: to tell for people to run away, um, and you 768 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: don't need to tell them they have to fight either, um. 769 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: You know, people can make their own decisions and offer 770 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: their own resources and start operating in a network that 771 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: helps the survival of all of us and increasingly challenging times. 772 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 1: And I should also say, like non queer people like, look, 773 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: the defining characteristic of this moment is that there is 774 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: a silent, silent majority that supports crew rights. Yeah, and 775 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: if if the the the the the only way that 776 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: we actually lose this is if is if that majority 777 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: does nothing. But if that if that majority moves, if 778 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: this is people who actually believe in this stuff, and 779 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: if the non queer people who actually believe that we 780 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 1: should have rights and we should be able to live 781 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: our lives do stuff. We will fucking crush these people. 782 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: They will be remembered as a fucking grain of dust 783 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: in the sand that was crushed by the tide of history. 784 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: And we can do that. We can destroy them. We can, 785 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 1: we can, we can, we can make it for We 786 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: can make this moment in history a incredibly brief blip 787 00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: where people are like, oh hey, that was wasn't it 788 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 1: weird and Homefulibi came back for like three years and 789 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: then it was just gone again. That that that that 790 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,279 Speaker 1: is in our power. We just have to do it. Yep, 791 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: all right, well, strength and community relations. Stop stop doing 792 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: nonsense in fighting for no good reason because you want 793 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 1: to feel powerful, put that effort into actually fighting the 794 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: people that are trying to hurt you, or put that 795 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 1: effort into making friends. That does it for us today. 796 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: That was my episode on the increase in queer extermination 797 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: is um um Yeah, see you on the other side. 798 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: It could happen here as a production of cool Zone Media. 799 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website 800 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: cool zone media dot com, or check us out on 801 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: the I Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 802 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. You can find sources for it could 803 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: up in here. Updated monthly at cool Zone media dot 804 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: com slash sources. Thanks for listening.