1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: There are times when in the shop, if you've done 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: your research, and you've done your diagnosis, and you've you've 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 2: done your due diligence, you got to take your best shot, 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: the car Doctor. 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: I already ordered the wires, okay, that was going to 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 3: put the me in that. 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 4: I think I'm going to change out the bugs too, 9 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 4: because it's such a half full pick. 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, good for you. I'm glad. I'm glad you're on 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: the path, Mike, and I think if you stay with it, 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: you'll fix it and you'll be happy. 13 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 14 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 15 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 16 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 17 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage. Do orders are open? 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: But I am here to take your call at eight 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: five five five six ninety nine hundred and now pee. 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: Running. 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about this Buick regal 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: that I got an email about this week, and I 23 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: think it's pretty typical of what shops miss, all right, 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: And I hate to pick on a shop, but you know, listen, 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: not everybody. I don't know. We're throwing parts at it, 26 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: I think, and I've got to call him out on it. 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: I think they're missing a few things here. So I've 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: got this email and it starts off, you know, pretty simple, 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: comes to us from Eric. Eric rights in ron. I 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: enjoy the show. I'm a novice and do as much 31 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 2: as I can with my limited tool set. But I've 32 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: been helping out my son in law with his twenty 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: fifteen Buick. And he goes on to give a description. 34 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: It's a twenty fifteen Buick Regal two liter turbo with 35 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five thousand miles. Check engine light 36 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: came on about two months ago. He checked it with 37 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: a code reader. It had a P eleven oh one 38 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: fault code. They replaced the air filter in the mass 39 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: airflow sensor with no success. I hope there was some 40 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: testing involved there, Eric. If not, I would put things 41 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: back to where they were, you know, because we're changing parameters. 42 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: I hate changing parts without testing. Obviously it's a waste 43 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: of money and time. But the big actor is why 44 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: do you change something and you find out you put 45 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: a secondary problem into the vehicle Simply by changing a 46 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: part that well, I'll try this. Uh, you know, give 47 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: me a give me a diagnostic reason, and you know, 48 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: simple test. You got a scan tool, uh, you know, 49 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: and you need a scan tool to work on a 50 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: car today. I don't. I don't think that, you know, 51 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: And just having a code reader doesn't do it. All right, 52 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: let's talk high level indicator here. You think the mass 53 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: airflow sensor is a problem, all right, you think that's 54 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: going to be an issue? Tell me what the mass 55 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: airflow sensor is? Grams per second at idle. This is 56 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: a two leader. Guess what the number should be two grams? 57 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: Say two grams two point one, two point two, one 58 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: point eight, one point nine. I'm good with that, you know. 59 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: Is it three that's wrong? Is it one and a 60 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: half that's wrong? But you can eliminate gee, you know, 61 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: is it a mass airflow sensor right off the bat? 62 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: You know? 63 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: Of course you could do what you could do. We 64 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: could do a calculated load test. We could talk about that, 65 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: but I'd rather see you guys starting to do some 66 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: basic testing. You don't need a super expensive scan tool 67 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: if you want to get your feet wet it, all right, 68 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: and start out with you know, a generic OBD two 69 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: scan tool two hundred bucks three hundred tops five hundred 70 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: gets you a year make model. 71 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 5: You're good, you know. 72 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: I mean, we spend a lot of money on golf clubs, 73 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: baseball bats, football tickets, et cetera, et cetera. Can't we 74 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: spend a couple hundred bucks on a scan tool and 75 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: you know, stick around, tune in and I'll teach you 76 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: how to use it. They took it to a shop 77 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: he said, where TSB existed. Right, it was right, there's 78 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: there's there's the code for the bulletin. It's it's PIT 79 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 2: fifty four to oh two. You know, that's one of them. 80 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: And then there's, uh, there's also pit fifty six eighty four, 81 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: which talks about you know, smoking it for diagnostics and 82 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: so on. The TSB that you guys looked at, you 83 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: tell me in your email here talked about the O 84 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: ring seal. But the shop, after talking to a GM hotline, 85 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: stated I need to replace the entire intercooler, as GM 86 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: doesn't just sell the O ring. Well yeah, but again, 87 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: did did anybody test anything here? So you know this 88 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: is a turbo motor and now this is above your 89 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: pay grade. Eric, but the shop should have the ability 90 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: to test for air leaks. All right, there's more than 91 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: enough ways to do it. There's you know, if we 92 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: want to talk about what's at the top of the mountain, 93 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 2: let's get out to Redlinedetection dot Com. Let's go look 94 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: at the smoke machines. Redline Detection has. They make a 95 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: couple of smoke pro They make a speed smoke both 96 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: capable of doing evaporative emissions testing, which is a low 97 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: pressure test, and then an intake air duct test which 98 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: is turbocharger boost and so on, a high pressure test. 99 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 2: But for the sake of what's literally a five minute test, 100 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: fill the system with smoke. You see smoke coming out, 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 2: you have zero flow and so on. We're changing parts. 102 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: We're we're not even diagnosing, We're just throwing parts at 103 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: the car. If we're going to do this, I say 104 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 2: we get a dartboard, we list every part on the car, 105 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: and you buy one dart Okay, on Monday, this is 106 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: what I'm going to change. On Tuesday, this is what 107 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to change, and so on. Heck, by the 108 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: time you get down with the dartboard, you've got to 109 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: have it fixed. So you know redline Deetection dot com. 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: I can't say enough about it. You know, doing some 111 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: smoke testing here would be wonderful. The inner cooler was 112 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 2: replaced by the shop. Eric's email goes on, who then 113 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: called me back to tell me I didn't need just 114 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: the inner cooler replaced. I smell guessing, but also the 115 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: inlet and outlet hoses. Sure, let's throw more parts at 116 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: the car. I got the car back after declining the 117 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: hose replacements, good boy, and I replaced the outlet hose myself. 118 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 5: Uh uh. 119 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: The check engine light came back on after putting enough 120 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 2: miles on the car. It seems like the next logical 121 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: step is to change the inlet hose based on diagnostics 122 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: I was given by the shop. No, the next diagnostics 123 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: step would be to actually diagnose something. But it really 124 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: feels like there's those feelings again. We got to stop 125 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 2: feeling ourselves like I was getting mil for easy money. 126 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: I agree. GM wanted to charge one thousand dollars for 127 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: each hose. Wow, I guess there's some labor involved here, 128 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: and I see intake hoses for about five hundred online, 129 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: But I really want to drop more money if there 130 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 2: are other read less expensive options to try next. Thanks Eric. Eric. Okay, 131 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 2: you're not going to buy a smoke machine, and I'm 132 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: not telling you to do that. And obviously the shop 133 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: you went to doesn't have a smoke machine because they 134 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: would have done it by now. I would tell you 135 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: get out to Redlinedetection dot Com. At least if you 136 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: read about what a smoke machine can do and get 137 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: the idea under your head, you'll see that. Hey, if 138 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 2: we can find the shop that has something from redline 139 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 2: and the ability to build and look at pressure through 140 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: intake ducts and there's no leaks, then why would we 141 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: start changing things? Then we can begin talking about the vehicle. 142 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: You know, a P eleven oh one is all about 143 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: pressure and airflow, all right, Like, for example, did you 144 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 2: know that a sticking pcvvl can cause this problem? Yeah, 145 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: cars still have pcv vals. 146 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 5: Listen. 147 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: Cars engines have to have a way to breathe, all right, 148 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: It's a big air pump. I tell you guys this 149 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: all the time. You know, air in, air out, and 150 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: take exhaust. It's the process. But this particular vehicle has 151 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: three crank case vent valves, three PCV valves, and you've 152 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: got to make sure none of them are restricted or 153 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: sticking at one hundred and twenty five thousand miles seven 154 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: going on eight years old, eight going on nine years old, 155 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: depending upon when you bought it. Maybe we've got a 156 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: bad PCV. One of the pcvs is an issue. The 157 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: crank case vent valve could be blocked, and those are 158 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: both of those. The PCV and the crank case vent 159 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: are common problems. You see, this is about airflow. This 160 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: is this is about you know, and are we pulling 161 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: in unwanted air from somewhere. Hence the reason for the 162 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: smoke tests, hence the reason why they're telling you to 163 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: change inter cooler hoses. But nobody's diagnosing this. The sad 164 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: part is, you know, if a GM dealer gave you 165 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: any of this. I believe the speed smoke from redline 166 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: Detection is a GM essential tool. I'm not one hundred 167 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: percent certain on that, but I believe a lot of 168 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: the dealers are required to purchase that. That's how good 169 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: the tool is. That's what it does, that's its purpose, 170 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: that's what he existed for. Let's regroup. Okay, you asked 171 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: for my opinion. I'd look at Redlinedetection dot com. I'd 172 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: understand what a smoke machine can do, what a speed 173 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: smoke could do, what a smoke pro could do. At 174 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: least get the idea into your head that looking at 175 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: intake ducts would help you better understand this issue, all right, 176 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: And then I would tell you, let's go look at 177 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: the pcvs. Let's go look at the crank case vent. 178 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: Do any of those appear to be sticking, stuck, deformed, clogged? 179 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 5: You know? 180 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: What's the oil change schedule been on this vehicle? Cleanliness 181 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: is next to godliness, as I like to say, and 182 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: it'll help keep the vent and the crank case clear. 183 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: And then send me another email or call me because 184 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: I'd love to talk with you about air on this 185 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: because I'd love everybody to hear the answers and the results. 186 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 2: I like to do things on air. I'm finding more 187 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: and more just simply because everybody benefits from it, you know. 188 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: So I'm easy to get a hold of a five 189 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. I will 190 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 2: be glad to talk to you. I can even do 191 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: a midweek recording. We're trying to record phone calls midweek 192 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: Wednesday night, East Coast time, seven o'clock to start talking 193 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: to people about Hey, you know, I've got this problem 194 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: because I know some of you can't wait till midweek 195 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 2: or till the weekend, you know, Saturday Sunday kind of thing. 196 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: Just keep in mind if you do call and say, hey, Ron, 197 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you, if you could send 198 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: me an email in that just spell it out for me, 199 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: you know, Joe at main Street dot com or whatever 200 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: it is, because I'll probably reach out to you buy email. 201 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: It's easier for me and then we can call and 202 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: talk and chat. So, but I don't think they diagnosed 203 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: anything for you, Eric. I think they're changing parts, and 204 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 2: I question whether they've got the ability. So I would 205 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: look elsewhere and find another shop, find somebody that's got 206 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: some diagnostics capability, and at least a smoke machine, if 207 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: not a speed smoke from redline detection A five to 208 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. The car 209 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: Doctor's coming back right after this. Whether it's a. 210 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 6: Little red Corvette or you go, you've come to the 211 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 6: right place to get that car fixed. Ron and Andy 212 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 6: in the Car Doctor eight five five five six zero 213 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 6: nine nine zero zero. Now back to Ron. 214 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: Hey, let's get over to Douglas in Virginia Douglas. Welcome 215 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 2: to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? 216 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: Well? I have this two thousand and nine CRB Honda, Okay, 217 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: and I recently had the cooling system flushed and the 218 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: training flushed, and when I went to turn the heat 219 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: on to get heat for the defrosters and all, I'm 220 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 3: not getting any heat. And I'm just wondering if the 221 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: plucking might have had something to do with that. 222 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: Okay, do you the shop that did the flush? Have 223 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: you gone back and talked to them? 224 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: No, I'm planning on taking it back to them. 225 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So how long ago did they do this? Last week? 226 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 2: This week? 227 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: Probably about two months ago? Maybe? 228 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: All right, so you know your first Yeah, it's been hot. 229 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: So I haven't been running the right Well, you. 230 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: Re you realize your first argument with them is going 231 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: to be why didn't you come back right away? Just 232 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: just I'm just saying, yeah, it's it's it's it's always 233 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: best to get it right away. So the heater core 234 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: on these cars can be difficult to bleed, you know, 235 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: it's it's they do get air pockets in them. Is 236 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: it cold cold or is it lukewarm? Or what is it? 237 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 3: It's just cold. I mean, there's no at all, all right, but. 238 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: You have blower, the blower works, you have fash. Yeah, 239 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 2: so you know, was the cooling system dirty or was 240 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: this done as a matter of maintenance because the coolant. 241 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 3: Was old, just a matter of maintenance, all right, So. 242 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: Let's think of it like this, all right. This may 243 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: be related to what they did, this may not be 244 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: related to what they did. All right, There's not much 245 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: they could have done wrong in the sense that if 246 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: they did a true flush, hook a machine up and 247 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: let's define a flush, all right for our conversation to me, 248 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: doing a coolant flush is you know, they hook up 249 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: a machine that does a one for one exchange a 250 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 2: court of fresh coolant in afresh of old coolant out, 251 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: all right, and it goes one for one, court for court, 252 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: and eventually all the coolant is exchanged. You know a 253 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: lot of places don't do that. They'll say it's a flush, 254 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: but they're actually just doing a drain and fill off 255 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: the radiator. So you know, what did they do if 256 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: they said no, you know, hey, Douglas, we did a flush. 257 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, can I see the machine. I'm not saying 258 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: it's not there, but you know, sometimes it does raise 259 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: some eyebrows if you see everybody scamper. So that being said, 260 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: let's assume they did the flush correctly and that your 261 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 2: heater core is airbound. All right? Uh, you know, what 262 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: do you look in your house, Douglas? What do you 263 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: have for a heating system? Forced hot air or baseport. 264 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: Force hot air? 265 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so the example won't work with you. You know 266 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: if the system gets air bound all right, that there's 267 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: an air bubble. The easiest way to tell would be 268 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: bring the engine up to operating temperature. All right? Feel 269 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: the upper and lower radiator hose? Are they both hot? 270 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: Almost uncomfortable to touch? If they are? Chances are engine 271 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: temperature is good. 272 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 5: Right. 273 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 2: The needle is where you normally see it is the 274 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: needle where you normally see it. 275 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: Well, like I said, when I run the car for 276 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: any lens of time, the it doesn't heat up. It 277 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: has the idiom light I call it, but it only 278 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: stays right on, you know, normal or in the middle. 279 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: Well, no, you're you're you're common to me? Was you 280 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: have no hot air out the blower? Are you out 281 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: the ducks? Are you saying that the engine temperature gauge 282 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: never comes up. 283 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: Oh, look, the temperature comes up to like what I 284 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: would say would be normally right center on the light. Fine, 285 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: that's what I'm not getting any heat. 286 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: The blowers work, right, I understand that part. You we're 287 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: getting sidetracked here, so we've got good heat. I want 288 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: to know as the upper and lower radiator hose uncomfortable 289 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 2: to touch, then my next question would be, right, you 290 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: wouldn't have done that. They would have done that. Okay, 291 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: Then my next question would be what do the heater 292 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: hoses feel like? Is one of them colder? 293 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 5: Now? 294 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: One will always be cooler when we look at heater hoses. 295 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: I don't care if the car is red, white, blue, green, 296 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: Honda Toyota, you know, four GM Chrysler, It doesn't matter. 297 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: Convection works the same. One heater hose is always going 298 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: to be the same or roughly the same temperature as 299 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: the upper and lower radiator hoses. It's going to be 300 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: hot and the other heater hose or outlet is going 301 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: to be a little bit cooler. Traditionally fifteen to twenty degrees, 302 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: because the laws of physics dictate that as heat goes 303 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: through a core and air passes over it, it's going to 304 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,239 Speaker 2: cool it off and lower temperature. 305 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: All right. 306 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: Now, it's possible, since you had this flush or whatever 307 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: they did done in June July, right, that perhaps the 308 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: heat stopped working since last February March, and now you're 309 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: just in that mode of Okay, now there's a problem. 310 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: It's just kind of caught up. And it's a coincidence 311 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: that they did this cool and service and now you've 312 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: noticed no heat. 313 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 5: All right. 314 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: These heater cores are not uncommon to clog. All right. 315 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: They're not uncommon to clog, and they're difficult to bleed. 316 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: Where you live your house, is there an incline? 317 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: Is no, I'm basically flat. 318 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: Okay, you're not helping me here, Douglas. Come on now, 319 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: I'm what I'm looking for is a slight incline. Doesn't 320 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: take much. Fifteen degrees, twenty degrees and park the car, 321 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: all right. If you want to try this yourself, park 322 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: the vehicle, pop the hood if the vehicle is cold. 323 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: Only when the v icicle is cold, take off the 324 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: radiator cap. Let the car sit. Okay, look at the 325 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 2: coolant overflow bottle on the should be on the left 326 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: side of the engine compartment over I'm sorry, on the 327 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: passenger side passenger side front corner of the passenger side 328 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: as a driver's side. Okay, yeah, this is a is 329 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: an nine. Yes, you're correct. Yeah, so, and let's mark 330 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: that with a black magic marker. Here's the level the 331 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: levels here. Let it sit overnight with the radiator cap off. 332 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: Does the level drop? All right? I don't. I don't 333 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: think this is going to fix it. But then again, 334 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: if you haven't driven a whole lot of miles since 335 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: it was serviced, and all it's been is on flat 336 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: service surfaces, sometimes that air bubble is a devil to 337 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: get out. But sitting at an incline with the cap 338 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: woff will help it, all right. Air will always find 339 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 2: its highest point. And the reason I say, I want 340 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: you to look at the bottle and look inside the 341 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: radiator once you get the cap woff on a cold engine, 342 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: mind you right, it's got to be a cold engine, 343 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: all right? Does the level in either drop and if 344 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: the level drops, cool it went somewhere. It burned a bubble. 345 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: Now put the cap on. You want to top the 346 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: bottle depending on how much it dropped, and drive it. 347 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: Does heat come back? If he doesn't come back, then 348 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: you've got to go to the shop and get them 349 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: to diagnose it. Do we have a core problem? Is 350 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 2: this a case of the core is restricted? Is the 351 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: core still the heater core is still bound up with air? 352 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: Or is the cooling system working properly? And the problem 353 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 2: is in the dash controls. A blend door is stuck, 354 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: a tempt door is stuck. Something with controls, and you 355 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: know the workings underneath the dashboard. But that's where you're going. 356 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: Well, that's what I was wondering, because it's just a 357 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 3: knob when you go from cool to heat right when 358 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: you when you whether there was a sensor there or. 359 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: Well, now on a basic system, no, sir, But if 360 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: you sat there with the keon, engine off, and turn 361 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: the heat from hot to cold, you should be able 362 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: to hear the servo motor creak its way along on 363 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: this twelve year old car and let you know that 364 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 2: the door is changing position from one extreme. 365 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 5: To the other. 366 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 2: But after that, and after the other things I said, 367 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: you're back to the shop and explain to them and 368 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 2: let them diagnose it and solve it from there. But 369 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: don't be surprised if the core is clocked. I'm ronning 370 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 2: Andy and the Car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. 371 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 5: Don't go away. 372 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the AutoZone studio. Here's Ron. Hey, I 373 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 2: want to thanks for coming back. A five five five 374 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero. As I've said before, 375 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: that phone number A five to five five six zero 376 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero is the Car Doctor's twenty four 377 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: to seven number. You can call that phone number anytime, 378 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: day or night. 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So be part of our midweek recordings. 389 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: We appreciate it and solo everybody else that. 390 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 5: Learns from it. 391 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: If you can interject your email in that phone call, 392 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 2: you know I can get a hold of you at 393 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: you know Joe at Smithstreet dot com or whatever it 394 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 2: is that helps too. I want to talk about the 395 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: job interview. You know, the job interview is something that 396 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: well mechanics go on every day, or they give every day, 397 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: whether they realize it or not. Mister Kelly came into 398 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: the shop this week. I love mister Kelly. He's just 399 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: a fun guy. He's an older fella. He's driving a 400 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: twenty ten Lincoln in and you know, he's just he's 401 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: just a lot of left. You can tell. He's got 402 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: a great disposition and great outlook on life. And sometimes 403 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 2: his repairs are a little bit adventurous, shall we say, 404 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: or different. And this week was no exception. He called 405 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 2: me up early part of the week and he said, hey, Ron, 406 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: I've got a leak in my washer bottle, my windshield 407 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: washer bottle. I said, yeah, how so, Charlie. Well, he 408 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: described to me that he'd open the hood and he 409 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 2: found the washer bottle and he'd fill it up and 410 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: he'd get back in the car and it would leak 411 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: all over the place. Those were his words. I said, well, okay, 412 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 2: he says, would you order me a washer bottle? I said, well, 413 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: I'd rather see the washer bottle failure, because I've learned 414 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: that you know, what you see or canstrue as a 415 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: fault or a failure may not necessarily be the case. 416 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: I said, how about you bring it to me on Thursday, 417 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: and you know, let me diagnose it. Let me, let 418 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 2: me do what I'm supposed to do and give it 419 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,959 Speaker 2: an evaluation and come back with some research and tell 420 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: you what I see. And I realized, it's just a 421 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: simple washer bottle. But let's play the game that way. 422 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: He agreed. You know, I'm glad I follow my instinct 423 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: in my gut. So the car showed up Thursday and 424 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,239 Speaker 2: the washer bottle was full. I said, look at that, 425 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: and I wonder what he's seeing leaking? And before I 426 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: picked up the phone and tried him instinct and I guess, 427 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: you know, fifty years had do and this told me, Hey, 428 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: why don't we try the washers. Let's see what happens. 429 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: So I, you know, gave the washers of spritz and 430 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: all the fluid came out, but in the wrong place. 431 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: It came out under the hood, dripping on the ground 432 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: because the washer nozzles were broken. How that happened, I 433 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't care I care, but I don't care. 434 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: You know, my job is. 435 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 5: To fix it. 436 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 2: It needed to washer nozzles, and I couldn't help but 437 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 2: think to myself how awkward it would have been that 438 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: if I had listened to what the customer said to do. 439 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: I do own a washer bottle for a twenty ten 440 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 2: Lincoln MKZ, which there's not too many of those left anymore. 441 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 2: That are like dinosaurs when they roam the earth in 442 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: greater numbers. So that job interview that at the counter, 443 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 2: my card does this, this, and this. You know, it 444 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: just proves the point. It stresses the need for it 445 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: ever so much more. It's just it's just so critical 446 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: that information that we collect as the mechanics and you 447 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: provide as the consumer as to you know, what might 448 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 2: actually be the fault and just just something to be 449 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: aware of. So just wanted to point that out the 450 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: job interview. When you go on it, don't don't be 451 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 2: afraid to share information, but try to be concise. And 452 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: you know, I don't necessarily need to know what you 453 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 2: have for breakfast that day, but i'd like to know 454 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: when you were driving, what speed you were driving at. 455 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: If you get my meaning, Let's go to Frank in 456 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 2: Virginia twenty f one fifty and some questions. Frank, welcome 457 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: to the car doctor, sir, how can I help? 458 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, thanks for taking my call longpem list their 459 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 4: first time caller. 460 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate your effort. 461 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 4: I have a twenty twenty f one to fifty that 462 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 4: I bought new, and about six months after I owned it, 463 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 4: it began to ping. The engine would knock on mild acceleration. 464 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 2: Which engine is that? 465 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 7: I mean? 466 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: Which engine is this? 467 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 7: Right? 468 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 4: It's the five liter V eight Okay, go ahead, and 469 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 4: it pings on mild acceleration from about you know, when 470 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 4: I pull out of my driveway until I get up 471 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 4: to about forty miles an hour. Sometimes it's louder than 472 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 4: other days, but it's pretty consistent on that range of pinging. 473 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: I took it to the dealer on my latest service 474 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 4: call and I said, hey, here's what it's doing. Is 475 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 4: runny adjustment you can make? And they said, no, there's 476 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 4: no adjustment. We recommend you just put in a higher 477 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 4: graded gasoline and see what happens. And that just didn't 478 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 4: sound right to me, so I wanted to get your 479 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 4: take on that. 480 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So the software in this particular vehicle, and I'm 481 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: familiar with this, I've seen this on a few of them. 482 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: My belief is that eventually when the priority, when it 483 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: becomes a priority, they will right a change of software 484 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: or software upgrade for this vehicle, you know, before we 485 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: go through extensive testing. The first thing I would do, 486 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 2: because there's probably no fault codes here, I'm gonna guess 487 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: and say right, and by that I mean not just 488 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 2: you know, is the check engine light on? Is there 489 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: anything pending? 490 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 5: All right? 491 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: Pending is just as important as you know, current all right. 492 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: You know. It's sort of like you ever notice when 493 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,239 Speaker 2: you go to the doctor, what's the first thing they do. 494 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 2: They weigh you, they stick you know, stick out your 495 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: tongue and say on, they check your your your blood pressure. Right, 496 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 2: They're looking for the problem that's about to happen. They're 497 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: looking for the pending fault because obviously you're alive, you 498 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: made it in all right, so they know, you know, 499 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: you don't have many current full codes so to speak. 500 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: So you know, cars are the same way, you know, 501 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: just different models. And one of the things I like 502 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: to look at with this is, well, I go through 503 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: my high level indicators. But I'm going to look at 504 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: fuel trim. Fuel trim's a biggie. Do I have negative numbers? 505 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: Do I have positive numbers? Or are they you know, 506 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 2: middle of the road. 507 00:24:59,680 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 5: You know. 508 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: If I'm seeing negative fuel trim numbers, meaning that the 509 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: vehicle is running rich so it's pulling fuel away, that's 510 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 2: a concern. Now, the five leader in this year vehicle 511 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: is a flex fuel vehicle. This is a flex fuel vehicle. Correct, 512 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: you can you can run flex? Do you run gasoline 513 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: or do you run eighty five? 514 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 7: No? 515 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 4: I run eighty seven octane gasoline because I think ten fanol. 516 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 2: Okay, so perfect. That's why I think this is going 517 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: to fix this, all right, you know, because what I'm 518 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: seeing is the flex fuel version of this truck has 519 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: a problem with software. So if you go look at 520 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: fuel trim, you're probably going to see negative fuel trim. 521 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: If zero is a balanced fuel mixture, zero is your 522 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: resting heartbeat, you're going to see a number less than zero, 523 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 2: meaning negative, negative ten to fifteen percent, all right, okay. 524 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: Most fuel trim fault codees occur at twenty five percent 525 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: plus or minus. Okay, So if if you're if your 526 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: negative fuel trim. Let me see, let me see. You're 527 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 2: gonna get the test now you're ready. If your negative, 528 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: if your negative fuel trim Frank was twenty four negative, 529 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: twenty four point five, is it going to set a code? 530 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: Not according to what you just said. 531 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: Right so, And that's my point, and that's why we 532 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: want to look at fuel trim. You know, if the 533 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: dealer's saying, well there's no code, there's nothing to look at, 534 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: and I'm not saying that's what they said, that's what 535 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 2: I understood them to say, then you know we're missing 536 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: the beat. So once we establish fuel trim, no pending codes, 537 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 2: the next thing I want somebody to do is do 538 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: a CAM memory reset, keep a live memory. 539 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: All right, am memory reset? 540 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: O KAM, cam memory reset, keep a live memory. What 541 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: that will do is reset the onboard computer. The PCM 542 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: has learned how Frank drives. All right, it's learned you're 543 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: operating characteristics. It's going to do a memory reset of 544 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: fuel trim, adaptives how the vehicle functions, and start from zero. 545 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: Does the pinging go away? If the pinging goes away, 546 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 2: it shows that cam memory was locked up and it 547 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: couldn't properly adjust fuel trim. By the way, did you 548 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: try a higher grade of fuel? Did that solve the problem? 549 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 2: Or you haven't done that yet. 550 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 4: No, I haven't done that. 551 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 2: Good boy. 552 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 4: I'm a little bit stubborn because I feel like Ford 553 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 4: says this truck should burn eighty seven octane used. 554 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 2: I agree. And then the last thing I want you 555 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: to do is I want you to mention to them. So, 556 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: because this is a flex fuel vehicle, there is an 557 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 2: alcohol content PIT parameter identification. A PIT is a piece 558 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: of data, all right, it's what we see on the 559 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: scan tool, those lines of data that a scan tool displays. 560 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: There is an alcohol content PID in this vehicle. It's 561 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 2: flex fuel. Right, if you're running, If you're running ten percent, 562 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: guess what the alcohol value content should be. Go ahead, guess. 563 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say ten percent. 564 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: Bing, go you win the prize, all right, twelve percent, 565 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 2: fifteen percent, I'm okay. If it says sixty three percent, 566 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 2: either you're buying fuel that's not being correctly blended and 567 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: they're over blending alcohol into the gasoline, or you've got 568 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: a problem with how it's interpreting it, and that's a 569 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: whole other conversation. So just good things, Just good things 570 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: to look at. Go do that. I'm running late and 571 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: need more. You know where to find me. But I 572 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: bet you this is going to catch them by the surprise. 573 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: And if they want to hear this hour two, you're 574 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: coming out of the bottom hour podcast. After the radio 575 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: show gets done in about two hours, it'll become a podcast. 576 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: You can pick it up tomorrow and you know, play 577 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: back for him. All right, kiddo, you'd be well, I'm 578 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: running any in the car doctor, I'll be back right 579 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: after this. 580 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: By right up. 581 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back, run name of the car doctor. That's me. 582 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: Let's go over to Jeremy and Maryland. Jeremy, welcome brother. 583 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: How can I help you today? 584 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 7: Looking for a recommendation on a good by directional scanner 585 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 7: for like a homeowner. You got a new truck that 586 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 7: you gotta you know, when you put new brakes on, 587 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 7: you got a command the parking break to retract. 588 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. I'm gonna tell you 589 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: Launch tech US a lunch tech USA dot com and 590 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: they've got a slew of you know what we'll call 591 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: DIY scan tools, anything from anything from two hundred to 592 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: one thousand bucks, depending on what you want to spend, 593 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: you know, if we want to, you know, go above that, 594 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: go see if you can buy a throttle. A launch throttle, 595 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: I think on the street they're about thirty five hundred 596 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 2: bucks four grand. Probably a little too much for a 597 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: di wire. But you know, then again, we spend two 598 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in a set of golf clubs, and we 599 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: play a better game when we use a better set 600 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: of golf clubs. So you know, there's something to be 601 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: said for that. I think, you know, for a guy 602 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: that I is going to be a little bit more 603 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: into it. And you know, Jeremy, you have called a 604 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: few times, so I'm gonna, you know, just state my case. 605 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 2: You know, I think you're going to look deeper into 606 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: it than maybe some other people. The nice thing about 607 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: a scan tool that I would want for you is 608 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: the ability to graph, you know, to put the tracer 609 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: up there. You know, because you're you're your eye sees 610 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: things at at you know, I think we blink four 611 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: times a second, whether we realize it or not. And 612 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: you know the rate at which that processor moves to 613 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: catch new data and display it. It's important, and you know, 614 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 2: when you're buying a scan tool, inasmuch as you're buying features, 615 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: you're also buying processor speed, memory capability, and so forth. Now, 616 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 2: I don't claim to know what my scan tools have 617 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: have for processor or memory. I just know that they 618 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: work because I've tried them. I've used their functions, and 619 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: I've tried I've tried I think everybody scan tool out there, 620 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: So you know, I know the Launch is very capable. Now, 621 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: one of the things you could try. Do you have 622 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: an AutoZone near you, Yeah, AutoZone sells Launch. You can 623 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: go talk to them. Oh really, yeah, they if you 624 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: go on their website. If you go on their website. 625 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, if you go out to 626 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: the AutoZone website, you'll see and just type in scan tool, 627 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: Launch will come up there. All right. Now, they may 628 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: not have every model you want in the store, but 629 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: you know the fact that they're on their website tells 630 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: me they're a dealer or they're a distributor rather, and 631 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: you know they should be able to order it for you. 632 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 7: You know, I mean, do you think for like fifteen 633 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 7: hundred bucks I could get into something relatively usable? 634 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think I think the number is going to 635 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: be a thousand or less or three grand or more, 636 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: you know, in that for some reason, that thousand to 637 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: three thousand ranges sort of like no man's land, you know. 638 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: So at that point, you're buying something used, and I 639 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: don't think you want that, you know, I think, yeah, 640 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: you want you want fresh, current technology, and you don't 641 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: want to have buyers remorse. And the nice thing is 642 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: if you buy from your local AutoZone, they'll be able 643 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: to guide you accordingly and say, yeah, this works. People 644 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,719 Speaker 2: like this, This tool does the job all right. And 645 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: at least you have somebody to go to, because one 646 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: thing I can't stress enough when you purchase a scan tool, 647 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: whether it be direct from launch TECHUSA dot com or 648 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: whether it be from your local AutoZone, you're gonna need support. 649 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: You need somebody to go back and talk to. It's 650 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 2: it's just very very important. Good luck to you, Jeremy. 651 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: I appreciate the inquiry and I appreciate you being there. 652 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: I'm running any in the car doctor. I'll be back 653 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 2: right after this. Welcome back to the AutoZone studio. Here's Ron. 654 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Running in the car doctor. Eight five five 655 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 2: five zero nine nine zero zero is the phone number. 656 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 2: Give us a call we can talk or we can 657 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 2: talk midweek. Call that number, leave a message and we'll 658 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: get back to you. Leave your email address if you can. Hey, 659 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: did you see the news article? And I'm just reporting 660 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: the news, folks, I really am. It was up on Yahoo. 661 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 2: California looking to restrict travel for classic cars. Holy cow. 662 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: The state is looking at instituting zero emission zones soon. 663 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: The article starts out by saying, written by Steven Simes, 664 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 2: this is dated this past Monday, the state of California 665 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: is looking seriously at instituting or allowing local governments to 666 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 2: institute zero emission zones in the near future. In preparation 667 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: for such a move, the California Era Researcher's Board reportedly 668 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: is gathering information about classic cars and how owners use them. 669 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: They knew something like this was coming to the US 670 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: in California, likely first, but this is still concerning. The 671 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: article goes on to state. According to a Daily Coler 672 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: report on August two, CARP sent a survey of classic 673 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: car owners for model years nineteen seventy eight on down, 674 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: a question and answer survey about how they used the vehicle, 675 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: where they store it, how they drive it, and so forth. 676 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: A little commentary. You know, if it's a classic car 677 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: and it's being driven on weekends or limited mileage, how 678 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 2: much can it really be contributing to the pollution problem 679 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: that we have, And wouldn't it make more sense to 680 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: have better motor vehicle inspections, better roadside checks, more enforcement 681 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: in terms of the people that are ignoring these things, 682 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: the scoff laws that are just continuing to pollute. You know, 683 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: here in New Jersey there's an inspection program. You know 684 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: what it takes to pass the check engine light's not 685 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: on and it's a plug under the dashboard. We okay, 686 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure that cleans up emissions, but we do nothing 687 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: for safety, ball tires, brake lights that are out, and 688 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: so on and so forth. We don't do enough maintaining 689 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: or stressing or enforcing of emissions in my opinion, and 690 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 2: picking on classic cars is clearly the wrong way to 691 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: go because they're not even looking at the consequences of 692 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 2: how many billion with a b industry the classic car 693 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 2: is to this country and the economy, and right now 694 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: the economy can't afford to take any more hits. So 695 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: if you've got a classic, you might want to talk 696 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: to your elected officials and be aware of what's coming 697 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 2: down the road. I'm running ady in the car, doctor, 698 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: reminding you till the next time. Happy to be here 699 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 2: in a pleasure to serve. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 700 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 2: See you