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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast PODYA All right.

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Speaker 2: Here we go fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five,

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Speaker 2: Tony Cody five fifty and the chick as Block the

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Speaker 2: college football world stun us.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, please stumbled and bumble the lateral turn

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Speaker 1: a cutter on the inside, don't you The lad came

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Speaker 1: off the field to night.

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Speaker 2: It's not the side of the dog in the fight.

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Speaker 2: It's the side of the fight in the dog. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by bet MGM. This is the group of five Deep

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Speaker 2: Dive also known as the Pavia Ponzi Scheme. It continues

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Speaker 2: to roll on and so do we. Here for those

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Speaker 2: watching on YouTube, we have matching Diego Pavia t shirts.

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Speaker 2: We appreciates all the heavy lifting that our fans out

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Speaker 2: in the Twitter sphere have been doing, basically shouting from

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Speaker 2: the rooftops that this guy is an absolute ATM. Jerry

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Speaker 2: Kill should be up for Coach of the Year. All

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Speaker 2: this positivity coming out of Las crusis now they travel

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Speaker 2: across the country to Lynchburg to take on Liberty in

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Speaker 2: the Conference USA Championship. But before we get into all

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Speaker 2: five of the G five conference championships. We're just gonna

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Speaker 2: make a quick pitstop here just to address the fact

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Speaker 2: that the goat here at the Action Network is Stucky.

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Speaker 2: And I don't say that tongue in cheek. The man

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Speaker 2: has built in a legacy of being in the know,

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Speaker 2: of being in the weeds. He's grind in college football,

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Speaker 2: college basketball, the NFL any sport. When you listen to Stucky,

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Speaker 2: he is educated on the subject. He's opinionated. But mann

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Speaker 2: does the guy have a long period of winning, of

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Speaker 2: like staying in the black year after year after year,

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Speaker 2: all the way back to his covers days. So when

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Speaker 2: I say that I respect the man, I absolutely believe it.

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Speaker 2: That's true. What's also true is that he just will

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Speaker 2: not get out of his own way. When it comes

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Speaker 2: to Pavia in New Mexico State, he continues to fade them.

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Speaker 2: At this point, a lot of people are tweeting us,

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Speaker 2: They're on social media, they're into our dms. You know,

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Speaker 2: do you want an apology? I don't want an apology.

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Speaker 2: At this point, the land of Enchantment locomotive is full.

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Speaker 2: The doors are no longer opening. This is an express

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Speaker 2: train to Lynchburg. Virginia. If you're on board, congrats, kick back,

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Speaker 2: enjoy yourself. Hopefully have some tickets like we do. I

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Speaker 2: have a moneyline ticket at plus four fifty. We also

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Speaker 2: hit the preseason where I went with Liberty. I think

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Speaker 2: it was like plus two fifteen something like that. So

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Speaker 2: I'm counting my money at this point. But anyone who's

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Speaker 2: not been a part of the PAVI experience to this point,

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Speaker 2: it's too late. All right, the doors are sealed and

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Speaker 2: it's totally fine that he wants to dig in. A

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Speaker 2: shout out to the new BCS. I'm obviously a biased,

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Speaker 2: you know, person on this in terms of our programming,

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Speaker 2: but I think the BCS show has been phenomenal this

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Speaker 2: year as a part of our BBOC offerings. You know,

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Speaker 2: the core three of McMurphy and Stuck and Colin just

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Speaker 2: like cutting up in a little bit more of a

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Speaker 2: loose format, talking big picture talking, you know, the Stumper

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Speaker 2: tribute question. It's been great. And a big shout out

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Speaker 2: to our boy Tim Kalanowski for coming in and basically

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Speaker 2: being the ring master of that circus and keeping everything

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Speaker 2: on track on a weekly basis. It was great. McMurphy

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Speaker 2: dunking all over stucky for not being with Pavia this

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Speaker 2: year was great. You know, I would ask a little

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Speaker 2: bit more. In terms of pronunciation. I think some of

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Speaker 2: it's tongue in cheek. I think some of it's purposefully

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Speaker 2: mispronouncing his last name, Diego Pavia household name. Get used

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Speaker 2: to it, everybody, all right, I know I'm going to

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Speaker 2: bring you in here with your T shirt, Go Diego go?

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts leading into the very first G

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Speaker 2: five championship game on Friday the Conference USA Belt.

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Speaker 1: Also, first of all, it was one thing when he

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Speaker 1: you know, stayed to claim against Diego Pavia, but then

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Speaker 1: when he called you cowardly Calibres on live show, that

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Speaker 1: was to me where he crossed the line. That's why

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Speaker 1: I dubbed him stubborn stock because he refuses to accept

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Speaker 1: defeat and to apologize to us. You don't even want

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Speaker 1: it's us, Diego Jerry Covers and he won't do it,

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Speaker 1: and him calling you cowardly Calabres, well, stubborn Stocky, it's

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Speaker 1: about time he jumps off. I'm sure he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: all over liberty in this spot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I'm just a modest gambler here,

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Speaker 2: just trying to talk through these games on a weekly basis.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put my money where my mouth is. But really,

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Speaker 2: I think the only person that gets heard here is

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Speaker 2: the upcoming snub. He didn't do a very good job

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Speaker 2: of teasing it. He's not going to give the gambling

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Speaker 2: heisman to Diego, He's gonna give it to Fefida. He's

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Speaker 2: got a different love interest in the American Southwest, and

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Speaker 2: it's not our boy from Maggie Land. I understand, I

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Speaker 2: get it, and really at this point, I just got

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Speaker 2: to embrace it, because it's like you can talk about

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Speaker 2: Heisman snubs, you can talk about Peyton Manning and Dominic

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Speaker 2: and Sue like those people live on forever. I think

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Speaker 2: Diego is going to slide into that as someone who

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Speaker 2: absolutely deserved to be the gambling HIGs.

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Speaker 1: It would have been three straight g five gambling heismans.

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Speaker 2: one on the slate, New Mexico State at Liberty in Lynchburg.

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Speaker 2: The flameslay in ten, the total sending at fifty four

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Speaker 2: and a half. I'll do a quick breakdown for those

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Speaker 2: of you who have been living under a frickin g

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Speaker 2: five rock here New Mexico State ten wins for the

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Speaker 2: first time since Iella. Do you know who the president

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Speaker 2: of the United States was the last time the Aggies

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Speaker 2: won ten games in a single season?

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Speaker 1: Oh God, I don't know. Eisenhower.

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Speaker 2: Dwight D. Eisenhower is correct, the father of the interstate system,

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Speaker 2: geographical partners. Don't worry hop on you know the interstate.

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Speaker 2: exit ramp all right to give a quick rundown on

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Speaker 2: these teams. Liberties offense electric fifth and success rate second

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Speaker 2: and passing explosive miss Kiden Salter went from a is

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Speaker 2: he gonna be good enough to run this Jamie Chadwell

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Speaker 2: offense to oh, my god, this guy is a borderline

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Speaker 2: like honorable mention all American. He's ninth in QBR in

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Speaker 2: with the explosive play though there's seventy seventh and explosives

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Speaker 2: Here comes to New Mexico state fourteenth and success rate

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Speaker 2: games this year with over two hundred passing and sixty

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Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that they're like an absolute live in

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Speaker 2: So they play a little bit ben don't break. They

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Speaker 2: game swung on a very bad half for New Mexico State.

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Speaker 2: They were actually leading seventeen thirteen late in the second quarter.

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Speaker 2: twelve for twenty one two picks. Salter, you could argue

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Speaker 2: you couldn't really play it any better. Two seventy six

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Speaker 2: State's still a live dog. I can't advocate because I

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Speaker 2: now down to three to one in the market. But

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, if the smoke intensifies around Jamie Chadwell,

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Speaker 2: even if he doesn't take a job, but it's like

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Speaker 2: one of the worst kept secrets that he's taken one

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Speaker 2: of these open, you know, power five jobs, I think

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Speaker 2: the points in New Mexico State in that eleven let's

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Speaker 2: call it thirteen and a half point range. What are

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on this game between the Aggies and the Flames.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean obviously you know where I'm going. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as Breeze mentioned it, me and him both took Mexico

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Speaker 1: State plus four fifty on the money line as soon

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Speaker 1: as they clinched. We're watching this game together on Friday

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Speaker 1: So I'm very excited for that. We will be having

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Speaker 1: a grand old time together. This game is hard to

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Speaker 1: to everybody you know and they're you love, you love

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Speaker 1: Caiden Salter, I don't know, he's okay, Like, yeah, he's good.

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Speaker 1: They don't play anyone, I know. The it's in Mexico State.

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Speaker 1: liberty just all the time, scumbags, school or Diego. People

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Speaker 2: to Saturday, Miami with Ohio against Toledo. They're playing this

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Speaker 1: So frameone who's been listening all season, hopefully you listen

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Speaker 1: I don't know that they'll win, but I seven and

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Speaker 2: I would also recommend this isn't something that I do

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Speaker 2: The question is Kenny pop any big plays against the

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Speaker 2: half TU lane this year has been the most profitable

428
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Speaker 2: under team in the AAC. Ten of their twelve games

429
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Speaker 2: have cashed out on the under. Because I still think

430
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Speaker 2: the public books, everybody was like, this offense will get

431
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Speaker 2: it together, just like they had it last year. They

432
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Speaker 2: have the same quarterback for christ Sag. They got to

433
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Speaker 2: get it together. No one is saying that Pratt has

434
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Speaker 2: regressed or anything like that, but just all the pieces

435
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: around him are not quite as good. So, as I said,

436
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,679
Speaker 2: you can dink and dunkgainst the SMU defense, but you

437
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: cannot beat them with the explosives. So it's already an

438
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Speaker 2: offense that's been playing a lot of clunkers. I see

439
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Speaker 2: this as SMU trying their best to limit possessions in

440
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 2: this game, run the ball a little bit more. It's

441
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Speaker 2: not the sexiest play on Championship weekend, but on going.

442
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Speaker 1: Under here, Yeah, so this is the one I'm I

443
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Speaker 1: Also from the preseason podcast, I've SMU plus three fifty

444
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Speaker 1: to win the American and it absolutely sucks pressing Stone

445
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 1: is hurt. I was devastated by that injury last week.

446
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm my hedge of this. There's no chance I'm heading

447
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 1: this because I think with this game. I'm not saying

448
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: I would. You know, they're they're favored obviously, but I

449
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,439
Speaker 1: think they can still win. So I'm comfortable right in

450
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 1: this one. You mentioned Jennings, Yeah, he's played in garbage

451
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: time because as a music kicking a shit at everyone.

452
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 1: He's seventy five percent of his past is three touchdowns,

453
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: no picks. I don't put a ton of stock into that.

454
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Speaker 1: You know, when you look at some teams we talked

455
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Speaker 1: about with Gabbert, like he's never going to replace Stone,

456
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Speaker 1: but he has a lot of weapons at his disposal

457
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Speaker 1: to work with where he doesn't necessarily have to. He

458
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: has three really really good running backs, knight In, Johnson

459
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 1: and Wheaton. I don't think Knighton or Johnson played last week,

460
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 1: just like they're both available, but it's like they were

461
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 1: beating Navy by so much that they didn't what's his space?

462
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: He went said after the game, like, yeah, they were available,

463
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Speaker 1: we just didn't need them, like they were up by four.

464
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Speaker 1: I think Stone through three touchdowns in the first quarter

465
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Speaker 1: like they were up by thirty. Immediately. They have a

466
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Speaker 1: loaded receiver room, they have a stud tight end. I

467
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Speaker 1: think RJ. Maryland is going to be huge in this

468
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Speaker 1: game because I don't expect, you know, Jennings to be

469
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Speaker 1: thrown it deep all the time. So having r J.

470
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Speaker 1: Maryland that's kind of his safety valve out. He's already

471
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Speaker 1: the leading receiver in general. I know your player prop show.

472
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Speaker 1: He's a guy you don't usually get a lot of

473
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Speaker 1: these lines for g five games, probably conference championship.

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Speaker 2: R J.

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Speaker 1: Maryland, I think he gets a lot of catches in

476
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Speaker 1: this game. Julie's ninety fourth in the country and pass

477
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Speaker 1: defense and yeah, you mentioned how Muster offenses looked and

478
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Speaker 1: the UTSA game especially, they had five nuvers. They shouldn't

479
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Speaker 1: have had that any points. They're out gained by Utsa. Obviously,

480
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: my bet on the road Runners was wrong, but looked

481
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Speaker 1: like the better team if they didn't just treat the

482
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Speaker 1: ball like a greased up pig. So as crazy as

483
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Speaker 1: it sounds like, I was going back on my notes

484
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Speaker 1: when I gave out this preseason bet, I think you

485
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Speaker 1: can win this game up with their defense, which sounds nuts.

486
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Speaker 1: Giving the SMU last what they were last year doesn't.

487
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Speaker 2: Sound nuts based on the two lane offense, like this

488
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: is not a bad stretch. This isn't them playing up

489
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Speaker 2: against Old Miss, and like you know, the athletes on

490
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: the field kind of got the best of them. This

491
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Speaker 2: is an entire sample size the whole year and definitely

492
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Speaker 2: down the stretch, both against the dregs in Tulsa and

493
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Speaker 2: ECU and some better teams in FAU and Utsa.

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Speaker 1: So I think as good as I just mentioned how

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Speaker 1: loaded their offenses are and stone they're thirty second in

496
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Speaker 1: the country and offense is success rate, they're fourth on defense,

497
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Speaker 1: they're ninth against the run, sixth against the past and

498
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Speaker 1: everything we talked about preseason with what they did in

499
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Speaker 1: the transfer portal with their nil thing could not have

500
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Speaker 1: worked better. Look with their defense. Edge rusher Elijah Roberts

501
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: eleven sacks, fifty five QB pressures he was at Miami

502
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Speaker 1: last year. They're two leading tacklers linebacker Kobe Wilson and

503
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: Amad Walker they were at Temple and Liberty last year.

504
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: There's three best defensive backs who are nasty. By the way,

505
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: West Virginia, Stanford, Fresno State last year, their entire transfer

506
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: portal class is. They're now starting defense, and it could

507
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: not have worked out better for them. They're nasty, their

508
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: defense is so good, and as you said, Jeline does

509
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Speaker 1: not run the ball. You mentioned the issues. Their best receiver,

510
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: Lawrence Keys is already out. They've already announced him out.

511
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Speaker 1: Jakawon Jackson hasn't played in I think three weeks now.

512
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Speaker 1: He's questionable. They're hoping he'll play. I don't know what

513
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: that means. He hasn't played in a month, and their

514
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Speaker 1: best receivers, so there's their two best receivers potentially out.

515
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Speaker 1: They don't run the ball well, and they're playing probably

516
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Speaker 1: the best defense they've faced all year. I have to

517
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Speaker 1: go look back at their schedule. So obviously I'm not

518
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Speaker 1: as confident as I would be with Stone, but I'm

519
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Speaker 1: not hedge in here. I'm riding with the Mustangs. I

520
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: think I think they can win this game. So I'm

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Speaker 1: comfortable keeping that plus three fifty money line in my pocket.

522
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Speaker 1: And again, if I didn't have them, if I didn't

523
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Speaker 1: have maybe i'm biased. They do have them. I think

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Speaker 1: four seems like a lot because if you're like the

525
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Speaker 1: under I think it should be a field goal game,

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Speaker 1: so I would take plus four. I'm riding the money line.

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Speaker 1: Just so I'm clear.

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Speaker 2: I think I misspoke earlier, but just basically saying it's

529
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Speaker 2: the two lane defense that gives up all the pass completions.

530
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Speaker 2: So they give up sixty six percent completions, which is

531
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Speaker 2: like one hundred and twenty fifth some of like that

532
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Speaker 2: in the country. So like they basically play that big

533
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: umbrella coverage. They back up, they want to keep everything

534
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Speaker 2: in front of them. I still think that leans towards

535
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: the under but if you're talking about an underdog play,

536
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 2: that's the kind of game that you want. You don't

537
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Speaker 2: want to get into a track meet. So I understand

538
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: where you're head that as well.

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Speaker 1: And it sets the ball for Jennings like you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna take shots anyway, just like get the ball to

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Speaker 1: Mookie Dixon and Hudson and r Jim Maryland and let

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Speaker 1: them do the rest and then play the all right.

543
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: Onto the Menwest Conference Championship game played at Legion Stadium

544
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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, Nevada. Boise a two point favorite. The

545
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 2: total send at fifty eight and a half all right,

546
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: let me get this started right here. I think there's

547
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: a lot of disrespect to the home field advantage for

548
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: UNLV because this is the biggest game for UNLV since

549
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four when they hosted number eight SMU and

550
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: the regular season finale. They were ten and one at

551
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: the time, led by Randall Cunningham. That's how long it's

552
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: been since they've been in a huge college football game.

553
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: I think the alums are going to come out. I

554
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: think the Fairweather fans are going to come out. They're

555
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: going to have an advantage in terms of having their

556
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: best atmosphere since they started playing at Allegiant Stadium Number two.

557
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Speaker 2: For me, I still entrust Tailor Green, like you know

558
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: the you know Madson getting hurt and being out for

559
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: the season. I think you just had surgery. He was

560
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: posted on social media. This guy can be a turnover

561
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: machine if you put him under pressure. I understand that

562
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: UNLV has not created a lot of havoc this year,

563
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: but they're still solid against the run and their weakness

564
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: is really through the air. But I just don't see

565
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: Green with a receiving corp that's been decimated by opt

566
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Speaker 2: outs and injuries take advantage of it, and then on

567
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: the other side, for most most of the season, it

568
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: was like we were tempering expectations because of the early

569
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: injury to Brumfeld, and you know, you'll know the offense

570
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: needs to be more balanced. But Maeava has been better

571
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: and better and better, like since he is settled in.

572
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 2: He's had four games with QBR north of eighty in

573
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Speaker 2: the last two months. And this is the Boise State defense.

574
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: We've talked about it. There one hundred and twelfth and

575
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: explosives allowed. They're really unsettled in their secondary. And Ricky

576
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: White is just one of many G five players who

577
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: got absolute job during award season. You can't even throw

578
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: these kids like semi finalists consideration. He hit thirteen hundred

579
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Speaker 2: yards receiving with a backup quarterback, seventeen point three yards

580
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Speaker 2: per catch, and he's had one hundred and ten yards

581
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Speaker 2: plus in five strike games with five tds. This guy

582
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: is going to eat. This is my underdog play of

583
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: the entire weekend. I think UNLV should be favored. I

584
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: think this is massive disrespect Boise State getting back gen

585
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 2: Z was big, But like I said, the only thing

586
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: that you knowlv's defense does well is they, you know,

587
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: corral to run at least by Mountain West standards. So

588
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: I see them getting the bump at home. I see

589
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: Maeva playing another great game. I'm into it.

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Speaker 1: Agreed. I took you and V money line. I think

591
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Speaker 1: they win the game. I would take you and V

592
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Speaker 1: if they're minus two and a half. I think Boise

593
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: State has been an absolute roller coaster all season. They

594
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Speaker 1: literally fired your coach mid season and still like still

595
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Speaker 1: made the conference tile game. I tried to ask Brett

596
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: mc murphy if that's ever happened before. He said not

597
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Speaker 1: that he's aware of. So unless someone tweeted us if

598
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Speaker 1: I were just forgetting someone, I don't know their team's

599
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: ever fired their coach mid season and still made the

600
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: conference title game. But it's crazy that by all accounts,

601
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: they've had a wildly disappointing season and they might still

602
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: win the conference. But you said it, their whole offense

603
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: basically has become Austin Genti, and it's not gonna get

604
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: any easy because that's the joy that not only did

605
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: they fire their coach, but their passing game is gutted

606
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: with you know, Mattson, Like you said, Chuck Tayling, Green's job.

607
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: Now he's out for the seasons. They have to go

608
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: back agree and their receiver room is gutted because Stefan

609
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: Cobbs and Latrell Cables are both out for the season.

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Speaker 1: Another thing I don't think I've ever seen from a

611
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Speaker 1: conference championship team. They're leading receiver Eric McCalister, who's their

612
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: leading receiver by a lot er the transfer portal in

613
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: the middle season. He's just like, I don't want to

614
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: play for you anymore. He's gone. I don't know how

615
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: often that happens. So they're now one dimensional. All they

616
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: can do is run. And you mentioned the UNOV defense

617
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: is better against the run. But this go go offense

618
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: has been go go going for a while now. They

619
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: run the ball so well MAAVA has been terrific. They're

620
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: twenty second in the country and explosive to this, which

621
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: plays right into Boise State's weakness. I think they run

622
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: the ball and they pick up big plays. I think

623
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Speaker 1: they win this game. I kind of do like the over,

624
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: just because that kind of hedges if gent just goes bananas.

625
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: But I think there's a chance you n LV wins

626
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: and this goes over, And because I think you know

627
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna score regardless, so it's kind of a semi headge.

628
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: If you know, if gent has three touchdowns, at least

629
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Speaker 1: I hit the old but I took you and v

630
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: money line, I do win the game.

631
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Speaker 2: I'm picturing Ricky White breaking away for the game winning touchdown,

632
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: running into the end zone, the fans with the VIP

633
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: placards around their neck. It's gonna be Guy Fieri, Jimmy Kimmel,

634
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: and Flow Ryder all UNLV grands, so I'm hoping they

635
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: get the swoop dogg treatment.

636
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: And they're funny about Ricky White. If I'm unless I'm

637
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: completely thinking of somebody else, but I'm like ninety six

638
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: percent shirts Ricky White. But whenever you talk off the

639
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: top of your head, like am I think of someone else?

640
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: Ricky White transferred to UNLV from Michigan from Michigan State,

641
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: But he transferred because him and Harrison Bailey went to

642
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: high school together and are like best friends. So when

643
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Harrison Bailey transferred to u and l V, they were like, Oh,

644
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna play together, and like they're now like three

645
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: quarterbacks away from Harrison. I think he's really played like

646
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: two games. I don't even I don't even know where

647
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: he is right now. I don't even know if he's

648
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: on the roster. But it's kind of funny that he

649
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: basically like, I'm gonna go play with my buddy, and

650
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: now he's gonna win a Mountain West title game. Harrison

651
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: Bailey's selling car insurance somewhere, and Ricky White's like, you said,

652
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: suit stud, here's a millie. Didn't deserve that.

653
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Harrison Bailey just catching strays right here. All right,

654
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: on to the last G five preview, the fun Belt

655
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: appalatchin State at Troy Troy lay in six and a half,

656
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: the total sid at fifty two and a half. Hey,

657
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: the Mountain Yeers are a fun story. I gotta be

658
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: honest with you, Like I thought this was going to

659
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: be a bit of a lost season for them. They

660
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: started three and four, one and two in conference. I

661
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 2: was just right there.

662
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: So the quarterback thirt quarterback gets start.

663
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: As soon as they lost the Old Dominion I still

664
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: had it in my head the old Dominion team from

665
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: last year. So I was like Old Dominions trash. This

666
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: app State team is washed. Then they go ahead. They

667
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: win five straight, including an overtime thriller against James Madison

668
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: ruining their perfect season, like talking about walking into a

669
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: hornet's nest and coming out with a win. And Joey

670
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: Aguilar ends the season over thirty five hundred total yards

671
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: over or thirty five total touchdowns like incredible during that

672
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: five to zero win streak to end the season, seventeen

673
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: tds to four picks for him, He's a willing runner.

674
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: He gets Nate Noel healthy again, Kanye Roberts their solid

675
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: one two punch at running back. Overall, this offense finished

676
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: the regular season thirty eighth and success right twenty third

677
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: and explosiveness did not see that coming hand up, you know,

678
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,959
Speaker 2: admitting when some of these teams, like I had a narrative,

679
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: you know, basically written for them that just wasn't true.

680
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: And the defense was strong against the pass down the stretch.

681
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: They finished thirty sixth in havoc. The question here for

682
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: me is not can ap State win it, because I

683
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: don't think they can on Troy's field. It's more so

684
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: can they move the ball enough for this total to

685
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 2: come into play for an over And I guess my

686
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: question is how good is this Troy defense? Because I

687
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: think the offense has slowly and under the radar improved,

688
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: you know, readily over time under Gunner Watson. There's still

689
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: a team that's not super efficient, but they can be explosive.

690
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: But the defense, I'm just not sure how good they are.

691
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: If I'm doing the same thing that I did with

692
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: app State, but kind of in reverse, where I'm giving

693
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: them all this credit for what they were in twenty

694
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: twenty two because in the last month they played South Alabama,

695
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: who's been dysfunctional, they played Monroe, they played Louisiana without Chris,

696
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: and they played Southern miss That's a pretty good stretch

697
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: with it playing an offense with the pulse, and now

698
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: comes an app State, you know, offense that potentially could

699
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: pop because they have great quarterback play and they could

700
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: run the football. So if I'm gonna play this one,

701
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go over fifty two and a half because,

702
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: as I said, I like the Troy offense on their

703
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 2: home field to get into the thirties. And then it's

704
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: a question of can I get twenty one points fro

705
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: the man nears? I think I can. So that's my

706
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: play here for the fun belt, wrapping up what should

707
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: have been James Madison against Troy, but you know we'll

708
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: have to wait one more year.

709
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't need deal over at all, and I just

710
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: want to start. We skipped G five Hero of the

711
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: Week this week because we are just wanting to talk

712
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: about these games. I'm gonna do one quick right here.

713
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: My G five here of the week is the Fun Belt,

714
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: because twelve of the fourteen teams in the Sun Belt

715
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: made a ble. Well that is unbelieable. The depth some

716
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: of them. You know, you mentioned Old Dominion Arkansas State, Butch,

717
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: don't kill my vie. You were burying Butch out back.

718
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: You know a week two or three guys going bowling.

719
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: All right, we got with balling. So shout out to

720
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: the fun that includes, by the way, James Madison, shout

721
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: out to the Fun Belt twelve of their fourteen teams bowling.

722
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said all those nice things about app State,

723
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: and I agree with you. Aguilar has been great. I

724
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: don't hate the over at all. I think Troy crushes them.

725
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: I think Troy wins is by double digits. I think

726
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: you look at this Troy team, we kind of I

727
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: think because of James Madison and because there's so many

728
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: deep teams we kind of.

729
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: And also the West stunk, so it's like they were

730
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: in no risk of losing the West. So there weren't

731
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: like critical games down the stretch for Troy together.

732
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: Two because South Alabama you know, fell off because they're

733
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: defending champ It's not some like you know, it's almost

734
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: the same thing Toledo has where it's not something like, oh,

735
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: look at this team getting hot. Troy lost two early

736
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: games to Kansas State and James Madison by two points,

737
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: and they have rattled off nine straight wins, pretty much

738
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 1: crushing everyone. They have scored twenty eight points in every

739
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: conference game this season. You need them thirty, they've done

740
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: it every game for much and while the defense took

741
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: a few games to adjust to losing to Carlton Marshall,

742
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: who was kind of their you know, all star last year,

743
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: over the last eight games they're allowing a grand total

744
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: of eleven points per game. And you mentioned it, it

745
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: wasn't the hardest schedule, but their top twenty five against

746
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: to run, their top twenty five against the pass, they're

747
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: elite at preventing finishing drives. They're so well coached. So yeah,

748
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: app State's been throwing the ball really well with Aguilar.

749
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: But I just think that these defense also has not

750
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: been good all year. They're terrible against the run. They're

751
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: allowing four point eight yards per carry. That's the worst,

752
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: the second worst in the Sunbelt. Come on eve at all,

753
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: one hundred and twelve yards per game. He has over

754
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: five point three yards per carry. I expect a monster

755
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: game from it all. And how I don't think we've

756
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: mentioned him all year this which is a huge mistake

757
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: on our part. Gunner Watson has taken such a massive

758
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: step forward it's nuts. This team won a sum Belt

759
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: last year with him having fourteen touchdowns in twelve pain

760
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: and they won the conference. This season, he has twenty

761
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: six touchdowns and five picks. He has not had a

762
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: turn He has had one turnover since September. Donaugh Watson

763
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: is playing phenomenal football. He deserves a ton of credit.

764
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: They have like three really good receivers. This offense is

765
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: eighth in the nation. And explosiveness if you don't really

766
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: think of like that's not what they were last year

767
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: at all. Abstate gives up a ton of players. I

768
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: like you, Rover, I en Troy can score forty so

769
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: I think I give a a ton of credit for

770
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: ripping off five straight wins. I and Troy is a

771
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: lot better than them. I'm gonna bet Troy MiNet six

772
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: and a half. You mentioned it. There's some weird other

773
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: games in the P five level. I thn Troy is

774
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: a great money lined anchor if you want to anchor them.

775
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: You know, if you want to take Tulane, I don't

776
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: love it, but Tulane Troy money line, throw Oregon in there.

777
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 2: You know.

778
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: There's if you like Georgia but don't want to lay

779
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: the points. There's a lot of kind of money line

780
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: favorites this that you can play, depending on who else

781
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: you like. I would have Troy in all of mine.

782
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: I think they win this game. I think they win

783
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: by double. I don't know.

784
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: You're programming notes for those listening. We're going to go

785
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: through all ten of the conference championship games, and by we,

786
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean are brothers here at BBOC that'll be Stuck

787
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: and Colin going through every single matchup. The episode's going

788
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: to drop probably in about thirty six hours something like that.

789
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: Conferencesa preview, and then.

790
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: The BBOC Live show of course on Saturday, giving you

791
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: the rundown on everything you need to know leading up

792
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 2: to I believe that's eight of the conference championship games

793
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: on Saturday as well, so it'll be Brett Colin McMurphy.

794
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: I'll come in with G five play as well, and

795
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 2: then Tim Kalanowski and I will put together one more

796
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 2: college football player prop episode that is called the BBOC Tailgate,

797
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: where we're going to get into our five favorite plays.

798
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: Could only be three or four this week with only

799
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: a ten game slate to pick from, but it is

800
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: nice that all of the G five games are going

801
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: to have robust lines in terms of player totals and

802
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: props and everything like that. All right, Usually we do

803
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: cutting room floor, but I don't think we left any

804
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: meat on the bone here in this episode. So I

805
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: know that you wanted to get in a little bit

806
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: to the coaching carousel before we get out of here

807
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: for this episode.

808
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to run through the coaches quick that

809
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: have been fired, just to refresh everyone's brain. We got

810
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: Boise State we mentioned fired, and Diavolos Middle Tennessee fired,

811
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: Rick stock Still, New Mexico fired, Dannigan Zales San Diego State,

812
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: Brady hook were tired, Uel Monroe fired Terry Bowden Utepdan

813
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: Dimble told you that one was coming week won and

814
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: a little honorary G five rip Dana Holgerson was fired

815
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: from Houston G five in our hearts. So I'm not

816
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: a guy who likes being like, oh, you know my

817
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: biggest pet peeve I was vending to you about this

818
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: over lunch today, is you know UTEP job is like, oh,

819
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: he you know, his favorite TV shows Friday Night Light,

820
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: so he knows the recruiting area. Or oh he's been

821
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: to the San Diego he loves Disneyland, so well, he'll

822
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: get the San Diego State job. Especially the G five

823
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: just hired good coaches, like you don't need to know

824
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: anything about Texas. You can be from New England and

825
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: be a great coach and going to Texas and win.

826
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: So I don't really have a like, oh he hit

827
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: him here here with one condition we can all agree.

828
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't even have to talk about it. Kellen Moore

829
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: is getting the Boise State job, and I will ride

830
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: if anyone else gets it because Chargers are going to

831
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: clean house. Kellen Moore has to go back to Boise State,

832
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: so we'll skip that one. I'm gonna throw some names

833
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: at you. I wrote a list of names I would

834
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: like to see in contention. It's a combination of current

835
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: ocs at the power five level, a couple o ss

836
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: at the G five level, and then also, you know

837
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: we've seen recently the uh what's his face? Tom Herman's,

838
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: the who's Georgia State's coach? Helton Helen like the fired

839
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: P five coaches drop down rebuild. So I'm just gonna

840
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: throw a bunch of names at you. If you want

841
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: to put him in a spot, go ahead. Just let

842
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: me know your thoughts on some of these guys, if

843
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: you want to, I like that one. This is my favorite.

844
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: Like I said, Kellen Moore's gone this. We'll recording this

845
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Tuesday night. By the way, some of this might be outdated.

846
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: It because I believe Sean Lewis is already in talks

847
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: to take the San Diego State job. I had Sean

848
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: Lewis written down as an option per Brett McMurphy. Sean

849
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: Lewis is in talks to take the San Diego SA jobs,

850
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: so you can cross that one off the list. Here

851
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: are the other names I had Texas defensive coordinator Jeff

852
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: Cho Washington O c Ryan Grubb, Oregon OC will Stein

853
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: both Stein especially still super young. Not sure if he's ready,

854
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: but he's probably named that. I'll get some calls Kansas

855
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: OC Andy Coulton, Nicky love him. Not sure he leaves

856
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: Lighthold our boy, Zach Kittley Texas tech o c he's

857
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: in Texas, gott.

858
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna get run out of Lubbock. I

859
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: don't think that's gonna be him leaving of his own.

860
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: I'll go to UTEP. Brian Haynes, James Madison defensive coordinator.

861
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: I know you were talking about. Does what's his fitness

862
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: signetti leave? Maybe Brian Hayes just gets that job. Our boy,

863
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: Brenda Marion un l v O C go go, especially

864
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: if he wins the Mountain West title. Does he get

865
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: a head coaching gigs somewhere. I'd love to see Brian

866
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: Vincent get the New Mexico job. I know people you

867
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: ab wanted him, so I actually hope he gets that job.

868
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: That's the one. I'll connect some fired names that are

869
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: out there to Dane Holgerson, just come right back to

870
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: G five. Does Dana turn around? Scott Frost, he won

871
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: some games in the AAC he's out there. Matt Wells

872
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: I thought got fired prematurely from Texas Tech. He won

873
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: a lot of games. That Utah State Matt Wells is

874
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: out there. Jeff Collins. I know everyone keeps connecting Brian

875
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: Harson to Boise State. Boise State fans were thrilled when

876
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: he left. There's no chance they want him back. Rooise

877
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: State fans did not like Brian Harrison. A couple other

878
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: interest names. Gary Patterson recycled G five coach Seth Latrell.

879
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: He made a bowl like seven straight years at North

880
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: Texas and then got fired. I'd love to see him

881
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: get another gig. Bronco Mendenhall is still out there if

882
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: he wants to come back. Those are some names I got.

883
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: Anybody specifically jump out at you as would be your

884
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: first choice, or a specific job you want to link

885
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: somebody to.

886
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting is I think one domino that is

887
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: gonna fall. I'm going to try to call my shot here.

888
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: I think Trailer is going to move from UTSA to Houston,

889
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: which then opens up the UTSA job, which I think

890
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 2: he's left in incredibly good hands.

891
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: The buzz they just want UTSA.

892
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 2: The buzz is that they're trying to do everything they

893
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: can in terms of resources and contract to keep them there.

894
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: I think they've done a good job already considering he's one,

895
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: you know, he had one back to back conference championships,

896
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: and help them move up to the AC and make

897
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: competitive this year. But I think Houston would be wise.

898
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: This isn't like you led this off with, oh, this

899
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: guy likes Disneyland or this guy likes Friday night lights.

900
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: This isn't a clear hearts can't lose, or you know,

901
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 2: clear it whatever it is. This isn't a Dylan Texas

902
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: situation when it comes to trailer. This is him actually

903
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: having relationships with all the high school coaches better than

904
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: someone from the outside coming in and Houston, that's the

905
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: big thing. You don't even have to leave your state

906
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: to be able to put together an FBS roster. But

907
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: I think he's he's a good fit there. He brought

908
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: up Brendan Marion. I think that he's ready. I don't

909
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: think he's ready for a power job. I do think

910
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: it's going to take a stepping stone head coaching job,

911
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 2: and there's lots of different opportunities that potentially could open

912
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: themselves up. But there's you know, when it comes to

913
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 2: the AD's job, it's not only getting somebody who can win,

914
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: but also somebody puts a brand of football on the

915
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: field that buys them a little bit extra time. I

916
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 2: think is why you see always kind of a skewing

917
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: towards the offensive minds being hired over the defensive minds.

918
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: He's somebody who's done a really good job and as

919
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: we mentioned, you know during the Mountain West preview, with

920
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback getting them to the title game, like

921
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: this is a banner year for you and LV. I

922
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 2: think at the very least, he's going to get interviews

923
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: with multiple jobs. It could be as simple as him

924
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: saying if I can wait it out, if I don't

925
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: have my dream job situation like does he really want

926
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: to take UTEP? You know that's a coaching grade for

927
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: most part.

928
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: I do believe I saw something that he did interview

929
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: at San Diego State.

930
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: Anything that can kind of be positive momentum get him started.

931
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: And you know what's interesting is that from a Power

932
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: five job, like I'm surprised that Sean Lewis wasn't holding

933
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: out or didn't get contacted or maybe did by Syracuse

934
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: because they went with Dino Babers. And you can say

935
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 2: what you want about the Babs you know, you know campaign,

936
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: but he had, you know, a double digit win season

937
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: at Syracuse. At times, the offense was interesting when he

938
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: had the right quarterback. So I don't think they're afraid

939
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: to hire somebody with mac head coaching experience. So I'm

940
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: at surprised that they didn't go for that.

941
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: I was home Ben State when I are Sean Lewis.

942
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the thing is, like, obviously the money

943
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: is starting to blow up now for these schools that are,

944
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: you know, now in the three to four million dollar range,

945
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: which even three or four years ago it was a

946
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 2: million dollar head coaching job.

947
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: So tell you what, Brent, Brenda Marion, there may not

948
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: be a better interview than your offense Torch and Boise

949
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: State on Saturday.

950
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: That's true.

951
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: Boyis State turnout and hire him after he beats him.

952
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also think that there's the potential for a

953
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: crazy the Domino effect if Signetti gets plucks by say

954
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 2: Duke or somebody like that, and if chadwell, if anyone

955
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: comes in and blows him away. I'm gonna put this

956
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 2: out there, and it sounds crazy, But why would Indiana

957
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: fire Alan unless they were serious about making a big

958
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: financial commitment and going after because they're gonna have all

959
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: this you know, big ten revenue TV money. Like it

960
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: seems to me that they fired him to take a

961
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: swing at a bigger coach, not to have some kind

962
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: of stepping stone coach or a lateral move like why

963
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: not throw six million dollars a year at Chadwell or

964
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: something like that. Crazy. If that happens, then the liberty

965
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: job's open. Then just all hell's gonna break loose. So

966
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: it's kind of hard to get too far ahead on

967
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: the chess board with so many of these things being

968
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: linked together.

969
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: I think I think Indiana fans want Ryan Grobb because

970
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: he was there when they were good. I think if

971
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: if Signetti does leave, James Madison, I think promoting Brian

972
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: Haynes is an absolute no brainer. So I think that

973
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: would solve that aspect. If Signetti doesn't leave, is it

974
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: kind of him and Haynes like, Hey, let's let's run

975
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: this back when the sun belt, which we have not

976
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: been able to do for two years. I'll probably get

977
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: poached next year. You used to ground one more year

978
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: you'll be here if I leave. You know, I hope

979
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: that happens because I'd love to see jmu win this

980
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: because it will be eligible next year. Yeah. To me,

981
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: the interesting ones are kind of like you said, it's

982
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: the just does Marion get get a step off that,

983
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, a middle Tennessee you know, the U tap

984
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: the lesser jobs in the G five? And also you

985
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: know we saw obviously, you know, Sean Lewis leave Kent

986
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: State to go to Colorado to be the O C?

987
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: Does Will Stein? Would he rather be the Oregon O C?

988
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: Or would he rather be a head coach in the

989
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: G five? You know him, Ryan Grubb, Colt Nicki, like

990
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: I said, I don't, I don't know that I see

991
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: Coltonnicki leaving Leopold. But those are probably some of the

992
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: hottest OC names. So I'm curious if if any of

993
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: them will be interested in being the head guy, because

994
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: those are probably three of the top O c's that

995
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: you know, you could really I know, Tommy Reese is

996
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: like he doesn't do anything for me. I've heard his

997
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: tossed around a little bit like people, oh he's this

998
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: is again the oh Tommy Reese for Indiana Because he

999
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: played at Notre Dame, and it's like, who cares? Why

1000
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: does that make him a good coach?

1001
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: Do you think? I do think you bring up some

1002
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: interesting chatter about Frost getting back into it where it's

1003
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: like it didn't work obviously at Nebraska and they lost

1004
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: every close game, but it did work at UCF And

1005
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I don't think that he's necessarily broken

1006
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: as a human being. So if there was ever like

1007
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: a retread kind of higher that would be it. It's just,

1008
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: you know, about getting the right fit, and some of

1009
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: these schools, you know, essentially are looking and understanding that

1010
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: they are stepping stone for a two or three year

1011
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: kind of deal, where Herman at FAU or I actually

1012
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: think Helton, I think this could be kind of a

1013
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: retirement job for him if he stays at Georgia Southern

1014
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: and wins sixty eight games a year for the next

1015
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: eight years and then just calls it a career. I

1016
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: think everybody's happy in that situation, whereas Herman's trying to

1017
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 2: jump start his career get back into the bigs, and

1018
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: I think this is how it's going to have to

1019
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: have to happen for Frost and the Trell is very

1020
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: interesting to me. I actually think he might be the

1021
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: right fit for UTEP given his experience in Texas and

1022
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: being a consistent winner, because that's what UTEP wants. They

1023
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 2: just want to be relevant in Conference USA. They want

1024
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: to have a chance to go bowling every year, you know,

1025
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 2: and everywhere. Put a little juice into that program. Having

1026
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: basically been winning with their defense for so many years

1027
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: and maybe refreshing to kind of try to go to

1028
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: a more of an offensive guy. So I don't know,

1029
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: I think those are interesting storylines to put out there,

1030
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: but like I said, it's a little bit of a

1031
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: fool's errand to get into who's going where because so

1032
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: much is going to change within you know, even one higher.

1033
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm if I'm UTP. I call Matt Wills and

1034
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: Seth Latrell.

1035
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: All right for Mike Iell on Mike Calabery's This has

1036
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: been the group of five deep Dive under the BBOC banner.

1037
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: Go Diego Go, everybody settle in for the Conference USA

1038
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: championship game on Friday. We'll be settling in over a

1039
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: pot of kso just enjoying our spoils for an entire

1040
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: season into betting on New Mexico State. Thank you so

1041
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: much for listening, thank you for the reviews, for the comments,

1042
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: for all the engagement on social media. It's really building

1043
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Speaker 2: up our community and you know, getting us more views

1044
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Speaker 2: and more exposure. And you are the reasons why we

1045
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: do the show.

1046
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: If New Mexico State wins the conference Heier State Championship

1047
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: on Friday Night, me and Calgary is better be tagged

1048
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1049
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1051
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Speaker 1: been on this train all year with you guys. You've

1052
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Speaker 1: all been riding with us. We'll riding together. This is

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Speaker 1: our suit, this is our super Bowl Friday night, let's go.

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